Paul Zellmer wrote;
>Sorry to be so dense, Carl. I guess this is a form that I always put
>under another classification, and so never thought out the grammars when
>I hit the discussions. Are you saying that the subjective genitive is
>found in clauses with transitive verbs,
The word is not clauses but phrases. The subjective or objective genitive
is a noun (or any noun substitute) in the genitive that modifies a noun of
action, i.e., "love" implies someone is doing the loving. e.g. THS AGAPHS
TOU CHRISTOU in Rom. 8:35, "the love which Christ has for us." Love
implies that Christ has done something (loved) us. The key is that THS
AGAPHS, a noun of action is modified by TOU CHRISTOU, a subjective
genitive.
>but genitive absolutes are found
>with [expressed or implied] intransitives? Again, since I am away from
>my research materials, could someone help with examples that grammars
>give to demonstrate the subjective genitive? If you feel that it is not
>worth cluttering up the list with these (and it probably isn't), feel
>free to responde to me off-line.
>
Again the key to the genitive absolute is a noun or pronoun in the genitive
used with a participle (in the NT almost exclusively ptc) also in the
genitive case. The noun or pronoun in the genitive case functions as the
subject of the action or state of being indicated by the participle. Also
the whole structure is related to the main clause only in idea. The verb in
the main clause will even have a different subject. e.g. CHRONIZONTOS TOU
NUMFIOU of Mt. 25:5 = "While the bridegroom tarried". Most of these in the
NT have an adverbial (often a temporal) function in the larger sentence.
Carlton L. Winbery
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Louisiana College
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