From: Carlton Winbery (winberyc@speedgate.net)
Date: Wed Feb 07 2001 - 23:01:29 EST
"Cassian DelCogliano" <cassian@holyroodguild.com> wrote;
>In Luke, after Jesus predicts the passion to the twelve, the narrator says:
>
>KAI AUTOI OUDEN TOUTWN SUNHKAN KAI HN TO RHMA TOUTO KEKPUMMENON AP' AUTWN
>KAI OUK EGINWSKON TA LEGOMENA (18:34)
>
>Could EGINWSKON be a conative imperfect?
>
>I would also think that the KAIs are used in such a way that co-ordination
>is semantically subordination (I can't think of the technical name for that
>at the moment). Does this seem correct?
>
>If my two hunches are plausbile, I would tentatively translate this passage
>as follows: "But none of these things made any sense to them, for [the
>meaning of] his statement was being kept hidden from them--and yet they
>were not even bothering to try to understand what was being said."
>
What some call "conative" imperfect others call "tendential." There would
have to be evidence in the context that the action indicated (or in this
case not done) was attempted unsuccessfully. This use with the negative
would be defficult to comprehend. "They were not attempting to know."
There is nothing in the context or the meaning of the verb that would allow
this. EGINWSKON in this sentence is the most common use of the imperfect,
descriptive. You get a picture in your mind of the disciples standing
around with a blank stare.
The first KAI seems to me to be adversative. Jesus tells them something
they should have understood and accepted but they did not. Hence, I would
translate the KAI's But . . ., and . . . . . and. . . ." or for the second
one just put a comma.
Dr. Carlton L. Winbery
Foggleman Professor of Religion
Louisiana College
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