Article: 102175 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Dale Subject: Info Needed Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 00:54:26 -0700 Message-ID: <8fqb42d6d7kp0k13k4n2dak43h0mme3i7f@4ax.com> Hi, I have an old Signal Corps receiver- a BC-197. The serial number is 20. I can't find anything on the web about this, except that it was part (or all) of SCR-243. I'm just curious if anybody has any more info about it. There couldn't have been too many of them, unless I happened upon a real early one. Power supply info would be greatly appreciated too. Also, I have a Collins 310B-1 which I'd love to use, but it drifts too much, even after warm up. I replaced the entire PTO, with no effect. I've also replaced the VR tube(s), also with no effect. I don't suppose anybody here has had similar experiences and found a cure? Thanks, Dale KJ7SL Sorry about asking about such obscure stuff :) Article: 102176 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Antonio Vernucci" Subject: Solid state BFO in tube receiver Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 01:22:03 +0200 Message-ID: <4446c623$0$18297$4fafbaef@reader1.news.tin.it> Noone answered this question in the Collins newsgroup, so I try it here. I recently inspected a Collins 75S-3B receiver, and I found that someone = had modified the BFO circuit with the addition of a transistor (I have = not determined whether the transistor actually replaces the BFO = oscillator tube, or it instead just amplifies the BFO signal). The receiver works fine, but I cannot figure out the reason for the = modification. I would tend to believe that: - either it is a well known modification (but for which purpose?) - or it was just a way to circumvent the problem of a weak BFO crystal = that does not start oscillating with the BFO tube alone. As BFO crystals = are not easy to find, that could be a possible justification. Thanks in advance for any suggestion. 73 Tony I0JX Article: 102177 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Dick Suhar PE CMfgE" References: <4446c623$0$18297$4fafbaef@reader1.news.tin.it> Subject: Re: Solid state BFO in tube receiver Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:23:13 -0400 Message-ID: <44478b44$0$153$ad3619e8@news.netcarrier.net> Back in the 70s Howard Sartori had an article published in QST concerning Solid State tube replacements. He developed a line of "tubsters" for Drake gear and later did some for Collins gear. You may just have one of his in the rig or one someone built from a construction article. Dick K8WHA __________________________ "Antonio Vernucci" wrote in message news:4446c623$0$18297$4fafbaef@reader1.news.tin.it... Noone answered this question in the Collins newsgroup, so I try it here. I recently inspected a Collins 75S-3B receiver, and I found that someone had modified the BFO circuit with the addition of a transistor (I have not determined whether the transistor actually replaces the BFO oscillator tube, or it instead just amplifies the BFO signal). The receiver works fine, but I cannot figure out the reason for the modification. I would tend to believe that: - either it is a well known modification (but for which purpose?) - or it was just a way to circumvent the problem of a weak BFO crystal that does not start oscillating with the BFO tube alone. As BFO crystals are not easy to find, that could be a possible justification. Thanks in advance for any suggestion. 73 Tony I0JX Article: 102178 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Theo" Subject: Rare set on eBay.co.uk Message-ID: <2mR1g.314$Y6.123@newsfe3-win.ntli.net> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:33:18 GMT See:- http://tinyurl.com/nvz9h Article: 102179 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Edward Knobloch Subject: Re: Solid state BFO in tube receiver References: <4446c623$0$18297$4fafbaef@reader1.news.tin.it> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:38:28 GMT Hi, Tony It could be that someone added an emitter follower to the receiver BFO circuit, in order to bring the BFO signal to the transmitter via coax. A drawback to the S/Line is that the transmitter BFO crystal can be different in frequency than the receiver BFO crystal due to manufacturing tolerances, making exact zero-beating difficult in transceive mode. 73, Ed Knobloch Antonio Vernucci wrote: > Noone answered this question in the Collins newsgroup, so I try it here. > > I recently inspected a Collins 75S-3B receiver, and I found that someone had modified the BFO circuit with the addition of a transistor (I have not determined whether the transistor actually replaces the BFO oscillator tube, or it instead just amplifies the BFO signal). > > The receiver works fine, but I cannot figure out the reason for the modification. > > I would tend to believe that: > > - either it is a well known modification (but for which purpose?) > - or it was just a way to circumvent the problem of a weak BFO crystal that does not start oscillating with the BFO tube alone. As BFO crystals are not easy to find, that could be a possible justification. > > Thanks in advance for any suggestion. > > 73 > > Tony I0JX > Article: 102180 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Dale Parfitt" Subject: Crystal Schemes for Vintage 2M rigs Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:06:34 GMT Anyone know of a site that lists the freq formulas to determine the proper xtal freq for the vintage xtal controlled 2M rigs? Looking for some additional crystals for my IC-21A, and thought other rigs might use the same mixing scheme. Dale W4OP Article: 102181 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "clfe" References: Subject: Re: Crystal Schemes for Vintage 2M rigs Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:20:47 -0400 Message-ID: <44486b78$0$3688$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "Dale Parfitt" wrote in message news:uLZ1g.3231$iA5.2681@trnddc06... > Anyone know of a site that lists the freq formulas to determine the proper > xtal freq for the vintage xtal controlled 2M rigs? > Looking for some additional crystals for my IC-21A, and thought other rigs > might use the same mixing scheme. > > Dale W4OP > Many - though maybe not all - transmits were Frequency divided by 9 or 12. The receives used MINUS 10.7 or Minus 10.7 divided by a number. Three comes to mind, but not sure off the top of my head (too late to think!) IF you're in need of any crystals, I DO have some here. $2.50 each and they were pulled from working units. I have a crystal tester, can check before selling. In these, the transmits were as stated above - divided by 12. I can look up the receives. clffe Article: 102182 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer Subject: Anthony Bodo... Message-ID: <20060421203028.9A0D81705F@mail.cypherpunks.to> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:30:28 +0200 (CEST) has anyone in here been skinned by this guy he fails to deliver the goods cashes the checks and wont answer the telephone or emails... Article: 102183 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Roberto IZ5FCY Subject: FA Kenwood Station Monitor Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:59:25 +0200 Message-ID: <4v2sjwbthvxd$.1ftl31mkzv9cl$.dlg@40tude.net> Hi, a splendid Kenwood Station Monitor SM-230: http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9714764236&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 -- 73's de IZ5FCY Roberto Article: 102184 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Heytubeguy" Subject: FA:1DAY+,VIRBOPLEX'PRESENTATION'+ MO Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 00:56:49 GMT Presentation in very fine possibly NOS condition in original box with documents + other stuff too: see at: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZheytubeguy Tnx for looking, more coming, heytubeguy Article: 102185 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Dr. Anton T. Squeegee Subject: Re: Motorola manuals FS Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:36:54 -0700 Message-ID: References: <0cuh429dvnth5uop54v6n4u0nkbh9udbfq@4ax.com> [Followup posted to rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors, and an E-mail copy was sent to Gary Schafer.] In article <0cuh429dvnth5uop54v6n4u0nkbh9udbfq@4ax.com>, gaschafer@comcast.net (known to some as Gary Schafer) scribed... > Cleaning out the garage. I have many older Motorola radio manuals. > Mostly motrac vintage, some micor and even some old T power. Would > like to get $5.00 each. > Let me know what you need. I will try to put a list together latter > on. Gary, have you notified the nice folk at http://batboard.batlabs.com about this? They have a most active for-sale forum. Keep the peace(es). -- Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute (Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR) http://www.bluefeathertech.com -- kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t calm "Salvadore Dali's computer has surreal ports..." Article: 102186 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: vk2ua-spamout@yahoo.com (Simon) Subject: Re: Looking for schematics for ARC-5 transmitter Message-ID: <444a2d6d.104678840@news.people.net.au> References: Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:27:12 GMT Pete The full manual for the ARC-5 range of military gear is freely available to download from the BAMA web site. Go to http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/military-kg7bz/arc5/ You may also find web sites that discuss modification, though these days people prefer to keep this sort of gear in original condition. There are also books published in the 1950s covering mods to WWII military gear that sometimes appear on Ebay. The transmitters normally need the control unit with HT power supply to operate. Simon On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:01:30 -0700, "H. P. Friedrichs" wrote: >Hello: > >Just picked up a couple of ARC-5 transmitters on ebay: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9712576670&sspagename=ADME%3AL%3AAAQ%3AUS%3A1&rd=1 > >Does anyone know where I can find schematics? I'd like to convert one of >these for 40 meter CW use. > >Also...any of you guys have a matching receiver you'd be interested in >selling? I'm not looking for a museum piece, rather, something that I >won't feel guilty about modifying. > >I can be reached at: > >hpf(at)gainbroadband(dot)com > >Pete >AC7ZL Article: 102187 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Mike" Subject: FA: HRO-500 National Receiver - Last Chance Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 23:23:25 GMT http://cgi.ebay.com/National-HRO-500-HF-Receiver-with-Rack-Mount_W0QQitemZ9713865185QQcategoryZ4673QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Thanks for looking Article: 102188 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Barry OGrady Subject: Re: FA: HRO-500 National Receiver - Last Chance Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:03:28 +1000 Message-ID: References: On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 23:23:25 GMT, "Mike" wrote: >http://cgi.ebay.com/National-HRO-500-HF-Receiver-with-Rack-Mount_W0QQitemZ9713865185QQcategoryZ4673QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > >Thanks for looking Since its not working you should take $50 for it. Barry ===== Home page http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og Article: 102189 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Barry OGrady Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:04:29 +1000 Message-ID: References: On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:00:29 -0400, Mike Nowlen wrote: >This UNBUILT kit is in excellent, near mint condition and appears to >be complete with all documentation. > >Manufactured by The Heath Company, Benton Harbor, Michigan. > >$200 Try $5. Fully working multimeters are cheap. > >Includes shipping, packing and insurance in continental US via FedEx >Ground. Outer shipping carton and additional packing will be >supplied. > >Email me if you need more details or specific information: > >Mike Nowlen >mnowlen@comcast.net Barry ===== Home page http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og Article: 102190 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:13:48 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:04:29 +1000, Barry OGrady wrote: >On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:00:29 -0400, Mike Nowlen wrote: > >>This UNBUILT kit is in excellent, near mint condition and appears to >>be complete with all documentation. >> >>Manufactured by The Heath Company, Benton Harbor, Michigan. >> >>$200 > >Try $5. Fully working multimeters are cheap. I think his spam is trying to target Heath collectors, of which there are a few around, I've read. For utility's sake, though, almost any DMM or even a good, used VTVM would be a far better deal. Article: 102191 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Barry OGrady Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 23:18:59 +1000 Message-ID: <6lvm42h2h8fnk92lrm9ssbg24q8erpvpen@4ax.com> References: On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 19:29:16 -0700, "graham" wrote: >"Barry OGrady" wrote in message >news:h4ol42tamfj8qkjsmlm9i6q7dv5vcb4iak@4ax.com... >> On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:00:29 -0400, Mike Nowlen wrote: >> >>>This UNBUILT kit is in excellent, near mint condition and appears to >>>be complete with all documentation. >>> >>>Manufactured by The Heath Company, Benton Harbor, Michigan. >>> >>>$200 >> >> Try $5. Fully working multimeters are cheap. >> >>> >>>Includes shipping, packing and insurance in continental US via FedEx >>>Ground. Outer shipping carton and additional packing will be >>>supplied. >>> >>>Email me if you need more details or specific information: >>> >>>Mike Nowlen >>>mnowlen@comcast.net >> >> Barry >> ===== >> Home page >> http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og > >> Try $5. Fully working multimeters are cheap. > >but Barry, he is not selling a fully working multimeter ... OK, so then he should pay us to take it? Barry ===== Home page http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og Article: 102192 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Bill Turner" Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - References: Message-ID: <444bb31e_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> Date: 23 Apr 2006 12:02:22 -0500 ORIGINAL MESSAGE: Barry OGrady wrote: > > Try $5. Fully working multimeters are cheap. *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** Wise up, guys. Unbuilt Heathkits are collector's items, far more valuable than a built one. Bill, W6WRT Article: 102193 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:02:40 -0700 Message-ID: References: <444bb31e_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:11:56 -0700, "graham" wrote: >> Wise up, guys. Unbuilt Heathkits are collector's items, far more >> valuable than a built one. >> >> Bill, W6WRT > >... absolutely correct I recall an unbuilt Heath AR-15 kit (WORST receiver I've ever owned in my life, bar none) going for upwards of $500 a few years back. The AR-15 was beleaguered with many problems, not the least of which was a chronicly hot-running output stage due to inadequate heat sinks. The MPX circuit was notoriously flaky on my example, as well, which traced down to bad caps. Once debugged (and with a fan on its back end) it was a pretty good FM tuner with an adequately beefy power amp. Sound was....eh. Article: 102194 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: - exray - Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:54:48 -0400 Message-ID: <124nqd0c016p574@corp.supernews.com> References: <444bb31e_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> graham wrote: > "Bill Turner" wrote in message > news:444bb31e_4@newsfeed.slurp.net... > >>ORIGINAL MESSAGE: >> >>Barry OGrady wrote: >> >> >>>Try $5. Fully working multimeters are cheap. >> >> >> >>*********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** >> >>Wise up, guys. Unbuilt Heathkits are collector's items, far more >>valuable than a built one. >> >>Bill, W6WRT > > > ... absolutely correct > > I hear the rattle of chains having been yanked :) -Bill Article: 102195 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "jim menning" References: <444bb31e_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 23:44:17 GMT "Bill Turner" wrote in message news:444bb31e_4@newsfeed.slurp.net... > > > Wise up, guys. Unbuilt Heathkits are collector's items, far more > valuable than a built one. > > Bill, W6WRT > Yep. Just keep watching this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6624140065 My guess at the final bid: $707.63 jim menning Article: 102196 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Ron Subject: Collect (Cash) on Delivery C.O.D. Date: 24 Apr 2006 00:37:51 EDT Message-ID: Having been taken by sellers on these Newsgroups a couple of times but have now learned how to do it. I would like to recommend that anyone that buys anything from an unknown seller on a Newsgroup to only pay via the United State Post Office "Cash (Collect)on Delivery". It only costs the buyer a few dollars but will for sure stop the dishonest sellers from taking advantage of an easy sell on a Newsgroup. Of course the exception to this rule is you know the person that you are buying >from and know they are honest. Thanks for reading, Ron WA0KDS Article: 102197 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Dr. Anton T. Squeegee Subject: Re: The Right Perspective: Jail the Traitors Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 21:49:10 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1145805804.687521.272630@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> In article <1145805804.687521.272630@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, NewsGuy2005@gmail.com (known to some as NewsGuy) scribed... > Frank thanks Georgia Governor Sonny Perdue for singning a sweeping *PLONK!* -- Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute (Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR) http://www.bluefeathertech.com -- kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t calm "Salvadore Dali's computer has surreal ports..." Article: 102198 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Heytubeguy" Subject: FA:GATES 4H 3KV a Amp CHOKE +MO PARTS Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:41:28 GMT Heavy Gates 4H 3KV at 1 A choke (one of two) + more parts and stuff: see at: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZheytubeguy Tnx heytubeguy Article: 102199 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Bill Turner" Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - References: <444bb31e_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> <1145904838.636668.111860@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <444d2d3e_1@newsfeed.slurp.net> Date: 24 Apr 2006 14:55:42 -0500 ORIGINAL MESSAGE: Paul Dietenberger wrote: > Seriously, what > makes unbuilt kit collectors tick? Not judging, just really curious. *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** Nostalgia, I'm sure. Non-hams or non-kit builders probably would not be interested at all. Bill, W6WRT Article: 102200 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "guess who?" Subject: test don't read Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:24:45 -0700 Message-ID: <124qqvr9vs2g1b3@corp.supernews.com> Article: 102201 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: <444bb31e_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - Message-ID: <6_e3g.15396$NG.10809@dukeread10> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:31:42 -0400 "jim menning" wrote in message news:ljU2g.3274$1J4.198@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > Yep. Just keep watching this one: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6624140065 > > My guess at the final bid: $707.63 > > jim menning > I believe Zenith "persuaded" to discontinue that particular kit... It was a too obvious TO 3000 clone. I'd bet it is also a rare model in its own right. pete Article: 102202 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "jim menning" References: <444bb31e_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> <6_e3g.15396$NG.10809@dukeread10> Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - Message-ID: <33f3g.3344$1J4.604@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 01:37:03 GMT " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:6_e3g.15396$NG.10809@dukeread10... > > "jim menning" wrote in message > news:ljU2g.3274$1J4.198@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... >> > Yep. Just keep watching this one: >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6624140065 >> >> My guess at the final bid: $707.63 >> >> jim menning >> > > I believe Zenith "persuaded" to discontinue that particular kit... It was a > too obvious > TO 3000 clone. I'd bet it is also a rare model in its own right. > > pete > > Didn't Zenith and Heathkit team up in their later years? jim menning Article: 102203 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Message-ID: <444D7D6E.67DA4AD3@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - References: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 01:38:39 GMT Steven wrote: > > To the poster: > > The way Google compiles these things, I could hope you are not "Cin" in > alt.support.grief and we don't think our Bill could be a regular poster > to alt.sex.passwords (sic), and no I didn't look. Since we already have > an existing Bill Turner, who is QUITE well known, and you seem to be a > concern to him (and since you've been here before as I recall), could > you think about adopting a different tag at the least? > > Bill has had enough problems lately. Look at the headers, dumbass. THIS Bill Turner is a regular poster on the news:rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors newsgroup so why should he have to change his name to please your paranoid little mind? You would have seen that the thread is cross posted to three newsgroups, if you had bothered to look. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 102204 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Message-ID: <444D7E20.301ECD56@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - References: <444bb31e_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> <6_e3g.15396$NG.10809@dukeread10> <33f3g.3344$1J4.604@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 01:41:36 GMT jim menning wrote: > > " Uncle Peter" wrote in message > news:6_e3g.15396$NG.10809@dukeread10... > > > > "jim menning" wrote in message > > news:ljU2g.3274$1J4.198@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > >> > Yep. Just keep watching this one: > >> > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6624140065 > >> > >> My guess at the final bid: $707.63 > >> > >> jim menning > >> > > > > I believe Zenith "persuaded" to discontinue that particular kit... It was a > > too obvious > > TO 3000 clone. I'd bet it is also a rare model in its own right. > > > > pete > > > > > > Didn't Zenith and Heathkit team up in their later years? > > jim menning Zenith bought Heathkit to become "established" in the personal computer business to bid on a number of computer contracts with the US military. I had the news clipping somewhere from a trade journal, but I haven't seen it in some time. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 102205 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Rob Mills" References: <444bb31e_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> <6_e3g.15396$NG.10809@dukeread10> <33f3g.3344$1J4.604@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:36:35 -0500 "jim menning" wrote in message news:33f3g.3344$1J4.604@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... >>> Didn't Zenith and Heathkit team up in their later years?<<< I've seen the name Heath/Zenith on motion sensing lights sold by Home Depot just recently. RM~