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b-greek-digest Wednesday, 8 November 1995 Volume 01 : Number 944
In this issue:
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Re Online Bible
ALLC/ACH '96 - Reminder
Re: Lk 19:1-10: ambiguous present tense
Re: Discourse Analysis
TO TELEION / Thanks
Electronic citation
International GNT project
Jno. 21:15-17
Jno. 21:15-17
Periphrastic Future Perfect
Re: Romans 4:13
Baby Greek
SWAHILI BIBLE (fwd)
Theological Research Database/Thesis & Dissertations
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From: George Chryssogelos <geo@hol.gr>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:39:48 -0200
Subject: [none]
POSTPONE GREEK-L MAIL POSTPONE
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From: Francesco Giannangeli <giannang@u308.nancy.inserm.fr>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:19:08 +0100
Subject: Re Online Bible
From: Karl_Schulte-CKS005@email.mot.com
Date: 7 Nov 95 16:02:07 -0600
Subject: Online Bible
>Does anyone know where to get (on net/bbs)(www preferred) the Oline Bible?
The latest version of OLB (2.5.2) is on:
ftp.std.com/obi/Religion/Online.Bible (images of 1.4Mb disks)
For Europe:
ftp.ask.uni-karlsruhe.de/pub/miscx/bible/OLB
GIANNANGELI Francesco
38, rue Aristide Briand
54510 TOMBLAINE - France / E-mail: giannang@u308.nancy.inserm.fr
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From: "Espen S. Ore" <Espen.Ore@hd.uib.no>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:11:29 +0100
Subject: ALLC/ACH '96 - Reminder
This has been posted on various lists. Please excuse me if you receive
multiple copies.
The deadline for abstracts for individual papers and sessions is November
30, 1995. The deadline for poster sessions and demonstrations is january
15, 1996. For the full Call for Papers, please see:
<http://www.hd.uib.no/allc-ach96.html>
or contact:
Espen.Ore@hd.uib.no
Yours,
Espen S. Ore
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Espen Ore NB! New phone number! Tel: + 47 55 58 28 65
Norwegian Computing Centre for the Humanities Fax: + 47 55 58 94 70
Bergen, NORWAY
Espen.Ore@hd.uib.no
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From: Mike Adams <mikadams@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 07:13:28 -0800
Subject: Re: Lk 19:1-10: ambiguous present tense
You wrote:
>I am not trying to argue for Fitzmyer's
>interpretation, Phil, but I want to be clear on your understanding of
this
>present tense. Isn't it context alone that decides you that the
meaning of
>DIDWMI here is future? If all other things were void of indication,
would
>the form not be capable of expressing the speaker's sense that this is
what
>he regularly and normally does--has done and will continue doing? I'm
>trying to ascertain whether, apart from other indications in the
narrative,
>Fitzmyer's understanding of the present tense is excluded from
>consideration.
>
>Carl W. Conrad
I didn't have time to write sooner, but here's my .02. I agree with
Phil and David about the present being a "future starting now" tense.
When I yell at my daughter to clean her room NOW, she replies, "I AM
cleaning it." Is she really cleaning it now? Probably yes. Was she
cleaning it before I spoke. Probably no. Would the future tense be
appropriate for her to use the future tense? Not unless she wants
trouble. Use of the future in such a case implies insincerity, the
present implies resolve.
You also pointed out that Zaccheus said: "EI TINOS TI ESUKOFANTHSA",
that he'd pay back four fold.
My thoughts on that:
1. If it were his common practice to swindle, and a considerable
portion of his income was gained from overcharging, then after giving
half his goods to the poor it would be impossible to pay back four-fold
any swindled money from the remaining half. To me this indicates that
Zaccheus could not have been the stereotypical swindling tax gatherer.
2. It could not have reasonably been his previous pattern to
swindle then repay four-fold, swindle, pay back, swindle, pay back...
Such behavior defies comprehension.
3. It appears to be a genuine desire inspired at that moment to
clear his slate by diligently checking his records for any errors and
making generous restitution.
Fitzmyer seems to have a good point in that Zaccheus was likely more
righteous than the typical tax gatherer of the time, even before his
encounter with Jesus. Because of his earnestness in seeking Jesus, to
the point of climbing a tree, he seemed to have a genuined "heart
toward God" in contrast to the Pharisees who condemned him. It could
be, then, that his first statement about giving to the poor reflected
an ongoing practice.
However, because it was paired with a resolution, I believe that the
first statement was also one of resolve. If the present tense here is
ambiguous, and would most likely be interpreted to indicate future
action starting now... And if Zaccheus had already been in the practice
of giving half to the poor and wanted that fact to be known, I think
that he (and the writer) would have made a greater effort to clarify
this point.
Thanks for the question. It has stimulated an interesting discussion in
this household as well as much fruitful meditation.
Ellen
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From: Bruce Terry <terry@bible.acu.edu>
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 10:20:27 CST
Subject: Re: Discourse Analysis
On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Allan Lyons wrote:
>I am looking for any information/resources (books, articles, URLs,
>etc.) that deal with discourse analysis and the Biblical text. How is
>discourse analysis used? What does discourse analysis offer to the
>biblical scholar? etc. If anyone is interested, they could contact me
>for a summary.
In answer to the above question, I repost the following bibliography:
Longacre, Robert E. 1989. Joseph: A story of divine providence. Winona Lake,
IN: Eisenbrauns.
Bergen, Robert L. 1994. Biblical Hebrew and discourse linguistics. Winona
Lake, IN: Eisenbrauns.
Longacre, Robert E. 1983. The grammar of discourse. New York: Plenum Press.
Wirth, J. (ed.). 1985. Beyond the sentence. Ann Arbor, MI: Karome.
Givon, Talmy (ed.). 1979. Discourse and syntax. Syntax and Semantics series
12. New York: Academic Press.
Halliday, M.A.K., and R. Hasan. 1976. Cohesion in English. London: Longmans.
Levinsohn, Stephen H. 1987. Textual connections in Acts. Society of Biblical
Literature Monograph Series. Atlanta: Scholars Press.
Levinsohn, Stephen H. 1992. Discourse features of New Testament Greek. Dallas:
Summer Institute of Linguistics.
Terry, Ralph Bruce. 1995. A discourse analysis of First Corinthians.
Publications in Linguistics 120. Dallas: SIL/UTA.
Grimes, Joseph E. 1972. The thread of discourse. Janua Linguarum 207. The
Hague: Mouton.
Black, David Alan (ed.). 1992. Linguistics and New Testament interpretation.
Nashville: Broadman Press.
Callow, Kathleen. 1974. Discourse considerations in translating the Word of
God. Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan.
Louw, Johannes P. 1982. Semantics of New Testament Greek. The Society of
Biblical Literature Semeia Studies. Philadelphia: Fortress Press.
van Dijk, Teun A. 1972. Text and context. New York: Longman House.
de Beaugrande, Robert-Alain and Wolfgang Ulrich Dressler. 1981. Introduction
to text linguistics. New York: Longman.
Brown, Gillian and George Yule. 1983. Discourse analysis. Cambridge: Cambridge
University Press.
Dover, K. J. 1960. Greek word order. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
Booth, Steven Craig. 1991. A discourse analysis of selected peak marking
features in the gospel of John. Ph.D. dissertation. Southwestern Baptist
Theological Seminary.
Clendenen, Ewell Ray. 1989. The interpretation of biblical Hebrew hortatory
texts: A textlinguistic approach to the book of Malachi. Ph.D. dissertation.
University of Texas at Arlington.
Friberg, Timothy. 1978. The discourse structure of the Greek text of
Galatians. M.A. thesis. University of Minnesota.
Friberg, Timothy. 1982. New Testament Greek word order in light of discourse
considerations. Ph.D. dissertation. University of Minnesota.
Miehle, Helen Louise. 1981. Theme in Greek hortatory discourse: van Dijk and
Beekman-Callow approaches applied to 1 John. Ph.D. dissertation. University of
Texas at Arlington.
Waechter, Steven Lloyd. 1994. An analysis of the literary structure of the
book of Revelation according to textlinguistic methods. Th.D. dissertation.
Mid-America Baptist Theological Seminary.
Cervin, Richard S. 1990. Word order in ancient Greek. Ph.D. dissertation.
University of Illinois.
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Bruce Terry E-MAIL: terry@bible.acu.edu
Box 8426, ACU Station Phone: 915/674-3759
Abilene, Texas 79699 Fax: 915/674-3769
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From: BBezdek@aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:06:12 -0500
Subject: TO TELEION / Thanks
To all responders:
Thank you for the responses that I received regarding TO TELEION and the
completed scriptures. It looks like I have two options: Admit that I have
been wrong, that there really is no textual support for the "scriptures"
position, or ignore the responses (what I have learned and go on beleiving
and teaching the error). to maintain a comfortable doctrinal position.
I had assumed that what I was taught was correct without checking it out
myself. If I had, I would not have asked the question in the first place,
because the conclusion would have been rather obvious.
Accepting the fact that I was wrong on this, also means that I have to
rethink the whole doctrine on spiritual gifts, which I am doing. The
designation of TO TELEION as the Scriptures rather neatly dispenses with the
need for miraculous spiritual gifts after the New Testament canon. There may
be other reasons for the "cessation" position, but I can't use that one any
more.
Forever Growing
Byron T. Bezdek
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From: "Edgar M. Krentz" <emkrentz@mcs.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:47:23 -0500
Subject: Electronic citation
I saw this posted on another discussion group. thought it might be
interesting, since we had a string on citing materials on b-greek recently.
I intend to share this with students at our seminary. And, yes, I do have
permission to post it, as the following shows:
From: "Mel Page" <PAGEM@ETSUARTS.EAST-TENN-ST.EDU>
Organization: East Tennessee State University
To: emkrentz@mcs.com (Edgar M. Krentz)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 21:41:45 GMT-5
Subject: Re: Internet Citation Guide
Thanks for the interest! Indeed, feel free to repost the guide. I
will add your name to a list of interested people to whom I will send
updates of the Guide. Indeed, one is likely in the next two or
three weeks.
Mel Page
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* A BRIEF CITATION GUIDE FOR *
* INTERNET SOURCES IN HISTORY AND THE HUMANITIES *
**************************************************
by
Melvin E. Page
<pagem@etsuarts.east-tenn-st.edu>
for
H-AFRICA <h-africa@msu.edu>
Humanities-on-Line
and
History Department
East Tennessee State University
The following suggestions for citations of Internet sources in
history and the historically based humanities are derived from the
essential principles of academic citation in Kate L. Turabian,
*A Manual for Writers of Term Papers, Theses, and Dissertations,
*5th ed. (Chicago, University of Chicago Press, 1987). I have also
draw upon suggestions from some of the works listed below. The
guide has been improved by the the students of my Historical
Methods classes at East Tennessee State University and my fellow
H-AFRICA editors whom I thank for their assistance.
Since the Internet is an evolving institution, this guide is not
intended to be definitive. Corrections, additions, comments,
suggestions, and criticisms are therefore welcome. Please address
them to the author at:
pagem@etsuarts.east-tenn-st.edu
When the need for revisions and updates become apparent, new versions
of the guide will be issued.
=======================
Bibliographic Citations
=======================
Basic citation components and punctuation
*****************************************
Author's Last Name, First Name. [author's internet address, if
available]. "Title of Work" or "title line of message." In
"Title of Complete Work" or title of list/site as appropriate.
[internet address]. Date, if available.
The samples below indicate how citations of particular electronic
sources might be made.
Listserv Messages
*****************
Walsh, Gretchen. [gwalsh@acs.bu.edu]. "REPLY: Using African
newspapers in teaching." In H-AFRICA. [h-africa@msu.edu].
18 October 1995.
World Wide Web
**************
Limb, Peter. "Relationships between Labour & African Nationalist/
Liberation Movements in Southern Africa." [http://neal.ctstateu.
edu/history/world_history/archives/limb-l.html]. May 1992.
FTP Site
********
Heinrich, Gregor. [100303.100@compuserve.com]. "Where There Is
Beauty, There is Hope: Sau Tome e Principe." [ftp.cs.ubc.ca/
pub/local/FAQ/african/gen/saoep.txt]. July 1994.
Gopher Site
***********
"Democratic Party Platform, 1860." [wiretap.spies.com Wiretap Online
Library/civic & Historical/Political Platforms of the U.S.]
18 June 1860.
Kirshenblatt-Gimblett, Barbara. "Making Difference." [gopher.uic.edu
The Researcher/History/H-Net/H-Amstdy (American Studies)/Essays &
Discussions About American Studies]. 20 July 1995.
Usenet Group Messages
*********************
Dell, Thomas. [dell@wiretap.spies.com]. "[EDTECH] EMG: Sacred Texts
(Networked Electronic Versions)." In [alt.etext]. 4 February
1993.
Legg, Sonya. [legg@harquebus.cgd.ucar.edu]. "African history book
list." In [soc.culture.african]. 5 September 1994.
E-mail Messages
***************
Page, Mel. [pagem@etsuarts.east-tenn-st.edu]. "African dance...and
Malawi." Private e-mail message to Masankho Banda, [mbanda@igc.
apc.org]. 28 November 1994.
==============================
Footnote and Endnote Citations
==============================
Basic citation components and punctuation
*****************************************
<note number> Author's First name and Last name, [author's
internet address, if available], "Title of Work" or "title line
of message," in "Title of Complete Work" or title of list/site as
appropriate, [internet address], date if available.
The examples below indicate how citations of particular electronic
sources might be made.
Listserv Messages
*****************
<1> Gretchen Walsh, [gwalsh@acs.bu.edu], "REPLY: Using African
newspapers in teaching," in H-AFRICA, [h-africa@msu.edu], 18 October
1995.
World Wide Web
**************
<2> Peter Limb, "Relationships between Labour & African
Nationalist/Liberation Movements in Southern Africa," [http://neal.
ctstateu.edu/history/world_history/archives/limb-l.html], May 1992.
FTP Site
********
<3> Gregor Heinrich, [100303.100@compuserve.com], "Where There Is
Beauty, There is Hope: Sao Tome e Principe," [ftp.cs.ubc.ca/pub/
local/FAQ/african/gen/saoep.txt], July 1994.
<4> Sonya Legg, [legg@harquebus.cgd.ucar.edu], "African history
book list," in [soc.culture.african], 5 September 1994.
Gopher Site
***********
<5> "Democratic Party Platform, 1860," [wiretap.spies.com
Wiretap Online Library/civic & Historical/Political Platforms of the
U.S.], 18 June 1860.
<6> Barbara Kirshenblatt-Gimblett, "Making Difference,"
[gopher.uic.edu The Researcher/History/H-Net/H-Amstdy (American
Studies)/Essays & Discussions About American Studies], 20 July 1995.
Usenet Group Messages
*********************
<7>Thomas Dell, [dell@wiretap.spies.com] "[EDTECH] EMG: Sacred
Texts (Networked Electronic Versions)," in [alt.etext], 4 February
1993.
E-Mail Messages
***************
<8> Mel Page, [pagem@etsuarts.east-tenn-st.edu], "African
dance...and Malawi," private e-mail message to Masankho Banda,
[mbanda@igc.apc.org], 28 November 1994.
================================================
Additional Source Material on Internet Citations
================================================
Dodd, Sue A. "Bibliographic References for Computer Files in the
Social Sciences: A Discussion Paper." [gopher://info.monash.
edu.au:70/00/handy/cites]. Revised May 1990. {Published in
*IASSIST Quarterly*, 14, 2(1990): 14-17.}
Li, Xia and Nancy Crane. *Electronic Style: A Guide to Citing
Electronic Information*. Westport: Meckler, 1993.
University of Chicago Press *Chicago Guide to Preparing Electronic
Manuscripts: for Authors and Publishers*. Chicago: University
of Chicago Press, 1987.
Walker, Janice R. "MLA-Style Citations of Internet Sources."
[http://www.cas.usf.edu/english/walker/janice.html].
April 1995.
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version 1.1 30 October 1995
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Copyright Melvin E. Page, 1995.
This document may be reproduced and redistributed, but only in its
entirety and with full acknowledgement of its source and authorship.
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Hope you find this useful.
Edgar Krentz, New Testament
Lutheran School of Theology at Chicago
Tel.: 312-256-0752; (H) 312-947-8105
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From: "Edgar M. Krentz" <emkrentz@mcs.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:47:32 -0500
Subject: International GNT project
Some tiome ago there was a thread that spoke of collating NT MSS and
entering them on computers.
People interested in this type of project might want to look at the report
by Paul R. McReynolds: "Announcement: International Greek New Testament
Project A Progress Report" in _Novum Testamentum_ 37,3 (July 1995) 301.
He reports that the team has collated 21 uncials andcompleted 69 minuscule
collations, with 11 electronic collations. They have developed a software
program for collating MSS. He also says: "Indeed, the work even as it
progreses cn be made available." The Ancient Biblical Manuscript Center in
Claremont, CA is serving as the repository. He also states the need for
additional volunteer collators. If interested, check out the article.
The most recent report from the Muenster Institute for NT Textual studies,
covering the years 1992-1994, was also published in mid-1995. It contains a
report on the work of the institute, an article on the textual history of
the Syriac Harkeleian NT, an article on the methodology of evaluating the
text of citations in church fathers, and a list of publications currently
available.
Edgar Krentz, New Testament
Lutheran School of Theology at Chicago
Tel.: 312-256-0752; (H) 312-947-8105
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From: Eric Vaughan <jevaughan@sauaca.saumag.edu>
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 12:48:24 CST
Subject: Jno. 21:15-17
I was discussing this passage with someone a good while ago, and I'd like to know what you think.
Jesus asks Simon, "AGAPAS ME" But Simon answers, "FILW SE" This happens twice and then Jesus
finally asks the question Simon had been answering, "FILEIS ME;" Is this a deliberate refusal to
answer Jesus' question on Simon's part (and why) or do you think that John's recount of the story is
not very careful and this difference has little significance? I understand the symbolism of Simon's
three confessions of love after denying Christ three times, but why would he only half answer Jesus'
question? Is the difference John's fault or Simon's?
I also have the same question about "BOSKA/POIMAINE TA ARNIA/PROBATA MOU"
Eric Vaughan
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From: Eric Vaughan <jevaughan@sauaca.saumag.edu>
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 12:50:37 CST
Subject: Jno. 21:15-17
I was discussing this passage with someone a good while ago, and I'd like to know what you think.
Jesus asks Simon, "AGAPAS ME" But Simon answers, "FILW SE" This happens twice and then Jesus
finally asks the question Simon had been answering, "FILEIS ME;" Is this a deliberate refusal to
answer Jesus' question on Simon's part (and why) or do you think that John's recount of the story is
not very careful and this difference has little significance? I understand the symbolism of Simon's
three confessions of love after denying Christ three times, but why would he only half answer Jesus'
question? Is the difference John's fault or Simon's?
I also have the same question about "BOSKA/POIMAINE TA ARNIA/PROBATA MOU"
Eric Vaughan
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From: Bruce Terry <terry@bible.acu.edu>
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 12:33:08 CST
Subject: Periphrastic Future Perfect
On Mon, 30 Oct 1995, Carlton L. Winbery wrote:
>present periphrastic involves the present of EIMI + the present ptc.
>imperfect peri. " imperfect of EIMI + the present ptc.
>future peri. " future of EIMI + the present ptc.
>aorist peri. " imperfect of EIMI + aorist ptc.
>perfect peri. " present of EIMI + perfect ptc.
>pluperfect peri. " imperfect of EIMI + perfect ptc.
This good concise list omits the future perfect periphastic:
future perfect peri. involves the future of EIMI + the perfect ptc.
The most notable example of this is in Matt. 16:19 where we find ESTAI
DEDEMENON and ESTAI LELUMENON. The NASV translates these as future perfects
in English "shall have been bound" and "shall have been loosed." Somewhere
(for the life of me I cannot remember where) F.F. Bruce has written that such
a translation misses the meaning of the Greek. Unfortunately, he does not go
on to explain what that meaning is.
This being the case, I would like to float another idea on B-Greek and see if
it gets sunk.
The basic significance of the perfect aspect (linguists should read "stative
aspect") seems to be action which happens at a single point in time but which
has continued results. This being the case the future perfect in Greek would
signify action in the future that produces a continued state. By way of
contrast, in English the future perfect is used for action which is past
relative to a future point in time. If I have correctly described the
significance of the Greek future perfect, a suitable English translation of
the words above in Matt. 16:19 would be "shall stay bound" and "shall stay
loosed."
Well, let's see whether this one floats or sinks.
********************************************************************************
Bruce Terry E-MAIL: terry@bible.acu.edu
Box 8426, ACU Station Phone: 915/674-3759
Abilene, Texas 79699 Fax: 915/674-3769
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From: Noam Hendren <noamh@netmedia.co.il>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 21:24:03 GMT
Subject: Re: Romans 4:13
Carlton Winbery wrote:
> It may be that Paul has Gen. 18:18 and/or 22:18 where the LXX has EQNH
THS
> GHS, "the nations of the earth" for the inheritance. KOSMOS would be
> closer to this expression and would fit with Paul's concept of his
> apostleship to the EQNH.
>
I don't have the LXX at home, but the Hebrew in both Genesis texts refers
to the "nations of the earth" being *blessed* in Abraham's seed, not
*inherited* by them. Does the LXX reading in these verses refer to the
"nations" being "inherited"? If so, I still do not understand why Paul
would change GH to KOSMOS instead of just including EQNH (He might also
have chosen OIKOMENH to get the "inhabited earth" slant).
If the LXX does not significantly change the Hebrew in 18:18 and 22:18,
then these verses would no longer stand as a backround to Rom. 4:13 (the
cross references in the ABS Greek text notwithstanding). Instead, verses
such as Gen. 13:15 and 17:8, whose language clearly parallels Rom. 4:13,
must be considered Paul's reference point in his argument. If so, I would
again ask why did Paul choose the term KOSMOS (I assume that GH was used in
the LXX)?
Noam Hendren
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From: Bill Mounce <billm@teknia.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:54:13 -0700
Subject: Baby Greek
Teachers,
If any of you are teaching a "baby Greek" course (i.e., learn enough Greek
to use the tools), I would appreciate it if you could drop me an e-mail. I
would like to talk to you about how you run your course and what your goals
are. If you are going to be at ETS/AAR/SBL let me know too so we can meet.
I have a rough prototype done of a software product that works in this
setting. Calls up the passage, get parsing by clicking on words, see
English translations (if permitted), prints out the students' translation
and indicates how many times they asked for help parsing, how long they
spent on it, etc.
Thanks.
Bill Mounce
- -------------------------------
Teknia Software, Inc.
1306 W. Bellwood Drive
Spokane, WA 99218-2911
Internet: billm@teknia.com (preferred)
AOL: Mounce
CIS: 71540,2140 (please, only if necessary)
"It may be Greek to you, but it is life to me."
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From: Mari Olsen <molsen@astrid.ling.nwu.edu>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:41:52 -0600 (CST)
Subject: SWAHILI BIBLE (fwd)
Forwarded message:
>From AIBI-L%UOTTAWA.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU Wed Nov 8 16:45:27 1995
Message-Id: <199511082245.QAA23915@astrid.ling.nwu.edu>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:09:56 -0600
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From: Larry Foley
<LPFOLEY%CHQ2.TRL%CHQ1%OFF31%UTL01N%XFER%UTLVAX%YVAX%WPGATE@YVAX.BYU.EDU>
Organization: Brigham Young University
Subject: SWAHILI BIBLE
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To: Multiple recipients of list AIBI-L <AIBI-L@UOTTAWA.BITNET>
According to my research, a southern or Zanzibar Swahili Bible
was published as a New Testament in 1879 and the complete Bible
was subsequently published in 1891. I have made some initial
inquiries about existing copies of this translation when I was
in East Africa but have not had success in locating a copy.
Does anyone know where a copy resides?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* *
* Larry Foley *
* Senior Linguist *
* Translation Department *
* 21st Floor -- 50 East North Temple *
* Salt Lake City, UT 84150 *
* e-mail: lpfoley%chq2.trl%chq1%off31%utl01n%xfer%utlvax% *
* yvax%wpgate@yvax.byu.edu *
* phone: 800-453-3860, ext 2934 *
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From: TRENJONES@aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:03:24 -0500
Subject: Theological Research Database/Thesis & Dissertations
To the Greek and Hebrew Discussion lists,
With the permission and blessings of your list moderator David J. Marotta, I
post this review of the TREN database. I do hope some of you find it useful
in your ongoing studies of theology and the Scriptures. Thanks for taking a
few minutes to look this over.
Sincerely,
Robert Jones
Theological Research Exchange Network (TREN)
P.S. It is not my intent to "disturb the peace" of your discussions. I just
thought you folks might find some of the titles listed of interest to your
studies. Here is a sample of some of the titles followed by the review.
__________________________________________________________
Anderson, Joe S. M.A.: 1986 163p.
The Translation Technique Of The Syriac Peshitta In Matthew: A Study Of
Verbal Forms
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School #006-0198
Baima, John K. Th.M.: 1986 76p.
Making Valid Conclusions From Greek Conditional Sentences
Grace Theological Seminary #009-0404
Barrett, Michael P. Ph.D.: 1977 253p.
A Methodology For Investigating The Translation Philosophies And Techniques
Of The Septuagint
Bob Jones University #003-0028
Battle, John A. Th.D.: 1975 262p.
The Present Indicative In New Testament Exegesis
Grace Theological Seminary #009-0116
Beard, Michael C. M.A.: 1982 69p.
The Use Of "Ou Me" In The New Testament
Western Conservative Baptist Seminary #002-0188
Bechtle, John D.Min.: 1979 331p.
Greek Behind The Professor's Back: Complete Beginning Greek Program
Western Conservative Baptist Seminary #002-0058
Black, Harold A. M.A.: 1981 119p.
Hebrew Exercises On Computer: A Language Lab Aid
Western Conservative Baptist Seminary #002-0059
Blomgren, David K. Th.M.: 1968 94p.
The Philological Problems Of The Book Of Daniel
Western Conservative Baptist Seminary #002-0060
Boyer, James L. Th.D.: 1952 145p.
A Manual Of Greek Forms
Grace Theological Seminary #009-0073
Brown, Stephen G. Th.M.: 1970 82p.
The Tetragrammaton And Modern Scholarship
Western Conservative Baptist Seminary #002-0315
Christopher, Gregory T. Th.M.: 1985 76p.
Determining The Voice Of New Testament Verbs Whose Middle And Passive Forms
Are Identical: A Consideration Of The Prefect Middle/Passive Forms
Grace Theological Seminary #009-0356
Cline, George J. Th.M.: 1983 68p.
The Middle Voice In The New Testament
Grace Theological Seminary #009-0286
Crofts, Marjorie M.A.B.S.: 1983 136p.
The Interpretation And Translation Of Selected Metaphors
Multnomah School Of The Bible #004-0007
Elliott, William E. Th.D.: 1981 237p.
Conditional Sentences In The New Testament
Grace Theological Seminary #009-0264
Fisk, Bruce N. M.A.: 1986 221p.
The People Of God In The Pauline Corpus: A Semantic Field Study
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School #006-0208
Gabler, George M. Th.M.: 1983 61p.
Bibliographic Research On Poetic Devices And Figures Of Speech Used In The
Old Testament
Dallas Theological Seminary #001-0048
Gault, Jo Ann M. M.A.B.S.: 1984 46p.
The Discourse Function Of "Kai Egeneto" In Luke And Acts
Multnomah School Of The Bible #004-0041
Gordon, Gary R. Th.D.: 1984 276p.
A Semantic Consideration Of Select Theologically Significant Signifies Of
'Qum'
Grace Theological Seminary #009-0037
Haltom, Fred D.min.: 1984 336p.
An Exegetical Workbook: A Curriculum For Second Year Greek At Eugene Bible
College
Western Evangelical Seminary #005-0330
Hillstrom, Leonard H. Th.M.: 1967 118p.
A Selective Study Of The Greek Article In The New Testament
Western Conservative Baptist Seminary #002-0063
Karg, Henry B.d.: 1955 86p.
A Study Of The Significance Of Certain Recently Discovered Greek Manuscripts
With Reference To New Testament Translation
Western Evangelical Seminary #005-0021
Kohlenberger, John Th.M.: 1980 158p.
A Hebrew-English Interlinear Translation Of The Book Of Joshua With
Introduction
Western Conservative Baptist Seminary #002-0012
Kriens, Ron M.A.: 1984 72p.
The Application Of Diagnostic And Evaluative Bible Translation Testing To Pre
And Newly Literate Cultures
Western Conservative Baptist Seminary #002-0340
Laursen, Gerald A. Th.M.: 1969 54p.
Paul's Early Use Of The Participle
Western Conservative Baptist Seminary #002-0064
Lindahl, Leroy C. B.d.: 1955 135p.
An Inductive Study Of Selected New Testament Synonymns For Sin
Western Evangelical Seminary #005-0027
Lovelady, Edgar J. Th.M.: 1976 166p.
Infinitive Clause Syntax In The Gospels
Grace Theological Seminary #009-0120
Lovik, Gordon H. Th.D.: 1973 267p.
Expressing Time In The Gospels
Grace Theological Seminary #009-0112
Mak, Lawrence M.A.: 1986 47p.
The Use And Omission Of The Greek Definite Article With "Pneuma Hagion"
Covenant Theological Seminary #030-0005
McGhee, H. William Th.M.: 1985 105p.
The Greek Article And The Abstract Noun
Tennessee Temple University #010-0028
McMann, James H. M.A.: 1984 124p.
The Nature And Function Of The Ka'Asr...Ken Clause In Biblical Hebrew And Its
Application To Isaiah 52:13-15
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School #006-0124
Niemela, John H. Th.M.: 1986 181p.
A Guide To The Bibliography Of Liddel-scott-jones Lexicon
Dallas Theological Seminary #001-0409
Ostoich, Paul F.e. Th.M.: 1983 69p.
Covenant Language In The Prophetic Curse Oracles Delivered To The Kings Of
The Omri Dynasty
Dallas Theological Seminary #001-0104
Phelan, Thomas W. Ph.D.: 1982 199p.
Translation Techniques Of The Greek Minor Prophets
Bob Jones University #003-0018
Pugh, David E. M.A.: 1985 273p.
Clauzit: A Computer Data Base For The Study Of Hebrew Interclausal
Relationships
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School #006-0136
Rataczak, John H. Ph.D.: 1978 220p.
The Effectiveness Of Dynamic Equivalence In The Pauline Epistles
Bob Jones University #003-0035
Schnaiter, Samuel E. Ph.D.: 1980 230p.
The Relevancy Of Textual Criticism To The Modern English Version Controversy
For Fundamentalists
Bob Jones University #003-0003
Schrader, Stephen R. Th.M.: 1974 170p.
Hesed In The Ancient Near East Milieu
Grace Theological Seminary #009-0181
Sedore, Marva J. M.Div.: 1978 182p.
A Theology Of Weakness: Word Studies From The Greek Text Of 2 Corinthians
12:9 In Context With Exegesis Of Seven Select Passages Of Scripture
Western Evangelical Seminary #005-0252
Sugiyama, Seimin M.A.: 1986 134p.
Role And Assessment Of The Western Text In New Testament Studies
Cincinnati Christian Seminary #031-0035
Thrasher, Wayne M.A.: 1981 140p.
An Evaluation Of Selected Textual Changes Between The Second And Third
Editions Of The United Bible Societies' Greek New Testament
Western Conservative Baptist Seminary #002-0066
Titrud, Kermit M.A.: 1986 131p.
The Abused (Kai)
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School #006-0238
Weber, Michael D. Th.M.: 1984 75p.
The Analysis Of Greek Word Order In Hebrews For The Purpose Of Discovering
The Typical Word Order Of The Author
Western Conservative Baptist Seminary #002-0348
Weber, Mike M.Div.: 1982 20p.
An Exegetical Workbook Of New Testament Grammar
Western Evangelical Seminary #005-0303
Wilber, Allan Th.M.: 1972 26p.
Manual For Hebrew Word Study And A Periodical Card Index
Western Conservative Baptist Seminary #002-0068
Witham, Stanley J. M.A.: 1976 79p.
The Comparative Usages Of "De" and "Alla" In The Four Gospels
Western Evangelical Seminary #005-0046
Wu, Michael Yick Kuen Th.M.: 1983 100p.
The Position Of Adverbs In Matthew
Dallas Theological Seminary #001-0154
Wyle, Tan L. M.A.: 1983 159p.
Heidegger's Philosophy Of Language: An Exposition With Special Reference To
Hermeneutics And Religious Language
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School #006-0015
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REVIEW OF TREN DATABASE BY DAVE HARMEYER
(Librarian at the International School of Theology, San Bernadino, CA)
I was recently asked to review (on another librarian's listserv) a free DOS
database (available from a home page - see below - or as a 3.5" disk) of
theses titles and authors put out by Robert Jones at TREN (Theological
Research Exchange Netwrok) in Portland, OR. You may be quite familiar with
TREN's services and the database created from such a cadre of institutions
and their students' works.
It may be of worth noting that the database contains recent theological
scholarly sources written (for the most part) from conservative camps. The
newest version of the software (2.1) runs very well on a 386. You need at
least 5 MB of free disk space. I had it up and running in a matter of
minutes. The search engine is rather intuitive and the "user's guide" is
helpful. The database contains 5,800 theses and dissertation titles from at
least 50 theological institutions (incuding Dallas, Trinity, Talbot, Western
Conservative Baptist) and a separate section listing papers presented at
annual conferences of the Evangelical Theological Society, Society for
Pentecostal Studies and the American Society of Church History.
The software allows you to select items and print out a tailor made ordering
form for the actual items ($5 per title on microfiche or $0.15 per page for
paper copies plus $3.00 shiping). I saw titles dating back to the 1950s but
most of the items are in the 80s and 90s.
You can down load the database from:
http://www.iclnet.org/TREN/tren.html
or call Robert Jones at 1-800-334-8736
or e-mail him: trenjones@aol.com or write by snail mail to
P.O. Box 30183, Portland, OR 97294-3183
for a free copy of the TREN database on 3.5" (DOS) disk.
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Dave Harmeyer, Library Director dharmey@cello.gina.calstate.edu
International School of Theology Office: (909) 881-7718
24600 Arrowhead Springs Road Fax: (909) 881-7709
San Bernardino, California 92414-0001 8-20-95
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