20090306.ba v04_n250.bam.20090306 >From ???@??? Fri Mar 6 21:21:25 2009 -0600 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:20:42 CST From: Old Tube Radios To: Old Tube Radios Subject: BOATANCHORS digest 4250 Message-Id: <20090307032044.B6F9A10B0A5@srvr1.theporch.com> BOATANCHORS Digest 4250 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: More on B&W 6100 by "Greg Roecker" 2) Re: Teletype House Call by Shriver 3) Boatanchor terminals -- the IBM 2741 Selectric Terminal by Shriver 4) Re: BOATANCHORS digest 4248 by "David M. Upton" 5) Re: BOATANCHORS digest 4248 by WA5CAB@cs.com 6) Central Electronics A slicer with HQ-129X by "David Thompson" 7) B&W 6100 Drift by "JAMES HANLON" 8) You have to see this. Any radio part you want or need? by John Dilks K2TQN 9) TT-1 and/or TT-2 your liberry? by stuck in 50s 10) Re: B&W 6100 Drift by wb3fau@att.net 11) RE: You have to see this. Any radio part you want or need? by "AB Bonds" 12) 5 pin tube bases needed by "B. Smith" 13) Anyone have an Amperite TD relay manual? by john 14) Voltage regulator??? by "Soundval" 15) FH-2 DF Outfit by Jerry Proc 16) FWD: Police Detonate Ham Radio Equipment by Jerry Proc 17) Re: FWD: Police Detonate Ham Radio Equipment by John 18) Re: FWD: Police Detonate Ham Radio Equipment by Robert Lawson 19) RE: FWD: Police Detonate Ham Radio Equipment by "Ed Sieb" 20) Rob Flory's WWII Navy Radio web site back on the air - sort of by "Nick England" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <17ED2963DF554CB2B96A4C9403F1C402@home15f5cdaaed> From: "Greg Roecker" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: More on B&W 6100 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:06:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim, I believe Lynn, K5LYN had a B&W 6100 at one time. The last email address I have for him is: k5lyn@earthlink.net. You might drop him a note and ask for some data points on the 6100. 73, Greg/N4OSJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "JAMES HANLON" To: "Old Tube Radios" Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 5:01 PM Subject: More on B&W 6100 First off, I want to thank Garey, K4OAH, with the help on the B&W 6100 advertisement. This group is a really great resource! The reason for this message is to ask if anyone out there has had any hands-on experience with a B&W-6100. Ray Moore in his Transmitters book says that there were only 200 of them made, so the chances of finding another user/owner might be somewhat slim. But you never know. My 6100 is serial number 123. Thanks to some notes made by the original owner, I know it was updated in October 1964 per instructions sent out by B&W to be like the latest production units. I wonder if it was the 123rd one built or perhaps the 23rd built. My particular transmitter has a switch on the front panel not shown on either the pictures of the rig in the manual or in the ads I've been able to find in QST. It appears to be an original part of the rig, and its label says "Carrier Osc Off." It does indeed turn the carrier oscillator off when I throw it, but that puts the entire rig off the air. I wonder what in the world it was for! If you have any stories about the B&W 6100, I'd appreciate hearing them. I'm working on an article for the rig for Electric Radio, and they just might find their way into the magazine. Thanks and 73, Jim Hanlon, W8KGI ------------------------------ Message-ID: <49AC6E9A.6010607@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:41:14 -0500 From: Shriver MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Teletype House Call Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My understanding is that lube, lube, and more lube is key to Teletype maintenance. You want it at the point where it's pretty much spitting oil at the paper as it prints. I've done a tune-up on a ASR33 when it was our primary computer terminal at the Tech Model Railroad Club. That was a while ago. Even done some "fining". (Also known as bending.) The service manuals are well-written. It's fun explaining the mechanical UART to folks who are used to the electronic approach. Even scarier, I've worked on an IBM Selectric terminal. That was a beast. It was nice watching the video. Reminds me of the wire service Teletype that used to chatter away at the Smithsonian Museum of History and Technology. But the wire service machine was running a bit slower than 100 WPM, and was shifting more, the click/clunk of the shifting is a key part of the wire service sound! (Of course, I suppose I've listened to hundreds of newscasts with Teletype chatter mixed in as deliberate background noise.) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <49AC9D0F.5070006@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:59:27 -0500 From: Shriver MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Boatanchor terminals -- the IBM 2741 Selectric Terminal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Norris prodded me to say more about the Selectric terminal. A computer boatanchor, but a boatanchor none the less. I was maintaining one because it was my output device for "letter quality output" from the state of word processing in 1979-1980. (Think LSI-11, RT-11, Teco, and Runoff. 8 inch floppy disks. $20,000 personal computers! Not mine, a shared resource.) As a computer terminal, it was pretty much obsolete at that time, just a great printer. The Selectric terminal was really quite directly based on the Selectric typewriter. It was built into the top of a desk (like a keypunch was). Chrome legs, white Formica top, black painted sheet metal. In the back of the desk was a cabinet full of logic cards, packaged in IBM's SLT (Solid Logic Technology). This was their last generation of discrete transistor logic, with little hybrid circuits with several transistors in them under 1/2" square aluminum caps. Not an integrated circuit in the thing. There was a slot in the back, next to the logic, for storing the Field Engineering manual. This was indeed from the era when component replacement and adjustment in the field was the norm. Big blue plastic binder. Very good documentation. The printing unit was, like the Teletype, based on master power shaft that went across the terminal. You removed the cover, and could pull the printer unit out and prop it up standing reasonably proud of the table. Good service access. There was a bunch of special tools you needed. Well, first of all, it was full of Bristol spline set-screws. (There's real boatanchor content for the R-390 fans!) So you wanted a full set of Xcelite 99-series Bristol spline blades. There were also some special IBM tools. One was the Hooverometer. That was a universal measuring gage for all the old mechanical IBM stuff, probably dating back to the "unit record" equipment. (Punch card punches, printers, sorters, etc.) It was two alloy castings, one L-shaped, with various marking lines cast in it, the other going around the long leg, with a few odd pegs sticking out the side of it. It was used to make all sort of check measurements. Of course, speaking of punch cards, they were also required to service it. For instance, the print ball is 3 punch-card thicknesses from the page after it hits the paper. (It is actually flung at the paper, the levers don't push it into the paper.) There was also a knob, connected to a left-handed 6-32 screw stud. That screwed into the right end of the main drive shaft, and let you mechanically operate the printer. Very straightfoward, although tedious. There were some fidgety clutches, with a long spring that went around a bushing. The interesting thing was how the print ball was positioned. There are two long thin tapes, that ran around rollers at both ends of the printer. The rollers would move sideways to control how far the print ball would tilt and rotate. There were four rows of characters on the ball, with 22 characters per row, for a total of 88 characters. One tape controlled tilt, the other controlled rotate. For those of you familiar with digital-to-analog converters, there's a circuit known as the R2R ladder. A series of resistors, each twice the value of the one before. Each one represents on bit of the digital value. Well, the Selectric printer had an "arm two-arm" ladder. Think of a Calder mobile. Start with one lever at the top, with one arm twice as long as the other. The center of this arm is in charge of a tilt or rotate tape. Each of those side arms has a pair of smaller arms hanging from each end, again with one arm twice as long as the other. At the bottom of the lowest arms, there are hooks hanging down, with a catch pointing back. Each hook also has a small wire going forwards, connected to a solenoid. To print a character, some of the solenoids are operated. Then a large horizontal bail comes down (powered by a clutch), and catches the hooks whose solenoids have not operated. The "arm two-arm" ladders "sum up" those bits, and the bail causes the tilt and rotate tapes to be pulled the right amount to go to the correct character. Tilt was two solenoids/hooks (2 bits), rotate was four solenoids/hooks (4 bits). Shift was handled separately, it rotated the ball 180 degrees. Once tilt and rotate are set up, then another clutch is tripped, and the type ball is thrown at the paper. Wham! In the Selectric terminal, the keyboard is not connected directly to the printer mechanism. It just closes contacts. Like a Teletype, each key bar has pegs sticking out the bottom, which code the ones and zeros, and they push horizontal bars that close switches. On a Selectric typewriter, the keyboard pulls the hooks that go under the bail directly. (Somehow, never looked hard at one.) The Selectric keyboard has a wonderful lockout so that only one key goes down at a time. There is a long steel tube, with a slot cut in the top. Every key has a peg that wants to go into that tube when it is pressed. The tube is full of steel bearing balls, each the size of the pitch between the key bars. There's just enough room in the tube for one peg, and only one peg, to be in the tube along with the balls. I also remember how the ASR33 printer works. It doesn't have long tapes. Instead, there are long horizontal print bars, I think 6 of them. They go up based on whether that bit is 0 or 1 for the current character. The print head has many legs, with plastic feet, that slide along those print bars. They cause the correct tilt and rotate, through a summing method I don't remember. It is also sliding along a horizontal shaft with a groove in it. That provides the "paper whacking" power. It has a little rubber hammer that whacks the front side of the print head, driving the back side into the paper. The ASR33 keyboard is very much like the Selectric one, but without the elegant interlock, I think. -- John Shriver ------------------------------ Message-ID: <49ACB8C1.1090204@wb1cmg.mv.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:57:37 -0500 From: "David M. Upton" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: BOATANCHORS digest 4248 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thought it might be of interest to the net that the founder of Superior Electric was Bertell Nelson, W1AYR (SK). The company was set up to second source Variacs(tm) at the government's request. I never met Bert personally but as a kid, I did get one of the Telrex TB5EM antennas from his Chatham, MA QTH! At that time, he was running a KWM-380 and a BTI 3-1000Z amp. His friend, W1EAA (SK) was a ham "caretaker" of his place and "invited" me to help with maintenance. Bart always said that Bert had graduated Yale with a perfect 4.0 and that was, to his knowledge, never surpassed for an EE. Bart ended up working for Bert as a summer employee winding those ummmm....Variacs when the company started. RIP, Bart and Bert. David M. Upton, WB1CMG Mont Vernon, NH 03057 ------------------------------ From: WA5CAB@cs.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:40:37 EST Subject: Re: BOATANCHORS digest 4248 To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d31.4b3a56b4.36de1cd5_boundary" --part1_d31.4b3a56b4.36de1cd5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, they certainly made a good product. My first job as a newly minted (but several years older than most such thanks to an all expenses paid trip to SE Asia) EE was for a pipeline radiography company. They built, among other things, portable X-ray machines. And used a ton of the big 2 KW Powerstats in the control panels. The only problems I ever recall having with them were as a result of being bathed in fixer or developer solution in the mobile units. And nothing else we used would survive that treatment, either. In a message dated 3/2/2009 10:56:29 PM Central Standard Time, david@wb1cmg.mv.com writes: > Thought it might be of interest to the net that the founder of Superior > Electric was Bertell Nelson, W1AYR (SK). The company was set up to > second source Variacs(tm) at the government's request. I never met Bert > personally but as a kid, I did get one of the Telrex TB5EM antennas from > his Chatham, MA QTH! At that time, he was running a KWM-380 and a BTI > 3-1000Z amp. His friend, W1EAA (SK) was a ham "caretaker" of his place > and "invited" me to help with maintenance. Bart always said that Bert > had graduated Yale with a perfect 4.0 and that was, to his knowledge, > never surpassed for an EE. Bart ended up working for Bert as a summer > employee winding those ummmm....Variacs when the company started. > > RIP, Bart and Bert. > > David M. Upton, WB1CMG > Mont Vernon, NH 03057 > Robert & Susan Downs - Houston wa5cab dot com (Web Store) MVPA 9480 --part1_d31.4b3a56b4.36de1cd5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --part1_d31.4b3a56b4.36de1cd5_boundary-- ------------------------------ Message-ID: <014801c99c39$830806a0$84679a04@yourxb2x7j77gn> From: "David Thompson" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Central Electronics A slicer with HQ-129X Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:51:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a great HQ-129X that I want to connect with the CE Model A slicer. The slicer does not have either adapter (factory wired connector) so I will use the direct hook up option. The copy of the documentation has connections to several receivers (SX-71, 75A1, 2, 3 and HRO 5. 7) but nothing Hammarlund. I need possible hook up schematic to the HQ-129 or similar. Looks more involved than a HC-10 which I hooked up to a HQ-120 and 129X IF in the past. Can anyone point me in the right direction? 73 Dave K4JRB ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "JAMES HANLON" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: B&W 6100 Drift Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:09:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A1_01C99C12.01911700" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01C99C12.01911700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A number of folks have asked about the drift in the B&W 6100. I = measured the drift in my "new" rig today, with the rig on 20 meters in = the AM mode driving a dummy load and starting with the first frequency = measurement 2 minutes after I turned the power on from a cold start. My = Heathkit IM-4110 counter was measuring to the nearest 10 Hertz. >From 2 minutes to 17 minutes, the rig drifted down 250 Hz. In the next = thirteen minutes it drifted down another 80 Hz. After that it stayed = within 10 Hz for the next half hour. =20 That can be contrasted to the spec in the manual which says the rig will = drift not more than 100 Hz in the first 15 minutes and will stay within = +/- 25 Hz during any hour thereafter. =20 I think I'll keep the rig! Especially since I worked a station in the = Canary Islands with the rig, barefoot, and using my vertical antenna = after I finished the drift test. Jim, W8KGI ------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01C99C12.01911700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01C99C12.01911700-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:34:27 -0500 To: Old Tube Radios From: John Dilks K2TQN Subject: You have to see this. Any radio part you want or need? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20090303223438.3ABDA10B138@srvr1.theporch.com> Hi Gang, Remember the Startrek Replicator? This is even better and it is available now and almost affordable for home (shop) use. See the Jay Leno's garage video on it. 73, John Dilks, K2TQN http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=944641 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:44:47 -0500 (EST) From: stuck in 50s Message-Id: <200903032344.n23NilLj002483@fracas.netboobie.org> To: Old Tube Radios Subject: TT-1 and/or TT-2 your liberry? These are the RCA "Air Cooled Transmitting Tubes" series. I've got 1938's TT-3 Yours truly wanting data frm TT-1 &/or TT-2 on the 805 & 838 Thanks! Marty ------------------------------ From: wb3fau@att.net To: Old Tube Radios Cc: "JAMES HANLON" Subject: Re: B&W 6100 Drift Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 01:29:17 +0000 Message-Id: <030420090129.10531.49ADD96D0004B4210000292322243322829B0A02D29B9B0EBF9A0E00CC0D99@att.net> Jim, it is only fair to let the rig warm up. Give it 30 minutes to warm up. Run the test again. Take age into consideration, very cool old radio! Russ. ------------------------------ Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: You have to see this. Any radio part you want or need? Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:46:18 -0600 Message-ID: From: "AB Bonds" To: Old Tube Radios They have a (much more expensive) version of this at the Arnold Air Development Systems lab in Tullahoma, TN. It uses sprayed metal powder fused by a laser. Take your pick, aluminum, steel, even titanium. Surface finish is about five mils. Can make nearly anything, I examined a hollow (for cooling) turbine blade with compound curves done with it. They have called it The Replicator for years. A. B. Bonds > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-boatanchors@theporch.com=20 > [mailto:owner-boatanchors@theporch.com] On Behalf Of John Dilks K2TQN > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:34 PM > To: Old Tube Radios > Subject: You have to see this. Any radio part you want or need? >=20 >=20 > Hi Gang, >=20 > Remember the Startrek Replicator? This is even better and it=20 > is available now and almost affordable for home (shop) use. >=20 > See the Jay Leno's garage video on it. >=20 > 73, John Dilks, K2TQN >=20 > http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=3D944641 =20 >=20 >=20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003501c99cdb$64d3e8f0$271cc847@BCXHTR8HVC4P> From: "B. Smith" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: 5 pin tube bases needed Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:10:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Needed for HBR receiver project, five(5) pin tube bases or dud 807 tubes. 73 breck k4che ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20090304172347.04194490@pop-server.nc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:25:20 -0500 To: Old Tube Radios From: john Subject: Anyone have an Amperite TD relay manual? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Does anyone have an Amperite Time Delay relay manual that could look up some data for me? If so, I'd love to hear from you! Thank you John K5MO ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4CB77959EA934CB89E74658034B015C9@Rippen> From: "Soundval" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Voltage regulator??? Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 18:32:16 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was going through some cartons of stuff, that I got years ago buying some estates, and I found 3 "JFD Voltage Regulators" part number 94-5. They are rated at 250 watts, and are supposedly for the purpose of maintaining line voltage at 110 volts. They are a little over 4 inches high, in a cylindrical ventilated enclosure, with 2 AC prongs at one end, and a socket for 2 AC prongs at the other end. I realize that these were made when house courent was considered high at 115 volts, and unheard of at 120 volts. (My house line voltage is at 123 VAC now). Has anyone out there had experience using these to keep the voltage down on old radio equipment? Is present day line voltage too high for these? My Comet Pro, SW3, SW5 etc are anxiously waiting for opinions. Gene Rippen WB6SZS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <829146.50031.qm@web90601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:11:18 -0800 (PST) From: Jerry Proc Subject: FH-2 DF Outfit To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello Everyone, Many years ago Richard Bruner of this group (I belive) sent me a photo of a British FH-3 Direction Finding outfit. It came from the book "Funkpeilung als allierte waffe gegen deutsche U-Boote 1939-1945" written by Arthur Bauer. Richard, - if you are still part of this group please contact me. I need to know if that book contains any other photos of DF outfits. -- Regards, Jerry Proc E-mail: jerry7proc@yahoo.com __________________________________________________________________ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <730746.44464.qm@web90608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:36:37 -0800 (PST) From: Jerry Proc Subject: FWD: Police Detonate Ham Radio Equipment To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:47 PM Subject: [Fwd: KPTM FOX 42: Omaha News, Police Detonate Ham Radio Equipment (A balun coil mistaken for a pipe bomb) http://www.kptm.com/Global/story.asp?S=9911221&nav=menu606_2 Hams have been known to blow baluns before, but not in quite this way ! This is security paranoia. How many more objects in a a household can be mistaken for a pipe bomb? -- Regards, Jerry Proc E-mail: jerry7proc@yahoo.com __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20090306203609.022021f8@pop-server.nc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:36:37 -0500 To: Old Tube Radios From: John Subject: Re: FWD: Police Detonate Ham Radio Equipment Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Keeping the world safe from semi automatic assault baluns! John K5MO At 11:36 AM 03/06/2009, Jerry Proc wrote: >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:47 PM > >Subject: [Fwd: KPTM FOX 42: Omaha News, Police Detonate Ham Radio >Equipment (A balun coil mistaken for a pipe bomb) > >http://www.kptm.com/Global/story.asp?S=9911221&nav=menu606_2 > >Hams have been known to blow baluns before, but not in quite this way ! >This is security paranoia. How many more objects in a a household can be >mistaken for a pipe bomb? > >-- >Regards, >Jerry Proc >E-mail: jerry7proc@yahoo.com > > > __________________________________________________________________ >Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your >favourite sites. Download it now at >http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <862934.23104.qm@web180116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:59:00 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Lawson Subject: Re: FWD: Police Detonate Ham Radio Equipment To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-206841235-1236391140=:23104" --0-206841235-1236391140=:23104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Especially Uzi Ununs. Robert W4RL --- On Fri, 3/6/09, John wrote: From: John Subject: Re: FWD: Police Detonate Ham Radio Equipment To: "Old Tube Radios" Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 7:36 PM Keeping the world safe from semi automatic assault baluns! John K5MO At 11:36 AM 03/06/2009, Jerry Proc wrote: >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:47 PM > >Subject: [Fwd: KPTM FOX 42: Omaha News, Police Detonate Ham Radio >Equipment (A balun coil mistaken for a pipe bomb) > >http://www.kptm.com/Global/story.asp?S=9911221&nav=menu606_2 > >Hams have been known to blow baluns before, but not in quite this way ! >This is security paranoia. How many more objects in a a household can be >mistaken for a pipe bomb? > >-- >Regards, >Jerry Proc >E-mail: jerry7proc@yahoo.com > > > __________________________________________________________________ >Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your >favourite sites. Download it now at >http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. --0-206841235-1236391140=:23104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --0-206841235-1236391140=:23104-- ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Ed Sieb" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: RE: FWD: Police Detonate Ham Radio Equipment Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:04:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If it was a W2AU balun, they blow up spontaneously. Ed, VA3ES -----Original Message----- From: owner-boatanchors@theporch.com [mailto:owner-boatanchors@theporch.com]On Behalf Of John Sent: March 6, 2009 8:37 PM To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: FWD: Police Detonate Ham Radio Equipment Keeping the world safe from semi automatic assault baluns! John K5MO At 11:36 AM 03/06/2009, Jerry Proc wrote: >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:47 PM > >Subject: [Fwd: KPTM FOX 42: Omaha News, Police Detonate Ham Radio >Equipment (A balun coil mistaken for a pipe bomb) > >http://www.kptm.com/Global/story.asp?S=9911221&nav=menu606_2 > >Hams have been known to blow baluns before, but not in quite this way ! >This is security paranoia. How many more objects in a a household can be >mistaken for a pipe bomb? > >-- >Regards, >Jerry Proc ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Nick England" To: Old Tube Radios Cc: "boat Radios" Subject: Rob Flory's WWII Navy Radio web site back on the air - sort of Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:19:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A year or so ago, Rob Flory's great WWII Navy Radio web site got clobbered by a server crash. I have salvaged most of the text and a few photos and with his permission have re-posted it at - http://www.virhistory.com/navy/flory/index.html If you have any additions or copies of missing photos, please pass along to Rob or me. cheers, Nick K4NYW nick@virhistory.com 1950's-60's Navy Radio - www.virhistory.com/navy ------------------------------ End of BOATANCHORS Digest 4250 ******************************