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b-greek-digest              Friday, 3 March 1995        Volume 01 : Number 594

In this issue:

        Re: Mounce, Basics of Biblical Greek
        Mounce's Flashcard Program at condor.cs.andrews.edu
        Re: Mounce's Flashcard Program at condor.cs.andrews.edu
        Mounce Flashcards program
        To: b-greek@virginia.edu
        How to unsubscribe 
        hebrew/greek flashcards
        Many Thanks for the insights
        Re: Mounce's Flashcard Program at condor.cs.andrews.edu
        Verbs and Participles
        Re: Verbs and Participles
        Re: hebrew/greek flashcards 
        Re: Mounce's Flashcard Program at condor.cs.andrews.edu 

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From: Carl W Conrad <cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 05:14:20 -0600 (GMT-0600)
Subject: Re: Mounce, Basics of Biblical Greek

On Wed, 1 Mar 1995, John Calvin Hall wrote:
> We've been using Machen's "NT Greek for Beginners" for eons and have found
> it to be priceless to new Greek students.  A couple of years ago, we were
> misinformed that Machen was no longer in print, and we switched to another
> textbook (the title aludes me at the moment). Well, to make a long story
> short, those first year students that had that book, are now third year
> Greek students, and they are being eaten alive in class!!! We IMMEDIATELY
> switched back the next year and many of them went out and bought a copy of
> Machen just to get a more solid foundation..... besides, anyone who
> dedicates a Greek text book to his mother, must be pretty awesome!!! =)
 
This is covering old territory (so far as list members are concerned, but 
I just have to say this about Machen (again). For a traditional-type 
book, Machen works and I HAVE used it often in the past--but how can 
ANYBODY today ask students to buy a textbook sold at such an OBSCENE price? 

Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University
One Brookings Drive, St. Louis, MO 63130, USA
(314) 935-4018
cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu  OR cwc@oui.com


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From: "James K. Tauber" <jtauber@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 20:24:22 +0800 (WST)
Subject: Mounce's Flashcard Program at condor.cs.andrews.edu

A few weeks ago, Bill Mounce mentioned that a flashcard program was 
available for ftp from condor.cs.andrews.edu

I have been unable to connect to condor.cs.andrews.edu ever since and 
I've tried on many different occassions. Does anybody know if there is 
another site that would have what Bill's talking about?

James K. Tauber <jtauber@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>
4th year Honours Student, Centre for Linguistics
University of Western Australia, WA 6009, AUSTRALIA
Hellenistic Greek Linguistics Pages: http://www.uwa.edu.au/HGrk


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From: Carl W Conrad <cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 08:41:31 -0600 (GMT-0600)
Subject: Re: Mounce's Flashcard Program at condor.cs.andrews.edu

On Thu, 2 Mar 1995, James K. Tauber wrote:
> A few weeks ago, Bill Mounce mentioned that a flashcard program was 
> available for ftp from condor.cs.andrews.edu
> 
> I have been unable to connect to condor.cs.andrews.edu ever since and 
> I've tried on many different occassions. Does anybody know if there is 
> another site that would have what Bill's talking about?

James,

It's called "Flash Works" and it is a good program (for the Mac) that is, 
in fact, a shell that works with any .text file list of words. Mounce has 
supplied text files for Greek (Koine, of course), Hebrew, French and 
German, and he has also supplied his own TT fonts for Hebrew and Greek. 
It is available for FTP from 
sumex-aim.stanford.edu/info-mac/app/flash-works ... You might find it 
easier to get it from our mirror here at Washington U., where you can get 
it by WWW using Lynx. On the other hand, I have it handy, and can send it 
to you in .hqx form, if you'd like, and if you do, as I think I recall, 
use a Mac.

Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University
One Brookings Drive, St. Louis, MO 63130, USA
(314) 935-4018
cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu  OR cwc@oui.com


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From: Carl W Conrad <cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 08:46:30 -0600 (GMT-0600)
Subject: Mounce Flashcards program

James et al.:

The URL for the WU mirror archive of sumex-aim is:

http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/systems/mac/info-mac/

This is usually not as busy as the Stanford archive.

Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University
One Brookings Drive, St. Louis, MO 63130, USA
(314) 935-4018
cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu  OR cwc@oui.com


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From: Wayne Soong <ws18@cornell.edu>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 11:17:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: To: b-greek@virginia.edu

unsubscribe b-greek

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Subject: How to unsubscribe 

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From: "Marmorstein, Art" <marmorsa@wolf.northern.edu>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 95 12:00:00 CST
Subject: hebrew/greek flashcards

Does anyone know of a program that will allow me to make Hebrew and Greek 
flashcards, i.e. that will give me scalable Hebrew and Greek fonts?

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From: William Brooks <wjbrooks@olympus.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 11:14:15 -0800
Subject: Many Thanks for the insights

I wish to say "THANK YOU" to all of you who gave me added insights into the
pursuit of doctoral studies. I learned the the road is a bit longer and more
difficult than what I had thought it would be. Then, too, there's that pesky
problem of finding a job after all the thousands of $$ are spent. I'll
respond to some of you in private e-mail.

Again, thanks

William


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From: Kenneth Litwak <kenneth@sybase.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 95 11:38:54 PST
Subject: Re: Mounce's Flashcard Program at condor.cs.andrews.edu

> 
> It's called "Flash Works" and it is a good program (for the Mac) that is

This program is only for the MAC, there's no PC version?  Bummer.  Glad I
haven't tried downloading it, though I was planning on it.

Ken Litwak

> in fact, a shell that works with any .text file list of words. Mounce has 
> supplied text files for Greek (Koine, of course), Hebrew, French and 
> German, and he has also supplied his own TT fonts for Hebrew and Greek. 
> It is available for FTP from 
> sumex-aim.stanford.edu/info-mac/app/flash-works ... You might find it 
> easier to get it from our mirror here at Washington U., where you can get 
> it by WWW using Lynx. On the other hand, I have it handy, and can send it 
> to you in .hqx form, if you'd like, and if you do, as I think I recall, 
> use a Mac.
> 
> Carl W. Conrad
> Department of Classics, Washington University
> One Brookings Drive, St. Louis, MO 63130, USA
> (314) 935-4018
> cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu  OR cwc@oui.com
> 
> 

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From: Larry Chouinard <fa78935@kcc.edu>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 15:28:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Verbs and Participles

Stanley Porter suggests that the time relation between the participle and 
main verb can be signaled by their relative positions: i.e., a participle 
before the verb indicates antecedent time, while a participle after the 
verb indicates subsequent time.  I wonder if anyone else has verified 
this observation?

Larry Chouinard
Kentucky Christian College

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From: "CALVIN L. PORTER" <CPORTER@butler.edu>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 16:55:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Verbs and Participles

Stanley Porter suggests that the time relation between the participle and 
main verb can be signaled by their relative positions: i.e., a participle 
before the verb indicates antecedent time, while a participle after the 
verb indicates subsequent time.  I wonder if anyone else has verified 
this observation?

Larry Chouinard
Kentucky Christian College
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Where does Stanley Porter make this suggestion?  Can you provide us a 
reference?  Thanks.

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From: "L. Brown" <budman@primenet.com>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 22:32:09 -0700
Subject: Re: hebrew/greek flashcards 

Art,

What environment? DOS, Windows or other?
At 12:00 PM 3/2/95 CST, Marmorstein, Art wrote:
>Does anyone know of a program that will allow me to make Hebrew and Greek 
>flashcards, i.e. that will give me scalable Hebrew and Greek fonts?
>
>
>
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From: JohnFrith@aol.com
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 00:45:33 -0500
Subject: Re: Mounce's Flashcard Program at condor.cs.andrews.edu 

>This program is only for the MAC, there's no PC version?  Bummer.  Glad I
>haven't tried downloading it, though I was planning on it.

The program is available in Mac, Dos and Windows versions.  Bill's parsing
program as far as I know is only available in Mac format.  If you are using
the textbook in class, contact Zondervan academic division (Jack Kraght) and
they will get you copies.  Mounce's policy is that anyone purchacing the
grammar is automatically licenced to use the software.  

Chip Hard, Philadelphia College of Bible.


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