[b-greek] Re: Fwd: Meaning of the perfect tense

From: Mark Wilson (emory2oo2@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Jan 09 2001 - 15:44:44 EST


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Cindy:

You wrote:

>Neither am I saying that the author could not be holding to a view of
>perseverance of the saints--you just couldn't prove that it indicates "the
>permanency of the step of salvation" by the use of the perfect tense here.
>You would need that to come from further information in the context. In
>other
>words, theoretically, this construction could occur in a discussion about
>the
>perseverance of the saints and does not exclude the possibility.


Yes. THAT is what I was trying to say. The Perfect tense does not eliminate
it, which is what I understood you to say in the earlier post.

I think your wording here is much clearer, namely, that the Perfect tense
can not be used to prove OR disprove perseverance. I understood your
previous post to say that the Perfect tense positively asserts that the
"permanency of the step of salvation" can not be supported. But that would
be incorrect. The Perfect tense does not semantically exclude such a
possibility, nor does it semantically include it. It simply makes no
assertion about it.

In other words, to say that the on-going results of a situation are not
semantically part of the Perfect goes beyond the Perfect tense itself. That
is, whether the results continue forever or not (in actuality) is simply not
addressed by the Perfect tense at all. Am I correct?

Thank you,

Mark Wilson
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