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Tue Mar 10 13:12:47 2009 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:12:02 CST From: Old Tube Radios To: Old Tube Radios Subject: BOATANCHORS digest 4252 Message-Id: <20090310181204.CDBF510B16B@srvr1.theporch.com> BOATANCHORS Digest 4252 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: variacs and 220v ... should be 240V by "Arden Allen" 2) UPS charges by "Jim Garland" <4cx250b@muohio.edu> 3) Re: bringing up ps by Chuck Grandgent 4) Re: bringing up ps by Richard Loken 5) Re: UPS charges by "Paul Christensen" 6) Re: bringing up ps by Chuck Grandgent 7) Re: UPS charges by "RICHARD GEORGE" 8) RE: UPS charges by RICHARD SOLOMON 9) Re: UPS charges by WA5CAB@cs.com 10) Re: UPS charges by "John K9UWA" 11) Re: variacs and 220v by wf2u@ws19ops.com 12) Re: variacs and 220v by spr@earthlink.net 13) Re: bringing up ps by w7qho 14) Re: variacs and 220v by wf2u@ws19ops.com 15) Re: UPS charges by ail0@att.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <004201c9a0f3$02587b20$dd9d480c@KB6NAX> From: "Arden Allen" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: variacs and 220v ... should be 240V Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 12:54:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gentlemen, You all are muddying up the subject of variacs in general. A variac is an iron core inductor. If double the specified voltage is applied the core will saturate at some point above the specified voltage causing inductive reactance to drop to essentilly zero ohms. The variac will practically vaporize if there is no fuse or circuit breaker to protect it. Connecting two variacs END TO END in SERIES will allow 240 volt operation for 120 volt units. The load is connected BETWEEN the two rotor contacts. Connect the variacs so that at ZERO volts output both variac's rotors are adjacent to the center connection, i.e, at 120 volts. Both variacs are rotated to deliver from 0 to 220 volts to the load. They don't have to be pefectly synchronized so the two variacs can be rotated independenly as output voltage is adjusted. If only one variac is rotated the load will receive up to 120 volts, or about 140 volts if connected to the tap for elevated voltage operation. If both variacs are connected for elevated voltage output the full output voltage will be about 280 volts. KEEP IN MIND THE LOAD WILL BE FLOATING 120 VOLTS ABOVE EARTH GROUND WHEN THE VARIACS ARE SET FOR 0 VOLTS OUTPUT. The maximum load current is the same as the current rating of the lesser rated variac if they are dissimilarly rated. Provide a power switch that disconnects BOTH INPUTS to the variacs. Always monitor both load voltage and current for safety and control of operating conditions. Arden Allen KB6NAX Adopt a shelter dog, save an innocent life, and make a friend forever =:-) ------------------------------ From: "Jim Garland" <4cx250b@muohio.edu> To: Old Tube Radios Subject: UPS charges Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:20:07 -0600 Message-ID: <072b01c9a0f4$7154d860$bd00a8c0@Garland> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_072C_01C9A0C2.26BA6860" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_072C_01C9A0C2.26BA6860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I shipped a fiberglass packing case from my local UPS Store this afternoon and was shocked at how high the charge was. I had checked on the UPS website, put in the weight and dimensions of the box, and was given a cost of $23.05. However, the UPS Store tried to charge me $46, claiming that there was a "non-corrugated surcharge." The explanation was that UPS charges more if the package is not made of cardboard, because other materials can damage the UPS conveyor belts and harm employees. I ended up shipping it by FedEx, which was $31. On the UPS website, there's a disclaimer saying that their retail stores may charge different prices than those listed on the website. But a factor of two higher? Seems like a big ripoff to me, and the corrugated surchage seems like pure baloney, so my advice is to be careful when you're shipping anything from a retail UPS dropoff place. Jim W8ZR ------=_NextPart_000_072C_01C9A0C2.26BA6860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------=_NextPart_000_072C_01C9A0C2.26BA6860-- ------------------------------ MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 16:22:06 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bringing up ps From: Chuck Grandgent To: Old Tube Radios Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0b4f16dd57d0464b563c2 --001636e0b4f16dd57d0464b563c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you are squeamish, like me, hit it with 6 or 12VAC from a filament supply first, instead of the full 120 or 240. You can do the math on the output and tell if it's doing what you indeed want. I do this when doing the Drake AC3 / AC4 power supply "upgrades". Chuck, K1OM On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Arden Allen wrote: > > .......Connect Variac output in series with the isolation transformer and > test > > across series connected outputs to establish if voltage rises from 110 V > > to 220 V as Variac is advanced (desired) or drops back toward 0 V (not > > desired). The latter can be corrected by reversing leads from the iso- > > lation transformer. > > To clarify this, connect the PRIMARY of the 1:1 isolation transformer > between the variac rotor and common (neutral). Connect the SECONDARY of > the > 1:1 isolation tranformer **phase aiding** in series with the variac rotor > and the input to the load. Connect the load's return input to common > (neutral). In other words, the output of the isolation transformer is > stacked on top of the output from the variac. If one winding of the > isolation tranformer is connected in **phase opposition** the output > voltage > will remain at zero volts regardless of the position of the variac's rotor > (Rhett got it wrong). > > Arden Allen > KB6NAX > > Adopt a shelter dog, > save an innocent life, > and make a friend forever =:-) > > --001636e0b4f16dd57d0464b563c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --001636e0b4f16dd57d0464b563c2-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:27:38 -0700 From: Richard Loken Subject: Re: bringing up ps To: Old Tube Radios Cc: Old Tube Radios Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, Chuck Grandgent wrote: > I do this when doing the Drake AC3 / AC4 power supply "upgrades". Upgrades? What can you upgrade in an AC4? -- Richard Loken VE6BSV, Unix System Administrator : "Anybody can be a father Athabasca University : but you have to earn Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'" ** richardlo@admin.athabascau.ca ** : - Lynn Johnston ------------------------------ Message-ID: <009d01c9a0f6$4aa13e50$1d3ca8c0@office> From: "Paul Christensen" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: UPS charges Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 16:33:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim, Although I have not recently reviewed UPS' terms & conditions, I've also noted large disparities in shipping charges between the UPS shipping calculator and that amount charged at the UPS retail store. I've also sent and received items in non-corrugated material -- so although that condition may be stipulated in the T&C, in many instances they will still ship the item without the surcharge if you process the shipment on-line. I have a credit card on file through the UPS website and generate the billing and waybill through their on-line shipping system. I then take the package to the retail store as a "drop off" item. I literally walk through the door, place the package in the clerk's hands and leave. Even specifying front door pick-up is significantly less expensive than processing the shipment through their retail store. Paul, W9AC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Garland" <4cx250b@muohio.edu> To: "Old Tube Radios" Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 4:20 PM Subject: UPS charges >I shipped a fiberglass packing case from my local UPS Store this afternoon > and was shocked at how high the charge was. I had checked on the UPS > website, put in the weight and dimensions of the box, and was given a cost > of $23.05. However, the UPS Store tried to charge me $46, claiming that > there was a "non-corrugated surcharge." The explanation was that UPS > charges more if the package is not made of cardboard, because other > materials can damage the UPS conveyor belts and harm employees. I ended up > shipping it by FedEx, which was $31. On the UPS website, there's a > disclaimer saying that their retail stores may charge different prices > than > those listed on the website. But a factor of two higher? Seems like a big > ripoff to me, and the corrugated surchage seems like pure baloney, so my > advice is to be careful when you're shipping anything from a retail UPS > dropoff place. > > > > Jim W8ZR > > ------------------------------ MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 16:33:38 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bringing up ps From: Chuck Grandgent To: Old Tube Radios Cc: Old Tube Radios Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PC Board-based upgrade, replace those old caps etc with new ones before they blow and do damage ! http://www.theheathkitshop.com/page6/page6.html While meant for the AC4, it is substantially the same with the AC3 (I have done two AC3's), but you have to interpret some things for the AC3 (wire color coding etc) as the instructions are for the AC4. Also, there are some real variations, though subtle, in the various units out in the field. Chuck, K1OM On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Richard Loken wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, Chuck Grandgent wrote: > > > I do this when doing the Drake AC3 / AC4 power supply "upgrades". > > Upgrades? =C2=A0What can you upgrade in an AC4? > > -- > =C2=A0 Richard Loken VE6BSV, Unix System Administrator : "Anybody can be = a father > =C2=A0 Athabasca University =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: =C2=A0but you have to= earn > =C2=A0 Athabasca, Alberta Canada =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : =C2=A0the title of 'daddy'" > =C2=A0 ** richardlo@admin.athabascau.ca ** =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : =C2=A0- Lynn Johnston > ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "RICHARD GEORGE" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: UPS charges Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:35:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit UPS stores are a Rip Off. If you have to use UPS go to a UPS shipping location not a retail store. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Garland" <4cx250b@muohio.edu> To: "Old Tube Radios" Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 1:20 PM Subject: UPS charges > I shipped a fiberglass packing case from my local UPS Store this afternoon > and was shocked at how high the charge was. I had checked on the UPS > website, put in the weight and dimensions of the box, and was given a cost > of $23.05. However, the UPS Store tried to charge me $46, claiming that > there was a "non-corrugated surcharge." The explanation was that UPS > charges more if the package is not made of cardboard, because other > materials can damage the UPS conveyor belts and harm employees. I ended up > shipping it by FedEx, which was $31. On the UPS website, there's a > disclaimer saying that their retail stores may charge different prices > than > those listed on the website. But a factor of two higher? Seems like a big > ripoff to me, and the corrugated surchage seems like pure baloney, so my > advice is to be careful when you're shipping anything from a retail UPS > dropoff place. > > > > Jim W8ZR > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1a116d1f-8476-400e-b673-9c3520040663_" From: RICHARD SOLOMON To: Old Tube Radios Subject: RE: UPS charges Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 20:42:45 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 --_1a116d1f-8476-400e-b673-9c3520040663_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Guys=2C the UPS Store is a business and needs to make a profit too. UPS doesn't give them a discount=2C more likely charges them some kind of Franchise Fee for being part of the Team. =20 UPS Shipping locations are cheaper=2C but they tend to be out in the boonies (cheap real estate !!) and have Bankers Hours ! =20 If you can pay on line and drop it off at the UPS Store=2C that is even better=2C but I expect if you do it too often they will put the bite on you= =2C somehow. =20 For me=2C I prefer USPS Priority Mail. You can get Free boxes delivered and the Flat Rate boxes can be a bargain. They will also pick up but I haven't tried that so don't know much on how it works. =20 73=2C Dick=2C W1KSZ =20 > From: k6kwq@msn.com > To: boatanchors@theporch.com > Subject: Re: UPS charges > Date: Mon=2C 9 Mar 2009 13:35:43 -0700 >=20 > UPS stores are a Rip Off. If you have to use UPS go to a UPS shipping=20 > location not a retail store. >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Jim Garland" <4cx250b@muohio.edu> > To: "Old Tube Radios" > Sent: Monday=2C March 09=2C 2009 1:20 PM > Subject: UPS charges >=20 >=20 > > I shipped a fiberglass packing case from my local UPS Store this aftern= oon > > and was shocked at how high the charge was. I had checked on the UPS > > website=2C put in the weight and dimensions of the box=2C and was given= a cost > > of $23.05. However=2C the UPS Store tried to charge me $46=2C claiming = that > > there was a "non-corrugated surcharge." The explanation was that UPS > > charges more if the package is not made of cardboard=2C because other > > materials can damage the UPS conveyor belts and harm employees. I ended= up > > shipping it by FedEx=2C which was $31. On the UPS website=2C there's a > > disclaimer saying that their retail stores may charge different prices= =20 > > than > > those listed on the website. But a factor of two higher? Seems like a b= ig > > ripoff to me=2C and the corrugated surchage seems like pure baloney=2C = so my > > advice is to be careful when you're shipping anything from a retail UPS > > dropoff place. > > > > > > > > Jim W8ZR > > > >=20 >=20 --_1a116d1f-8476-400e-b673-9c3520040663_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --_1a116d1f-8476-400e-b673-9c3520040663_-- ------------------------------ From: WA5CAB@cs.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 16:39:58 EDT Subject: Re: UPS charges To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_be4.4eb5c14c.36e6d89e_boundary" --part1_be4.4eb5c14c.36e6d89e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim, You got hit by two surcharges at the UPS Store. The so-called UPS Stores charge a markup because they (or most of them) don't belong to UPS and UPS charges them about what the web site figure is less the Daily Pickup discount. The two nearest me charge 20% and 30% markup (and the lower one is lower only because I've been her customer for some 30 years). The non-cardboard surcharge has been in effect for 20+ years anyway. Dealing with what I deal with, I fairly often ship mil gear in its original wooden crates, mainly because some customers want to be the first to open the crate. If the crate is built such that it's practical to do so, I wrap it in cardboard and don't have to pay that surcharge. Had you done that the UPS place probably would have charged you about what FedEx did. Had you taken it to an actual UPS location (where the trucks go) and put the fiberglass case into cardboard, you would have paid what the web site says. I haven't used FedEx since the I-10 War Zone cranked up about five years ago (couldn't get there from here) so I don't know what they do with regard to cardboard/non-cardboard. I'm not defending either one but that's the explanation for the UPS rate. In a message dated 3/9/2009 2:20:59 PM Central Standard Time, 4cx250b@muohio.edu writes: > I shipped a fiberglass packing case from my local UPS Store this afternoon > and was shocked at how high the charge was. I had checked on the UPS > website, put in the weight and dimensions of the box, and was given a cost > of $23.05. However, the UPS Store tried to charge me $46, claiming that > there was a "non-corrugated surcharge." The explanation was that UPS > charges more if the package is not made of cardboard, because other > materials can damage the UPS conveyor belts and harm employees. I ended up > shipping it by FedEx, which was $31. On the UPS website, there's a > disclaimer saying that their retail stores may charge different prices than > those listed on the website. But a factor of two higher? Seems like a big > ripoff to me, and the corrugated surchage seems like pure baloney, so my > advice is to be careful when you're shipping anything from a retail UPS > dropoff place. > Robert Downs - Houston wa5cab dot com (Web Store) MVPA 9480 --part1_be4.4eb5c14c.36e6d89e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --part1_be4.4eb5c14c.36e6d89e_boundary-- ------------------------------ From: "John K9UWA" To: Old Tube Radios Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:22:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: UPS charges Message-ID: <49B54254.20059.201004B@k9uwa.arrl.net> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body At home I create the UPS shipping label and pay for it from my online UPS account. Then I can drop that box off at either the real brown truck spot or one of those UPS store deals. They don't do anything with it other than scan the thing in... no charge no change etc. Now later a real UPS person might say... this box gets upcharged for the fiberglass bit but so far never had that happen.. I have had minor upcharge and DOWNcharge a couple times when I didn't weigh the box correctly. Here in FL we use a place up the street that does PO,FedEx,UPS and they actually have sometimes real special deals only good that day... as in perhaps UPS doesn't quite have a full load going someplace this outfits computers checks all this stuff and advises us which system is the cheapest at that moment... and I never see any more than what it would have been had I done up the online bit myself... in many cases they come out cheaper. John k9uwa/w4 Ocoee, FL ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20090309145125.m43iqydxc08g0kgs@webmail.opentransfer.com> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:51:25 -0500 From: wf2u@ws19ops.com To: Old Tube Radios Cc: nick@3rdtech.com Subject: Re: variacs and 220v MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nick, I wish you a rapid recovery. I'm lucky in that, that I have a 2 KVA 240V "real" Variac, and it's bi-dirctional. It has taps specifically used for 115 V input and output of 115 V and higher, and vice versa. Although I have a 240 VAC drop in my shack, the convenience of setting the voltage to the standard 220VAC for the European boatanchors is really nice. I even bought a few European (mainly German power strips - available even in the US - which accommodate almost all European plugs) which I wired into the Variac. I use the Variac with 120 VAC input and set the output to 220 VAC. 73, Meir WF2U Landrum, SC Quoting Nick England : > I can only say that I have a bad cold and medicine must have been affectin= g > my brain - somehow I thought the question was about using 110v variacs wit= h > 220v in and 220v out. > But it wasn't - it was can you use a variac or two to step up from 110v to > 220v. I think the answer is "nope". > > Well to be absolutely correct perhaps the answer is "briefly, accompanied = by > smoke" - just set the tap to halfway and apply 110v between tap and common > and you'll get 220v (briefly) at what would normally be used for input. Th= e > smoke will mainly be emitted between tap and common. > > I gotta stop taking these meds........ > > my apologies to the list, > Nick K4NYW > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1397628.1236635679714.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 17:54:39 -0400 (EDT) From: spr@earthlink.net To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: variacs and 220v Cc: nick@3rdtech.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, Meir's scheme of using German outlet strips to differentiate between 120 and 240 is a good one. What I do insted is use Tandem plugs, US style, for this purpose. Either will work fine. The important thing is NOT to have 240V coming out of a regular 120V connector, to avoid that nasty smelling smoke, y'know. Yours for a low-smoke life, /scott -----Original Message----- >From: wf2u@ws19ops.com >Sent: Mar 9, 2009 3:51 PM >To: Old Tube Radios >Cc: nick@3rdtech.com >Subject: Re: variacs and 220v > >Nick, > >I wish you a rapid recovery. > >I'm lucky in that, that I have a 2 KVA 240V "real" Variac, and it's >bi-dirctional. It has taps specifically used for 115 V input and >output of 115 V and higher, and vice versa. >Although I have a 240 VAC drop in my shack, the convenience of setting >the voltage to the standard 220VAC for the European boatanchors is >really nice. >I even bought a few European (mainly German power strips - available >even in the US - which accommodate almost all European plugs) which I >wired into the Variac. I use the Variac with 120 VAC input and set the >output to 220 VAC. > >73, Meir WF2U >Landrum, SC > >Quoting Nick England : > >> I can only say that I have a bad cold and medicine must have been affecting >> my brain - somehow I thought the question was about using 110v variacs with >> 220v in and 220v out. >> But it wasn't - it was can you use a variac or two to step up from 110v to >> 220v. I think the answer is "nope". >> >> Well to be absolutely correct perhaps the answer is "briefly, accompanied by >> smoke" - just set the tap to halfway and apply 110v between tap and common >> and you'll get 220v (briefly) at what would normally be used for input. The >> smoke will mainly be emitted between tap and common. >> >> I gotta stop taking these meds........ >> >> my apologies to the list, >> Nick K4NYW >> >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:15:37 -0700 Subject: Re: bringing up ps Message-ID: <729CCE0C.B305.4359.9C89.3907567A5784@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Pantomime 1.2.0) From: w7qho To: Old Tube Radios Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_07373213.C22B.4138.B7BC.6E0BF24D41C8@aol.com" --=_07373213.C22B.4138.B7BC.6E0BF24D41C8@aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" =A0Just take a deep breath, throw the juce to it and enjoy the adrenalin=20= =A0rush... :^) -- Dennis D. =A0W7QHO Glendale, CA --=_07373213.C22B.4138.B7BC.6E0BF24D41C8@aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --=_07373213.C22B.4138.B7BC.6E0BF24D41C8@aol.com-- ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20090309100846.ylal5sh0e8wk8k8c@webmail.opentransfer.com> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 10:08:46 -0500 From: wf2u@ws19ops.com To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: variacs and 220v MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nick, I wish you a rapid recovery. I'm lucky in that, that I have a 2 KVA 240V "real" Variac, and it's =20 bi-dirctional. It has taps specifically used for 115 V input and =20 output of 115 V and higher, and vice versa. Although I have a 240 VAC drop in my shack, the convenience of setting =20 the voltage to the standard 220VAC for the European boatanchors is =20 really nice. I even bought a few European (mainly German power strips - available =20 even in the US - which accommodate almost all European plugs) which I =20 wired into the Variac. I use the Variac with 120 VAC input and set the =20 output to 220 VAC. 73, Meir WF2U Landrum, SC Quoting Nick England : > I can only say that I have a bad cold and medicine must have been affectin= g > my brain - somehow I thought the question was about using 110v variacs wit= h > 220v in and 220v out. > But it wasn't - it was can you use a variac or two to step up from 110v to > 220v. I think the answer is "nope". > > Well to be absolutely correct perhaps the answer is "briefly, accompanied = by > smoke" - just set the tap to halfway and apply 110v between tap and common > and you'll get 220v (briefly) at what would normally be used for input. Th= e > smoke will mainly be emitted between tap and common. > > I gotta stop taking these meds........ > > my apologies to the list, > Nick K4NYW > > ------------------------------ From: ail0@att.net To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: UPS charges Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:11:46 +0000 Message-Id: <031020091811.16350.49B6AD620002717F00003FDE22193122529B0A02D29B9B0EBFCF04070E@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_16350_1236708706_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_16350_1236708706_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a FedEx account which I opened years ago. I have a stack of shipping labels with my name, address and FedEx charging number on them. I take the package over to Kinko's , give them the filled-out label and they weigh it, give me a receipt and off it goes. I also get a discount from Fed Ex on my Amex Card. I have had occasion to ask that stuff be shipped to me and charged to my Fed Ex account; no problem. By the way, Consumer's Report says that US Post Office is faster and cheaper than UPS. 73s Art K3HBA --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_16350_1236708706_0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_16350_1236708706_0-- ------------------------------ End of BOATANCHORS Digest 4252 ******************************