Article: 100910 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 08:26:23 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1133390327.690101.281010@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> seriously.... how is this guy able to do this? it seems incredible that someone hasnt either kicked his ass, put him in jail, or something.... i mean there seem to be enough junior detecetives able to keep track of him. we have names, addresses, ebay accounts. and the authorities cant do anything? so im asking a serious question. whats his secret? randy wrote in message news:1133390327.690101.281010@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > Amazing, this guy is still up to his old tricks. Same address, same > name, same MO. > > He ripped me several years ago for a Uniden 2510. > > Repost: > > Radiosam > Jun 9 2003, 10:38 am show options > > Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap, rec.radio.scanner, rec.radio.cb > From: radio...@wongfaye.com (Radiosam) - Find messages by this author > Date: 9 Jun 2003 11:38:38 -0700 > Local: Mon, Jun 9 2003 10:38 am > Subject: Dave Munroe Scammer of Ontario Canada back at it!!! > Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original > | Remove | Report Abuse > > If your contacted by this guy or see a post from > "homesteaders2...@yahoo.com" or "Homesteaders2...@yahoo.com" don't > deal with him!!! He had a low profile for a while, but he's back at > the scamming. > > > Most Current info is: > > > Dave Munroe (doubt if that's real) > 220 Paudash Road (doesn't show up on Yahoo Maps) > Hiawatha, Ontario, Canada K0L-2G0 (Again, the city of Hiawatha > doesn't show on Yahoo, and this is a new city compared to his old city > of Keene) > Cell phone (yeah right) is 705-313-1518 > > > Mail is beginning to bounce to the lower case > homesteaders2...@yahoo.com. My most recent email from him was dated > in mid-May in which he claimed that the mail is slow. > > > He currently has several ID's still active on Ebay of "leanna2000", > "-pokey-", "Quake99" and "Invest7". All have 0 feedback's but ebay > only goes back 30 days for history now. So information is skimpy. > Article: 100911 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Ron Subject: Re: getting bit by my FT-101EE chassis Date: 01 Dec 2005 13:07:28 EST Message-ID: <438F3CF8.1010909@yahoo.com> References: <1133329679.320807.49090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1133412734.124681.311830@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <438E9978.9090709@yahoo.com> <276dnQbYC_RplBLeRVn-tw@rcn.net> <438F1465.30803@yahoo.com> Chuck Harris wrote: > Ron wrote: > The so called safety ground is not a > >> 100% sure thing in the case of a failure. Because safety grounds are >> as prone to fail as anything a third external wire tying all metal >> cabinet radios together is the only safety measure if one has a table >> full of these old AC powered beasts. > > > I forgot to mention one additional tidbit: Safety ground wires are *not* as > prone to failure as are the current carrying hot and neutral leads. > > I have repaired numerous power cords on portable appliances, drills, saws, > etc. There is one type of failure that I see over and over again, a broken > power lead inside of the cord, with no sign of failure on the outside. > The failure is usually at a point of stress, such as just after the strain > relief for the cord. When I take the cord apart (usually to shorten it, > and reconnect it inside the appliance) I have always found the break to be > one that looks as if someone snipped the wire off clean and square! There > is some blackening from the arcing that invariably occurs, but the break is > clean and square. This is not at all like the way a twisted rope fails. > > I believe the reason for this, is a single strand breaks due to flexing, a > mfr. flaw, or stress. When this strand breaks, it increases the current > density > of the wire at that point. The wire now gets hotter at the break, and this > makes it more prone to stress failures, and another strand breaks... > then another, > and pretty soon the wire is seriously overloaded, and the rest of the > strands > pop. > > If I find a break in the safety ground wire, it is always a physical > failure > caused by the wire getting wound up in the drill bit, or cut off by the > saw, or > sheared off by a tool box in the bed of the truck. > > -Chuck Good point and thanks I think a few others understand the problem now more than they did. Article: 100912 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Subject: Re: WTB: EV 664 CAble Date: 1 Dec 2005 13:15:32 -0500 Message-ID: References: Bob Rinaldi wrote: > >I'm looking for a 4-PIN high impedance cable for the Electro Voice 664 mic. >Thanks, Newark has the old Amphenol connectors in stock if you want to make your own. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Article: 100913 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Ron Subject: Re: getting bit by my FT-101EE chassis Date: 01 Dec 2005 13:15:18 EST Message-ID: References: <1133329679.320807.49090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1133412734.124681.311830@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <438E9978.9090709@yahoo.com> Don Bowey wrote: > On 11/30/05 10:29 PM, in article 438E9978.9090709@yahoo.com, "Ron" > wrote: > > >>I believe the important thing here is that a three wire plug be used and >>that it gets wired correctly. I will never see why the neutral which is >>grounded and green wire which is ground cannot be tied together. > > > You declare that you will never understand the requirement, and obviously > have not searched for information about it, so why do you waste space with > such a post? > > (snip) > Just thought a little more info would be good for the group. I fully understand the issue of grounds. Have a good day and hope someone got a better feel for why AC grounds are important. Ron Article: 100914 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Ron Subject: Re: getting bit by my FT-101EE chassis Date: 01 Dec 2005 13:20:00 EST Message-ID: References: <1133329679.320807.49090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1133412734.124681.311830@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <438E9978.9090709@yahoo.com> <276dnQbYC_RplBLeRVn-tw@rcn.net> <438F1465.30803@yahoo.com> Chuck Harris wrote: > Ron wrote: > >> OK that is one case where your need two failures to cause a hot >> chassis. Now for Doofus to get electrocuted he will also have to >> have one hand on this deaf radio and one hand on the radio that has a >> metal chassis that is plugged into a socket with a good ground. > > > He won't know the radio is "deaf" until he trys to turn it on... and you > know Doofus, he broke the on/off knob years ago, and he always turns the > bare aluminum shaft while he is standing barefoot on the cement floor. > > The problem you > >> could also have a similar problem even if the neutral was wired >> correctly (not tied to ground). If the ground wire broke in the cord >> or inside the radio and then a capacitor or a transformer had an >> internal short to the chassis or there was a resistor from hot to >> chassis ground then the chassis would become hot. The so called >> safety ground is not a 100% sure thing in the case of a failure. > > > Nothing is ever 100% perfectly safe. But you do try and improve the odds > as much as you can comfortably afford. Adding a safety wire system gives > you much more bang for the buck in terms of safety than the simple addition > of 33% more wire would appear to offer. > > Because safety grounds are as > >> prone to fail as anything a third external wire tying all metal >> cabinet radios together is the only safety measure if one has a table >> full of these old AC powered beasts. >> >> Yes it is not a good policy to tie the ground and neutral together. I >> just felt that a good explanation of why not to do so was required >> instead of just a blanket statement stating "The safety ground must >> NEVER be connected to the neutral at the load !NEVER! " > > > The problem here is I could write for the next week describing all of the > failure modes I know about that can and do happen with power distribution > grounds, and grounding. But I really don't have that kind of time. It > is far easier for me to tell you that doing such a thing is unsafe, and > that you should NEVER connect the safety ground to the neutral at the load. > > If I tell you that E = I * R are you going to make me prove it? Or can I > just tell you from a position of assumed authority that this is a true > relationship? You can go and find a book that will tell you E = I*R, and > likewise, you can find a book, or do a google search, to find out why you > should NEVER connect the safety ground to the neutral at the load. > > -Chuck Chuck I think you did a very good job and hope a few others good a better understand of the problem. I just thought a little more info for the group would no hurt. Being an Engineer I fully understand the problem and Ohms law put most on this group I am sure are not and if a new person who is us to solidstate circuit starts playing with boatanchors it is totally different then being raised with them. Again thanks and have a good day. Ron . Article: 100915 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: mcalhoun@ksu.edu Subject: OFF TOPIC, but how do y'all read these news groups? Date: 1 Dec 2005 16:02:04 -0600 Message-ID: Note the multi-group posting. For 18 years, I've been reading newgroups on Unix (or Linux) machines, first using "rn" (readnews) and later "nn" (netnews), but now my ISP (Kansas State University) has notified me that, because their news server is getting old and because I'm one of only a very few users, they are dropping the service as of 28 December. So I need to find an alternative way of getting my daily "fix"; I sure hope someone has suggestion(s)! -- --Myron A. Calhoun. Five boxes preserve our freedoms: soap, ballot, witness, jury, and cartridge PhD EE (retired). "Barbershop" tenor. CDL(PTXS). W0PBV. (785) 539-4448 NRA Life Member and Certified Instructor (Home Firearm Safety, Rifle, Pistol) Article: 100916 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 18:36:05 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC, but how do y'all read these news groups? References: <43a463-5ld.ln1@remote.clifto.com> Message-ID: <5ff07$438f7ad6$4232bd6c$7468@COQUI.NET> clifto wrote: > mcalhoun@ksu.edu wrote: > >>So I need to find an alternative way of getting my daily "fix"; >>I sure hope someone has suggestion(s)! > > > You can buy a super duper feed from Supernews. For less money, you can > get a good feed (text only IIRC) from news.individual.net. > > Guess we're not in Kansas any more. > add teranews.com to the list Article: 100917 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "John, N9JG" References: <43a463-5ld.ln1@remote.clifto.com> <5ff07$438f7ad6$4232bd6c$7468@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC, but how do y'all read these news groups? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:40:48 GMT Check out https://www.altopia.com/ "Bill" wrote in message news:5ff07$438f7ad6$4232bd6c$7468@COQUI.NET... > clifto wrote: > >> mcalhoun@ksu.edu wrote: >> >>>So I need to find an alternative way of getting my daily "fix"; >>>I sure hope someone has suggestion(s)! >> >> >> You can buy a super duper feed from Supernews. For less money, you can >> get a good feed (text only IIRC) from news.individual.net. >> >> Guess we're not in Kansas any more. >> > add teranews.com to the list Article: 100918 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "paolo gramigna" References: <2Lihf.3366$q93.1198451@twister.southeast.rr.com> Subject: Re: complete electronics/restoration shop equipment Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 15:37:30 +0100 hi, i'm on for the excel. drop it to paolo.gramigna@controllo.it . thanks.... "Walt Novinger" ha scritto nel messaggio news:2Lihf.3366$q93.1198451@twister.southeast.rr.com... > After over ten years of restoring vintage radios, I am moving on to other > hobbies (SWLing, woodturning and digital photography). I have a shop-full > of test equipment available, including parts and a few radios. I would > like to sell the entire shop as a package to someone who would like to > begin the wonderful hobby of radio restoration, or who would like to > expand their existing shop. I am not looking to "get rich" on this > equipment, and am prepared to be very reasonable on the price(s). > > If you are interested in this equipment, please drop me an email and I > will > send an Excel spreadsheet with the list and descriptions of the items. > > Thanks, > Walt > > -- > Walt Novinger > Raleigh, NC USA > Kenwood R5000, Ten-Tec RX-320, RX-340 > Sherwood SE-3 Mk III, Kiwa MAP > Article: 100919 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:11:02 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <1132601420.815018.11390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1Crgf.177$ZX3.31@trnddc06> <4eugf.8837$BC2.2330@trnddc04> <778b2$43827685$4232bdfc$2359@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <5884$43872988$4232bd31$21960@COQUI.NET> kashe@sonic.net wrote: >>Bill wrote: >>Convenient for your side of the argument that you omit the implications >>of 4000 murdered on US soil > > > Four full years later and you still can't get the numbers > right. Just fucking give up. Ok, 3213. Does that change my point? -Bill Article: 100920 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Cecil Moore Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC, but how do y'all read these news groups? References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 23:32:26 GMT mcalhoun@ksu.edu wrote: > So I need to find an alternative way of getting my daily "fix"; > I sure hope someone has suggestion(s)! Who's your ISP? SBCGlobal.net supplies a news-server. Google's newsgroup server is now close to real-time. Or try: > http://www.usenet-access.com/contactus.asp -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp Article: 100921 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC, but how do y'all read these news groups? Date: 1 Dec 2005 18:42:46 -0500 Message-ID: References: In article , wrote: >For 18 years, I've been reading newgroups on Unix (or Linux) machines, >first using "rn" (readnews) and later "nn" (netnews), but now my ISP >(Kansas State University) has notified me that, because their news server >is getting old and because I'm one of only a very few users, they are >dropping the service as of 28 December. If you like using the old rn, nn, and tin servers, get a shell account >from Panix. You can telnet or ssh in from anywhere in the world, type "rn" at the shell prompt and go. And it's ten bucks a month and the tech support is better than you've ever had from Computer Services at KSU. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Article: 100922 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Subject: Re: JW Miller data sheets for 1970s parts From: Darrell References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 00:11:18 GMT B5495A - Antenna Coil 1.7 - 5.5 MC C5495A - Antenna Coil 5.5 - 15.0 MC D5495A - Antenna Coil 12 - 36.0 MC 73, Darrell, WA5VGO > I have JW Miller 3 coils from a 1970s project (receiver pre-selector > from Electronics Illustrated, Popular Electronics or Radio Electronics > circa 1973 - 1975 time period) > > Looking for the data sheets for these JW Miller parts (I have a > request in with JW Miller also - but have doubts whether it is > on-file) > > B5495-A > C5495-A (5.5. - 18 Mc) > D5486-A? Ant. Stage 12 - ?? [hard to read] > > Original project article and data sheets have vanished. > > Greg > w9gb > > > Article: 100923 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1133329679.320807.49090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1133412734.124681.311830@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <438E9978.9090709@yahoo.com> <276dnQbYC_RplBLeRVn-tw@rcn.net> <438F1465.30803@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: getting bit by my FT-101EE chassis Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 20:09:09 -0500 "Ron" wrote in message news:438F1465.30803@yahoo.com... > OK that is one case where your need two failures to cause a hot chassis. > NEVER NEVER NEVER connect safety ground and neutral together on an exposed metal chassis, PERIOD! NEVER. What if some duffus uses a hardware store cheater on the radio, because he house ONLY has the older two slot wall sockets? 50/50 shot that the chassis and cabinet are hot with 120 VAC!!! The white neutral and black hot should go to the load, the green safety ground goes to the metal cabinet. Also, tieing the neutral and hot together defeats GFIs. Pete Article: 100924 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1133329679.320807.49090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1133412734.124681.311830@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <438E9994.6040001@domain.invalid> Subject: Re: getting bit by my FT-101EE chassis Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 20:11:27 -0500 wrote in message news:438E9994.6040001@domain.invalid... > I believe the important thing here is that a three wire plug be used and > that it gets wired correctly. I will never see why the neutral which is > grounded and green wire which is ground cannot be tied together. That's why you're dangerous. Sorry. Lot's of people use hardware store cheaters on safety cords so they can be plugged into older outlets. You REALLY want an AC hot chassis, or to kill some unsuspecting future user? Neutral and safety ground ARE NOT the same thing. Pete Article: 100925 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1133329679.320807.49090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1133412734.124681.311830@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <438E9978.9090709@yahoo.com> <276dnQbYC_RplBLeRVn-tw@rcn.net> <438F1465.30803@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: getting bit by my FT-101EE chassis Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 20:16:42 -0500 " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:o8Njf.2627$4v.2258@fed1read03... One final comment, never assume that someone hasn't replaced older outlets with modern safety ground devices where no safety ground was available in the older two conductor cables! A second fatal assumption would be that the same outlet wasn't wired with the hot and neutral reversed. That's another reason why the neutral and ground aren't tied together at the load. Pete Article: 100926 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC, but how do y'all read these news groups? References: <43a463-5ld.ln1@remote.clifto.com> <5ff07$438f7ad6$4232bd6c$7468@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <_jPjf.8429$wi2.4833@bignews1.bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:39:58 -0500 Bill wrote: > clifto wrote: > >> mcalhoun@ksu.edu wrote: >> >>> So I need to find an alternative way of getting my daily "fix"; >>> I sure hope someone has suggestion(s)! >> >> >> >> You can buy a super duper feed from Supernews. For less money, you can >> get a good feed (text only IIRC) from news.individual.net. >> >> Guess we're not in Kansas any more. >> > add teranews.com to the list teranews.com is ok, free (nominal one time setup charge) but they go up and down like a yo-yo. Article: 100927 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Message-ID: <438FCA7B.2FBF09F7@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Latest EBAY Joke References: Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 04:17:36 GMT Uncle Peter wrote: > > Wow, Motorola doghouses are worth THAT much? I remember using > one of the TXs in a repeater back in the sixties! > > Pete To think of the truckloads of those that I scrapped over the years along with other Motorola, GE, and RCA gear. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 100928 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Message-ID: <438FCD06.67C24C1D@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: getting bit by my FT-101EE chassis References: <1133329679.320807.49090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1133412734.124681.311830@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <438E9978.9090709@yahoo.com> <276dnQbYC_RplBLeRVn-tw@rcn.net> <438F1465.30803@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 04:28:29 GMT Ron wrote: > > OK that is one case where your need two failures to cause a hot chassis. > Now for Doofus to get electrocuted he will also have to have one > hand on this deaf radio and one hand on the radio that has a metal > chassis that is plugged into a socket with a good ground. The problem > you could also have a similar problem even if the neutral was wired > correctly (not tied to ground). If the ground wire broke in the cord or > inside the radio and then a capacitor or a transformer had an internal > short to the chassis or there was a resistor from hot to chassis ground > then the chassis would become hot. The so called safety ground is not a > 100% sure thing in the case of a failure. Because safety grounds are as > prone to fail as anything a third external wire tying all metal cabinet > radios together is the only safety measure if one has a table full of > these old AC powered beasts. > > Yes it is not a good policy to tie the ground and neutral together. I > just felt that a good explanation of why not to do so was required > instead of just a blanket statement stating "The safety ground must > NEVER be connected to the neutral at the load !NEVER! " > > But he on the safe side and ground those boatanchors together. (you can > buy a bigger boat that way). > > Thanks > Ron WA0KDS Ok, Ron here is another possible failure mode: The neutral from the pole pig goes high resistance or completely open. if both halves of the 240 VAC service are not balanced and the imbalance will cause a current to flow from the neutral wire, to the radio and back to the ground rod. If that current is very high the cord will smoke or burn. I had to replace a breaker box a few years ago after the neutral corroded to the point it exploded. I was outside at three in the morning repairing the damn thing to cool my bedroom down so i could go to work the next day, but nothing had the suggested wiring, or I could have lost my home. Also, you could have trouble collecting from your insurance company after a fire caused by your own work. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 100929 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kashe@sonic.net Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 20:37:11 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132758074.248547.104190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:07:43 -0500, Beerbarrel wrote: >On 23 Nov 2005 07:01:14 -0800, "Peter Wieck" wrote: > >>Sissies.... >> >>Beer, with all due respect, if you say so. And if you mean by "sissies" >>that I (we) value human life over testosterone poisoning, I would be >>proud of the designation. >> >>Be well, have a good Thanksgiving! >> >>Peter Wieck >>Wyncote, PA > > >Good for you! We go to the middle east for 2 different reasons that is >for damn sure. It has nothing to do with testosterone. It has >everything to do with supporting your country. I think in your case >you should have stayed with the people you love so dearly. We sure >don't need or want you here. "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." --Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918 Article: 100930 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kashe@sonic.net Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 20:38:02 -0800 Message-ID: <8sjvo1puhs1rm6ji4iq27p1egap8qic058@4ax.com> References: <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132758074.248547.104190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132758721.957918.323550@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:20:32 -0500, Beerbarrel wrote: >On 23 Nov 2005 07:12:02 -0800, "Peter Wieck" wrote: > >>Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. >> >>Samuel Johnson, 1775 >> >>Peter Wieck >>Wyncote, PA > > > >I would rather be a scoundrel than a coward.......I'll tell your >buddies you said hi when I get there next month. You'll be a hell of a lot more shy there than you are here. Article: 100931 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Message-ID: <438FD09D.A43178DD@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: getting bit by my FT-101EE chassis References: <1133329679.320807.49090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1133412734.124681.311830@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <438E9978.9090709@yahoo.com> <276dnQbYC_RplBLeRVn-tw@rcn.net> <438F1465.30803@yahoo.com> <1133472049.804715.259580@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 04:43:47 GMT Chuck Harris wrote: > > The black wire is called Line, or we can call it hot+ > The white wire is called neutral, or we can call it hot- > The green wire is the safety ground, and it goes to pretty > much any screw on a permanent part of the metal chassis. > (eg. don't use a cover screw, if you can avoid it.) > > Technically, the green wire is supposed to have a crimped on > lug that is a closed circle, rather than a fork. This is > so that if the screw loosens, it won't fall off right away. > > If the FT101 doesn't have markings for line and neutral, it is > usually a good idea to make sure that the line (black) goes to > the fuse. If Yuasu did things correctly, the other side of the > fuse should go to a switch, or relay contact. > > [Note, if the fuse is one of the type with a screw in, or > bayonetted cap, the side of the fuse that goes closest to the > power line should be the hidden center pin. This prevents > you from getting zapped when you change the fuse. I have seen > a lot of manufacturers get this wrong.] > > -Chuck Chuck, I worked as a production test tech at Microdyne on everything except the Scientific Atlanta telemetry product we subcontracted. A new employee in assembly mis-wired the round metal power connector and QA missed it: The white and green wires went to the main power switch, and the black was connected to the chassis. Another tech ignored the written test procedure and plugged it in for initial testing to see that it didn't come on. He leaned over to unplug it with one hand on the aluminum case and his other hand brushed against the bare metal outlet box where the radio was plugged in. He got a nasty shock and if it hadn't caused his muscles to contract violently, he would probably be dead. After that he never questioned the step that required the power cord to be checked with an ohm meter BEFORE the radio was plugged in. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 100932 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kashe@sonic.net Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 20:43:46 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1132601420.815018.11390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1Crgf.177$ZX3.31@trnddc06> <4eugf.8837$BC2.2330@trnddc04> <778b2$43827685$4232bdfc$2359@COQUI.NET> <5884$43872988$4232bd31$21960@COQUI.NET> On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:11:02 -0400, Bill wrote: >kashe@sonic.net wrote: > > >>>Bill wrote: >>>Convenient for your side of the argument that you omit the implications >>>of 4000 murdered on US soil >> >> >> Four full years later and you still can't get the numbers >> right. Just fucking give up. > > >Ok, 3213. Does that change my point? > >-Bill No, because the answer is less than 2,000. Article: 100933 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kashe@sonic.net Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 20:45:41 -0800 Message-ID: References: <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5dHgf.119$Hk1.67@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 04:46:22 GMT, Dave Heil wrote: >kashe@sonic.net wrote: >> On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:56:49 GMT, Dave Heil >> wrote: >> >>> Peter Wieck wrote: >>>> John: >>>> >>>> The amount of $$ appropriated for the Gulf War to-date is ~averaging >>>> 4.8 billion-with-a-B dollars per month. Allow 24 months, that comes to: >>>> $115,200,000,000 . >>>> >>>> 115,200,000,000/285,000,000 = $404/person. >>>> >>>> As of November 5. >>>> >>>> This does not count the thousands of contracts for 'infrastructure' and >>>> other items. That total brings the cost-per-capita to around >>>> $750/person excepting those employed by Haliburton. >>>> >>>> I would still rather see that money spent in West Virginia for schools... >>> Thanks very much but we have plenty of schools. We have so many that a >>> number are being closed. School consolidation is taking place. If >>> you'd like to send us something, we could use prime beef or Stilton cheese. >>> >>>> ...or Mississippi, or Louisiana, even Texas, Alabama or Arkansas. God help >>>> us, even Camden, NJ. At least when my present-and-future grandchildren >>>> are paying it back there will be a discernable benefit. >>> "discernible" >>> >>> I think we are seeing and will see such a benefit. I don't put a price >>> on my freedom. >>> >>>> But that would be too much like thinking from an administration >>>> bankrupt in that skill. >>> You're an expert in foreign policy, are you? >>> >>> I like a lot of folks much more when you're discussing boatanchors. >> >> Funny, we feel the same way about you. > >We? Is that you and your rig? > >I'll guess that you speak only for yourself and that you do put a price >limit on your freedom. Yep, I won't give it up for the illusory "tradeoffs" others are willing to make with their civil liberties. > >Dave K8MN Article: 100934 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 01:27:42 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <1132601420.815018.11390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1Crgf.177$ZX3.31@trnddc06> <4eugf.8837$BC2.2330@trnddc04> <778b2$43827685$4232bdfc$2359@COQUI.NET> <5884$43872988$4232bd31$21960@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: kashe@sonic.net wrote: > On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:11:02 -0400, Bill wrote: > > >>kashe@sonic.net wrote: >> >> >> >>>>Bill wrote: >>>>Convenient for your side of the argument that you omit the implications >>>>of 4000 murdered on US soil >>> >>> >>> Four full years later and you still can't get the numbers >>>right. Just fucking give up. >> >> >>Ok, 3213. Does that change my point? >> >>-Bill > > > No, because the answer is less than 2,000. Wrong, Osama. Do your homework. I did. But it wouldn't matter if it was 200. Our mainland was attacked and it makes sense to prevent that from happening again. -Bill Article: 100935 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Michael Crestohl Subject: FS: Three Copies RADIO BYGONES (British BA Mag) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 10:41:05 GMT Hi Gang: Well time to clear out more clutter...............here are three copies of the British equivilent to ELECTRIC RADIO - Radio Bygones. Three issues, Issue 92, Christmas (DEC/JAN) 2004, Issue 93 Feb/March 2005 and Issue 94 April/May 2005, This is a very interesting and well-illustrated magazine. There is a fascinating two-part article called German 'Amateurs" in WW-II. I am asking $8.00 plus postage for them. They normally cost about $6.00 per issue or $38.00 for an annual subscriotion consisting of six printed issues. . If interested please reply by e-mail. 73, Michael, W1RC w1rc*at*verizon*dot*net Article: 100936 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <1132601420.815018.11390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1Crgf.177$ZX3.31@trnddc06> <4eugf.8837$BC2.2330@trnddc04> <778b2$43827685$4232bdfc$2359@COQUI.NET> <5884$43872988$4232bd31$21960@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 12:05:55 GMT Bill wrote: > But it wouldn't matter if it was 200. Our mainland was attacked and it > makes sense to prevent that from happening again. ...and being in Iraq is going to prevent this from happening again how? 15 of 19 mad dog 9/11 assholes = Saudi Arabia 0 of 19 mad dog 9/11 assholes = Iraq Article: 100937 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 08:21:28 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <1132601420.815018.11390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1Crgf.177$ZX3.31@trnddc06> <4eugf.8837$BC2.2330@trnddc04> <778b2$43827685$4232bdfc$2359@COQUI.NET> <5884$43872988$4232bd31$21960@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <35912$43903c4a$4232bd48$1385@COQUI.NET> Carter-K8VT wrote: > Bill wrote: > >> But it wouldn't matter if it was 200. Our mainland was attacked and >> it makes sense to prevent that from happening again. > > > ...and being in Iraq is going to prevent this from happening again how? > > 15 of 19 mad dog 9/11 assholes = Saudi Arabia > > 0 of 19 mad dog 9/11 assholes = Iraq I'm not saying that it will. The radical element is pretty well entrenched all over the muslim world...including right here at home. I don't think there will ever be 100% freedom from the threat but at least they won't be getting WMDs from Saddam who had 'em and used them at one point. Its a start. Besides, he was a mad dog asshole too. -Bill Article: 100938 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Smokey" Subject: Re: Trade only: Have EV 664, want EV 666 mike Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 07:49:01 -0600 Message-ID: <11p0k6ilpf473a8@corp.supernews.com> References: <11ooveeibhaqo5f@corp.supernews.com> <11or9m7ftfrmn0e@corp.supernews.com> Thanks to those who contacted me. My 664 is gone and a 666 is on the way. Smokey Article: 100939 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: 2 Dec 2005 11:28:10 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5884$43872988$4232bd31$21960@COQUI.NET> Bill wrote: > >Wrong, Osama. Do your homework. I did. >But it wouldn't matter if it was 200. Our mainland was attacked and it >makes sense to prevent that from happening again. It sure would, wouldn't it? It's a shame we haven't tried it and are wasting precious resources while being totally ineffective against the people responsible for the actual attack. And in the process we are pissing off people who could have been our friends, and making them into more enemies. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Article: 100940 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Subject: Re: Trade only: Have EV 664, want EV 666 mike Date: 2 Dec 2005 11:29:34 -0500 Message-ID: References: <11ooveeibhaqo5f@corp.supernews.com> <11or9m7ftfrmn0e@corp.supernews.com> <11p0k6ilpf473a8@corp.supernews.com> Smokey wrote: >Thanks to those who contacted me. My 664 is gone and a 666 is on the way. Hey, I'll take that trade, too! If anyone else wants to swap, I'm very much game. I'll even include the connector for the 664 and you can keep your 666 Canon connectors. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Article: 100941 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Allodoxaphobia Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC, but how do y'all read these news groups? Date: 2 Dec 2005 17:02:34 GMT Message-ID: References: On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 12:39:23 +0000, Highland Ham wrote: > You can access newsgroups via Google ,but I believe you then need a > gmail e-mail address ,which is free anyway. > > Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH > >====================mcalhoun@ksu.edu wrote:==================== > >> Note the multi-group posting. >> >> For 18 years, I've been reading newgroups on Unix (or Linux) machines, >> first using "rn" (readnews) and later "nn" (netnews), but now my ISP >> (Kansas State University) has notified me that, because their news server >> is getting old and because I'm one of only a very few users, they are >> dropping the service as of 28 December. >> >> So I need to find an alternative way of getting my daily "fix"; >> I sure hope someone has suggestion(s)! And, using Google, you run the risk of being killfiled by a Great Many usenet denizens because of the gawd-awful defaults Google uses for follow-ups in its posting configuration. But, then, you knew that... So, you being a *nix user, I can't see you getting excited about doing usenet 'text work' with a bloated cartoon interface. I'm a *nix user, too, and I can recommend Individual.net ( http://news.individual.net/ ). It's is the follow-on/re-incarnation of the free news.cis.dfn.de. It costs 10 Euro per year and it's well worth it. I used the online sign-up and paid via the FirstgGate ( http://firstgate.com/EU/en/info.html ) service they use. Now, if only slrn could score on top-posters. sigh... HTH Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | OS/2 __ 38.24N 104.55W | config.com | DM78rf | SK Article: 100942 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Message-ID: <4390B379.3050604@worldnet.att.net> From: Al Schapira Subject: FS: Original old boatanchor manuals: TMC, Halli, National, Hickok, Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:49:18 GMT The following are all original manuals, not copies. Prices include postage to a US address. Thanks for looking. -Al Schapira, KC2HRH, a.d.schapira@worldnet.att.net =========================================================== TMC GPR-92 bulletin: Technical Material Corporation Technical Bulletin No. 3006, "General Purpose Receiver TMC Model GPR-92", 1963, includes picture, specs and response curves. Three 8 1/2 x 11 foldout sheets, punched 3 hole. Good. $5. See http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/Manuals/TMC-GPR-92.jpg Halli SR-160 manual: Hallicrafters "Operating and Service Instructions, Communications Transceiver Model SR-160", 8 1/2 x 11, 30 pgs + schematic. Minor stains on front cover, cover separated at staples, otherwise good. $8. See http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/Manuals/Hali-SR-160_1.jpg http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/Manuals/Hali-SR-160_2.jpg National Radio Company, brochure, includes pictures, descriptions and specifications for HRO-60, NC-400, NC-303, NC-270, NC-190, NC-155, NC-105, NC-60 Special, VFO-62. Inserts for NC-121, NC-140, NCX-3, and price list (September, 3, 1963). 8 1/2 x 11, very Good. $5. See http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/Manuals/National_1.jpg http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/Manuals/National_2.jpg http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/Manuals/National_3.jpg Hickok 610A Signal Generator manual: "Operating Instructions for Universal Television Alignment Signal Generator Model 610A", 1948, 8 1/2 x 11, 26 pgs. Spline slightly worn, otherwise good. $6. See http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/Manuals/Hickok-610A_1.jpg http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/Manuals/Hickok-610A_2.jpg Simpson 260 VOM manuals: Simpson VOM model 260 Series III, 5 x 7, 36 pgs Simpson VOM model 260 Series 5 and 5M, 5 x 7, 40 pgs Both for $5, See http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/Manuals/Simpson-260-35.jpg Tektronix P6045 Probe Instruction Manual, 070-0597-00, 8 1/2 x 11, approx 40 pgs, Good. $6 See http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/Manuals/Tek-P6045.jpg Article: 100943 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Message-ID: <4391587E.C1337B2B@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: getting bit by my FT-101EE chassis References: <1133329679.320807.49090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1133412734.124681.311830@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <438E9978.9090709@yahoo.com> <276dnQbYC_RplBLeRVn-tw@rcn.net> <438F1465.30803@yahoo.com> <438FCD06.67C24C1D@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 08:34:24 GMT Chuck Harris wrote: > > Hi Michael, > > Yep, that is yet another good example of why you shouldn't break the rules. > > I could write all week, and still not cover all of the stupid dangerous things > that have happened with ground failures and grounding errors. The NEC > is the result of 100 years of experience with power distribution, and use. > Their collective authors have seen some of the most bizarre failures, and the > code has been designed to help prevent these types of failures. > > It is rather unsettling to have a line cord catch fire in the bedroom > when your wife puts a piece of toast in the toaster oven in the kitchen. > > And we haven't even broached the subject of what happens when your antenna > gets hit by lightning, and you have invited the ground currents into your > neutral circuits! > > In case anyone thinks that losing the connection to the center tap (neutral) > at the pole pig is an unlikely problem. Bear in mind that virtually all > of these connections are to aluminum wire. The power companies make their > own rules. They don't have to follow NEC, they have their own code. > When they started using aluminum wire exclusively in the '60s, > they didn't think about the corrosion and cold flowing characteristics of > aluminum. The power companies use aluminum exclusively for all of the wiring > on their side because aluminum has the highest conductivity per pound, and per > dollar, of any known material. > > After they gained experience with aluminum, and knew all about its problems, > I bet you think they went out, and upgraded all of the older connections, > right? Nope! They left them alone. Power companies are profit driven, they > didn't want to have to explain to their share holders why they would have to > shoulder a billion dollar loss to fix a problem of the power company's making. > So, they only fix the problem when *you* discover it. > > -Chuck After the hurricanes last year her in Florida they finally went through the whole subdivision and replaced every splice in the secondaries, as well as the 7200 volt primaries. I found a number of them on the ground and it was amazing that I even had electricity. Between the corrosion and the thermal expansion you could pull strands out of the crimps. After they finished my line voltage went up 10 volts, and is a lot more stable. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 100944 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Henry Kiefer" References: Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC, but how do y'all read these news groups? Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 12:25:41 +0100 Message-ID: <439182de$0$20842$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net> I used news.cis.dfn.de a while but changed to arcor-news later because of the now charging at news.cis.dfn.de Arcor is still free and fast, no reliable problems. You must have a Arcor login but this is even a free mail-account. If you like I can you send instructions where. I don't know it just if the head. Maybe they filter not-german clients out via your IP-address. But why not give it a try? Sent via Arcor - Henry > So, you being a *nix user, I can't see you getting excited about doing > usenet 'text work' with a bloated cartoon interface. I'm a *nix user, > too, and I can recommend Individual.net ( http://news.individual.net/ ). > It's is the follow-on/re-incarnation of the free news.cis.dfn.de. It > costs 10 Euro per year and it's well worth it. I used the online sign-up > and paid via the FirstgGate ( http://firstgate.com/EU/en/info.html ) > service they use. > > Now, if only slrn could score on top-posters. sigh... > > HTH > Jonesy > -- > Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux > Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | OS/2 __ > 38.24N 104.55W | config.com | DM78rf | SK Article: 100945 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Caveat Lector" Subject: BoatAnchor Mueseum Wow Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 07:41:06 -0800 CREST RADIO MUSEUM El Cajon, California 92021 Pat Bunsold WA6MHZ, Curator ARRL San Diego Section Manager Featuring almost 600 vintage Amateur, CB, Broadcast and Shortwave radios with focus on the History of 2 Meters URL: http://members.cox.net/wa6mhz/ -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! Article: 100946 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Al Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC, but how do y'all read these news groups? References: <439182de$0$20842$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 16:58:23 GMT In article <439182de$0$20842$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net>, "Henry Kiefer" wrote: > I used news.cis.dfn.de a while but changed to arcor-news later because of > the now charging at news.cis.dfn.de > Arcor is still free and fast, no reliable problems. You must have a Arcor > login but this is even a free mail-account. If you like I can you send > instructions where. I don't know it just if the head. > Maybe they filter not-german clients out via your IP-address. But why not > give it a try? > > Sent via Arcor - > Henry > > > > So, you being a *nix user, I can't see you getting excited about doing > > usenet 'text work' with a bloated cartoon interface. I'm a *nix user, > > too, and I can recommend Individual.net ( http://news.individual.net/ ). > > It's is the follow-on/re-incarnation of the free news.cis.dfn.de. It > > costs 10 Euro per year and it's well worth it. I used the online sign-up > > and paid via the FirstgGate ( http://firstgate.com/EU/en/info.html ) > > service they use. > > > > Now, if only slrn could score on top-posters. sigh... > > > > HTH > > Jonesy > > -- > > Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux > > Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | OS/2 __ > > 38.24N 104.55W | config.com | DM78rf | SK > > I have used the Google newsgroups on occasion. All you need is a browser. I don't care for the interface though. Al Article: 100947 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Henry Kiefer" References: <439182de$0$20842$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net> Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC, but how do y'all read these news groups? Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 20:22:09 +0100 Message-ID: <4391f3de$0$20858$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net> Google interface is nice but overloaded. I prefer to offline action what is not possible with Google. - Henry "Al" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:no.spam-FAB984.11582403122005@news.verizon.net... > In article <439182de$0$20842$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net>, > "Henry Kiefer" wrote: > > > I used news.cis.dfn.de a while but changed to arcor-news later because of > > the now charging at news.cis.dfn.de > > Arcor is still free and fast, no reliable problems. You must have a Arcor > > login but this is even a free mail-account. If you like I can you send > > instructions where. I don't know it just if the head. > > Maybe they filter not-german clients out via your IP-address. But why not > > give it a try? > > > > Sent via Arcor - > > Henry > > > > > > > So, you being a *nix user, I can't see you getting excited about doing > > > usenet 'text work' with a bloated cartoon interface. I'm a *nix user, > > > too, and I can recommend Individual.net ( http://news.individual.net/ ). > > > It's is the follow-on/re-incarnation of the free news.cis.dfn.de. It > > > costs 10 Euro per year and it's well worth it. I used the online sign-up > > > and paid via the FirstgGate ( http://firstgate.com/EU/en/info.html ) > > > service they use. > > > > > > Now, if only slrn could score on top-posters. sigh... > > > > > > HTH > > > Jonesy > > > -- > > > Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux > > > Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | OS/2 __ > > > 38.24N 104.55W | config.com | DM78rf | SK > > > > > > I have used the Google newsgroups on occasion. All you need is a > browser. I don't care for the interface though. > > Al Article: 100948 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: ROBCO@OPTONLINE.NET Subject: HEATHKIT SB-303 PARTS Message-ID: Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 05:47:34 -0500 Have some parts from an SB-303...most of the controls....the power transformer, s-meter,some of the boards, and the cabinet...that's probably about all that's left.. ...e-mail me for your wants please at robco@optonline.net 73....Bob Article: 100949 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "David Austerman" Subject: WTB: pilot light jewel lenses(plastic version) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 17:25:20 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <8e6320e37defbc0485ce0587e99b3267.32924@mygate.mailgate.org> Hi, looking for some of the small standard size (like 6-volt panel-mount bayonet bulb holder) pilot light jewel type lens covers. Looking for all-plastic types in clear, white, orange, and yellow. Some versions are opaque, some totally clear and some have a "fluting" look on the inside. Any will work. I appreciate anybody letting me buy some of these out there that might be extra and getting dusty. thanks/73, dave austerman, n5wnm, oklahoma city,ok -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Article: 100950 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: w4idx@earthlink.net (David Robbins) Subject: ARRL Handbooks FS Message-ID: <43934b26.3082791@news.east.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 20:03:57 GMT Selling my personal collection of ARRL Radio Handbooks. These are all in excellent condition. Some of the best you will find. All prices plus shipping. 1934 Excellent condition. Hardbound. Price $40 1937 Excellent condition. Top and bottom of binding taped, but not torn. Don't know why it was taped. It looks almost mint otherwise. Price $35 1942 Special Defense Edition in Mint condition. Price $35 1944 Excellent condition. Small 1" tear in top cover otherwise in near mint condition. Price $30 1944 Excellent condition. Price $30. 1950 Very Good Condition. Price $20 1951 Excellent condition. Price $20 1953 Excellent condition. Price $20 1955 Excellent condition. Price $20 1957 Excellent condition. Near Mint. Price $20 1961 Mint. Price $20 ALL PRICES PLUS SHIPPING FROM 27587. WILL SELL THE ENTIRE LOT FOR $275 SHIPPED BOOK RATE US MAIL Thanks, David, W4IDX Article: 100951 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "David J Windisch" Subject: FS: Meissner Signal Shifter variable frequency exciter Message-ID: Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 20:58:57 GMT FS: Meissner Signal Shifter variable frequency exciter in good working and physical condition; 3.4-30 MHz, copy of book. 4-6W out; tuning eye good. $75 you pay shipping; $100 I ship conus gnd. Tks for reading. 73 Dave N3HE Article: 100952 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: nanu Subject: FA: Collins 51S-1 Receiver in Scrap Condition Message-ID: Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 22:58:50 GMT Hello All, There is a Collins Radio 51S-1 receiver in scrap condition available on eBay right now. This chassis contains lots of useful parts for Collins enthusiasts. In case anyone is interested, it is item # 5836956326 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5836956326&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 Thanks. Nanu Article: 100953 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Doc" Subject: Re: ARRL Handbooks FS Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 19:38:25 -0500 Message-ID: References: <43934b26.3082791@news.east.earthlink.net> I wouldn't wast a dime on anything that had "ARRL" printed on it. FCC & ARRL - Partners in the Culture of Corruption Article: 100954 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 22:31:35 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: WTB:2 tubes 6HU8 and 6AK8 References: <8cydnQNveZO7OQ7enZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@comcast.com> Message-ID: <58efa$4393a689$4232bdf1$11454@COQUI.NET> aa8wl wrote: > Hy guy, I picked up an older receiver and it needs these 2 tubes so > check you shelves and let me know if you have these 2 tubes. ( 6HU8 ans > 6AK8 ) Please send details if you have any. Thanks in advance. 73' de > aa8wl These are more commonly found wearing their European numbers: 6HU8 = ELL80 6AK8 = EABC80 GL, Bill Article: 100955 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Gary at McDonough Ga Subject: Re: ARRL Handbooks FS References: <43934b26.3082791@news.east.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 03:19:57 -0500 Might suggest you try listing them on e-bay for sale. You can try the whole lot but most likely will have to end up breaking them up and selling them individually. Just a thought and opinion. David Robbins wrote: > Selling my personal collection of ARRL Radio Handbooks. These are all > in excellent condition. Some of the best you will find. All prices > plus shipping. > > > > 1934 Excellent condition. Hardbound. Price $40 > > 1937 Excellent condition. Top and bottom of binding taped, but not > torn. Don't know why it was taped. It looks almost mint otherwise. > Price $35 > > 1942 Special Defense Edition in Mint condition. Price $35 > > 1944 Excellent condition. Small 1" tear in top cover otherwise in > near mint condition. Price $30 > > 1944 Excellent condition. Price $30. > > 1950 Very Good Condition. Price $20 > > 1951 Excellent condition. Price $20 > > 1953 Excellent condition. Price $20 > > 1955 Excellent condition. Price $20 > > 1957 Excellent condition. Near Mint. Price $20 > > 1961 Mint. Price $20 > > ALL PRICES PLUS SHIPPING FROM 27587. > > WILL SELL THE ENTIRE LOT FOR $275 SHIPPED BOOK RATE US MAIL > > Thanks, > > David, > W4IDX Article: 100956 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Ken Kuzma" Subject: FS:WRL Galaxy stuff Message-ID: Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 12:14:36 GMT Galaxy V 110.00 Galaxy V MkII 90.00 Galaxy Speaker Cabinet 20.00 Galaxy Deluxe Console 35.00 Galaxy Remote VFO 50.00 Also have a brand new set of knobs for a Galaxy GT-550 for 15.00 All items are plus shipping from zip 33813. Actual shipping fee will be charged / no packing fees Article: 100957 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Jim Barnard" Subject: Kenwood R5000 Manual Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 08:50:02 -0500 Message-ID: I am looking for a .pdf copy of the Kenwood R5000 service manual. Does anyone have one available? I have a dead radio on the way and do not know what is in store when it arrvies. Please contact me at service@transistor-repairs.com. Thanks, Jim Article: 100958 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: William Mutch Subject: curing chirp ?? Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 08:57:06 -0500 Message-ID: The anonymous homebrew xmtr I picked up at the AWA meet last spring has finally make its first QSO, heard 589 in Texas by KE5HQ on 40 CW, but he reports what I sort of knew anyway...the rig has a chirp. The oscillator is an electron coupled 12BY7, crystal controlled. What are the cures for chirp ?? Slightly detune the buffer ?? add caps to the power supply. Trying the easiest things first, how should I proceed ?? Article: 100959 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 10:00:24 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: curing chirp ?? References: Message-ID: <4e17e$439447fa$4232bd3d$18064@COQUI.NET> William Mutch wrote: > The anonymous homebrew xmtr I picked up at the AWA meet last > spring has finally make its first QSO, heard 589 in Texas by KE5HQ on 40 > CW, but he reports what I sort of knew anyway...the rig has a chirp. The > oscillator is an electron coupled 12BY7, crystal controlled. What are > the cures for chirp ?? Slightly detune the buffer ?? add caps to the > power supply. Trying the easiest things first, how should I proceed ?? The easiest first check is to try another crystal. -Bill Article: 100960 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "YT" References: Subject: Re: curing chirp ?? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 14:15:52 GMT Is it a chirp ( as in frequency change) or a click ( as in transients caused by keying )? Does the power supply sag at all under load? Regulating the screen on the 12BYZ may help considerbly. "William Mutch" wrote in message news:MPG.1dfe113f30421b05989857@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu... > > The anonymous homebrew xmtr I picked up at the AWA meet last > spring has finally make its first QSO, heard 589 in Texas by KE5HQ on 40 > CW, but he reports what I sort of knew anyway...the rig has a chirp. The > oscillator is an electron coupled 12BY7, crystal controlled. What are > the cures for chirp ?? Slightly detune the buffer ?? add caps to the > power supply. Trying the easiest things first, how should I proceed ?? Article: 100961 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: Kenwood R5000 Manual Message-ID: <6xYkf.8637$SJ6.1226@fe04.lga> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 08:54:57 -0600 "Jim Barnard" wrote in message news:dn1gi8$1t73$1@news3.infoave.net... >I am looking for a .pdf copy of the Kenwood R5000 service manual. Does >anyone have one available? I have a dead radio on the way and do not know >what is in store when it arrvies. Please contact me at >service@transistor-repairs.com. > > Thanks, Jim > http://cgi.ebay.com/Kenwood-R-5000-User-Service-Manual-w-Schematics-CD_W0QQitemZ5837293939QQcategoryZ15050QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/KENWOOD-R-5000-RECEIVER-SERVICE-MANUAL-ON-CD-REF-213_W0QQitemZ5836703940QQcategoryZ15050QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 100962 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: William Mutch Subject: Re: curing chirp ?? Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 12:27:15 -0500 Message-ID: References: In article , YTay@kaboom.net says... > > Is it a chirp ( as in frequency change) or a click ( as in transients caused > by keying )? > chirp > Does the power supply sag at all under load? Regulating the screen on > the 12BYZ may help considerbly. > It's already regulared with a VR150 > > > > > "William Mutch" wrote in message > news:MPG.1dfe113f30421b05989857@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu... > > > > The anonymous homebrew xmtr I picked up at the AWA meet last > > spring has finally make its first QSO, heard 589 in Texas by KE5HQ on 40 > > CW, but he reports what I sort of knew anyway...the rig has a chirp. The > > oscillator is an electron coupled 12BY7, crystal controlled. What are > > the cures for chirp ?? Slightly detune the buffer ?? add caps to the > > power supply. Trying the easiest things first, how should I proceed ?? > > > Article: 100963 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: William Mutch Subject: Re: curing chirp ?? Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 12:28:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4e17e$439447fa$4232bd3d$18064@COQUI.NET> In article <4e17e$439447fa$4232bd3d$18064@COQUI.NET>, exray@coqui.net says... > William Mutch wrote: > > The anonymous homebrew xmtr I picked up at the AWA meet last > > spring has finally make its first QSO, heard 589 in Texas by KE5HQ on 40 > > CW, but he reports what I sort of knew anyway...the rig has a chirp. The > > oscillator is an electron coupled 12BY7, crystal controlled. What are > > the cures for chirp ?? Slightly detune the buffer ?? add caps to the > > power supply. Trying the easiest things first, how should I proceed ?? > > The easiest first check is to try another crystal. > This is the only xtal I have for 40 meters. I can (and will) try it with others on 80 CW. > -Bill > Article: 100964 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Reg Edwards" Subject: Re: curing chirp ?? Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 18:23:41 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: The power amplifier, when keyed, causes the main HT supply volts to change at a rate which depends on the size of the HT smoothing capacitors. This change in HT volts also affects the DC supply to the oscillator tube which causes the frequency to change in sympathy with volts. Most tube oscillators change frequency with supply volts. So stabilise the DC supply voltages to the xtl oscillator - especially the screen-grid DC volts. It won't matter if the DC supply volts are increased by 15 or 20 percent in the process. Use a gas-filled voltage stabiliser tube if you can find and fit one. They used to be available in voltages from 50, 75, 90 to 150 volts. But a few transistors could do the job. Adding caps to the power supply will merely slow down the chirp and perhaps make it more noticeable. If the DC supply to the oscillator is already stabilised then there may be a small amount of RF feedback from buffer or power amplifier to the oscillator. In which case you have a much more complicated problem to solve. ---- Reg, G4FGQ Article: 100965 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Steve Nosko" Subject: Re: curing chirp ?? Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:16:37 -0600 Message-ID: References: <4e17e$439447fa$4232bd3d$18064@COQUI.NET> One more thing. If the crystal is driven heavily, it heats up and chirps. Reducing the amount of feedback in the oscillator can help, but can be tricky as well. No suggestions where to proceed without knowing the circuit. 73, Steve K9DCI "Bill" wrote in message news:4e17e$439447fa$4232bd3d$18064@COQUI.NET... > William Mutch wrote: > > The anonymous homebrew xmtr I picked up at the AWA meet last > > spring has finally make its first QSO, heard 589 in Texas by KE5HQ on 40 > > CW, but he reports what I sort of knew anyway...the rig has a chirp. The > > oscillator is an electron coupled 12BY7, crystal controlled. What are > > the cures for chirp ?? Slightly detune the buffer ?? add caps to the > > power supply. Trying the easiest things first, how should I proceed ?? > > The easiest first check is to try another crystal. > > -Bill Article: 100966 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "M. J. Powell" Subject: Re: curing chirp ?? Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 15:49:50 +0000 Message-ID: References: In message , William Mutch writes > > The anonymous homebrew xmtr I picked up at the AWA meet last >spring has finally make its first QSO, heard 589 in Texas by KE5HQ on 40 >CW, but he reports what I sort of knew anyway...the rig has a chirp. The >oscillator is an electron coupled 12BY7, crystal controlled. What are >the cures for chirp ?? Slightly detune the buffer ?? add caps to the >power supply. Trying the easiest things first, how should I proceed ?? My DX100 had a bad chirp. Cured by cleaning the key contacts with fine emery paper. Mike G3IJE -- M.J.Powell Article: 100967 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: ve3ab@personainternet.com (Earl Andrews) Subject: HW22 heath circular dial FS cheap & Accu Keyer Board SX130manual wtd Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 21:23:51 GMT Message-ID: <4394ae66.257241277@news.personainternet.com> Found this item in my junk box today. No use to me as I dont own an hw22. Anyone want this? Ill send it for the cost of postage plus $2.00-- I also have a circuit board with components on it for the ACCU KEYER. It was working in the mid 80s when I was using it. I havent used it. Ill clean the dust off it!! If anyone interested ..cost of postage plus $2.00. --Iam trying to downsize! Also looking for a copy of a manual for a Haliccrafters SX130 rcvr. Id be willing to pay the photocopy costs and the mailing costs plus $10.00 - My uncle gave me this rcvr but some of the tubes are missing. 73 Earl VE3AB Article: 100968 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Antonio Vernucci" References: <8cydnQNveZO7OQ7enZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: WTB:2 tubes 6HU8 and 6AK8 Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 00:00:10 +0100 Message-ID: <4394c67d$0$7316$4fafbaef@reader4.news.tin.it> > Hy guy, I picked up an older receiver and it needs these 2 tubes so=20 > check you shelves and let me know if you have these 2 tubes. ( 6HU8 = ans=20 > 6AK8 ) Please send details if you have any. Thanks in advance. 73' de = =20 > aa8wl One of the cheapest and most reliable places where you can buy tubes is = ESRC in Florida http://home.att.net/~esrc/esrcmain.html The 6HU8=3DELL80 is an hard to find tube even in Europe. They sell it at = 35$. The 6AK8=3DEABC80 is common, and costs 5$. But you can spare two bucks = buying the 6T8 which is fully equivalent to the 6AK8. 73 Tony, I0JX Article: 100969 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "COLIN LAMB" References: Subject: Re: curing chirp ?? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 01:52:30 GMT In the old days, chirp was a favorite discussion topic. You have been given a number of ideas, so here are a few more. When the feedback capacitor dielectric heats up, the frequency can change. Using an air dielectric is best, but a silver mica or NP0 capacitors usually work. If you do not want to regulate the screen voltage on the oscillator, you can adjust it until you find the "sweet" spot, which will reduce drift. You need a tapped resistor or rheostat to do that. Crystal oscillators are supposed to be simple, so the cure should be simple, too. Something is heating up causing a frequency change when you key it. Make sure you are not overloading your receiver, causing a phantom chirp (only one can hear it is you). 73, Colin K7FM Article: 100970 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Joe" References: <8e6320e37defbc0485ce0587e99b3267.32924@mygate.mailgate.org> Subject: Re: pilot light jewel lenses(plastic version) Message-ID: <9h8lf.3832$Yh2.168@trndny01> Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 04:17:09 GMT Mojo has them http://www.mojomusicalsupply.com/cgi-bin/mojotone/9911201.html -Joe "David Austerman" wrote in message news:8e6320e37defbc0485ce0587e99b3267.32924@mygate.mailgate.org... > Hi, looking for some of the small standard size (like 6-volt panel-mount > bayonet bulb holder) pilot light jewel type lens covers. Looking for > all-plastic types in clear, white, orange, and yellow. Some versions are > opaque, some totally clear and some have a "fluting" look on the inside. > Any will work. I appreciate anybody letting me buy some of these out > there that might be extra and getting dusty. thanks/73, dave austerman, > n5wnm, oklahoma city,ok > > > -- > Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Article: 100971 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Joe" Subject: Need EM80(eye) and 6AK8 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 04:33:14 GMT I need an EM80 "eye" for my and a 6AK8/ EABC80 For my EMUD Senior 60 -Joe NOSPAM Article: 100972 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Lynn Coffelt" Subject: Re: curing chirp ?? (why). Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 22:24:42 -0800 Message-ID: References: <4394B68D.CB4A81FF@shaw.ca> "Irv Finkleman" wrote in message news:4394B68D.CB4A81FF@shaw.ca... > William Mutch wrote: > > > > The anonymous homebrew xmtr I picked up at the AWA meet last > > spring has finally make its first QSO, heard 589 in Texas by KE5HQ on 40 > > CW, but he reports what I sort of knew anyway...the rig has a chirp. The > > oscillator is an electron coupled 12BY7, crystal controlled. What are > > the cures for chirp ?? Slightly detune the buffer ?? add caps to the > > power supply. Trying the easiest things first, how should I proceed ?? > > I always liked the sound of a chirpy signal. It never bothered me, > and when you hear one now you know there's a real ham behind the key! > > Irv VE6BP Chirps, clicks and fists were the identification marks of the operator. I, for one, always admired the variance of sounds from one rig to another. For example, at one time in history, the DX-100 was unmistakable, and if the operator was using a straight key, one could call him by name immediately. If your report was a "c" (534C) for example, you knew that you had more than a "c" (chirp), but probably a "yoop", and were probably using a rehashed command set or a liaison rig...... BC-459, BC-191 or BC-375 maybe. BC-375 using a 28 volt dynamotor on 24 volts of fading automobile batteries required two hands at the receiving end, and heaven help him if he needed a pencil as well to copy! Lynn, W7LTQ..... long live the chirp! Article: 100973 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Bob W7AVK Subject: Filters Message-ID: Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 07:34:44 -0800 For Sale - New Old Stock optional filters for several older Yaesu Rigs. $42 each which includes postage within the USA. Never installed, in original boxes and packing. Available are: XF-8.2M-501-01 CW 500 hz 8 pole filter for 8.2 Mhz IF, Fox Tango. XF-8.2M-601-01 CW 600 hz 8 pole filter for 8.2 Mhz IF, Fox Tango. XF-8.9HSN SSB Narrow, 1,900 hz, 8 pole for 8.9 mhz XF-8.9HSW SSB wide, 2,800 hz, 8 pole for 8.9 mhz XF-455C CW 500 hz for 455 khz. 73 Bob W7AVK