Thanks for pointing this out. Now that you've said it,it is quite obvious.
Until you said it, it hadn't been. As a matter of fact, your message was
just what I needed to drop this one theory, reread Carl's message, and
understand what was going on. Thanks.
I'm still not sure, however, whether Carl sees this as a settled fact, based
on his prior message. I seem to recall something about foxes sneaking in and
spoiling the vineyards...
> Its early position in the sentence (the common position for relatives, at
least
> in Koine) somewhat obscures its grammatical function, and a little
> extra thinking is required to figure out the grammatical road map.
Yes. Alas, we little Greeks do lots of thinking. I'm quite sure that I do
much more thinking about a passage than you do, and have much less to show
for it. So I really appreciate your comments about focussing on the subject/
object relationships. I hadn't been, and this is really helpful.
> In summary, Jesus began what? To do and to teach. He did and taught
> what? The things represented by hWN. It seems quite obvious that the
> pronoun is the object of the infinitives, attracted from the
> accusative to agree with the genitive antecedent. Why jump through
> grammatical hoops when there is such a straightforward explanation?
This is very clear and helpful. I've checked it off for now -- but I did it in
pencil since I'm not sure to what extent Carl sees this as a settled issue.
Jonathan
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