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Mon Feb 15 07:21:28 2010 -0600 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:21:23 CST From: Old Tube Radios To: Old Tube Radios Subject: BOATANCHORS digest 4316 Message-Id: <20100215132124.446FC29FC50@minime.theporch.com> BOATANCHORS Digest 4316 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Transformer needed for adjustable HV supply. by "Singley, Rodger" 2) Re: Prewar Transmitter by rdavis7@comcast.net 3) Re: Transformer needed for adjustable HV supply. by "David Stinson" 4) RE: Transformer needed for adjustable HV supply. by "Singley, Rodger" 5) Re: Prewar Transmitter by Al Klase 6) Requst for Info: AN/ARC, -ARR, -ART Sets by "David Stinson" 7) Re: Prewar Transmitter by w8au@sssnet.com 8) Re: Transformer needed for adjustable HV supply. by "Arden Allen" 9) RE: Transformer needed for adjustable HV supply. by "Bill Hawkins" 10) Re: Prewar Transmitter by wa1kbq@aol.com 11) Re: Loran-C Saved? by Roy Morgan 12) Re: Loran-C Saved? by "David Stinson" 13) Re: Loran-C Saved? by Jerry Proc 14) Re: Loran-C Saved? by Jerry Proc ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: Transformer needed for adjustable HV supply. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:01:40 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Singley, Rodger" To: Old Tube Radios Careful, most of the travel converters are designed for heating loads = and universal motors but will destroy transformers. They do not provide = anything close to a sine wave output. The "dual" ones often have a 50 or 100 watt rating for electronic = appliances and will supply a transformer supply but only at a reduced = wattage rating. But I agree with Dave, it is going to be much easier to find room for a = small step-up transformer and I bought an inexpensive one on ebay from = Henry Radio to power my Chinese tube type receiver. Rodger WQ9E -----Original Message----- From: owner-boatanchors@theporch.com on behalf of David Stinson Sent: Sun 2/14/2010 11:51 AM To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Transformer needed for adjustable HV supply. =20 "Electronic/computer/appliance" stores sell power converters that people going to Europe (220 VAC mains) use for their stuff. A 1000 watt unit is only $16. Your time is worth more than that. Here's a link to some at Fry's: http://www.frys.com/product/1769535?site=3Dsr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG http://www.frys.com/product/2508451?site=3Dsr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG http://www.frys.com/product/1769524?site=3Dsr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG Aside: Back-feeding the transformer types with 110 vac might make a nice B+ transformer for a receiver. 73 Dave S. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Tom Norris" To: "Old Tube Radios" Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:55 AM Subject: Transformer needed for adjustable HV supply. I have this decent, but not currently usable classroom-type HV supply = I'd=20 like to get up and running. It's a very light-weight 70's vintage "Lock=20 Science" UK thingie. I found out why it was a gimme! 220 v primary = only.=20 Would be less expensive to simply replace the original tranny with = another=20 than have a step-up transformer taking up room in my already cramped = work=20 area. I doubt I'll find a replacement transformer as a single unit, but I am=20 looking for something with 120 vac input with the following outputs -- = 2=20 each 6.3 at 2A, single ended 300V at 120mA, and 50V CT 80 mils for bias. = "Close Enough" is fine, it can have any number of filament windings, = even=20 one will do, with 5 vAC for the second. HV may be single ended or CT, = bias=20 can be anything -- would prefer *more* than 50 volts, actually. The = kicker=20 is the original fits in a 5x5 inch space. A generic replacement will = give=20 me most of the voltages, probably less the bias. Still room for it in = the=20 case. Probably room for a second HV source as well (thinking separate = screen=20 supply) When all is said and done, I may end up modding the B+ to take a = regulator,=20 particularly if I add an additional screen output. Plenty room for = (gasp)=20 solid-state devices. I wish I hadn't gotten rid of the majority of my junk-box items or I'd=20 probably *have* a replacement. Thanks for any help! Tom NU4G=20 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:07:20 +0000 (UTC) From: rdavis7@comcast.net To: Old Tube Radios Cc: boATANCHORS@theporch.com Message-ID: <1223942689.3831101266170840013.JavaMail.root@sz0164a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: Prewar Transmitter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_204646_289675637.1266170840012" ------=_Part_204646_289675637.1266170840012 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe try a Lysco 600, it has integral vfo, cw only rig unless you have the outboard modulator which was produced. I have two of the transmitters but only 1 modulator. Small lightweight unit, well built. Rick K8PJQ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilson Lamb" To: "Old Tube Radios" Cc: boATANCHORS@theporch.com Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:21:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Prewar Transmitter I'm looking for a prewar transmitter to be roughly age compatible with my Comet Pro. I know about Leeds, Gross, Thordarson, but they are all crystal controlled, I think. I also know about the Signal Shifter and Variarm VFO. Is there a more powerful, 20+Watts, rig with integral VFO for which I could be looking. 73, Wilson W4BOH ------=_Part_204646_289675637.1266170840012 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------=_Part_204646_289675637.1266170840012-- ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "David Stinson" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Transformer needed for adjustable HV supply. Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:08:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Singley, Rodger" Careful, most of the travel converters are designed for heating loads and universal motors but will destroy transformers. They do not provide anything close to a sine wave output. -------------------------- You're right on, but there are some "transformer" types around. I think those two 50-watt examples are transformer. I didn't look up the specs on the 1000 watt job, but you're probably right about that one. If Fry's has 50-watters, somebody has bigger ones somewhere. ------------------------------ Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: Transformer needed for adjustable HV supply. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:07:50 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Singley, Rodger" To: Old Tube Radios Also, these low cost types will only reduce the voltage but cannot = increase the voltage because they don't use a transformer. The dual = power rating types contain a small transformer to handle electronic type = applications and they could step up or down but only provide a very = limited power capability. The travel converters do a good job for their intended purpose and they = are light but even a hypersil type step up/down transformer of any = reasonable current capability is going to weigh more than most people = would want to carry in their purse or briefcase. Rodger WQ9E -----Original Message----- From: owner-boatanchors@theporch.com on behalf of Singley, Rodger Sent: Sun 2/14/2010 12:01 PM To: Old Tube Radios Subject: RE: Transformer needed for adjustable HV supply. =20 Careful, most of the travel converters are designed for heating loads = and universal motors but will destroy transformers. They do not provide = anything close to a sine wave output. The "dual" ones often have a 50 or 100 watt rating for electronic = appliances and will supply a transformer supply but only at a reduced = wattage rating. But I agree with Dave, it is going to be much easier to find room for a = small step-up transformer and I bought an inexpensive one on ebay from = Henry Radio to power my Chinese tube type receiver. Rodger WQ9E -----Original Message----- From: owner-boatanchors@theporch.com on behalf of David Stinson Sent: Sun 2/14/2010 11:51 AM To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Transformer needed for adjustable HV supply. =20 "Electronic/computer/appliance" stores sell power converters that people going to Europe (220 VAC mains) use for their stuff. A 1000 watt unit is only $16. Your time is worth more than that. Here's a link to some at Fry's: http://www.frys.com/product/1769535?site=3Dsr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG http://www.frys.com/product/2508451?site=3Dsr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG http://www.frys.com/product/1769524?site=3Dsr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG Aside: Back-feeding the transformer types with 110 vac might make a nice B+ transformer for a receiver. 73 Dave S. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Tom Norris" To: "Old Tube Radios" Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:55 AM Subject: Transformer needed for adjustable HV supply. I have this decent, but not currently usable classroom-type HV supply = I'd=20 like to get up and running. It's a very light-weight 70's vintage "Lock=20 Science" UK thingie. I found out why it was a gimme! 220 v primary = only.=20 Would be less expensive to simply replace the original tranny with = another=20 than have a step-up transformer taking up room in my already cramped = work=20 area. I doubt I'll find a replacement transformer as a single unit, but I am=20 looking for something with 120 vac input with the following outputs -- = 2=20 each 6.3 at 2A, single ended 300V at 120mA, and 50V CT 80 mils for bias. = "Close Enough" is fine, it can have any number of filament windings, = even=20 one will do, with 5 vAC for the second. HV may be single ended or CT, = bias=20 can be anything -- would prefer *more* than 50 volts, actually. The = kicker=20 is the original fits in a 5x5 inch space. A generic replacement will = give=20 me most of the voltages, probably less the bias. Still room for it in = the=20 case. Probably room for a second HV source as well (thinking separate = screen=20 supply) When all is said and done, I may end up modding the B+ to take a = regulator,=20 particularly if I add an additional screen output. Plenty room for = (gasp)=20 solid-state devices. I wish I hadn't gotten rid of the majority of my junk-box items or I'd=20 probably *have* a replacement. Thanks for any help! Tom NU4G=20 ------------------------------ Message-id: <4B7830AC.2040400@ar88.net> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:19:40 -0500 From: Al Klase MIME-version: 1.0 To: Old Tube Radios Cc: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Prewar Transmitter Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=------------040303090307050708000901 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040303090307050708000901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wilson, In the Comet-Pro era, the vast majority of transmitters were homebrew. Al On 2/14/2010 10:21 AM, Wilson Lamb wrote: > I'm looking for a prewar transmitter to be roughly age compatible with > my Comet Pro. > I know about Leeds, Gross, Thordarson, but they are all crystal > controlled, I think. > I also know about the Signal Shifter and Variarm VFO. > Is there a more powerful, 20+Watts, rig with integral VFO for which I > could be looking. > 73, > Wilson > W4BOH -- Al Klase - N3FRQ Jersey City, NJ http://www.skywaves.ar88.net/ --------------040303090307050708000901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --------------040303090307050708000901-- ------------------------------ Message-ID: <03EF11261DC8455BA9A557071888B96A@boudreaux> From: "David Stinson" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Requst for Info: AN/ARC, -ARR, -ART Sets Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:04:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need your help. Getting serious about this reference data. I'm seeking information about the following AN/ARC-x sets. I'd be grateful for photos or transcripts of any nomenclature plate data and/or clear, readable photos. And I'd give you credit for the reference: AN/ARC-1 Any contracts other than NXsa-31225 1943 Western Electric Co. NXsa-55620 ???? Western Electric Co. AN/ARC-1A Any contracts other than NXsa-96346 1945 Western Electric Co. AN/ARC-1X or -1AX Made by Western Electric. An ARC-1 powered from 115 VAC. ++++++++++++++++++++ AN/ARC-2, any nomenclature/contracts other than: Contract Year Manufacturer Quantity ------------------- ---- ----------------- -------- NXsa-90807 1945 Collins Radio Co. ??? NOas-10216 1946 Collins Radio Co. ??? NOas-11025 1946 Collins Radio Co. ??? NOas-51-245 1951 Collins Radio Co. ??? NOas-51-271a 1951 Collins Radio Co. ??? NOas-51-688f 1951 Collins Radio Co. ??? NOas-52-918 1952 Collins Radio Co. 1199 AN/ARC-2A Contract Year Manufacturer Quantity ------------------- ---- ----------------- -------- NOas-52-918 1952 Collins Radio Co. 1200-2268 NOas-53-405 1953 Collins Radio Co. ??? ++++++++++++++++++ AN/ARC-3 Any nomenclature/contract information other than: R-52-1866-SC-21 1952 Sylvania Electric Products AF33(600)-25777 SA#4 Especially seeking early, WWII contracts. +++++++++++++++++ AN/ARC-4, -4A, -4X Any nomenclature/contract info. ++++++++++++++++ AN/ARC-12 Any nomenclature/contract info. +++++++++++++++ AN/ARC-13 Collins UHF set 100-400 MC Any nomenclature/contract info. ++++++++++++++ AN/ARC-18, -18XN Western Electric "repeater" set. Any nomenclature/contract info. +++++++++++++++ AN/ARR-14 Collins, Any nomenclature/contract info. +++++++++++++++ AN/ARR-15 Collins Any nomenclature/contract info. +++++++++++++++ AN/ARR-17 and AN/ART-18 Repeater. Any nomenclature/contract info. ++++++++++++++ AN/ART-13: T-47, T-47A, T-47B (not ATC - will get to that later) Any nomenclature/contract info. ++++++++++++++ Thanks, ya'll. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:06:31 -0500 To: Old Tube Radios From: w8au@sssnet.com Subject: Re: Prewar Transmitter Cc: boATANCHORS@theporch.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20100214211318.2FCE82945C6@minime.theporch.com> At 01:07 PM 2/14/2010, rdavis7@comcast.net wrote: >Maybe try a Lysco 600, it has integral vfo, cw only rig unless you >have the outboard modulator which was produced. I have two of the >transmitters but only 1 modulator. Small lightweight unit, well >built. Rick K8PJQ Lysco production started 1950. (pre-Korean War) :-) Perry w8au ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001d01caadd1$97bc7180$5e9e480c@KB6NAX> From: "Arden Allen" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Transformer needed for adjustable HV supply. Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:58:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit An inexpensive way of obtaining 240 volts to drive the power supply is to obtain a "control" transformer with dual 120 volt windings, the kind that can be configured for 120 or 240 volt operation. Use one of the 120 windings as a secondary in series with the line input 120 volts to get 240 volts for the power supply. Allied, Mouser, etc. stock control transformers. Arden Allen KB6NAX Adopt a shelter dog, save an innocent life, and make a friend forever =:-) ------------------------------ From: "Bill Hawkins" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: RE: Transformer needed for adjustable HV supply. Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 17:49:41 -0600 Message-ID: <4D92F65E72B84BFE80312297345C6472@cyrus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, Tom How about buying a replacement 220 V cord for a small air conditioner or other appliance. Shouldn't be too difficult to install a 220 V outlet for it from two different 120 volt phases in the house. You'll need two line fuses in the HV primary, of course. The rest of the world works with 220, and they aren't dying off from that nearly fast enough to make a difference. You're even safer, because it's only 120 V to ground. Besides, it'll make you feel like a world-class citizen. "Oh yes, I've got several pieces of 220 V equipment. Don't you?" Hope that helps. Bill Hawkins -----Original Message----- From: owner-boatanchors@theporch.com [mailto:owner-boatanchors@theporch.com] On Behalf Of Tom Norris Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:55 AM To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Transformer needed for adjustable HV supply. I have this decent, but not currently usable classroom-type HV supply I'd like to get up and running. It's a very light-weight 70's vintage "Lock Science" UK thingie. I found out why it was a gimme! 220 v primary only. Would be less expensive to simply replace the original tranny with another than have a step-up transformer taking up room in my already cramped work area. I doubt I'll find a replacement transformer as a single unit, but I am looking for something with 120 vac input with the following outputs -- 2 each 6.3 at 2A, single ended 300V at 120mA, and 50V CT 80 mils for bias. "Close Enough" is fine, it can have any number of filament windings, even one will do, with 5 vAC for the second. HV may be single ended or CT, bias can be anything -- would prefer *more* than 50 volts, actually. The kicker is the original fits in a 5x5 inch space. A generic replacement will give me most of the voltages, probably less the bias. Still room for it in the case. Probably room for a second HV source as well (thinking separate screen supply) When all is said and done, I may end up modding the B+ to take a regulator, particularly if I add an additional screen output. Plenty room for (gasp) solid-state devices. I wish I hadn't gotten rid of the majority of my junk-box items or I'd probably *have* a replacement. Thanks for any help! Tom NU4G ------------------------------ To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Prewar Transmitter Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:09:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: wa1kbq@aol.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CC7BF29A84D291_8D6C_3B217_webmail-m009.sysops.aol.com" Message-Id: <8CC7BF29A7B4D11-8D6C-1DC3E@webmail-m009.sysops.aol.com> ----------MB_8CC7BF29A84D291_8D6C_3B217_webmail-m009.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Truncated again... * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * This post contains a forbidden message format * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * If your postings display this message your mail program * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -----Original Message----- From: Al Klase To: Old Tube Radios Cc: Old Tube Radios Sent: Sun, Feb 14, 2010 12:19 pm Subject: Re: Prewar Transmitter * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * This post contains a forbidden message format * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * If your postings display this message your mail program * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ----------MB_8CC7BF29A84D291_8D6C_3B217_webmail-m009.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ----------MB_8CC7BF29A84D291_8D6C_3B217_webmail-m009.sysops.aol.com-- ------------------------------ Cc: Old Tube Radios Message-Id: <3BB9371D-A991-47BA-BD27-61823C0132F9@earthlink.net> From: Roy Morgan To: Old Tube Radios Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Loran-C Saved? Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:46:31 -0500 On Feb 14, 2010, at 3:27 AM, Tom Norris wrote: > More satire than hoax the way I read it - a lot of folks, from labs > that can't afford a GPS or Cesium standard, to nav users to many of > us are a bit miffed at Loran's termination. But, time marches on, > things progress - in this case it didn't HAVE to. The Loaran web site for the station on that remote island (part of Norway) says that Norway intends to keep their set of 5 (?) stations operating indefinitely, and in fact there's a contract out to begin a major upgrade/enhancement to the systems around Europe. Roy Roy Morgan k1lky@earthlink.net 529 Cobb St. Groton NY, 13073 Home: 607-898-3607 Cell: 301-928-7794 ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "David Stinson" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Loran-C Saved? Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:51:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I guess I'm in the minority. As a long-time 1750 meter op, Loran-C has always been a pain in my neck. I say "So long! Farewell! Adios'!" and "don't let the door... etc." ;-) 73 D.S. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <58733.40197.qm@web112317.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:07:13 -0800 (PST) From: Jerry Proc Subject: Re: Loran-C Saved? To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi David, Loran-C operated on 100 KHz and that's the one that's shutting down. Loran-A, its predecessor is the one that shared the 160 Meter band but that= system was shut down in 1980. -- Regards, Jerry Proc E-mail: jerry7proc@yahoo.com --- On Sun, 2/14/10, David Stinson wrote: > From: David Stinson > Subject: Re: Loran-C Saved? > To: "Old Tube Radios" > Received: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 8:51 PM > I guess I'm in the minority.=A0 As > a long-time 1750 meter op, > Loran-C has always been a pain in my neck. > I say "So long!=A0 Farewell!=A0 Adios'!" and "don't > let the door... etc." ;-) >=20 > 73 D.S. >=20 > =0A=0A=0A __________________________________________________________= ________=0AReclaim your name @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com. Get your new em= ail address now! Go to http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/jacko/ ------------------------------ Message-ID: <43653.93734.qm@web112313.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:21:16 -0800 (PST) From: Jerry Proc Subject: Re: Loran-C Saved? To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Roy, I am gathering worldwide status on the closue and adding it a document whic= h I have posted to: http://jproc.ca/hyperbolic/loran_c_closure.html >From what I've read, the entire US system has not shut down. A residual par= t of it will be closing in the fall of 2010. In Canada, it looks like we ar= e shutting down in Oct 2010.=20 Can you pass me the URL for the Norway status and I will add that to the do= cument?=20 =20 -- Regards, Jerry Proc E-mail: jerry7proc@yahoo.com --- On Sun, 2/14/10, Roy Morgan wrote: > From: Roy Morgan > Subject: Re: Loran-C Saved? > To: "Old Tube Radios" > Cc: "Old Tube Radios" > Received: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 8:46 PM >=20 > On Feb 14, 2010, at 3:27 AM, Tom Norris wrote: >=20 > > More satire than hoax the way I read it - a lot of > folks, from labs that can't afford a GPS or Cesium standard, > to nav users to many of us are a bit miffed at Loran's > termination.=A0 But, time marches on, things progress - > in this case it didn't HAVE to. >=20 > The Loaran web site for the station on that remote island > (part of Norway) says that Norway intends to keep their set > of 5 (?) stations operating indefinitely, and in fact > there's a contract out to begin a major upgrade/enhancement > to the systems around Europe. >=20 > Roy >=20 >=20 > Roy Morgan > k1lky@earthlink.net > 529 Cobb St. > Groton NY, 13073 > Home: 607-898-3607 > Cell: 301-928-7794 >=20 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A __________________________________________________________= ________=0ALooking for the perfect gift? 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