RE: A SUMMARY OF THE ISSUES SURROUNDING EGW EIMI IN JOHN 8:58

From: Lemuel G. Abarte (lemuel@bcd.weblinq.com)
Date: Thu Sep 03 1998 - 20:26:30 EDT

Dear Wes,

It looks like the evidence of John 8:24 has to be included in the analysis of verse 58 since the chapter indicates one discourse.

Pardon if I somewhat overlooked John 8:24 in the archives. It seems it was not treated in that thread.

Lemuel

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From: Williams, Wes [SMTP:Wes.Williams@echostar.com]
Sent: Friday, September 04, 1998 1:23 AM
To: Biblical Greek
Subject: RE: A SUMMARY OF THE ISSUES SURROUNDING EGW EIMI IN JOHN 8:58

> What I am trying to point out is that in John 8, EGW EIMI seems to be a
> title. This is mentioned in John 8:24 in the HOTI clause.
>
> Why would Jesus use this phrase? I don't think that it is merely a
> summary of what was explained in John 8:23: EGW EK TWN ANW EIMI... EGW OUK
> EIMI EK TOU KOSMOU TOUTOU.
>
> EGW EIMI looks like a title applied to the origin and prior existence of
> the Person of Jesus Christ (John 8:23,24,58). But more so, it is likely a
> title that could only have references to the Old Testament Scriptures,
> since He is speaking to a Jewish crowd.
>
> The culmination of the discourse in the temple is quite clear that He is
> applying the title with an understanding that the name is the
> Tetragrammaton of the Old Testament. It identifies Him with Deity.
 
Dear Lemuel,

You may wish to consult the archives on some of these questions. As for the
culmination of the discourse in the temple, you may wish to consider the
possibility shown by McKay's remarks at:
http://sunsite.unc.edu/bgreek/archives/96-08/0331.html

> I don't want to be theological here, but it looks like that the theology
> has to be considered.
>
> Lemuel
> 

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