Article: 100648 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Peter Voelpel" Subject: Noiseblanker R4C Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:58:02 +0100 Message-ID: opportunity to get the noiseblanker for the R4C receiver, not my auction... Ebay item # 5830968039 http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5830968039&rd=1&sspagename =STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 Peter Article: 100649 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: David Stinson Subject: (2) Two RT-70s plus AM-65, 12 volts PS and Working Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:04:37 GMT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6578695865 Thanks for looking. Article: 100650 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: mike murphy Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:12:28 GMT anyone ever expect to get a notice of rates going down? Article: 100651 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 13:12:56 -0700 Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> "Chuck Harris" wrote in message news:HvKdnXM6MqI3--LenZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@rcn.net... > mike murphy wrote: >> anyone ever expect to get a notice of rates going down? > > The rates can't go down, because the economy keeps inflating. > The inflation rate may be slow, 1% to 5% per year, but it is > inflating none the less. > > Everyone wants their salaries to keep rising, so ... yeah thats the ticket. salaries are skyrocketing so fast its causing inflation..... voted for bush too, did ya? randy Article: 100652 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: David Stinson Subject: Old ROBOT SSTV Gear Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:08:54 GMT Know anyone who collects the old ROBOT SSTV Gear? I have one of the original, reel-to-reel test tapes that came with the gear. I'd like to send it to a good home. 73 Dave S. Article: 100653 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <1TMff.966$792.181@trnddc08> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:33:49 GMT Chuck Harris wrote: > The rates can't go down, because the economy keeps inflating. > The inflation rate may be slow, 1% to 5% per year, but it is > inflating none the less. > > Everyone wants their salaries to keep rising, so ... > > -Chuck The economy keeps inflating cuz we have a president who spends money like a drunken sailor on a saturday night. The national deficit is trillions cause he doesnt know how or want to balance a budget. Course we got a War going that is costing us billions and dont forget our prez's oil buddies who got a nice tax cut while making billions in profits. Not surprising UPS has to raise rates when diesel is $3 a gallon or more.... I havent even mentioned about ham gear going up cause the yen is strong against our deficited dollar- and its going to get much worse. Lazy Senior Article: 100654 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:37:52 GMT Chuck Harris wrote: > Whether or not I voted for Bush is of course, immaterial. Do you > recall the level of inflation that existed when Carter was president? > How about the relative gas prices? Oh, probably not, you weren't born yet. > -Chuck That's the way to go, ridicule someone you dont agree with.. Most people dont care what happened 25 yrs ago, we are worried about now and the future..... Lazy Senior Article: 100655 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:53:45 GMT > > voted for bush too, did ya? > > randy > > Carefull, Bush supporters are a bit testy these days...... Lazy Senior Article: 100656 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:59:50 -0500 "Lazy Senior" wrote in message news:J9Nff.1009$792.780@trnddc08... > > > Carefull, Bush supporters are a bit testy these days...... > > Lazy Senior Better watch it. They are talking about cutting back on the food stamp program. It might be back to catfood for you. Article: 100657 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "MTM" Subject: FS: Yamaha DMC 1000 Digital Mixer..(2) SPX 1000's Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 22:43:51 GMT FS: Yamaha DMC 1000 Digital Mixer.. Some would call this a "Boatanchor" Has (2) SPX 1000's built in on board Great shape...(2-Consoles available..) Pix available... Several AD/DA converter options also available Many Delivery options available...All across the US..Before X-mass. Feel free to contact me ASAP... -- Thanks........Mike.......... 814-450-7979-c res0i8ad@verizon.net FS: Yamaha DMC 1000 Digital Mixer..(2) SPX 1000's Article: 100658 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "MTM" Subject: RE: Collins 9305 Tuner-RF Unit...? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 01:20:09 GMT Hello..........NG Anyone know anything about : RE: Collins 9305 Tuner-RF Unit..... Also says....540 9967 002 MOD 10....? Pix available...Please advise.. -- Thanks........Mike.......... 814-450-7979-c res0i8ad@verizon.net RE: Collins 9305 Tuner-RF Unit...? Article: 100659 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Bob Miller Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: <7hnvn15ekp9m8stkqra5m9phntav1rd5ao@4ax.com> References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 02:27:30 GMT On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:18:45 -0400, Bill wrote: >David Stinson wrote: > >> ...Since you are a UPS customer, we want to give you advance notice of >> new UPS rates that will take effect January 2, 2006. You can click here >> by December 12, 2005 to request a reminder e-mail when the new rates go >> into effect and the 2006 UPS Rate and Service Guide is available on >> ups.comŽ. > >They're just doing that to keep up with the USPS rate increase because >they have the opportunity to get away with it :( > >-Bill I think they're just trying to deal with higher fuel prices. One of my regional delivery services, Lone Star Overnight, now adds a "Fuel Surcharge" to all deliveries. It's about $1.50 to $2.00 for a run of about 180 miles. Bob k5qwg Article: 100660 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Tony Sokol" References: Subject: Re: FS Viking Valiant (again) SOLD! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 03:37:00 GMT The Valiant was sold at the Ft. Wayne Hamfest. 73 Tony "Tony Sokol" wrote in message news:R13ff.460$Ba6.209@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... > Well folks, > The original buyer for the Valiant had to back out. This is a nice > clean unit with the exception of some scratches under the meter which > should be relatively easy to touch up. I did fire it up and it puts out a > little over 100 watts so a set of finals is probably in order as well as > some recapping. The cabinet looks like a good repaint. The underside > looks good with no mods that I can detect at first glance. I am asking > $425 with a copy of the manual. Since it is so heavy I think local pick > or meeting within a reasonable distance of the NW Chicago suburbs is in > order. I will also be going to the Ft. Wayne hamfest this weekend. I do > have pictures and there is one on QTH.com. > > 73 > Tony - W9JXN > > > Article: 100661 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "r" Subject: PC CW Reader Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 00:40:45 -0500 Looking for good sound card software to use as a CW reader. Can anyone help? Article: 100662 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Gene Rodgers" Subject: WANTED! Motorola Mostar Interface Box (MIB) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 07:16:54 GMT I want to find a schematic for the Motorola Mostar Interface Box. I need a MIB to program my Mostars. Thanks, Gene ke5bfa Article: 100663 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Smokey" Subject: Shure 444 escutcheon to give away Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 08:38:31 -0600 Message-ID: <11o12jasu42tff6@corp.supernews.com> If anyone needs to replace the brushed aluminum escutcheon on the from of their 444 microphone (the L-angled piece with the Shure logo silkscreened on its front), I have one and you can have it for free if you'll send me $1 for the return postage. Smokey Article: 100664 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "YT" References: Subject: Re: PC CW Reader Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 17:52:50 GMT http://www.muenster.de/~welp/sb.htm "r" wrote in message news:hZTff.74339$ty1.44729@bignews1.bellsouth.net... > Looking for good sound card software to use as a CW reader. Can anyone > help? > Article: 100665 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:17:04 -0600 From: Terry Sellick Subject: R390A parts References: Message-ID: <20758$4380bd9b$4087da85$16222@FOXVALLEY.NET> Where can I find R390A parts? I have tried Fair Radio and Surplus Sales without luck. Any other suggestions? I need the Dial Lock mechanism. I would even be willing to buy an R390A parts radio if the price was right. Thanks Terry WA9TTY Article: 100666 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: AndyB Subject: Re: PC CW Reader References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:36:16 GMT r wrote: > Looking for good sound card software to use as a CW reader. Can anyone > help? > > CwGet is pretty popular: http://www.dxsoft.com/micwget.htm Lots of programs decode CW but can be overly complicated as they try to do everything else too. This is fairly straightforward without being backwards if you get my drift. Cheers Andy -- Get your free morse ringtone at http://www.planetofnoise.com Article: 100667 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kashe@sonic.net Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:18:52 -0800 Message-ID: <8cm1o192ab8cvgq5nlseae1aea51h1lob9@4ax.com> References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:07:19 -0500, Chuck Harris wrote: >xrongor wrote: >> "Chuck Harris" wrote in message >> news:HvKdnXM6MqI3--LenZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@rcn.net... >> >>>mike murphy wrote: >>> >>>>anyone ever expect to get a notice of rates going down? >>> >>>The rates can't go down, because the economy keeps inflating. >>>The inflation rate may be slow, 1% to 5% per year, but it is >>>inflating none the less. >>> >>>Everyone wants their salaries to keep rising, so ... >> >> >> yeah thats the ticket. salaries are skyrocketing so fast its causing >> inflation..... >> >> voted for bush too, did ya? > >Whether or not I voted for Bush is of course, immaterial. Do you >recall the level of inflation that existed when Carter was president? >How about the relative gas prices? Oh, probably not, you weren't born yet. > >It is rare for a person's wages to go down. Bullshit -- to the extent that wages don't rise with inflation, they're going down. Except for the employees at the top, whose wages go up even as the company goes down the toilet. There's also the well-known model of "encouraging the employees to work another 10% of hours per week. Of course it's voluntary, but guess what -- it'll be "noticed" the next time the paltry "raise" comes around. They become such spiteful >unhappy campers when that happens that companies would rather lay them >off than lower their wages. > >-Chuck Article: 100668 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kashe@sonic.net Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:20:53 -0800 Message-ID: <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:37:52 GMT, Lazy Senior wrote: >Chuck Harris wrote: > >> Whether or not I voted for Bush is of course, immaterial. Do you >> recall the level of inflation that existed when Carter was president? >> How about the relative gas prices? Oh, probably not, you weren't born yet. > >> -Chuck > >That's the way to go, ridicule someone you dont agree with.. >Most people dont care what happened 25 yrs ago, we are worried about now >and the future..... > >Lazy Senior Silly shit -- if you don't know what happened in the past, you'll never know how badly you're getting screwed in the present. I guess you'd be happy to forget each day how much you made yesterday so they can continue dropping your wages. Article: 100669 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Subject: Re: R390A parts Date: 20 Nov 2005 15:41:42 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20758$4380bd9b$4087da85$16222@FOXVALLEY.NET> Terry Sellick wrote: >Where can I find R390A parts? I have tried Fair Radio and >Surplus Sales without luck. Any other suggestions? I need >the Dial Lock mechanism. I would even be willing to buy an R390A >parts radio if the price was right. Chuck Rippel in Chesapeake, VA. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Article: 100670 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 21:50:18 GMT kashe@sonic.net wrote: .. > > I guess you'd be happy to forget each day how much you made yesterday so > they can continue dropping your wages. Lazy dont gotta worry about wages, he's retired. Old Lazy's gotta worry about the President trying to steal his social Security and Pension and give it to all the Prez's rich friends...... Ole Lazy's also gotta worry about his grandsons getting killed in Iraq too. Lazy Senior Article: 100671 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Leanne" Subject: Hy-Gain 3501BA medium duty, azimuth rotating system Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:43:20 -0500 Message-ID: I have a 3501 rotator and control box(no interconnecting cables). I also have a second rotator for parts. Both rotators are complete and were working when put in storage. I want someone to pickup and get them out of my garage. Too heavy for shipping. There are some other treasures also buried in the garage that you might be able to take home with you. Leanne-W1WXS Article: 100672 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:24:44 -0500 On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:41:32 -0500, "Mark Oppat" wrote: >Iraq, geez, when will we learn??? > >I just heard that the war has cost every taxpayer about $27,000. That will >have to be paid off over how many years now of deficits and cuts in >services? > >It just makes me so mad that we let W (and mainly Cheney and Rumsfeld, who >had been planning this war since before their days in Bush Sr.'s term) run >us into this. I had a "No War" sign on my lawn from the start... so, I can >speak, not like the "hindsight" hawks. > >Imagine if we had gone in there with massive infrastructure improvements. >Iraquis would sure be on our side, we wouldnt have lost 2000+ men, nor >would we have killed 20K+ of them. What a disaster, morally, economically, >and ultimately, for years to come, for our homeland security. Our image in >the world is shit. Those tribes done forget like we do a few years later! >Anyone hear from Osama lately? NO, he's smart. Smarter than us. He'll be >back, maybe 5-8 years from now when our $1.98 security is in full force. > >Mark Oppat > I think we killed more than 20000 of those bastards....hopefully we will get even more. Article: 100673 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: <6c52o15b5srpjkcnmmkmenh8a3hi6nbnqu@4ax.com> References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:33:20 -0500 On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 13:12:56 -0700, "xrongor" wrote: > >"Chuck Harris" wrote in message >news:HvKdnXM6MqI3--LenZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@rcn.net... >> mike murphy wrote: >>> anyone ever expect to get a notice of rates going down? >> >> The rates can't go down, because the economy keeps inflating. >> The inflation rate may be slow, 1% to 5% per year, but it is >> inflating none the less. >> >> Everyone wants their salaries to keep rising, so ... > >yeah thats the ticket. salaries are skyrocketing so fast its causing >inflation..... > >voted for bush too, did ya? > >randy > What a boob! If you have to post this garbage, take it to rec.radio.shortwave. They would love you over there. Article: 100674 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:34:47 -0500 On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:37:52 GMT, Lazy Senior wrote: >Chuck Harris wrote: > >> Whether or not I voted for Bush is of course, immaterial. Do you >> recall the level of inflation that existed when Carter was president? >> How about the relative gas prices? Oh, probably not, you weren't born yet. > >> -Chuck > >That's the way to go, ridicule someone you dont agree with.. >Most people dont care what happened 25 yrs ago, we are worried about now >and the future..... > >Lazy Senior So it's OK for Randy to ridicule Chuck but not the other way around? Article: 100675 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:35:32 -0500 On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:59:50 -0500, " Uncle Peter" wrote: > >"Lazy Senior" wrote in message >news:J9Nff.1009$792.780@trnddc08... >> > >> Carefull, Bush supporters are a bit testy these days...... >> >> Lazy Senior > >Better watch it. They are talking about cutting back on >the food stamp program. It might be back to catfood >for you. > > Canned at that! Article: 100676 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <1TMff.966$792.181@trnddc08> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:36:26 -0500 On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:33:49 GMT, Lazy Senior wrote: >Chuck Harris wrote: > >> The rates can't go down, because the economy keeps inflating. >> The inflation rate may be slow, 1% to 5% per year, but it is >> inflating none the less. >> >> Everyone wants their salaries to keep rising, so ... >> >> -Chuck > >The economy keeps inflating cuz we have a president who spends money >like a drunken sailor on a saturday night. The national deficit is >trillions cause he doesnt know how or want to balance a budget. Course >we got a War going that is costing us billions and dont forget our >prez's oil buddies who got a nice tax cut while making billions in >profits. Not surprising UPS has to raise rates when diesel is $3 a >gallon or more.... > >I havent even mentioned about ham gear going up cause the yen is strong >against our deficited dollar- and its going to get much worse. > >Lazy Senior Better reason to buy boatanchors! Article: 100677 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: <1l52o1dol9egu0fubmfhapqg5a60u8dqns@4ax.com> References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <7hnvn15ekp9m8stkqra5m9phntav1rd5ao@4ax.com> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:37:56 -0500 On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 02:27:30 GMT, Bob Miller wrote: >On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:18:45 -0400, Bill wrote: > >>David Stinson wrote: >> >>> ...Since you are a UPS customer, we want to give you advance notice of >>> new UPS rates that will take effect January 2, 2006. You can click here >>> by December 12, 2005 to request a reminder e-mail when the new rates go >>> into effect and the 2006 UPS Rate and Service Guide is available on >>> ups.comŽ. >> >>They're just doing that to keep up with the USPS rate increase because >>they have the opportunity to get away with it :( >> >>-Bill > >I think they're just trying to deal with higher fuel prices. One of my >regional delivery services, Lone Star Overnight, now adds a "Fuel >Surcharge" to all deliveries. It's about $1.50 to $2.00 for a run of >about 180 miles. > >Bob >k5qwg > It's the same in other industries too. We received a rate increase >from our power company because of fuel costs. Article: 100678 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: 20 Nov 2005 19:49:37 -0500 Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <1TMff.966$792.181@trnddc08> Beerbarrel wrote: > >Better reason to buy boatanchors! Dunno. But it's interesting... after the end of WWII, the amount of surplus equipment on the market was amazing. Even considering the total cost of the war being so high, it was amazing. After Korea, after Vietnam, after the Gulf War, there has been a move to shrink the size of the military a little, but nothing like what happened after WWII. And nothing like the amount of surplus stuff came out either. (There _was_ a lot of interesting captured radio gear on the market after the first Gulf War, though. Lots of ex-Soviet VHF-LO gear. Prices weren't so low, though.) Some of the wideband HF surveillance systems that were installed in the eighties should be about getting ready for boatanchor status, shouldn't they? I'll be looking forward to that. But it'll be very interesting to see what happens after this war is over, or at least when the buildup is over. Lots of UHF satellite gear coming down the pike in another five to ten years? --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Article: 100679 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: <4h72o1ttefssm9sphjkutmoee6jge7op6h@4ax.com> References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <1TMff.966$792.181@trnddc08> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:09:31 -0500 On 20 Nov 2005 19:49:37 -0500, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote: >Beerbarrel wrote: >> >>Better reason to buy boatanchors! > >Dunno. But it's interesting... after the end of WWII, the amount of surplus >equipment on the market was amazing. Even considering the total cost of >the war being so high, it was amazing. > >After Korea, after Vietnam, after the Gulf War, there has been a move to >shrink the size of the military a little, but nothing like what happened >after WWII. And nothing like the amount of surplus stuff came out either. > >(There _was_ a lot of interesting captured radio gear on the market after >the first Gulf War, though. Lots of ex-Soviet VHF-LO gear. Prices weren't >so low, though.) > >Some of the wideband HF surveillance systems that were installed in the >eighties should be about getting ready for boatanchor status, shouldn't >they? I'll be looking forward to that. > >But it'll be very interesting to see what happens after this war is over, >or at least when the buildup is over. Lots of UHF satellite gear coming >down the pike in another five to ten years? >--scott I'll keep my fingers crossed Scott. I sure would like to be on the receiving end of some of those goodies! Article: 100680 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Ron H" References: Subject: Re: PC CW Reader Message-ID: <4j9gf.64892$QH3.12528@fe17.lga> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:21:55 -0600 The best that I've seen is CWGet (google it to find) I've tried a dozen or more over the years and they all work somewhat. They all copy machine generated CW fine but none of them work as well as the human ear!!! Throw a little noise or QRM at them and they fall apart. K3PID Ron H. "r" wrote in message news:hZTff.74339$ty1.44729@bignews1.bellsouth.net... > Looking for good sound card software to use as a CW reader. Can anyone > help? > > Article: 100681 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 01:35:39 GMT Beerbarrel wrote: > > So it's OK for Randy to ridicule Chuck but not the other way around? We dont need to ridicule, or make fun of, or call names of people we dont agree with. Nothing wrong with disagreeing and showing someone the error of their ways. What I have a problem with is (many people with egos on this forum do this) trying to belittle people. Disagree YES - belittle, call names - NO....... Article: 100682 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 21:09:54 -0500 On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 01:35:39 GMT, Lazy Senior wrote: >Beerbarrel wrote: >> >> So it's OK for Randy to ridicule Chuck but not the other way around? > >We dont need to ridicule, or make fun of, or call names of people we >dont agree with. Nothing wrong with disagreeing and showing someone the >error of their ways. What I have a problem with is (many people with >egos on this forum do this) trying to belittle people. > >Disagree YES - belittle, call names - NO....... If that is your stance then you probably don't need to be on Usenet. You either get thick skin or leave. It gets really rough sometimes without moderation. I get a lot of crap but give it too sometimes. I find that moderated forums are the place to go if you have thin skin. Article: 100683 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:18:42 -0700 Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> "John Byrns" wrote in message news:jbyrns-2011051835280001@216-80-74-150.d.enteract.com... > In article , "Mark Oppat" > wrote: > >> Iraq, geez, when will we learn??? >> >> I just heard that the war has cost every taxpayer about $27,000. That >> will >> have to be paid off over how many years now of deficits and cuts in >> services? > > Are you sure about that number, it sounds a little high? What has the > monetary cost of the war been up to this point, and how many taxpayers > does it assume? ignoring any personal feelings i have against the war for other reasons: lets say its high. lets say that is more than twice as high as what it is. lets say its only 10,000 per taxpayer. do you pay taxes? how many years would it take you to pay 10,000 in taxes if they jacked your taxes by 500/year? do you want to pay 500 more a year for the next 20 years just to pay for this war? if mark is right, thats 1300 a year more for 20 years.... whatever the cost, its high and we still need a plan to pay it off. randy Article: 100684 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:19:53 -0700 Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> "Beerbarrel" wrote in message news:ci52o191a1i8lkts4jurqe0cde0ft02p5a@4ax.com... > On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:59:50 -0500, " Uncle Peter" > wrote: > >> >>"Lazy Senior" wrote in message >>news:J9Nff.1009$792.780@trnddc08... >>> > >>> Carefull, Bush supporters are a bit testy these days...... >>> >>> Lazy Senior >> >>Better watch it. They are talking about cutting back on >>the food stamp program. It might be back to catfood >>for you. >> >> > > > > Canned at that! ah the conservatives always bring it down to this level when they have nothing else to say. randy Article: 100685 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 21:34:29 -0500 On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:19:53 -0700, "xrongor" wrote: > >"Beerbarrel" wrote in message >news:ci52o191a1i8lkts4jurqe0cde0ft02p5a@4ax.com... >> On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:59:50 -0500, " Uncle Peter" >> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Lazy Senior" wrote in message >>>news:J9Nff.1009$792.780@trnddc08... >>>> > >>>> Carefull, Bush supporters are a bit testy these days...... >>>> >>>> Lazy Senior >>> >>>Better watch it. They are talking about cutting back on >>>the food stamp program. It might be back to catfood >>>for you. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Canned at that! > >ah the conservatives always bring it down to this level when they have >nothing else to say. > >randy > Well said Mr. Liberal! Want to share the cat food? Article: 100686 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:39:20 -0700 Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> "Beerbarrel" wrote in message news:cgc2o15kmhjsvsn7ul1s7ucstbedepi31h@4ax.com... > On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:19:53 -0700, "xrongor" > wrote: > >> >>"Beerbarrel" wrote in message >>news:ci52o191a1i8lkts4jurqe0cde0ft02p5a@4ax.com... >>> On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:59:50 -0500, " Uncle Peter" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>"Lazy Senior" wrote in message >>>>news:J9Nff.1009$792.780@trnddc08... >>>>> > >>>>> Carefull, Bush supporters are a bit testy these days...... >>>>> >>>>> Lazy Senior >>>> >>>>Better watch it. They are talking about cutting back on >>>>the food stamp program. It might be back to catfood >>>>for you. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Canned at that! >> >>ah the conservatives always bring it down to this level when they have >>nothing else to say. >> >>randy >> > > > > Well said Mr. Liberal! Want to share the cat food? see what i mean? randy Article: 100687 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "GHB" Subject: MESSENGER 500 HIGH DRIVE AMP Message-ID: <5xagf.3510$wf.1275@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 02:45:21 GMT Does anyone know how much power is needed to drive this amp to full output? Also, does anyone know the modification to convert this amp to a regular Messenger 500? Gordon Article: 100688 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 21:47:07 -0500 On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:39:20 -0700, "xrongor" wrote: > >"Beerbarrel" wrote in message >news:cgc2o15kmhjsvsn7ul1s7ucstbedepi31h@4ax.com... >> On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:19:53 -0700, "xrongor" >> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Beerbarrel" wrote in message >>>news:ci52o191a1i8lkts4jurqe0cde0ft02p5a@4ax.com... >>>> On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:59:50 -0500, " Uncle Peter" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Lazy Senior" wrote in message >>>>>news:J9Nff.1009$792.780@trnddc08... >>>>>> > >>>>>> Carefull, Bush supporters are a bit testy these days...... >>>>>> >>>>>> Lazy Senior >>>>> >>>>>Better watch it. They are talking about cutting back on >>>>>the food stamp program. It might be back to catfood >>>>>for you. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Canned at that! >>> >>>ah the conservatives always bring it down to this level when they have >>>nothing else to say. >>> >>>randy >>> >> >> >> >> Well said Mr. Liberal! Want to share the cat food? > >see what i mean? > >randy > Uh....no....You don't like cat food? Article: 100689 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kashe@sonic.net Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:26:30 -0800 Message-ID: <7hf2o199hcu878id1fm4v1q3ij3bq81n01@4ax.com> References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 01:35:39 GMT, Lazy Senior wrote: >Beerbarrel wrote: >> >> So it's OK for Randy to ridicule Chuck but not the other way around? > >We dont need to ridicule, or make fun of, or call names of people we >dont agree with. Nothing wrong with disagreeing and showing someone the >error of their ways. What I have a problem with is (many people with >egos on this forum do this) trying to belittle people. > >Disagree YES - belittle, call names - NO....... Both -- YES. The bright ones can separate the two. The not so bright ones will focus on the unpleasantness to the exclusion of the topic. Article: 100690 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:39:39 GMT John Byrns wrote: > > > > Are you sure about that number, it sounds a little high? What has the > monetary cost of the war been up to this point, and how many taxpayers > does it assume? > > > Regards, > > John Byrns http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ quote: The estimated population of the United States is 297,767,295 so each citizen's share of this debt is $27,189.05. ...................................................... Do a google on deficit USA, it will SCARE you.. Lazy Senior Article: 100691 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "John, N9JG" Subject: Replacing pilot lights in Drake L-4B Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:10:11 GMT I am planning to order meter illumination pilot lights for my Drake L-4B >from Play Things Of Past http://www.oldradioparts.com/. The pilot lights are type 1850, 5V @90 ma, bayonet. I would like to know how easy/difficult it is to replace these bulbs. I am hoping that all I need to do is to remove the amplifier top cover. The instruction manual does not mention replacement of these pilot lights. Maybe they did not anticipate that the amplifier would still be in use after 30 years. John, N9JG john@gotwals.XremoveY.com (remove ".XremoveY" from above address) Article: 100692 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:32:59 -0500 On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:13:55 -0500, Chuck Harris wrote: >Lazy Senior wrote: >> John Byrns wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Are you sure about that number, it sounds a little high? What has the >>> monetary cost of the war been up to this point, and how many taxpayers >>> does it assume? >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> John Byrns >> >> >> http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ >> >> quote: >> >> The estimated population of the United States is 297,767,295 >> so each citizen's share of this debt is $27,189.05. > >Uhmmm, the war in Iraq hasn't cost $8.9 trillion... You really >are mentally rather lazy there senior. > >-Chuck Agreed! Article: 100693 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: <2vq3o1h1e6he6ofre56q88e4bfes228qtd@4ax.com> References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:47:38 -0500 On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 02:01:40 -0500, "Mark Oppat" wrote: >beerbarrel wrote... >"I think we killed more than 20000 of those bastards....hopefully we >> will get even more." > > >wow, this swerved way off...from UPS service to taxes to the war....totally >off topic, sorry, just went down this path I have to say my last... > >bastards? You have your stance and I have mine......That's the magic in freedom of opinion ehh? Article: 100695 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "John, N9JG" References: Subject: Re: Replacing pilot lights in Drake L-4B Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:34:12 GMT When my lights were workings, the light in the meters was blue. "K3HVG" wrote in message news:kdednXMf-dTvnh_enZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@adelphia.com... > That's about it..... If your amp doesn't have the blue filters, you may > want to find them, too. > Article: 100696 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: William Mutch Subject: re: BC221 as a VFO Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:59:49 -0500 Message-ID: I finally got to try using the BC-221 as a vfo on 30 meters, using a cable with an additional parallel tuned circuit in it to select only the desired second harmonic. It worked, but the drive voltage was nowhere near sufficient to drive the rig to full output without adding another stage of amplification...more of a ball of wax than I want to get into. Thanks everyone who responded with suggestions. de KC2LVQ Article: 100697 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: William Mutch Subject: WTB extals Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:59:59 -0500 Message-ID: Anyone have a cystal or two in holder(s) with FT231 pin spacing that would double or triple into the 30 meter band 10.110 to say 10.135 mhz ?? WTB. I'd also be intersted in buying one crystal in the current 80 meter novice band. The two rocks I have on 80 are on freqs used by high speed lightning slingers...too fast for my rusty CW. de KC2LVQ Article: 100698 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 19:07:34 GMT Beerbarrel wrote: >> >>Uhmmm, the war in Iraq hasn't cost $8.9 trillion... You really >>are mentally rather lazy there senior. >> >>-Chuck > > > > Agreed! This isnt the war cost, this is how much Mr Bush has cost us since he has been in power.Did you even READ the LINK? You are really pathetic but you cant change the numbers or performance of our President. Bush started out with billions of dollars surplus from Mr. Clinton. This should surprise no one, Bush's Father had us in the hole too. It took a Democrat 8 years to get things balanced and the present Prez pissed it all away. He squandered it all, giving tax cuts to the rich and oil companies and so on AND getting us into a war that we didnt need to start. Now we are 8 trillion in the hole with no end in sight. Lazy Senior Article: 100699 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Caveat Lector" References: Subject: Re: WTB extals Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:08:58 -0800 Have you tried these xtal mfg's a.. Bomar, Cal Crystals, Crystek, ILS, JAN -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "William Mutch" wrote in message news:MPG.1debe3387ec4507098984f@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu... > Anyone have a cystal or two in holder(s) with FT231 pin spacing > that would double or triple into the 30 meter band 10.110 to say 10.135 > mhz ?? WTB. > I'd also be intersted in buying one crystal in the current 80 > meter novice band. The two rocks I have on 80 are on freqs used by high > speed lightning slingers...too fast for my rusty CW. > > de KC2LVQ Article: 100700 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 19:14:51 GMT xrongor wrote: >>> >>>ah the conservatives always bring it down to this level when they have >>>nothing else to say. >>> >>>randy >>> >> >> >> >>Well said Mr. Liberal! Want to share the cat food? > > > see what i mean? > > randy > > Randy You are a breath of fresh air in this forum. Whenever Conservatives cant prove you wrong they call you a Liberal or try to ridicule you. Aint nothing wrong with being a Liberal, nor is there anything wrong with being a Conservative. They all make mistakes but Bush conservatives NEVER admit they are wrong or make mistakes. that is why they are so dangerous... Lazy Senior Article: 100701 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:44:12 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <1132601420.815018.11390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: toxcrusadr wrote: > > I wonder what the vote would have been if it had not been in Congress > but by a vote of the people, worded thus, "Should the government charge > you $666 for each man, woman and child in your household, to attack a > country that has never attacked the United States, with whom we are not > currently at war? And what if they had worded thus "Would you be willing to pay $666 so that we can begin breaking up the radical muslim gang of thugs that just killed 4000 innocent Americans and threaten to kill more?" There are people who spend more than $666 year at Starbucks. -BM Article: 100702 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "John, N9JG" References: <1132600502.683952.285250@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Replacing pilot lights in Drake L-4B Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:31:37 GMT The name of your domain is certainly appropriate. wrote in message news:1132600502.683952.285250@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >I think I have heard it all now....for sure and certain.. This is the a > clear picture.. definitely an important message here for hams of all > ages.EVERYBODY. make a note of this discussion and remember it...Haney > Article: 100703 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Subject: Re: WTB extals Date: 21 Nov 2005 15:31:44 -0500 Message-ID: References: William Mutch wrote: > Anyone have a cystal or two in holder(s) with FT231 pin spacing >that would double or triple into the 30 meter band 10.110 to say 10.135 >mhz ?? WTB. 10 MHz crystals in smaller packages are a couple bucks off the shelf, and it doesn't take a lot of time to slew the things up to higher frequencies with a little jeweler's rouge. You can get brand new ones cut to frequency for twenty bucks or so from ICM, but that would be cheating. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Article: 100704 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "YT" References: <1132600502.683952.285250@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Replacing pilot lights in Drake L-4B Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:58:08 GMT I got to agree, if you run a 40 year old vacuum tube amplifier and have to ask for help on changing a damn pilot lamp..... Do you even know how to properly run the amp? Can you identify when your amp is splatteing or non linear. Heh, maybe its not even the pilot lamp but the fuse !!! wrote in message news:1132600502.683952.285250@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >I think I have heard it all now....for sure and certain.. This is the a > clear picture.. definitely an important message here for hams of all > ages.EVERYBODY. make a note of this discussion and remember it...Haney > Article: 100705 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "John, N9JG" References: <75qdnalPF4aHrh_enZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@adelphia.com> Subject: Re: Replacing pilot lights in Drake L-4B Message-ID: <3Hqgf.349361$084.150790@attbi_s22> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:08:15 GMT Thanks for your helpful suggestions. Yes, it looks like the bulbs are socketed (aimed towards the front panel), but it wasn't clear to me if I had to remove the front panel in order to get maneuvering room. As others have suggested, it should be a "lark" to replace the bulbs unless the glass breaks off with the bayonet base still in the socket. Then it might be time for some strong language. "Roger D Johnson" wrote in message news:75qdnalPF4aHrh_enZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@adelphia.com... > I replaced the ones in my L-7 with common type 47's. The 6.3 volt > bulbs give adequate illumination and should last forever on 5 volts. > The 5 volt bulbs are kind of rare. > On the L-7 all you have to do is remove the cover. The bulbs are in > sockets right at the meters. I presune the L-4 is the same. > > 73, Roger > Article: 100706 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Mike Andrews" Subject: Re: Replacing pilot lights in Drake L-4B Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <75qdnalPF4aHrh_enZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@adelphia.com> <3Hqgf.349361$084.150790@attbi_s22> John, N9JG wrote: > Thanks for your helpful suggestions. Yes, it looks like the bulbs are > socketed (aimed towards the front panel), but it wasn't clear to me if I had > to remove the front panel in order to get maneuvering room. As others have > suggested, it should be a "lark" to replace the bulbs unless the glass > breaks off with the bayonet base still in the socket. Then it might be time > for some strong language. In the (unlikely?) event that the glass breaks, you can use an appropriately-sized bit of rubber (the eraser on the end of a pencil, or one of the slip-over erasers) as a tool for removal: just push it down into the metal base as far as you can, then twist. I've done this more than a few times with old pilot lamps. -- Don't join the book burners. Don't think you are going to conceal faults by concealing evidence that they ever existed. - Dwight D. Eisenhower Article: 100707 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "John, N9JG" References: <75qdnalPF4aHrh_enZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@adelphia.com> <3Hqgf.349361$084.150790@attbi_s22> Subject: Re: Replacing pilot lights in Drake L-4B Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:48:02 GMT This sounds like a very useful technique, and one worth keeping in mind. Thanks for pointing it out. -- John, N9JG "Mike Andrews" wrote in message news:dltf24$7f8$2@puck.litech.org... > John, N9JG wrote: >> Thanks for your helpful suggestions. Yes, it looks like the bulbs are >> socketed (aimed towards the front panel), but it wasn't clear to me if I >> had >> to remove the front panel in order to get maneuvering room. As others >> have >> suggested, it should be a "lark" to replace the bulbs unless the glass >> breaks off with the bayonet base still in the socket. Then it might be >> time >> for some strong language. > > In the (unlikely?) event that the glass breaks, you can use an > appropriately-sized bit of rubber (the eraser on the end of a pencil, > or one of the slip-over erasers) as a tool for removal: just push it > down into the metal base as far as you can, then twist. I've done this > more than a few times with old pilot lamps. > Article: 100708 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Vinnie S. Subject: Galaxy 2000B linear amp from the 1960'a on ebay Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:59:08 -0500 Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5832522729 Does anyone know anything about these? I can't seem to turn much up on Google about these. I am not sure I was going to bid on it, since it's already at $280 with 5 days left. Vinnie S. Article: 100709 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Galaxy 2000B linear amp from the 1960'a on ebay Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:01:12 -0500 "Vinnie S." wrote in message news:sng4o1h8maoo34kdlc7o4avdfv3tiih4bq@4ax.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5832522729 > > Does anyone know anything about these? I can't seem to turn much up on Google > about these. I am not sure I was going to bid on it, since it's already at $280 > with 5 days left. > > Vinnie S. Vinnie What would ten 6LB6's cost when this unit needs to be retubed? Something to consider! Pete Article: 100710 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: BC221 as a VFO Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:03:41 -0500 "William Mutch" wrote in message news:MPG.1debe33173d4320198984e@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu... > I finally got to try using the BC-221 as a vfo on 30 meters, using > a cable with an additional parallel tuned circuit in it to select only > the desired second harmonic. It worked, but the drive voltage was > nowhere near sufficient to drive the rig to full output without adding > another stage of amplification...more of a ball of wax than I want to > get into. > Thanks everyone who responded with suggestions. > > de KC2LVQ Is the driver in the rig designed to work as a frequency multiplier? I'm not convinced that the output from the VFO has to be free of harmonics. That's the job of the driver plate (or PA grid) tuning, and the output pi-net to take care off. Pete Article: 100711 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <1132601420.815018.11390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <1Crgf.177$ZX3.31@trnddc06> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 22:11:09 GMT Bill wrote: > > > > And what if they had worded thus "Would you be willing to pay $666 so > that we can begin breaking up the radical muslim gang of thugs that just > killed 4000 innocent Americans and threaten to kill more?" > > -BM Dont try to re-write history, the Iraq War had nothing to do with 9-11 Lazy Senior Article: 100712 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <1132601420.815018.11390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 22:29:44 GMT toxcrusadr wrote: > > I wonder what the vote would have been if it had not been in Congress > but by a vote of the people, worded thus, "Should the government charge > you $666 for each man, woman and child in your household, to attack a > country that has never attacked the United States, with whom we are not > currently at war? BTW this is in addition to the current war in > Afganistan." > > It would have been 299 million against. > > Tox > Add to that: In addition to the $$ cost, your son, grandson, husband, brother may die....... Lazy Senior Article: 100713 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Vinnie S. Subject: Re: Galaxy 2000B linear amp from the 1960'a on ebay Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:34:35 -0500 Message-ID: <9oi4o1h90f5sqqcenehk67mviu9u94pm80@4ax.com> References: On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:01:12 -0500, " Uncle Peter" wrote: > >"Vinnie S." wrote in message >news:sng4o1h8maoo34kdlc7o4avdfv3tiih4bq@4ax.com... >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5832522729 >> >> Does anyone know anything about these? I can't seem to turn much up on >Google >> about these. I am not sure I was going to bid on it, since it's already at >$280 >> with 5 days left. >> >> Vinnie S. > >Vinnie > >What would ten 6LB6's cost when this unit needs to be retubed? > >Something to consider! I just wanted to know a little history about it. He is selling it with a second set of tubes. But I am glad you told me anyway. Seems to have gotten alot of lookups and is on its way to being out of my price range. Vinnie S. Article: 100714 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 19:56:34 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <1132601420.815018.11390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1Crgf.177$ZX3.31@trnddc06> Message-ID: Lazy Senior wrote: > Bill wrote: > >> >> >> >> And what if they had worded thus "Would you be willing to pay $666 so >> that we can begin breaking up the radical muslim gang of thugs that >> just killed 4000 innocent Americans and threaten to kill more?" >> > >> -BM > > > Dont try to re-write history, the Iraq War had nothing to do with 9-11 Then you explain to me why the US went into Iraq? To steal the oil from them? Cuz Saddam threatened to kill Dubya's daddy? To build that pipeline across the country to the Caspian Sea? (no, wait, that was Afghanistan). Just to fill the pockets of Dubya and his cronies with cash? Think like an mature adult. Iraq has nothing directly to do with Bali I and II, Madrid bombings, London bombings, pushing Irving Klinghoffer off of a cruise ship in his wheelchair, Beirut hostage taking, chopping off Daniel Perl's head...on and on for the past 30 years. But what they DID have was WMDs and a propensity to use them against their own internal enemies and a sympathy with the nutcases waging war against the West. Its pretty clear that Saddam's Iraq had the MOST resources at the disposal of factions like the 9/11 murderers and was a good place to start. You cannot separate 9/11 from today's Iraq. The little mini-incidents that the radical muslims have perpetrated against the West pale in comparison to the 4000 lives lost right here on US soil. To not do something about it would be folly. If 9/11 had not occurred, we wouldn't be there. In that sense Iraq has much to do with 9/11. I respect the people who must make these bold decisions and the foot-soldiers obliged to carry out the task. I'm neither a politician or a military strategist - and subsequently I'm not a Monday Morning Quarterback calling the game that isn't finished yet. I'm glad this type of whining "it costs every taxpayer $xxx" didn't happen in 1944. Back then "Blame America First" wasn't very fashionable. -Bill Article: 100715 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: <6go4o1po56uig3e7cgr5mj2u4iifpb4343@4ax.com> References: <1132601420.815018.11390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 19:11:14 -0500 On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 22:29:44 GMT, Lazy Senior wrote: >toxcrusadr wrote: > >> >> I wonder what the vote would have been if it had not been in Congress >> but by a vote of the people, worded thus, "Should the government charge >> you $666 for each man, woman and child in your household, to attack a >> country that has never attacked the United States, with whom we are not >> currently at war? BTW this is in addition to the current war in >> Afganistan." >> >> It would have been 299 million against. >> >> Tox >> > >Add to that: In addition to the $$ cost, your son, grandson, husband, >brother may die....... > >Lazy Senior Yep...could happen. Hey, I though you were leaving this group? Article: 100716 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <2vq3o1h1e6he6ofre56q88e4bfes228qtd@4ax.com> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 19:11:48 -0500 I agree with you there... On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:40:20 -0500, "Mark Oppat" wrote: >I sure cherish that freedom, sir! And, I hope it spreads across the globe. >We dont always use it like we should, though. > >Mark Oppat > > >"Beerbarrel" wrote in message >news:2vq3o1h1e6he6ofre56q88e4bfes228qtd@4ax.com... >> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 02:01:40 -0500, "Mark Oppat" >> wrote: >> >> >beerbarrel wrote... >> >"I think we killed more than 20000 of those bastards....hopefully we >> >> will get even more." >> > >> > >> >wow, this swerved way off...from UPS service to taxes to the >war....totally >> >off topic, sorry, just went down this path I have to say my last... >> > >> >bastards? >> >> >> You have your stance and I have mine......That's the magic in freedom >> of opinion ehh? >> > > Article: 100717 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Walt Novinger" Subject: FS: complete electronics/restoration shop equipment Message-ID: <9jtgf.2687$q93.985133@twister.southeast.rr.com> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 00:07:33 GMT After over ten years of restoring vintage radios, I am moving on to other hobbies (SWLing, woodturning and digital photography). I have a shop-full of test equipment available, including parts and a few radios. I would like to sell the entire shop as a package to someone who would like to begin the wonderful hobby of radio restoration, or who would like to expand their existing shop. I am not looking to "get rich" on this equipment, and am prepared to be very reasonable on the price(s). If you are interested in this equipment, please drop me an email and I will send an Excel spreadsheet with the list and descriptions of the items. Thanks, Walt -- Walt Novinger Raleigh, NC USA Kenwood R5000, Ten-Tec RX-320 Article: 100718 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <1132601420.815018.11390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1Crgf.177$ZX3.31@trnddc06> Message-ID: <4eugf.8837$BC2.2330@trnddc04> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 01:10:24 GMT Bill wrote: But what they DID > have was WMDs > > -Bill Bill You been watching WAY too much Fox News Network. Iraq HAD WMD's? Where you been the last year?? Lazy Senior Article: 100719 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: 21 Nov 2005 20:10:42 -0500 Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <1132601420.815018.11390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Bill wrote: > >Then you explain to me why the US went into Iraq? To steal the oil from >them? Cuz Saddam threatened to kill Dubya's daddy? To build that >pipeline across the country to the Caspian Sea? (no, wait, that was >Afghanistan). Just to fill the pockets of Dubya and his cronies with cash? I dunno about anyone else, but I'm still waiting for the explanation as to why the US went into Iraq. Best argument that I have heard is that we needed a place in the mideast to put some pressure on Saudi Arabia. But for the most part, I haven't heard any reasonable explanation for why we went into Iraq, and I'm still waiting. >Quarterback calling the game that isn't finished yet. I'm glad this >type of whining "it costs every taxpayer $xxx" didn't happen in 1944. >Back then "Blame America First" wasn't very fashionable. Yes, but back then we had a more limited set of enemies, and we knew who they were. (Well, for the most part. It was hard to tell about Stalin.) --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Article: 100720 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <1132601420.815018.11390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6go4o1po56uig3e7cgr5mj2u4iifpb4343@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 01:14:04 GMT Beerbarrel wrote: > Yep...could happen. Hey, I though you were leaving this group? Havin too much fun. Someone needs to show you the error of your ways. Maybe I will get you to start thinking..... Lazy Senior Article: 100721 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "MIT" References: <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 01:32:33 GMT >from the facts below im sure Alzheimer's has set in.just because you read it doesnt make it true.6 lies of commission and two of omission and in only two paragraphs?someone is getting lazy. mit | | | Bush started out with billions of dollars surplus from Mr. Clinton. | This should surprise no one, Bush's Father had us in the hole too. It | took a Democrat 8 years to get things balanced and the present Prez | pissed it all away. | | He squandered it all, giving tax cuts to the rich and oil companies and | so on AND getting us into a war that we didnt need to start. Now we are | 8 trillion in the hole with no end in sight. | | | Lazy Senior Article: 100722 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <1132601420.815018.11390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6go4o1po56uig3e7cgr5mj2u4iifpb4343@4ax.com> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:33:04 -0500 On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 01:14:04 GMT, Lazy Senior wrote: >Beerbarrel wrote: > > > > Yep...could happen. Hey, I though you were leaving this group? > >Havin too much fun. Someone needs to show you the error of your ways. >Maybe I will get you to start thinking..... > >Lazy Senior haha...you are too old and lazy to help anyone! Article: 100723 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "MIT" References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <1132601420.815018.11390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 01:35:44 GMT old men,women and children dont care how much it costs when they are dead. how bout you? mit "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1132601420.815018.11390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... | Back to the math, my calculations show that a $9 trillion total | national debt with 300 million people is $30,000 for every man, woman | and child - from babies in the cradle to old people, taxpaying or not. | Family of 4, that's $120,000 owed to the nation's creditors. | | If the war costs $200 billion (pulled that out of my butt, but it's way | more than the initial $87B), that's $666 for every man, woman and | child. Nice round number huh. :-) | | I wonder what the vote would have been if it had not been in Congress | but by a vote of the people, worded thus, "Should the government charge | you $666 for each man, woman and child in your household, to attack a | country that has never attacked the United States, with whom we are not | currently at war? BTW this is in addition to the current war in | Afganistan." | | It would have been 299 million against. | | Tox | Article: 100724 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:38:06 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <1132601420.815018.11390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1Crgf.177$ZX3.31@trnddc06> <4eugf.8837$BC2.2330@trnddc04> Message-ID: <778b2$43827685$4232bdfc$2359@COQUI.NET> Lazy Senior wrote: > Bill wrote: > But what they DID > >> have was WMDs >> -Bill > > > Bill > You been watching WAY too much Fox News Network. > > Iraq HAD WMD's? Where you been the last year?? > > Lazy Senior Where is your memory? What do you think he gassed his Kurdish citizens with? Does that not count as a WMD or do you have a stricter definition? Why were UN inspectors there so many years? What about the program to DISMANTLE such manufacturing facilites after he invaded Kuwait. Why did he throw out the inspectors? Convenient for your side of the argument that you omit the implications of 4000 murdered on US soil and the need to mitigate such occurences in the future. Your 'side' is very short on alternative solutions but very long on criticism. Bad recent intelligence? You betcha. No denying that. Sold a bill of false goods by the President to start a war without any discernable reason? Lets use the same standard of proof and stop playing partisan roles. WMDs or not the underlying issues remain and thats the radical doctrine of killing anything/anybody Western. We've got plenty of proof there. Do you need proof that the Saddam regime was sympathetic to this cause and was a major point of instability in the region? We ain't gonna win this one with simple hugs and trying to be good neighbors...and we damn sure won't win it with internal bickering. Bring us a good candidate to deal with this 'quagmire' in 2008. Good night, Bill Article: 100725 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "r392" Subject: Harris RF 230 help needed Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 02:08:27 GMT I recently bought a Harris RF 230 ac I need help in the programming area the top is missing that had the instructions. Is the rf230ac designation on the Military tag AN URC 505 mean its ac 120v I need a power cord for the same and any help is appreciated. Doug Article: 100726 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "PJ" References: Subject: Re: Galaxy 2000B linear amp from the 1960'a on ebay Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 04:01:52 GMT Finicky, expensive tubes. "Vinnie S." wrote in message news:sng4o1h8maoo34kdlc7o4avdfv3tiih4bq@4ax.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5832522729 > > Does anyone know anything about these? I can't seem to turn much up on Google > about these. I am not sure I was going to bid on it, since it's already at $280 > with 5 days left. > > Vinnie S. Article: 100727 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <9jtgf.2687$q93.985133@twister.southeast.rr.com> Subject: Re: complete electronics/restoration shop equipment Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:25:47 -0600 "Walt Novinger" wrote in message news:9jtgf.2687$q93.985133@twister.southeast.rr.com... > After over ten years of restoring vintage radios, I am moving on to other > hobbies (SWLing, woodturning and digital photography). I have a shop-full of > test equipment available, including parts and a few radios. I would like to > sell the entire shop as a package to someone who would like to begin the > wonderful hobby of radio restoration, or who would like to expand their > existing shop. I am not looking to "get rich" on this equipment, and am > prepared to be very reasonable on the price(s). > > If you are interested in this equipment, please drop me an email and I will > send an Excel spreadsheet with the list and descriptions of the items. > > Thanks, > Walt > > -- > Walt Novinger > Raleigh, NC USA > Kenwood R5000, Ten-Tec RX-320 > Walt, Did you post this on rec.antiques,radio+phono? ...might be some interest there, too. Best, Nelson Article: 100728 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kashe@sonic.net Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:34:43 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1132601420.815018.11390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1Crgf.177$ZX3.31@trnddc06> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 19:56:34 -0400, Bill wrote: >Lazy Senior wrote: > >> Bill wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> And what if they had worded thus "Would you be willing to pay $666 so >>> that we can begin breaking up the radical muslim gang of thugs that >>> just killed 4000 innocent Americans and threaten to kill more?" >>> >> >>> -BM >> >> >> Dont try to re-write history, the Iraq War had nothing to do with 9-11 > >Then you explain to me why the US went into Iraq? To steal the oil from >them? Cuz Saddam threatened to kill Dubya's daddy? To build that >pipeline across the country to the Caspian Sea? (no, wait, that was >Afghanistan). Just to fill the pockets of Dubya and his cronies with cash? All of the above. > >Think like an mature adult. Iraq has nothing directly to do with Bali I >and II, Madrid bombings, London bombings, pushing Irving Klinghoffer off >of a cruise ship in his wheelchair, Beirut hostage taking, chopping off >Daniel Perl's head...on and on for the past 30 years. But what they DID >have was WMDs and a propensity Ooohhh, propensity -- that's reason for a first strike. Better hope no one gets the idea that our commander-in-thief has a "propensity" for initiating a baseless war. > to use them against their own internal >enemies and a sympathy with the nutcases waging war against the West. >Its pretty clear that Saddam's Iraq had the MOST resources at the >disposal of factions like the 9/11 murderers and was a good place to >start. > >You cannot separate 9/11 from today's Iraq. The little mini-incidents >that the radical muslims have perpetrated against the West pale in >comparison to the 4000 lives lost right here on US soil. Your asshole is working overtime to disggorge a statistic like that one. > To not do >something about it would be folly. If 9/11 had not occurred, we >wouldn't be there. In that sense Iraq has much to do with 9/11. That is the most cynical fucking piece of circular reasoning I've ever seen. In other words, we're there because we launched a baseless war with no connection to 9/11. Therefore we're there because of 9/11. So much for your thinking "like a mature adult". > >I respect the people who must make these bold decisions and the >foot-soldiers obliged to carry out the task. Oh, Jesus -- another "My country -- right or wrong, my country". > I'm neither a politician >or a military strategist ... nor much of a "mature adult" thinker. >- and subsequently I'm not a Monday Morning >Quarterback calling the game that isn't finished yet. ... and by decree of the head lunatic in charge, can never be finished. You'll never get to put that jersey on, so burn it now. > I'm glad this >type of whining "it costs every taxpayer $xxx" didn't happen in 1944. >Back then "Blame America First" wasn't very fashionable. Standard right-wing dick-waggling. The fascist righties are always willing to cut a program for the less well off based on "my tax money", but they'll willingly piss away a hundred thousand times more of taxes when it goes to the foreign adventurism of a deranged president and his war-profiteering cronies. > >-Bill Article: 100729 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kashe@sonic.net Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:40:02 -0800 Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 02:01:40 -0500, "Mark Oppat" wrote: > >Some wars are just, or at least have furthered our cause. WW2, we stopped a >madman. He rose to power because of injust WW1 sanctions against Germany, >but thats another story. Gulf war, we stopped a madman, Wrong. I always wondered why Saddam didn't send Bush One a note five years later saying, "I've still got my job. How you doin'?" > and created >another (Osama + Al Queida). > >I'm done here. Too depressing...Back to our usual on topic discussions.... > > >Mark Oppat > > >" > > Article: 100730 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kashe@sonic.net Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:40:57 -0800 Message-ID: References: <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:45:41 GMT, "MIT" wrote: >bad enough you have to hear this drivel on tv and in the papers from the liberal elite pantloads but here too? >"Peace in our time" comes to mind >mit Poor widdle you -- why don't you buy a computer with a delete key? > >"Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:ifadnaGU9M9q9BzeRVn-sg@comcast.com... >| beerbarrel wrote... >| "I think we killed more than 20000 of those bastards....hopefully we >| > will get even more." >| >| >| wow, this swerved way off...from UPS service to taxes to the war....totally >| off topic, sorry, just went down this path I have to say my last... >| >| bastards? most of the dead did nothing against us... ever. They just got >| in the way. You can be sure that their relatives want to hurt us, now! >| Why is it everyone else is an enemy until you meet them and realize they are >| human, just like us, they want to live and be prosperous. They have >| children, mothers, and fathers. A smaller group has taken up arms against >| us... and, for reasons you might agree with if you were there. >| >| Religion teaches there is absolute good and absolute evil, and thats what W >| and the other nuts that lead us into this believe. Big trouble, there. >| Well, guess what. No person, no country, no movement, just like no radio, >| is absolutely good or bad. There are very good reasons some of those Iraqis >| are against us. If you were raised there you might understand that. But >| rather than fix that, we made it worse. REmember, this war has NOTHING to >| do with Al Queida, except they like that we are wasting our time while we >| weaken ourselves and disaster recovery efforts. >| >| IF you could ask an insurgent why he's shooting, the # 1 answer is to >| protect his country from the invaiders, the "evil" USA. OK, that's not >| the smartest thought, but , thats what he believes. Hmm. If we werent >| there, the shooting would decrease. Yes, there will be some other war, now >| that we stirred the pot, but it has nothing to do with us. They gotta sort >| that out. No country is gonna be safe because of us. >| >| Hmmm. The "Coalition of the Willing? ... guess thats like putting up a >| sign that says "watch out for this sign". >| >| Not to mention the wounded, suffering slowly with no medical facilities, >| no one to help. Starving because they cant work and because we have >| destroyed what little support systems there were. Imagine that in your own >| neighborhood. Just try. War is hell, just ask any soldier. >| >| You DO understand that the Iraqi citizens never plotted to attack the USA, >| and had NO connection to Al Quieda. Too bad W , and much of the USA hawk >| populus still doesnt understand this. There was a nutcase leader. IF we >| needed to remove him, we could have done that pretty surgically, and not >| shot up and bombed the whole country. Remember, Saddam's followers >| deserted after his fall. They were ready to sign up with the new president, >| or whoever pays their salary, but we botched that up and let massive looting >| break out. >| >| When's the last time you heard W say "weapons of mass destruction"? Seems >| thats all he could say in 2002... kept at it. All the experts, and other >| national leaders, said, no. Well, Kim Jong Il sure has them.... hey, >| lets bomb him! Pre-emptive strike, right? >| >| George Sr. knew these problems. At least he had some foreign experience. >| He tried to talk W out of it, like he did Cheney and Rummy way back when. >| Dad turns out to be a genius next to W. >| >| Thats why our real enemies are succeeding. They know we will never take >| the time to understand our enemies. We like to shoot first and think later. >| That is why we will never "win" another war, including this mess. >| >| Meanwhile, the extremists everywhere else are laughing in joy at our >| failure, and why we are going to suffer further attacks for many many years >| to come. >| >| For how long Cheney and Rumsfeld were planning this, you'd think it was put >| together by some second grade art class. >| >| Think back to Vietnam.... what great positive change did we make in the >| world... while spending 50+ of our guys and how many $$$? "We defeated >| Communism!" >| Uh, I dont think so. It eventually defeated itself 20 years later. >| >| Some wars are just, or at least have furthered our cause. WW2, we stopped a >| madman. He rose to power because of injust WW1 sanctions against Germany, >| but thats another story. Gulf war, we stopped a madman, and created >| another (Osama + Al Queida). >| >| I'm done here. Too depressing...Back to our usual on topic discussions.... >| >| >| Mark Oppat >| >| >| " >| >| >| > Article: 100731 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kashe@sonic.net Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:44:10 -0800 Message-ID: References: <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:07:50 -0500, Chuck Harris wrote: > >The president proposes the budget, but it is congress that legislates >the budget. Don't make no nevermind -- the war costs are off-budget. Just another "emergency". > It doesn't matter how sane the budget presented by the >White House is, after congress gets done adding their pork to it, it >is insane. I'm still looking for that line item veto... > >> He squandered it all, giving tax cuts to the rich and oil companies and >> so on AND getting us into a war that we didnt need to start. Now we are >> 8 trillion in the hole with no end in sight. > >Uh huh. > >-Chuck Article: 100732 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Doug Subject: Re: Harris RF 230 help needed Message-ID: References: Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:57:39 GMT On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 02:08:27 GMT, "r392" wrote: >I recently bought a Harris RF 230 ac >I need help in the programming area the top is missing that had the >instructions. >Is the rf230ac designation on the Military tag AN URC 505 mean its ac 120v >I need a power cord for the same and any help is appreciated. >Doug > As I remember, All you do is to dial in the desired frequency and hit the save button on the memory pcb. There is a function switch on the memory pcb that associates the inputted frequency with one of the front panel dial positions. Another function position allows you to do direct frequency entry on the memory card regardless of the dial position. If there are two memory pcbs, you may program the unit for duplex operation, sending on one frequency and receiving on another. If you keep the rig you really should have the manual. I wouldn't even buy one of these without the manual. The manual is about the size of a large city telephone directory and would probably cost around $300 to $500 from Harris, if still available. Try to get one from another user. I sold one of these rigs at a local hamfest about 4 years ago and my manual went with it. another Doug Article: 100733 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: szekeres@pitt.edu (GregS) Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 14:24:51 GMT Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In article <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Peter Wieck" wrote: >John: > >The amount of $$ appropriated for the Gulf War to-date is ~averaging >4.8 billion-with-a-B dollars per month. Allow 24 months, that comes to: >$115,200,000,000 . > >115,200,000,000/285,000,000 = $404/person. > >As of November 5. > >This does not count the thousands of contracts for 'infrastructure' and >other items. That total brings the cost-per-capita to around >$750/person excepting those employed by Haliburton. > >I would still rather see that money spent in West Virginia for schools, >or Mississippi, or Louisiana, even Texas, Alabama or Arkansas. God help >us, even Camden, NJ. At least when my present-and-future grandchildren >are paying it back there will be a discernable benefit. > >But that would be too much like thinking from an administration >bankrupt in that skill. > >Peter Wieck >Wyncote, PA > What is really important is how much of that money spent on the war, goes directly back to the US citizens. Much of this money supplies jobs right here. greg Article: 100734 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:38:02 -0500 On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 14:24:51 GMT, szekeres@pitt.edu (GregS) wrote: >In article <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Peter Wieck" wrote: >>John: >> >>The amount of $$ appropriated for the Gulf War to-date is ~averaging >>4.8 billion-with-a-B dollars per month. Allow 24 months, that comes to: >>$115,200,000,000 . >> >>115,200,000,000/285,000,000 = $404/person. >> >>As of November 5. >> >>This does not count the thousands of contracts for 'infrastructure' and >>other items. That total brings the cost-per-capita to around >>$750/person excepting those employed by Haliburton. >> >>I would still rather see that money spent in West Virginia for schools, >>or Mississippi, or Louisiana, even Texas, Alabama or Arkansas. God help >>us, even Camden, NJ. At least when my present-and-future grandchildren >>are paying it back there will be a discernable benefit. >> >>But that would be too much like thinking from an administration >>bankrupt in that skill. >> >>Peter Wieck >>Wyncote, PA >> > >What is really important is how much of that money spent on the war, >goes directly back to the US citizens. Much of this money supplies >jobs right here. > >greg You are barking up the wrong tree Greg. Wieck could not see the truth if it were painted on his face. Article: 100735 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:33:12 -0700 Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "GregS" wrote in message news:dlv9nj$5m4$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu... > In article <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Peter > Wieck" wrote: >>John: >> >>The amount of $$ appropriated for the Gulf War to-date is ~averaging >>4.8 billion-with-a-B dollars per month. Allow 24 months, that comes to: >>$115,200,000,000 . >> >>115,200,000,000/285,000,000 = $404/person. >> >>As of November 5. >> >>This does not count the thousands of contracts for 'infrastructure' and >>other items. That total brings the cost-per-capita to around >>$750/person excepting those employed by Haliburton. >> >>I would still rather see that money spent in West Virginia for schools, >>or Mississippi, or Louisiana, even Texas, Alabama or Arkansas. God help >>us, even Camden, NJ. At least when my present-and-future grandchildren >>are paying it back there will be a discernable benefit. >> >>But that would be too much like thinking from an administration >>bankrupt in that skill. >> >>Peter Wieck >>Wyncote, PA >> > > What is really important is how much of that money spent on the war, > goes directly back to the US citizens. Much of this money supplies > jobs right here. lacking a real plan for the economy, the president chose a war. not the best reason to go to war... but hey, if it will help the economy, why dont we start two? randy Article: 100736 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Dave Heil Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <5dHgf.119$Hk1.67@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:56:49 GMT Peter Wieck wrote: > John: > > The amount of $$ appropriated for the Gulf War to-date is ~averaging > 4.8 billion-with-a-B dollars per month. Allow 24 months, that comes to: > $115,200,000,000 . > > 115,200,000,000/285,000,000 = $404/person. > > As of November 5. > > This does not count the thousands of contracts for 'infrastructure' and > other items. That total brings the cost-per-capita to around > $750/person excepting those employed by Haliburton. > > I would still rather see that money spent in West Virginia for schools... Thanks very much but we have plenty of schools. We have so many that a number are being closed. School consolidation is taking place. If you'd like to send us something, we could use prime beef or Stilton cheese. > ...or Mississippi, or Louisiana, even Texas, Alabama or Arkansas. God help > us, even Camden, NJ. At least when my present-and-future grandchildren > are paying it back there will be a discernable benefit. "discernible" I think we are seeing and will see such a benefit. I don't put a price on my freedom. > But that would be too much like thinking from an administration > bankrupt in that skill. You're an expert in foreign policy, are you? I like a lot of folks much more when you're discussing boatanchors. Dave Heil K8MN Article: 100737 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Mike" Subject: VFO's for sale....... Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:49:29 -0600 Message-ID: I have two nice looking VFO's for sale: 1. Heath HG-10 excellent in appearance, all original, not way to test it, $75.00 2. Eico 755 excellent in appearance, all original, no way to test it, $75.00 Mike at (979) 696-4400 hm or (979) 255-3544 cell. Article: 100738 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:10:32 GMT xrongor wrote: > lacking a real plan for the economy, the president chose a war. not the > best reason to go to war... > > but hey, if it will help the economy, why dont we start two? > > randy > It ok as long as YOU or your family aint doin the fighing and dying...... Lazy Senior Article: 100739 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Message-ID: <438350A3.708BECAF@sympatico.ca> From: "M. Kassay" Subject: FS: Ten Tec Filter Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:08:51 -0500 I have for sale a Ten Tec cw audio filter. This filter is the model 224 mfg by embedded research , made for the Argosy and Century 22 series. Works perfect! Price $50 US shipped. 73 Mike Article: 100740 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Edward Knobloch Subject: Re: Galaxy 2000B linear amp from the 1960'a on ebay References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:53:52 GMT Hi, This amp would +not+ be a good candidate to change to Russian high power triodes: The Galaxy power supply HV is only about 1000VDC, and the linear's output tank circuit uses a "trick" circuit to compensate for the high output capacitance of the ten paralleled sweep tubes. They used to say that the key for economical operation was to change out all ten tubes for a matched set, once the output dropped to an unacceptable level. If you just substitute one or two new tubes at a time, for the weakest ones, the new tubes beat themselves to death in a hurry, trying to carry a lot of the load. WRL used to sell matched sets of 10 tubes for around $30 when the amp was still being produced. $30 is now about the price of +one+ 6LB6 on the audiophile market. One interesting feature of the amp is the way the operating bias is made to shift more toward class A if the rf output voltage envelope departs from being linearly proportional to the input rf voltage envelope. I never owned one of these amps, so I don't know how well that worked in practice. 73, Ed Knobloch gb wrote: > Since this unit uses ten (10) - 6LB6 sweep tubes it is not a practical > amplifier -- since these TV sweep tubes are no longer produced. Might be a > nice project to convert it to a couple of Russian triodes. I would sell the > tubes for the $$ > > gb > > Article: 100741 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "John, N9JG" References: Subject: Re: Replacing pilot lights in Drake L-4B Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:00:46 GMT Thanks for the information. I have ordered 10 bulbs (@38˘ each) from Jamco, and I will soon find out how much of a pain it is to replace the bulbs. If replacement frequency is too high, I will follow another person's suggestion and replace the bulb with a 6.3V version. In your estimated life for the 1850, you listed the estimated life as "1,5000" so I'm not sure if you meant 1500 or 15000 hours. 1500 hours seems a bit short. :-) John, N9JG "gb" wrote in message news:cOydndqJt-8p6h7eRVn-iQ@comcast.com... > One stop for good minature bulb references, Chicago Miniature Lamp (now > CML) > http://www.chml.com/ > > Incandescent Lamp Applications (great Tech Notes for bulb selection & > substitutes) - Adobe Acrobat > http://www.chml.com/assets/databookpdf/Incan_Tech_Notes.pdf > > An 1850 is a T-3 1/4 Miniature Bayonet Base > ALSO, notice that this bulb only has a 1,5000 hour estimated life > MS CP will give you a "rough" brightness indication for your application > > Miniature Incandescent Lamp References (they have LEDs also) > http://www.chml.com/assets/databookpdf/2-53.pdf > > w9gb > > Article: 100742 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: spamatody@spam.spam.spam Subject: Re: VFO's for sale....... Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 16:09:26 -0600 Message-ID: <6n57o1tnqm8ojfqbjtpk1fouvqpobnvbp3@4ax.com> References: On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:49:29 -0600, "Mike" wrote: >I have two nice looking VFO's for sale: > >1. Heath HG-10 excellent in appearance, all original, not way to test it, >$75.00 no way to pay that >2. Eico 755 excellent in appearance, all original, no way to test it, $75.00 no way to pay that.... Article: 100743 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Roger Blake Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:18:09 GMT In article <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Peter Wieck wrote: > I would still rather see that money spent in West Virginia for schools, > or Mississippi, or Louisiana, even Texas, Alabama or Arkansas. > ... The Constitution is supposed to limit the federal government's powers to limited, specific areas. Nowhere does it authorize federal expenditures for schools. The feds have no legitimate role in education. -- Roger Blake (Subtract 10 for email.) Article: 100744 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:19:07 -0700 Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "John Byrns" wrote in message news:jbyrns-2211051411270001@216-80-74-167.d.enteract.com... > In article <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Peter > Wieck" wrote: > >> The damnable part of all this is that none of it was actually >> necessary. But 'we' are in it now. Clinton could not keep it in his >> pants and got impeached and survived the experience. GWB could not keep >> in in his pants, and 2000+ American Military are dead along with >> thousands of American civilians, > > "thousands of American civilians", as a result of the war in Iraq? Isn't > that shading the truth just a bit? no more than duping thousands of neglected, uneducated kids into fighting a war and justifying it on the basis that they are no longer civilians... randy Article: 100745 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Dr.Ace" References: <6yKgf.186$Hk1.99@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Galaxy 2000B linear amp from the 1960'a on ebay Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:45:15 -0500 Message-ID: "KŘHB" wrote in message news:6yKgf.186$Hk1.99@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... Snipped > Some CBer will likely get this rag and hopefully blow it up first > key-down. > > 73, de Hans, K0HB We can only hope. Ace - WH2T Article: 100746 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:10:19 -0500 On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:19:07 -0700, "xrongor" wrote: > >"John Byrns" wrote in message >news:jbyrns-2211051411270001@216-80-74-167.d.enteract.com... >> In article <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Peter >> Wieck" wrote: >> >>> The damnable part of all this is that none of it was actually >>> necessary. But 'we' are in it now. Clinton could not keep it in his >>> pants and got impeached and survived the experience. GWB could not keep >>> in in his pants, and 2000+ American Military are dead along with >>> thousands of American civilians, >> >> "thousands of American civilians", as a result of the war in Iraq? Isn't >> that shading the truth just a bit? > >no more than duping thousands of neglected, uneducated kids into fighting a >war and justifying it on the basis that they are no longer civilians... > >randy > Face it! You and Peter are just sissies! Article: 100747 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: spamatody@spam.spam.spam Subject: Re: VFO's for sale....... Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:16:14 -0600 Message-ID: References: <6n57o1tnqm8ojfqbjtpk1fouvqpobnvbp3@4ax.com> > >Gee! I missed the part in the original post that asked for opinions. I'm >sure we all think it's unfortunate you are unable to afford either of them. >Better luck on something less expensive next time. > >Don Well then, straighen up and pay attention!!! IMNSHO, posts like this should read: "untested, as-is" and the other feller was correct.....it's TOO MUCH MONEY for untested vfozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 73 Article: 100748 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Smokey" Subject: Re: Shure 444 escutcheon to give away Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:00:39 -0600 Message-ID: <11o910u7qi74f52@corp.supernews.com> References: <11o12jasu42tff6@corp.supernews.com> Thanks to all who responded. The escutcheon has been spoken for. Sorry I didn't have more. 73 Smokey "Smokey" wrote in message news:11o12jasu42tff6@corp.supernews.com... > If anyone needs to replace the brushed aluminum escutcheon on the from of > their 444 microphone (the L-angled piece with the Shure logo silkscreened on > its front), I have one and you can have it for free if you'll send me $1 > for the return postage. > > Smokey > > Article: 100749 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: <6n57o1tnqm8ojfqbjtpk1fouvqpobnvbp3@4ax.com> Subject: Re: VFO's for sale....... Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:02:02 -0500 "Don Bowey" wrote in message news:BFA9BE7E.1A7D5%dbowey@comcast.net... > On 11/23/05 6:16 AM, in article l8u8o11ertgj5dakqdaek7gh4vj7ae5i5l@4ax.com, > "spamatody@spam.spam.spam" wrote: > > > > > In my opinion, because I use my brain a bit, it does say untested, as is. > > Are you the local phraseology cop? > > I don't care what you can afford. > > Is that your stuff? You seem to care an awful lot for being an uninterested observer. Article: 100750 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132758074.248547.104190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:07:43 -0500 On 23 Nov 2005 07:01:14 -0800, "Peter Wieck" wrote: >Sissies.... > >Beer, with all due respect, if you say so. And if you mean by "sissies" >that I (we) value human life over testosterone poisoning, I would be >proud of the designation. > >Be well, have a good Thanksgiving! > >Peter Wieck >Wyncote, PA Good for you! We go to the middle east for 2 different reasons that is for damn sure. It has nothing to do with testosterone. It has everything to do with supporting your country. I think in your case you should have stayed with the people you love so dearly. We sure don't need or want you here. Article: 100751 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132758074.248547.104190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132758721.957918.323550@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:20:32 -0500 On 23 Nov 2005 07:12:02 -0800, "Peter Wieck" wrote: >Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. > >Samuel Johnson, 1775 > >Peter Wieck >Wyncote, PA I would rather be a scoundrel than a coward.......I'll tell your buddies you said hi when I get there next month. Article: 100752 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132758074.248547.104190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:26:36 GMT Beerbarrel wrote: > > > Good for you! We go to the middle east for 2 different reasons that is > for damn sure. It has nothing to do with testosterone. It has > everything to do with supporting your country. I think in your case > you should have stayed with the people you love so dearly. We sure > don't need or want you here. The 2 Reasons for Iraq War = Oil and Bush. I think we could do without Beerbarrel thinking. Lazy Senior Article: 100753 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132758074.248547.104190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:28:50 -0500 On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:26:36 GMT, Lazy Senior wrote: >Beerbarrel wrote: > >> >> >> Good for you! We go to the middle east for 2 different reasons that is >> for damn sure. It has nothing to do with testosterone. It has >> everything to do with supporting your country. I think in your case >> you should have stayed with the people you love so dearly. We sure >> don't need or want you here. > >The 2 Reasons for Iraq War = Oil and Bush. > >I think we could do without Beerbarrel thinking. > >Lazy Senior I think euthanasia would be the plan for you. Article: 100754 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132758074.248547.104190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:28:45 GMT Peter Wieck wrote: > Sissies.... > > Beer, with all due respect, if you say so. And if you mean by "sissies" > that I (we) value human life over testosterone poisoning, I would be > proud of the designation. > > Be well, have a good Thanksgiving! > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Beerbarrel certainly doesnt deserve anyones respect. Lazy Senior Article: 100755 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132758074.248547.104190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:29:58 -0500 On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:28:45 GMT, Lazy Senior wrote: >Peter Wieck wrote: >> Sissies.... >> >> Beer, with all due respect, if you say so. And if you mean by "sissies" >> that I (we) value human life over testosterone poisoning, I would be >> proud of the designation. >> >> Be well, have a good Thanksgiving! >> >> Peter Wieck >> Wyncote, PA >> > >Beerbarrel certainly doesnt deserve anyones respect. > >Lazy Senior I'm not asking for any....especially yours. Article: 100756 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132758074.248547.104190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:32:08 -0500 On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:30:48 -0800, Don Bowey wrote: >On 11/23/05 7:07 AM, in article f819o11b5fkbvoj957qao21b1t1vgjjk0o@4ax.com, >"Beerbarrel" wrote: > >> On 23 Nov 2005 07:01:14 -0800, "Peter Wieck" wrote: >> >>> Sissies.... >>> >>> Beer, with all due respect, if you say so. And if you mean by "sissies" >>> that I (we) value human life over testosterone poisoning, I would be >>> proud of the designation. >>> >>> Be well, have a good Thanksgiving! >>> >>> Peter Wieck >>> Wyncote, PA >> >> >> Good for you! We go to the middle east for 2 different reasons that is >> for damn sure. It has nothing to do with testosterone. It has >> everything to do with supporting your country. I think in your case >> you should have stayed with the people you love so dearly. We sure >> don't need or want you here. > >Who do you speak for when you say "we sure don't need....?" I bet you have >a mouse in your pocket. > >I, and possibly others, disagree with you trying to speak for us. > >Don Then you have him Don.....He is all yours! Article: 100757 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132758074.248547.104190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:39:30 GMT Don Bowey wrote: > I, and possibly others, disagree with you trying to speak for us. > > Don > With his viscious thinking, no one would admit to agreeing with Beerbarrel. I would suggest we drop this thread, we are going to change no ones mind about politics. Lets get back to discussing BA. Lazy Senior Article: 100758 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Walt Novinger" References: <9jtgf.2687$q93.985133@twister.southeast.rr.com> <1132726431.979401.185940@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FS: complete electronics/restoration shop equipment Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:47:27 GMT Jammer, Yes, it was a great experience, one I have been fortunate enough to share with a wife who was as much into the hobby as I. The idea of mamoirs has occured to me, but that's really not my thing. I have written a couple of articles for Electric Radio magazine, and was a regular contributor to this and other radio-related newsgroups. I am into SWLing now, so will be keeping up with the groups. Be sure that you, too, share your knowledge with the groups. It really is a wopnderful way to learn a lot and have fun in the process. Happy Holidays, Walt -- Walt Novinger Raleigh, NC USA Kenwood R5000, Ten-Tec RX-320 "Jammer" wrote in message news:1132726431.979401.185940@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > Walt Novinger wrote: >> After over ten years of restoring vintage radios, I am moving on to other >> hobbies.... > > I bet it was a great ten years, yes?! If I might make a wish... > ...write your memoirs.. aka a comprehensive how-to book (series?). > Grin. > All that know-how should be preserved, I think. > > ..something to do when propagation is lousy and you need a break from > those other hobbies. just a thought. > > Have a good Thanksgiving. > > Terry Bakowski > Chicago, IL > Article: 100759 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Subject: Re: Free Old Tyme Ham Radio Calendar From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:07:09 -0500 "Carl WA1KPD" wrote in news:v8ednUp9o8mMYB7eRVn- iw@comcast.com: > http://home.comcast.net/~chnord/wa1kpd.html Thanks, Carl. I emailed my ham radio buddies with your URL. Much appreciated by all. -- Larry Article: 100760 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: <6n57o1tnqm8ojfqbjtpk1fouvqpobnvbp3@4ax.com> Subject: Re: VFO's for sale....... Message-ID: <2U2hf.1532$1x.1122@fed1read06> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 13:53:13 -0500 "Don Bowey" wrote in message news:BFA9C708.1A84D% > > No, I thought it was your stuff. > Naw, I own a VF-1, remember? Article: 100761 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: <6n57o1tnqm8ojfqbjtpk1fouvqpobnvbp3@4ax.com> <2U2hf.1532$1x.1122@fed1read06> Subject: Re: VFO's for sale....... Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:22:38 -0500 "Don Bowey" wrote in message news:BFAA0F2A.1A8AA%dbowey@comcast.net... > On 11/23/05 10:53 AM, in article 2U2hf.1532$1x.1122@fed1read06, "Uncle > Peter" wrote: > > > > > "Don Bowey" wrote in message news:BFA9C708.1A84D% > > > > >> No, I thought it was your stuff. > >> > > > > Naw, I own a VF-1, remember? > > > > > > > > > > Lucky you, I just put a series L/C in the xtal socket and spot tune to the > receiver. > Be careful, if it's a tri-tet, you might get bit :) I can get you a good deal on a HG-20, though.. Not tested. Article: 100762 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: VFO's for sale....... References: <6n57o1tnqm8ojfqbjtpk1fouvqpobnvbp3@4ax.com> Message-ID: <4x4hf.42092$Nx2.6381@trnddc09> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:44:48 GMT Uncle Peter wrote: > > Is that your stuff? You seem to care an awful lot for being an uninterested > observer. > > Why is it everyone in this forum seems to have a chip on their shoulder just waiting and trying to piss some one off. Is it because hams that like BA's are cranky old has-beens, never were's who have nothing else to do? Lazy Senior Article: 100763 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: VFO's for sale....... References: <6n57o1tnqm8ojfqbjtpk1fouvqpobnvbp3@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:53:36 GMT spamatody@spam.spam.spam wrote: > > > IMNSHO, posts like this should read: > > "untested, as-is" > > > 73 You are right there. Too much Ebay mentality. Used to be it either worked or didnt. I recently bought a Viking Ranger at a hamfest. I asked if it worked. The guy said he was selling it for a friend who said it worked when he last used it many years ago. In other words as far as I was concerned it didnt work and payed accordingly. Lazy Senior Article: 100764 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Russ J." Subject: F/S SB200 AMP - 3 KW TUNER - KENWOOD HT ---- FOR SALE Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:58:27 GMT Hello All! I have the following for sale: Get em for Christmas before they go on ebay ! Make an offer ! HEATHKIT SB200 LINEAR AMPLIFIER. Very Good Condition- No dents or scratches. Loaded 400 watts carrier out into Cantenna dummy load. Has manual. Pics available and will ship CON. US. but prefer local P/U in Cleveland Area -- will drive 1/2 hr.. 3KW ANTENNA TUNER. MFJ989C with digital readout in Very good condition. Small dent in chrome of tuning knob. Has manual. Pics Available and will ship CON. US KENWOOD TH22A 2 meter HT. In excellent condition. Has leather case and 2 extra batteries. Original box and manual Ac supply etc. Pics available and will ship CON. US SPEAKER-MIKE for above . Works GREAT! Pics available and will ship CON. US Article: 100765 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "COLIN LAMB" References: <2oWdnQzi-e1kGB7eRVn-pg@rogers.com> Subject: Re: looking for block diagram of ic 22s Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:52:44 GMT BAMA has the following information: An Italian site, Marcucci, has a good collection of Icom manuals. Speaking of ICOM, you can now download manuals on most of their equipment, both past and present from their Support Page. Furthermore, a note at the bottom of the page says, "If you cannot find the intended instruction manual you require on this download page, you can make a request to the Support Center to have it uploaded." Way to go ICOM!! For much technical material on ICOM equipment, Adam Farson, VA7OJ/AB4OJ, runs a site which includes many manuals as well as links to other sources of ICOM info. This information may be more helpful than my last post. Colin K7FM Article: 100766 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132758074.248547.104190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <%B5hf.19605$7h7.650@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:54:56 -0500 On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:12:23 GMT, Lazy Senior wrote: >MIT wrote: > >> >> especially since your version of the facts have been debunked indeed yes let us move on. >> mit >> >> > >Debunk? You cant debunk opinions. > >Opinions are like assholes - Everyone has one and they all stink except >yours..... > >Lazy Senior I see you can't even follow your own suggestion. That's funny... Article: 100767 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:25:29 -0500 wrote in message Interesting concept... But, there doesn't appear to be a dearth of readily available decent boatachor gear. I'm not sure how much of a market there would be? How much would the gear cost, what would it do, etc? Sounds like a labor of love! Pete Article: 100768 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132758074.248547.104190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <%B5hf.19605$7h7.650@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> Message-ID: <7M7hf.3351$Qs2.2153@trnddc03> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 00:25:39 GMT Beerbarrel wrote: > I see you can't even follow your own suggestion. That's funny... I am just like you in this regard - I just have to have the last word. Lazy Senior Article: 100769 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1132787385.950101.273360@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Question on RFI and tube vs newer rigs Message-ID: <1P7hf.1566$1x.1264@fed1read06> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:29:13 -0500 Some of the older tube transmitters were more prone to TVI, since the manufacturers didn't bother with TVI filters since there were not many televisions around to bother! By the time you get to the gear made in the 60s (SB series, DX-60, etc.) the transmitters usually included a multisection 30 MHz lowpass filter on the output. Transmitter shielding is also important. Pete Article: 100770 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 00:30:42 GMT eternalsquire@comcast.net wrote: > > Would there be an audience? Comments? > > The Eternal Squire > I doubt you could build them cheaper than available (used)commercial equiptment. It would have to be a labor of love, I dont think you could break even. I used to build my own computers until 6 years ago when I figured out I could get a Dell or HP much cheaper than what it would cost to build.I suspect building tube radios would be the same scenario. Lazy Senior Article: 100771 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: <315ao11epj8rkvm6cbhl4ldg5d175lpk26@4ax.com> References: <1132758074.248547.104190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <%B5hf.19605$7h7.650@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> <7M7hf.3351$Qs2.2153@trnddc03> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:16:24 -0500 On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 00:25:39 GMT, Lazy Senior wrote: >Beerbarrel wrote: > >> I see you can't even follow your own suggestion. That's funny... > > >I am just like you in this regard - I just have to have the last word. > >Lazy Senior I'm not the one that suggested that we stop this thread....you are! Practice what you preach, deatbeat old timer! Article: 100772 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? Message-ID: <255ao19r2uah9ckcre9ls2op8bn9iuol38@4ax.com> References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:19:20 -0500 On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:50:19 -0500, " Uncle Peter" wrote: > >"Lazy Senior" wrote in message >news:SQ7hf.3355$Qs2.2305@trnddc03... >> eternalsquire@comcast.net wrote: >> > > >> I used to build my own computers until 6 years ago when I figured out I >> could get a Dell or HP much cheaper than what it would cost to build.I >> suspect building tube radios would be the same scenario. >> >> Lazy Senior > >Unfortunately cheap computers usually use properietary >motherboards. Being lazy carries a price beyond the tag. > > > hahaha....that's funny and it fits the poster really well. Building computers in really a misnomer. Anyone can thown a few pc cards together and flip a power switch. Maybe they should try building the cards from scratch. Article: 100773 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1132787385.950101.273360@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1P7hf.1566$1x.1264@fed1read06> Subject: Re: Question on RFI and tube vs newer rigs Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:27:32 -0500 From: "gil" Subject: Re: Question on RFI and tube vs newer rigs Date: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:07 PM "Transmitter shielding "....you mean the case being properly grounded right? Couple of nights ago I was working CW on my old HW-101 @ 50 watts and not only did my wife hear it over the phone but the person she was speaking to as well! We dont have this problem over the wireless. Thanks all for the input Gil Gil More than that, the meters were often screened, and the AC line cords had RF filters as well. This was mostly to reduce harmonic radiation from the cabinet, which could be carried "common mode" on the outside of the coaxial shield, or on the power cord. Phone interference is overload related, and has nothing to do with the quality of the transmitted signal. The phone is overly sensitive to strong RF fields, regardless of their spectral purity. As Chuck noted: some simple filters on the phone line should help the problem. Pete Article: 100774 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 02:09:46 GMT Uncle Peter wrote: > > Unfortunately cheap computers usually use properietary > motherboards. Being lazy carries a price beyond the tag. > You know as much about computers as you do BA or hamradio. My HP, the one I am typing on right now has an off the shelf non- prop Asus motherboard. A ATI Radeon graphic card etc.Built by HP and bought at Best Buy. Since I maintained computers for a living for over 30 years, I suspect I know more than the average person about them and since you are stupider than average I know a WHOLE lot more than you when it comes to computers. Anyway there isnt anything wrong with propreitary motherboards. Laptops are outselling desktops right now and they are all properietary and they work just fine. Lazy Senior Article: 100775 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <255ao19r2uah9ckcre9ls2op8bn9iuol38@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 02:11:00 GMT Beerbarrel wrote: > > hahaha....that's funny and it fits the poster really well. Building > computers in really a misnomer. Anyone can thown a few pc cards > together and flip a power switch. Maybe they should try building the > cards from scratch. Gosh I must really bug you Lazy Senior Article: 100776 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:18:28 -0500 "Lazy Senior" wrote in message news:Kh9hf.687$mJ2.149@trnddc02... > Uncle Peter wrote: > > > > > Unfortunately cheap computers usually use properietary > > motherboards. Being lazy carries a price beyond the tag. > > > > Since I maintained computers for a living for over 30 years, I suspect I > know more than the average person about them and since you are stupider > than average I know a WHOLE lot more than you when it comes to computers. > > Anyway there isnt anything wrong with propreitary motherboards. > Laptops are outselling desktops right now and they are all properietary > and they work just fine. > > Lazy Senior > > And, you're full of crap, too! Lazy, and full of crap.. A terrible way to go through life! Where did I say they "didn't work"? Learn how to read. You have no clue go play with your $389 wonder. Pete Article: 100777 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: <6n57o1tnqm8ojfqbjtpk1fouvqpobnvbp3@4ax.com> <4x4hf.42092$Nx2.6381@trnddc09> Subject: Re: VFO's for sale....... Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:19:20 -0500 "Lazy Senior" wrote in message news:4x4hf.42092$Nx2.6381@trnddc09... > Uncle Peter wrote: > > > > > Is that your stuff? You seem to care an awful lot for being an uninterested > > observer. > > > > > > Why is it everyone in this forum seems to have a chip on their shoulder > just waiting and trying to piss some one off. > > Is it because hams that like BA's are cranky old has-beens, never were's > who have nothing else to do? > > Lazy Senior We do it to piss you off. Peter Article: 100778 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: Swan 350 Loading... References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 02:22:02 GMT Chuck Harris wrote: > I have a silly question about the Swan 350 antenna > loading switch. Did they mean for you to switch it > while the rig was keyed for tuning, or were you > supposed to unkey the rig before switching it? > > I've always assumed the later, but... > > -Chuck Chuckee Silly questions deserve silly answers, no one with any sense buys a Swan. Do it while you are tuning, if it doesnt smoke you are fine. Lazy Senior Article: 100779 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 02:23:51 GMT Uncle Peter wrote: > > > And, you're full of crap, too! Lazy, and full of crap.. A terrible way to > go through life! Where did I say they "didn't work"? Learn how > to read. You have no clue go play with your $389 wonder. > > Pete > I guess I bug you too. Lazy Senior Article: 100780 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Steve" References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:32:41 -0800 Message-ID: <43852639$0$54816$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> How about offering these as kits? Maybe even offering them with or without tubes? If you're able to keep the cost low I think you have a shot. Steve wrote in message news:1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > All, > > I've occasionally seen homebrew tube transceivers on Ebay that range > from really good to too gnarly looking to seem safe. I am thinking of > creating a line of clean-looking, attractive, rugged tube equipment for > casual or missionary use with a reasonable price/output performance > that is easy to repair and adjust, based on schematics and design > principles that have gone into the public domain. > > Would there be an audience? Comments? > > The Eternal Squire > Article: 100781 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: VFO's for sale....... References: <6n57o1tnqm8ojfqbjtpk1fouvqpobnvbp3@4ax.com> <4x4hf.42092$Nx2.6381@trnddc09> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 02:33:21 GMT Uncle Peter wrote: >> >>Why is it everyone in this forum seems to have a chip on their shoulder >>just waiting and trying to piss some one off. >> >>Is it because hams that like BA's are cranky old has-beens, never were's >>who have nothing else to do? >> >>Lazy Senior > > > We do it to piss you off. > Peter LOL, you are doing a poor job you cranky old has been wantabee with nothing else to do. Lazy Senior Article: 100782 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43852639$0$54816$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Message-ID: <4F9hf.696$mJ2.4@trnddc02> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 02:34:40 GMT Steve wrote: > How about offering these as kits? Maybe even offering them > with or without tubes? If you're able to keep the cost low I > think you have a shot. > > Steve > I dunno, a company called Heathkit tried that and went belly up. Lazy senior Article: 100783 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Smokey" Subject: Trade: Want 7143 kc xtal, have 80/40s to trade Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:35:30 -0600 Message-ID: <11oa9o34tfpnn0f@corp.supernews.com> Am looking for a 7143 KC crystal, preferably FT-243 but not imperative. I will swap an 80 or 40 meter crystal of your choice (of what I have on hand, that is) and pay postage on both. Thanks and have a nice holiday fellers... Smokey telegrapher@hotmail.com Article: 100784 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: <11oa9o34tfpnn0f@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Trade: Want 7143 kc xtal, have 80/40s to trade Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:56:50 -0500 "Smokey" wrote in message news:11oa9o34tfpnn0f@corp.supernews.com... > Am looking for a 7143 KC crystal, preferably FT-243 but not imperative. I > will swap an 80 or 40 meter crystal of your choice (of what I have on hand, > that is) and pay postage on both. Thanks and have a nice holiday fellers... > > Smokey > telegrapher@hotmail.com > > Smokey I have a 7140 kHz FT-243 military xtal, if it would be close enough. Pete Article: 100785 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <255ao19r2uah9ckcre9ls2op8bn9iuol38@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 03:28:54 GMT Lazy Senior wrote: > Gosh I must really bug you > Lazy Senior I know for sure that this continuous BS is bugging ME and probably a lot of other people too. Drop it and let's go back to talking about BAs. Ron Article: 100786 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:53:26 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: eternalsquire@comcast.net wrote: > All, > > I've occasionally seen homebrew tube transceivers on Ebay that range > from really good to too gnarly looking to seem safe. I am thinking of > creating a line of clean-looking, attractive, rugged tube equipment for > casual or missionary use with a reasonable price/output performance > that is easy to repair and adjust, based on schematics and design > principles that have gone into the public domain. > > Would there be an audience? Comments? > > The Eternal Squire > I don't think there is an audience. Here's why I feel that way... Anybody that wants the hassle of a 'homebrew' tube xcvr just for giggles is well advised to just pick up a $50 HW-100 (or similar) on ebay. You get a slippy dial drive, you get to re-address old problems that were inherent in its original day, you get to fork over the sale price once again for a good set of finals and a few other tubes. I dealt with some missionaries in the 70s and the LAST thing they wanted was a tube rig. Plug-n-play, never-fail solid-state are where that market is. If you're in the Amazon backwaters of Brasil you don't want temperamental stuff. You can't just check into an internet forum like this and beg a few new tubes and they show up in the mail a week later. As for home-based hams...there's a definite thrill of using a homebrew rig but all that is lost when its somebody else's homebrew rig. I'm a proud Galaxy V owner, nice rig, cheap enough, I've got enough sweat equity into it to where I have an affinity for it. I can't imagine anyone else liking it as much as I do. -Bill Article: 100787 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: VFO's for sale....... Message-ID: References: <6n57o1tnqm8ojfqbjtpk1fouvqpobnvbp3@4ax.com> <4x4hf.42092$Nx2.6381@trnddc09> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:10:30 -0500 On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:44:48 GMT, Lazy Senior wrote: > Uncle Peter wrote: > >> >> Is that your stuff? You seem to care an awful lot for being an uninterested >> observer. >> >> > >Why is it everyone in this forum seems to have a chip on their shoulder >just waiting and trying to piss some one off. > >Is it because hams that like BA's are cranky old has-beens, never were's >who have nothing else to do? > >Lazy Senior So tell us about your boatanchors. We have you got in the shack? Article: 100788 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 00:16:40 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Question on RFI and tube vs newer rigs References: <1132787385.950101.273360@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1P7hf.1566$1x.1264@fed1read06> <1132796907.185410.270950@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <913a3$43853eac$4232bd1c$17562@COQUI.NET> gil wrote: > This is not just about the phone, I guess I used the phone as one > example, but I was most concerned whether > an all tube rig would create more RFI problems overall than a solid > state rig. > > Thanks......Gil You seem to have a classic example of the RFI issue but I don't think you can attribute it specifically to tube or solid-state technology inasmuch as you can attribute it to the tighter rf packaging of more modern rigs. Nothing about tubes per se makes them more prone to problems. That said, while RF shielding integrity of a commercial xmtr/xcvr has generally improved over the years, the RF integrity of consumer devices, and that includes telephones, has gone down the tubes (no pun intended) since Nixon went to China! A poorly shielded xmtr in the ring with a cheap offshore home electronic device is a guaranteed KO for both of them. -Bill Article: 100789 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 00:21:04 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Swan 350 Loading... References: Message-ID: Lazy Senior wrote: > > Silly questions deserve silly answers, no one with any sense buys a Swan. Ahem, Lazy, this IS the "boatanchor" forum (and not a personal political soapbox) where one could expect to ask BA questions, even about a Swan, without the insults. -Bill Article: 100790 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: VFO's for sale....... References: <6n57o1tnqm8ojfqbjtpk1fouvqpobnvbp3@4ax.com> <4x4hf.42092$Nx2.6381@trnddc09> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 04:24:38 GMT Beerbarrel wrote: > > > So tell us about your boatanchors. We have you got in the shack? Glad you asked, right now the rigs are Viking Ranger, Viking Valiant, Hammarland rx's, D-104. Lazy Senior Article: 100791 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <255ao19r2uah9ckcre9ls2op8bn9iuol38@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 04:32:19 GMT Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: > Lazy Senior wrote: > >> Gosh I must really bug you >> Lazy Senior > > > I know for sure that this continuous BS is bugging ME > and probably a lot of other people too. > > Drop it and let's go back to talking about BAs. > > Ron Beerbarrel, Uncle Pete, and Chuckee seem to have a grudge against me and wont stop. Every post I do they want to humilate me. And I never back >from a fight.... If it bugs you - - ALL email clients have filters, use them and you wont have to read this crap. I use the filters all the time for FA and FS ads and also people I dont like to read. I havent filtered the above 3 jerks - yet. Lazy Senior Article: 100792 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43852639$0$54816$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <1132806389.046102.142700@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 04:36:23 GMT eternalsquire@comcast.net wrote: > > > More thoughts? > > The Eternal Squire > One thing YOU must keep in mind - ALL HAMS ARE CHEAP - It is a gene we all have. Even rich hams I know are cheap. We go to to the local hamstore to demo equiptment (or at a hamfest) and then go home and order on the internet to save money. Lazy Senior Article: 100793 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: Swan 350 Loading... References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 04:41:58 GMT Bill wrote: > Lazy Senior wrote: > > >> >> Silly questions deserve silly answers, no one with any sense buys a Swan. > > > Ahem, Lazy, this IS the "boatanchor" forum (and not a personal political > soapbox) where one could expect to ask BA questions, even about a Swan, > without the insults. > > -Bill Really, look at some of my posted questions in the last week and the crap I have gotten from many in this group. I was simply giving Chuckee what he has been giving me the last week - a hard time. Research some of the undeserved crap I have gotten from him. Lazy Senior I didnt mean it as an insult tho,no one I know would pay money for a Swan.. Article: 100794 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: jeffreyh@Hawaii.Edu (Jeffrey Herman) Subject: Astro-net from the 60s (was: K1MAN ESSAY) Date: 24 Nov 2005 04:48:48 GMT Message-ID: "Bob Sherin, W4ASX" wrote in message > To be honest, I never felt comfortable on 75 meters, nor did I feel > that I fit in for the most part. There were groups, however, in which > I enjoyed participating, Anyone remember the Astro-Net on 3885 kc from the 1960s? It was composed of group of amateur astronomers who nightly trained their telescopes on a particular celestial object and would then have round-table comments about that object. It was fascinating to eavesdrop on that net. 73, Jeff KH6O -- Chief Petty Officer, U.S. Coast Guard Mathematics Lecturer, University of Hawaii System Article: 100795 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 01:08:21 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132807589.533812.230720@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <8603e$43854af0$4232bd0b$18632@COQUI.NET> eternalsquire@comcast.net wrote: > Oh, I LOVED the Galaxy V mark II. > > The FT-101, Galaxy, Drake, and Swan are not $100 pieces of gear on > EBay, they are more like $300 to $400 pretty consistencly. I think a > fully loaded multiband fresh boatanchor should sell quite nicely for > $199.95 it if offers compareable features. That would imply a > wholesale price of about $100.00. That would imply that parts, labor, > and other indirect costs should be somewhere between $50 to $80. I > think I can get from Russia or China a single sweep tube plus a handful > of smaller tubes for about $30. The rest would have to be chassis, > discretes, power, labor, shipping, and customs. > > Now, if I market direct through the net rather than through a retailer, > I think I could go self sustaining after a few build-sales cycles. Since I dove into this water...I'll continue my nay-saying even tho I love BAs. You say FT-101, etc...aren't $100 pieces of gear on ebay. Thats too broad and maybe your perspective is different than mine. As found Galaxy V are lucky to get $100, as are HW-100. FT-101, Kwood TS-520, Swan 350-500, Drake TR-3/4 will garner twice that in "last time I fired it up it worked" condition. I've given away two Galaxy V in as found condition this year because they couldn't be sold at any price. I'm not clear if you are suggesting building these things from scratch or taking older xcvrs and refurbing them. If you haven't walked this talk I suspect you'd find out very quickly that paying $35 for an old Galaxy and refurbing it at maybe a cost of a dozen hours of labour you might get $125 on resale on a good day when there are no other buyers that could do the same thing for their own purpose. To do an equivalent Galaxy 5 from scratch for $199 commercial resale? No way. > > If the people on this topic would be willing to be a focus group for > the fresh boat-anchor of thier dreams, I would be quite grateful. Well, you have my input. I'll never discourage rolling your own but trying to make a bizness out of it is a whole nuther can of worms. -Bill WX4A Article: 100796 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 01:19:16 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Swan 350 Loading... References: Message-ID: Lazy Senior wrote: >>> >>> Silly questions deserve silly answers, no one with any sense buys a >>> Swan. >> >> >> >> Ahem, Lazy, this IS the "boatanchor" forum (and not a personal >> political soapbox) where one could expect to ask BA questions, even >> about a Swan, without the insults. >> >> -Bill > > Really, look at some of my posted questions in the last week and the > crap I have gotten from many in this group. Look at the acrimonious posture you have adopted in this venue in the past week or two since you 'surfaced'. > > > I didnt mean it as an insult tho,no one I know would pay money for a Swan.. Ok, I'll buy the part about insults but why in the hell would a real ham come onto a boatanchor group out of the clear blue and start ragging guys about buying a Swan? Tell us which BAs you're running so that we can have as much fun ragging down your gear. Swan is an easy mark...give us something to get our teeth into. -Bill WX4A Article: 100797 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 01:21:02 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: VFO's for sale....... References: <6n57o1tnqm8ojfqbjtpk1fouvqpobnvbp3@4ax.com> <4x4hf.42092$Nx2.6381@trnddc09> Message-ID: <7058a$43854dc1$4232bd0b$17400@COQUI.NET> Lazy Senior wrote: > Beerbarrel wrote: > >> >> >> So tell us about your boatanchors. We have you got in the shack? > > > Glad you asked, right now the rigs are Viking Ranger, Viking Valiant, > Hammarland rx's, D-104. > > Lazy Senior Time to work on that spell-checker Mr. Hammarland. -ex Article: 100798 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? Date: 24 Nov 2005 05:23:23 GMT Message-ID: References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132807589.533812.230720@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8603e$43854af0$4232bd0b$18632@COQUI.NET> Bill (exray@coqui.net) writes: > You say FT-101, etc...aren't $100 pieces of gear on ebay. Thats too > broad and maybe your perspective is different than mine. As found > Galaxy V are lucky to get $100, as are HW-100. FT-101, Kwood TS-520, > Swan 350-500, Drake TR-3/4 will garner twice that in "last time I fired > it up it worked" condition. I've given away two Galaxy V in as found > condition this year because they couldn't be sold at any price. > And of course, people want the boatanchors because they are old, because they are the rig they had when they were first in the hobby or because they lusted after the rig decades ago but couldn't afford it. I suspect that is the major reason, rather than because they are tube-based. Take away that familiarity, and the interested number will also drop. People will pay more now the more expensive it was in the first place, but that may be as much because fewer bought them back then (hence fewer exist) than because they are better rigs. Michael VE2BVW Article: 100799 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 01:41:08 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132807589.533812.230720@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8603e$43854af0$4232bd0b$18632@COQUI.NET> <1132810058.837696.224600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <4de13$43855278$4232bd0b$24130@COQUI.NET> eternalsquire@comcast.net wrote: > >>To do an equivalent Galaxy 5 from scratch for $199 commercial resale? >>No way. > > > Why not? At this point you are daydreaming. Start pricing the components. You'll likely exceed $199 before you add in any labour. -Bill Article: 100800 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 01:56:02 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132807589.533812.230720@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8603e$43854af0$4232bd0b$18632@COQUI.NET> <1132810784.781728.265420@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: eternalsquire@comcast.net wrote: > > But what if I kept the familiarity of operation rather than the > familiarity of brand name? Would it drop drastically?\ Doesn't work that way anymore. In the old days the manufacturer might have included a card in the manual that you could stick on a 5 cent stamp and ask why the rig didn't work. People don't accept that level of service these days. I'm not trying to be condescening...YOU buy a Gal V on ebay or swap meet and try to get it playing to satisfaction for a single year of regular operation...you'll gain a different perspective. I don't think you can 'homebrew' around these issues. Its always 'something'. -Bill Article: 100801 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:47:42 -0800 Message-ID: References: <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Beerbarrel wrote: sissies! It is popular fodder for Republicans to portray Democrats (or anyone else who rubs their fur the wrong way) as a bunch of wimps. Well, let's take a brief look at history over the last century....... World War I-Prosecuted by the administration of Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat. The first truly mechanized war, and the first widespread use of chemical weapons in war. The USA and its allies were ultimately victorious, but things soon turned ugly. Wilson's failed attempts to secure a lasting postwar peace led to a complete destruction of his health. Widespread postwar unemployment and a health care system strained to its limits by a pandemic spread by returning troops made victory bittersweet. World War II-Prosecuted by the administration of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, a Democrat. The most complete military victory in American history led to the emergence of the USA as a superpower, and the pent-up demand for long-rationed consumer goods led to a booming economy as well. But victory came at a heavy price....A quater of a million US lives lost, and a postwar world enormously complicated by the development and deployment of atomic weapons. Korean Conflict-Prosecuted by the administration of Harry S. Truman, a Democrat. Although some of the same brilliant strategists who engineered the victory in WWII were involved in this conflict (including Douglas MacArthur for a time), The best the US and its allies were able to accomplish in two years of fighting was a draw....Not good for a military action that claimed at least 32,000 American lives. Vietnam Conflict-Prosecuted by the administration of Lyndon B. Johnson, a Democrat. This war became so unpopular that Johnson was forced to give up his bid to serve the longest period of any post WWII president. By 1968, the nation was the most divided it had been since the Civil War. Richard Nixon, Johnson's White House Descendant, fared little better with the war effort and finally called it quits in 1973 after 55,000 American lives had been lost. It should be noted that many high-ranking officials of the current Bush administration came of age during the Vietnam involvement. Most of them, including the President himself, received student deferments and/or National Guard appointments and did not play a combat role in this conflict. Desert Storm-Prosecuted by the administration of George H.W. Bush, a Republican. Mission accomplished.....light casualties and total victory over the enemy in a popular and patriotic war. Sounds like a home run, right? That's what the Republicans thought, too....Until voters sent Bush packing in favor of Republican arch-enemy Bill Clinton, making Bush the first single-term Republican president since Herbert Hoover. It can be seen that the outcome and aftermath of these conflicts is definitely a mixed bag, and that most of them were prosecuted by Democratic administrations. Does the current Democratic skittishness about the Iraq war mean that they are just sissies and wimps-or could it be that it is because the Democrats have learned some awful truths about the social and political costs of waging modern warfare that the Republicans have yet to learn? -Scott - Article: 100802 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 03:05:23 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132807589.533812.230720@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8603e$43854af0$4232bd0b$18632@COQUI.NET> <1132810058.837696.224600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4de13$43855278$4232bd0b$24130@COQUI.NET> <1132813957.155253.272830@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: eternalsquire@comcast.net wrote: > $140 > Labor (20 hours at $1/hour in an LDC) $ 20 > --------- > $160 > Murphy Factor (20%) $ 32 > ---------- > COGS w/labor $192 Where's the chassis, knobs, tuning caps, IF cans, tube sockets, xtal filters, cabinet, dial, power xfmr, etc? Any radio homebrewer will tell you that where the cost is. Tubes are incidental costs. Bzzt, if you can provide labour for a $1 per hour and understimate the Murphy factor then you have a chance of breaking even...well no, not really. Using your figure of 20 hours I calculate that you'll clear an income of $40 per week on 2 rigs, $60 if you work nites, if you do it all yourself. If I could build a Galaxy 5 equivalent in 20 hours...never mind... Okay. Paying shipping for one single returned rig in this scenario will have you WISHING you hadn't eaten last week's can of cat food for dinner. Doesn't wash. You couldn't do this for less than $500 per rig (sans labour and profit)....and thats why there isn't the market that you imagine. -Bill Article: 100803 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 03:21:48 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <1a141$43856a10$4232bd0b$26695@COQUI.NET> Scott W. Harvey wrote: > Beerbarrel wrote: > sissies! > > It is popular fodder for Republicans to portray Democrats (or anyone > else who rubs their fur the wrong way) as a bunch of wimps. > > Well, let's take a brief look at history over the last century....... No, lets don't. The Dem/Repub debate weirdnesses have taken on a totally new character in recent years. 'Pubs want to blow the enemies off the face of the earth come hell or high water and scoot it under legal and public scrutiny while Dems....well, Dems haven't offered anything except a whiney campaign about how the Pubs are doing it all wrong. I'd rather be in a trench with a 'pub when the bullets are flying. I wonder if those folks scurrying out of the WTC would have been prone to wave a partisan flag before they died? Party politics didn't result in their death. Nutters from another part of the planet caused their demise. I say deal with the nutters rather than each other. -Bill Article: 100804 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? Date: 24 Nov 2005 07:37:23 GMT Message-ID: References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132810784.781728.265420@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> (eternalsquire@comcast.net) writes: >>And of course, people want the boatanchors because they are old > Collectors rather than operators, right? > >>they are the rig they had when they were first in the hobby > Yes, but also because they found later, purportedly more modern > equipment, > to be harder to operate or repair, or easier to break, with replacement > parts > and labor costing more than the rig itself? > >>they lusted after the rig decades ago but couldn't afford it. > And still can't, in the case of Collins for example. > >>I suspect that is the major reason, rather than because they are tube-based. > Really? I think it takes a different mentality to operate a tube rig > than a semiconductor or digital rig. I really think the casual tube > rigs were easier for children and adolescents to operate on HF. I had > the worst time trying to understand an ICOM during my 20's, for > example. > >> Take away that familiarity, and the interested number will also drop. > But what if I kept the familiarity of operation rather than the > familiarity of brand name? Would it drop drastically? > Thirty to forty years ago, hams abandoned those old boatanchors. They wanted the solid state, they wanted the features. The rigs could barely be given away. Circa 1972 a lot of boatanchor equipment went through my hands, because people were giving it away, or they would sell at the radio club auction for five or ten dollars. I let it go just as easily, because I could trade it for something more interesting or just to sample what were new things to me. It's only in recent years that people became really interested in that old gear. Nostalgia. And the demand raises the prices of those once useless rigs. If simplicity is the issue as you think, then through the decades there would always be basic rigs being manufactured, because there'd be demand. If people wanted basic, they'd not be waiting decades for it. And of course, basic does not have to mean tubes. The bells and whistles were added because ICs and the like made it easier to add them, but there was no need to actually add them. There could have been basic solid state rigs, and of course Ten Tec did offer them, as did some of the other manufacturers (though Ten Tec lasted longer than the rest). If you think there's a market for a bare tube rig because of ease of repair, then it's just as easy to use discrete transistors (or discretes with some common ICs) to build a basic solid state rig that is just as easy to repair as that old HW-100. The only difference is that with a solid state rig, there's no tubes that can easily be pulled out to take to the drugstore to test in the tester, which does't matter because the tube tester isn't there anymore, and neither does the drugstore sell the common tubes that was the purpose of the tester being there in the first place. I can't say I'd spend the money, but I want a Clegg Interceptor >from the early sixties. There is nothing about that receiver that is better than a more recent and decent receiver. It lacks features, and of course suffers from a relatively high noise figure that came with the tubes. I suspect its selectivity is broad compared to more recent receivers. I don't want it for what it can do, I want it because I remember reading about it, a decade after it was being sold, and simply thinking it was a neat receiver. A copy of the receiver wouldn't be the same, and is pretty inconceivable given that there will be little demand. I am conveying what I think about boatanchors, which may be wrong. But I suspect you are trying to judge a market for such a rig based on your own desires. If you think there is a market, you need to find those people who would actually buy it, who actually do share your thinking on the issue, to prove that there would be a market for such a project. I still think that most people who pursue boatanchors are doing it for nostalgia. A case can even be made that they long for simpler days. But that doesn't mean that they want to give up bells and whistles and modern designs on a permanent basis. I doubt newcomers to the hobby are going off to buy that Drake 2B, they'd pursue it later as another facet of the hobby if they do so at all (though of course there was a time when they might have started with it, because it was seen as a "novice" receiver or because it was available used for cheap). I think most who go after boatanchors have more recent rigs, and they use the old rigs in tandem, for variety. Michael VE2BVW Article: 100805 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 07:55:07 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1a141$43856a10$4232bd0b$26695@COQUI.NET> In <1a141$43856a10$4232bd0b$26695@COQUI.NET> Bill writes: >No, lets don't. The Dem/Repub debate weirdnesses have taken on a >totally new character in recent years. 'Pubs want to blow the enemies >off the face of the earth come hell or high water and scoot it under >legal and public scrutiny while Dems....well, Dems haven't offered >anything except a whiney campaign about how the Pubs are doing it all wrong. >I'd rather be in a trench with a 'pub when the bullets are flying. By and large I stay out of politics. Hell, I don't even live in America -- I live in New York City. But this "What have they offered?" always bugs me. "Offering" in this sense means a sound bite or slogan that can be reduced to a media headline. Which is never the whole truth and nothing but the truth. C'mon, Bill! I know you don't really believe any viable solution to the problems of the modern world can be reduced to 500 words or less. Any offered plan in this sense is simply playing to mass sentiment, and bereft of the details needed to make it work. Now let's go get 'em! You know, THEM!!! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 100806 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Registered User Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 02:45:29 -0500 Message-ID: <09rao1dv42orv9kurlj9pltnda8i5usi61@4ax.com> References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132807589.533812.230720@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8603e$43854af0$4232bd0b$18632@COQUI.NET> <1132810058.837696.224600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4de13$43855278$4232bd0b$24130@COQUI.NET> <1132813957.155253.272830@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 23 Nov 2005 22:32:37 -0800, eternalsquire@comcast.net wrote: >Maybe not a Galaxy 5 itself, you could be right. Besides, it was a >hybrid rig, not an all- tube rig anyway. > >But, what about this lineup for receiver: > >1) 3 sets of switchable preselector filter with ganged variable >capacitor with a single dual triode amp, half of which are placed >between each filter. >2) Single dual triode as cascode IF converter, rather than a pentagrid >converter which are hardly made anymore. >3) Single dual triode as differential VFO, glass equivalent of recent >QEX circuit, with oscillator variable capacitor ganged to the >preselector capacitor as part of same set. >4) Single dual triode as pre and post amps to lattice crystal IF >filter. >5) Single dual triode as cascode baseband converter. >6) Single dual triode as differential BFO, similar design to VFO. >7) Push-pull audio power amp... reuse this in transmitter. > >Transmitter lineup: > >1) Single sweep tube operated class E for CW, modified to class H with >aid of receiver's push pull power amp. >2) Share the preselector for use in postfiltering of the power amp. >3) Use the same differential VFO as the input to the class E amp. > >This isn't really SSB: it is more quick and dirty DSB/CW transmitter >with SSB receiver. (If anyone can modify a class E amp for SSB service >I would love to hear about it). > >So, this lineup uses a single sweep tube, 6 dual trodes, and a pair of >6L6 equivalents. > >Shuguang 807 as sweep tube: $16 retail >Shuguang 6SN7 (VFO) $11 retail >Shuguang 6SN7 (BFO) $11 retail >2 Shuguang 6L6 (Amp/Mod) $25 retail >4 CH-12AX7A $48 retail > ----------------- > $111 retail ==> >$55 wholesale if I can establish a dealer relationship with supplier. > >Tubes: (presumed wholeale) $55 >Resistors (NOS wholesale): $10 >Caps (NOS wholesale): $10 >Power transformer: $5 sheet metal stack >made in LDC >4-gang variable $25 (Soviet make >from EBAY) >Chassis: $20 sheet metal >Planetary gear drive: $15 (cast iron gears >from LDC) >Crystals (NOS wholesale) $5 >Rotary Band Switch (NOS EBAY) $10 > --------- > $140 >Labor (20 hours at $1/hour in an LDC) $ 20 > --------- > $160 >Murphy Factor (20%) $ 32 > ---------- >COGS w/labor $192 > >====================== > >OK, you are likely right that the wholesale cost is high. But I only >worked this out in 20 minutes using recent surfing, reading, and other >communication. Perhaps with further refinement I can get the cost >down. I added a murphy factor for amortized taxes, freight, and >customs. > >BUT: I think I made it with $7 to spare, including labor, so long as I >do not rely on the US for a lot of things. > >Maybe $250 would be a more realistic retail price... Not much profit >margin, though, but not much needed for mail order sales if I am only >intending to supplement income rather than support myself. > >Thoughts? > What sort of volume will be needed to get the figures mentioned above? At those numbers a run of a thousand kits will cost $192,000, probably all up front. In any case your margins will be quite thin and your hourly rate will be thin as well. 73 de n4jvp Fritz Article: 100807 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 03:39:42 -0500 On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:47:42 -0800, "Scott W. Harvey" wrote: >Beerbarrel wrote: >sissies! > >It is popular fodder for Republicans to portray Democrats (or anyone >else who rubs their fur the wrong way) as a bunch of wimps. > I'm not going to read that gibberish. I was pointing the coward comment at Peter and xranger. Look back at all the posts. This was not a political thread until they started posting. If they want to start OT political rants then they need to be prepared for comments. It is as simple as that. I still say....let's go in with guns blazing and finish the job. Article: 100808 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 03:43:49 -0500 On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 03:18:01 -0500, "Phil B" wrote: >> Well said Mr. Liberal! Want to share the cat food? > >I (and at least half the population of the US) am sick and tired and >extremely offended by the right-wing, neo-conservative, propaganda slant >that equates the word "liberal" with various *expletive deleted* words. Fact >is, most of us are moderates. Extreme left and extreme right orientation is >much smaller. Anyone with at least an IQ of 100 will look at both sides and >draw conclusions from both. I did...I concluded that liberals suck! >You neo-conservative bozos are going to pay >dearly in the next big election. I'm not going to pay anything. Unlike sissy liberals, I'm prepared to support the next president whomever that may be. >I classify my political views as "extremely >moderate". Come on! You can say liberal can't you? >I have voted for republicans and democrats based on their stance. >Lately I tend to vote for democrats as a statement against the whacko neo >republicans who have gained favor (for whatever unknown reason) in the last >couple of years. Anyone conservatively oriented should wake up and return to >real conservative political values and reject the "neo" crap and the >"evangelical Christian" crap. Otherwise, you are going down! > >Phil B You never got over losing did you? > > >"Beerbarrel" wrote in message >news:cgc2o15kmhjsvsn7ul1s7ucstbedepi31h@4ax.com... >> On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:19:53 -0700, "xrongor" >> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Beerbarrel" wrote in message >>>news:ci52o191a1i8lkts4jurqe0cde0ft02p5a@4ax.com... >>>> On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:59:50 -0500, " Uncle Peter" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Lazy Senior" wrote in message >>>>>news:J9Nff.1009$792.780@trnddc08... >>>>>> > >>>>>> Carefull, Bush supporters are a bit testy these days...... >>>>>> >>>>>> Lazy Senior >>>>> >>>>>Better watch it. They are talking about cutting back on >>>>>the food stamp program. It might be back to catfood >>>>>for you. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Canned at that! >>> >>>ah the conservatives always bring it down to this level when they have >>>nothing else to say. >>> >>>randy >>> >> >> >> >> Well said Mr. Liberal! Want to share the cat food? > Article: 100809 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 05:06:42 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1a141$43856a10$4232bd0b$26695@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <79f6b$438582a7$4232bd0b$30852@COQUI.NET> Tim Mullen wrote: > > By and large I stay out of politics. Hell, I don't even live > in America -- I live in New York City. But this "What have they > offered?" always bugs me. > > "Offering" in this sense means a sound bite or slogan that > can be reduced to a media headline. Which is never the whole > truth and nothing but the truth. C'mon, Bill! I know you don't > really believe any viable solution to the problems of the modern > world can be reduced to 500 words or less. Any offered plan in > this sense is simply playing to mass sentiment, and bereft of > the details needed to make it work. > > Now let's go get 'em! You know, THEM!!! I'll take 250 words of anybody's mass sentiment pitch if they don't include worn out homilies that only mention bashing 'the Bush administration' and 'quagmire' as THE platform. I don't expect any mortal to have the answers but I'd sure like to see someone who pretends to have a better option. No one does...ummm, maybe because they know better. What if a major Dem were to surface and say "Lets pull out tomorrow, lock, stock and barrel. Let those bastards go thru civil war until they get their shit together". Now wouldn't that ring as loud a Conservative Bell as a major RePub saying "kill them all and let Allah sort 'em out" ? Seems to be the same thing to me. Waxing political, I happen to think the answer is dividing up the hellhole like was done in the Balkans because these factions just aren't gonna agree on anything as a whole. That doesn't prevent the nutty voluntary martyrs with a belt of explosives from doing their deeds - but at least it provides a mechanism for the US to get the heck out of there...which is now becoming more of a focus. Maybe we are getting close. This summit in Cairo where the guys asked for a timetable for US withdrawal was a good sign. If the 'official' Iraqi gubmnit (FWIW) were to ask this we should assign another 100,000 troops to go over there and help the troops pack their bags and be out of there tomorrow. I think the Iraqi authorities are much more credible in that regard and see the extended US occupation as a problem rather than a solution. Zeroing back to the point. Bush ain't gonna back down. He can't politically. Its up to you Dems to find some leadership to make this happen. So strap on a pair of balls and kwitcher-bitching and quit forking up uniquely Northeastern woosie french-fag-type candidates like Kerry and that high-school cheerleader guy from Vermont. Bush's satifaction rating is in the 30% range and I don't see any Dem capitalizing on that. Do you guys need a book or something? -ex Article: 100810 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 05:30:32 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132807589.533812.230720@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8603e$43854af0$4232bd0b$18632@COQUI.NET> <1132810058.837696.224600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4de13$43855278$4232bd0b$24130@COQUI.NET> <1132813957.155253.272830@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132819370.313517.61930@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <1e7fb$4385883d$4232bd0b$31761@COQUI.NET> eternalsquire@comcast.net wrote: >>Where's the chassis > > > $20 of Korean sheet metal shaped and drilled by a firm in Africa, see > recent post You've never done business with Africa and seen the quality of work and the production delays when the "mail isn't working right". > > >>knobs > > > Digikey > > >>tuning caps > > > 4-gang soviet surplus from EBay, see recent post > > >>IF cans > > > toroids > > >>Tube sockets > > > PC mount sockets, 50 cents each. > > >>Xtal filter > > > $1 each, $5 total, see recent post Ask for 400 of all of the above and see how quick those 'surplus' sources go dark. > > > >>Using your figure of 20 hours I calculate that you'll clear an >>income of $40 per week on 2 rigs, $60 if you work nites, if you do it >>all yourself. > > > No, I'll be using Mexican labor for final assembly Not for a buck an hour. Figure 4/hr for Mexican assembly labour but you'll wind up doing this type of job on unit pricing. Add on about 15-30/hr on the stateside end to QC and align the works. > > > > What I have to find out is determine how much someone is willing > to buy a glass rig for that delivers similar functionality as a 60's > rig, > and then determine how many people would buy for that price. At > that point, I have to work backwards to see if I can make parts, > labor, intermediate freight, and customs fees work inside the > interpolated wholesale figure. > > So let me ask you... if you had the ability to buy a rig, in glass, > capable of 4 band operation where you could manually tune > and dip the amplifier, that gave you an operating range of 2000 > miles on a reference dipole, AND it was built new, HOW MUCH > would you pay for that? As a ham, anybody who tried to sell me with a pitch that suggested that I could talk 2000 miles anytime I wanted to would be met with a red flag in front of my checkbook. As for pushing the product onto other venues like missionaries...maybe. There's probably a couple dozen brand names that have gone down that same pike in the past 20 years and they don't seem to have survived. Ok, enough of the nay-saying. Suffice it to say you have no clue about the costs of production or the market. You're infatuated with making a tube xcvr for the masses on principle. That, in itself isn't a bad thing. The results found along your route can ultimately be more tangible than my opinions and a great resource for the next guy. I might be interested in a 'Beta' rig for $199, post back when you get there. -Bill Article: 100811 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 05:42:54 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <47741$43858b23$4232bd0b$2927@COQUI.NET> Phil B wrote: > The democrats used to be "hawks". Now the neo-cons are the hawks. What a > change! Regardless, the outcome of the current war is very apparent. > Traditional conservative political values have been hijacked by Bush II and > his cronies. I am looking forward to the coming major elections. I think a > return to bi-partisan, middle-of-the road, more sensible, politics will > appeal to voters. That is, if the widely spread "neo" propaganda doesn't > brainwash the majority. I prefer to think optimistically that it won't. > > Phil B > How many Dem-negative-buzzwords can I pick out of that post? neo-cons cronies brainwash I agree with your post but the parrot mentality is what keeps us from accord. Whats a "neo-con"? Did this exist 10 years ago? No. How can one make a cogent argument when the terminology suggests that the writer has been brought up with accusatory spoon-fed terminology from one side (or the other) as a means of making a point? What ever happened to individual thought that wasn't influenced by campaign designer?. Article: 100812 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Deninson G. Barreira" Subject: Kiwa Magic Tuning Eye wanted Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 07:28:08 -0500 Kiwa Magic Tuning Eye wanted (made circa 1996). If you have one available and are interested in selling, I would like to buy it. Regards. Dennis Article: 100813 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Walt Novinger" Subject: FS: complete electronics/restoration shop equipment Message-ID: <2Lihf.3366$q93.1198451@twister.southeast.rr.com> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 12:55:26 GMT After over ten years of restoring vintage radios, I am moving on to other hobbies (SWLing, woodturning and digital photography). I have a shop-full of test equipment available, including parts and a few radios. I would like to sell the entire shop as a package to someone who would like to begin the wonderful hobby of radio restoration, or who would like to expand their existing shop. I am not looking to "get rich" on this equipment, and am prepared to be very reasonable on the price(s). If you are interested in this equipment, please drop me an email and I will send an Excel spreadsheet with the list and descriptions of the items. Thanks, Walt -- Walt Novinger Raleigh, NC USA Kenwood R5000, Ten-Tec RX-320, RX-340 Sherwood SE-3 Mk III, Kiwa MAP Article: 100814 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Hagstar Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 08:26:08 -0500 Message-ID: <11obfrl1q15op7d@corp.supernews.com> References: <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1a141$43856a10$4232bd0b$26695@COQUI.NET> Tim Mullen wrote: > I know you don't > really believe any viable solution to the problems of the modern > world can be reduced to 500 words or less. The core, the essence of being a Republican is nothing which takes long to explain can be true (50 words is more like it). You must hate America You must hate freedom You must hate our troops Clinton lied We are the only moral ones Etc. I do admire their ability to stay on message no matter what the cost. Everything must be cast in the starkest, most black and white way. I often play by the rule book myself now, as I have to agree the Dems just don't sound bite well enough without this approach. John H. Article: 100815 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Smokey" Subject: Re: Trade: Want 7143 kc xtal, have 80/40s to trade Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 07:45:08 -0600 Message-ID: <11obgvde0na5ebe@corp.supernews.com> References: <11oa9o34tfpnn0f@corp.supernews.com> Thanks Uncle Peter for your offer. I've got a 7140 also that is just far enough outof the IF skirt of the high-tech receivers (like NC-300s ) to be annoying to everyone on the frequency. I appreciate your offer though. 73 Smokey " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:rZ9hf.1582$1x.1326@fed1read06... > > "Smokey" wrote in message > news:11oa9o34tfpnn0f@corp.supernews.com... > > Am looking for a 7143 KC crystal, preferably FT-243 but not imperative. I > > will swap an 80 or 40 meter crystal of your choice (of what I have on > hand, > > that is) and pay postage on both. Thanks and have a nice holiday > fellers... > > > > Smokey > > telegrapher@hotmail.com > > > > > > Smokey > > I have a 7140 kHz FT-243 military xtal, if it would be close enough. > > Pete > > > Article: 100816 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? Message-ID: References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <255ao19r2uah9ckcre9ls2op8bn9iuol38@4ax.com> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:22:26 -0500 On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:20:24 -0500, Chuck Harris wrote: >Lazy Senior wrote: >> Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: >> >>> Lazy Senior wrote: >>> >>>> Gosh I must really bug you >>>> Lazy Senior >>> >>> >>> >>> I know for sure that this continuous BS is bugging ME >>> and probably a lot of other people too. >>> >>> Drop it and let's go back to talking about BAs. >>> >>> Ron >> >> >> Beerbarrel, Uncle Pete, and Chuckee seem to have a grudge against me and >> wont stop. Every post I do they want to humilate me. And I never back >> from a fight.... > >I beg your pardon! You are the one that seems to have a grudge >against the world. You come storming into this group, asking for >opinions, and then get all huffed when the opinions you receive >disagree with your own. > >You make political statements that are guaranteed to draw a heated >response, and then get all flustered when they do. > >You complain about what a cesspool usenet is, and how this group has >no value, and then you start leaving your brown ducks in our pond. > >I have been a contributing member of this group for 3-4 years, >but since your arrival, you have offered nothing of value to anyone....Nothing! > >When I asked a simple question about a Swan 350 (knowing that there >were a few Swan 350 users on this group) you took that as an opportunity >to make derisive remarks about me owning a Swan. > >Where are your posts with content? > >-Chuck Touche! Article: 100817 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132807589.533812.230720@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8603e$43854af0$4232bd0b$18632@COQUI.NET> <1132810058.837696.224600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4de13$43855278$4232bd0b$24130@COQUI.NET> <1132813957.155253.272830@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132819370.313517.61930@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 10:00:16 -0500 wrote in message news:1132819370.313517.61930@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > >Where's the chassis > > Squire.. So far this is all mental gymnastics. Why not do a prototype to prove and debug the design, run it for several weeks to work out glitches, and do one or two more test prototypes to finalize the design? This will give you some idea on labor and material costs, and how much time is needed to acquire parts... assemble... align and test.. etc. I think at that point you'd have a better feel for what you are proposing. One thing to think about: why not also offer a kit version? If you do a magazine construction article, say in Electric Radio, that would give you a "free" ad for the kit of materials, and some exposure. Pete Article: 100818 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? Date: 24 Nov 2005 15:00:37 GMT Message-ID: References: <1132807589.533812.230720@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8603e$43854af0$4232bd0b$18632@COQUI.NET> <1132810058.837696.224600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4de13$43855278$4232bd0b$24130@COQUI.NET> <1132813957.155253.272830@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132819370.313517.61930@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1e7fb$4385883d$4232bd0b$31761@COQUI.NET> Bill (exray@coqui.net) writes: >>>Xtal filter >> >> >> $1 each, $5 total, see recent post > > Ask for 400 of all of the above and see how quick those 'surplus' > sources go dark. And of course, it's all interrelated. If one doesn't buy a lot of stock to begin with, then they have to scramble later to get suitable parts, and in the case of the mechanical parts, that may mean reworking the chassis. Which means if a large stock isn't bought in advance, then the chassis work can't be done in bulk, because that might mean the prepunched and drilled chassis have to be scrapped. And if production has to stop while new sources are discovered, that may cause significant problems. That's why there's all those second sources for semiconductors; if a manufacturer can't count on being able to get those ICs on a continuous basis, they won't use the part. Michael VE2BVW Article: 100819 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Steve B. Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 15:06:57 GMT On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 03:18:01 -0500, "Phil B" wrote: >> Well said Mr. Liberal! Want to share the cat food? > >I (and at least half the population of the US) am sick and tired and >extremely offended by the right-wing, neo-conservative, propaganda slant >that equates the word "liberal" with various *expletive deleted* words. Fact >is, most of us are moderates. Extreme left and extreme right orientation is >much smaller. Anyone with at least an IQ of 100 will look at both sides and >draw conclusions from both. You neo-conservative bozos are going to pay >dearly in the next big election. I classify my political views as "extremely >moderate". I have voted for republicans and democrats based on their stance. >Lately I tend to vote for democrats as a statement against the whacko neo >republicans who have gained favor (for whatever unknown reason) in the last >couple of years. Anyone conservatively oriented should wake up and return to >real conservative political values and reject the "neo" crap and the >"evangelical Christian" crap. Otherwise, you are going down! > >Phil B > I find it funny that you complain about the way conservatives try to portray the word liberal and then you turn around in this posts and your next post and do the exact same thing to the word conservative. You are the reason I don't and won't vote for a liberal. You are allowed all the negative rhetoric you wish to throw out but if someone on the other side fires back you run crying to your mommy 'cause the big bully is being mean to you. Steve B. Article: 100820 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Walt Novinger" Subject: WTD: User's Manual for Kiwa MAP Message-ID: <%glhf.3382$q93.1209973@twister.southeast.rr.com> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 15:48:11 GMT I have managed to misplace the manual for my Kiwa MAP. Perchance is there someone who could copy/scan and snailmail/emaill me a copy? Happy to pay postage/copying costs, of course. Thanks, Walt -- Walt Novinger Raleigh, NC USA Kenwood R5000, Ten-Tec RX-320, RX-340 Sherwood SE-3 Mk III, Kiwa MAP Article: 100821 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 10:56:56 -0500 On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 15:06:57 GMT, Steve B. wrote: >On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 03:18:01 -0500, "Phil B" > wrote: > >>> Well said Mr. Liberal! Want to share the cat food? >> >>I (and at least half the population of the US) am sick and tired and >>extremely offended by the right-wing, neo-conservative, propaganda slant >>that equates the word "liberal" with various *expletive deleted* words. Fact >>is, most of us are moderates. Extreme left and extreme right orientation is >>much smaller. Anyone with at least an IQ of 100 will look at both sides and >>draw conclusions from both. You neo-conservative bozos are going to pay >>dearly in the next big election. I classify my political views as "extremely >>moderate". I have voted for republicans and democrats based on their stance. >>Lately I tend to vote for democrats as a statement against the whacko neo >>republicans who have gained favor (for whatever unknown reason) in the last >>couple of years. Anyone conservatively oriented should wake up and return to >>real conservative political values and reject the "neo" crap and the >>"evangelical Christian" crap. Otherwise, you are going down! >> >>Phil B >> > >I find it funny that you complain about the way conservatives try to >portray the word liberal and then you turn around in this posts and >your next post and do the exact same thing to the word conservative. >You are the reason I don't and won't vote for a liberal. You are >allowed all the negative rhetoric you wish to throw out but if someone >on the other side fires back you run crying to your mommy 'cause the >big bully is being mean to you. > > Steve B. Hehehehe...funny and true! Article: 100822 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Ron H" References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132807589.533812.230720@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8603e$43854af0$4232bd0b$18632@COQUI.NET> <1132810058.837696.224600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4de13$43855278$4232bd0b$24130@COQUI.NET> <1132813957.155253.272830@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <09rao1dv42orv9kurlj9pltnda8i5usi61@4ax.com> <1132847313.920180.264710@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 10:49:17 -0600 It seems to me that assuming the availability of the components ( R,C & especially L and big iron) the next biggest headache associated with "building" a boatanchor is mechanical! Chassis, cabinets, front panels aren't ceap. How about offering "rebuild kits" for popular BA's. Something like a rebuild kit for a Johnson Viking with all new replacable components might be very attractive. Plus you could work the economy of scale by buying in quantity at a cost much lower than an individual could buy onesy twosy... Just a thought... probably worth as much as most free advice! K3PID Ron H. wrote in message news:1132847313.920180.264710@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > It's all right. I just needed a final refutation of details. > > Thanks, > > The Eternal Squire > Article: 100823 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Dave Heil Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43852639$0$54816$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <1132806389.046102.142700@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1132807974.551665.105750@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 17:18:10 GMT eternalsquire@comcast.net wrote: > Oh yes.. this I know. What a ham wants is the most miles to the > galleon, just like a car... I thought it was Columbus who wished for more miles to the galleon. :-) Dave K8MN Article: 100824 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Bob Miller Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? Message-ID: References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132807589.533812.230720@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 17:20:57 GMT On 23 Nov 2005 20:46:29 -0800, eternalsquire@comcast.net wrote: > >The FT-101, Galaxy, Drake, and Swan are not $100 pieces of gear on >EBay, they are more like $300 to $400 pretty consistencly. I think a >fully loaded multiband fresh boatanchor should sell quite nicely for >$199.95 it if offers compareable features. That would imply a >wholesale price of about $100.00. That would imply that parts, labor, >and other indirect costs should be somewhere between $50 to $80. I >think I can get from Russia or China a single sweep tube plus a handful >of smaller tubes for about $30. The rest would have to be chassis, >discretes, power, labor, shipping, and customs. Wouldn't the power supply for a 100-watt tube rig, alone, eat up much of your cost? I've built a number of solid state kits recently, and one advantage to them is a simple 12-volt supply or wall wart is typically all you need. bob k5qwg > >Now, if I market direct through the net rather than through a retailer, >I think I could go self sustaining after a few build-sales cycles. > >If the people on this topic would be willing to be a focus group for >the fresh boat-anchor of thier dreams, I would be quite grateful. > >The Eternal Squire Article: 100825 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kashe@sonic.net Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 13:32:56 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1132601420.815018.11390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1Crgf.177$ZX3.31@trnddc06> <4eugf.8837$BC2.2330@trnddc04> <778b2$43827685$4232bdfc$2359@COQUI.NET> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:38:06 -0400, Bill wrote: >Lazy Senior wrote: > >> Bill wrote: >> But what they DID >> >>> have was WMDs >>> -Bill >> >> >> Bill >> You been watching WAY too much Fox News Network. >> >> Iraq HAD WMD's? Where you been the last year?? >> >> Lazy Senior > >Where is your memory? What do you think he gassed his Kurdish citizens >with? Does that not count as a WMD or do you have a stricter >definition? Why were UN inspectors there so many years? What about the >program to DISMANTLE such manufacturing facilites after he invaded >Kuwait. Why did he throw out the inspectors? > >Convenient for your side of the argument that you omit the implications >of 4000 murdered on US soil Four full years later and you still can't get the numbers right. Just fucking give up. > and the need to mitigate such occurences in >the future. Your 'side' is very short on alternative solutions but very >long on criticism. > >Bad recent intelligence? You betcha. No denying that. Sold a bill of >false goods by the President to start a war without any discernable >reason? Lets use the same standard of proof and stop playing partisan >roles. > >WMDs or not the underlying issues remain and thats the radical doctrine >of killing anything/anybody Western. We've got plenty of proof there. >Do you need proof that the Saddam regime was sympathetic to this cause >and was a major point of instability in the region? > >We ain't gonna win this one with simple hugs and trying to be good >neighbors...and we damn sure won't win it with internal bickering. >Bring us a good candidate to deal with this 'quagmire' in 2008. > >Good night, >Bill Article: 100826 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kashe@sonic.net Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 13:36:19 -0800 Message-ID: <0gcco11h8i5bd4kjknoiiqauc7l5uma8g8@4ax.com> References: <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 14:24:51 GMT, szekeres@pitt.edu (GregS) wrote: >In article <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Peter Wieck" wrote: >>John: >> >>The amount of $$ appropriated for the Gulf War to-date is ~averaging >>4.8 billion-with-a-B dollars per month. Allow 24 months, that comes to: >>$115,200,000,000 . >> >>115,200,000,000/285,000,000 = $404/person. >> >>As of November 5. >> >>This does not count the thousands of contracts for 'infrastructure' and >>other items. That total brings the cost-per-capita to around >>$750/person excepting those employed by Haliburton. >> >>I would still rather see that money spent in West Virginia for schools, >>or Mississippi, or Louisiana, even Texas, Alabama or Arkansas. God help >>us, even Camden, NJ. At least when my present-and-future grandchildren >>are paying it back there will be a discernable benefit. >> >>But that would be too much like thinking from an administration >>bankrupt in that skill. >> >>Peter Wieck >>Wyncote, PA >> > >What is really important is how much of that money spent on the war, >goes directly back to the US citizens. Much of this money supplies >jobs right here. > >greg So give it to them directly. Paying people to build one-time-use bombs is tossing most of it straight down the toilet. Article: 100827 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kashe@sonic.net Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 13:47:58 -0800 Message-ID: References: <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132672696.776397.323680@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 22 Nov 2005 07:18:16 -0800, "Peter Wieck" wrote: > >There are too many not to provide regular >and easy targets to the tune of about 2.7 per day, on average, >fatalities. Not to mentioned wounded and crippled, not to mention US >citizens as private contractors in the region. However, others in this newsgroup would obviously welcome the death and maiming because of the economic activity (dollars going back into the US) generated by it. How else justify the war on the basis of the contribution to the US economy? It is said that, had the Exxon Valdez arrived safely at its destination port, it would have been a minor bump to the economy. But by generating the spill, it made a much greater contribution due to the billions expended in cleanup costs, lawyers, accountants, court personnel, etc. So maybe we should just destroy the rest of the world and enjoy the economic benefts of rebuilding it. By that standard, Katrina was the best thing to happen to the US ecnomy this year. Right up there with the economic devastation resulting from Enron and other cronies of the prsent administration. The court costs alone for these events are staggering. Article: 100828 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kashe@sonic.net Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 13:49:10 -0800 Message-ID: <79dco1dva7o4g2a4j3i9c49o3cneh8k8a8@4ax.com> References: <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:10:32 GMT, Lazy Senior wrote: >xrongor wrote: > >> lacking a real plan for the economy, the president chose a war. not the >> best reason to go to war... >> >> but hey, if it will help the economy, why dont we start two? >> >> randy >> > >It ok as long as YOU or your family aint doin the fighing and dying...... > Thank you for the clear statiment of the administration and congressional positions. >Lazy Senior Article: 100829 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kashe@sonic.net Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 13:50:06 -0800 Message-ID: References: <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5dHgf.119$Hk1.67@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:56:49 GMT, Dave Heil wrote: >Peter Wieck wrote: >> John: >> >> The amount of $$ appropriated for the Gulf War to-date is ~averaging >> 4.8 billion-with-a-B dollars per month. Allow 24 months, that comes to: >> $115,200,000,000 . >> >> 115,200,000,000/285,000,000 = $404/person. >> >> As of November 5. >> >> This does not count the thousands of contracts for 'infrastructure' and >> other items. That total brings the cost-per-capita to around >> $750/person excepting those employed by Haliburton. >> >> I would still rather see that money spent in West Virginia for schools... > >Thanks very much but we have plenty of schools. We have so many that a >number are being closed. School consolidation is taking place. If >you'd like to send us something, we could use prime beef or Stilton cheese. > >> ...or Mississippi, or Louisiana, even Texas, Alabama or Arkansas. God help >> us, even Camden, NJ. At least when my present-and-future grandchildren >> are paying it back there will be a discernable benefit. > >"discernible" > >I think we are seeing and will see such a benefit. I don't put a price >on my freedom. > >> But that would be too much like thinking from an administration >> bankrupt in that skill. > >You're an expert in foreign policy, are you? > >I like a lot of folks much more when you're discussing boatanchors. Funny, we feel the same way about you. > >Dave Heil K8MN > > Article: 100830 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Message-ID: <43865B0A.5917580B@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 00:30:04 GMT Lazy Senior wrote: > > Uncle Peter wrote: > > > > > Unfortunately cheap computers usually use properietary > > motherboards. Being lazy carries a price beyond the tag. > > > > You know as much about computers as you do BA or hamradio. My HP, the > one I am typing on right now has an off the shelf non- prop Asus > motherboard. A ATI Radeon graphic card etc.Built by HP and bought at > Best Buy. "Non- prop"? I guess that you can't see the big HP image that flashes on the screen from the "Prop" HP BIOS when you turn the computer on. I have a HP LX876 server with an ASUS motherboard. NONE of the drivers are available and the hard drive is missing so that ASUS motherboard will probably end up in the trash. Drivers for others in that ASUS family don't work which is too bad because I really need a working server for a local Veteran's information website project. > Since I maintained computers for a living for over 30 years, I suspect I > know more than the average person about them and since you are stupider > than average I know a WHOLE lot more than you when it comes to computers. I still repair a lot of computers, and some down to the chip level. I replace defective caps on motherboards and clean up bad solder work on some cards as well. I've been at it for 23 years and it has ranged from mini-computers to embedded systems, and everything in between. The last job I had before I was declared disabled was on telemetry equipment, and some of those systems are in orbit. > Anyway there isnt anything wrong with propreitary motherboards. > Laptops are outselling desktops right now and they are all properietary > and they work just fine. Laptops are in a separate class altogether, although you already know that. > Lazy Senior -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 100831 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Tom" References: Subject: Re: Astro-net from the 60s (was: K1MAN ESSAY) Message-ID: <9buhf.7283$id.6018@trnddc04> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 01:56:21 GMT You bet. They started out when some of the guys noticed brief point-source bright flashes on the lunar surface. Used 80m to time whether the flashes were synchronized across large observation distances. If they were not, then the flashes were likely meteors in the earth's atmosphere; if they were synchronized, then the probablility that they were associated with an event on the lunar surface was pretty high. The guys had scopes setup in the backyard and 100-foot headphone/microphone cables going back to the radio so they could observe and talk on the radio simultaneously. They did reach a conclusion about the flashes.... -- Tom "Jeffrey Herman" wrote in message news:dm3gng$hrl$1@news.hawaii.edu... > "Bob Sherin, W4ASX" wrote in message >> To be honest, I never felt comfortable on 75 meters, nor did I feel >> that I fit in for the most part. There were groups, however, in which >> I enjoyed participating, > > Anyone remember the Astro-Net on 3885 kc from the 1960s? It was composed > of group of amateur astronomers who nightly trained their telescopes on a > particular celestial object and would then have round-table comments > about that object. It was fascinating to eavesdrop on that net. > > 73, Jeff KH6O > -- > Chief Petty Officer, U.S. Coast Guard > Mathematics Lecturer, University of Hawaii System Article: 100832 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Dave Heil Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5dHgf.119$Hk1.67@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 04:46:22 GMT kashe@sonic.net wrote: > On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:56:49 GMT, Dave Heil > wrote: > >> Peter Wieck wrote: >>> John: >>> >>> The amount of $$ appropriated for the Gulf War to-date is ~averaging >>> 4.8 billion-with-a-B dollars per month. Allow 24 months, that comes to: >>> $115,200,000,000 . >>> >>> 115,200,000,000/285,000,000 = $404/person. >>> >>> As of November 5. >>> >>> This does not count the thousands of contracts for 'infrastructure' and >>> other items. That total brings the cost-per-capita to around >>> $750/person excepting those employed by Haliburton. >>> >>> I would still rather see that money spent in West Virginia for schools... >> Thanks very much but we have plenty of schools. We have so many that a >> number are being closed. School consolidation is taking place. If >> you'd like to send us something, we could use prime beef or Stilton cheese. >> >>> ...or Mississippi, or Louisiana, even Texas, Alabama or Arkansas. God help >>> us, even Camden, NJ. At least when my present-and-future grandchildren >>> are paying it back there will be a discernable benefit. >> "discernible" >> >> I think we are seeing and will see such a benefit. I don't put a price >> on my freedom. >> >>> But that would be too much like thinking from an administration >>> bankrupt in that skill. >> You're an expert in foreign policy, are you? >> >> I like a lot of folks much more when you're discussing boatanchors. > > Funny, we feel the same way about you. We? Is that you and your rig? I'll guess that you speak only for yourself and that you do put a price limit on your freedom. Dave K8MN