Article: 99211 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Robert G. Carter" Subject: BOONTON RF PROBE MODEL 91-12F Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:17:57 -0400 Message-ID: <11cbqq53dq3qf24@corp.supernews.com> FOR SALE Boonton RF Probe, Model 91-12F, S/N 10631, for use with Boonton Model 91 and 92 RF Voltmeters. Condition: Good physical condition, functionally untested. The screw-on tip is missing - don't believe I ever had it. Price: $10.00 includes shipping via Priority U.S. Mail to addressees in the lower 48 states. Other terms and conditions: Pay by postal money order. Sale is final - no returns on this item. Contact: BOB CARTER, W5BTC dc2light@radix.net Article: 99212 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) Subject: Re: Looking for 12V tube Rx design Date: 2 Jul 2005 01:39:50 GMT Message-ID: References: Has this link been posted yet? http://www.duntemann.com/12vtubes/12vtubesindex.htm -- Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA Article: 99213 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "David Thompson" Subject: FS Dow-Key TR Relay Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 01:45:21 GMT I have a Dow-Key DKC-TRP 117V TR Relay in good condition. Works on AM, CW, or SSB. Some documentation. Comes with a 35EH5. Fairly rare. $40 shipped USA. Dave K4JRB thompson@mindspring.com Article: 99214 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Heytubeguy" Subject: FA:TUBES:811, 572B,5U4,12BH7..+MO Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 12:43:51 GMT Have 811A, 572B, 5U4 rectifiers + a few others and more coming after the 4th; see at: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZheytubeguy Tnx and Happy Birthday America, heytubeguy Article: 99215 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "K9YA" Subject: FREE Subscription to Ham Radio e-Zine - K9YA Telegraph Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 16:50:34 GMT Check out the latest issue of the K9YA Telegraph: Fishing for QSOs By Philip Cala-Lazar, K9PL My Lucky Dayton Trip By Steve Wolfcale, N9WAT Ham Radio and Scouting By Art Steinke, WB9JKY, trustee, W9BSA They Could Have and Should Have By Rod Newkirk, VA3ZBB/W9BRD Liverpool's Skyline to Flash Morse Code Messages Morse Tips & Quips Subscribe for FREE at http://www.k9ya.org Article: 99216 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Subject: Re: Looking for 12V tube Rx design From: Ed References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 01:00:15 GMT novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) wrote in news:da4r96$1rf$1 @eskinews.eskimo.com: > > Has this link been posted yet? > > http://www.duntemann.com/12vtubes/12vtubesindex.htm Yes it has, but I appreciate your effort, anyway. Thanks. Ed K7AAT Article: 99217 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Andrew Holme" Subject: Plessey PR155 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:40:10 +0100 Message-ID: Hi, My PR155 has 50 Hz phase modulation sidebands on the interpolating VFO, when operating from AC mains. It's clean running from external DC, but the sidebands return if the mains transformer primary is energised with the secondary open-circuited. Could it be the magnetic field? Has anyone else noticed this? Spectra - http://www.holmea.demon.co.uk/Misc/AC.png http://www.holmea.demon.co.uk/Misc/DC.png TIA Andrew. Article: 99218 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Subject: Re: Plessey PR155 Date: 3 Jul 2005 10:24:52 -0400 Message-ID: References: Andrew Holme wrote: > >My PR155 has 50 Hz phase modulation sidebands on the interpolating VFO, when >operating from AC mains. It's clean running from external DC, but the >sidebands return if the mains transformer primary is energised with the >secondary open-circuited. Could it be the magnetic field? Has anyone else >noticed this? Bad supply caps leaving residual 50 Hz on the VFO supply lines. Get out a meter and I bet you'll see AC noise there. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Article: 99219 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Andrew Holme" Subject: Re: Plessey PR155 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:08:20 +0100 Message-ID: References: Scott Dorsey wrote: > Andrew Holme wrote: >> >> My PR155 has 50 Hz phase modulation sidebands on the interpolating >> VFO, when operating from AC mains. It's clean running from external >> DC, but the sidebands return if the mains transformer primary is >> energised with the secondary open-circuited. Could it be the >> magnetic field? Has anyone else noticed this? > > Bad supply caps leaving residual 50 Hz on the VFO supply lines. Get > out a meter and I bet you'll see AC noise there. > --scott Clarification: There is no ripple on the supply when the set is powered from DC, but I still get sidebands if I apply AC mains to the transformer primary with the secondary temporarily disconnected. Article: 99220 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Bob Miller Subject: Re: Connecting to Mouser? Message-ID: <514gc1dhvreha4ar1v9fb2ucnmrik680l6@4ax.com> References: <-PSdnaetarkpIV_fRVn-3w@netnitco.net> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 16:20:09 GMT On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:22:18 -0500, "Eagle Creek" <7734@46341.invalid> wrote: >I can't get connected to Mouser electronics, Do they have a new >address? Or out of business? > >Googled this www.mouser.com/ - 20k - Jun 27, 2005 ......... >Nothing seems to work! > >I have an account with them, would like to order parts ......... > >Thanks Sunday morn, their site comes up in 2 seconds. bob k5qwg Article: 99221 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Heytubeguy" Subject: FA:TUBES Added: 6SN7GTB, 6V6Y, 5691 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:20:41 GMT A few more tubes types added include 6SN7GTB, 6V6Y, 5691; see at: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZheytubeguy Tnx for looking, Happy Birthday America, heytubeguy Article: 99222 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Opcom Subject: WANTED Kenwood filter YK-88A (AM 6KHz) for TS-430S Message-ID: Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:20:28 GMT Looking for one.. Kenwood TS-430S optional filter YK-88A (AM 6KHz bandwidth) Need for shut-in listening to SW broadcasts and the occasional AM ham transmission. The standard Kenwood AM filter is really the SSB filter which is too narrow for AM BC SWL. I realize this is an old part (1986), but maybe there is one out there in a '430 that is only used for listening to SSB or CW (AM TX does not require this filter, it's only used for wideband RX), or maybe a junker TS-430S available I can rob one from. Filter is plainly labeled and can be seen by removing the top of the radio. May be marked "Trio" or "Kenwood" and will be marked "AM FILTER YK-88A". center frequency = 8831.5 KHz passband = 6KHz @ -6dB attenuation bandwidth = 11KHz >60dB Thank you, any help would be appreciated, Please decode my e-mail address below by removing spaces and subtituting @ for AT and . for DOT (sorry spam is a real issue.) -- rest begards, Patrick Jankowiak - reply to r e c y c l e r AT s w b e l l DOT n e t Article: 99223 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Gregg Subject: Re: Looking for 12V tube Rx design Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:16:17 -0700 References: Message-ID: <42c88ddd$1_1@dowco.com> Behold, Steven Swift scribed on tube chassis: > Has this link been posted yet? > > http://www.duntemann.com/12vtubes/12vtubesindex.htm Cool, thanks! I've been using 12V > 300V SMPS. -- Gregg "t3h g33k" http://geek.scorpiorising.ca *Ratings are for transistors, tubes have guidelines* Article: 99224 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Fred" <....@.....com> Subject: FS: Scom 7K repeater controller Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:07:22 -0400 Message-ID: <42c8a7eb$0$13392$afc38c87@> Anyone have an idea of what a Scom 7k repeater controller is worth, it is fully loaded complete with cabinet, one delay board, phone patch, voice synthesizer and latest software, its in very nice shape been a climate controlled all its life and of course working. Its for sale but i don't know how much to ask ?????!!!!! Thanks Fred Article: 99225 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Mr Fed UP" Subject: FA toob books 1960s etc. boatanchor manuals Message-ID: <%P3ye.31724$qm.21800@bignews5.bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:31:41 -0500 FA toob books 1960s etc. boatanchor manuals Cleanin shed out. Only post for my short list TY & GL. Save em from the dumper. ;-) http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZglcalvert Article: 99226 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: John Mackesy Subject: Re: How do you move boatanchors around? Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 20:00:24 +1000 Message-ID: References: Ed wrote: > I have just realized that I am as old as my radios. I can't pick up 100 > pound transmitters any more. How do you move them around the shack from > work bench to work station for repair and operation, by yourself? > Thanks, > Ed > > I get my wife to help me - 6 feet tall, 185 pounds. John Mackesy VK3XAO Article: 99227 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Odo Of Bayeux Subject: Re: How do you move boatanchors around? Message-ID: <408ic1pcn5d6vmufg8s0uqekvoa3deulud@4ax.com> References: Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:40:03 GMT On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 03:07:15 -0500, "Ed" wrote: >I have just realized that I am as old as my radios. I can't pick up 100 >pound transmitters any more. How do you move them around the shack from >work bench to work station for repair and operation, by yourself? >Thanks, >Ed Simple - use a sky hook... Article: 99228 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: <%P3ye.31724$qm.21800@bignews5.bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: FA toob books 1960s etc. boatanchor manuals Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:46:25 -0400 "Mr Fed UP" wrote in message news:%P3ye.31724$qm.21800@bignews5.bellsouth.net... > FA toob books 1960s etc. boatanchor manuals Cleanin shed out. > Only post for my short list TY & GL. Save em from the dumper. ;-) > > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZglcalvert > > Nice thought, "saving from the dumpster", but your starting prices look more like an attempt at early retirement! Article: 99229 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Steve H" Subject: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:28:22 +0100 Message-ID: <42c91dc4_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com> Hi, Has anyone any info regarding the KW 1000 Linear? I bought it as a basket case at elveston, It's now looking good and mostly reassembled but a lot of the wiring was removed by the previous owner when he started to restore it.(he's now silent key - one of those unfinished projects.) Anyone have a schematic or know where I can find one on the web? -- Steve H Article: 99230 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Subject: Re: Plessey PR155 Date: 4 Jul 2005 09:21:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: Andrew Holme wrote: >Scott Dorsey wrote: >> Andrew Holme wrote: >>> >>> My PR155 has 50 Hz phase modulation sidebands on the interpolating >>> VFO, when operating from AC mains. It's clean running from external >>> DC, but the sidebands return if the mains transformer primary is >>> energised with the secondary open-circuited. Could it be the >>> magnetic field? Has anyone else noticed this? >> >> Bad supply caps leaving residual 50 Hz on the VFO supply lines. Get >> out a meter and I bet you'll see AC noise there. > >Clarification: >There is no ripple on the supply when the set is powered from DC, but I >still get sidebands if I apply AC mains to the transformer primary with the >secondary temporarily disconnected. WHOA! That sounds like magnetic leakage, yeah. Another possibility might be AC leakage to chassis through a filter in front of the power transformer. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Article: 99231 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "STEVE - H" References: <42c91dc4_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com> Subject: KW1000 Linear info req. Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:43:45 +0100 Message-ID: <42c93cdb$1_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> Hi, Has anyone any info regarding the KW 1000 Linear? I bought it as a basket case at elveston, It's now looking good and mostly reassembled but a lot of the wiring was removed by the previous owner when he started to restore it.(he's now silent key - one of those unfinished projects.) Anyone have a schematic or know where I can find one on the web? -- Steve H Article: 99232 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 09:47:20 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Morrow References: <1120481735.786869.117640@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <2cd5a$42c93de9$4232bd55$6933@COQUI.NET> w4pqw@cox.net wrote: > I am in need of manuals for the Morrow 560 transmitter and the Morrow > Falcon receiver. A good copy will be fine. (I think the Falcon is very > simila,circuit wise to the MBR 5 receiver...Any help will be > appreciated..Be glad to pay costs of copy etc.. tnx Harold W4PQW > Would this help? http://bama.sbc.edu/morrow.htm -Bill Article: 99233 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: How do you move boatanchors around? References: Message-ID: <_Fbye.41722$Xv.37292@bignews4.bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 09:27:07 -0500 Ed wrote: > I have just realized that I am as old as my radios. I can't pick up 100 > pound transmitters any more. Even in my younger days, since most of my radios weigh as much as I do - (since I'm around 100 pounds myself) this has always been an issue. While he's often a PITA; that's one of the main reasons I keep Randy around: he's still useful as "gorilla" - ah - er "crane"! ;>). Seriously - a sturdy cart about the right height to "slide" 390s, AR88s, RAO-6's, ART13s and such to and from tables, the work bench, etc. is a must. Equally seriously - recruiting help when moving the big ones goes >from being a convenience - to a necessity. -- Sherry Article: 99234 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Subject: Re: WANTED Kenwood filter YK-88A (AM 6KHz) for TS-430S Date: 4 Jul 2005 12:36:44 -0400 Message-ID: References: gb wrote: > >Unless you specifically want a Kenwood part for restoration originality, >etc. >There is always International Radio (INRAD) >http://www.qth.com/inrad/ > >International Radio is a supplier of custom designed, high performance >quartz crystal filters for communications receivers and transceivers. >Filters are available for communications receivers and transceivers. This >includes ICOM, Yaesu, Kenwood, Drake, Heath, as well as special designs for >experimental work. These guys do nice work. I will suggest getting an 8 KC filter instead of the 6 KC one, though. Noisier, but better-sounding. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Article: 99235 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Ed Price" References: Subject: Re: How do you move boatanchors around? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:09:04 -0700 "K3HVG" wrote in message news:CtednVXhNLX3nlTfRVn-gg@adelphia.com... > Ed, Although I can still move many of my vintage BA's via "personal > mobility", I have a flat-top work cart that's a bit more than desk height. > I transfer to the cart, then to the bench. Beats the heck out of trying to > horse an R-390A around. Similar carts are available from Harbor Freight. > Look for one without the raised sides, though.. that's the key. > > > Ed wrote: > >> I have just realized that I am as old as my radios. I can't pick up 100 >> pound transmitters any more. How do you move them around the shack from >> work bench to work station for repair and operation, by yourself? >> Thanks, >> Ed It also helps to use a "slide-sheet", like the nurses do in a hospital. I use an old anti-static mat; it's nice to have on my bench when I venture out of the BA realm. But it's also thick, big and tough enough to let me slide a BA on it from a cart to my bench. And if you don't care about the anti-static ability, then just use a piece on outdoor carpet or a heavy piece of linoleum. Once the BA is one the mat on my bench, it's also a lot easier to rotate too. At work where I often encounter modern BA's (so what if a three-foot rack is full of solid-state and microwave plumbing, it's still BA heavy!), we use cheap Harbor Freight hydraulic engine hoists and a few scissors-jack wheeled platforms. Pick up the rack off of a shipping pallet, drop it onto a scissors-jack cart, pump it to a convenient working height, spin it around so you can sit in one place and work on it, and, if it needs to go to a specific bench work station, roll it there and transfer it with the engine hoist. (I suppose I should point out that modern military rack design calls for integrated lift points for hooks and cables.) With a similar inspiration, you can work with the biggest BA's in your garage. (Appliance dolly wheels are good if the rack is moderately tall, maybe too tall to put on a cart.) And if you are seriously into BA's, then your shack has roll-in access, right? And you also should own a pickup truck, or at minimum, have your car equipped with a decent hitch so you can rent one of those open "garden" trailers so you can fetch the real prize BA's. Another Ed: -- Ed WB6WSN El Cajon, CA USA Article: 99236 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Terry O'Neill" Subject: Need IF transformer Message-ID: Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 18:36:09 GMT I need an IF transformer for an old TMC GPR90 receiver I am attempting to repair. This is one of the 455kc IF transformer cans. Specs are 95 micro henry; Can size is H= 2 3/4" x W= 1 3/8" x D= 1 3/8"; Q=82. Any help would be appreciated. Article: 99237 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: chris+news@suslowicz.org (Chris Suslowicz) Subject: Re: How do you move boatanchors around? Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 20:49:04 +0100 Message-ID: References: In article , "Ed" wrote: >I have just realized that I am as old as my radios. I can't pick up 100 >pound transmitters any more. How do you move them around the shack from >work bench to work station for repair and operation, by yourself? One of the things I regret not rescueing from the dumpster at work was a "Genie" trolley that was used when removing/replacing heavy parts in the mainframe computer. Think of a porter's trolley/sacktruck fitted with long stabilising feet (low enough to go *under* a 19" rack) with ball casters on the ends, and a moveable platform that can be raised and lowered by a handcranked winch. Add to that various gripping and clamping fixtures that could be bolted to the platform to hold stuff and a maximum loading of about 300 pounds. The winch cable had come off at one end and they scrapped it. 8-(> The only drawback is that it needs a solid (and flat) floor to work on, which is not nice for *you* to work on. If I ever see another, I shall grab it! Chris. (Next project: 96 pounds of Reception Set R107 - some knobs missing and a certain amount of rust, but it looks otherwise OK.) Article: 99238 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Mr Fed UP" References: <%P3ye.31724$qm.21800@bignews5.bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: FA toob books 1960s etc. boatanchor manuals Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:34:12 -0500 " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:pk9ye.42045$go.39083@fed1read05... > > "Mr Fed UP" wrote in message > news:%P3ye.31724$qm.21800@bignews5.bellsouth.net... >> FA toob books 1960s etc. boatanchor manuals Cleanin shed out. >> Only post for my short list TY & GL. Save em from the dumper. ;-) >> >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZglcalvert >> >> > > Nice thought, "saving from the dumpster", but your starting prices > look more like an attempt at early retirement! > Oh nooooo. Wouldn't think of it.... already tired and paying for hospital quad by passes and back surgery. Sorry didn't study ebay for starting prices. Everyone's SS taxes paid most of the 80K for the by pass surgery Thanks U.S. Tax payers! But still a lot left for fixed (lol) incomer. 73 WB9SMX Article: 99239 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: How do you move boatanchors around? Message-ID: <9blye.44421$go.15114@fed1read05> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:15:44 -0400 "Ed" wrote in message news:gMKdndqu_divc1XfRVn-rw@giganews.com... > I have just realized that I am as old as my radios. I can't pick up 100 > pound transmitters any more. How do you move them around the shack from > work bench to work station for repair and operation, by yourself? > Thanks, > Ed > > I have the same problems with 100 lbs. receivers, going in and out of a six foot rack!! The AR-88D is a 98 lb. beast! Article: 99240 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: <9blye.44421$go.15114@fed1read05> Subject: Re: How do you move boatanchors around? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:40:00 -0400 "Bob Rinaldi" wrote in message news:GJudnbgoauxYQlTfRVn-oA@comcast.com... > I sold them all.... > > Boxing and packing had to be even worse! Pete Article: 99241 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Plessey PR155 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:43:13 -0400 "Andrew Holme" wrote in message news:da8vgg$h8v$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk... > Scott Dorsey wrote: > > Andrew Holme wrote: > >> > >> My PR155 has 50 Hz phase modulation sidebands on the interpolating > >> VFO, when operating from AC mains. It's clean running from external > >> DC, but the sidebands return if the mains transformer primary is > >> energised with the secondary open-circuited. Could it be the > >> magnetic field? Has anyone else noticed this? > > > This sounds like a it could be a classic case of "tunable hum." Does adding a good ground to the chassis eliminate the hum, or lessen it? Are the mains lines bypassed to the chassis in the radio? It is not unusual for the mains to become part of the antenna counterpoise, which under some circumstances can impose a AC line frequency modulation on the received carrier. Pete k1zjh Article: 99242 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Gregg Subject: Re: Need IF transformer Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 20:04:27 -0700 References: Message-ID: <42c9f8b1$1_1@dowco.com> Behold, Terry O'Neill scribed on tube chassis: > I need an IF transformer for an old TMC GPR90 receiver I am attempting > to repair. This is one of the 455kc IF transformer cans. > > Specs are 95 micro henry; Can size is H= 2 3/4" x W= 1 3/8" x D= 1 > 3/8"; Q=82. > > Any help would be appreciated. 95uH is awful low for 455KHz. Have you the patience to rewind it yourself? -- Gregg "t3h g33k" http://geek.scorpiorising.ca *Ratings are for transistors, tubes have guidelines* Article: 99243 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Message-ID: <42CA1A6D.61D12B2C@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: How do you move boatanchors around? References: Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 05:28:37 GMT K3HVG wrote: > > Ed, Although I can still move many of my vintage BA's via "personal > mobility", I have a flat-top work cart that's a bit more than desk > height. I transfer to the cart, then to the bench. Beats the heck out > of trying to horse an R-390A around. Similar carts are available from > Harbor Freight. Look for one without the raised sides, though.. that's > the key. Just turn the top tray upside down, or make a plywood cap that drops over the tray. That way you can use the same cart for different jobs. I cut 1/2" plywood and drop it into the bottom of the tray and add a thin piece of industrial carpet to protect the finish on things that spend a lot of time on the bottom tray. -- http://home.earthlink.net/~computersforvets/ Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 99244 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Message-ID: <42CA1B09.3D664928@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: How do you move boatanchors around? References: <_Fbye.41722$Xv.37292@bignews4.bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 05:31:11 GMT Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote: > > Ed wrote: > > I have just realized that I am as old as my radios. I can't pick up 100 > > pound transmitters any more. > > Even in my younger days, since most of my radios weigh as much as I do - > (since I'm around 100 pounds myself) this has always been an issue. > While he's often a PITA; that's one of the main reasons I keep Randy > around: he's still useful as "gorilla" - ah - er "crane"! ;>). > > Seriously - a sturdy cart about the right height to "slide" 390s, AR88s, > RAO-6's, ART13s and such to and from tables, the work bench, etc. is a > must. Equally seriously - recruiting help when moving the big ones goes > from being a convenience - to a necessity. > -- > Sherry Be careful Sherry, you know he reads this newsgroup, too. ;-) -- http://home.earthlink.net/~computersforvets/ Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 99245 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: gsm@mendelson.com (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) Subject: Re: WANTED Kenwood filter YK-88A (AM 6KHz) for TS-430S Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 07:41:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In article , Scott Dorsey wrote: > These guys do nice work. I will suggest getting an 8 KC filter instead of > the 6 KC one, though. Noisier, but better-sounding. I have a 4kHz one in my R5000 (compatible with the TS-430). I prefer that to the Kenwood high qaulity 6kHz one. My 430 has the filter so I can't test it, but if you look on the mods pages you find a way of twisting knobs to get it to work without a filter. You could also try the ts-430 yahoo group. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel gsm@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (077)-424-1667 IL Fax: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 VoN Skype: mendelsonfamily. Looking for work as a CTO or consultant in handheld gaming, large systems development, handheld device construction, etc. See U.S. patent applications 20050108591, 20050107165. Article: 99246 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Tubular Subject: Re: Re: Need IF transformer Message-ID: <5oikc196528tt241f8h25b53pf87bqfcgh@4ax.com> References: <42c9f8b1$1_1@dowco.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:56:07 GMT On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 20:04:27 -0700, Gregg wrote: >*Ratings are for transistors, tubes have guidelines* LOL - ya gotta love that line! Article: 99247 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Message-ID: <42CACF85.AFB54432@sympatico.ca> From: Dave Holford Subject: Re: WANTED Kenwood filter YK-88A (AM 6KHz) for TS-430S References: Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:20:53 -0400 > "Opcom" wrote in message > news:gh%xe.505$vT3.0@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... > > Looking for one.. > > > > Kenwood TS-430S optional filter YK-88A (AM 6KHz bandwidth) > > > > Need for shut-in listening to SW broadcasts and the occasional AM ham > > transmission. > > > > The standard Kenwood AM filter is really the SSB filter which is too > > narrow for AM BC SWL. > > > > I realize this is an old part (1986), but maybe there is one out there in > > a '430 that is only used for listening to SSB or CW (AM TX does not > > require this filter, it's only used for wideband RX), or maybe a junker > > TS-430S available I can rob one from. > > > > Filter is plainly labeled and can be seen by removing the top of the > > radio. May be marked "Trio" or "Kenwood" and will be marked "AM FILTER > > YK-88A". > > > > center frequency = 8831.5 KHz > > passband = 6KHz @ -6dB > > attenuation bandwidth = 11KHz >60dB > > > > Thank you, any help would be appreciated, Please decode my e-mail address > > below by removing spaces and subtituting @ for AT and . for DOT (sorry > > spam is a real issue.) > > > > -- > > rest begards, > > Patrick Jankowiak > Hi, I'm replying through the groups since someone might have information relevant to my filter and your needs. I have a Kenwood YK-88A-1 which I used to used in my R-5000. All of the filters in my R-5000 and TS-430 were interchangeable, except that the YK-88A-1 came on a small plug in PCB designed specifically to fit the R-5000 AM filter mounting. I removed the PCB to use one of the SSB filters in my TS-450 which uses all plug in filters; which have the same designation as those in the TS-430 except for the "-1" which signifies the plug in PCB. When I still had my TS-430 I compared the specs and found the only difference was the center frequencies of the CW filters. I'm going into this explanation since the YK-88A-1 spec sheet shows a center frequency of 8830 kHz and as I recall from the TS-430 manual the only filter that differed was the CW one. So - my conclusion, based on comparing AM, CW and SSB filters is that the YK-88A-1 should be identical to the YK-88A except for the plug in PCB, which I have removed. - it also has a part number of L71-0237-.5 and "8H3" stamped on the side. If you are interested I'll be pleased to send you photos to help in your decision. Comments and clarifications are invited. Regards, Dave Article: 99248 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Andrew Holme" Subject: Re: Plessey PR155 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:49:49 +0100 Message-ID: References: Uncle Peter wrote: > Does adding a good ground to the chassis > eliminate the hum, or lessen it? Are the mains lines > bypassed to the chassis in the radio? The mains lines are bypassed to the chassis - right behind the power inlet socket. I probed around this area, after seeing Scott's second post, but all seemed to be in order. > It is not unusual for the mains to become part of the antenna > counterpoise, which under some circumstances can impose > a AC line frequency modulation on the received carrier. The phase modulation is on the local oscillator - never mind received carriers. Thanks, Andrew. Article: 99249 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Message-ID: <42CAE798.8C705AA4@sympatico.ca> From: "M. Kassay" Subject: Heath gear ! Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:03:37 -0400 For Sale... Rare - Heath AM filter for SB 300 series $45 US shipped Heath SB-610 scope $90 US Heath SB-600 speaker $40 US Heath SB-310 receiver $240 US Heath SB-650 display $110 US ------------------------------------ Manuals for sale -Prices INCLUDE shipping Heath GR-110 vhf scanner $12 US Heath HWA-202-1 pwr supply $11 US Heath IM-18 VTVM $11 US Heath IM-5228 VTVM $11 US Heath SB-300 receiver $13 US Heath HD-1416 code oscillator $10 US Heath IM-11 VTVM $10 US Heath HM-11 swr - pwr meter $11 US Heath HOA-5404-1 Panadapter module $14 US Heath HWA-2036-3 power supply $12 US Heath HW-2036 2m rig $13 US Heath HO-5404 monitor scope $15 US Heath HM-15 swr/pwr meter $10 US Heath HD-1982 micorder mic $8 US Heath HD-1234 ant switch $8 US Heath GD-1019 thermometer $9 US Heath M-1 multimter $9 US Heath SBA-104-1 noise blkr $9 US Heath ID-1590 wind speed/dir $12 US Heath GR-17 am/fm radio $9 US Heath AA-18 amp $9 US Heath OI-1154 aircraft clock $9 US Heath HS-24 speaker $9 US Heath ID-5001 weather 'operation' w/ fold outs $17 US For further info, pls send me an Email. 73 Mike Article: 99250 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Michael Crestohl Subject: FS: Cover and AC Power Cord for AN/USM 159A Frequency Mter Message-ID: <9j1mc111i288bkkjoitue0d53n659gjhel@4ax.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:26:27 GMT Hi Gang: I found this in the basement and don't need it because I don't have this piece of equipment. I can't even recall how I came to have it. If you have one of these freq meters (with the cool film strip readout) missing the cover here's your chance to pick it up. It is in very clean condition; paintwork is excellent with a couple of die-size abrasions on the front. Rubber sealing gasket is excellent. The AC line cord is also there but the plug is missing. I'm asking $15.00 plus postage for it; any takers? Please reply by e-mail. Tnx es 73, Michael, W1RC w1rc*at*verizon-dot-com Article: 99251 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Message-ID: <42CB2266.9060406@sbcglobal.net> From: "David G. Nagel" Subject: To Pluto Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 00:14:36 GMT Arnal; Found this on the QRZ web site. You can send your name/callsign all the way to Pluto free of charge. The New Horizons mission is due to launch January 11th 2006 to perform reconnaissance of Pluto-Charon and the Kuiper Belt. All the names entered on the website below will be recorded on a CD which will be mounted on the spacecraft before it begins it's historic journey to Pluto and beyond. Dial Up: http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/ecard/sendName_ecard_content_low.html Broadband: http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/ecard/sendName_ecard_content.html To get your call sign included just enter it after your last name, eg John Doe/M0JAD When you've entered your name there is a very nice certificate available for you to print out. New Horizons Home Page: http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/ Dave Article: 99252 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "kh" Message-ID: <0QMXZWh9EdSr-pn2-f24nLzP1MnY5@slip-12-65-6-7.mis.prserv.net> Subject: Re: FS: VERY CLEAN COLLINS 75S-1 RECEIVER References: Date: 6 Jul 2005 02:41:35 GMT On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 00:13:42 UTC, "Bob Rinaldi" wrote: > > > VERY CLEAN COLLINS 75S-1 RECEIVER, WITH WATERS Q-MULTIPLIER. > > $550 including shippinig to U.S. 48 States. > > Please email me for images. > > Thanks, > > 73, Bob > W1CNY > Hey Bob, not to bust your chops or anything but you've been trying to sell this 75S-1 and 32S-1 combination for weeks on eBay and you had offers of: $869 from wb6vhk (June 13-23 auction) $752.99 from mailordergun (June 23-June 30 auction) $799 from gottahaveit1995/radiomart (July 1-July 4) You're not going to do better here in boatanchors. This is a cheap crowd. I wouldn't mind owning that pair myself but that price seems high considering that the 75S-1 has been "modded" and that Art Collins didn't like serializing his products. I understand that the early S-lines were serialized in sequence but I also know that they were built in batches, very likely any sub-400 serial number S-line was built before or after any other. I own 75S-1 serial number 55, got it from Dave (recommended seller, along a couple others I've delt with here). Dave and I did the deal below $300 on eBay. I also adopted 75S-1 serial number 85 from Jeep, so I kinda have a mini-collection of these low serial number radios. I consider early S-lines an investment but only if the price is right. As I said, given how small batch manufacturing works and Art Collins known dislike for sequential serial numbers, my #55 or #85 could have come off the line before your #2. They were obviously part of the very first run. The difference is, mine doesn't have the Waters Q-multiplier, which has value to someone who uses the radio, but diminishes the value to a "collector". If you want to sell the radio, you got a good offer from wb6vhk although, I wouldn't mind seeing how Marty/Radiomart hypes the serial number story. Again, not to bust your chops, just my comments. de ah6gi/4 Article: 99253 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "John Reynolds" Subject: F.A. MFJ Anteena Tuner MFJ-986 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 07:59:23 +0100 Message-ID: Please see http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5787418773&ssPageName=A DME:B:LC:UK:1 Article: 99254 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "John Reynolds" Subject: F.A. RT-196/PRC. Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:11:17 +0100 Message-ID: Please see. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5787423620&rd=1&sspagen ame=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 Article: 99255 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Kevin Gunther" References: <42CB2266.9060406@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: To Pluto Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 07:47:24 -0500 "David G. Nagel" wrote in message news:42CB2266.9060406@sbcglobal.net... > Arnal; > Found this on the QRZ web site. > > > You can send your name/callsign all the way to Pluto free of charge. > > The New Horizons mission is due to launch January 11th 2006 to perform > reconnaissance of Pluto-Charon and the Kuiper Belt. > > All the names entered on the website below will be recorded on a CD > which will be mounted on the spacecraft before it begins it's historic > journey to Pluto and beyond. > > Dial Up: > http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/ecard/sendName_ecard_content_low.html > > Broadband: > http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/ecard/sendName_ecard_content.html > > To get your call sign included just enter it after your last name, eg > > John Doe/M0JAD > > When you've entered your name there is a very nice certificate available > for you to print out. > > New Horizons Home Page: http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/ > > Dave Is there room for my XYL? Article: 99256 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "AAA RF Products" Subject: New Coax Connector & Adapter Catalog Now Available Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:39:55 -0700 Please email or call for your free copy of our latest coax connector, adapter, cable assembly & bulk coaxial cable catalog. No minimum order No handling fees. web: www.aaarfproducts.com email: sales@aaarfproducts.com call: 949 481 3154 fax: 949 388 5448 mail: AAA RF Products, 949 Calle Amanecer, San Clemente, CA 92673 USA Article: 99257 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Bill Smith" References: <42BBFBB7.20706@nrao.edu> Subject: Re: How big has Somerset, PA hamfest been in the past? Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:07:14 -0400 Message-ID: <42cc39e2$0$52206$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com> "straydog" wrote in message news:Pine.NEB.4.62.0506261856170.28426@sdf.lonestar.org... > > > On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Galen Watts wrote: > >> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:25:27 -0400 >> From: Galen Watts >> To: straydog >> Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap, rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors, >> rec.radio.amateur.equipment, rec.radio.amateur.homebrew >> Subject: Re: How big has Somerset, PA hamfest been in the past? >> >> straydog wrote: >>> >>> I think July 17, is the next Somerset PA hamfest and I've been thinking >>> about going. Its a long drive from here (southern Delaware) and I was >>> wondering how big and how good it has been in the past. Anyone got any >>> recollections from the past? >>> >>> Art, w4pon >> >> They have pictures of last year's fest at >> http://www.k3smt.org/hf2004/ >> >> -W8LNA >> > > Thanks for the info... > > I had a look. > > W4PON > > Hello Art, This is only our second annual hamfest. Last year it was held in August, a day after the hurricane came thru. Our turnout was only about 300. Feedback so far this year says we should have between 500-750. Good odds for winning a door prize or the main drawing. Worst case, we're only 6 miles from the 9/11 Flight 93 Crash Site / Memorial. That in itself would make the trip worth it. The Somerset Somerfest is also running from Friday thru Sunday. Food, Music, Fun... I should work for the Chamber of Commerce...HiHi Hope to see you here. Bill kb3gun http://www.k3smt.org Article: 99258 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "U-Know-Who" References: <1120668254.300765.326040@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: New Coax Connector & Adapter Catalog Now Available Message-ID: Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:34:48 GMT wrote in message news:1120668254.300765.326040@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Do you have a link without having to use the plug in? I refuse to use > the plug in as I do not like all the advertisements dancing in my face. Maybe he can type one on a manual typewriter and snail mail it to you. Sheesh!!! > If not, there are plenty of other vendors. Thank you. > > Richard > > Email address is only for google groups log in. > > > > AAA RF Products wrote: >> Please email or call for your free copy of our latest coax connector, >> adapter, cable assembly & bulk coaxial cable catalog. >> >> No minimum order >> >> No handling fees. >> >> >> web: www.aaarfproducts.com >> email: sales@aaarfproducts.com >> call: 949 481 3154 >> fax: 949 388 5448 >> mail: AAA RF Products, 949 Calle Amanecer, San Clemente, CA 92673 USA > Article: 99259 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Reg Edwards" Subject: New program. Two SWR meters Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:19:38 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: This program models the behaviour of a transmission line plus antenna. The line impedance can have any Zo. The antenna feedpoint impedance can be any value of R+jX. Line length can be any fraction and number of wavelengths. Line overall attenuation can be any value of dBs. There is an SWR meter located at each end of the line. The meters also indicate the reflection coefficients at the locations. Meter Zo can be set equal to line Zo or to the standard 50 ohms. Line input impedance can be observed to change versus line length in wave-lengths, line attenuation and antenna impedance. The transforming action of the line can be demonstrated. The smaller SWR and reflection coefficient at the transmitter end of the line can be seen. The exact increase in loss due to standing waves on the line is calculated. The program can be used in practical applications and also for educational purposes. It is hoped it may prevent the outbreaks in violence which frequently occur in newsgroups about the meanings of SWR and the notions of reflected power. Download program SWRARGUE from website below in a few seconds. File size = 41 Kbytes. Run immediately. No unzipping inconvenience. ---- ........................................................... Regards from Reg, G4FGQ For Free Radio Design Software go to http://www.btinternet.com/~g4fgq.regp ........................................................... Article: 99260 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "kh" Message-ID: <0QMXZWh9EdSr-pn2-dRTqu9SucyDX@localhost> Subject: Re: TO: ah6gi/4 References: Date: 7 Jul 2005 00:30:15 GMT On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 03:30:23 UTC, "Bob Rinaldi" wrote: > > Hi: > > Well, its not a happy situation.....I'm trying to help a divorced lady meet > the court's decree that all of her ex's equipment must be sold. So I've > been trying to sell her gear for her (at no charge). And that just means > I'm trying to do what I can to get her the best price....And that includes > the 75S2 and 32S2 that I have up on ebay also. > > These are legimately rare according to Rob Blocksome, so I'm trying for > $1800 on those..but will take $1500.... I've seen the name Blocksome but gotta disagree with the conclusion. I don't think the S-2's are especially valuable. Back to the serial number 2 units.... Given that the auctions on the Serial Number 2 units has come in at about $400 each, that's the price. Both for $800 roughly. My own feeling is that a serial number 2 set is probably "valuable" but unless I'm willing to put down my own money, my feelings don't count. It's only worth what the market says it's worth, not a penny more. And for a lot of reasons, I would/could not bid even half what you've received. > > Yes, I've been trying a few times with those rigs. > > Privately we have sold a 32S3A, 75S3C, 30K-1, KW-1, A4/KWS-1, SC-101, and a > 62S-1 for her. Well, those are primo units, 32S3A's are going for a fortune but I've been watching the radio collectable market and prices seem "soft" to me. The Collins group has a couple KWS-1's for sale. I think it's because of several factors: 1. Radios have not crossed over into the general Yup-boomer, nut-case, metro-sexual, "collectable", PBS-Antique-Roadshow market, where a wooden chicken is worth tens of thousands of dollars. If that ever happens, watch out! A 75S-1 would be worth fifty grand. That's any 75S-1. Well, Catalin radios have crossed over but not S-Lines. 2. Hams are "cheap" and think of radios as appliances. "It doesn't work as well as an IC-720 or TS-520 and I can get that for $150." Well, yeah. But that's not the point of a boatanchor. 3. There are relatively lots of S-lines and similar radios. These look expensive so even the clueless didn't toss them out. Except for the reports of S-Lines and KWM-2's crushed or abandoned at the end of the Vietnam war, most of the radios have survived. So many that a 1958 75S-1 is worth "about" $250, maybe $300. This is just me but I'm expecting a *real* boom in the value of Collins. How much? How high is the sky? I know folk who collect military stuff, civil war, WWI, medals, guns, reproductions even. I wonder why Collins and other Vietnam and cold war era radio's don't appear in military collections. Curtis LeMay, SAC, Listening Posts, Signal Intercept, the woodpecker, all that cold war era stuff was interwoven with Collins and MARS, and the dawn of SSB. Instead we have the Antique Roadshow on PBS and silly yups bidding up the price of wooden chickens. > > So, I appreciate your comments, and I do understand... > > Thanks, > > 73, Bob > W1CNY Good luck to you and that lady. Seems strange that she got the radios in the divorce, probably a sad story there. de ah6gi/4 Article: 99261 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Brian Hill" References: <-Zadnf_1Nf8jS1bfRVn-uw@comcast.com> <1120669206.063199.21900@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <0kWye.12862$Si3.10785@fe06.lga> <1120682679.009784.150090@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FA: National HRO Junior Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:16:32 -0500 wrote in message news:1120682679.009784.150090@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Brian Hill wrote: >> wrote in message >> news:1120669206.063199.21900@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> > Hi Art, >> > >> > FWIW I don't think the spkr is orig & it wouldn't be a good idea to try >> > connecting it to the radio. The radio outputs hi-z & the orig spkr has >> > an xfmr to deal with it (to the v/c z). It looks like the Quam in the >> > pic has a bracket that once many have held an xfmr, but the style of >> > the orig cab is very similar to the HRO-5 series & not what's depicted. >> > >> > It'd be a good idea to show the front (panel) of the doghouse supply & >> > a readable pic of its tag, too. The FB-7's supply was commonly shipped >> > with the 2.5v early sets. >> > >> >> That spkr had a transformer a one time. Look at the bracket. > > I did, & said the same thing in my post. (?) > So sorry said the blind man :) Article: 99262 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "David Thompson" References: Subject: Re: FS Dow-Key TR Relay Message-ID: <8J0ze.5665$aY6.5012@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 02:47:32 GMT SOLD "David Thompson" wrote in message news:Rkmxe.2198$aY6.2049@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > I have a Dow-Key DKC-TRP 117V TR Relay in good condition. Works on AM, CW, > or SSB. Some documentation. Comes with a 35EH5. Fairly rare. > $40 shipped USA. > > Dave K4JRB thompson@mindspring.com > > Article: 99263 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Message-ID: <42CCA131.2F02474F@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: How do you move boatanchors around? References: Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 03:28:58 GMT tchrme wrote: > > Isn't that why we have kids? My son is 6'4" 200lbs and an electronic > engineering major so he knows about delicate equipement. 73 Mike KF6KXG No kids, I walk with a cane and I like to work on heavy old receivers and test equipment so I had to find something that works for me. -- http://home.earthlink.net/~computersforvets/ Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 99264 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Gregg Subject: Re: New Coax Connector & Adapter Catalog Now Available Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:46:53 -0700 References: <1120668254.300765.326040@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1120691030.708885.179160@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <42cca599$1_1@dowco.com> Behold, AKC owns this NG scribed on tube chassis: > and maybe you will not be a fairy crackhead someday too, Chapwoman the > sissy boy. Well aren't you the right little loser. -- Gregg "t3h g33k" http://geek.scorpiorising.ca *Ratings are for transistors, tubes have guidelines* Article: 99265 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: ritchi50@optonline.net Subject: Painting NC-303 Cabinet cost Message-ID: Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:50:21 -0400 Painting NC-303 Cabinet cost Hi I have a National NC-303 and the cabinet needs to be repainted. Can someone tell me how much this would cost? Thanks...Rich ritchi50@optonline.net