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b-greek-digest Monday, 10 July 1995 Volume 01 : Number 777
In this issue:
Ph.D. Programs in Textual Criticism, Again
Re: End of Mark Possibilities
Spelling of Irenaeus
Re: Biblical Greek Library
BG: Style of End of Mark
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From: Nichael Lynn Cramer <nichael@sover.net>
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 20:22:15 -0400
Subject: Ph.D. Programs in Textual Criticism, Again
A month or so back, there was a brief discussion on this list about various
programs available for study in (particularly NT) Textual Criticism.
As a follow up, perhaps those who responded before (or anyone else, for
that matter) would answer a related question on this topic: What
qualifications and/or background --both at the level of specific course
work and previous field(s) of study-- would you expect to see in a student
who approached you as a candidate?
Nichael Cramer
nichael@sover.net
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From: Bruce Terry <terry@bible.acu.edu>
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 1995 21:35:15 CST
Subject: Re: End of Mark Possibilities
On Fri, 7 Jul 1995, Carlton Winbery wrote:
> Papias
>(probably about 125), according to Eusebius, tells of a Christian (Justus, I
>think) who accidently drank poison and survived (after prayers). Tatian (ca.
>160) clearly used the long ending in making his Diatessaron. Hence, I would
>say that the origin of the ending may have been in the early to middle second
>century by a (charismatic) scribe who was acquainted with these stories.
Based upon reports that those who were in WWII tell me about that war, I would
say that people clearly remember events 50 years previous. Taking that fact
with Tatian in the East treating the ending of Mark as scripture about A.D.
160 and Irenius in the West quoting Mark 16:19 as written by Mark about A.D.
180, I would say that the latest possible date for the composition of the
long ending of Mark is in the first quarter of the second century, and it may
well be earlier. This is based upon the fact that these men were not ignorant
people, but were well-educated leaders in the second century. Surely the fact
that the ending of Mark was only recently composed could not have been
completely forgotten in early scholarly circles within less than half a century.
> The
>vocabulary and style speak against Markan construction.
This is the common argument for well over 100 years. In a study I did a few
years ago, I found elsewhere in Mark almost every stylistic device which is
located in the long ending and claimed to be non-Markan. The evidence is not
nearly as strong as regards vocabulary and style as is usually claimed.
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Bruce Terry E-MAIL: terry@bible.acu.edu
Box 8426, ACU Station Phone: 915/674-3759
Abilene, Texas 79699 Fax: 915/674-3769
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From: Bruce Terry <terry@bible.acu.edu>
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 1995 21:42:07 CST
Subject: Spelling of Irenaeus
Re: my very recent post on the End of Mark Possibilities
Sorry, the correct spelling of the name of the second century bishop of Lyons
is Irenaeus.
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Bruce Terry E-MAIL: terry@bible.acu.edu
Box 8426, ACU Station Phone: 915/674-3759
Abilene, Texas 79699 Fax: 915/674-3769
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From: Bruce Terry <terry@bible.acu.edu>
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 1995 21:57:03 CST
Subject: Re: Biblical Greek Library
On Fri, 7 Jul 1995, Rod Rilea wrote:
>I recently picked up a copy of Online Bible for the Mac, and a copy of the
>TR-BYZ-N26 Greek text module, to help me a long in my pursuits. I am
>interested in knowing more about how to begin reading Biblical Greek with a
>limited vocabulary, and also where should I begin in learning Greek
>vocabulary, and how much time should I spend studying Greek Vocabulary? I
>have recently developed some flash cards of Greek vocabulary using
>Microsoft Works 3.0 for the Mac, and I began with "Lexical Aids For
>Students Of New Testament Greek" by Bruce M. Metzger. The set of vocab.
>words I am using are those that he listed as being found 500 times in the
>New Testament. Is this a good place to start, or would I better off
>pulling words our of my daily readings of the Biblical Greek New Testament?
Rod--
Metzger's lists are a good place to start, but to really learn the words you
must use them in daily reading as well as memorizing them. Get a copy of Kubo
and a Greek NT (either NA26/27 or UBS 3/4). Read a verse translating as much
as possible without help from Kubo. Then read it using Kubo as an aid. Write
down, look up (in Thayers or BAG(D)) the meaning of, and learn all words in
your reading NOT listed in Kubo. There is no reason to memorize words used
only once in the New Testament when you are just beginning. Use this method
for selective memorization of the most useful words.
- --Bruce
P.S. If you really spend 30 minutes a day on Greek, you will in time learn
more than just basic Greek.
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Bruce Terry E-MAIL: terry@bible.acu.edu
Box 8426, ACU Station Phone: 915/674-3759
Abilene, Texas 79699 Fax: 915/674-3769
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From: Bruce Terry <terry@bible.acu.edu>
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 00:12:02 CST
Subject: BG: Style of End of Mark
In a posting yesterday, I related that I had previously done a study showing
that most of the stylistic features in the last twelve verses of Mark are
found elsewhere in Mark. For those of you interested in this, I have posted
the write-up of that study on anonymous FTP at bible.acu.edu in the
subdirectory \greek\papers.
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Bruce Terry E-MAIL: terry@bible.acu.edu
Box 8426, ACU Station Phone: 915/674-3759
Abilene, Texas 79699 Fax: 915/674-3769
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