20100122.ba v04_n311.bam.20100122 >From ???@??? Fri Jan 22 21:54:58 2010 -0600 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 21:54:52 CST From: Old Tube Radios To: Old Tube Radios Subject: BOATANCHORS digest 4311 Message-Id: <20100123035452.EAE55B3B00@minime.theporch.com> BOATANCHORS Digest 4311 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: boatanchor peanuts by Kim Herron 2) RE: boatanchor peanuts by "A Parker" 3) Re: boatanchor unpacking hint by "Arden Allen" 4) Re: A tale of two auctions. by jim lockwood 5) Re: A tale of two auctions. by Roy Morgan 6) Re: A tale of two auctions. by "David Stinson" 7) RE: A tale of two auctions. by "Jose V. Gavila" 8) Re: boatanchor unpacking hint by Tom Norris 9) Aircraft Head Set by "David Stinson" 10) Re: [Milsurplus] Aircraft Head Set by "David Stinson" 11) 20A for Sale by "Wilson Lamb" 12) Re: Aircraft Head Set by Gary Woods 13) Re: Aircraft Head Set by Roy Morgan 14) Re: Aircraft Head Set by "David Stinson" 15) No KSM/K6KPH 20 January by Richard Dillman 16) More "Mint" Nonsense.... by "David Stinson" 17) Re: More "Mint" Nonsense.... by "Robert Roehrig (K9EUI)" 18) BC-348 by "Wilson Lamb" 19) Re: BC-348 by wa5cab@cs.com 20) Re: More "Mint" Nonsense.... by "David Stinson" 21) Re: BC-348 by Jack Antonio 22) Old Philco Plastic Alignment Tool by "David Stinson" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <896632.51320.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:30:20 -0800 (PST) From: Kim Herron Subject: Re: boatanchor peanuts To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1695993818-1263771020=:51320" --0-1695993818-1263771020=:51320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Acetone is the stuff. Kim Herron W8ZV kim.herron@sbcglobal.net 1-616-677-3706 --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Heinz Breuer wrote: From: Heinz Breuer Subject: Re: boatanchor peanuts To: "Old Tube Radios" Cc: "Old Tube Radios" Date: Sunday, January 17, 2010, 6:20 PM wasn't it acetone? vy 73 Heinz DH2FA, KM5VT Ralph Parker schrieb: >> During the early days of my boat anchor collecting I had enough coming in >> that they were a pain to dispose of. > > I've been going to use some of mine to make some coil dope, > but I've forgotten what to dissolve them in. Anyone remember? > > VE7XF > > > --0-1695993818-1263771020=:51320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --0-1695993818-1263771020=:51320-- ------------------------------ From: "A Parker" Message-ID: <41.82.19543.0B4A35B4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> To: Old Tube Radios Subject: RE: boatanchor peanuts Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:00:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree, that's what I've used. 73, Al Parker, W8UT New Bern, NC www.boatanchors.org www.hammarlund.info -----Original Message----- From: owner-boatanchors@theporch.com [mailto:owner-boatanchors@theporch.com] On Behalf Of Kim Herron Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:30 PM To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: boatanchor peanuts Acetone is the stuff. Kim Herron W8ZV kim.herron@sbcglobal.net 1-616-677-3706 --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Heinz Breuer wrote: From: Heinz Breuer Subject: Re: boatanchor peanuts To: "Old Tube Radios" Cc: "Old Tube Radios" Date: Sunday, January 17, 2010, 6:20 PM wasn't it acetone? vy 73 Heinz DH2FA, KM5VT Ralph Parker schrieb: >> During the early days of my boat anchor collecting I had enough >> coming in that they were a pain to dispose of. > > I've been going to use some of mine to make some coil dope, but I've > forgotten what to dissolve them in. Anyone remember? > > VE7XF > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <004601ca97d7$b9f34090$0e9e480c@KB6NAX> From: "Arden Allen" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: boatanchor unpacking hint Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:39:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > ....I recall reading where a similar problem occurred with agricultural seeds that were donated to a country following a typhoon/tidal wave. ...... A former supervisor used to say about our imbroglios, "beware the ingenious idiot!". Arden Allen KB6NAX Adopt a shelter dog, save an innocent life, and make a friend forever =:-) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4b53c16e.9413f30a.389f.5e2d@mx.google.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:01:39 -0800 To: Old Tube Radios From: jim lockwood Subject: Re: A tale of two auctions. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 04:30 AM 1/4/2010, john wrote: >So many boatanchors, so little space... John, You didn't have any space to spare for boatanchors when I was at your house 13 years ago. Do you have more now? (Space, that is.....) :-) Jim - k4ccf ------------------------------ Cc: Old Tube Radios Message-Id: <2DEB05C0-EE6F-42DB-9E97-CA880E0B4892@earthlink.net> From: Roy Morgan To: Old Tube Radios Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: A tale of two auctions. Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:15:25 -0500 On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:01 PM, jim lockwood wrote: > At 04:30 AM 1/4/2010, john wrote: > >> So many boatanchors, so little space... > > John, > You didn't have any space to spare for boatanchors when I was at > your house 13 years ago. Do you have more now? (Space, that > is.....) :-) > Jim - k4ccf What happens is this, I think: We become older and wiser. And we become much more practiced and skill full in cramming more and more treasures into the same space as before. Of course no junk gets added, only Junque and Treasures! Roy Roy Morgan k1lky@earthlink.net 529 Cobb St. Groton NY, 13073 Home: 607-898-3607 Cell: 301-928-7794 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <01F5346375CD42EC9917AA13841C6AE6@boudreaux> From: "David Stinson" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: A tale of two auctions. Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 05:57:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Morgan" Subject: Re: A tale of two auctions. > ... Of course no junk gets added, only Junque and Treasures! I just read this to my sweet Kay. She rolled her eyes and said: "Ask their wives about that..." ;-) ------------------------------ From: "Jose V. Gavila" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: RE: A tale of two auctions. Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:48:57 +0100 Message-ID: <9625A746BFF74ED5861624DFE759DD5A@jgavila> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please, don't ask my wife about her opinion of my last works: http://jvgavila.com/shack20b.htm :-) (and then there are the other locations in the house and garage, where BAs and classic radio gear are located) I have seen that, in my case, there is a clear pattern: 1991 - first shack. One rig + 8 years: 1999 - second shack in new house. 30 or so rigs +10 years: 2009 - third shack adding a new room at new house. 80 or so rigs. +10 years: 2019 - 130+ rigs ??? ;-) Best regards, JOSE -- 73 EB5AGV - JOSE V. GAVILA - IM99sm La Canyada - Valencia(SPAIN) Vintage Radio and Test Equipment........... http://jvgavila.com RadioRepair BLOG............... http://radiorepair.blogspot.com -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-boatanchors@theporch.com [mailto:owner-boatanchors@theporch.com] En nombre de David Stinson Enviado el: lunes, 18 de enero de 2010 12:58 Para: Old Tube Radios Asunto: Re: A tale of two auctions. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Morgan" Subject: Re: A tale of two auctions. > ... Of course no junk gets added, only Junque and Treasures! I just read this to my sweet Kay. She rolled her eyes and said: "Ask their wives about that..." ;-) ------------------------------ Subject: Re: boatanchor unpacking hint Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Tom Norris Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:39:19 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: To: Old Tube Radios Yep! They *must* be use in sealed bags - which is a good idea for = peanut-type material anyway. ALSO, they will dissolve in water, so you *could* just dump them out on = the or driveway and go at 'em with a hose. They don't taste too bad = either. (don't ask how I know) (you could probably go at a pile of the styrofoam type with a hose, if = you sprayed them with acetone of some other vile substance, though I'd = strongly advise against such.) With proper ventilation, you *can* dissolve those hideous styrofoam = things down and use them for making coil dope, potting compound, all = sorts of stuff. Bear in mind the solvents needed to do this are quite = toxic, so one should do such experiments outside! Tom NU4G On Jan 16, 2010, at 9:36 AM, David Stinson wrote: > While we're talking about that experiment with popcorn as packing = material: > There's still on the market, a cornstarch-derived packing "peanut." > Looks good and "green;" you can feel all warm and squishy > about using it. One big problem: these "peanuts" quickly absorb any > moisture in the air and shrink.... a lot. I had an item packaged for > about a week while waiting for an auction to close. It rained > several days that week. When I got ready to ship it, it "rattled." > I had to open and repack it since, despite it being inside a dry = storage area, > the "peanuts" had shrunk considerably. I guess they'd be OK for items > you ship "right now," and during dry weather, but I wouldn't recommend = it > in wetter areas, or for things that are going to be many days in = transit. >=20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "David Stinson" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Aircraft Head Set Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:00:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can any of you Cold-Warriors ID this headset? http://home.netcom.com/~arc5/Headset/ Thanks. ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "David Stinson" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Aircraft Head Set Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:06:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit P.S. Does anyone know if replacement earpads are available? These are "crispy." ------------------------------ Message-ID: <0A6C155C60D4419B9781C22986E282FA@wilsonspc> From: "Wilson Lamb" To: Old Tube Radios Cc: Subject: 20A for Sale Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:46:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nice looking rackmount 20A, works, although I have not done an alignment. 10W out on CW and SSB with tone input. Reproduction manual on order. Plan to use in CX, but could part with it if somene wanted. Located NC, hope to sell locally. Wilson W4BOH ------------------------------ From: Gary Woods To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Aircraft Head Set Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:30:16 -0500 Message-ID: <1gk9l517a2rs9kbntnjq27ia3a6eh5jf70@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:00:56 -0600, you wrote: > >Can any of you Cold-Warriors ID this headset? A possible datapoint: This looks exactly like a headset I got from Air Force Mars while I was a Navy flight radioman.... can't find it at the moment amidst the junque to look at numbers. My earpads look even worse than your example. If it's the same thing, it's low-Z; 4 ohms I think. Still works fine plugged into the jack on the usual aircraft radio sets, but anybody listening to the feed to the intercom system won't hear much. Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G ------------------------------ From: Roy Morgan To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Aircraft Head Set Message-Id: <8D2C4BC2-DF65-4EAE-9F79-E8D66B7D0561@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:33:50 -0500 Cc: Old Tube Radios On Jan 18, 2010, at 3:00 PM, David Stinson wrote: > Can any of you Cold-Warriors ID this headset? > http://home.netcom.com/~arc5/Headset/ Dave, That headset is old and crusty. I would give it a treatment with Caig RBR (or whatever they call it now.. rubber restorer) before you do anything else. Then a good washing might bring it back to much prettier. Roy Roy Morgan k1lky@earthlink.net 529 Cobb St. Groton NY, 13073 Home: 607-898-3607 Cell: 301-928-7794 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <76EE607C2677469F87ABB16EE15564E2@boudreaux> From: "David Stinson" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Aircraft Head Set Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:09:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the help, ya'll! Looks like it's the H-78C/AIC, as was suggested. 73 Dave S. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <31438863.1264050740804.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:12:20 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Dillman To: Old Tube Radios Subject: No KSM/K6KPH 20 January Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To those who may have been listening for the promised special operations of KSM and K6KPH on 20 January we offer an apology. e were all set to go but a storm closed the road to the receiving site due to flooding and telephone service was also knocked out. So even if we had been able to get to the station we would not have been able to key the transmitters. The park promises a reschedule of the event, possibly in April. VY 73, RD ================================= Richard Dillman, W6AWO Chief Operator, Coast Station KSM Maritime Radio Historical Society http://www.radiomarine.org ================================= ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "David Stinson" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: More "Mint" Nonsense.... Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 07:09:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit o.O "Mint Condition ...............Receiver. This is as Mint as you will find. There are two small scratches on the top cover....." ( rolling eyes....) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 09:24:56 -0600 (CST) From: "Robert Roehrig (K9EUI)" To: Old Tube Radios Cc: Old Tube Radios Message-ID: <386474019.537741264173896077.JavaMail.root@mars.aurora.edu> Subject: Re: More "Mint" Nonsense.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- "David Stinson" wrote: > > "Mint Condition ...............Receiver. > This is as Mint as you will find. > There are two small scratches on the top cover....." > > ( rolling eyes....) Yeah - but Dave, they are original scratches :-) Bob K9EUI ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Wilson Lamb" To: Old Tube Radios Cc: Subject: BC-348 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:34:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why do I keep doing this to myself? I got out a BC-348 that was given to me by a friend, passed on from a dead relative some years ago. What a beautiful piece of mechanical work! There is a label, 348-N, but when i look at a manual for J,N, and Q versions, it's not like mine at all, even though they say those versions are alike! I have VT 86, 86, 91, 63, 86, 70, 93, 48. That's the lineup of the -P version. SO, could mine be in the wrong case? It's not butchered, except to rewire the filaments for 6V. There's a 6V xfmr, but B+ is derived directly from the line! I'm trying to remember not to touch any grounds, but don't know if the chassis is floating or not. The cord is two wire! needless to say, I'm planning a pwr xfmr installation! If you have a good link to the -N book, I'd appreciate it, or know of a source for buying one? I don't remember these as very hot, but with two RF amps, it should be pretty good. The book gives the sensitivity specs, which are not impressive, however. Thanks for whatever insight you can pass on. 73, Wilson W4BOH PS; The CX contest is the cause of all this trouble! ------------------------------ From: wa5cab@cs.com Message-ID: <9291.721144fc.388b2e61@cs.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:37:53 EST Subject: Re: BC-348 To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_9291.721144fc.388b2e61_boundary" --part1_9291.721144fc.388b2e61_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wilson, If the radio actually sorta works with that tube lineup, you do not have a BC-348-N (or -J or -Q). Those three models used all single-ended tubes (no grid caps). As the audio pack is most likely missing, it would take some digging to determine what model you actually have. If Band 1 covers 200-500 KC, then the choices would be either HKLR or MOPS. If not, then it would be BCEG. I sell manual reprints for all models. And as someone will certainly mention, there are several places from which you can download so-so copies for free. As the receiver common buss is tied to chassis (B- should be connected to chassis through a resistor ana/or choke but probably no longer is), if there is no isolation transformer then one side of the AC line has to go either to chassis or to the bias network. In a message dated 1/22/2010 9:54:54 AM Central Standard Time, infomet@embarqmail.com writes: > Why do I keep doing this to myself? > I got out a BC-348 that was given to me by a friend, passed on from a dead > relative some years ago. > What a beautiful piece of mechanical work! > There is a label, 348-N, but when i look at a manual for J,N, and Q > versions, it's not like mine at all, even though they say those versions > are > alike! > > I have VT 86, 86, 91, 63, 86, 70, 93, 48. > That's the lineup of the -P version. > > SO, could mine be in the wrong case? It's not butchered, except to rewire > the filaments for 6V. There's a 6V xfmr, but B+ is derived directly from > the line! I'm trying to remember not to touch any grounds, but don't know > if the chassis is floating or not. The cord is two wire! needless to > say, > I'm planning a pwr xfmr installation! > > If you have a good link to the -N book, I'd appreciate it, or know of a > source for buying one? > I don't remember these as very hot, but with two RF amps, it should be > pretty good. The book gives the sensitivity specs, which are not > impressive, however. > Robert & Susan Downs - Houston wa5cab dot com (Web Store) MVPA 9480 --part1_9291.721144fc.388b2e61_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --part1_9291.721144fc.388b2e61_boundary-- ------------------------------ Message-ID: <92B84AB02976460FB66909A93D21AC38@boudreaux> From: "David Stinson" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: More "Mint" Nonsense.... Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:59:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Roehrig (K9EUI)" > Yeah - but Dave, they are original scratches :-) Anyone who says "mint" in a listing is asking for grief. You'd better have a good tolerance for gripers, because for the "mint" buyer, nothing is ever "mint" enough ;-). ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4B59E644.8000104@sbcglobal.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 09:54:12 -0800 From: Jack Antonio MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Old Tube Radios CC: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: BC-348 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is the label you are referring to the nameplate on the front panel, or the paper label in the case? The cases are interchangeable between most (if not all) the letter series, and mismatches are pretty common. There is a document on the web by Ken Corwin that lists the history and differences between the variants. It would be a good starting point to try to determine the variant you have. http://www.nj7p.org/history/bc-348.html Hope this helps Jack Antonio WA7DIA scr287@sbcglobal.net Wilson Lamb wrote: > SO, could mine be in the wrong case? ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "David Stinson" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Old Philco Plastic Alignment Tool Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 21:07:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Philco had a special alignment tool. It was all-plastic, with a 1/4 hex "nut-driver" end. Straight, hard plastic with flat-faced 1/4 socket on each end. Once, you could get them from tubesandmore.com, but they don't list it anymore. I need on to do neutralization on a mil rig. Does anyone know a good source? Thanks. Dave S. ------------------------------ End of BOATANCHORS Digest 4311 ******************************