I usually just lurk here, I'm more often found in the starship design area, I've been wondering about the hexagonal symbol in the latest message, and it seems to be very similar to a star of David maybe it is their religious symbol. I wonder then what the statement 'TCians contains two '9's means, could it be "we have two religions/Gods" the fact that the two planets contain '9' would seem to back this up, (amazing how alike we are %-)) after all, we use old God's name's for our planets. Anyway, just a thought, I will probably go back to lurking now. starship design takes up enough of my time.