[b-greek] Re: OUSIN in Phil 1:1

From: Ken Smith (kens@180solutions.com)
Date: Sat Mar 10 2001 - 18:33:29 EST

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Actually, Greek participles don't have person -- so the correct parsing is "Present Active Participle, Masculine Plural Dative", without any reference to person.

Ken Smith


> -----Original Message-----

 > From: Noel & Mary Fitzpatrick [<A HREF="mailto:njfitzpatrick@eircom.net">mailto:njfitzpatrick@eircom.net</A>] 

 > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 12:37 PM

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 > Subject: [b-greek] Re: OUSIN in Phil 1:1

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 > Phil 1:1 reads 'PASIN TOIS hAGIOIS EN CRISTWi IHSOU TOIS 

 > OUSIN EN FILIPPOIS'.  In most translations OUSIN is given as 'who 

 > are'.  Other translations give 'that are', 'which are' or  

 > 'qui sunt', while 

 > 

 > some versions omit a translation.  OUSIN is the present participle 

 > active dative masculine second person plural.  

 > 

 > A search found three other examples in the NT, which are Eph 1:1, 

 > 2Cor 1:1 and Romans 1:7.  In all of these 'who are' is the most 

 > common translation of OUSIN. 

 > 

 > Thus  none of the usual translations show that OUSIN is second 

 > person.  Would 'you who are' or, preferably, 'you being' be 

 > preferred translations?  

 > 

 > Explicitly using  the second person 'you'  makes the translation more 

 > personal, warm and intimate.  Secondly 'being' rather than 'who are' 

 > uses one word  rather than two words and shows more clearly that  

 > OUSIN is a present active participle, agreeing with hAGIOIS in 

 > number, gender and case.

 > 

 > Thus would an appropriate translation be '... to all the 

 > saints in Christ 

 > Jesus, you being in Philippi....'?

 > 

 > Noel J Fitzpatrick

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