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Fri Jan 15 06:12:00 2010 -0600 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:11:53 GMT From: Old Tube Radios To: Old Tube Radios Subject: BOATANCHORS digest 4308 Message-Id: <20100115121154.82C0224CFD6@minime.theporch.com> BOATANCHORS Digest 4308 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: boatanchor unpacking hint by k8mfo@aol.com 2) Re: boatanchor unpacking hint by k8mfo@aol.com 3) Re: boatanchor unpacking hint by Heinz Breuer 4) Re: boatanchor unpacking hint by k8mfo@aol.com 5) Re: boatanchor unpacking hint by "David Stinson" 6) RE: boatanchor ( packing) unpacking hint by "Thekan, Paul" 7) Re: boatanchor unpacking hint by "Guido" 8) RE: boatanchor packing by "Comarow, Avery" 9) Re: boatanchor packing by k8mfo@aol.com 10) Re: boatanchor unpacking hint by mac 11) Re: boatanchor unpacking hint by "Arden Allen" 12) Hank van Cleef? by Roy Morgan 13) RE: boatanchor unpacking hint by "Comarow, Avery" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: k8mfo@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:33:27 EST Subject: Re: boatanchor unpacking hint To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d712.190e8de1.3880d997_boundary" --part1_d712.190e8de1.3880d997_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Guys like K5MO, who work DX on CW, are VERY WISE, and their advice should be heeded! In a message dated 1/14/2010 3:32:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, johnmb@nc.rr.com writes: Pack as ye would have packeth unto you! The 11the Commandment John K5MO --part1_d712.190e8de1.3880d997_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --part1_d712.190e8de1.3880d997_boundary-- ------------------------------ From: k8mfo@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:52:56 EST Subject: Re: boatanchor unpacking hint To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e0e1.1aab24fc.3880de28_boundary" --part1_e0e1.1aab24fc.3880de28_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Obviously, "wadded newspaper" is not THE ANSWER, but as Avery points out, it can be used as packing around tubes and other things "under the hood" and it is ALWAYS BETTER than those "peanuts", which should be OUTLAWED. Personally, I think that a couple of layers of corrugated cardboard are superior to any of the "sheets". And cardboard can be easily found1 I never pack to minimize weight or cost, but figure that SURVIVABILITY is #1. Years ago I sent a Drake TR-7 to a guy on the East Coast after an EBAY sale. Here is his verbatim (thanks to "copy and post") feedback: "great shipping dude! You could have shipped a referigrator in that box!" (sic) 73 Don PS YES .. to some of the personal replies....UPS does have some beautiful drivers! In a message dated 1/14/2010 3:36:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ACOMAROW@usnews.com writes: Whatever works and floats your boat, but wadded-up newspaper?? Maybe for lightweight stuff, but I'll use that only as stuffing under the hood to keep tubes from jarring loose. What does work for heavy gear, and doesn't create those !!%?@!! staticky crumbs, is the rigid pink foam sheets used for insulating walls. It comes in various thicknesses, can be carved with a utility knife, and is much more dense than styrofoam, meaning that while it does create small bits when being cut, it won't generate them in the carton. All of this assumes that you don't want to opt for foam-in-place, which is great but pricey, and no, I will NOT try it at home with the insulation in a can. I know my limits. Avery -----Original Message----- From: owner-boatanchors@theporch.com [mailto:owner-boatanchors@theporch.com] On Behalf Of k8mfo@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:19 PM To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: boatanchor unpacking hint This thread is very pertinent! Its also very redundant to many of you who do a wonderful job of packing the treasures that are so enjoyable to us. I have always felt that the "styrofoam peanuts" as well as sheets, represent two of the biggest "frauds" ever perpetrated upon mankind! Well, MAYBE not quite that bad, but they are essentially useless. I rely on two of my college roommates, both of whom were packaging engineers for major companies to back me up on my comment! I used to also be a fairly serious key collector, and I could tell you plenty of horror stories about "peanuts", and likewise with the "sheets" when sending keys or boatanchors. At present I am a letter manager volunteer for the 8th Area QSL Bureau, and I always cringe when my shipments of cards are bathed in peanuts! Out to the backyard I go to get rid of that residue! Anyway, I digress. Plastic garbage bags, stretch wrap, or whatever are SOP when I send anything out, along with copious amounts of bubble wrap, supplemented with double or triple boxing, plain old cardboard and wadded newspaper. Years ago I knew a beautiful UPS driver (caught your attention, didn't I?) , who highly recommended wadded newspaper for packing. Her advice was heeded. Likewise, the use of old corrugated boxes, to protect front panels, is good. As experienced packers say, pack for "no rattles", and always assume that King Kong and/or his relatives will handle your package at each point in transit! I have sent 32V3 transmitters to Thailand, HRO-50 and Collins 75A4 receivers to Europe, and telegraph keys all over the world. Cross my fingers, but my only two casualties were with a Kenwood VFO-230 sent to California via UPS and a Japanese "coffin bug" sent to Colorado via the Post Office. King Kong had found both of these items, and I could have done nothing to prevent their destruction. On the good side, in spite of me sending packing advice to a fellow in Australia, with extra funds for materials, an uncommon 5 pound telegraph bug was sent to me in nothing but a padded envelope. It arrived in perfect condition. Now that is LUCK! Don Karvonen K8MFO --part1_e0e1.1aab24fc.3880de28_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --part1_e0e1.1aab24fc.3880de28_boundary-- ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4B4F857C.5020205@debitel.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:58:36 +0100 From: Heinz Breuer MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Old Tube Radios CC: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: boatanchor unpacking hint Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fair Radio used to ship their stuff in wadded newspaper. I got my first R390A that way about 10 years ago and it made it to Germany in perfect condition. They had the wadded newspaper packed very very dense and tight around the R390A. They must have used several weekend editions to fill the box. It was very heavy. vy 73 Heinz DH2FA, KM5VT Comarow, Avery schrieb: > > Whatever works and floats your boat, but wadded-up newspaper?? Maybe for > lightweight stuff, but I'll use that only as stuffing under the hood to > keep tubes from jarring loose. > > What does work for heavy gear, and doesn't create those !!%?@!! staticky > crumbs, is the rigid pink foam sheets used for insulating walls. It > comes in various thicknesses, can be carved with a utility knife, and is > much more dense than styrofoam, meaning that while it does create small > bits when being cut, it won't generate them in the carton. > > All of this assumes that you don't want to opt for foam-in-place, which > is great but pricey, and no, I will NOT try it at home with the > insulation in a can. I know my limits. > > Avery > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-boatanchors@theporch.com > [mailto:owner-boatanchors@theporch.com] On Behalf Of k8mfo@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:19 PM > To: Old Tube Radios > Subject: Re: boatanchor unpacking hint > > This thread is very pertinent! Its also very redundant to many of you > > who do a wonderful job of packing the treasures that are so enjoyable > to us. > > I have always felt that the "styrofoam peanuts" as well as sheets, > represent two of the biggest "frauds" ever perpetrated upon mankind! > Well, > MAYBE not quite that bad, but they are essentially useless. I rely on > two of > my college roommates, both of whom were packaging engineers for major > companies to back me up on my comment! I used to also be a fairly > serious > key collector, and I could tell you plenty of horror stories about > "peanuts", > and likewise with the "sheets" when sending keys or boatanchors. At > present I am a letter manager volunteer for the 8th Area QSL Bureau, > and I > always cringe when my shipments of cards are bathed in peanuts! Out > to the > backyard I go to get rid of that residue! Anyway, I digress. > > Plastic garbage bags, stretch wrap, or whatever are SOP when I send > anything out, along with copious amounts of bubble wrap, supplemented > with double > or triple boxing, plain old cardboard and wadded newspaper. Years > ago I > knew a beautiful UPS driver (caught your attention, didn't I?) , who > highly recommended wadded newspaper for packing. Her advice was > heeded. > Likewise, the use of old corrugated boxes, to protect front panels, is > good. > As experienced packers say, pack for "no rattles", and always > assume that King Kong and/or his relatives will handle your package at > each point in transit! > > I have sent 32V3 transmitters to Thailand, HRO-50 and Collins 75A4 > receivers to Europe, and telegraph keys all over the world. Cross my > fingers, > but my only two casualties were with a Kenwood VFO-230 sent to > California via UPS and a Japanese "coffin bug" sent to Colorado via the > Post Office. > King Kong had found both of these items, and I could have done nothing > to prevent their destruction. > > On the good side, in spite of me sending packing advice to a fellow in > Australia, with extra funds for materials, an uncommon 5 pound telegraph > bug was sent to me in nothing but a padded envelope. It arrived in > perfect > condition. Now that is LUCK! > > > Don Karvonen K8MFO > > > > > ------------------------------ From: k8mfo@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:05:25 EST Subject: Re: boatanchor unpacking hint To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e7c2.3650fad.3880e115_boundary" --part1_e7c2.3650fad.3880e115_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A "patient" wadded newspaper packing job does take a lot of time, and does remind you of a "cocoon" ... You don't use a single sales paper from one company! As Heinz says, "many weekend editions' is a good guide! 73 Don K8MFO In a message dated 1/14/2010 3:59:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, hbreuer@debitel.net writes: Fair Radio used to ship their stuff in wadded newspaper. I got my first R390A that way about 10 years ago and it made it to Germany in perfect condition. They had the wadded newspaper packed very very dense and tight around the R390A. They must have used several weekend editions to fill the box. It was very heavy. vy 73 Heinz DH2FA, KM5VT Comarow, Avery schrieb: > > Whatever works and floats your boat, but wadded-up newspaper?? Maybe for > lightweight stuff, but I'll use that only as stuffing under the hood to > keep tubes from jarring loose. > > What does work for heavy gear, and doesn't create those !!%?@!! staticky > crumbs, is the rigid pink foam sheets used for insulating walls. It > comes in various thicknesses, can be carved with a utility knife, and is > much more dense than styrofoam, meaning that while it does create small > bits when being cut, it won't generate them in the carton. > > All of this assumes that you don't want to opt for foam-in-place, which > is great but pricey, and no, I will NOT try it at home with the > insulation in a can. I know my limits. > > Avery > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-boatanchors@theporch.com > [mailto:owner-boatanchors@theporch.com] On Behalf Of k8mfo@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:19 PM > To: Old Tube Radios > Subject: Re: boatanchor unpacking hint > > This thread is very pertinent! Its also very redundant to many of you > > who do a wonderful job of packing the treasures that are so enjoyable > to us. > > I have always felt that the "styrofoam peanuts" as well as sheets, > represent two of the biggest "frauds" ever perpetrated upon mankind! > Well, > MAYBE not quite that bad, but they are essentially useless. I rely on > two of > my college roommates, both of whom were packaging engineers for major > companies to back me up on my comment! I used to also be a fairly > serious > key collector, and I could tell you plenty of horror stories about > "peanuts", > and likewise with the "sheets" when sending keys or boatanchors. At > present I am a letter manager volunteer for the 8th Area QSL Bureau, > and I > always cringe when my shipments of cards are bathed in peanuts! Out > to the > backyard I go to get rid of that residue! Anyway, I digress. > > Plastic garbage bags, stretch wrap, or whatever are SOP when I send > anything out, along with copious amounts of bubble wrap, supplemented > with double > or triple boxing, plain old cardboard and wadded newspaper. Years > ago I > knew a beautiful UPS driver (caught your attention, didn't I?) , who > highly recommended wadded newspaper for packing. Her advice was > heeded. > Likewise, the use of old corrugated boxes, to protect front panels, is > good. > As experienced packers say, pack for "no rattles", and always > assume that King Kong and/or his relatives will handle your package at > each point in transit! > > I have sent 32V3 transmitters to Thailand, HRO-50 and Collins 75A4 > receivers to Europe, and telegraph keys all over the world. Cross my > fingers, > but my only two casualties were with a Kenwood VFO-230 sent to > California via UPS and a Japanese "coffin bug" sent to Colorado via the > Post Office. > King Kong had found both of these items, and I could have done nothing > to prevent their destruction. > > On the good side, in spite of me sending packing advice to a fellow in > Australia, with extra funds for materials, an uncommon 5 pound telegraph > bug was sent to me in nothing but a padded envelope. It arrived in > perfect > condition. Now that is LUCK! > > > Don Karvonen K8MFO > > > > > --part1_e7c2.3650fad.3880e115_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --part1_e7c2.3650fad.3880e115_boundary-- ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "David Stinson" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: boatanchor unpacking hint Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:42:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm still making a layer under, over and around of empty plastic water and soda bottles, (with the tops on, of course) which work very well as air-cushion bumpers. I also have a "strip" paper shredder. I shred all the excess paper around here and at work (you'd be surprised how much paper gets pitched out) and densely stuff it in around the bottles. All the paper really does is keep the bottles in place; the bottles do the real work. I ship stuff all over the world. It works well. With packing peanuts at $15 a bag, the little $11 strip paper shredder has paid for itself many times. The hard part is finding a "strip" shredder; everyone wants to sell the "confette" cross-cut type, and that's no good. 73 Dave S. ------------------------------ From: "Thekan, Paul" To: Old Tube Radios Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:10:03 -0800 Subject: RE: boatanchor ( packing) unpacking hint Message-ID: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On larger items like radios and the like I will make up my own packing box= and mail it to the person sending me the radio. All he has to do is place = the set in the box , use the packing tape I've supplied , and then ship it.=20 Years ago I had a BC 939 antenna tuner shipped by UPS from San Diego to he= re in the SF Bay Area about 450 miles +/- wrapped only in 3 sheets of newsp= aper and dumped in a carboard box. Needles to say there where a lot of bust= ed parts rattling around in the case when I got it. Paul N6FEG _____________________________ This message, including any attachments, may include privileged, confidential and/or inside information. Any distribution or use of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by replying to this message and then delete it from your system. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001b01ca9572$2f01add0$4000000a@CPQ10443900021> From: "Guido" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: boatanchor unpacking hint Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:34:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I always used wadded newspaper for shipping BAs to the mainland and never ever had a mishap. BTW I shipped via USPS Parcel Post. 73s Guido Santacana KP4FAR ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Old Tube Radios" Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 4:18 PM Subject: Re: boatanchor unpacking hint > This thread is very pertinent! Its also very redundant to many of you > who do a wonderful job of packing the treasures that are so enjoyable to > us. > > I have always felt that the "styrofoam peanuts" as well as sheets, > represent two of the biggest "frauds" ever perpetrated upon mankind! > Well, > MAYBE not quite that bad, but they are essentially useless. I rely on > two of > my college roommates, both of whom were packaging engineers for major > companies to back me up on my comment! I used to also be a fairly > serious > key collector, and I could tell you plenty of horror stories about > "peanuts", > and likewise with the "sheets" when sending keys or boatanchors. At > present I am a letter manager volunteer for the 8th Area QSL Bureau, and > I > always cringe when my shipments of cards are bathed in peanuts! Out to > the > backyard I go to get rid of that residue! Anyway, I digress. > > Plastic garbage bags, stretch wrap, or whatever are SOP when I send > anything out, along with copious amounts of bubble wrap, supplemented with > double > or triple boxing, plain old cardboard and wadded newspaper. Years ago > I > knew a beautiful UPS driver (caught your attention, didn't I?) , who > highly recommended wadded newspaper for packing. Her advice was > heeded. > Likewise, the use of old corrugated boxes, to protect front panels, is > good. > As experienced packers say, pack for "no rattles", and always > assume that King Kong and/or his relatives will handle your package at > each > point in transit! > > I have sent 32V3 transmitters to Thailand, HRO-50 and Collins 75A4 > receivers to Europe, and telegraph keys all over the world. Cross my > fingers, > but my only two casualties were with a Kenwood VFO-230 sent to California > via UPS and a Japanese "coffin bug" sent to Colorado via the Post Office. > King Kong had found both of these items, and I could have done nothing to > prevent their destruction. > > On the good side, in spite of me sending packing advice to a fellow in > Australia, with extra funds for materials, an uncommon 5 pound telegraph > bug > was sent to me in nothing but a padded envelope. It arrived in perfect > condition. Now that is LUCK! > > > Don Karvonen K8MFO > > > ------------------------------ Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA9574.FC7D2306" Subject: RE: boatanchor packing Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:50:49 -0500 Message-ID: <5DB55C95EDBFFA4383CE672594D7E0D204A8971C@EXCHANGE.usn.root.ent> From: "Comarow, Avery" To: Old Tube Radios This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA9574.FC7D2306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I cast no aspersions on anyone who is comfortable with wadded newspaper, = and Fair Radio had had more experience shipping big iron than almost = anybody else. To me, the thought of shipping a nice SP-600 that way = makes me shudder. =20 Avery W3AVE Potomac, Md. =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA9574.FC7D2306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA9574.FC7D2306-- ------------------------------ From: k8mfo@aol.com Message-ID: <138a4.6d8afed2.38810b08@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:04:24 EST Subject: Re: boatanchor packing To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_138a4.6d8afed2.38810b08_boundary" --part1_138a4.6d8afed2.38810b08_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We're talking about MANY LAYERS of newspaper! TRY IT ...! It is now time for silence from Amish Ohio! 73 Don K8MFO n a message dated 1/14/2010 6:55:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ACOMAROW@usnews.com writes: cast no aspersions on anyone who is comfortable with wadded newspaper, and Fair Radio had had more experience shipping big iron than almost anybody else. To me, the thought of shipping a nice SP-600 that way makes me shudder. Avery W3AVE Potomac, Md. --part1_138a4.6d8afed2.38810b08_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --part1_138a4.6d8afed2.38810b08_boundary-- ------------------------------ Message-Id: <31C9BB92-119A-42F5-839F-B612C61E8A6A@aol.com> From: mac To: Old Tube Radios Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: boatanchor unpacking hint Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:49:45 -0800 Me too, but use a lot of it and pack tightly. I usually double box electronics. Dennis D. W7QHO Glendale, CA On Jan 14, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Guido wrote: > I always used wadded newspaper for shipping BAs to the mainland and > never ever had a mishap. BTW I shipped via USPS Parcel Post. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <006a01ca9597$ce5a38a0$669e480c@KB6NAX> From: "Arden Allen" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: boatanchor unpacking hint Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:55:07 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > .......What does work for heavy gear, and doesn't create those !!%?@!! staticky crumbs, is the rigid pink foam sheets used for insulating walls. ........ Oh horrors! Rigid foam is responsible for a lot of damage. It doesn't compress linearly and dissipate energy gradually keeping the G's down. It sharply yields at its force limit and then extrudes through dial glass windows and the like. The box still looks nice but inside things are bent out of shape. What you want is packing marterial that compresses in a linear fashion. It's the same physics as properly using your car's breaks to stop instead of hitting a concrete wall to stop. Newspaper, wadded into semi-compact balls makes an excellent linear decelerator. Arden Allen KB6NAX Adopt a shelter dog, save an innocent life, and make a friend forever =:-) ------------------------------ Message-Id: <9ED19792-C7B4-476C-B196-78A889491502@earthlink.net> From: Roy Morgan To: Old Tube Radios Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Hank van Cleef? Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 00:04:18 -0500 Anchorites, I wonder if Hank van Cleef is on the list, or if anyone knows his email or whereabouts cyberwise. Roy Roy Morgan k1lky@earthlink.net 529 Cobb St. Groton NY, 13073 Home: 607-898-3607 Cell: 301-928-7794 ------------------------------ Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA95DB.E42BE4F6" Subject: RE: boatanchor unpacking hint Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 07:11:39 -0500 Message-ID: <5DB55C95EDBFFA4383CE672594D7E0D204A89720@EXCHANGE.usn.root.ent> From: "Comarow, Avery" To: Old Tube Radios This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA95DB.E42BE4F6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You newspaper guys are gonna make me wind up with sore wrists and = newsprint-blackened hands. But I could swear, after years of reading = threads on the topic, that the consensus best material to use was pink = foam. =20 I did not say, however, and should have, that I use it between the outer = and inner cartons, and not next to the boatanchor itself. For the core = packing, I tape cardboard over dial and meter faces (using freezer tape, = which sticks but comes off without jeopardizing the paint), generously = wrap the unit in large-bubble wrap to fit snugly into a carton with at = least 2 inches of room on all sides, and tape the carton shut. A larger = carton, again with 2 inches or more of space on all sides, gets pink = foam on the bottom, the inner carton is placed inside, and enough pink = foam is squeezed in on all sides and the top to achieve a tight fit. =20 What about this approach? =20 Avery W3AVE =20 =20 ________________________________ From: owner-boatanchors@theporch.com on behalf of Arden Allen Sent: Thu 1/14/2010 10:55 PM To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: boatanchor unpacking hint > .......What does work for heavy gear, and doesn't create those !!%?@!! staticky crumbs, is the rigid pink foam sheets used for insulating walls. = ........ Oh horrors! Rigid foam is responsible for a lot of damage. It doesn't compress linearly and dissipate energy gradually keeping the G's down. = It sharply yields at its force limit and then extrudes through dial glass windows and the like. The box still looks nice but inside things are = bent out of shape. What you want is packing marterial that compresses in a linear fashion. It's the same physics as properly using your car's = breaks to stop instead of hitting a concrete wall to stop. Newspaper, wadded into semi-compact balls makes an excellent linear decelerator. Arden Allen KB6NAX Adopt a shelter dog, save an innocent life, and make a friend forever =3D:-) ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA95DB.E42BE4F6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA95DB.E42BE4F6-- ------------------------------ End of BOATANCHORS Digest 4308 ******************************