From: Carl W. Conrad (cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu)
Date: Fri Jan 30 1998 - 06:59:54 EST
At 11:44 AM -0600 1/29/98, CWestf5155@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 98-01-28 19:08:56 EST, you write:
>
>>
>> No, not really. I think this has more to do with rhetoric than with any
>> rules governing "ordinary" sequence. What is particularly common in a
>> rhetorical sequence is the positioning of a relative clause in advance
>> with a relative pronoun that is picked up later by a demonstrative, as in
>> Rom 7:15 OU GAR hO QELW TOUTO POIW, ALL' hO MISW TOUTO POIW. I think that
>> the more natural order would have been: OU GAR TOUTO POIW hO QELW ALLA
>> TOUTO POIW hO MISW.
>>
>> Another feature that I think is probably more common in Latin than in
>> Greek, although I think I've seen it in Greek, is the positioning of a
>> relative pronoun at the beginning of what is really a new sentence and the
>> relative pronoun doesn't introduce a relative clause but simply functions
>> as a subject with an identifying antecedent in a previous sentence. In
>> English this would be something like: "The king will be in town next week;
>> he will proclaim a new decree"-- where we use the pronoun 'he' Greek or
>> Latin may use a hOS (or QUI). You can see this illustrated in my
>> 'favorite' passage in Ephesians (1:3-14): look at the usage of hO in vs
>> 14, or of EN hWi in vs 11 and vs 13. We translate these relative pronouns
>> in English normally with demonstratives ('this,' 'that') or simple
>> personal pronouns ('he,''she,' 'it').
>>
>> Carl W. Conrad
>
>Dear Carl,
>
>Could you refer me to an article which discusses this use of the relative
>pronoun (or indicate which grammar gives a good discussion)?
>
>I'm also interested in exploring the change in the use of the preposition
>during the Hellenistic period. Can you recommend any publications?
I'm sorry, Cindy, and sort of embarrassed at the same time. While I
wouldn't doubt that plenty has been written on these matters, I don't know
the bibliography; the things I've said derive partly from what I myself was
taught years ago and still more from my own observation and teaching over
the years. There are one or two good bibliographies on Hellenistic Greek
grammar that have been compiled and are normally accessible at the
Hellenistic Grammar web-site which is now (so I hear) in process of
reorganization (it hasn't been revised in over a year). In lieu of that I
suggest you put this question to either Micheal Palmer or Rod Decker.
Micheal Palmer is on that committee that's developing a new Hellenistic
Grammar to replace BDF, and Rod is one of the most knowledgeable people I
know in this area. Another possibility is going directly to Daryl Schmidt,
who heads that committee. I'm not sure I have a current e-address for him;
let me see if I have one from some earlier correspondence I had with him.
No, upon checking, I find I must have moved that correspondence file onto a
separate removable disk and I don't know readily where it is, but either
Micheal or Rod should be able to help you.
Regards, c
Carl W. Conrad
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