20090903.ba v04_n285.bam.20090903 >From ???@??? Thu Sep 3 19:49:15 2009 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 18:48:26 CST From: Old Tube Radios To: Old Tube Radios Subject: BOATANCHORS digest 4285 Message-Id: <20090904004828.E948710B0BD@srvr1.theporch.com> BOATANCHORS Digest 4285 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Saving Paper from Mold by scb@hiwaay.net 2) Slug rack roller flats fix? by scb@hiwaay.net 3) Homebrew suggestions by "Jim Garland" <4cx250b@muohio.edu> 4) Boatanchor Sighting by David Hollander 5) Homebrew suggestions by "Jim Garland" <4cx250b@muohio.edu> 6) Boatanchors gang at Shelby/Dallas NC hamfest by John Poulton 7) Historical Photo by Jerry Proc 8) Fwd: MANUAL SEARCH E.M. Sargent Radio by WA5CAB@cs.com 9) Old Time Radio Manufacturing by Jerry Proc 10) Re: Old Time Radio Manufacturing by Al Klase 11) Re: Old Time Radio Manufacturing by Niel Wiegand 12) Re: Old Time Radio Manufacturing by Jack Harper 13) Name Tag R-388 by "Michael Hardie" 14) RE: Name Tag R-388 by "Ed Sieb" 15) Re: Name Tag R-388 by Heinz Breuer 16) Take us back to the golden age--please! by John Sehring 17) Re: Take us back to the golden age--please! by Jack Harper 18) Re: Old Time Radio Manufacturing by Shriver 19) Re: Take us back to the golden age--please! by "Guido" 20) Re: Take us back to the golden age--please! by Paul Beckwith 21) Re: Old Time Radio Manufacturing by "David Stinson" 22) Re: Old Time Radio Manufacturing by "Raymond Cote" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <20090901112825.121665ce9u6l3i5l@webmail.hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:28:25 -0500 From: scb@hiwaay.net To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Saving Paper from Mold MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any oxidizing agent like HyPerOx or bleach would likely break down and digest paper, I'd avoid both until I am assured by a trusted expert this wouldn't happen. The active part of white vinegar is dilute acetic acid, probably safer but confirm long-term effects before using. The fungal-toxic alternatives cited in other posts are probably the best long-term options. S.B. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20090901113216.13566wfaqrnku07k@webmail.hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:32:16 -0500 From: scb@hiwaay.net To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Slug rack roller flats fix? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The bane of the Collins and other permeability rack-tuned radios, flats worn into siezed cam follower rollers. Is there a good standard fix for this? TIA; S.B. ------------------------------ From: "Jim Garland" <4cx250b@muohio.edu> To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Homebrew suggestions Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 11:14:00 -0600 Message-ID: <016301ca2b27$9a40fe30$bd00a8c0@Garland> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0164_01CA2AF5.4FA68E30" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0164_01CA2AF5.4FA68E30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gang, I got my monthly email sales blurb from Marlin P. Jones Assoc (www.mpja.com ), which almost always has interesting and inexpensive electronics components. This month's specials strike me as nearly irresistable for boatanchor collectors with a homebrewing interest. Item 1: A $30 toroid autotransformer rated at 3600W that can step down your line voltage from 240V to 220V or from 120V to 110V. Perfect for lowering the line voltage on your 30S-1 or KWS-1, or Globe King 500. Or, for that matter, almost any boatanchor transmitter or receiver. It only weighs fourteen pounds. Pop it into an enclosure, hook an outlet strip to the output, and run your rigs at a safe voltage. Part no. is 18074 TR Item 2: A $17 solid state relay rated at 280VAC/50Amps. What's special about this relay is that it uses an AC control voltage (90-280VAC). Now you can build a master power switch for your station that only uses one of the relays and a toggle switch. Use two of them if you want to switch both sides of the AC line. You can also use one to take the stress off the on-off switch in your L4-B. Part no. is 18083 RL. Read about them at http://www.mpja.com/email/09-01-09.asp?r=146379 &p=18074+tr 73, Jim W8ZR ------=_NextPart_000_0164_01CA2AF5.4FA68E30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------=_NextPart_000_0164_01CA2AF5.4FA68E30-- ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4A9E83F5.2080503@cox.net> Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 07:40:53 -0700 From: David Hollander MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Boatanchor Sighting Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Watched the 1987 Woody Allen movie "Radio Days" last night. Very funny movie. Besides seeing a lot of neat 1930's radios, their is one scene where their is a Hammarlund SP-200 in the back of radio station's truck broadcasting from a remote site. Dave N7RK -- *********************************************************** Dave N7RK Boatanchors Home Page: http://members.cox.net/n7rk Phoenix, Arizona *DXCC Honor Roll* *WAZ#22 - 75 Meter SSB* ex-XE2/N7RK, N7RK/ZB2, VK2ERK, ZM0AJN, WB6NRK, WN6IWX Boatanchor and Antique Radio Collector ------------------------------ From: "Jim Garland" <4cx250b@muohio.edu> To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Homebrew suggestions Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 08:50:27 -0600 Message-ID: <01ed01ca2bdc$b7b396c0$bd00a8c0@Garland> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (Reposted since I evidently forget to send the original as "plain text" Hi Gang, I got my monthly email sales blurb from Marlin P. Jones Assoc (www.mpja.com), which almost always has interesting and inexpensive electronics components. This month's specials strike me as nearly irresistable for boatanchor collectors with a homebrewing interest. Item 1: A $30 toroid autotransformer rated at 3600W that can step down your line voltage from 240V to 220V or from 120V to 110V. Perfect for lowering the line voltage on your 30S-1 or KWS-1, or Globe King 500. Or, for that matter, almost any boatanchor transmitter or receiver. It only weighs fourteen pounds. Pop it into an enclosure, hook an outlet strip to the output, and run your rigs at a safe voltage. Part no. is 18074 TR Item 2: A $17 solid state relay rated at 280VAC/50Amps. What's special about this relay is that it uses an AC control voltage (90-280VAC). Now you can build a master power switch for your station that only uses one of the relays and a toggle switch. Use two of them if you want to switch both sides of the AC line. You can also use one to take the stress off the on-off switch in your L4-B. Part no. is 18083 RL. Read about them at http://www.mpja.com/email/09-01-09.asp?r=146379 73, Jim W8ZR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 12:43:15 -0400 (EDT) From: John Poulton To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Boatanchors gang at Shelby/Dallas NC hamfest Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-ID: The big (really big) hamfest at Dallas NC (formerly at Shelby NC) is coming up this weekend - A whole gang of us boatanchor fans will be set up together as usual. Come on by and chat, look at stuff, buy some stuff, sell some stuff, etc. We'll start setting up Thursday around noon - some of us will leave Saturday afternoon but some will be there Sunday too. We've got 15 spaces staked out near the spot marked "B" in this aerial photo. http://www.virhistory.com/ham/photos/dallas-31.JPG Come into the flea market area, go down the hill past the track and the white building and look for the yellow "BOATANCHORS!" banner. To whet your appetite, John K4OZY is bringing a bunch of heavy iron including an HT-33A, a really nice CR-88A, SX-99, SX-100, RME 4350 receiver with all accessories, Gonset GSB-100, R-1051, RME 6900, couple of SP-600's, and many others. Cheers, Nick K4NYW and a whole bunch of other boatanchorists including John K4OZY, Marty AA4RM, Rich KD6VK, Al W8UT, Steve K4TPF, and more ------------------------------ Message-ID: <660799.78519.qm@web112318.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 12:24:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerry Proc Subject: Historical Photo To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Everyone, I just received this Power Point presentation of historical photos about th= e Dornier Flying boat and the Graf Zeppelin. I draw attention to slide #25 since it shows the radio room (Der Funk Raum)= aboard the Graf Zeppelin. =20 http://jproc.ca/test/ Click on: The Maiden of Maiden Flights. -- Regards, Jerry Proc E-mail: jerry7proc@yahoo.com=0A=0A=0A ________________________________= __________________________________=0AThe new Internet Explorer=AE 8 - Faste= r, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! 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Sargent Radio To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_c2b.3b26ad58.37d03e9d_boundary" --part1_c2b.3b26ad58.37d03e9d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --part1_c2b.3b26ad58.37d03e9d_boundary-- ------------------------------ Message-ID: <76302.27796.qm@web112307.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:25:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerry Proc Subject: Old Time Radio Manufacturing To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello Everyone, Here's a photo which I extracted from a Power Point file illustrating images from America's past. This was the only radio related photo in the batch and looks like its 30's vintage. There is no other info which accompanies the photo. It's your guess as to where it was taken. Have fun with this one. http://jproc.ca/test/radio_manufacturing.jpg -- Regards, Jerry Proc E-mail: jerry7proc@yahoo.com __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4A9F43CC.2070505@ar88.net> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:19:24 -0400 From: Al Klase MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Old Tube Radios CC: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Old Time Radio Manufacturing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jerry, Probably Atwater Kent in Philadelphia shortly after they opened the world's largest radio factory on Wissahickon Avenue ca. 1924. The subassemblies in the foreground, with three tube sockets and two audio transformers, strongly suggest Model 20 or 20C, but could be one of the later sets. A series of these photos has been circulating in the antique radio community lately. Al Jerry Proc wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > Here's a photo which I extracted from a Power Point file illustrating images from America's past. This was the only radio related photo in the batch and looks like its 30's vintage. > > There is no other info which accompanies the photo. It's your guess as to where it was taken. Have fun with this one. > > http://jproc.ca/test/radio_manufacturing.jpg > > > -- > Regards, > Jerry Proc > E-mail: jerry7proc@yahoo.com > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now > http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. > > -- Al Klase - N3FRQ Jersey City, NJ http://www.skywaves.ar88.net/ ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4A9F4607.3040107@aggienetwork.com> Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 23:28:55 -0500 From: Niel Wiegand MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Old Time Radio Manufacturing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd guess mid 20's Atwater Kent plant in Philadelphia. Visible are several chassis that have three tube sockets and two tubular transformers (there's one right in front about 1/3 of the way over from the right hand corner). See http://www.suertenich.com/html/radios/ak20_2.jpg .... matches the AK20 receivers, 1924-25. Niel - W0VLZ Jerry Proc wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > Here's a photo which I extracted from a Power Point file illustrating > images from America's past. This was the only radio related photo in > the batch and looks like its 30's vintage. > > There is no other info which accompanies the photo. It's your guess > as to where it was taken. Have fun with this one. > > http://jproc.ca/test/radio_manufacturing.jpg > > > -- Regards, Jerry Proc E-mail: jerry7proc@yahoo.com > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark > your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 07:39:42 -0600 To: Old Tube Radios From: Jack Harper Subject: Re: Old Time Radio Manufacturing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20090903133942.B605C22DF84@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> At 10:28 PM 9/2/2009, you wrote: >I'd guess mid 20's Atwater Kent plant in Philadelphia. > >Visible are several chassis that have three tube=20 >sockets and two tubular transformers (there's=20 >one right in front about 1/3 of the way over=20 >from the right hand corner). See=20 >http://www.suertenich.com/html/radios/ak20_2.jpg=20 >.... matches the AK20 receivers, 1924-25. ...not to mention the hair styles - classic 20's=20 look (the "bobbed" one on the right for example). Regards to the List, Jack, W=D8YJ Evergreen, Colorado ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Michael Hardie" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Name Tag R-388 Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 08:30:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know of a source for an original or reproduction name tag for an R-388? (Screws also) Mike VE7MMH ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Ed Sieb" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: RE: Name Tag R-388 Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 13:02:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Digging, digging, digging into ancient files (going back to the late 90's), I've come up with three names you can try: Tom Marcotte, N5OFF Mandeville, LA 70448 Dan Arney, Northridge, CA 91325-3610 , Mike Chanter Garden City, Michigan 48135 Adresses can be provided privately. At one time, (a long time ago) all these guys provided R-388/51J3/4 plates. I bought some from each person, and was astisfied with all three. Dan Arney also stamped my plates with the serial # of my choice. In all cases screws were included, but any Philips head, 2-56 will do. Unfortunately, I don't have any email addresses, which by now, might be invalid. I'm also lacking call-signs for Dan Arney, and Mike Chanter, (which would be useful for a QRZ look-up). Ed, VA3ES ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Hardie wrote: Does anyone know of a source for an original or reproduction name tag for an R-388? (Screws also) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4AA0075B.4050200@debitel.net> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:13:47 +0200 From: Heinz Breuer MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Old Tube Radios CC: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Name Tag R-388 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dan 'Hank' Arney is KN6DI and he moved to McKinney, TX a couple years ago. Hank is active on the R390 list. His email and his mailing address is good at qrz.com 73 de Heinz DH2FA, KM5VT Ed Sieb schrieb: > Digging, digging, digging into ancient files (going back to the late 90's), I've come up > with three names you can try: > > Tom Marcotte, N5OFF > Mandeville, LA 70448 > > Dan Arney, > Northridge, CA 91325-3610 , > > Mike Chanter > Garden City, Michigan 48135 > > Adresses can be provided privately. > > At one time, (a long time ago) all these guys provided R-388/51J3/4 plates. I bought some > from each person, and was astisfied with all three. Dan Arney also stamped my plates with > the serial # of my choice. In all cases screws were included, but any Philips head, 2-56 > will do. > > Unfortunately, I don't have any email addresses, which by now, might be invalid. I'm also > lacking call-signs for Dan Arney, > and Mike Chanter, (which would be useful for a QRZ look-up). > > Ed, VA3ES > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Michael Hardie wrote: > Does anyone know of a source for an original or reproduction name tag for an > R-388? (Screws also) > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <322030.31845.qm@web45615.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 15:58:33 -0700 (PDT) From: John Sehring Subject: Take us back to the golden age--please! To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I can dream, can't I? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0oH2oXJ3Bg --John WB0EQ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:16:23 -0600 To: Old Tube Radios From: Jack Harper Subject: Re: Take us back to the golden age--please! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20090903231623.9D74022DC35@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Lovely... Regards to the List, Jack, W=D8YJ (Friend to all Things Hammarlund) At 04:58 PM 9/3/2009, you wrote: >I can dream, can't I? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZ0oH2oXJ3Bg > >--John WB0EQ > > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4AA053FF.8090506@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:40:47 -0400 From: Shriver MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Old Time Radio Manufacturing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Almost certain that photo is from the online archives at the Library of Congress. They are doing a great job of scanning materials and putting them online. Al Klase wrote: > Jerry, > > Probably Atwater Kent in Philadelphia shortly after they opened the > world's largest radio factory on Wissahickon Avenue ca. 1924. The > subassemblies in the foreground, with three tube sockets and two audio > transformers, strongly suggest Model 20 or 20C, but could be one of > the later sets. A series of these photos has been circulating in the > antique radio community lately. > > Al > > Jerry Proc wrote: >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Here's a photo which I extracted from a Power Point file illustrating >> images from America's past. This was the only radio related photo in >> the batch and looks like its 30's vintage. >> There is no other info which accompanies the photo. It's your guess >> as to where it was taken. Have fun with this one. >> http://jproc.ca/test/radio_manufacturing.jpg >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Jerry Proc >> E-mail: jerry7proc@yahoo.com >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________ >> Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark >> your favourite sites. Download it now >> http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. >> >> > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <004301ca2cf1$09de1410$4400000a@CPQ10443900021> From: "Guido" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Take us back to the golden age--please! Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 19:48:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marvelous! Guido KP4FAR ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Sehring" To: "Old Tube Radios" Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 6:58 PM Subject: Take us back to the golden age--please! >I can dream, can't I? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0oH2oXJ3Bg > > --John WB0EQ > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:59:32 -0700 To: Old Tube Radios From: Paul Beckwith Subject: Re: Take us back to the golden age--please! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20090903235947.8F3E010246@relay03.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> WOW!! Superb. Thanks for sharing, John. 73's de Paul K2LMQ Kingman, AZ At 03:58 PM 9/3/2009, John Sehring wrote: >I can dream, can't I? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0oH2oXJ3Bg > >--John WB0EQ > > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2FF176CE032E478AA63A37B740A2C00F@boudreaux> From: "David Stinson" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Old Time Radio Manufacturing Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 19:05:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just wondering- How come most Atwater Kent sets (notwithstanding things like the early 10s) get so little respect from the collector community? Is it some problem with design or quality, or is it just that there are so many of them around? ------------------------------ Message-ID: <90A1FFF690E04CB69B4CBFCC8AAEB0AF@HOME> From: "Raymond Cote" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Old Time Radio Manufacturing Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 14:48:08 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Especially since it is almost the only one a song was written about...namely sung by "Andy Owens" & titled "Atwater Kent" not a bad song either. ----------------------------------- Subject: Re: Old Time Radio Manufacturing > Just wondering- How come most Atwater Kent sets (notwithstanding things > like the early 10s) get so little > respect from the collector community? Is it some problem > with design or quality, or is it just that there are so many of them > around? > ------------------------------ End of BOATANCHORS Digest 4285 ******************************