Re: EIMI and Time (for the second year)

From: Apokrisis1@aol.com
Date: Fri Jul 11 1997 - 17:55:17 EDT


In a message dated 97-07-11 06:14:11 EDT, you write:

<< (1) John tends to use ARXH to refer
 to pre-temporal existence (cmp., the Johnannine references in the
 section of BAGD with John 1:1 to the other uses; eg., John 8:44),
 (2) the contrast between EIMI and GINOMAI in vv 1-14, and (3)
 the picture painted of Jesus and the Father PROS one another evidently
 pre-time and outside of our Time/Space/History. >>

How do you derive a pre-temporal sense from ARKH in John 8:44?

I commented on the contrast of verbs forms in my previous post.

How do you gather that the relationship between the Father and the Son is
"evidently pre-time"?

Just wondering.

Greg Stafford
University of Wisconsin



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