From: John M. Sweigart (jsweiger@cswnet.com)
Date: Thu Mar 18 1999 - 09:43:10 EST
John or Jim;
This post leads to another question in my mind. Does the word group related to
PISTIS always require action? Or can belief/trust which seems to me to be a
function of the mind be separated from action in response which seems to be a
function of the will? Or is it impossible to make this distinction based on the
semantic range of the word? I'm having trouble here with the statement that there
doesn't seem to be any involvement of the cognitive process. Relate this especially
to John's Gospel with its PISTEUO+EIS formula.
Jim West wrote:
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> >Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 21:49:55 +0000
> >From: John Moe <John.M.Moe-1@tc.umn.edu>
> >Subject: Re: PISTIS in Josephus
> >To: Jim West <jwest@Highland.Net>
> >Reply-to: John M Moe <John.M.Moe-1@tc.umn.edu>
> >Organization: Rev. John M. Moe
> >References:
> > <LYR422-41-1999.03.17-22.08.16--John.M.Moe-1#tc.umn.edu@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
> >
> >My understanding of PISTIS in the NT, is that it usually refers to
> >something like trust resulting in allegiance. I don't think the
> >cognitive process is much involved. Carl Conrad recently mentioned the
> >close connection between PISTIS and hPAKOH.
> >Luther made the same observation in his comments on 2 Peter 1:14 (I'll
> >check that ref. when I get to my study in the morning.
> >
> >If we take PISTIS as a cognitive process, and hPAKOH/hPAKOUW, as
> >obedience/obey, I think we miss the point in passages like Rom 10
> >(especially around verses 10ff).
> >There is allot of "LISTEN" (that was shouting) left in hPAKO-. See
> >TDNT's article on this word group.
> >
> >"The frequent use of hHUPAKOUEIN for shema in the LXX shows how
> >strongly the idea of hearing is still present for the translator in the
> >Gk. hHUPAKOUEIN. Hence hHUPAKOUEIN and hHUPAKH as terms for religious
> >activity are always to be thought of within the sphere of a religion
> >which receives the divine Word by hearing and then translates it into
> >action . . . (TDNT, 1:224)
> >
> >My 2 cents
> >
> >John M. Moe
> >
> >
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