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Mon Feb 2 18:34:57 2009 -0600 Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:34:17 CST From: Old Tube Radios To: Old Tube Radios Subject: BOATANCHORS digest 4244 Message-Id: <20090203003419.B47DF10B09B@srvr1.theporch.com> BOATANCHORS Digest 4244 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) BA's In The Theatre by "Liles Garcia" 2) A/C Radio Identification by Jerry Proc 3) Re: A/C Radio Identification by stuck in 50s 4) Re: A/C Radio Identification by Gary Woods 5) Re: A/C Radio Identification by "Sandy" 6) Re: A/C Radio Identification by "Sandy" 7) RE: A/C Radio Identification by "Meir WF2U" 8) Re: A/C Radio Identification by AAFRadio 9) Re: A/C Radio Identification by AAFRadio 10) WESTERN ELECTRIC MICROPHONE Item number: 400027074103 by John Dilks K2TQN 11) Subscribe?? by Ed White WA3BZT 12) RE: Subscribe?? by "Brian Goldsmith" 13) Re: Subscribe?? by WA5CAB@cs.com 14) Re: Subscribe?? by Ed White WA3BZT 15) Hammarlund Variable Capacitor ID by Dennis Wade 16) MY DX-100 Saga Part 4 by "Allan Fritsche" 17) Re: Subscribe?? by Tom Norris 18) RE: A/C Radio Identification by Jerry Proc ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Liles Garcia" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: BA's In The Theatre Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 00:20:46 -0800 Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Good evening Everybody, I just thought that I would chime in on using our BA's on the stage. One of my daughters is active in a local theatre group which was running the play " The Holiday Broadcast Of 1943 ". I think that I have the name of the play correct. The play script called for a " cantankerous receiver in the radio building on an island in the South Pacific at Christmas time during WWII ". I brought in my SX-28 for the receiver. I put a 5U4G inside my radio so that the actor could pull it out as the reason for the radio to be not working correctly. The play was a hit ( my daughter had a lead role so I will admit to being biased ). I also brought in an SX-24 to sit on the shelf of the radio room. The director of the play really appreciated using my receivers as props and graciously thanked me. I also got credit in the play program. On another note, Alan, many thanks for the DX-100 Saga!! You are not boring me--your articles are very interesting. Everybody have a great weekend and a great SuperBowl Sunday!! Best regards from Aloha, Oregon, Liles Garcia landn2@verizon.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:37:35 -0800 (PST) From: Jerry Proc Subject: A/C Radio Identification To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <382526.22335.qm@web90605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Everyone, I am trying to identify the radio fits used by Canada's former antisubmarine aircraft. Currently I am workling on on the Neptune P2V7. In the following photo I can immediately identify item 5 as an ART13 but I'm not familiar with all the other pieces. What are they? http://jproc.ca/test/neptune_pv2_radio_ops_ver2.jpg ************ The document just completed is the CP107 Argus. It has a real good story at the very end. http://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp2/argus.html Other a/c which I've yet to research are the Tracker and Sea King helicopter. -- Regards, Jerry Proc E-mail: jerry7proc@yahoo.com __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:44:32 -0500 (EST) From: stuck in 50s Message-Id: <200902011744.n11HiWp0004247@fracas.netboobie.org> To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: A/C Radio Identification Jerry I can give ya 2 1 & 2 are Collins R105/ARR15 radio receivers 4 Is a LM frequency meter That's a start anyway BTW, I've a pal that flew Neptunes & he said t was just the best Last year the only Forest Svc fire-bomb sub-contractor flew Neptunes Marty ------------------------------ From: Gary Woods To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: A/C Radio Identification Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:49:48 -0500 Message-ID: <20obo4lfk190a1pj195oae81krhhdneevl@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:37:35 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >I am trying to identify the radio fits used by Canada's former antisubmarine aircraft. Currently I am workling on on the Neptune P2V7. Totally different layout from the US P2V5 I spent a couple thousand hours in, even to the radio compartment not in the same apparent location. Even the one we ferried back to Alamada for overhaul, which had the "older" gear: ART-13+BC-348. Please post what you find out to the list. Thanks, Gary Woods O- K2AHC Public keys at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic, or get 0x1D64A93D via keyserver fingerprint = E2 6F 50 93 7B C7 F3 CA 1F 8B 3C C0 B0 28 68 0B ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Sandy" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: A/C Radio Identification Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:33:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1 & 2 are some RCA aircraft receivers that I can't remember the nomenclature of! (I think!) Unit #3 is a common Navy "LM" frequency meter. Don't know what the three small boxes under the ART-13 are for. 73, Sandy W5TVW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Proc" To: "Old Tube Radios" Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 11:37 AM Subject: A/C Radio Identification > Hello Everyone, > > I am trying to identify the radio fits used by Canada's former > antisubmarine aircraft. Currently I am workling on on the Neptune P2V7. > In the following photo I can immediately identify item 5 as an ART13 but > I'm not familiar with all the other pieces. What are they? > > http://jproc.ca/test/neptune_pv2_radio_ops_ver2.jpg > > ************ > > The document just completed is the CP107 Argus. It has a real good story > at the very end. http://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp2/argus.html > > Other a/c which I've yet to research are the Tracker and Sea King > helicopter. > > > -- > Regards, > Jerry Proc > E-mail: jerry7proc@yahoo.com > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your > favourite sites. Download it now at > http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1928 - Release Date: 01/31/09 20:03:00 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <6B6CABDEE52D45F1884A1DC9AF86465A@gateway> From: "Sandy" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: A/C Radio Identification Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:36:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry! I got Collins and RCA mixed up, but ARR-15 was the number I was looking for on the receibvers. And didn't keep a picture and was relying on memory for the "LM" location! Getting too damned old here! The small switch box on far left almost looks like an IFF control box, but not sure. 73, Sandy W5TVW ----- Original Message ----- From: "stuck in 50s" To: "Old Tube Radios" Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 11:44 AM Subject: Re: A/C Radio Identification > > Jerry I can give ya 2 > > 1 & 2 are Collins R105/ARR15 radio receivers > > 4 Is a LM frequency meter > > That's a start anyway > > BTW, I've a pal that flew Neptunes & he said t was just the best > > Last year the only Forest Svc fire-bomb sub-contractor flew > Neptunes > > Marty > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1928 - Release Date: 01/31/09 20:03:00 ------------------------------ From: "Meir WF2U" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: RE: A/C Radio Identification Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:57:53 -0500 Message-ID: <6990D77C77E1492A84D8AD605713E3CD@MBDCONSULTING.LOCAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jerry, Marty answered with ID before I even saw your email. Just want to add that the Collins R-105/ARR-15 was a post-WW2 Navy contract, where the Navy replaced the ARB and RAX receivers which were used with the Navy ART-13's (ATC in WW2 Navy nomenclature) with the R-105's. These receivers have presettable frequencies just like the ART-13 and the same kind of remote channel control box is usable with them, or they can be wired to the ART-13 remote and switch channels simultaneously in the receiver and transmitter. The 3 boxes underneath are not clear enough in detail, but one of them could be the radio compass, one an I/C amplifier and the third could be an IFF box. Next to the LM-xx frequency meter is what looks like a power control panel and item 6 is not clear enough for me to tell. Judging from the gear, it's probably equipped identically to the US Navy Neptune.. Maybe you could find a Neptune manual to peruse for positive identification on the unclear items? 73, Meir WF2U Landrum, SC -----Original Message----- From: owner-boatanchors@theporch.com [mailto:owner-boatanchors@theporch.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Proc Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 12:38 PM To: Old Tube Radios Subject: A/C Radio Identification Hello Everyone, I am trying to identify the radio fits used by Canada's former antisubmarine aircraft. Currently I am workling on on the Neptune P2V7. In the following photo I can immediately identify item 5 as an ART13 but I'm not familiar with all the other pieces. What are they? http://jproc.ca/test/neptune_pv2_radio_ops_ver2.jpg ************ The document just completed is the CP107 Argus. It has a real good story at the very end. http://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp2/argus.html Other a/c which I've yet to research are the Tracker and Sea King helicopter. -- Regards, Jerry Proc E-mail: jerry7proc@yahoo.com __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1926 - Release Date: 01/30/09 17:31:00 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4985FA57.5060905@aafradio.org> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 14:39:03 -0500 From: AAFRadio MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Old Tube Radios CC: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: A/C Radio Identification Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Besides the ones already correctly identified, Item 6 is an AN/AIC-5 Interphone amplifier (see bottom of http://aafradio.org/flightdeck/Interphone_systems.html ). Item 3 is most likely a master volume control, while the switch panel under it appears to be a 5.75"" back illuminated rack panel version of the C-380/AIC-5 control box described on the above page. I don't keep the later rack mount info because it's beyond my time area of interest, but that should get you into the right ballpark. Items 7, 8, and 9 are too pixilated to see much, even in my 1500x1250 pixel version. The labels underneath on the rack say Left and Right something, and Type something something, but that's about all I can see for sure. They look like the postwar configuration of selsyn amplifiers to me. Best 73, Mike KC4TOS Jerry Proc wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I am trying to identify the radio fits used by Canada's former antisubmarine aircraft. Currently I am workling on on the Neptune P2V7. > In the following photo I can immediately identify item 5 as an ART13 but I'm not familiar with all the other pieces. What are they? > > http://jproc.ca/test/neptune_pv2_radio_ops_ver2.jpg > > ************ > > The document just completed is the CP107 Argus. It has a real good story at the very end. http://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp2/argus.html > > Other a/c which I've yet to research are the Tracker and Sea King helicopter. > > > -- > Regards, > Jerry Proc > E-mail: jerry7proc@yahoo.com > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at > http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. > > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4986094E.40902@aafradio.org> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:42:54 -0500 From: AAFRadio MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: A/C Radio Identification Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit AAFRadio wrote: > Item 3 is most likely a master volume control I take that back...it's the lighting level control. I finally deciphered the markings. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:32:44 -0500 To: Old Tube Radios From: John Dilks K2TQN Subject: WESTERN ELECTRIC MICROPHONE Item number: 400027074103 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20090202013327.C746E10AFCF@srvr1.theporch.com> Hi Gang, W A R N I N G If you bought this item, you have a surprise waiting for you. I just received an email from the seller telling me the only thing inside is "The only thing in the top area is wires with metal u shape ends. hope this will help." So much for their claim "All Orig." It appears there is no microphone in there. The Winning bid: US $1,391.67 VINTAGE WESTERN ELECTRIC MICROPHONE ADJUSTABLE ALL ORIG Item number: 400027074103 Good Luck, 73, John Dilks ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 22:23:47 -0500 From: Ed White WA3BZT Subject: Subscribe?? To: Old Tube Radios Message-id: <49866743.2020804@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I thought I was on the list? May be not ? Ed WA3BZT ------------------------------ From: "Brian Goldsmith" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: RE: Subscribe?? Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:30:17 +1100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Ed White I thought I was on the list? May be not ? Ed ****** Ed,who said you are not? Brian g ------------------------------ From: WA5CAB@cs.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:36:27 EST Subject: Re: Subscribe?? To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cdb.4aa77ba5.36b7c43b_boundary" --part1_cdb.4aa77ba5.36b7c43b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed, The Suscriber related post and replies were on the other Boatanchors list, the one on QTH.NET. In a message dated 2/1/2009 9:31:18 PM Central Standard Time, brian.goldsmith@echo1.com.au writes: > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed White > > > I thought I was on the list? May be not ? > Ed > > > ****** Ed,who said you are not? > > Brian g > Robert & Susan Downs - Houston wa5cab dot com (Web Store) MVPA 9480 --part1_cdb.4aa77ba5.36b7c43b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --part1_cdb.4aa77ba5.36b7c43b_boundary-- ------------------------------ Message-id: <4987076B.7010408@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:47:07 -0500 From: Ed White WA3BZT MIME-version: 1.0 To: Old Tube Radios Cc: 'Old Tube Radios' Subject: Re: Subscribe?? Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I guess the e-mail was ment for someone else? Ed WA3BZT > Greetings All, > > For those who are trying to post to this list, but are 'NOT' subscribers, > forget it! You need to join before you can post! > > This is why you are getting the notice from the 'qth.net' system telling you > your post was rejected because you are a 'non-subscriber". Read it, take > heed and join! Otherwise save your effort sending posts, as they will not > appear here. > > We would be glad to have you among our ranks, so join and enjoy. > > You will 'not' receive any notice from myself telling you what the automated > note to you has already advised you of. So join us and let your > contributions be beneficial to all subscribers. Thank you. > > Duane Fischer, W8DBF - WPE8CXO > E-Mail: dfischer@usol.com > Hallicrafters web site: www.w9wze.net > HHRP web site: hhrp.w9wze.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Boatanchors mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/boatanchors > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Boatanchors@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Brian Goldsmith wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed White > > > I thought I was on the list? May be not ? > Ed > > > ****** Ed,who said you are not? > > Brian g > > > > ------------------------------ MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:45:42 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Hammarlund Variable Capacitor ID From: Dennis Wade To: Old Tube Radios Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good morning, I have a variable cap from Hammarlund marked "TC-110M". Can anyone look that up and tell me its specs? There are a couple of other numbers on it...not sure it that's the model number or not. Thanks, Dennis -- Dennis L. Wade KG6ZI Carmichael, CA ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Allan Fritsche" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: MY DX-100 Saga Part 4 Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:09:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK Gang, in the last post I was able to tune up on 40 M and made an assumption that it would work of all bands. My first desire was to get rid of the add on meters added to the left and right of the stock one. WOW 1.5 inch holes and very neatly done. Got the meter switch rewired back to normal and tested it on all positions. So far so good. Next to go was all the non original knobs as none matched to any other. The front panel was in serious bad shape with a splatter of varnish everywhere. Took all the connections off and removed the front panel. Popped the Heathkit label off and all the bushings. Cleaned everything up and rubbed the front panel with some Brasso diluted with water. I am not going to go through all the cleaning details cause everyone on this list has been there , done that. I knew someday If I was lucky I could get a different panel. This one would never be a beauty queen with the extra holes although I did plug them with 1.5 hole covers from ACE. A coat of Silver gray made them acceptable. OK, put the front panel back on and went to the knob junk box. Found a Hammerlund knob for the VFO and the bandswitch was replaced with a Dentron knob of unnone origin. The rest where all from an old HP piece of test gear. Hey this thing is starting to look good. Well that's enough but remember this all took place over a period of weeks. Part 5 to follow with the much anticipate POW (Arden). Your Friend Al W5ADF ------------------------------ Message-Id: <053B1902-EB44-4B40-9010-1AA67DCC048C@gmail.com> From: Tom Norris To: Old Tube Radios Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: Subscribe?? Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:29:06 -0600 Didn't someone *ALSO* created a boatanchors list on yahoogroups a short time ago??? I know of the two lists at theporch.com and tempe.gov.... geeesh.... Tom On Feb 2, 2009, at 8:47 AM, Ed White WA3BZT wrote: > I guess the e-mail was ment for someone else? > Ed > WA3BZT >> Greetings All, >> >> For those who are trying to post to this list, but are 'NOT' >> subscribers, forget it! You need to join before you can post! >> >> This is why you are getting the notice from the 'qth.net' system >> telling you your post was rejected because you are a 'non- >> subscriber". Read it, take heed and join! Otherwise save your >> effort sending posts, as they will not appear here. >> >> We would be glad to have you among our ranks, so join and enjoy. >> >> You will 'not' receive any notice from myself telling you what the >> automated note to you has already advised you of. So join us and >> let your contributions be beneficial to all subscribers. Thank you. >> >> Duane Fischer, W8DBF - WPE8CXO >> E-Mail: dfischer@usol.com >> Hallicrafters web site: www.w9wze.net >> HHRP web site: hhrp.w9wze.net >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Boatanchors mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/boatanchors >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Boatanchors@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > > Brian Goldsmith wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ed White >> >> I thought I was on the list? May be not ? >> Ed >> >> >> ****** Ed,who said you are not? >> >> Brian g >> >> >> >> > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:34:04 -0800 (PST) From: Jerry Proc Subject: RE: A/C Radio Identification To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <272532.41362.qm@web90606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks to everyone who responded to my request for the radio identification. -- Regards, Jerry Proc E-mail: jerry7proc@yahoo.com __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ End of BOATANCHORS Digest 4244 ******************************