Re: Luke 22:20

From: George Athas (gathas@mail.usyd.edu.au)
Date: Mon Mar 16 1998 - 20:25:55 EST


Hi Carl!

> At 4:52 PM -0600 3/16/98, George Athas wrote:
> >Carl W. Conrad wrote:
> >
> >> But how can it be predicative when there's an article in front of it? I
> >> think one might well argue that it really is attributive without an
> >> article, in which case one could make out a case for its being EITHER
> >> attributive OR predicative, but I don't see how it can be predicative with
> >> the article there.
> >
> >In the same way that H KAINH DIAQHKH is predicative earlier in the verse - it
> > has an article there, too.
>
> This is not comparable. hH KAINH DIAQHKH is in fact the predicate to TOUTO
> TO POTHRION, linked to it by ESTIN, while TO hUPER hUMWN EKCUNNOMENON is
> linked directly to TOUTO TO POTHRION by article and by participle in
> agreement with POTHRION.
>
> At least, that's the way I've understood and taught the distinction between
> predicative and attributive adjectives/participles.

Carl, where is the word ESTIN in this verse? It is nowhere to be seen in the texts
I have. The predicate relationship between TO POTHRION and hH KAINH DIAQHKH is
implied, not stated. This, I believe, is the same as what is happening with TW
hAIMATI MOU and TO hUPER hUMWN EKCUNNOMENON. Yes, I can see how TO hUPER hUMWN
EKCUNNOMENON may modify the TO POTHRION, but it can also be the implied predicate
of TW hAIMATI MOU.

Best regards!
George Athas
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