Article: 101849 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Antonio Vernucci" References: <44149616$0$36939$4fafbaef@reader3.news.tin.it> <8pa912dbicisbjsim2hu120djr0803i485@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Help for BC-348-R Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 00:23:06 +0100 Message-ID: <4414ad5c$0$18284$4fafbaef@reader1.news.tin.it> > The BC-348-R manual is on BAMA at - Trying BAMA was the first thing I did, but unfortunately that manual if = for BC-448s J, N, Q, which have a significantly different diagram from = the R version 73 Tony I0JX Article: 101850 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Antonio Vernucci" Subject: Collins CW filter Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:38:29 +0100 Message-ID: <4414bf07$0$18289$4fafbaef@reader1.news.tin.it> A 200-Hz crystal filter for the Collins S-line went up to 300$ (see = http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=3DADME:B:WNA:US:= 112&item=3D5874468544&id=3D&sasel=3D) 300$ is just the price that Rockwell today quotes for reproducing any = Collins S-line mechanical filter (though I am not sure whether that = price also applies to the crystal filter). The e-bay madness is partly caused by people not having yet appreciated = that bidding days before bid end does nothing else that raising price. = Why? Simple, because it is very common to run into one of those guys = that want to appear as the high bidder at all times. You bid, and he = will place incremental bids until he gets above you. You bid again and = he will again bid until he gets the high bidder. An endless loop. If everyone would only put an offer by the last half minute, prices = would get lower, on average. 73 Tony I0JX Article: 101851 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "DAVID STINSON" References: <44149616$0$36939$4fafbaef@reader3.news.tin.it> Subject: Re: Help for BC-348-R Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:12:10 GMT "Antonio Vernucci" wrote in message news:44149616$0$36939$4fafbaef@reader3.news.tin.it... Can anyone help me to get a copy of the BC-348R schematic diagram? (or almost identical versions, i.e. BC-348H, BC-348-K, BC-348-L). You can order a very good copy at a reasonable price from: Robert Downs Article: 101852 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Mike" Subject: FS: Icom IC-761 HF transceiver..... Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:11:20 -0600 Message-ID: FS: Once again I have my Icom IC-761 HF transceiver for sale. The previous buyer dropped off the end of the earth. It was sold but not a word from the buyer since then. The radio is extremely nice, works great, I've owned it a long time (6 years) and never had any problem with it. Includes owner manual, service manual, power cord and mike. I'll send pix to serous buyers. $585.00 Mike, (979) 696-4400. Article: 101853 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Mike" Subject: FS: Collins KWM-2... Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:19:07 -0600 Message-ID: FS: Collins KWM-2 transceiver in excellent condition. Had it sold but buyer didn't follow through. It has been in use on 75 meters (within the last week) with 130 watts out, excellent signal reports and it has been tuned up on the other bands all the way up to 10 meters where it puts out 110+ watts into a Bird wattmeter and dummyload. Front panel is 9.5+ (knobs too). No mods done to chassis. Don't have a power supply but will throw in a Heath HP-23 supply the would run it if you put the correct plug on it. The Heat supply is as-is, unchecked. KWM-2 cabinet has some minor scratches but overall looks very good. Manual included. u-ship, I box. $610. Mike, 979-696-4400. Article: 101854 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "AAA RF Products" Subject: RF Connectors, Adapters & Cable Assemblies Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:25:37 -0800 For your free copy of our new catalog, please email sales@AAARFProducts.com or see www.aaarfproducts.com or call 949 481 3154 (San Clemente, CA) No minimum order. No handling charges. Article: 101855 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Heriberto" References: <44149616$0$36939$4fafbaef@reader3.news.tin.it> Subject: Re: Help for BC-348-R Message-ID: <4415bf63_1@x-privat.org> Date: 13 Mar 2006 19:52:19 +0100 The Following site may be useful for you http://hereford.ampr.org/history/bc-348.html#_Toc438558125 REgards Heriberto LU6DBU "Antonio Vernucci" escribió en el mensaje news:44149616$0$36939$4fafbaef@reader3.news.tin.it... Can anyone help me to get a copy of the BC-348R schematic diagram? (or almost identical versions, i.e. BC-348H, BC-348-K, BC-348-L). All the diagrams I found on the Internet are of models significantly different from the BC348-R. A scan would do, otherwise I will pay reprodruction and mailing expenses. Thanks and 73. Tony, I0JX Article: 101856 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Heriberto" References: <44149616$0$36939$4fafbaef@reader3.news.tin.it> Subject: Re: Help for BC-348-R Message-ID: <4415c00f_1@x-privat.org> Date: 13 Mar 2006 19:55:11 +0100 In this site a version of BC348-H.: http://www.jamminpower.com/PDF/BC-348-H.jsp Regards Heriberrto "Antonio Vernucci" escribió en el mensaje news:44149616$0$36939$4fafbaef@reader3.news.tin.it... Can anyone help me to get a copy of the BC-348R schematic diagram? (or almost identical versions, i.e. BC-348H, BC-348-K, BC-348-L). All the diagrams I found on the Internet are of models significantly different from the BC348-R. A scan would do, otherwise I will pay reprodruction and mailing expenses. Thanks and 73. Tony, I0JX Article: 101857 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Antonio Vernucci" References: <44149616$0$36939$4fafbaef@reader3.news.tin.it> <8pa912dbicisbjsim2hu120djr0803i485@4ax.com> <4414ad5c$0$18284$4fafbaef@reader1.news.tin.it> <86ia12d279i8mm7nivtbhgcg2c0hmm1aj9@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Help for BC-348-R Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:31:58 +0100 Message-ID: <4415c8b1$0$2270$4fafbaef@reader4.news.tin.it> > Well you haven't looked very hard because it is there at the > address I gave, being shown as the BC-224-F, K, BC-348-H, K, L & R > maintenance manual. The only difference I can see between the 'R' > and the rest of the versions is the front-end. It is large at 10MB > or I would have emailed it you. Thanks for info. I had not read the 00readme.txt.file and I was misled = by the file name. As a matter of fact, while the BC348 I-N-Q filename contains the string = BC-348, the BC348 H-K-L-R filename contains the string BC112, so I = thought it was something else Thanks again & 73 Tony I0JX Article: 101858 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Antonio Vernucci" References: <4414bf07$0$18289$4fafbaef@reader1.news.tin.it> Subject: Re: Collins CW filter Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:32:40 +0100 Message-ID: <4415c8da$0$2280$4fafbaef@reader4.news.tin.it> Thanks to everyone for the useful suggestions. Tony I0JX Article: 101859 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Antonio Vernucci" References: <4414bf07$0$18289$4fafbaef@reader1.news.tin.it> <4415c8da$0$2280$4fafbaef@reader4.news.tin.it> Subject: Re: Collins CW filter Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:35:23 +0100 Message-ID: <4415c97d$0$2277$4fafbaef@reader4.news.tin.it> Sorry for the mistake. My previous post was meant for another thread. Tony I0JX Article: 101860 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Antonio Vernucci" References: <44149616$0$36939$4fafbaef@reader3.news.tin.it> Subject: Re: Help for BC-348-R Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:36:34 +0100 Message-ID: <4415c9c3$0$36933$4fafbaef@reader3.news.tin.it> Thanks to everyone for the useful suggestions 73 Tony I0JX Article: 101861 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "David" Subject: Nice gallery of Yaesu/Sommerkamp FT/FR/FL boatanchors Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:18:49 GMT Kay Groß/DL5OAQ has created a very nice gallery of old yaesu/sommerkamp FT line, plus some FR/FL and Icom, too! Most have shots of the insides, too. Well done! http://www.pbase.com/dl5oaq -dave w5oc . Article: 101862 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Subject: Re: TS-2000 on MARS FREQ ?? From: "JB" <1963@cybertime.net> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:06:07 -0800 Message-ID: References: <6o7f0259ekvqh9c7ft1hshh22cekc8f9nn@4ax.com> I haven't tried it everywhere, but the tuner on the 2000 would never work on the 60 meter frequencies even into a dummy load and the factory knows of this. Most of these internal tuners have real limitations because of size restrictions. I have used an older LDG kit tuner in the mobile and found it superior to any of the internal tuners on various rigs. All tuners will have impossible or rediculous (undefined) matching situations though, requiring some kind of adjustment in the antenna system for any kind of efficiency. Jim http://infotech.awardspace.com "Jerry" wrote in message news:v24Of.966$l7.328@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > > "Scott" wrote in message > news:6o7f0259ekvqh9c7ft1hshh22cekc8f9nn@4ax.com... > >I use the 2000 on mars frequencies, but the internal ATU will not go > > there for me. I've heard rumors that some do, but mine dose not. I > > have a fairly early TSB-2000. I use a LDG AT-100 Pro tuner and it is > > great. Fully automatic, you don't even need to use the tune button. > > Just set the tuner to auto mode and key up. If SWR is over your preset > > value, the tuner automatically initiates a tune cycle and tunes in a > > half second or so. The radio automatically drops transmit power if the > > SWR is too high at start, and it goes back to your full power setting > > when the SWR comes down. Don't waste money on the LDG Kenwood > > interface, though, mine has never worked properly. > > callsign at arrl.net is good for email. > > > > Scott > > N2WMD > > I am also using the AT100 Pro. Excellent tuner! I also go outside the ham > bands with mine to authorized frequencies and it tunes easily to any of > them. I've never heard of one that had issues turning, or worked > improperly, on any HF frequency except 6 Meters. But then, that would be > stretching things a bit, eh, anyway! :) > > 73 > > Jerry > K4KWH > > www.qsl.net/k4kwh > > > > On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 16:04:39 GMT, "Heytubeguy" > > wrote: > > > >>Anyone using TS-2000 on MARS FREQ while using the internal ATT? > >>Advise your comments welcome. Tnx Joe > >> > > Article: 101863 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Paul P" Subject: HX-50 Linearizing the output of the 2nd mixer & Driver stages - Help Please. Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 03:36:18 GMT I found the 10m oscillator problem. The first plate choke needed more uh. I added an additional slug and the heterodyne oscillator sprung to life. I will later replace both slugs with a single one. BUT Now I am trying to linearize the output with in each band. While feeding in an external VFO frequency, with the heterodyne oscillator tube remove, one must sweep the band and insure it is with in 1db. I got all the bands except the 10m band. It is real tricky. I use both a scope and a VTVM with RF probe. I can see the VTVM drop while the amplitude of the wave form stays relatively unchanged. But the wave form changes shape. It goes ever so slightly triangular and the VTVM drops like a rock. I can see why the original owner put an external filter on the case. It must have been throwing out harmonics. I also found that it does not like 1k ohm carbon film resistors in the plate 300v B+ circuits (not the final). I replaced those with metal oxide. Anyone ever successfully accomplish this alignment step? And how did you do it? Please help before I pull out the rest of my hair. Thanks, Paul. Article: 101864 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:41:23 -0600 From: pkatz Subject: Radio-Mart at it again References: <44149616$0$36939$4fafbaef@reader3.news.tin.it> <8pa912dbicisbjsim2hu120djr0803i485@4ax.com> <4414ad5c$0$18284$4fafbaef@reader1.news.tin.it> <86ia12d279i8mm7nivtbhgcg2c0hmm1aj9@4ax.com> <4415c8b1$0$2270$4fafbaef@reader4.news.tin.it> Message-ID: <44164977$0$666$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org> Compare eBay auction # 5869180545 with # 5878603719 Article: 101865 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Doug Subject: Re: Clegg Question Message-ID: References: <%G%Pf.35677$_S7.19924@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> <1DdQf.24795$rL5.18126@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:04:15 GMT On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:42:53 GMT, "Carter, K8VT" wrote: >Dale Parfitt wrote: >> "Carter, K8VT" wrote in message >> news:Xu4Qf.57702$dW3.47161@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... >>> William Warren wrote: >>>> Carter, K8VT wrote: >>>>> I recently ran across a Clegg 22er am/fm. A web search turned up the >>>>> original Clegg 22er (AM only), the 22er II (?) --presumably also AM only >>>>> and a Clegg 22 FM. None of these seem to do both AM and FM. >>>>> >>>>> However, the one I have is marked "am/fm" and the front panel controls >>>>> seem to indicate it is capable of either. >>>>> >>>>> Is this somewhat scarce? Maybe a prototype? Any Clegg collectors out >>>>> there that might be interested (or are they-the collectors, that is- >>>>> pretty scarce?) >>>>> >>>>> 73, >>>>> Carter K8VT >>>> Carter, >>>> >>>> Towards the end of AM era, many VHF transceivers were converted to >>>> _transmit_ FM using varacter diodes. It worked surprisingly well, but >>>> required "slope detection" of the received signals, i.e., using an AM >>>> receiver to tune the FM signal onto the skirts of the IF filters, thus >>>> converting FM directly to AM. >>>> >>>> If your unit is a prototype, the receiver will probably have both product >>>> and ratio detectors, i.e., it will be a "true" FM receiver. If there's no >>>> FM receiver, I'd guess it's a homebrew conversion. >>>> >>>> FWIW. >>>> >>>> William >>>> >>> William, >>> Thanks for the thoughts... >>> >>> BTW, one thing I should have mentioned is that the factory silk screening >>> right on the front panel says "Clegg >>> 22'er AM/FM" so it seems unlikely that it is homebrew... and a web search >>> has, so far, not turned up anything with that name/labeling. >> >> I thought I knew Clegg/ Squires Sanders fairly well- but that is a new one >> to me. Never have seen it even mentioned. >> Do you have a manual? >> Dale W4OP >> >> >No, I'm sorry to say that I do not have the manual...and that is what >prompted this whole quest. When I went to do web research to find a >manual, nothing showed up. That's why I almost suspected a prototype or >possibly Clegg's last gasp--a rig that just barely got to market before >they went under??? > >Carter K8VT Hi Carter, As other posters have mentioned, a lot of the 22'ers went thru various homebrew conversion schemes to FM. Many were done rather professionally so it might be hard to tell if yours is factory original. Clegg had quite a few models after the 22 series. If my memory is right, Squire-Sanders bought Clegg but then the whole operation was sold to some outfit called "ISG (International Signal Group?) and the Squires-Sanders name was discontinued. I think Ed Clegg regained control of the ham product line from ISG and then later came out with the FM-27B, the first "all channel" FM transceiver. The FM-27B wasn't really synthesized but used a crystal mixing scheme. It was known for its terrible intermod performance and spur generation both on transmit and receive. I owned an FM-27B. The local joke about them was that you could key up about 6 repeaters at the same time. Clegg later broughtout his very fine FM-DX 2 meter FM rig but they were high priced arorund $650 for a synthesized single band rig. I don't think many were sold but a friend of mine bought one. Clegg ended its company days by selling repackaged and relabeled Midland VHF rigs such as the FM-28 and acting as a dealer for other equipment. I'm not sure but I think I read Ed Clegg's obituary in QST about 10 years ago. 73, Doug/WA1TUT Article: 101866 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Paul P" References: <8j6812p9cricvtejsqf7cj7hiv16uni6au@4ax.com> Subject: Re: WWII FT243 Crystal Manufacturers Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:26:19 GMT Look on this page http://pages.cthome.net/fwc/XTAL.HTM You will find them down the page. PO "Joe McElvenney" wrote in message news:bit8125m5iokpjjm7mnoq0icmadbof56ad@4ax.com... > Hi, > >>Yesterday I bought a 'BOX BX-49-A' (coil/crystal set for the >>BC-611 walkie-talkie) with a view to starting a crystal >>collection. It contained 24 FT243 rocks from eight different WWII >>manufacturers. Just to get an idea of the task ahead, has anyone >>compiled a list of these manufacturers from that period? > > Thank you to the individuals who have added to my list but, as > the following document shows, there were at least 130 companies > 'grinding away' back in 1943. It would seem that anyone who had a > garage and a drill press could get into the game. > > http://www.ieee-uffc.org/fc_history/bottom.html > > > 73 de Joe G3LLV Article: 101867 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "kh" Message-ID: <0QMXZWh9EdSr-pn2-XPVSdtnKXCdS@localhost> Subject: Re: How old are you? References: <1138669094.511626.286550@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: 14 Mar 2006 12:45:11 GMT On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 00:58:14 UTC, nc183d@aol.com wrote: > Just a question that has been rattling around in the gourd. What age > group are B/A enthusiast-type folks here on the Net? I know we have the > folks from when they (the B/A's) were the most active (and I'm talking > SX11 here), but I wonder if there's a large following of Boomers that > picked up on it too. I only say this because I don't see as many > 30's-40's-50's people at the Hamfests and other gatherings as I see my > elders (Gentlemen, all). So the question bubbles up outta the tar? How > old are the folks on rec.radio.amateur.boatanchor? > rgds, Mark S. > Just turned 59. First licensed in 1963. Novice about 8 months then took the general. First rig was a DX-60 and SX-101A. I had built a Knight R-55 but never got it working well enough for ham radio use. It was a sort-a OK, AM SWL radio. Gotta say that 75 watts CW, crystal controlled on 15 meters (this is in Hawaii) was the most fun of all. Used to work VK's, ZL's, and JA's in the afternoon. Kinda dropped out of ham radio over the years, what with computers, programming in assembler and PL/I. Now restoring a Signal/One CX7A as well as other boatanchors. I have a theory that these things are way under valued as collectables and relics of a never to be seen again, technological era. I know folk who collect civil war stuff. While that is "interesting", most of that can be made with blacksmith technology, because, that's how it was made. No one will ever make a Collins 75S-1 again. Ever. The technolgy doesn't exist any more. I've bought a couple items from list members, Collins. Good folks to deal with. For a number of reasons, health, miserable employers, some poor life choices on my part, I don't have a lot of spare cash but what I have, I've been investing in boatanchors. The weird thing about the 75S-1 is that it looks modern, sorta. You can tell that it's not a SX-28 or 75A-1 or NC-188. If I had the cash, I'd buy every 75S-1 I could. It's right at that cusp where they still used vacuum tubes but wanted to build smallish radios. Adopted a SX-100 from a fellow who threatened to send it to the landfill. If he had only known to put a red dropcloth behind it, he could-a sold it for $1,600. I just built the transmitter half of a PIXIE2 and plan to use it with an SB-303. Maybe get a WA6OTP PTO kit and use it with the SB-303. What fun that would be. I built the PIXIE2 transmitter into a mini-DX-60. I submitted the pictures to eham but they haven't put them up yet. You can preview this at www.kiyoinc.com/dx60.htm Let me know what you think. It's just a fun project. I think of the SB-303 as another landmark piece of technology history. Solid state but not digital. 100% analog circuitry pushed to the limit to get the stability and frequency readout. In the full range of history, there's an incredibly brief period when those things made sense. After about 1970, 1975, it's digital. Before 1955, 1960, maybe, the look was completely different. I had a page up on Heathstuff but took it down for re-hosting. I've been looking at the DVFO project sites and wonder why no one has set up one of those as a "all-bander" for S-Lines. Program the readout for the Collins 1st IF offset and 200 kHz steps. Similarly, the Ten-Tec 1284, can it be that hard to program the PIC for 100/1,000 Hz steps? Anyone have a PIC de-compiler? What a nice little receiver it would make. de ah6gi/4 Article: 101868 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Cal" Subject: When did Kenwoods etc become "boatanchors"? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:55:22 -0600 Message-ID: <121dq1q29s4c504@corp.supernews.com> Kenwoods, Yaesus, Icoms, Sonys...sheesh! Don't you guys with your modern rice boxes have plenty of other forums to fill up? I know you'd like to think your stuff is "classic" but it isn't and doesn't belong here. Article: 101869 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "YT" References: <121dq1q29s4c504@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: When did Kenwoods etc become "boatanchors"? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:32:55 GMT Yes, my 35 year old Yaesu 570 with nothing but tubes is most certainly classic but indeed it is not a BoatAnchor by our unwritten definition. At least for now. But as the elmers pass on and the next generation of tube heads come up, they will make up their own definitions. Just human nature. "Cal" wrote in message news:121dq1q29s4c504@corp.supernews.com... > Kenwoods, Yaesus, Icoms, Sonys...sheesh! > Don't you guys with your modern rice boxes have plenty of other forums to > fill up? I know you'd like to think your stuff is "classic" but it isn't > and doesn't belong here. > > Article: 101870 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Carter, K8VT" Subject: Re: Clegg Question References: <%G%Pf.35677$_S7.19924@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> <1DdQf.24795$rL5.18126@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:10:45 GMT Doug wrote: > On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:42:53 GMT, "Carter, K8VT" > wrote: > >> Dale Parfitt wrote: >>> "Carter, K8VT" wrote in message >>> news:Xu4Qf.57702$dW3.47161@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... >>>> William Warren wrote: >>>>> Carter, K8VT wrote: >>>>>> I recently ran across a Clegg 22er am/fm. A web search turned up the >>>>>> original Clegg 22er (AM only), the 22er II (?) --presumably also AM only >>>>>> and a Clegg 22 FM. None of these seem to do both AM and FM. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, the one I have is marked "am/fm" and the front panel controls >>>>>> seem to indicate it is capable of either. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this somewhat scarce? Maybe a prototype? Any Clegg collectors out >>>>>> there that might be interested (or are they-the collectors, that is- >>>>>> pretty scarce?) >>>>>> >>>>>> 73, >>>>>> Carter K8VT >>>>> Carter, >>>>> >>>>> Towards the end of AM era, many VHF transceivers were converted to >>>>> _transmit_ FM using varacter diodes. It worked surprisingly well, but >>>>> required "slope detection" of the received signals, i.e., using an AM >>>>> receiver to tune the FM signal onto the skirts of the IF filters, thus >>>>> converting FM directly to AM. >>>>> >>>>> If your unit is a prototype, the receiver will probably have both product >>>>> and ratio detectors, i.e., it will be a "true" FM receiver. If there's no >>>>> FM receiver, I'd guess it's a homebrew conversion. >>>>> >>>>> FWIW. >>>>> >>>>> William >>>>> >>>> William, >>>> Thanks for the thoughts... >>>> >>>> BTW, one thing I should have mentioned is that the factory silk screening >>>> right on the front panel says "Clegg >>>> 22'er AM/FM" so it seems unlikely that it is homebrew... and a web search >>>> has, so far, not turned up anything with that name/labeling. >>> I thought I knew Clegg/ Squires Sanders fairly well- but that is a new one >>> to me. Never have seen it even mentioned. >>> Do you have a manual? >>> Dale W4OP >>> >>> >> No, I'm sorry to say that I do not have the manual...and that is what >> prompted this whole quest. When I went to do web research to find a >> manual, nothing showed up. That's why I almost suspected a prototype or >> possibly Clegg's last gasp--a rig that just barely got to market before >> they went under??? >> >> Carter K8VT > > Hi Carter, > > As other posters have mentioned, a lot of the 22'ers went thru various > homebrew conversion schemes to FM. Many were done rather > professionally so it might be hard to tell if yours is factory > original. > > Clegg had quite a few models after the 22 series. > > If my memory is right, Squire-Sanders bought Clegg but then the whole > operation was sold to some outfit called "ISG (International Signal > Group?) and the Squires-Sanders name was discontinued. > I think Ed Clegg regained control of the ham product line from ISG and > then later came out with the FM-27B, the first "all channel" FM > transceiver. > > The FM-27B wasn't really synthesized but used a crystal mixing scheme. > It was known for its terrible intermod performance and spur generation > both on transmit and receive. I owned an FM-27B. The local joke about > them was that you could key up about 6 repeaters at the same time. > > Clegg later broughtout his very fine FM-DX 2 meter FM rig but they > were high priced arorund $650 for a synthesized single band rig. I > don't think many were sold but a friend of mine bought one. > > Clegg ended its company days by selling repackaged and relabeled > Midland VHF rigs such as the FM-28 and acting as a dealer for other > equipment. > > I'm not sure but I think I read Ed Clegg's obituary in QST about 10 > years ago. > > 73, > > Doug/WA1TUT Doug, Thanks for the interesting info! Some of the things I thought were mods (and that I unfortunately did not get in the picture) led me to believe they were mods until I looked more closely. For example, there were 2 female RCA jacks on the side of the radio, one on the bottom half of the case and one on the top half, connected by a 1 " long RCA jumper, for the speaker in the top half of the case. When I looked closely, I could see that the holes and slots in the case halves were die punched, not drilled or filed, and that the edges of the holes and slots were painted, indicating to me it was done in the factory (but as you point out, could have been done by a real "pro" at home). I did a search and found an Ed Clegg, about 80 years old and with a W2 Tech call living in Florida and was going to drop him a note. However, if you saw the obit, I'll save the stamp! :-) BTW, thanks to all who responded! As I just came across this incidentally in my travels and am not a Clegg collector, it looks like I may have to give the e-place a try to see if I can find it a new home. Thanks again to one and all! 73, Carter K8VT Article: 101871 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: jakdedert Subject: Re: White marker pens References: <1142353255.351368.92920@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <3wERf.1712$Tv6.1662@bignews5.bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:10:59 -0600 w4pqw@cox.net wrote: > Anyone ever heard of a fine tip white marking pen? I could use one for > lettering boatanchor panels etc..I have a big white felt tip marker > ,that won`t work for fine lettering... Tnx Harold > > They make 'paint' markers for touchup in many colors...check your local auto (or art) supply. jak Article: 101872 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) Subject: Re: Info for pre-war boatanchors Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:19:57 -0000 Message-ID: <121e5qtrvfi518a@corp.supernews.com> References: <1142053122.558738.189430@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> In article , Caveat Lector wrote: > >-- >CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "I think I am. Therefore I am, I think" Article: 101873 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: bruce Subject: FA: 2 Kenwood r-1000 shortwave receivers Message-ID: <8AJRf.5889$Jz4.4684@trnddc08> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:53:24 GMT Work, missing some cosmetic items, check here : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5880174790 Thanks, Bruce McFarland Article: 101874 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Bob Miller Subject: Re: When did Kenwoods etc become "boatanchors"? Message-ID: <60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com> References: <121dq1q29s4c504@corp.supernews.com> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 01:38:31 GMT On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:55:22 -0600, "Cal" wrote: >Kenwoods, Yaesus, Icoms, Sonys...sheesh! >Don't you guys with your modern rice boxes have plenty of other forums to >fill up? I know you'd like to think your stuff is "classic" but it isn't >and doesn't belong here. > Okay, what is a boat anchor? bob k5qwg Article: 101875 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Caveat Lector" References: <121dq1q29s4c504@corp.supernews.com> <60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com> Subject: Re: What's A Boat Anchor Message-ID: <9vKRf.12436$Uc2.7879@fed1read04> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:57:18 -0800 >From the mists of history and country legend: ORIGINS OF BOATANCHOR THREE VERSIONS -- Opinions From The Internet. Version I -- During World War II, Military Radio Techs used the term BoatAnchor as they struggled with the huge, heavy, electronic equipments of the day -- full of transformers, tubes etc. Also the US Navy frequently marked electronic gear with an anchor. After the war -- tons of the equipment appeared on the surplus market and was dubbed BoatAnchors due to the reasons above - one or both. Version II -- After WWII a national magazine editor answered a query "As what to do with an outdated heavy, large, surplus electronic instrument?" and answered "Tie a line to it and use it as a BoatAnchor" Version III To all those who expressed interest in the CQ magazine reference to boatanchors, I found it after only an hour or two of skimming. And I also found that some of my recollections were a bit hazy after all those years. The original letter to the editor (not to the "Surplus Editor" as I incorrectly recalled) appeared on page 16 of the October 1956 issue of CQ and was as follows: Gentlemen: I recently acquired a "Signal Corps Wireless Set. No. 19 MK II Transceiver." Are there schematics or conversion data for this rig? Any info will be appreciated. David J. Wilke W3LSG Pottstown, Pennsylvania The editor replied: The only conversion we seem to have on the files here at CQ calls for 100 feet of 1" Manila line, one end of which is to be tied securely around the MK II Transceiver. This then converts the unit into a fine anchor for a small boat. If any readers have better conversions we will be glad to hear about them. Ed. This letter apparently generated a lot of interest and in the February 1957 issue of CQ there was a follow-up from CQ's editor, another letter from W3LSG and several pictures. If I find the time I will scan them and post links to them here. The expression "boatanchor" may have originated earlier than 1956, as Doug Hensley pointed out. I found no earlier references in amateur radio than these CQ's, but there may be some. However, there was no reason to call amateur gear of that era "boatanchors" since almost all of it fit that description. It wasn't till later when smaller, lighter gear became popular that there was reason to categorize some gear as boatanchors. And it is also interesting to me that a word originally used to denote something of little value, useful only to anchor a small boat, has taken on a more affectionate meaning. We love our "boatanchors". Roger K6XQ -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "Bob Miller" wrote in message news:60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com... > On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:55:22 -0600, "Cal" > wrote: > >>Kenwoods, Yaesus, Icoms, Sonys...sheesh! >>Don't you guys with your modern rice boxes have plenty of other forums to >>fill up? I know you'd like to think your stuff is "classic" but it isn't >>and doesn't belong here. >> > > Okay, what is a boat anchor? > > bob > k5qwg Article: 101876 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Steve" References: <121dq1q29s4c504@corp.supernews.com> <60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com> <9vKRf.12436$Uc2.7879@fed1read04> Subject: Re: What's A Boat Anchor Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:31:54 -0800 Message-ID: <44177c9c$0$95980$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Roger, Thanks for posting this. I almost fell off of the couch I was laughing so hard! Personally, I think the definition of boatanchor will change with time. These days, I consider anything that uses tubes (but not CRT's) as boatanchors, including my Kenwood rigs that use tube drivers and finals. 30 years from now, any pre-Pentium PC will be considered a boatanchor, and highly collectable. Steve W6SSP "Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:9vKRf.12436$Uc2.7879@fed1read04... > From the mists of history and country legend: > ORIGINS OF BOATANCHOR > > THREE VERSIONS -- Opinions From The Internet. > > Version I -- During World War II, Military Radio Techs used the term > BoatAnchor as they struggled with the huge, heavy, electronic equipments > of the day -- full of transformers, tubes etc. Also the US Navy frequently > marked electronic gear with an anchor. After the war -- tons of the > equipment appeared on the surplus market and was dubbed BoatAnchors due to > the reasons above - one or both. > > Version II -- After WWII a national magazine editor answered a query "As > what to do with an outdated heavy, large, surplus electronic instrument?" > and answered "Tie a line to it and use it as a BoatAnchor" > > Version III To all those who expressed interest in the CQ magazine > reference to boatanchors, I found it after only an hour or two of > skimming. And I also found that some of my recollections were a bit hazy > after all those years. The original letter to the editor (not to the > "Surplus Editor" as I incorrectly recalled) appeared on page 16 of the > October 1956 issue of CQ and was as follows: Gentlemen: I recently > acquired a "Signal Corps Wireless Set. No. 19 MK II Transceiver." Are > there schematics or conversion data for this rig? Any info will be > appreciated. David J. Wilke W3LSG Pottstown, Pennsylvania The editor > replied: The only conversion we seem to have on the files here at CQ calls > for 100 feet of 1" Manila line, one end of which is to be tied securely > around the MK II Transceiver. > > This then converts the unit into a fine anchor for a small boat. If any > readers have better conversions we will be glad to hear about them. Ed. > This letter apparently generated a lot of interest and in the February > 1957 issue of CQ there was a follow-up from CQ's editor, another letter > from W3LSG and several pictures. If I find the time I will scan them and > post links to them here. > > The expression "boatanchor" may have originated earlier than 1956, as Doug > Hensley pointed out. I found no earlier references in amateur radio than > these CQ's, but there may be some. However, there was no reason to call > amateur gear of that era "boatanchors" since almost all of it fit that > description. It wasn't till later when smaller, lighter gear became > popular that there was reason to categorize some gear as boatanchors. And > it is also interesting to me that a word originally used to denote > something of little value, useful only to anchor a small boat, has taken > on a more affectionate meaning. We love our "boatanchors". Roger K6XQ > > > -- > CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! > > > > > > > "Bob Miller" wrote in message > news:60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com... >> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:55:22 -0600, "Cal" >> wrote: >> >>>Kenwoods, Yaesus, Icoms, Sonys...sheesh! >>>Don't you guys with your modern rice boxes have plenty of other forums to >>>fill up? I know you'd like to think your stuff is "classic" but it isn't >>>and doesn't belong here. >>> >> >> Okay, what is a boat anchor? >> >> bob >> k5qwg > > Article: 101877 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Leanne" Subject: Re: What's A Boat Anchor Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:17:12 -0500 Message-ID: References: <121dq1q29s4c504@corp.supernews.com> <60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com> <9vKRf.12436$Uc2.7879@fed1read04> <44177c9c$0$95980$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> > Personally, I think the definition of boatanchor will change > with time. These days, I consider anything that uses tubes > (but not CRT's) as boatanchors, including my Kenwood > rigs that use tube drivers and finals. 30 years from now, > any pre-Pentium PC will be considered a boatanchor, and > highly collectable. Hmmm, I guess I had better hang on to those two KayPro transportables in the back room. I wonder if I have the CPM disks for the kayPro II. Leanne Article: 101878 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <1142353255.351368.92920@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142426521.825272.102820@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: White marker pens Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:16:28 -0600 "ki4iua" wrote in message news:1142426521.825272.102820@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > w4pqw@cox.net wrote: > > Anyone ever heard of a fine tip white marking pen? I could use one for > > lettering boatanchor panels etc..I have a big white felt tip marker > > ,that won`t work for fine lettering... Tnx Harold > > When I worked for the DOD, the office supply, aka "Country Store", had > markers that actually contained some kind of paint. They worked very > well for marking equipment permanently. I used a "Painters" fine tip made by Hunt Corp to letter an SP600 panel. It uses paint, works quite well if you have indented letters/figures in the panel, but you still might have to wipe off excess. Got it in a Home Hardware type store, but it may be in art stores as well. Nelson Article: 101879 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Subject: Re: What's A Boat Anchor Date: 15 Mar 2006 09:56:23 -0500 Message-ID: References: <121dq1q29s4c504@corp.supernews.com> <60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com> <9vKRf.12436$Uc2.7879@fed1read04> <9HORf.60068$dW3.21097@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> Ed wrote: >It's a tube rig made in America by Americans. I love my 78 Toyota pickup, >but it will never be the classic a pre-70's American made vehicle is, it is >worthless to anyone but me. Same for rice box radios, after the new is worn >off, they're worthless compared to vintage American made rigs, just look on >EBay. Yes, I owned rice boxes the first time around, thousands of dollars >worth of rice boxes, and now they're worth the same amount as my 78 Toy >pickup. No, not at all. I have used German boatanchors and Soviet boatanchors. Never used any of the prewar or wartime Japanese boatanchors, but I have seen a few on display now and then. If the input power in watts is less than the weight in pounds, it's a boatanchor. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Article: 101880 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: - exray - Subject: Re: What's A Boat Anchor Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:25:19 -0400 Message-ID: <121gces7sksr3a5@corp.supernews.com> References: <121dq1q29s4c504@corp.supernews.com> <60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com> <9vKRf.12436$Uc2.7879@fed1read04> <9HORf.60068$dW3.21097@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> Scott Dorsey wrote: > > If the input power in watts is less than the weight in pounds, it's a > boatanchor. > --scott > > hehehe...thats a good measure. Do you have one for receivers? I'm wondering how an S-38 "qualifies". -Bill Article: 101881 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Juergen Kosel" Subject: 1 Million Visitors to your Website Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:21:31 How To Get 1 Million Visitors On Your Web Site Without Paying A Dime In advertising ! Are you frustrated by the lack of traffic coming to your site? If I would tell you that after months of research, I just got my hands on the most hidden secrets... very sneaky tricks ! Click here : http://freeadguru.com/cgi-bin/i.pl?c=a&i=32460 Hurry, before the page gets banned! --- MAF Anti-Spam ID: 20060315091657M9n6YrV1 Article: 101882 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Charlie Hugg" Subject: FS As New Mosley CL-33-M Beam Message-ID: <11ZRf.249338$oG.242746@dukeread02> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:28:15 -0600 I have a like new condition Mosley Classic 33 HF Beam for sale. It the late model CL-33-M and currently sells for $650 from Mosley. It has great gain on 20, 15, and 10 meters. It has a 18 foot boom.This one was up for a little over a year and looks brand new. It has been taken down and is partially disassembled. It would be very easy to put it back together again since all pieces are color coded. It also would fit into a pickup truck for transportation. The price is $300 picked up. I don't want to ship it. Or I can meet someone within 100 miles of Abilene, Texas. Thanks, Charlie Hugg, K5MBX -- ________________________________ See my Signal/One, Collins & Drake Photo Galleries and my Hallicrafters Virtual Museum at http://hug-a-bug.com Article: 101883 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Steve" References: <121dq1q29s4c504@corp.supernews.com> <60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com> <9vKRf.12436$Uc2.7879@fed1read04> <9HORf.60068$dW3.21097@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> Subject: Re: What's A Boat Anchor Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:19:37 -0800 Message-ID: <441876da$0$58084$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Ed, I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree. I think the definition of 'boatanchor' is a fluid thing, much like the definition of 'classic car'. My 1973 Datsun 240Z is considered by most to be a classic car. So is my 1951 MG-TD, '58 Austin-Healey 100-6, and all of the other foreign made cars in my collection. A teenager down the street from me has a 'tricked-out' older Datsun truck. I'm sure he considers it a classic. The Kenwood TS-520, and Yaesu FT-101 rigs date back to the late 1970's. If you compare one of these rigs on the air to the newer fancy rigs, chances are you won't be able to tell the difference. These are indeed classic rigs that were very well built, and were relatively inexpensive. Quite a few remain on the air today. Not sure what you have against 'riceboxes', but I like mine and will continue to use it, and enjoy it every bit as much as my Halli HT-44/R-390 and Heathkit HW-101. Steve "Ed" wrote in message news:9HORf.60068$dW3.21097@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... > It's a tube rig made in America by Americans. I love my 78 Toyota pickup, > but it will never be the classic a pre-70's American made vehicle is, it > is worthless to anyone but me. Same for rice box radios, after the new is > worn off, they're worthless compared to vintage American made rigs, just > look on EBay. Yes, I owned rice boxes the first time around, thousands of > dollars worth of rice boxes, and now they're worth the same amount as my > 78 Toy pickup. > I'm really not trying to be nasty, just realistic. > "Caveat Lector" wrote in message > news:9vKRf.12436$Uc2.7879@fed1read04... >> From the mists of history and country legend: >> ORIGINS OF BOATANCHOR >> >> THREE VERSIONS -- Opinions From The Internet. >> >> Version I -- During World War II, Military Radio Techs used the term >> BoatAnchor as they struggled with the huge, heavy, electronic equipments >> of the day -- full of transformers, tubes etc. Also the US Navy >> frequently marked electronic gear with an anchor. After the war -- tons >> of the equipment appeared on the surplus market and was dubbed >> BoatAnchors due to the reasons above - one or both. >> >> Version II -- After WWII a national magazine editor answered a query "As >> what to do with an outdated heavy, large, surplus electronic >> instrument?" and answered "Tie a line to it and use it as a BoatAnchor" >> >> Version III To all those who expressed interest in the CQ magazine >> reference to boatanchors, I found it after only an hour or two of >> skimming. And I also found that some of my recollections were a bit hazy >> after all those years. The original letter to the editor (not to the >> "Surplus Editor" as I incorrectly recalled) appeared on page 16 of the >> October 1956 issue of CQ and was as follows: Gentlemen: I recently >> acquired a "Signal Corps Wireless Set. No. 19 MK II Transceiver." Are >> there schematics or conversion data for this rig? Any info will be >> appreciated. David J. Wilke W3LSG Pottstown, Pennsylvania The editor >> replied: The only conversion we seem to have on the files here at CQ >> calls for 100 feet of 1" Manila line, one end of which is to be tied >> securely around the MK II Transceiver. >> >> This then converts the unit into a fine anchor for a small boat. If any >> readers have better conversions we will be glad to hear about them. Ed. >> This letter apparently generated a lot of interest and in the February >> 1957 issue of CQ there was a follow-up from CQ's editor, another letter >> from W3LSG and several pictures. If I find the time I will scan them and >> post links to them here. >> >> The expression "boatanchor" may have originated earlier than 1956, as >> Doug Hensley pointed out. I found no earlier references in amateur radio >> than these CQ's, but there may be some. However, there was no reason to >> call amateur gear of that era "boatanchors" since almost all of it fit >> that description. It wasn't till later when smaller, lighter gear became >> popular that there was reason to categorize some gear as boatanchors. And >> it is also interesting to me that a word originally used to denote >> something of little value, useful only to anchor a small boat, has taken >> on a more affectionate meaning. We love our "boatanchors". Roger K6XQ >> >> >> -- >> CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Bob Miller" wrote in message >> news:60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com... >>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:55:22 -0600, "Cal" >>> wrote: >>> >>>>Kenwoods, Yaesus, Icoms, Sonys...sheesh! >>>>Don't you guys with your modern rice boxes have plenty of other forums >>>>to >>>>fill up? I know you'd like to think your stuff is "classic" but it >>>>isn't >>>>and doesn't belong here. >>>> >>> >>> Okay, what is a boat anchor? >>> >>> bob >>> k5qwg >> >> > > Article: 101884 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Charlie Hugg" Subject: FS CDE Ham IV Rotator Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:52:57 -0600 I have a CDE Ham IV Rotator for sale. It is the older model with the black and white metal Control Box, not the Black Plastic one. The Rotator needs cleaning and lubed and a new control cable screw plate installed. Otherwise it works and looks good. Price is $185. Thanks, Charlie Hugg, K5MBX -- ________________________________ See my Signal/One, Collins & Drake Photo Galleries and my Hallicrafters Virtual Museum at http://hug-a-bug.com Article: 101885 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Bricktop Subject: Re: What's A Boat Anchor (Classic) Message-ID: References: <121dq1q29s4c504@corp.supernews.com> <60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com> <9vKRf.12436$Uc2.7879@fed1read04> <9HORf.60068$dW3.21097@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> <441876da$0$58084$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:36:49 -0500 IMOHO, if it don't keep you warm on a long winters night it ain't a boatanchor. On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:20:54 -0500, K3HVG wrote: >I like the term "classic". It certainly describes the equipment more >accurately and adds a touch of dignity... unlike the term B/A!! Hi!! > >My first connection with the term-in-question would have been in 1959. >Having just traded a WRL DSB-100 double-sideband rig even for a >BC-610E/BC-614/JB-70 from an AF Sgt, just returning from Guam, my local >(sage)ham radio dealer informed me that "Nobody uses those old >boatanchors, anymore!" Sounds like he picked up on that CQ mag article, >maybe? > > >Caveat Lector wrote: >> Well apply your "Classic" to these definitions - Websters >> >> classic >> >> >> 1 : serving as a standard of excellence : of recognized value >> >> 2. TRADITIONAL, ENDURING characterized by simple tailored lines in >> fashion year after year >> >> 3. historically memorable >> >> 4. noted because of special literary or historical associations >> >> Article: 101886 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Bricktop Subject: Re: What's A Boat Anchor Message-ID: References: <121dq1q29s4c504@corp.supernews.com> <60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com> <9vKRf.12436$Uc2.7879@fed1read04> <9HORf.60068$dW3.21097@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> <441876da$0$58084$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:39:48 -0500 Here ya go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_receiver On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:19:37 -0800, "Steve" wrote: >Ed, >I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree. >I think the definition of 'boatanchor' is a fluid thing, >much like the definition of 'classic car'. My >1973 Datsun 240Z is considered by most to be >a classic car. So is my 1951 MG-TD, '58 Austin-Healey >100-6, and all of the other foreign made cars in >my collection. A teenager down the street from me >has a 'tricked-out' older Datsun truck. I'm sure he >considers it a classic. > >The Kenwood TS-520, and Yaesu FT-101 rigs date >back to the late 1970's. If you compare one of these rigs >on the air to the newer fancy rigs, chances are you won't >be able to tell the difference. These are indeed classic rigs >that were very well built, and were relatively inexpensive. >Quite a few remain on the air today. > >Not sure what you have against 'riceboxes', but I like >mine and will continue to use it, and enjoy it every bit >as much as my Halli HT-44/R-390 and Heathkit HW-101. > > Steve > >"Ed" wrote in message >news:9HORf.60068$dW3.21097@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... >> It's a tube rig made in America by Americans. I love my 78 Toyota pickup, >> but it will never be the classic a pre-70's American made vehicle is, it >> is worthless to anyone but me. Same for rice box radios, after the new is >> worn off, they're worthless compared to vintage American made rigs, just >> look on EBay. Yes, I owned rice boxes the first time around, thousands of >> dollars worth of rice boxes, and now they're worth the same amount as my >> 78 Toy pickup. >> I'm really not trying to be nasty, just realistic. >> "Caveat Lector" wrote in message >> news:9vKRf.12436$Uc2.7879@fed1read04... >>> From the mists of history and country legend: >>> ORIGINS OF BOATANCHOR >>> >>> THREE VERSIONS -- Opinions From The Internet. >>> >>> Version I -- During World War II, Military Radio Techs used the term >>> BoatAnchor as they struggled with the huge, heavy, electronic equipments >>> of the day -- full of transformers, tubes etc. Also the US Navy >>> frequently marked electronic gear with an anchor. After the war -- tons >>> of the equipment appeared on the surplus market and was dubbed >>> BoatAnchors due to the reasons above - one or both. >>> >>> Version II -- After WWII a national magazine editor answered a query "As >>> what to do with an outdated heavy, large, surplus electronic >>> instrument?" and answered "Tie a line to it and use it as a BoatAnchor" >>> >>> Version III To all those who expressed interest in the CQ magazine >>> reference to boatanchors, I found it after only an hour or two of >>> skimming. And I also found that some of my recollections were a bit hazy >>> after all those years. The original letter to the editor (not to the >>> "Surplus Editor" as I incorrectly recalled) appeared on page 16 of the >>> October 1956 issue of CQ and was as follows: Gentlemen: I recently >>> acquired a "Signal Corps Wireless Set. No. 19 MK II Transceiver." Are >>> there schematics or conversion data for this rig? Any info will be >>> appreciated. David J. Wilke W3LSG Pottstown, Pennsylvania The editor >>> replied: The only conversion we seem to have on the files here at CQ >>> calls for 100 feet of 1" Manila line, one end of which is to be tied >>> securely around the MK II Transceiver. >>> >>> This then converts the unit into a fine anchor for a small boat. If any >>> readers have better conversions we will be glad to hear about them. Ed. >>> This letter apparently generated a lot of interest and in the February >>> 1957 issue of CQ there was a follow-up from CQ's editor, another letter >>> from W3LSG and several pictures. If I find the time I will scan them and >>> post links to them here. >>> >>> The expression "boatanchor" may have originated earlier than 1956, as >>> Doug Hensley pointed out. I found no earlier references in amateur radio >>> than these CQ's, but there may be some. However, there was no reason to >>> call amateur gear of that era "boatanchors" since almost all of it fit >>> that description. It wasn't till later when smaller, lighter gear became >>> popular that there was reason to categorize some gear as boatanchors. And >>> it is also interesting to me that a word originally used to denote >>> something of little value, useful only to anchor a small boat, has taken >>> on a more affectionate meaning. We love our "boatanchors". Roger K6XQ >>> >>> >>> -- >>> CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Bob Miller" wrote in message >>> news:60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com... >>>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:55:22 -0600, "Cal" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Kenwoods, Yaesus, Icoms, Sonys...sheesh! >>>>>Don't you guys with your modern rice boxes have plenty of other forums >>>>>to >>>>>fill up? I know you'd like to think your stuff is "classic" but it >>>>>isn't >>>>>and doesn't belong here. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Okay, what is a boat anchor? >>>> >>>> bob >>>> k5qwg >>> >>> >> >> > Article: 101887 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "kh" Message-ID: <0QMXZWh9EdSr-pn2-NH0e0dg7c19i@localhost> Subject: mini-DX-60 status report. Date: 16 Mar 2006 02:48:35 GMT -- Updated my mini-DX-60 page at www.kiyoinc.com/dx60.htm Please enjoy. de ah6gi/4 thinking about a mini-30S-1 now Article: 101888 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Bernie Murphy" Subject: HP Test Equipment Users Group? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:28:45 -0500 Is there a user's group for HP Test equipment (similar to the Tektronix Yahoo user's group)? I recently purchased an HP 8640B Option 323 MIL spec signal generator and would like to swap information regarding this boat anchor (it weighs about 60 pounds!) Regards, Bernie, VE3FWF, Ottawa, Canada Article: 101889 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "YT" References: <121dq1q29s4c504@corp.supernews.com> <60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com> <9vKRf.12436$Uc2.7879@fed1read04> <9HORf.60068$dW3.21097@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> <441876da$0$58084$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Subject: Re: What's A Boat Anchor Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:46:58 GMT So what exactly is a 'Wiki' anyways? A tiny Wookie? A smaller wok? "Bricktop" wrote in message news:kujh121aqqrurue6eq2agn37ubshgugur8@4ax.com... > Here ya go: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_receiver > > > > > > On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:19:37 -0800, "Steve" wrote: > >>Ed, >>I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree. >>I think the definition of 'boatanchor' is a fluid thing, >>much like the definition of 'classic car'. My >>1973 Datsun 240Z is considered by most to be >>a classic car. So is my 1951 MG-TD, '58 Austin-Healey >>100-6, and all of the other foreign made cars in >>my collection. A teenager down the street from me >>has a 'tricked-out' older Datsun truck. I'm sure he >>considers it a classic. >> >>The Kenwood TS-520, and Yaesu FT-101 rigs date >>back to the late 1970's. If you compare one of these rigs >>on the air to the newer fancy rigs, chances are you won't >>be able to tell the difference. These are indeed classic rigs >>that were very well built, and were relatively inexpensive. >>Quite a few remain on the air today. >> >>Not sure what you have against 'riceboxes', but I like >>mine and will continue to use it, and enjoy it every bit >>as much as my Halli HT-44/R-390 and Heathkit HW-101. >> >> Steve >> >>"Ed" wrote in message >>news:9HORf.60068$dW3.21097@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... >>> It's a tube rig made in America by Americans. I love my 78 Toyota >>> pickup, >>> but it will never be the classic a pre-70's American made vehicle is, it >>> is worthless to anyone but me. Same for rice box radios, after the new >>> is >>> worn off, they're worthless compared to vintage American made rigs, just >>> look on EBay. Yes, I owned rice boxes the first time around, thousands >>> of >>> dollars worth of rice boxes, and now they're worth the same amount as my >>> 78 Toy pickup. >>> I'm really not trying to be nasty, just realistic. >>> "Caveat Lector" wrote in message >>> news:9vKRf.12436$Uc2.7879@fed1read04... >>>> From the mists of history and country legend: >>>> ORIGINS OF BOATANCHOR >>>> >>>> THREE VERSIONS -- Opinions From The Internet. >>>> >>>> Version I -- During World War II, Military Radio Techs used the term >>>> BoatAnchor as they struggled with the huge, heavy, electronic >>>> equipments >>>> of the day -- full of transformers, tubes etc. Also the US Navy >>>> frequently marked electronic gear with an anchor. After the war -- tons >>>> of the equipment appeared on the surplus market and was dubbed >>>> BoatAnchors due to the reasons above - one or both. >>>> >>>> Version II -- After WWII a national magazine editor answered a query >>>> "As >>>> what to do with an outdated heavy, large, surplus electronic >>>> instrument?" and answered "Tie a line to it and use it as a BoatAnchor" >>>> >>>> Version III To all those who expressed interest in the CQ magazine >>>> reference to boatanchors, I found it after only an hour or two of >>>> skimming. And I also found that some of my recollections were a bit >>>> hazy >>>> after all those years. The original letter to the editor (not to the >>>> "Surplus Editor" as I incorrectly recalled) appeared on page 16 of the >>>> October 1956 issue of CQ and was as follows: Gentlemen: I recently >>>> acquired a "Signal Corps Wireless Set. No. 19 MK II Transceiver." Are >>>> there schematics or conversion data for this rig? Any info will be >>>> appreciated. David J. Wilke W3LSG Pottstown, Pennsylvania The editor >>>> replied: The only conversion we seem to have on the files here at CQ >>>> calls for 100 feet of 1" Manila line, one end of which is to be tied >>>> securely around the MK II Transceiver. >>>> >>>> This then converts the unit into a fine anchor for a small boat. If any >>>> readers have better conversions we will be glad to hear about them. Ed. >>>> This letter apparently generated a lot of interest and in the February >>>> 1957 issue of CQ there was a follow-up from CQ's editor, another >>>> letter >>>> from W3LSG and several pictures. If I find the time I will scan them >>>> and >>>> post links to them here. >>>> >>>> The expression "boatanchor" may have originated earlier than 1956, as >>>> Doug Hensley pointed out. I found no earlier references in amateur >>>> radio >>>> than these CQ's, but there may be some. However, there was no reason to >>>> call amateur gear of that era "boatanchors" since almost all of it fit >>>> that description. It wasn't till later when smaller, lighter gear >>>> became >>>> popular that there was reason to categorize some gear as boatanchors. >>>> And >>>> it is also interesting to me that a word originally used to denote >>>> something of little value, useful only to anchor a small boat, has >>>> taken >>>> on a more affectionate meaning. We love our "boatanchors". Roger K6XQ >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Bob Miller" wrote in message >>>> news:60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com... >>>>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:55:22 -0600, "Cal" >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Kenwoods, Yaesus, Icoms, Sonys...sheesh! >>>>>>Don't you guys with your modern rice boxes have plenty of other forums >>>>>>to >>>>>>fill up? I know you'd like to think your stuff is "classic" but it >>>>>>isn't >>>>>>and doesn't belong here. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Okay, what is a boat anchor? >>>>> >>>>> bob >>>>> k5qwg >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > Article: 101890 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Bob Spooner" Subject: Re: Question about 4-400 tube socket/mounting Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:53:41 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4412eccb_5@newsfeed.slurp.net> Why is the dissipation rating of the 4-400A lower when used in grounded grid service than it is when used in the traditional configuration? 73, Bob AD3K "Bill Turner" wrote in message news:4412eccb_5@newsfeed.slurp.net... > ORIGINAL MESSAGE: > > Straydog wrote: > >> there must be forced-air directed upwards from the non-tube side of >> the tube socket and there are specifications for flow rate and >> pressure. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "Flow rate and pressure" are nice, but the *only* important thing is > the temperature of the tube at various points as specified by the tube > manufacturer. If you are serious about proper tube cooling, use either > a non-contact thermometer of some kind or thermally-sensitive paint to > ensure your tube is within temp specs. Flow rate and pressure are a > means to an end, not an end in themselves. > > Bill, W6WRT Article: 101891 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Peter Hofmann" Subject: REQ: MFJ-1278B circuit diagram/schematics ? Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:25:18 +0100 Message-ID: <7abb2$441990f6$506d651c$18548@news.chello.at> I am searching the circuit diagrams/schematics for a MFJ-1278B Multimode Controller. Thanks in advance oe3pha@hotmail.com Article: 101892 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Caveat Lector" References: <121dq1q29s4c504@corp.supernews.com> <60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com> <9vKRf.12436$Uc2.7879@fed1read04> <9HORf.60068$dW3.21097@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> <441876da$0$58084$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Subject: Re: What's A WiKI (was Whats A Boat Anchor) Message-ID: <8ogSf.12553$Uc2.7670@fed1read04> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:30:52 -0800 >From URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki A wiki (IPA: ['wi?.ki?] or ['w?.ki?] or Wik-EE[1]) is a type of website that allows users to add and edit content easily and is especially suited for collaborative writing. The name is based on the Hawaiian term wiki, meaning "quick", "fast", or "to hasten" (Hawaiian dictionary). Sometimes the reduplication wikiwiki (or Wikiwiki) is used instead of wiki (Hawaiian dictionary). The term Wiki also sometimes refers to the collaborative software itself (wiki engine) that facilitates the operation of such a website (see wiki software). Aloha ya all -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "YT" wrote in message news:m%dSf.1633$tN3.1041@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > So what exactly is a 'Wiki' anyways? > > A tiny Wookie? > > A smaller wok? > Article: 101893 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: nanu Subject: FA: Collins 51S-1 Receiver in Good Condition Message-ID: <469j1212delhe7mofhnlrkvdp93kgfoedt@4ax.com> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:48:28 GMT Hello All, There is a Collins Radio 51S-1 receiver in very nice condition available on eBay right now. This is a rack mounted receiver (51S-1F) and has been fully checked out. In case anyone is interested, it is item # 5881317911 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5881317911&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 Thanks. Nanu Article: 101894 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) Subject: Re: What's A Boat Anchor Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:24:23 -0000 Message-ID: <121jbanrpo3tm54@corp.supernews.com> References: <121dq1q29s4c504@corp.supernews.com> <441876da$0$58084$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> In article , YT wrote: >So what exactly is a 'Wiki' anyways? > >A tiny Wookie? > >A smaller wok? > > Attributed to Julius Seizure: "Wiki, Weenie, Winkie" Article: 101895 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Dale Parfitt" Subject: Thordarson 24S51 ? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:10:37 GMT Anyone know the Z values on this audio output transformer? Alternatively, the proper ratio/values when used as an output transformer in a 6AQ5 audio stage? This is from the ARRL 2 tube regen appearing in So You Want To Be An Amateur Radio Op. Tnx, Dale W4OP Article: 101896 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "YT" References: Subject: Re: Thordarson 24S51 ? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:02:34 GMT Dont know abt that xfmr, but when designing with a 6AQ5 you may use teh same specs as a 6V6. "Dale Parfitt" wrote in message news:hvkSf.18764$wH5.13663@trnddc02... > Anyone know the Z values on this audio output transformer? Alternatively, > the proper ratio/values when used as an output transformer in a 6AQ5 audio > stage? This is from the ARRL 2 tube regen appearing in So You Want To Be > An Amateur Radio Op. > > Tnx, > > Dale W4OP > Article: 101897 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "August Johnson" Subject: Re: Thordarson 24S51 ? Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:24:30 -0700 Message-ID: <121k3ud7dtpjc44@corp.supernews.com> References: My catalog says it's a 5000 ohm primary 50mA 5 Watts. It doesn't say whether 4 or 8 ohms secondary. August KG7BZ "Dale Parfitt" wrote in message news:hvkSf.18764$wH5.13663@trnddc02... > Anyone know the Z values on this audio output transformer? Alternatively, > the proper ratio/values when used as an output transformer in a 6AQ5 audio > stage? This is from the ARRL 2 tube regen appearing in So You Want To Be > An Amateur Radio Op. > > Tnx, > > Dale W4OP > Article: 101898 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "August Johnson" Subject: Re: Thordarson 24S51 ? Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:24:01 -0700 Message-ID: <121k3u74e32hc41@corp.supernews.com> References: My catalog says it's a 5000 ohm primary 50mA 5 Watts. It doesn't say whether 4 or 8 ohms secondary. August KG7BZ "Dale Parfitt" wrote in message news:hvkSf.18764$wH5.13663@trnddc02... > Anyone know the Z values on this audio output transformer? Alternatively, > the proper ratio/values when used as an output transformer in a 6AQ5 audio > stage? This is from the ARRL 2 tube regen appearing in So You Want To Be > An Amateur Radio Op. > > Tnx, > > Dale W4OP > Article: 101899 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "August Johnson" Subject: Re: Thordarson 24S51 ? Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:24:24 -0700 Message-ID: <121k3u7fpcp0p42@corp.supernews.com> References: My catalog says it's a 5000 ohm primary 50mA 5 Watts. It doesn't say whether 4 or 8 ohms secondary. August KG7BZ "Dale Parfitt" wrote in message news:hvkSf.18764$wH5.13663@trnddc02... > Anyone know the Z values on this audio output transformer? Alternatively, > the proper ratio/values when used as an output transformer in a 6AQ5 audio > stage? This is from the ARRL 2 tube regen appearing in So You Want To Be > An Amateur Radio Op. > > Tnx, > > Dale W4OP > Article: 101900 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Dale Parfitt" References: <121k3ud7dtpjc44@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Thordarson 24S51 ? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 02:09:27 GMT "August Johnson" wrote in message news:121k3ud7dtpjc44@corp.supernews.com... > My catalog says it's a 5000 ohm primary 50mA 5 Watts. It doesn't say > whether > 4 or 8 ohms secondary. > > August KG7BZ > >Thanks August, just what I needed. Dale W4OP Article: 101901 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Jerry" References: <121dq1q29s4c504@corp.supernews.com> <60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com> <9vKRf.12436$Uc2.7879@fed1read04> <44177c9c$0$95980$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Subject: Re: What's A Boat Anchor Message-ID: <01pSf.1$e8.0@bignews3.bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:22:55 -0500 "Steve" wrote in message news:44177c9c$0$95980$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net... > Roger, > Thanks for posting this. I almost fell off of the couch I was > laughing so hard! > > Personally, I think the definition of boatanchor will change > with time. These days, I consider anything that uses tubes > (but not CRT's) as boatanchors, including my Kenwood > rigs that use tube drivers and finals. 30 years from now, > any pre-Pentium PC will be considered a boatanchor, and > highly collectable. > > Steve W6SSP > > "Caveat Lector" wrote in message > news:9vKRf.12436$Uc2.7879@fed1read04... >> From the mists of history and country legend: >> ORIGINS OF BOATANCHOR >> >> THREE VERSIONS -- Opinions From The Internet. >> >> Version I -- During World War II, Military Radio Techs used the term >> BoatAnchor as they struggled with the huge, heavy, electronic equipments >> of the day -- full of transformers, tubes etc. Also the US Navy >> frequently marked electronic gear with an anchor. After the war -- tons >> of the equipment appeared on the surplus market and was dubbed >> BoatAnchors due to the reasons above - one or both. >> >> Version II -- After WWII a national magazine editor answered a query "As >> what to do with an outdated heavy, large, surplus electronic >> instrument?" and answered "Tie a line to it and use it as a BoatAnchor" >> >> Version III To all those who expressed interest in the CQ magazine >> reference to boatanchors, I found it after only an hour or two of >> skimming. And I also found that some of my recollections were a bit hazy >> after all those years. The original letter to the editor (not to the >> "Surplus Editor" as I incorrectly recalled) appeared on page 16 of the >> October 1956 issue of CQ and was as follows: Gentlemen: I recently >> acquired a "Signal Corps Wireless Set. No. 19 MK II Transceiver." Are >> there schematics or conversion data for this rig? Any info will be >> appreciated. David J. Wilke W3LSG Pottstown, Pennsylvania The editor >> replied: The only conversion we seem to have on the files here at CQ >> calls for 100 feet of 1" Manila line, one end of which is to be tied >> securely around the MK II Transceiver. >> >> This then converts the unit into a fine anchor for a small boat. If any >> readers have better conversions we will be glad to hear about them. Ed. >> This letter apparently generated a lot of interest and in the February >> 1957 issue of CQ there was a follow-up from CQ's editor, another letter >> from W3LSG and several pictures. If I find the time I will scan them and >> post links to them here. >> >> The expression "boatanchor" may have originated earlier than 1956, as >> Doug Hensley pointed out. I found no earlier references in amateur radio >> than these CQ's, but there may be some. However, there was no reason to >> call amateur gear of that era "boatanchors" since almost all of it fit >> that description. It wasn't till later when smaller, lighter gear became >> popular that there was reason to categorize some gear as boatanchors. And >> it is also interesting to me that a word originally used to denote >> something of little value, useful only to anchor a small boat, has taken >> on a more affectionate meaning. We love our "boatanchors". Roger K6XQ >> >> >> -- >> CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Bob Miller" wrote in message >> news:60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com... >>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:55:22 -0600, "Cal" >>> wrote: >>> >>>>Kenwoods, Yaesus, Icoms, Sonys...sheesh! >>>>Don't you guys with your modern rice boxes have plenty of other forums >>>>to >>>>fill up? I know you'd like to think your stuff is "classic" but it >>>>isn't >>>>and doesn't belong here. >>>> >>> >>> Okay, what is a boat anchor? >>> >>> bob >>> k5qwg Boatanchor. Any radio that makes my back ache when I pick it up!! :) 73 Jerry >> >> > > Article: 101903 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Message-ID: <441AB885.6030903@nucleus.com> From: Ken Subject: FA: RCA Shelf for BA6a or 86A Limiter Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:25:46 GMT Up for auction, a vintage RCA rack shelf Model MI-1159. This would be a perfect addition to your studio,ham operation or the original shelf for the famous BA6a or 86a limiter. See and bid at:http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-Victor-Vintage-Shelf-Rack-MI-1159-Ba6a-Limiter_W0QQitemZ7398316999 Article: 101904 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Bricktop Subject: Re: What's A Boat Anchor Message-ID: <6ujl12hk8b452qrokt2cacsph7i6hj3245@4ax.com> References: <121dq1q29s4c504@corp.supernews.com> <60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com> <9vKRf.12436$Uc2.7879@fed1read04> <9HORf.60068$dW3.21097@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> <441876da$0$58084$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:04:43 -0500 Beats me, but their definition sounded good! I actually like Jerry's better, but the older I get that means that BA's get smaller. On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:46:58 GMT, "YT" wrote: >So what exactly is a 'Wiki' anyways? > >A tiny Wookie? > >A smaller wok? > > > > > > >"Bricktop" wrote in message >news:kujh121aqqrurue6eq2agn37ubshgugur8@4ax.com... >> Here ya go: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_receiver >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:19:37 -0800, "Steve" wrote: >> >>>Ed, >>>I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree. >>>I think the definition of 'boatanchor' is a fluid thing, >>>much like the definition of 'classic car'. My >>>1973 Datsun 240Z is considered by most to be >>>a classic car. So is my 1951 MG-TD, '58 Austin-Healey >>>100-6, and all of the other foreign made cars in >>>my collection. A teenager down the street from me >>>has a 'tricked-out' older Datsun truck. I'm sure he >>>considers it a classic. >>> >>>The Kenwood TS-520, and Yaesu FT-101 rigs date >>>back to the late 1970's. If you compare one of these rigs >>>on the air to the newer fancy rigs, chances are you won't >>>be able to tell the difference. These are indeed classic rigs >>>that were very well built, and were relatively inexpensive. >>>Quite a few remain on the air today. >>> >>>Not sure what you have against 'riceboxes', but I like >>>mine and will continue to use it, and enjoy it every bit >>>as much as my Halli HT-44/R-390 and Heathkit HW-101. >>> >>> Steve >>> >>>"Ed" wrote in message >>>news:9HORf.60068$dW3.21097@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... >>>> It's a tube rig made in America by Americans. I love my 78 Toyota >>>> pickup, >>>> but it will never be the classic a pre-70's American made vehicle is, it >>>> is worthless to anyone but me. Same for rice box radios, after the new >>>> is >>>> worn off, they're worthless compared to vintage American made rigs, just >>>> look on EBay. Yes, I owned rice boxes the first time around, thousands >>>> of >>>> dollars worth of rice boxes, and now they're worth the same amount as my >>>> 78 Toy pickup. >>>> I'm really not trying to be nasty, just realistic. >>>> "Caveat Lector" wrote in message >>>> news:9vKRf.12436$Uc2.7879@fed1read04... >>>>> From the mists of history and country legend: >>>>> ORIGINS OF BOATANCHOR >>>>> >>>>> THREE VERSIONS -- Opinions From The Internet. >>>>> >>>>> Version I -- During World War II, Military Radio Techs used the term >>>>> BoatAnchor as they struggled with the huge, heavy, electronic >>>>> equipments >>>>> of the day -- full of transformers, tubes etc. Also the US Navy >>>>> frequently marked electronic gear with an anchor. After the war -- tons >>>>> of the equipment appeared on the surplus market and was dubbed >>>>> BoatAnchors due to the reasons above - one or both. >>>>> >>>>> Version II -- After WWII a national magazine editor answered a query >>>>> "As >>>>> what to do with an outdated heavy, large, surplus electronic >>>>> instrument?" and answered "Tie a line to it and use it as a BoatAnchor" >>>>> >>>>> Version III To all those who expressed interest in the CQ magazine >>>>> reference to boatanchors, I found it after only an hour or two of >>>>> skimming. And I also found that some of my recollections were a bit >>>>> hazy >>>>> after all those years. The original letter to the editor (not to the >>>>> "Surplus Editor" as I incorrectly recalled) appeared on page 16 of the >>>>> October 1956 issue of CQ and was as follows: Gentlemen: I recently >>>>> acquired a "Signal Corps Wireless Set. No. 19 MK II Transceiver." Are >>>>> there schematics or conversion data for this rig? Any info will be >>>>> appreciated. David J. Wilke W3LSG Pottstown, Pennsylvania The editor >>>>> replied: The only conversion we seem to have on the files here at CQ >>>>> calls for 100 feet of 1" Manila line, one end of which is to be tied >>>>> securely around the MK II Transceiver. >>>>> >>>>> This then converts the unit into a fine anchor for a small boat. If any >>>>> readers have better conversions we will be glad to hear about them. Ed. >>>>> This letter apparently generated a lot of interest and in the February >>>>> 1957 issue of CQ there was a follow-up from CQ's editor, another >>>>> letter >>>>> from W3LSG and several pictures. If I find the time I will scan them >>>>> and >>>>> post links to them here. >>>>> >>>>> The expression "boatanchor" may have originated earlier than 1956, as >>>>> Doug Hensley pointed out. I found no earlier references in amateur >>>>> radio >>>>> than these CQ's, but there may be some. However, there was no reason to >>>>> call amateur gear of that era "boatanchors" since almost all of it fit >>>>> that description. It wasn't till later when smaller, lighter gear >>>>> became >>>>> popular that there was reason to categorize some gear as boatanchors. >>>>> And >>>>> it is also interesting to me that a word originally used to denote >>>>> something of little value, useful only to anchor a small boat, has >>>>> taken >>>>> on a more affectionate meaning. We love our "boatanchors". Roger K6XQ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Bob Miller" wrote in message >>>>> news:60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com... >>>>>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:55:22 -0600, "Cal" >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Kenwoods, Yaesus, Icoms, Sonys...sheesh! >>>>>>>Don't you guys with your modern rice boxes have plenty of other forums >>>>>>>to >>>>>>>fill up? I know you'd like to think your stuff is "classic" but it >>>>>>>isn't >>>>>>>and doesn't belong here. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Okay, what is a boat anchor? >>>>>> >>>>>> bob >>>>>> k5qwg >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > Article: 101905 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: nanu Subject: Re: FA: Collins 51S-1 Receiver in Good Condition Message-ID: References: <469j1212delhe7mofhnlrkvdp93kgfoedt@4ax.com> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:22:58 GMT On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:48:28 GMT, nanu wrote: Thanks to the gentleman who alerted me that the previous link I posted was incorrect. The link below is now correct: >Hello All, > > There is a Collins Radio 51S-1 receiver in very nice condition >available on eBay right now. This is a rack mounted receiver (51S-1F) >and has been fully checked out. In case anyone is interested, it is >item # 5880140736 > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5880140736&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 > > > Thanks. > > Nanu Article: 101906 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Dave Floyd" Subject: F.A. Beautiful Zenith B-600 T.O. Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:57:14 -0800 Message-ID: <4436f$441af879$4731a91d$27850@VIAWEST.NET> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9700147492&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 Thanks Dave W9MPD Article: 101907 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Steve Nosko" Subject: Re: What's A Boat Anchor Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:17:43 -0600 Message-ID: References: <121dq1q29s4c504@corp.supernews.com> <60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com> <9vKRf.12436$Uc2.7879@fed1read04> <9HORf.60068$dW3.21097@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> "Chuck Harris" wrote in message news:PPGdnadAp7Ltr4XZRVn-sw@rcn.net... > Scott Dorsey wrote: > > Ed wrote: > >> It's a tube rig made in America by Americans. I love my 78 Toyota pickup, > >> but it will never be the classic a pre-70's American made vehicle is, it is > >> worthless to anyone but me. Same for rice box radios, after the new is worn > >> off, they're worthless compared to vintage American made rigs, just look on > >> EBay. Yes, I owned rice boxes the first time around, thousands of dollars > >> worth of rice boxes, and now they're worth the same amount as my 78 Toy > >> pickup. > > > > No, not at all. I have used German boatanchors and Soviet boatanchors. > > Never used any of the prewar or wartime Japanese boatanchors, but I have > > seen a few on display now and then. > > > > If the input power in watts is less than the weight in pounds, it's a > > boatanchor. > > --scott > > Well, than that leaves out the R-390/390A series. They weigh about 70-80 pounds, > and draw 140W w/o ovens, and 250W w/ovens. > > It also leaves out the KWM-2, TCS, and just about everything else I can > think of. > > Care to try again with your definition? > > -Chuck I think that was more of a tougue-in-cheek than a definitative definition... 73, Steve, k,9.D/C'I Article: 101908 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Charlie Hugg" Subject: FS NIB Spi-Ro HF Antenna 10-80 mts Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:06:52 -0600 I have a brand new in the box Spi-Ro Trap Dipole Antenna, Model D-56 Professional Series. It sells new for $152.95. Type Spi-Po Antenna into Google and it will take you to their Webpage. This antenna has 6 traps and is 82 feet long. It handle up to 600 watts. It covers 10, 15, 20, 40, and 80 meters. I have the original instructions. It has never been out of the box or plastic shipping bag. Price is $92.95 and I will pay shipping in the lower 48. Thanks, Charlie Hugg, K5MBX -- ________________________________ See my Signal/One, Collins & Drake Photo Galleries and my Hallicrafters Virtual Museum at http://hug-a-bug.com Article: 101909 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Caveat Lector" References: <121dq1q29s4c504@corp.supernews.com> <60se12ttumrgekta95dj0j9be5bb52mic3@4ax.com> <9vKRf.12436$Uc2.7879@fed1read04> <9HORf.60068$dW3.21097@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> Subject: Re: What's A Boat Anchor Message-ID: <7%ESf.12655$Uc2.8181@fed1read04> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:30:52 -0800 Interesting that there are really two threads going here 1. What is origin of the name "Boatanchor" 2; What qualifies as a "Boatanchor" For number one, a lot of research went into finding the origin See results here URL: http://ac6v.com/73.htm#ba For number two. Qualifications -- lotsa opinions here -- many subjective depending on the muscles of the beholder (;-) Some proposed "Classic" -- I really feel the TS-520, TS-830, HRO models, and several Collins do or will qualify as classic by virtue of obtaining a standard of excellence, but a classic is not necessarily a boatanchor IMHO But if you want to see a lot of real boatanchors see URL: http://members.cox.net/wa6mhz/ -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! Article: 101910 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: The Visitor Subject: Re: FS: Yaesu XF-30C CW filter References: <1142551762.921352.179280@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:15:08 -0500 As an aside, would you know whom would have an 11m crystal for one? John gil wrote: > XF-30C CW filter for Yaesu FT-101 series asking $55. shipped. > > Please email me at gi1pi@yahoo.com. > > Thanks...Gil n2wjw > Article: 101911 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Edward Greeley Subject: TV-7D/U tube tester part needed Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 02:51:52 GMT I am desperately seeking a filament selector switch, S107, for my TV-7D. Actually, I only need section (wafer) E of the switch. Section E is the one closest to the "top" if the instrument is lying face down on the bench. If the instrument is face up as it would normally be in its case, section E would be the one on the bottom, closest to the bottom of the case. Does anyone have a junker to cannibalize? Will pay a reasonable price, of course. TIA for any help, Ed Greeley Article: 101912 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Charlie Hugg" Subject: FS Yaesu NC-29 Quick Charger Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:44:01 -0600 FS Yaesu NC-29 Quick Charger - $45.00 Shipped to the lower 48. Fits FT-23R, 33R, 73R, FT-411E, FT-811, FT-911, and FT-470. Also fits FTH-2008 & FTH-7008 commercial transceivers. The Yaesu Quick Charger NC-29 quick charges HT's in 1 hour or less. Thanks, Charlie Hugg, K5MBX Article: 101913 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Subject: Re: Is CB dead? From: "Jerry McCarty" References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:38:40 GMT I've got one in the car. No idea if the transmitter works, but I get the best traffic reports available by listening to the truckers. The accuracy of of the broadcast station's reports leaves much to be desired. Besides, it is always helpful to know where Smoky is hiding out :) Article: 101914 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Rob Mills" References: Subject: Re: Is CB dead? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:05:25 -0600 "Dave Edwards" wrote in message news:ZMOdnbrOHaJZnoHZRVn-gQ@comcast.com... >> Anyone check the band out lately?<< I don't check it real often but I live less than a mile from I-44 were it passes through Tulsa and about all I hear on ch 19 (27.185) is an occasional trucker gabbing with another, nothing out of line as it once was. RM~ Article: 101915 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Caveat Lector" References: Subject: Re: Is CB dead? Message-ID: <_tVSf.12699$Uc2.1565@fed1read04> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:16:06 -0800 We are near the bottom of the 11 year solar cycle thus very poor "skip" conditions on the upper bands See URL: http://www.dxlc.com/solar/solcycle.html Or http://www.arrl.org/qst/propcharts/2006/04/mid.pdf One might hear some local line of sight signals but not like the "old" days -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "Dave Edwards" wrote in message news:ZMOdnbrOHaJZnoHZRVn-gQ@comcast.com... >I have not had an 11 meter antenna up in the air since around 1972 or so. I >have a clear memory of all the heterodynes and yacking on every channel >that used to go on. I plugged one in again around 1985 or so, because a >buddy of mine had one in his boat, and used it keep it on channel 5. Not >much difference. > Anyway, last weekend...for yucks, I hooked one up to a longwire. I did not > hear a single person on any channel! Perhaps it is the cross polarized > wire antenna. > So, I shot a wire over a branch, and hoisted a CB vertical antenna > ..Astron or Antron...something like that...a pretty good fiberglass > antenna! > Still, other than a general high noise level...no signals! > Channel 19 used to be jammed...even with a handheld whip antenna! > > Is CB no longer?? > > Perhaps it might be useful again!!! > > Anyone check the band out lately? > > ....Dave > Article: 101916 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Rob Mills" References: Subject: Re: Is CB dead? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:39:31 -0600 "Jerry McCarty" wrote in message news:H3USf.662$hi2.481@news.itd.umich.edu... >>I get the best traffic reports available by listening to the truckers.<< I'm a retired driver (Sears) and spent a lot of time driving at night in the Ozark country of N.E. Okla, S.W. Mo and N.W. Ark back in the 60's and 70's. In those days they still had open range, winding narrow roads that trucks mirror brackets wouldn't each other by 6 in.. The big danger were "cows in the road" or "truck jack knifed" just around that next curve. I'm convinced I would have never survived that job with out the warnings I got over the CB radio. RM~ PS, All truckers get a bad rap because of a very small minority who act like idiots on the radio. Most are like you, they don't or rarely xmit. Article: 101917 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Barry" Subject: Kenwood R600 available? Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:39:22 -0600 Message-ID: <3e091$441c378c$18d649b3$13671@KNOLOGY.NET> Anyone know where there is a nice Kenwood R600 available for sale? I don't see any on eBay right at the moment and would possibly prefer to buy one outright. Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ Article: 101918 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: - exray - Subject: Re: Is CB dead? Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 17:19:44 -0400 Message-ID: <121oubdmbfc06d5@corp.supernews.com> References: gb wrote: > The Citizens Band (CB) is one of several Personal Radio Services, regulated > by the FCC. > http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=service_home&id=personal_radio > > Outside of usage by trucking industry on the highway, "CB" as known by the > general public during the craze of the 1970s - is as dead as 8-track tapes > (still seen on TV series That 70s Show). Why? > > 1.) Reagan / Bush [41] Administrations, 1980s. > Low tolerance for foul language and unreliability of the communications that > the CB service became in late 1970s - especially with conservative family & > religious groups. Oh my, I never realized that was the problem. -Bill Article: 101919 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: vk2ua-spamout@yahoo.com (Simon) Subject: Preview the Kurrajong Radio Museum (mainly military) Message-ID: <441c9edc.670000179@news.people.net.au> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 00:06:15 GMT Hi The Kurrajong Radio Museum near Sydney, Australia is getting close to opening after several years of very hard work by the owner, Ian O'Toole, VK2ZIO. To give you a taste of the several hundred, mainly military, radios from all over the world and other display items, over 60 pictures have just been uploaded which can be accessed from the museum's web site at http://www.vk2bv.org/museum/ The web site also contains detailed descriptions and photos of over 80 different military radios, in many cases with schematics. Simon Article: 101920 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Ron N8LMT" Subject: FA- DPDT RF Knife Switch, A REAL BIG ONE! Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 05:31:46 -0000 Message-ID: <121pr61aip0hmcd@corp.supernews.com> DPDT RF Knife Switch, WW2 Military type SA-13/U.... see the photos........ http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6614171338 cheap.......no reserve....... Article: 101921 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Antonio Vernucci" Subject: BC-348 part needed Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 13:04:35 +0100 Message-ID: <441d48d4$0$36925$4fafbaef@reader3.news.tin.it> Someone having an unusable BC348 in the basement may consider selling = me, at a reasonable price, the anti-backlash sprocket of the main tuning = knob. I have a US mailing address and would pay in US dollars. 73 Tony, I0JX