From: Carl W. Conrad (cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu)
Date: Wed Oct 06 1999 - 13:45:50 EDT
At 6:00 PM +0100 10/6/99, Ben Crick wrote:
>On Wed 6 Oct 1999 (09:06:37), cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu wrote:
>> Two days ago, Felipe Flores-Morelos brought to the list an interesting
>> question about what he very rightly called in his subject-header, a
>> "difficult text." If anyone has forgotten, it is a sentence in the
>> "Divine Liturgy" of St. John Chrysostom that is used in the services of
>> the Eastern Orthodox Churches:
>>
>> TA SA EK TWN SWN SOI PROSFEROMEN KATA PANTA KAI DIA PANTA
>> [snip]
>
> Dear Carl
>
> David's Offertory prayer in 1 Chronicles 29:14 immediately springs to mind.
> It is incorporated as an Offertory sentence in the CofE Alternative Service
> Book 1984, Holy Communion Rite A.
>
> In the LXX this reads:
>
> KAI TIS EIMI EGW, KAI TIS hO LOAS MOU hOTI ISCUSAMEN PROQUMHQHNAI SOI KATA
> TAUTA; *hOTI SA TA PANTA, KAI EK TWN SWN DEDWKAMEN SOI*.
>
> IMHO we need look no further than this for the origin of Chrysostom's
> liturgical text.
I think you're right on the matter of an origin, but the real problem
remains how we are to understand KATA PANTA and DIA PANTA. Do you mean to
say that they have no helpful NT parallels or source?
Carl W. Conrad
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