[b-greek] Greek and the non-scholar

From: Michael Allen (gt3rx3@visi.com)
Date: Fri Apr 19 2002 - 17:10:54 EDT


My story is similar to Ken's. I served a parish after
> seminary, and after an internship at a state hospital. I
> realized my interest was in pastoral care, I took two more
> CPE quarters, took a year residency in CPE, then served
> several hospitals and similar facilities with Lutheran Social
> Services. I finally took a position at a tertiary care
> hospital after gaining accreditation with the American
> Association of Pastoral Counselors. (Whew!). But the
> hospital began to look iffy and since I had taken several
> undergrad testing courses and statistics, I left and earned an MBA.
>
> From there I've been in market research. I now analyze the
> software portion of the telecommunications market and perform
> market research. During the long stretch on the clergy
> roster and off of it, I did LOTS of supply preaching, but
> never used either Greek or Hebrew. About a year ago, I
> rediscovered my interest, since that was what drew me to the
> seminary in the first place. Things have changed! Software,
> the Web, mailing lists, all the resources that didn't exist
> in 1974 are wonderful! I try to read each day in both Greek
> and Hebrew. When I read for a worship service I'm able to
> read directly from the Greek text, although I can't tell you
> how I do it!
>
> Since my own pastors seem a little befuddled regarding why I
> would want to translate, I feel a bit lonely! But I've found
> Greek and Hebrew to be a wonderful addition to my own
> devotions and to a deeper understanding of my faith. No one
> has asked me to teach anything, however, so I guess reading
> Greek and Hebrew will remain a private endeavor.
>
> Mike Allen
> Plymouth, Minnesota -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Allen [mailto:gt3rx3@visi.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 12:42 PM
> To: Ken Smith
> Subject: RE: [b-Greek] RE: Keeping up on Greek
>
>
> My story is similar to Ken's. I served a parish after
> seminary, and after an internship at a state hospital. I
> realized my interest was in pastoral care, I took two more
> CPE quarters, took a year residency in CPE, then served
> several hospitals and similar facilities with Lutheran Social
> Services. I finally took a position at a tertiary care
> hospital after gaining accreditation with the American
> Association of Pastoral Counselors. (Whew!). But the
> hospital began to look iffy and since I had taken several
> undergrad testing courses and statistics, I left and earned an MBA.
>
> From there I've been in market research. I now analyze the
> software portion of the telecommunications market and perform
> market research. During the long stretch on the clergy
> roster and off of it, I did LOTS of supply preaching, but
> never used either Greek or Hebrew. About a year ago, I
> rediscovered my interest, since that was what drew me to the
> seminary in the first place. Things have changed! Software,
> the Web, mailing lists, all the resources that didn't exist
> in 1974 are wonderful! I try to read each day in both Greek
> and Hebrew. When I read for a worship service I'm able to
> read directly from the Greek text, although I can't tell you
> how I do it!
>
> Since my own pastors seem a little befuddled regarding why I
> would want to translate, I feel a bit lonely! But I've found
> Greek and Hebrew to be a wonderful addition to my own
> devotions and to a deeper understanding of my faith. No one
> has asked me to teach anything, however, so I guess reading
> Greek and Hebrew will remain a private endeavor.
>
> Mike Allen
> Plymouth, Minnesota
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Smith [mailto:kens@180solutions.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 1:34 PM
> To: Biblical Greek
> Subject: [b-Greek] RE: Keeping up on Greek
>
>
> Dunno about everyone else, but this is what worked for me.
> After I got out of seminary, I was pretty burned out on
> academics, and ended up doing computer programming for the
> next 10 years or so. Keeping up on Greek (let alone
> progressing) wasn't a high priority, but I managed to keep
> from losing it entirely just by doing a bit of reading every
> now and then. In the last three or four years, I've started
> doing a lot more reading, including some outside the NT (I'm
> working my way through 1 Clement), and a fair bit in the LXX.
> It helped that I originally took two years of NT Greek
> during undergrad, so that by the time I finished seminary,
> I'd been reading Greek pretty extensively for four years --
> so I'd had a lot more reinforcement than most seminary grads.
>
> That difference showed up in my Hebrew. I didn't take Hebrew
> until seminary (and was forced to use an execrable textbook,
> LaSor's _Handbook of Biblical Hebrew_), and it disappeared
> pretty quickly after I wasn't reading it regularly anymore.
> When it finally got to the point that I couldn't remember the
> difference between a shin and a sin, I decided the time had
> come to get back into it, and have been able to recover the
> ability to read prose at least, though my abstract knowledge
> of forms remains a bit weak. (I can usually figure out roots
> with weak radicals, but I can't always tell you why.)
>
> These days, in addition to my full-time technology job, I'm
> teaching Biblical intro part-time at Seattle Pacific
> University, so it's a little easier to keep up on my
> languages (or at least, I've got a bit more motivation, if
> less actual time).
>
> Ken Smith
>
> > for another thread, i'd be interested to know how people not in
> scholarly
> > institutions (i.e. presently taking Greek classes) keep up
> with their
> > Greek
> >
> > Michael Hanel
> > Concordia University
> > Seward, NE

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