From: Theodore H Mann (thmann@juno.com)
Date: Thu Mar 30 2000 - 11:15:08 EST
I find Michael McCoy's response here quite interesting. I hope others
will comment on this.
Best.
Ted
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:1:33 "Michael McCoy" <MMccoy7872@cs.com> writes:
> On 03/29/00, ""Blahoslav Cicel" <most@cb.cz>" wrote:
> > Hello list
> >
> > I have a question about the use of PROFHTAI in Eph 2:20 and 3:5.
> There is=
> > a
> > phrase APOSTOLOI KAI PROFHTAI in both verses. The APOSTOLOI is
> clear - th=
> > e
> > Twelve, but what about the PROFHTAI.
> >
> > There are two hypotheses:
> > - the OT prophets (as 2Pt 3:2 uses PROFHTAI KAI APOSTOLOI)
> > - the NT recently born christian church prophets (as Jesus in Mt
> 23:34 or=
> > Lk
> > 11:49 uses them)
> >
> > My question is:
> > Is there any hint in the text (in the greek), esp. in 3:5, which
> could gi=
> > ve
> > preference to one of those hypotheses? (YES/NO).
> >
> > If YES, what in the text gives preference to which hypotheses and
> why?
> > If NOT I will ask later some questions about the structure of 3:5
> to be s=
> > ure
> > of this answer.
> >
> > Disclaimer: I have no intention to discuss prophets in the
> today=B4s chur=
> > ch...
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Blaho, pastor in the North of Bohemia
>
>
> Blaho,
>
> The two instances which you have inquired about in Ephesians both
> fit the
> requirements for a Granville Sharp construction. In 2:20, TWN
> APOSTOLWN
> KAI PROFHTWN is the construction. According to the Granville Sharp
> rule,
> PROFHTWN would be a further description of APOSTOLWN. Paul is not
> talking
> about two distint groups of men, but rather, he is talking about one
> group
> of men. The same would apply for Ephesians 3:5. Some might try and
> argue
> that the apostles were not prophets, however, they did function as
> prophets
> as well. 2 Thessalonians, 2 Peter, and Revelation serve as clear
> evidence
> that they served as prophets, in that sense of the word prophet.
>
> Hopefully this helps.
>
>
> Michael McCoy
> Pastor Little Elm Missionary Baptist Church
> Farmington, AR 72730
> MMccoy7872@cs.com
>
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