Article: 95539 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Message-ID: <43A6D611.D7952AD4@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Unusual functions of cheap parts References: <4385b3b1$1$27887$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <43a5c7b1$1_1@news.bluewin.ch> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:47:41 GMT Winfield Hill wrote: > > Rolf_B wrote... > > > > Very interesting. The 1N4007 seem to be very versatile devices. > > They are available with a SOD-57 glass envelope, too (1N4007G?). > > These are fairly well photoconductive. When illuminated ... > > While many companies* are making 1n4007G glass-passivated diodes, > it appears they all cover the glass with plastic. I wonder... > where one can get a 1n4007 with an all-glass package these days? > > * Including unusual semiconductor manufacturers, like: Won-Top, > Bytesonic, Leshan Radio, Formosa Microsemi, Gulf Semiconductor, > Dachang Electronic, Goodwork Semiconductor, etc. > > > > -- > Thanks, > - Win How many do you need, and can you use ones pulled from PC boards? I may have some left that I pulled from damaged boards. -- Been there, Done that, I've got my DD214 to prove it. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 95540 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Bill Turner Subject: Re: AM to FM? Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 08:12:32 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1134948617.340619.13790@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8616d$43a61077$4232bdda$15903@COQUI.NET> <1134960601.518977.267550@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> ORIGINAL MESSAGE: On 18 Dec 2005 18:50:01 -0800, yzordderrex@verizon.net wrote: >There are guys out there that will take your radio and stick new guts >in it. You end up with a radio that looks completely stock 1969 >Porsche, but performs like a brand new Mark Levinson. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Travesty. Please preserve the radio in its original condition. FM radios are common as dirt but a 1969 Blaupunkt is a collector's item. Bill T. Article: 95541 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Asimov" Subject: Re: Unusual functions of cheap parts Message-ID: References: Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:11:06 GMT "mroberds@worldnet.att.net" bravely wrote to "All" (19 Dec 05 07:25:41) --- on the heady topic of "Re: Unusual functions of cheap parts" mr> From: mroberds@worldnet.att.net mr> Xref: core-easynews de.sci.electronics:311430 mr> rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:89926 sci.electronics.components:104476 mr> sci.electronics.design:532313 mr> In sci.electronics.components Winfield Hill mr> wrote: >Rolf_B wrote... >> [1N4007] are available with a SOD-57 glass envelope, too (1N4007G?). >> These are fairly well photoconductive. > > While many companies* are making 1n4007G glass-passivated diodes, > it appears they all cover the glass with plastic. I wonder... > where one can get a 1n4007 with an all-glass package these days? mr> I've got a few 1N4003 and 1N4004 diodes with all-glass packages but mr> I'm not sure how recent they are. They have the (older?) Fairchild mr> logo of an italicized "F" with the middle stroke extending on both mr> sides of the vertical. I'm about 90% sure these came in one of those mr> "20 rectifiers for $2" packages from Rat Shock, so who knows how old mr> they really are. The bodies are about 2.5 mm diameter by 4 mm long. mr> Inside the glass, the ends near the leads are orange, with a clear mr> strip less than 0.5 mm wide near the middle. mr> Testing them with the "diode check" on a $40 multimeter and either a mr> 40 watt clear globe lamp or a TV remote control doesn't show much mr> photoconductivity, but I suspect I would need to look a little harder mr> than this to see it. mr> Matt Roberds Germanium diodes like a 1N34 in glass case are quite light sensitive. Some LED's are too and IR emitter LED's are quite sensitive to IR. A*s*i*m*o*v Article: 95542 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "xpyttl" References: <1134948617.340619.13790@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8616d$43a61077$4232bdda$15903@COQUI.NET> <1134960601.518977.267550@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135015401.585089.292550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: AM to FM? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:51:18 -0500 There is quite a large market for Porsche parts, even for older cars. There is also quite a wide range of prices so it pays to look around. I had the radio die in my '98 Boxster. It looked to be about $500 to repair it, and a replacement was over $1200, over 700 for a rebuilt radio. Now, it was a nice radio, but $1200!! After much hand wringing and looking around I finally found a speed shop halfway across the country that had a rebuilt radio for around $200. There are literally hundreds of Porsche blogs and mod sites on the net; many of these can provide leads. Don't forget the obvious Porsche suppliers and, of course, eBay. Even if they don't directly have what you want, often they can provide clues. Back then those radios weren't that great, and a LOT of people yanked them in favor of radios with cassette players or, later, CD's. Porsches tend to be driven for a LONG time. So the odds of finding a replacement for a decent price might be pretty good. Heck, I may have one of about that vintage lying around here. Not much chance of ever finding it in this shack, though! As far as making a converter, I don't hold it to be quite as tough as some of the other posters have indicated, but it could be a real barrier if you aren't already a homebrewer. The fact that you are posting to a ham radio newsgroup leads me to suspect you might not be a total innocent around a soldering iron. There are a number of chips, NE612, 614, 615, that contain a large fraction of an FM reciever. If you only want one station, it is actually pretty simple. Building a high frequency VFO, though, is a bit of a challenge. Modern synthesizer chips can greatly ease that, but they are all little bitty surface mount parts, and you gotta program a computer chip to drive them. Really not all that insurmountable, but it's not an afternoon project, either! Might not be such a bad plan to run down to Best Buy or whatever and get a cheap replacement; pretty good radios are cheap enough that it could be temporary. Then you have tunes while you are getting the real radio fixed. .. wrote in message news:1135015401.585089.292550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >I TOTALLY AGREE!!! I will do NOTHING to deprive the originality of the > car. I was just curious as to my situation. Don't worry! > Article: 95543 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Spike Subject: Re: Pepper And Salt (Seasoned Greetings) to all our readers - the Xmas FAQ Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:42:04 +0000 Message-ID: <776eq1dlo9p41kl70v9j7pq6np5qq4jllc@4ax.com> References: <1134752578.139108.150450@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1134824498.223987.230200@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4gYof.33615$Cj5.25484@newsfe6-win.ntli.net> <1134846819.893201.322730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1134850466.995920.154550@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43A71623.4030200@w2agn.net> John L. Sielke wrote: >Pierian Spring of Very Dull Water wrote: > > > >and the baying hounds replied: > > > > >What amazes me is that every time this "faq" is sent to the newsgroups, the same >idiots respond to it, and get into a flame war. When it dies down, it only >requires the repeat of the same message to get the same idiots stirred up again. > >Sort of a Pavlovian response. I guess for some, it might be fun to watch dumb >animals drool. Maybe it's a UK thing...... The thing you need to bear in mind is that of the current 55 messages in that thread, no less than 23 - not far short of half of the total - were in fact posted by the OP. Some of these involve him posting - or barking - replies to himself. I wasn't aware that Pavlov had trained his dogs to drool at their own barking. But the chap concerned claims a qualification in psychology, so perhaps he could name this phenomenon for us. from Aero Spike Article: 95544 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "KØHB" References: <1134752578.139108.150450@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: One of the Chosen speaks (the same old repetitive drivel) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:53:06 GMT "Pierian Spring" wrote >A number of potential recruits are in great danger of being > misled into thinking that they are Radio Hams when, in fact, > they are nothing of the kind! As it is the season of goodwill, > let us show our goodwill by saving these poor deluded fools > from the mischievous ne-er-do-wells who will attempt to > mislead them. (Radio Hams are technically-motivated people > and not merely turnip-brained button pushers like CBers and > like M3/CBers) The Wise Ones live in the depths of the D, E, and F-Layers, and in the servers at Yahoogroups.com. They are the descendants of the Gods. I personally subscribe to the theory they are the children of Thor Heyerdahl, the Viking god of Thunder and Balsawood Raft Dxpeditions. But that's another story. The Wise Ones criticize everything that happens on the air and on this list, but they can't police every pileup or every Yahoogroup by themselves, so every morning, just before daylight over Katmandu, the Wise Ones select the "Mostest Intellegentest Ham Ever" in their layer and convey upon him the title INFLICTOR OF HIGHER MORAL HARANGUES. This title and its duties last until the following dawn on Bouvet, if someone is there to observe the sunrise. Otherwise your duties end when Riley Hollingsworth gets tired of your crap and sends his lawyers with a gag order. If you are ever chosen you will know because a representative of the Wise Ones will anoint your temples with oil from a forty year old bottle of Dr. Guano, collected on Ocean Island by VR1L in 1963. For that day you will be known as The Chosen. Your duties will be to seek out those that don't do things the way you do them (in other words, the right way.) When you find them, it will be your duty to correct them. Think about all the ills of ham radio that you can police .....too wide, too weak, too slow, too fast, what's your call dammit, wrong VFO, rotten fist, QRQ, QRS, poor pileup control, wrong band, wrong QSL route, you timed out the repeater, wrong lingo, not enough green stamps, you're in the DX window, no-coders not allowed, coders suck, .... these and many other sins are all your to root out and expose!!! When you find these wayward ones, you will lumber onto their frequency, stand up in your operating chair and shout, I AM A BETTER HAM THAN YOU, SHUT UP AND LISTEN. You will now have the wayward one's undivided attention. He will think about this very briefly, then yield to your superior intellect and ham skill. He will be very receptive to your thoughts and point of view. Lecture him and proceed to the next wrong doer. Now for the sad part of this tale. There are pretenders and charlatans out there who try to usurp the rightful powers of The Chosen. To you villainous few, I say beware. The Wise Ones also created BAWA (Baddest Ass Whats Around). No matter how bad you are, BAWA has the ability to be badder. You will know when you start your lecture and Bawa yells back, "You're a jerk, but I'm a bigger one. LET'S ESCALATE". And you will have no choice. But soon BAWA will tire of you and sink your little balsa boat. As you slip under the surface you will yell, "BUT I WAS RIGHT, DAMMIT" and you will once again prove the ancient mariners axiom -- AN OPEN MOUTH TAKES ON WATER. dit dit de Hans, K0HB -- ><{{{{*> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~k0hb By the way, what disease DID cured hams actually have before they were cured? Article: 95545 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "KØHB" References: <1134752578.139108.150450@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135025973.570506.283140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: One of the Chosen speaks (the same old repetitive drivel) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 21:05:33 GMT "Pierian Spring" wrote > Hans, > You've missed the point which is ...... Sorry, Anonymous Old Sod, but since you made no point, there was no point to miss. 73, de Hans, K0HB -- Hamming for almost a half-century, and it just keeps getting better. Article: 95547 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Asimov" Subject: Re: AM to FM? Message-ID: References: <1135027407.213367.307090@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 01:01:35 GMT "packerfan6000@yahoo.com" bravely wrote to "All" (19 Dec 05 13:23:27) --- on the heady topic of "Re: AM to FM?" pa> From: packerfan6000@yahoo.com pa> Xref: core-easynews rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:89949 pa> When you say "keeping it to one station"... do you mean the AM or the pa> FM?... I want to be able to change the AM, but if I have to keep the pa> Blaupunkt at one frequency to receive the signal from the converter, I pa> wouldn't mind at all. There used to be all transistor converters like that back when. Now that I think of it there might even be one in the garage here. I'm not sure though, but the last time I was clearing room for the car I vaguely recall coming across such an FM converter on a shelf. Would it be something you might want if it works? A*s*i*m*o*v ... I can't remember the last time I forgot something. Article: 95548 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Jeffrey Bauman" Subject: FA: Nice Homebrew SSB / CW Transmitter - 80, 40, 20 meters Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 04:08:16 GMT Quite a rig. Please see my auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/Beautiful-Homebrew-SSB-CW-Transmitter-80-40-20-M_W0QQitemZ5844101224QQcategoryZ4675QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ...or try auction # 5844101224 Thanks! Jeff W8KZW Near Detroit Article: 95549 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 01:46:04 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: FA: Nice Homebrew SSB / CW Transmitter - 80, 40, 20 meters References: Message-ID: <1d368$43a79a9d$4232bd5c$3905@COQUI.NET> Jeffrey Bauman wrote: > Quite a rig. Indeed! -Bill Article: 95550 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Chaney" References: <1134752578.139108.150450@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135025973.570506.283140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: One of the Chosen speaks (the same old repetitive drivel) Message-ID: <3BRpf.1321$vl2.807@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 11:06:39 GMT Are there no Yank NG's you could be haunting!!!...we're British...we take our ghosts with a pinch of salt... -- Chaney Chaney's World www.chaney.i12.com "KØHB" wrote in message news:xgFpf.3977$mj1.3470@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > > "Pierian Spring" wrote > >> Hans, >> You've missed the point which is ...... > > Sorry, Anonymous Old Sod, but since you made no point, there was no point > to miss. > > 73, de Hans, K0HB > -- > Hamming for almost a half-century, and it just keeps getting better. > > > > Article: 95551 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Keith Williams Subject: Re: What Does Your Electronics Workshop Look Like? Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:07:03 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1134520239.071671.96720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1134534650.642653.280610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <439FA234.396EE28E@earthlink.net> <1135056571.904887.304180@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In article <1135056571.904887.304180@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, too_many_tools@yahoo.com says... > "Finally gave away my last old AkroMills metal cabinet (50 drawer) to > new > amateur earlier this year." > > Does anyone make a METAL cabinet anymore like the older Akromills ones? Stanley Vidmar makes metal storage cabinets. They're rather pricey though. http://www.stanleyvidmar.com/default.asp?TYPE=STATIC&PAGE=HOME.HTM -- Keith Article: 95552 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Asimov" Subject: Re: AM to FM? Message-ID: References: Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:11:07 GMT "Gary Schafer" bravely wrote to "All" (19 Dec 05 18:57:06) --- on the heady topic of "Re: AM to FM?" GS> From: Gary Schafer GS> Xref: core-easynews rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:89952 GS> On 19 Dec 2005 13:23:27 -0800, packerfan6000@yahoo.com wrote: >When you say "keeping it to one station"... do you mean the AM or the >FM?... I want to be able to change the AM, but if I have to keep the >Blaupunkt at one frequency to receive the signal from the converter, I >wouldn't mind at all. GS> Seeing as how you are a "packer fan" I may have just what you are GS> looking for. I have one of those FM to AM converters. Got it sometime GS> in the 70's. It is a very small box about 3/4 inch high by about 4 x 6 GS> inches. Used it in a car that came with only an AM radio. Just plugs GS> into the antenna jack and the car antenna plugs into it. Needs to also GS> hook to 12 volt power. Push the button and it switches the converter GS> in line. Set a push button on the am radio the the output frequency of GS> the converter and tune in your FM station with the knob on the GS> converter. It is mono FM though. No stereo. Works great. Email me at GS> garyschafer@comcast.net if interested. I found the converter box in the garage shelf I had mentioned. However it turned out to be an 8-track converter. Remember 8-track?! WOW! A*s*i*m*o*v ... I cut it three times already and it's still too short! Article: 95553 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Subject: Re: What Does Your Electronics Workshop Look Like? Date: 20 Dec 2005 11:24:13 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1134520239.071671.96720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <439FA234.396EE28E@earthlink.net> <1135056571.904887.304180@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Too_Many_Tools wrote: >"Finally gave away my last old AkroMills metal cabinet (50 drawer) to >new >amateur earlier this year." > >Does anyone make a METAL cabinet anymore like the older Akromills ones? I think Akro-Mills still does, but they don't sell them through consumer outlets. Try Applied Industrial Technology (ie. Maintenance America). --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Article: 95555 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Henry Kiefer" References: <1134922656.246374.46970@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: BF964S noise - alternatives?? Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 00:27:31 +0100 Message-ID: <43a895eb$1$16503$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> Is that galactic noise measured on a wide bandwidth antenna? What if it is very narrow band? regards - Henry "K7ITM" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:1134922656.246374.46970@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > I'm curious, what sorts of things do amateurs do that really need > better than a 1dB noise figure on 2 meters? I can understand it on > higher frequencies, but I'd have thought that galactic noise, at least, > would be a limiting factor on 2 meters. > > Looking to be educated, > > Tom > Article: 95556 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Henry Kiefer" References: <4385b3b1$1$27887$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <43a5c7b1$1_1@news.bluewin.ch> <1bjbq19ncb6bmkrb4v9n85687s3ro2btcc@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Unusual functions of cheap parts Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 00:31:35 +0100 Message-ID: <43a895ec$0$16503$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> I thought optical triggered GTOs were still in business?? regards - Henry "John Larkin" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:1bjbq19ncb6bmkrb4v9n85687s3ro2btcc@4ax.com... > On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:33:52 +0100, Rolf_B > wrote: > > >John Larkin wrote: > >> > >> A 1N4007 can also be used as a drift step-recovery diode and as a > >> plasma avalanche diode. Together, two can generate a kilovolt edge > >> with a 100 ps risetime. > > > >Very interesting. The 1N4007 seem to be very versatile devices. > >They are available with a SOD-57 glass envelope, too (1N4007G?). > >These are fairly well photoconductive. When illuminated by > >a high efficiency IR LED (HSDL-4230 or so) current transfer > >ratios of 0.001 can be achieved. Not too much, but with > >two LEDs 100uA of photocurrent is obtainable. This is OK for > >a pass element in an "electrostatic" power supply for e.g. > >electron or ion lens systems. > > A high-voltage optocoupler; cool. > > I've posted a schematic for a hv opamp (400 v p-p) that uses two > optoisolators as the output push-pull stage... it's very cheap and > simple. A higher-voltage photodetector, like a glass power diode, > sounds useful, too. > > I worked once with a company in Southern California that had a neat > gadget: it was a truncated cone of silicon with gold contacts on the > base and the flattened apex. It would stand off something like 5KV > until you whacked it from above with a laser, illuminating all the > sides of the cone, whence it would conduct hard. I think they went out > of business, though; it was pretty obscure. > > John > Article: 95558 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: John Larkin Subject: Re: Unusual functions of cheap parts Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 16:50:23 -0800 Message-ID: References: <4385b3b1$1$27887$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <43a5c7b1$1_1@news.bluewin.ch> <1bjbq19ncb6bmkrb4v9n85687s3ro2btcc@4ax.com> <43a895ec$0$16503$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 00:31:35 +0100, "Henry Kiefer" wrote: >I thought optical triggered GTOs were still in business?? > >regards - >Henry > Maybe so, but this wasn't a GTO, it was a bulk-effect device, blindingly fast. Can an opto-triggered GTO be turned *off* with light? John Article: 95559 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Winfield Hill Subject: Re: Unusual functions of cheap parts Date: 20 Dec 2005 17:14:23 -0800 Message-ID: References: <4385b3b1$1$27887$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <43a5c7b1$1_1@news.bluewin.ch> <43A6D611.D7952AD4@earthlink.net> Michael A. Terrell wrote... > > How many do you need, and can you use ones pulled from PC boards? > I may have some left that I pulled from damaged boards. One or two may be enough for proof-of-principle measurements. -- Thanks, - Win Article: 95560 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Message-ID: <43A8B2E0.7F7DAFC2@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Unusual functions of cheap parts References: <4385b3b1$1$27887$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <43a5c7b1$1_1@news.bluewin.ch> <43A6D611.D7952AD4@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 01:42:39 GMT Winfield Hill wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote... > > > > How many do you need, and can you use ones pulled from PC boards? > > I may have some left that I pulled from damaged boards. > > One or two may be enough for proof-of-principle measurements. > > -- > Thanks, > - Win I'll see if I can find a couple for you. -- Been there, Done that, I've got my DD214 to prove it. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 95561 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Joerg Subject: Re: Unusual functions of cheap parts References: <4385b3b1$1$27887$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 01:42:16 GMT Hello Henry, > > Do you know of other interesting devices or circuits good for misuse? > Six sawed off pieces of the pole of a busted market umbrella allowed me to move a 1/2ton piece of furniture all by myself. Oh wait, wrong category.... Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com Article: 95562 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Jim Thompson Subject: Re: Unusual functions of cheap parts Message-ID: <22dhq1h62jj51unhlqqt1ftklkoll52ldd@4ax.com> References: <4385b3b1$1$27887$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 18:48:20 -0700 On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 01:42:16 GMT, Joerg wrote: >Hello Henry, >> >> Do you know of other interesting devices or circuits good for misuse? >> > >Six sawed off pieces of the pole of a busted market umbrella allowed me >to move a 1/2ton piece of furniture all by myself. > >Oh wait, wrong category.... > >Regards, Joerg > >http://www.analogconsultants.com I've done that with 1" oak dowel. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | "Winners never quit, quitters never win", Jack Bradley Budnik ~1956 Article: 95563 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Joerg Subject: Re: Unusual functions of cheap parts References: <4385b3b1$1$27887$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <22dhq1h62jj51unhlqqt1ftklkoll52ldd@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 01:57:43 GMT Hello Jim, > I've done that with 1" oak dowel. > But if you bought those I bet my solution was cheaper. About one cent worth of elctricity to saw it ;-) Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com Article: 95564 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Jim Thompson Subject: Re: Unusual functions of cheap parts Message-ID: References: <4385b3b1$1$27887$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <22dhq1h62jj51unhlqqt1ftklkoll52ldd@4ax.com> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:04:32 -0700 On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 01:57:43 GMT, Joerg wrote: >Hello Jim, > >> I've done that with 1" oak dowel. >> > >But if you bought those I bet my solution was cheaper. About one cent >worth of elctricity to saw it ;-) > >Regards, Joerg > >http://www.analogconsultants.com I don't know, I save all my scrap ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | "Winners never quit, quitters never win", Jack Bradley Budnik ~1956 Article: 95565 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Message-ID: <43A8E96B.88085DBB@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: What Does Your Electronics Workshop Look Like? References: <1134520239.071671.96720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 05:35:28 GMT Too_Many_Tools wrote: > > Thanks NT....I appreciate your detailed response....very helpful. > > Anyone else? > > How about arrangement of test equiptment? I have seen many benchs > overtaken by stacks of equipment with it running over on the floor. > > TMT I have several benches, with each set up a different type of work. -- Been there, Done that, I've got my DD214 to prove it. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 95566 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Roger Subject: Re: What Does Your Electronics Workshop Look Like? Message-ID: <1b1iq1pqtgj036jj9h1gjccomi6rcu22er@4ax.com> References: <1134520239.071671.96720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 02:37:31 -0500 On 13 Dec 2005 16:30:39 -0800, "Too_Many_Tools" wrote: >With the holiday season here it is time to redo the workshop and the >workbench in particular. > >So, what suggestions do you have for setting up a good efficient >workspace for electronics? > >Here's an example that I found.... > >http://www.stevenjohnson.com/workbench.htm When I worked in industry my office was never that neat. I had one computer in front of me and one to my left with nothing but papers and printouts in between. I operated both computers at the same time like a keyboard player. > >So what does your workspace, test bench and layout look like? > >Pictures and links would be great. Do you have to be able to see the surface of the bench? Mines about 20' long X 3' deep and there is very little surface showing. > >What has worked for you?...what hasn't? What worked? Let the chips fall where they may, don't more anything. What didn't? Trying to keep a neat and clean bench. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com > >Benches, racks, cabinets, tables, carts.... > >Any particular test equipment that you would recommend for or against? > >Thanks > >TMT Article: 95567 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Samuel Hunt" Subject: Re: BF964S noise - alternatives?? Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 08:06:10 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1134922656.246374.46970@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <43a895eb$1$16503$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> It's because I've got about 3dB of aerial loss and filtering loss, that I can't get rid of. But thanks for the advice on the devices, I'll take a look at them and see if they would substitute, and how I would need to modify the circuit if not. Sam Article: 95568 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Krusty" References: <1135154062.667473.109580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135155043.983039.198810@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re:FAQ What is Xmas?? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 09:04:26 GMT "Pierian Spring" wrote in message news:1135155043.983039.198810@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I don't celebrate and have withdrawn from the prezzie cycle > for some years because it's a most difficult time for alcoholics > and the time of year when one is most likely to have a "slip" > (as it is termed in AA) if one is not on one's guard all the time. > My personal reasonal reasons for celebrating Christmas is to look back and on my previous 12 months achievements, also to take time out from a busy work schedule (the aerospace industry doesn't run itself you know!!) and spend time amongst friends and family. Even exchanging gifts as a token of appreciation for being there thru the ups and downs of the past year and to look forward to whatever the future holds. A beer here, a spirit there and the odd mince pie does no harm.Indeed, a wondorous time for even the strongest disbelievers! ....and a good excused to get pissed for a week and a bit!!! Article: 95569 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Chaney" References: <1135154062.667473.109580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135155043.983039.198810@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: If the answer's, "M3", it must be a bloody silly question! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 12:02:00 GMT Drunkest!!!...no such word...I'm sure it's "most drunk"...as in "most drunk person there"... -- Chaney Chaney's World www.chaney.i12.com "Pierian Spring" wrote in message news:1135155043.983039.198810@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I don't celebrate and have withdrawn from the prezzie cycle > for some years because it's a most difficult time for alcoholics > and the time of year when one is most likely to have a "slip" > (as it is termed in AA) if one is not on one's guard all the time. > > However, as I have to find humour from within myself and not > rely on some external drug, on the occasions when I do > go to social gatherings, I am accused of being the drunkest > person present! > > So, alcoholism has one big advantage - I don't pay out loads > of shekels to give to other people loads of things they don't > really want and get in return loads of things that I don't > really want! The spare cash that I have goes to the > purchase of components that I do want! > > PS.There's a new condom on the market this Christmas, the > "Sant Claus" model. > > It's 6 foot long! > > Why? Because he only "comes" once a year, and when he > does, he fills up your stockings! > > > > Walt Davidson wrote: >> On 21 Dec 2005 00:34:22 -0800, "Pierian Spring" >> wrote: >> >> What's Santa bringing you this year, Gareth? > Article: 95570 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Mark Fergerson Subject: Re: Unusual functions of cheap parts References: <4385b3b1$1$27887$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <22dhq1h62jj51unhlqqt1ftklkoll52ldd@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:54:30 -0700 Jim Thompson wrote: > On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 01:42:16 GMT, Joerg > wrote: >>Hello Henry, >> >>>Do you know of other interesting devices or circuits good for misuse? >>Six sawed off pieces of the pole of a busted market umbrella allowed me >>to move a 1/2ton piece of furniture all by myself. >> >>Oh wait, wrong category.... > I've done that with 1" oak dowel. I've done it with sheer adrenaline (I'm 6'0", 150#) after watching three big bruisers horse around and get nowhere with an air conditioner that was IN MY FUCKING WAY!!! I stomped up, said "MOVE IT!", grabbed a corner, shoved hard and walked past. And no, I didn't so much as bend a fingernail. Mark L. Fergerson PS I once used a $150 multimeter as a non-resettable fuse, but I don't think that's what the OP had in mind... Article: 95571 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "DrBoris" References: <1135154062.667473.109580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135161078.520645.90890@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: If the answer's, "M3", it must be a bloody silly question! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:24:54 GMT wrote in message news:1135161078.520645.90890@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Walt Davidson wrote: >> What's Santa bringing you this year, Gareth? > > A fresh supply of lithium carbonate, hopefully. > More like thioridazine, chlorpromazine etc. Article: 95572 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Message-ID: <43A976C3.3B3A6762@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Unusual functions of cheap parts References: <4385b3b1$1$27887$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <22dhq1h62jj51unhlqqt1ftklkoll52ldd@4ax.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:38:47 GMT Mark Fergerson wrote: > > Jim Thompson wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 01:42:16 GMT, Joerg > > wrote: > > >>Hello Henry, > >> > >>>Do you know of other interesting devices or circuits good for misuse? > > >>Six sawed off pieces of the pole of a busted market umbrella allowed me > >>to move a 1/2ton piece of furniture all by myself. > >> > >>Oh wait, wrong category.... > > > I've done that with 1" oak dowel. > > I've done it with sheer adrenaline (I'm 6'0", 150#) after watching > three big bruisers horse around and get nowhere with an air conditioner > that was IN MY FUCKING WAY!!! I stomped up, said "MOVE IT!", grabbed a > corner, shoved hard and walked past. And no, I didn't so much as bend a > fingernail. > > Mark L. Fergerson > > PS I once used a $150 multimeter as a non-resettable fuse, but I > don't think that's what the OP had in mind... I got mad one day when i was 20 and picked up a Pontiac 389 short block. -- Been there, Done that, I've got my DD214 to prove it. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 95573 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Rich Grise Subject: Re: What Does Your Electronics Workshop Look Like? Message-ID: References: <1134520239.071671.96720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1134782992.159432.296340@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43A5D288.8030009@nospam.com> <1135149635.452648.254900@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:55:55 GMT On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:20:35 -0800, meow2222 wrote: > Fred Bloggs wrote: > >> > How about floor coverings? Ever drop a tiny screw or surface mount part >> > on the floor and spend hours looking for it? >> >> It always has to be thick insulating mats rated for 20KV, > > Though it creates static hell IME. I much prefer wood, it will insulate > personnel from anything too nasty, but without the static. (avoid > nailing wood to concrete, which conducts.) With floor insulation you > have to keep fondling the benches as you walk along, else you build up > enough static to get bit just from crossing the room. A real hallmark > of poor design imho, yet seems to be industry standard here, including > in labs working on ESD sensitive kit. http://www.google.com/search?q=%22antistatic+carpet%22 Cheers! Rich Article: 95574 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Rich Grise Subject: Re: What Does Your Electronics Workshop Look Like? Message-ID: References: <1134520239.071671.96720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1134782992.159432.296340@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43A5D288.8030009@nospam.com> <1135149635.452648.254900@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:04:55 GMT On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:20:35 -0800, meow2222 wrote: > Its yet another advantage of cardboard boxes on wood shelving, makes it > looks like a downmarket shack filled with junk. May not look flash, but > it means you get to keep it. Probably more useful for self contained > unguarded units than corporate workshops. And another cool thing you can do is label them all "Misc.". Drives the visitors nuts! ;-) Cheers! Rich Article: 95575 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Richard the Dreaded Libertarian Subject: Re: Unusual functions of cheap parts Message-ID: References: <4385b3b1$1$27887$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <22dhq1h62jj51unhlqqt1ftklkoll52ldd@4ax.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:10:50 GMT On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:54:30 -0700, Mark Fergerson wrote: > Jim Thompson wrote: >> On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 01:42:16 GMT, Joerg >> wrote: > >>>Hello Henry, >>> >>>>Do you know of other interesting devices or circuits good for misuse? > >>>Six sawed off pieces of the pole of a busted market umbrella allowed me >>>to move a 1/2ton piece of furniture all by myself. >>> >>>Oh wait, wrong category.... > >> I've done that with 1" oak dowel. > > I've done it with sheer adrenaline (I'm 6'0", 150#) after watching > three big bruisers horse around and get nowhere with an air conditioner > that was IN MY FUCKING WAY!!! I stomped up, said "MOVE IT!", grabbed a > corner, shoved hard and walked past. And no, I didn't so much as bend a > fingernail. For some reason, this brings to mind one of todays Top Nooz stories - some woman who was jogging in the park was jumped by some guy who wanted to assault her and she kicked the shit out of him. But they noted that she was 6' and about 140#, and he was 5'6", 120#. It was actually kinda refreshing to hear about someone defending herself, but how stoopid do you have to be to attack somebody that's twice your size? ?:-/ Cheers! Rich Article: 95576 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Mr Fed UP" References: <1134520239.071671.96720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1134782992.159432.296340@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1134889049.450477.124800@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135137990.614743.204620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: What Does Your Electronics Workshop Look Like? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 10:57:40 -0600 Holly Crap!!! You have anyplace I can get a pick-up truck load of money for all these suggestions? LOL I like to build me a "play with my radio toys" bench not a do everything Electronics Lab. Some nice suggestions, but waaaay out of the average Hams pocket book I thinks. May need to plan what it is you really want the bench for. You could spend the rest of your life putting it all together and not enjoying the things you want to play with. After all, if you look at the ARRL Handbook; it would be nearly impossible to have one workbench to fit all aspects of Ham Radio. From QRP to Satellite.. Wheeew! what a spread. Better think about it for a while first. Remember it's not the one with the most toys that wins.... It's the one who gets to play the most with their toys. Keep the ideas coming though, might be a few good ones I can afford on my SS check. :-) No suggestions for the apartment size cooler for the beer and a chair for the visiting novice? Er better make that a recliner.... some of my stories take a while. ie. Rag Chew Award Then there was the time...... 73 K4TWO Gary "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message news:1135137990.614743.204620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Thanks NT....I appreciate your detailed response....very helpful. > > Anyone else? > > How about arrangement of test equiptment? I have seen many benchs > overtaken by stacks of equipment with it running over on the floor. > > > TMT > Article: 95577 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: szekeres@pitt.edu (GregS) Subject: Re: What Does Your Electronics Workshop Look Like? Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 17:07:07 GMT Message-ID: References: <1134520239.071671.96720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1134782992.159432.296340@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43A5D288.8030009@nospam.com> <1135149635.452648.254900@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In article , Rich Grise wrote: >On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:20:35 -0800, meow2222 wrote: > >> Fred Bloggs wrote: >> >>> > How about floor coverings? Ever drop a tiny screw or surface mount part >>> > on the floor and spend hours looking for it? >>> >>> It always has to be thick insulating mats rated for 20KV, >> >> Though it creates static hell IME. I much prefer wood, it will insulate >> personnel from anything too nasty, but without the static. (avoid >> nailing wood to concrete, which conducts.) With floor insulation you >> have to keep fondling the benches as you walk along, else you build up >> enough static to get bit just from crossing the room. A real hallmark >> of poor design imho, yet seems to be industry standard here, including >> in labs working on ESD sensitive kit. > >http://www.google.com/search?q=%22antistatic+carpet%22 > >Cheers! >Rich > I like wood benches for some of the same reasons. I have been using a rubber static relief mat, that holds up under high heat, and also has a natural curl, so parts always settle back inside the mat, and not roll away. This thing is great. I doubt if MCM still has a similar item. The stock number on the mat is not currently valid. I've been using color printers more lately, for laying out various things, either building things or fixing things. Having a circuit board, you can take pictures of both sides, then flip one side, and you can more easily trouble shoot or build things. Having a color laserprinter makes the process faster. Having multiple benches is almost mandatory for certain projects. I frequently use a Rubbermaid cart to put equipment on, and work right there on the cart. You can always push the cart away, and work on something else. Its also necessary sometimes for big or heavy objects, even dripping things like water baths. Screws, etc., stay inside the carts tray. A very bright flashlight held along the floor, will usually find parts much more easily than just looking around. At home I have had "workbenches". but my number one work bench, was the top of a washing machine. Its a bitch when the screws fall inside. greg Article: 95578 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "guv" Subject: Re: If the answer's, "M3", it must be a bloody silly question! Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:46:44 -0000 Message-ID: <40tm8iF1bp5e0U1@individual.net> References: <1135154062.667473.109580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Pierian Spring" wrote in message news:1135154062.667473.109580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... Fuck off, Evans. Article: 95579 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: class-a-pkearn-zuuzpk@multi-band-cb-is-here---its-as-easy-as-they-say.br.eircom.ie.net (zYYPK) Subject: Re: If the answer's, "M3", it must be a bloody silly question! Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 21:27:10 GMT Message-ID: <43a9c89e.1287800@news.iol.ie> References: <1135154062.667473.109580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135161078.520645.90890@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "DrBoris" wrote: oh look! the good doctor has surfaced. Article: 95580 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: class-a-pkearn-zuuzpk@multi-band-cb-is-here---its-as-easy-as-they-say.br.eircom.ie.net (zYYPK) Subject: Re: If the answer's, "M3", it must be a bloody silly question! Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 21:28:02 GMT Message-ID: <43a9c8bf.1320954@news.iol.ie> References: <1135154062.667473.109580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135161078.520645.90890@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135179738.032256.236000@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> mike@g4kfk.co.uk wrote: > NWTAP, but his postings are more symptomatic of bipolar disorder than > of senile dementure. and i'm sure you are qualified to make such a suggestion ??? if you are fine... if you are not then why did you ? Article: 95581 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Message-ID: <43A9FC3B.A89470C2@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: What Does Your Electronics Workshop Look Like? References: <1134520239.071671.96720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1134782992.159432.296340@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43A5D288.8030009@nospam.com> <1135149635.452648.254900@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 01:08:37 GMT Rich Grise wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:20:35 -0800, meow2222 wrote: > > > Its yet another advantage of cardboard boxes on wood shelving, makes it > > looks like a downmarket shack filled with junk. May not look flash, but > > it means you get to keep it. Probably more useful for self contained > > unguarded units than corporate workshops. > > And another cool thing you can do is label them all "Misc.". Drives the > visitors nuts! ;-) > > Cheers! > Rich Amateur! Number the boxes, then tell them you lost the index. -- Been there, Done that, I've got my DD214 to prove it. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 95582 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: ehsjr Subject: Re: Still looking for a Tripp Lite PR-25 (or similar) DC power supply References: <43A83F2A.72DD0E2C@psdude.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 03:40:24 GMT Paul P wrote: > There are a couple of smoked resistors on the regulator board. I can not > trust the ohm meter reading so I wanted to verify its value. I am trying to > avoid De-engineering the board. Now once the resistors are replace there > may be something else that smoked the resistors too. > > Paul. > Here's a link to an Astron supply: http://www.seits.org/features/pwrsup.htm Assuming a typical 723 ==> pass transistors linear supply, it shouldn't be hard to figure out the values of the cooked resistors. The schematic at the link above serves well as a model for many (most?) of that type of supply. Combined with the LM723 datasheet, you can fix it. Ed > "PS_DUDE" wrote in message > news:43A83F2A.72DD0E2C@psdude.com... > >>hi paul, >> >>Tripp lite makes good supplies but lacks in the >>support side ! >> >>Good thing is the supplies use off the shelf parts >>or easy substituted parts from anywhre, >>http://www.mouser.com etc. >> >>What problem(s) are you having ? >> >>73 ps dude >> > > > Article: 95583 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Message-ID: <43AA2228.99960F58@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: What Does Your Electronics Workshop Look Like? References: <1134520239.071671.96720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 03:50:45 GMT Too_Many_Tools wrote: > > "What are you planning to do with all this TMT, set up a new workshop, > write a book? > > NT " > > I am setting up a new test bench and am trying to learn from the > experiences of others. > > Write a book? No, but if there were a good one I would buy it. Has > anyone ever seen the "The Workshop Book" and the The Workbench Book" > for wood workers? I sure wish ones existed for electronic hobbywork. > > Does anyone have any books they would suggest that would discuss > setting up this type of workshop? > > TMT It would be difficult, because no two home electronics workbenches have the equipment or tools. That is why i have several benches, including a couple extra that are stacked up in the corner for the next time I get a batch of test equipment. -- Been there, Done that, I've got my DD214 to prove it. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 95584 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 00:59:21 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: What Does Your Electronics Workshop Look Like? References: <1134520239.071671.96720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1134782992.159432.296340@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1134889049.450477.124800@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135137990.614743.204620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135149756.105040.22900@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1135215150.279073.81340@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43AA2228.99960F58@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Too_Many_Tools wrote: > > It would be difficult, because no two home electronics workbenches > have the equipment or tools. That is why i have several benches, > including a couple extra that are stacked up in the corner for the next > time I get a batch of test equipment. I have "thousands" of ideas should you need one. -Bill Article: 95585 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Spike Subject: Re: FAQ - revised version Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 11:30:15 +0000 Message-ID: <1uukq1dteklhp6s4e5dgvah0j98uomn419@4ax.com> References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135242601.245634.261180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> mike@g4kfk.co.uk wrote: > >Over-wound Spring wrote: > >> In case their are those who get a CB-type rig such as the 817 >> in their stockings and are misled by those-who-ought-to-know-better >> into thinking that they are Radio Hams, the weekly (and >> revised) FAQ is posted a couple of days early to enable >> the parents to take the CB gear back to the shop..... >You should get an 817 yourself - no tuning required! It's interesting to note that the author makes much of the repair issue in his so-called 'FAQ', where he says: "Usually such people are a variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their radios off the shelf and send them back to be repaired" and also goes on to say, referring to his vision of 'radio hams' (whatever they are): "They do this with gusto, and also repair and modify their own equipment" but elsewhere said "I wouldn't recommend anyone whose background is in transistorised QRP to tackle the neutralising of a compact PA stage with 600 VDC on the anodes after replacing the antenna coupling capacitor " Is there is a conflict here between the so-called 'FAQ' as laid down, and its practice as suggested by its own adherent? Under what circumstances should others 'repair with gusto' but not consider adjustments to a valve PA? All PAs? Ones with 12V on the anode? What are the limitations here? Is there a safety issue here? Where does one go to get 'a suitable background'? The so-called 'FAQ' should make things clear, not have the issues clouded by postings elsewhere. But it doesn't stop here. Note that no licence is necessary for the repair of radios, as anyone who wishes can repair them. Neither does the possession of an Amateur Licence bestow a qualification for this activity; it is not specifically mentioned. But further to the repair issue; the so-called 'FAQ', as noted above, states "Usually such people are a variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their radios off the shelf and send them back to be repaired" but it is apparently a sanctioned activity to have a non-functioning radio, and sell it off in that state, the 'redeeming' factors being that the owner was prepared to repair it, and was intending to repair it; the fact that he did not do so apparently being irrelevant. So, under this so-called 'FAQ', anyone whose radio ceased to function, but who thought they might have a go at repairing it, and indeed intended to repair it, but in the end didn't for whatever reason ("I can't find a screwdriver to get the lid off") would not have negated their 'qualification' for inclusion in the strange but very limited sect proposed by the so-called 'FAQ'! A mere 'statement of intent', perhaps made years later, will be all that is required to save their bacon! It would seem that this issue of 'repair' needs to be clarified within the so-called 'FAQ' itself, rather than by passing defensive remarks in other utterances; and to do this as a matter of urgency as there might be safety issues for anyone so encouraged to follow it. Also, it makes the so-called 'FAQ' difficult to follow for its adherents - should there be any - in much the same way that over the years 'operating' has been at various times both held high and then damned. It would seem that this so-called 'FAQ' is itself in need of serious repair; let us see if the author can tackle that, or whether he merely intends to tackle it but then abandon it in favour of some activity that actually lies within his ambit. It is suggested that for a number of reasons, some possibly legal in scope, he does not republish it until the problems inherent in it are satisfactorily dealt with, otherwise serious issues might arise by any who follow it. from Aero Spike Article: 95586 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Super DX" Subject: website Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 13:25:09 +0100 Hi all, here is a new ham website : http://superdx.free.fr 73's and Merry Xmas ! Vince Article: 95587 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Brian Reay" References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135242601.245634.261180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1uukq1dteklhp6s4e5dgvah0j98uomn419@4ax.com> Subject: Re: FAQ - revised version Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:32:14 GMT "Spike" wrote in message news:1uukq1dteklhp6s4e5dgvah0j98uomn419@4ax.com... > > "I wouldn't recommend anyone whose background is in transistorised QRP > to tackle the neutralising of a compact PA stage with 600 VDC on the > anodes after replacing the antenna coupling capacitor " > > Is there is a conflict here between the so-called 'FAQ' as laid down, > and its practice as suggested by its own adherent? Under what > circumstances should others 'repair with gusto' but not consider > adjustments to a valve PA? All PAs? Ones with 12V on the anode? What > are the limitations here? Is there a safety issue here? Where does one > go to get 'a suitable background'? The so-called 'FAQ' should make > things clear, not have the issues clouded by postings elsewhere. Plus, of course, such a neutralisation isn't that difficult a task- being a normal process after replacing a valve. I've done a couple of FT101's over the years and I don't recall the PA being that compact. Either way, assuming the technician involved had even a modicum of experience in electronics, it is the sort of job I'd expect them to be able to tackle. 73 Brian Article: 95588 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Dino Papas Subject: Re: What Does Your Electronics Workshop Look Like? References: <1134520239.071671.96720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1134782992.159432.296340@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1134889049.450477.124800@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135137990.614743.204620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135149756.105040.22900@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1135215150.279073.81340@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135230010.796033.161450@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 07:50:15 -0500 There's a pretty good book available that covers a lot of the basics: "Build Your Own Electronics Workshop" by Tom Petruzzellis ISBN 0-07-144724-5 (McGraw Hill Publisher) Not the answer to all but gives you some pretty good ideas to use as departure points as you put your shop together. Dino KL0S/4 Article: 95589 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Pierian Spring" Subject: Re: FAQ - revised version Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 13:10:41 -0000 Message-ID: References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135242601.245634.261180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135245362.058528.81080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135245779.351638.228770@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135247807.624407.200900@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> However as it's Christmas, please feel free to join me at my run down QTH for a spot of meths! Pierian Spring wrote: > I don't follow web links - if you have something valid > to contribute to a discussion in this NG - possibly > your address and telephone number, then contribute it, > or else be for ever dismissed as a cowardly child. > Article: 95590 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Spike Subject: Re: FAQ - revised version Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 13:38:08 +0000 Message-ID: References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135242601.245634.261180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1uukq1dteklhp6s4e5dgvah0j98uomn419@4ax.com> <1135257250.969579.255320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> mike@g4kfk.co.uk wrote: > >Spike wrote: > >> It would seem that this so-called 'FAQ' is itself in need of serious >> repair; let us see if the author can tackle that, or whether he merely >> intends to tackle it but then abandon it in favour of some activity >> that actually lies within his ambit. It is suggested that for a number >> of reasons, some possibly legal in scope, he does not republish it >> until the problems inherent in it are satisfactorily dealt with, >> otherwise serious issues might arise by any who follow it. > >But why would he allow "nugatories" (his word) such as truth and >common-sense to spoil his vision of amateur radio? A vision which, >according to this posting from 1999, included an HND-level exam! Presumably this is the level of attainment that he himself reached; had he set it higher, he would have excluded himself! But it is the so-called 'FAQ' that raises the greatest concern, for he has now started to bound it with other advice - not written within the so-called FAQ, but elsewhere. If this was done as part of a professional's duties, it would be regarded as, well, unprofessional; but in the context of encouraging newcomers, it is a dangerous and disgraceful practice. Should this so-called FAQ should be ignored by all, and a disclaimer issued by the author? Perhaps an abuse report might be in order if this not be done in the very near future. from Aero Spike Article: 95591 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: W8LNA Subject: Re: FAQ - revised version References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 13:50:11 GMT Pierian Spring wrote: > In case their are those who get a CB-type rig such as the 817 > in their stockings and are misled by those-who-ought-to-know-better > into thinking that they are Radio Hams, I got news for ya chappie, the war's over, you can get those parts for your head now. Yeah, yeah, I know, 'stupid boy.' You need some new material, and maybe some vitamin C tabs, ya been suckin' limes* so long you're sour completely through. *- Apologies to all the British possibly offended by this remark with the exception of G4SDW, who it was intended to offend. Article: 95592 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Brian Reay" References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135242601.245634.261180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1uukq1dteklhp6s4e5dgvah0j98uomn419@4ax.com> <1135257250.969579.255320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FAQ - revised version Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:47:46 GMT "Spike" wrote in message news:lbalq19t17ujhd6gobqi9pts126420534o@4ax.com... >but elsewhere. If this was done as part of a > professional's duties, it would be regarded as, well, unprofessional; > but in the context of encouraging newcomers, it is a dangerous and > disgraceful practice. Certainly most professions expect the "established" to encourage and support newcomers. Experienced engineers tend to have newcomers as assistants, qualified teachers have PGCE students to mentor and advise, new police officers are put with experienced officers, junior Doctors are assign to a registrar, etc., etc., etc. Such a system only fails if the "established" person isn't so "established" as maybe they should be. 73 Brian Article: 95593 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "DrBoris" References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135242601.245634.261180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135244538.349938.188520@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FAQ - revised version Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:09:39 GMT "Pierian Spring" wrote in message news:1135244538.349938.188520@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> I wouldn't recommend anyone whose background > is in transistorised QRP to tackle the neutralising of a compact > PA stage with 600 VDC on the anodes after replacing the > antenna coupling capacitor unadvisedly, lightly, or wantonly. So how are people supposed to learn/progress if they are not going to tackle something they have no previous experience of? Is that not the whole point of Ham Radio, as you seem to continually remind us of in your FAQ? Article: 95594 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Rich Grise Subject: Re: What Does Your Electronics Workshop Look Like? Message-ID: References: <1134520239.071671.96720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1134782992.159432.296340@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1134889049.450477.124800@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135137990.614743.204620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135149756.105040.22900@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1135215150.279073.81340@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:52:30 GMT On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 17:32:30 -0800, Too_Many_Tools wrote: > "What are you planning to do with all this TMT, set up a new workshop, > write a book? > > NT " > > I am setting up a new test bench and am trying to learn from the > experiences of others. This is the kind of deal where you make up your own experience. You sit at a blank bench, and put your project in front of you, and go, "Now, where would I like my power supply, DVM, and scope be sitting while I do this?" Personally, I like to have everything possible at my fingertips, so I go with a U-shaped bench, a chair on wheels, and two tiers of shelves for stuff. So use your imagination! Make up the workbench of your dreams, custom- tailored to your very own personal specification. :-) Have Fun! Rich Article: 95595 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Me Subject: Re: FAQ - revised version Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:17:13 +0000 Message-ID: References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135242601.245634.261180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135245362.058528.81080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135245779.351638.228770@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135247807.624407.200900@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Pierian Spring wrote: [snip] > I advise anybody to remain anonymous As in getting yourself arrested, and your name and picture published in your local newspaper..thus bringing amateur radio into disrepute, is that what you version of anonymous is ? http://archive.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/2005/3/10/91923.html Article: 95596 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: W8LNA Subject: Re: FAQ - revised version References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135269630.269502.23890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:59:33 GMT Pierian Spring wrote: > If it was your intention to be perceived as a Childish Broadcaster > (CBer), > and deliberately setting out to cause offence is most certainly > childish, then continue with your Childish Broadcasting (CB) such > as you use below. > > Grow up, Galen Watts! 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This is a ham radio group. 2. Hams do not operate illegal transmitters nor condone those who do. 3. Go away. 73, Bill W6WRT Article: 95599 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: class-a-pkearn-zuuzpk@multi-band-cb-is-here---its-as-easy-as-they-say.br.eircom.ie.net (zYYPK) Subject: Re: If the answer's, "M3", it must be a bloody silly question! Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 17:51:09 GMT Message-ID: <43aae775.1154377@news.iol.ie> References: <1135154062.667473.109580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <40tm8iF1bp5e0U1@individual.net> "guv" wrote: > xxxx xxx, xxxxx. the foul mouthed cb'er .... Article: 95600 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: class-a-pkearn-zuuzpk@multi-band-cb-is-here---its-as-easy-as-they-say.br.eircom.ie.net (zYYPK) Subject: Re: If the answer's, "M3", it must be a bloody silly question! Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 17:52:13 GMT Message-ID: <43aae79e.1194761@news.iol.ie> References: <1135154062.667473.109580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <40tm8iF1bp5e0U1@individual.net> <1135202440.809264.313710@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "huLLy" wrote: > Are you drunk yet? Getting in the mood for some baaadroom antics with > xxxxxxxxx? there you go again... giving a green light to all and sundry to mention your own wife BY NAME !! Article: 95601 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Ed Unsworth" References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135269630.269502.23890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135271229.566574.35570@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FAQ - revised version Message-ID: <43aae83d_3@x-privat.org> Date: 22 Dec 2005 18:54:05 +0100 "Pierian Spring" wrote in message news:1135271229.566574.35570@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > If anyone is arrested as the result of a malicious > and perjurous complaint, Pray tell, has there been a prosecution, or conviction against Mr Reay for the above "alleged" malicious and perjurous complaints, if not your allegations must be groundless. > Brian Reay is a we*nkmason Right all is now clear...I take it you have never been invited to join, yet another goal you have failed to achieve. Article: 95602 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "johan aeq" References: <1135270030.634625.80190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Disciplining Airwave Nuisance Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:45:57 +0100 Message-ID: try to find out the frequency: lend a portable frequencycounter and get close to the speaker. The frequencyreadout of this counter is the one you have to transmit to overrule the speaker... If you are in luck the frequency will be about 433.500MHz.. There are a couple of cheap portophones on this frequency.. schreef in bericht news:1135270030.634625.80190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > There is this preachertype who comes to campus and he is impossible to > ignore because he uses a wireless PA system. Is there a way to get a > wireless mic or some other transmitter and piggyback onto his wireless > PA system so others can enjoy freedom of speech using his PA? If so, > what would we need to do this? Please explain it so a doofus (me) can > understand. > > I posted the above on related newsgroups and I have learned the > following: > 1. It's all probably illegal and the Patriot Act will put me in prison > forever for even considering it. > 2. It's definitely doable but I will need to identify the frequency > the wireless mic is transmitting on and find another microphoned > transmitter device that will allow me to override his wireless mic with > a message of my own. > > So the question remains: what is the name of this "microphoned > transmitter device" and where can I find one or find the plans for > building one? > > Thank you. > Article: 95603 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: W8LNA Subject: Re: FAQ - revised version References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135269630.269502.23890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135271229.566574.35570@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:12:38 GMT Pierian Spring wrote: > Brian Reay subjected me to a vicious, malicious and distressing > campaign of harassment... Considering your behavior here I sincerely doubt your account of Mr. Reay's actions, especially when you refer to the constabulary as 'the plods,' a strong indication of your own denial of reality. I suspect (there's a word you're used to, eh?) the police reviewed transcripts of your exchanges with Mr. Reay and apparently determined you were the threat, as you were the party taken in to custody. Ta ta, W8LNA, 'Stupid Child' Article: 95604 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Boaz Subject: Re: FAQ - revised version Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:57:26 +0000 Message-ID: <410b8mF1cs003U1@individual.net> References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135242601.245634.261180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135245362.058528.81080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135245779.351638.228770@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135247807.624407.200900@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1135265043.790913.86810@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> mike@g4kfk.co.uk wrote: > Pierian Spring wrote: > >>However as it's Christmas, please feel free to join me at my run down QTH >>for a spot of meths! > > > That's a very kind offer and, as it happens, we will be visiting > friends in Canal Road over the hols, so I might well take you up on the > offer. > > It it BYOB? Should I bring my own anti-freeze? > > Merry CHRISTmas > Mike G4KFK > www.g4kfk.co.uk > In case anyone has trouble finding his qth (you might want to deliver christmas cards) here is a map www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=address&country=GB&addtohistory=&address=&city=&zipcode=SN15+3AA The fact that Wood Lane Police Station is only just down the road is just coincidental (I think) Article: 95605 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Rich Grise, but drunk" Subject: Re: What Does Your Electronics Workshop Look Like? Message-ID: References: <1134520239.071671.96720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1134782992.159432.296340@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43A5D288.8030009@nospam.com> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:02:44 GMT On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 17:20:28 +0000, Ian White GM3SEK wrote: > Fred Bloggs wrote: >> >>> How about floor coverings? Ever drop a tiny screw or surface mount >>>part >>> on the floor and spend hours looking for it? >> >>It always has to be thick insulating mats rated for 20KV, any IC >>dropped on the floor is considered lost and not used, a screw is a >>different matter, you shouldn't have to hunt for a hard to find screw, >>you should be able to cut to length any replacement. >> > Someone had a very good idea about finding dropped parts: vacuum the > floor occasionally* with a sheer filter (women's tights) stretched over > the cleaner nozzle. I'd lose track of whatever I was doing, and go play with the woman who isn't wearing the tights. ;-P Cheers! Rich Article: 95606 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: W8LNA Subject: Re: FAQ - revised version References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135269630.269502.23890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135271229.566574.35570@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135280092.889738.28190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:59:02 GMT Pierian Spring wrote: ... > if you wish to be perceived as a Childish Broadcaster... Frankly I don't care how you perceive me. You, on the other hand, seem to be perceived by the others on this group as just that you decry, childish. > My behaviour here has always been in support of the > technical pursuit that is _REAL Ham Radio and trying > to maintain standards of decency... Whose standards? Yours? Do those 'standards' involve assisting newcomers, or do you just call them 'childish' and gloat from your soiled, ivory tower? Oh for pity's sake. It seems everyone here knows who you are, where you live etc. So why can't you post under your own name and call sign, instead of some fantastically pompous delusion that you're representative of some font of wisdom? A font of pomposity, yes. Wisdom and knowledge? I'd laugh if you weren't so incredibly pitiful. Go build something, follow your own FAQ, W8LNA Article: 95607 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI Subject: Re: FAQ - revised version References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135269630.269502.23890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135271229.566574.35570@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135281968.135904.265150@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 20:13:31 GMT Pierian Spring of verbal diarrhoea wrote: > At 16:45 on the 3rd July 2000, Bobby Young, an Acting > Inspector screamed at me, "ANY OLD PLOD WILL NOT DO!". > (Perhaps it is no wonder the childish disposition of the > common plod when their leaders behave so badly) > OK Beanie, don't keep us in suspense, what caused him to scream that at you, and why did you note the exact date and time? ...(_!_)... Article: 95609 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: W8LNA Subject: Re: FAQ - revised version References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135269630.269502.23890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135271229.566574.35570@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135280092.889738.28190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135282584.606742.287660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 20:27:19 GMT Pierian Spring wrote: > If you wish forever henceforth to be perceived as a Childish > Broadcaster (CBer)... Make an attempt to grasp the following: I don't care what you forever henceforth perceive of me, your authority and superiority in the matter extends only to the ends of the contents of your cranium, whatever that may be. > Grow up, Galen! > > Stupid child. Get stuffed, Springy Old Boy. Pompous ass (arse). -W8LNA Article: 95610 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Paul M0EME" Subject: help with a transformer Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:05:54 -0000 Message-ID: <43ab1533$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com> Hi all, Im using the transformer from a Bremi BRL500 linear to make a ham HF linear using four EL519 valves. I need to identify the leads coming from the transformer, I bought the transformer surplus so have no data with it.... Also has anyone got any EL519 valves they will sell.... Thankyou -- Thanks and 73's de Paul M0EME 432MHz EME 4 times FO19, FT847, MGF1302, 100 Watts at feed, Spectran. Initials 432MHz #2 CW #4 JT65 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/m0eme Article: 95611 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: w4sef@bellsouth.net (Steven Fritts) Subject: Re: Disciplining Airwave Nuisance Message-ID: <43ab34d9.19379031@newsgroups.bellsouth.net> References: <1135270030.634625.80190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 23:21:41 GMT This has nothing to do with Ham radio. Find the correct newsgroup. Steve W4SEF On 22 Dec 2005 08:47:10 -0800, "nhorsley@charter.net" wrote: >There is this preachertype who comes to campus and he is impossible to >ignore because he uses a wireless PA system. Is there a way to get a >wireless mic or some other transmitter and piggyback onto his wireless >PA system so others can enjoy freedom of speech using his PA? If so, >what would we need to do this? Please explain it so a doofus (me) can >understand. > >I posted the above on related newsgroups and I have learned the >following: >1. It's all probably illegal and the Patriot Act will put me in prison >forever for even considering it. >2. It's definitely doable but I will need to identify the frequency >the wireless mic is transmitting on and find another microphoned >transmitter device that will allow me to override his wireless mic with >a message of my own. > >So the question remains: what is the name of this "microphoned >transmitter device" and where can I find one or find the plans for >building one? > >Thank you. > Article: 95612 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Russ Subject: Re: Disciplining Airwave Nuisance Message-ID: References: <1135270030.634625.80190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6jolq15d2f5mo87477mj66cjqbsc57sgs6@4ax.com> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 03:31:27 GMT On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 09:30:34 -0800, Bill Turner wrote: > >ORIGINAL MESSAGE: > >On 22 Dec 2005 08:47:10 -0800, "nhorsley@charter.net" > wrote: > >>So the question remains: what is the name of this "microphoned >>transmitter device" and where can I find one or find the plans for >>building one? > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >1. This is a ham radio group. >2. Hams do not operate illegal transmitters nor condone those who do. >3. Go away. > >73, Bill W6WRT 1. Correct. 2. He is not asking about an illegal transmitter and I also do not condone those who use them. He is asking for information about commonly available, legal wireless microphones. 3. That's not very nice. 73, Russ KF4WXD Article: 95613 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Bill Turner Subject: Re: Disciplining Airwave Nuisance Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 20:34:15 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1135270030.634625.80190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6jolq15d2f5mo87477mj66cjqbsc57sgs6@4ax.com> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 03:31:27 GMT, Russ wrote: >2. He is not asking about an illegal transmitter and I also do not >condone those who use them. He is asking for information about >commonly available, legal wireless microphones. Which he wants to use in order to jam. That's illegal. >3. That's not very nice. Neither is jamming. 73, Bill W6WRT Article: 95614 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "realradioham" References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135272698.718441.207390@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135296620.836221.162500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135330256.248735.93250@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FAQ - the voices in my head told me to post it again Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:33:00 -0000 Message-ID: <43abc48f$3_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com> "Pierian Spring" wrote in message news:1135330256.248735.93250@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Don't you realise how silly and ridiculous you make yourself > look, by indulging in what are essentially very infantile > abusive tirades in an international forum that is broadcast to > the whole world? Do you ever read your own posts??? Same repetitive twaddle. rrh Article: 95615 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Howard Long" Subject: Re: FAQ - revised version Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:54:05 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135242601.245634.261180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135245362.058528.81080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135245779.351638.228770@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135247807.624407.200900@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1135270656.287807.255580@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "huLLy" wrote in message news:AJadnUJk5O3dnzbenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@giganews.com... > How your wife puts up with you I shall never know. Maybe she's locked in a > trunk in the attic or mummified in a rocking chair? Or a pen perhaps? 73, Howard G6LVB Article: 95616 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Howard Long" Subject: Re: FAQ - the voices in my head told me to post it again Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:08:27 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135272698.718441.207390@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135296620.836221.162500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135330256.248735.93250@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135330662.932422.39500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> wrote in message news:1135330662.932422.39500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > > Pierian Spring wrote: > > You, coming as you do from a background as a ship's radio > > "officer", really ought to know better. Shame on you. > > You keep posting this, like you've dug up some interesting piece of > trivia from an obscure source. Not that obscure to most as it's a web link on your website's home page that you often quote. But then it would be obscure to Pierian Spring who said in this thread: > I don't follow web links Or is there was some other really credible explanation, like a lucky guess, divine inspiration, someone else followed the link and told him... or some other dog-ate-my-homework reason? Cheers & season's greetings. 73, Howard G6LVB Article: 95617 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Galen, W8LNA" Subject: Re: FAQ - revised version References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135269630.269502.23890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135271229.566574.35570@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135280092.889738.28190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135282584.606742.287660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1135330194.139270.169560@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:51:43 GMT Pierian Spring wrote: > For as long... (another warm breeze snipped) Let me guess: You're the inspiration for the Monty Python character 'Upper Class Twit of the Year'? That's amazing, considering you were about 15 years old when they filmed that skit, you were quite accomplished at such a tender age, my accolades! If you are the example of a _REAL_ Radio Ham the hobby has definately sunk to a low much lower than I had ever suspected possible. W8LNA Article: 95618 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Galen, W8LNA" Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated again because I can't accept that I need professional References: <1135272146.015418.187910@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135276808.446431.145720@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135279570.262295.322110@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135289803.129337.68990@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135327505.305793.296210@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135328524.880631.75010@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:57:11 GMT mike@g4kfk.co.uk wrote: > Pierian Spring wrote: > >>Grow up, Mike Gathergood! >>Stupid boy. > > > I've got 9 now! Maybe I'll go for the Golden Straight Jacket award > instead. At this rate I'll have it under my belt by the new year! I've got five 'Stupid Childs', is that a separate category or are we in competition? If the latter, I may be behind but I've got the will and desire to win! Fair warning, I'm still in the game! (if I don't laugh myself into a serious injury.) 73, G4KFK! -W8LNA Article: 95621 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Galen, W8LNA" Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated again because I can't accept that I need professional References: <1135272146.015418.187910@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135276808.446431.145720@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135279570.262295.322110@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135289803.129337.68990@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135327505.305793.296210@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135328524.880631.75010@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135339255.215243.239050@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <1%Rqf.1872$OU3.842@news01.roc.ny> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:23:25 GMT Pierian Spring wrote: > For... You weren't being addressed, please butt out! ... >>mike@g4kfk.co.uk wrote: >> >>>Pierian Spring wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Grow up, Mike Gathergood! >>>>Stupid boy. >>> >>> >>>I've got 9 now! Maybe I'll go for the Golden Straight Jacket award >>>instead. At this rate I'll have it under my belt by the new year! >> >>I've got five 'Stupid Childs', is that a separate category or are we in >>competition? If the latter, I may be behind but I've got the will and >>desire to win! Fair warning, I'm still in the game! (if I don't laugh >>myself into a serious injury.) >> >>73, G4KFK! >>-W8LNA > > Article: 95622 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Galen, W8LNA" Subject: Re: FAQ - revised version References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135269630.269502.23890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135271229.566574.35570@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135280092.889738.28190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135282584.606742.287660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1135330194.139270.169560@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135339125.703759.269650@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:24:09 GMT Pierian Spring wrote: > For as long... ...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzHuh? Oh, still at it? hmmh....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... (shhh!) (-W8LNA) Article: 95623 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: DX Cluster Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:23:16 -0000 Message-ID: Hi All, Happy Christmas etc. If anyone is looking for a DX Cluster to use, then be my guest.......... My cluster GB7UJS can be accessed via telnet, gb7ujs.shacknet.nu on port 7373 it is on 24/7 and does not require passwords or pre-registration etc. just type telnet gb7ujs.shacknet.nu 7373 For a manual, other information and details on access by packet radio please see my website. cheers and many beers 73 de Bob Harrison G4UJS Telephone: +44 7876 791215 Website: http://www.qsl.net/g4ujs Article: 95624 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: spam.for.the@buerotiger.de (Peter Lemken) Subject: Re: DX Cluster Date: 23 Dec 2005 12:38:52 GMT Message-ID: <4129esF1ce4q4U1@individual.net> References: In rec.radio.amateur.dx Bob Harrison wrote: > Hi All, > > Happy Christmas etc. > > If anyone is looking for a DX Cluster to use, then be my guest.......... > > My cluster GB7UJS can be accessed via telnet, gb7ujs.shacknet.nu on port > 7373 > > it is on 24/7 and does not require passwords or pre-registration etc. Why not? Peter Lemken DF5JT Berlin -- Paul Lincke ist dem Zille sein Milhaud. (Harry Rowohlt) Article: 95625 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Brian Reay" References: <1135272146.015418.187910@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135276808.446431.145720@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135279570.262295.322110@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135289803.129337.68990@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135327505.305793.296210@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135328524.880631.75010@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135339255.215243.239050@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated again because I can't accept that I need professional help Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:48:26 GMT "huLLy" wrote in message news:L-SdnfEMZMO2dzbeRVnytQ@giganews.com... >> > Now that Christmas, aka the alchoholic period, is upon us, expect postings > to increase with toxicity. More like someone is having a bad time and sees everyone else having a good time, so they lash out. Same mentality that gives rise to vandals damaging nice cars etc. Sad really. Merry Xmas & 73 Brian G8OSN www.g8osn.org.uk Article: 95627 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Galen, W8LNA" Subject: Re: A Merry Solstice To All Our Readers References: <1135342081.128309.88930@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:58:20 GMT Pierian Spring wrote: > Now that the onslaught of rather silly and infantile > tirades from the closet CBers... Sorry for the delay, I was over on the LinRadio console actually doing ham radio (it's sunrise here) instead of provoking what could be described as the 21st century version of Inspiration for the Sex Pistols. Where were we? Oh yes, If you were a real ham radio op you'd be on the radio instead of playing Lord of the Gnats. Twit. -W8LNA Article: 95628 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Galen, W8LNA" Subject: Re: FAQ - revised version References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135269630.269502.23890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135271229.566574.35570@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135280092.889738.28190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135282584.606742.287660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1135330194.139270.169560@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135339125.703759.269650@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135341020.458222.135970@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <0ySqf.194$qg.62@news02.roc.ny> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:00:44 GMT Pierian Spring wrote: > I am pleased that you tire of your infantile behaviour... Nahhh, you're just boring me near to death! Got to go, Springy Ol' Chap(ped arse), it's sunrise and I'm hearing good DX. -W8LNA Article: 95629 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "tox" References: <1135272146.015418.187910@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135276808.446431.145720@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135279570.262295.322110@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135289803.129337.68990@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135327505.305793.296210@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135328524.880631.75010@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135339255.215243.239050@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated again because I can't accept that I need professional help Message-ID: <09Tqf.30747$8v6.2194@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:42:20 GMT "huLLy" wrote in message news:L-SdnfEMZMO2dzbeRVnytQ@giganews.com... > Pierian Spring wrote: >> Shame on you. >> >> Grow up, Galen Watts! >> >> Stupid child. >> > Now that Christmas, aka the alchoholic period, is upon us, expect postings > to increase with toxicity. Oi, don't drag me into his cesspit ;-) tox Article: 95630 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Galen, W8LNA" Subject: Re: A Merry Solstice To All Our Readers References: <1135342081.128309.88930@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135342823.301353.241710@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:44:10 GMT MuppetMaster wrote: > ... I do believe you (Gareth) are a good > egg. I don't think he is, I think he's someone who finds himself unhappy with his lot in life and instead of trying to improve what he can (starting with himself) he instead denigrates what's around him in a futile attempt to elevate himself. He draws ridicule like a magnet because he continues to denigrate after receiving helpful and occasionally nasty suggestions to recognize his deluded behavior. A legend in his own mind but a joke that has become all too pitiful and no longer funny after too much repetition in the view of others. But, A Happy Holiday Season to all, especially Gareth, I hope you find yourself someday, you've got too much intelligence to waste on that FAQ drivel. Change what you can, recognize what you can't, and move on. W8LNA Article: 95632 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Galen, W8LNA" Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:21:04 GMT Pierian Spring wrote: > What... You can hear Mongolian CB'ers? What kind of antenna are you using? -W8LNA Article: 95633 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Spike Subject: Re: FAQ - the voices in my head told me to post it again Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:31:33 +0000 Message-ID: References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135272698.718441.207390@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135296620.836221.162500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135330256.248735.93250@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <43abc48f$3_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com> realradioham wrote: > >"Pierian Spring" wrote >Do you ever read your own posts? > He must do, as he sometimes replies to them..... from Aero Spike Article: 95634 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "christine" Subject: HV transformer Message-ID: <%dUqf.563$GD6.550@reader1.news.jippii.net> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:54:26 +0200 hi! I just brought home my new HV transformer, which was made to my specifications.: primary 230V 22A secondary two windings, each: 800-1000-1100-1200-1300-1400V at 2A in this way I can connect the windings in parallell or serie for a multipurpose HV power unit from about 110V - 4000V at 2A depending on what tubes I'll use in the amplifier. the transformers weight is about 36kg...(80 pounds) I am right now building a middlepower using one GU84 with tunable vacuumcapacitors and rollercoil.. it's easy to add another one for more power and I don't have to build a new HV power unit :-) at the moment I use this new transformer in my old, small and heavily modified GLA-1000 with 4xPL519 (transformer outside the case on the floor, of course!) as the original transformer is not giving enough power for those tubes. not much left of the original GLA-1000, added 160m etc etc I power the tubes heating with stabilized 40V from a separate transformer as the tubes, which are made for serial heating, are that much different, they get voltages from 39-41V in serial and I wanted tto have 40V for each tube :-) cheers, cb Article: 95635 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Chaney" References: <1135342081.128309.88930@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135342823.301353.241710@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A Merry Solstice To All Our Readers Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:58:23 GMT I too like Gareth...he never switches allegiance on a whim...and I think he says what's on his mind...even if most of us don't agree with him... Merry Christmas whoever you are this week... -- Chaney Chaney's World www.chaney.i12.com "Galen, W8LNA" wrote in message news:KaTqf.197$qg.133@news02.roc.ny... > MuppetMaster wrote: >> ... I do believe you (Gareth) are a good >> egg. > > I don't think he is, I think he's someone who finds himself unhappy with > his lot in life and instead of trying to improve what he can (starting > with himself) he instead denigrates what's around him in a futile attempt > to elevate himself. He draws ridicule like a magnet because he continues > to denigrate after receiving helpful and occasionally nasty suggestions to > recognize his deluded behavior. A legend in his own mind but a joke that > has become all too pitiful and no longer funny after too much repetition > in the view of others. > > But, > A Happy Holiday Season to all, especially Gareth, I hope you find yourself > someday, you've got too much intelligence to waste on that FAQ drivel. > > Change what you can, recognize what you can't, and move on. > > W8LNA Article: 95636 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "tox" References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the Mongolian Hordes of CBers shout them down. Message-ID: <0WUqf.50750$uR.1645@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 15:42:52 GMT wrote in message news:1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > > > The callsign of the subject of this article, which is a source of > embarrassment to all real radio amateurs, is G4SDW. Mr Evans is not a > newcomer to this hobby, but an old-timer licensee of more than 30 > years! AIUI, he certainly has not held a class A licence for thirty years. Did it not take him 10 years to pass the "simple" Morse test? Regards tox Article: 95637 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Bill Turner Subject: Re: HV transformer Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:01:44 -0800 Message-ID: <79boq197q2758gook07jq6q2mdcarr98p5@4ax.com> References: <%dUqf.563$GD6.550@reader1.news.jippii.net> ORIGINAL MESSAGE: On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:54:26 +0200, "christine" wrote: > >in this way I can connect the windings in parallell or >series ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Be careful when connecting the windings in series. The increased voltage may be more than the insulation can handle unless you specified it that way. 73, Bill W6WRT Article: 95638 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Nedlar Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the Mongolian Hordes of CBers shout them down. Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:21:05 +0000 Message-ID: <4ecoq19n2v3acrhu9tk1hf965qvomh8u7s@4ax.com> References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WUqf.50750$uR.1645@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 15:42:52 GMT, "tox" wrote: >AIUI, he certainly has not held a class A licence for thirty years. Did it >not take him 10 years to pass the "simple" Morse test? > >Regards >tox > Would that be the same Morse test that you could NEVER pass? Merry Christmas, Baldy. Article: 95639 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Nedlar Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the Mongolian Hordes of CBers shout them down. Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:22:01 +0000 Message-ID: References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WUqf.50750$uR.1645@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 15:48:15 -0000, "huLLy" wrote: >tox wrote: >> wrote in message >> news:1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> >>> The callsign of the subject of this article, which is a source of >>> embarrassment to all real radio amateurs, is G4SDW. Mr Evans is not a >>> newcomer to this hobby, but an old-timer licensee of more than 30 >>> years! >> >> AIUI, he certainly has not held a class A licence for thirty years. >> Did it not take him 10 years to pass the "simple" Morse test? >> > >Yes, but he conveniently forgets this fact, as well as many other things! > Would that be the same Morse test that you could NEVER pass? Article: 95640 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "tox" References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WUqf.50750$uR.1645@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net> <4ecoq19n2v3acrhu9tk1hf965qvomh8u7s@4ax.com> Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the Mongolian Hordes of CBers shout them down. Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 18:14:52 GMT "Nedlar" wrote in message news:4ecoq19n2v3acrhu9tk1hf965qvomh8u7s@4ax.com... >> > > Would that be the same Morse test that you could NEVER pass? If you continue to practice, I figure in another 20 years, you may reach 5 WPM. HTH tox Article: 95641 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:26:58 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Question regarding the AADE L/C meter Message-ID: <27c36$43a35b55$4232bd07$32385@COQUI.NET> Scratching my head again... This is specific to the AADE unit. I've got a coil of about 5mH. If I use the C function of the AADE I get a reading in the range of 25 pf. Am I seeing the actual interwinding capacitance here or is the combination with inductance goofing on the measurement circuit that this device utilizes? If it helps anyone get a "feel" for the amount of capacitance of this coil its about 175 turns, #37-ish loosely scatterwound in about 1.5" diameter, 1/8" wide and high. TIA, Bill WX4A/KP4 Article: 95642 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "christine" References: <%dUqf.563$GD6.550@reader1.news.jippii.net> <79boq197q2758gook07jq6q2mdcarr98p5@4ax.com> Subject: Re: HV transformer Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 22:08:33 +0200 hi! thanks for the remark! the two windings are actually wound separately on an "O" core and specified to be used both in serial and paralell connection.' cheers, cb "Bill Turner" > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:54:26 +0200, "christine" > >>in this way I can connect the windings in parallell or >>series > Be careful when connecting the windings in series. The increased > voltage may be more than the insulation can handle unless you > specified it that way. Article: 95643 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Wiggy Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WUqf.50750$uR.1645@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net> <4ecoq19n2v3acrhu9tk1hf965qvomh8u7s@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 20:49:42 GMT Nedlar wrote: > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 15:42:52 GMT, "tox" wrote: > > >>AIUI, he certainly has not held a class A licence for thirty years. Did it >>not take him 10 years to pass the "simple" Morse test? >> >>Regards >>tox >> > > > Would that be the same Morse test that you could NEVER pass? > > Merry Christmas, Baldy. So, Mr Nedlar (obsolete). At some time in your obsolete life you took some time out to pass an obsolete test so that you could PLAY with some obsolete code and with no doubt some obsolete radio equipment? You must be so proud! Merry whatever floats your boat. Wiggy Article: 95644 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "tox" References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WUqf.50750$uR.1645@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net> <4ecoq19n2v3acrhu9tk1hf965qvomh8u7s@4ax.com> <1135371607.854994.256430@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the Mongolian Hordes of CBers shout them down. Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 21:05:46 GMT "Pierian Spring" wrote in message news:1135371607.854994.256430@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Eric - once you've made the grade (Yes, we can even arrange a 12WPM > Morse test for you) then you're in a position to comment. Will it take him 10 years to pass the test though? tox Article: 95645 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Nedlar Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the Mongolian Hordes of CBers shout them down. Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 21:38:27 +0000 Message-ID: References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WUqf.50750$uR.1645@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:29:59 -0000, "huLLy" wrote: >Nedlar wrote: >> >> Would that be the same Morse test that you could NEVER pass? > > >I expect you will insist on paying for your license annually when they will >be free for life! Just the kind of stupid answer a lazy-arsed CBr G7 would utter. Article: 95646 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Nedlar Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the Mongolian Hordes of CBers shout them down. Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 21:41:10 +0000 Message-ID: References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WUqf.50750$uR.1645@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net> <4ecoq19n2v3acrhu9tk1hf965qvomh8u7s@4ax.com> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 18:14:52 GMT, "tox" wrote: > >"Nedlar" wrote in message >news:4ecoq19n2v3acrhu9tk1hf965qvomh8u7s@4ax.com... >>> >> >> Would that be the same Morse test that you could NEVER pass? > >If you continue to practice, I figure in another 20 years, you may reach 5 >WPM. > >HTH >tox In 20 years I'll have snuffed it, Baldy. Why don't you tell us why you were so lazy that you never attempted a Morse test? Not interested in HF eh? Bwahahahahahaha Bald tosser. Article: 95647 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Nedlar Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the Mongolian Hordes of CBers shout them down. Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 21:45:25 +0000 Message-ID: References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WUqf.50750$uR.1645@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net> <4ecoq19n2v3acrhu9tk1hf965qvomh8u7s@4ax.com> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 20:49:42 GMT, Wiggy wrote: > >So, Mr Nedlar (obsolete). At some time in your obsolete life you took >some time out to pass an obsolete test so that you could PLAY with some >obsolete code and with no doubt some obsolete radio equipment? > >You must be so proud! > >Merry whatever floats your boat. > >Wiggy WRONG! I took the test that was required for me to get a licence ( only one class then). What I didn't do was wait until standards had been dumbed down to a level that allowed idiots like you onto the amateur bands. As for obselescence...well what are all these Morse signals I hear? Perhaps we should abolish voice comms eh? After all, that's almost as old as Morse. Article: 95648 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Wiggy Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WUqf.50750$uR.1645@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net> <4ecoq19n2v3acrhu9tk1hf965qvomh8u7s@4ax.com> <1135371607.854994.256430@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <3e_qf.13979$iz3.12806@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 21:45:35 GMT Pierian Spring wrote: > Eric Williams, M3EJO, both in his current incarnation, and in his > previous incarnation of "Micky Taker", illustrates so well why > anybody who holds, or who has ever held, a licence issued under > the gangrenous degeneration that is the M3/CB Fools' Licence > scheme will _NEVER_ make it into the ranks of _REAL_ Radio > Hams with their gentlemanly traditions. Having failed to make > any grade other than that intended for 6-year-olds, he sneers > like a playground loser at his betters who have achieved > qualifications that he so dismally failed to acheive in the 20, or so, > years that he pretended to have an interest. > > Eric - once you've made the grade (Yes, we can even arrange a 12WPM > Morse test for you) then you're in a position to comment. > > Until then, you're just a poor loser. > > Grow up. > Ah! But I can walk 25 metres on stilts. So who's the loser now? Wiggy 2E0ECW "Perversely, the Novice RAE is a higher technical challenge than the RAE!" - (C) Gareth Alun Evans 1996 Article: 95649 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Nedlar Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the Mongolian Hordes of CBers shout them down. Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 21:47:12 +0000 Message-ID: References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WUqf.50750$uR.1645@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net> <4ecoq19n2v3acrhu9tk1hf965qvomh8u7s@4ax.com> <1135371607.854994.256430@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 21:05:46 GMT, "tox" wrote: > >"Pierian Spring" wrote in message >news:1135371607.854994.256430@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> >> Eric - once you've made the grade (Yes, we can even arrange a 12WPM >> Morse test for you) then you're in a position to comment. > >Will it take him 10 years to pass the test though? > >tox > Or will he take you example and avoid it altogether? Lazy-arsed CBr you are, Baldy. Article: 95650 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: class-a-pkearn-zuuzpk@multi-band-cb-is-here---its-as-easy-as-they-say.br.eircom.ie.net (zYYPK) Subject: Re: Pepper And Salt - Re Gareth Alun Evans G4ASW Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:12:13 GMT Message-ID: <43a4007e.569807@news.iol.ie> References: <1134752578.139108.150450@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Micky Taker wrote: > Gareth ____ _____ - G4ASW i'm sure g4asw will have something to say ! Article: 95651 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: class-a-pkearn-zuuzpk@multi-band-cb-is-here---its-as-easy-as-they-say.br.eircom.ie.net (zYYPK) Subject: Re: Pepper And Salt - Re Gareth Alun Evans G4ASW Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:13:28 GMT Message-ID: <43a400bc.631862@news.iol.ie> References: <1134752578.139108.150450@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Micky Taker wrote: > My humble apologies to G4ASW. Don't know where that came from, but I'm > going to play the dyslexia card here. Either that or I was pi**ed. doh! mickey taker takes a nose dive. which is hard to do when flying so low in the first place ! Article: 95652 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Nedlar Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the Mongolian Hordes of CBers shout them down. Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 21:51:32 +0000 Message-ID: References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WUqf.50750$uR.1645@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 21:42:35 -0000, "huLLy" wrote: >The only degree you have is in stupidity. > >Merry Christmas. But I managed a 12wpm Morse test. You couldn't manage it. I have a G3 call while you have a G7. I managed a proper written test and proper Morse test...you didn't. Article: 95653 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Me Subject: Re: Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 21:52:20 +0000 Message-ID: References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135272698.718441.207390@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135296620.836221.162500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135330256.248735.93250@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135330662.932422.39500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135351666.980623.27510@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135352383.011475.106370@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135370200.466793.250570@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Pierian Spring wrote: > At one time, Wood & Douglas was a respectable supplier At one time I wonder if this company was respectable OUT & ABOUT SYSTEMS LTD 13 HARDENS CLOSE CHIPPENHAM WILTSHIRE SN153AA Std. Industrial Classification (SIC):7372 Prepackaged software 72.20 COMPUTER SERVICES Turnover:0 Profit:0 Networth:0 Employees:0 Company Registration Number:3144797 Article: 95654 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Nedlar Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the Mongolian Hordes of CBers shout them down. Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 21:52:45 +0000 Message-ID: References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WUqf.50750$uR.1645@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net> <4ecoq19n2v3acrhu9tk1hf965qvomh8u7s@4ax.com> <1135371607.854994.256430@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <3e_qf.13979$iz3.12806@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 21:45:35 GMT, Wiggy wrote: > >Ah! But I can walk 25 metres on stilts. So who's the loser now? > >Wiggy >2E0ECW I can do at least 50mtrs while having a 30wpm Morse contact. Article: 95655 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Wiggy Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WUqf.50750$uR.1645@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net> <4ecoq19n2v3acrhu9tk1hf965qvomh8u7s@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 22:01:12 GMT Nedlar wrote: > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 20:49:42 GMT, Wiggy wrote: > > > >>So, Mr Nedlar (obsolete). At some time in your obsolete life you took >>some time out to pass an obsolete test so that you could PLAY with some >>obsolete code and with no doubt some obsolete radio equipment? >> >>You must be so proud! >> >>Merry whatever floats your boat. >> >>Wiggy > > > WRONG! > I took the test that was required for me to get a licence ( only one > class then). What I didn't do was wait until standards had been dumbed > down to a level that allowed idiots like you onto the amateur bands. Good job! Because you would probably fail now! > As for obselescence...well what are all these Morse signals I hear? What you hear is _amateurs_ "playing" with Morse code and radios! > Perhaps we should abolish voice comms eh? After all, that's almost as > old as Morse. You or "we" are not in a position to abolish anything. Even so, that's the way it's going. In the future it may be impossible to copy any signal without the appropriate decoding system. Wiggy 2E0ECW Vorsprung Durk Teknik! Article: 95656 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Nedlar Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the Mongolian Hordes of CBers shout them down. Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 22:03:52 +0000 Message-ID: <4rsoq1l6cln83edtovjs8l9cc4riqu78dg@4ax.com> References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WUqf.50750$uR.1645@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net> <08SdnQ3wG-V27zHeRVnysQ@giganews.com> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 21:58:02 -0000, "huLLy" wrote: > >I do apologise for not being born 50 years earlier! Silly Me! >I still don't use HF (except in a professional capacity), I still have no >interest in morse, and it really doesn't bother me. Why does it bother you >so? It bothers me because you are a lazy-arsed CBr who thinks he is a radio amateur. It is your type that has turned amateur radio into multi-band CB. Anyway it's time for me to pound the key for a while, so no more replies tonight. Article: 95657 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "tox" References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WUqf.50750$uR.1645@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net> <08SdnQ3wG-V27zHeRVnysQ@giganews.com> Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the Mongolian Hordes of CBers shout them down. Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 22:05:05 GMT "huLLy" wrote in message news:08SdnQ3wG-V27zHeRVnysQ@giganews.com... > > I do apologise for not being born 50 years earlier! Silly Me! > I still don't use HF (except in a professional capacity), I still have no > interest in morse, and it really doesn't bother me. Why does it bother you > so? Ignore the doddering old fart, he's just wind and piss... Regards tox Article: 95658 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Wiggy Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WUqf.50750$uR.1645@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net> <08SdnQ3wG-V27zHeRVnysQ@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 22:10:50 GMT huLLy wrote: > tox wrote: > >>"huLLy" wrote in message >>news:08SdnQ3wG-V27zHeRVnysQ@giganews.com... >> >> >>>I do apologise for not being born 50 years earlier! Silly Me! >>>I still don't use HF (except in a professional capacity), I still >>>have no interest in morse, and it really doesn't bother me. Why does >>>it bother you so? >> >> >>Ignore the doddering old fart, he's just wind and piss... >> > > > That's why I won't buy SK gear! Why not? Most of it is unused! :-) Wiggy Article: 95659 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Wiggy Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WUqf.50750$uR.1645@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net> <08SdnQ3wG-V27zHeRVnysQ@giganews.com> <4rsoq1l6cln83edtovjs8l9cc4riqu78dg@4ax.com> Message-ID: <6F_qf.13998$iz3.10017@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 22:14:26 GMT Nedlar wrote: > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 21:58:02 -0000, "huLLy" wrote: > > > >>I do apologise for not being born 50 years earlier! Silly Me! >>I still don't use HF (except in a professional capacity), I still have no >>interest in morse, and it really doesn't bother me. Why does it bother you >>so? > > > It bothers me because you are a lazy-arsed CBr who thinks he is a > radio amateur. It is your type that has turned amateur radio into > multi-band CB. > Anyway it's time for me to pound the key for a while, so no more > replies tonight. Don't you mean "bash the bishop"? Wiggy 3 mistresses and 14 love children! Article: 95660 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: nospam@here.invalid Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the Mongolian Hordes of CBers shout them down. Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 22:28:32 +0000 Message-ID: <4buoq1hqse456ov3u1llqf2umgh94rffir@4ax.com> References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WUqf.50750$uR.1645@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net> Nedlar wrote: >But I managed a 12wpm Morse test.... >I have a G3... >I managed a proper written test and proper Morse test... What suffering they have caused you. Poor you. Article: 95661 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: class-a-pkearn-zuuzpk@multi-band-cb-is-here---its-as-easy-as-they-say.br.eircom.ie.net (zYYPK) Subject: Re: If the answer's, "M3", it must be a bloody silly question! Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:02:14 GMT Message-ID: <43ac81d9.949176@news.iol.ie> References: <1135154062.667473.109580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <40tm8iF1bp5e0U1@individual.net> <1135202440.809264.313710@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43aae79e.1194761@news.iol.ie> "huLLy" wrote: > > there you go again... > > giving a green light to all and sundry to mention your own wife BY > > NAME !! > > No, it was already in the public domain, mention by Gareth himself many a wrong ! i'm sure another on here will confirm. Article: 95662 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: class-a-pkearn-zuuzpk@multi-band-cb-is-here---its-as-easy-as-they-say.br.eircom.ie.net (zYYPK) Subject: Re: FAQ - revised version Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:07:20 GMT Message-ID: <43ac82e7.1219040@news.iol.ie> References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135242601.245634.261180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135245362.058528.81080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135245779.351638.228770@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135247807.624407.200900@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1135270656.287807.255580@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "huLLy" wrote: > . YOU are the guilty man. YOU are the oh ? has hully become judge&jury in the last few days ? (rest of post cut due to strong legal content) From The Faerie Queen aka ZPK Sat Dec 24 02:29:34 EST 2005 Article: 95663 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Walter Raleigh Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Tool Talk Organization: Raleigh Potato and Tobacco Farms Inc. Reply-To: The Faerie Queen aka ZPK Message-ID: References: <43a3294a.15803484@news.blueyonder.co.uk> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 11 Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:30:18 +0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.41.152.52 X-Complaints-To: abuse@eircom.net X-Trace: news.indigo.ie 1134844196 86.41.152.52 (Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:29:56 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:29:56 GMT Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator2-sterling.newsfeeds.com!in.nntp.be!zen.net.uk!dedekind.zen.co.uk!stargate.gts.cz!news.freedom2surf.net!peernews.inweb.co.uk!news.mediascape.de!newsfeed2.scan-plus.net!news.germany.com!multikabel.net!feed20.multikabel.net!surfnet.nl!surfnet.nl!feeder.news.heanet.ie!news.indigo.ie!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:95663 uk.radio.amateur:257886 On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:29:01 GMT, "tox" blurted forth into cyberspace: >Who's going to explain this to ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzpk, >Walter? I gather that Z is something of an authority on tools ;-) -- 73s de Walter R. Article: 95664 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "DieSea" References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WUqf.50750$uR.1645@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net> Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the Mongolian Hordes of CBers shout them down. Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:39:14 -0000 Message-ID: <43ac8a9c$0$29573$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk> > But I managed a 12wpm Morse test. You couldn't manage it. > I have a G3 call while you have a G7. > I managed a proper written test and proper Morse test...you didn't. No doubt a REGURGITATED G3 call You talk like a CRETIN not like a Respected G3 DieSea Article: 95665 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Casual Fool Subject: Re: damaged collins filter? Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:14:05 -0500 Message-ID: References: <27Mof.1557$aS5.297@bignews4.bellsouth.net> On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:06:46 -0500, Ken Scharf wrote: >I have a new in the original box F455N20 collins filter >(from R390A) that I got at a hamfest many years ago >and stored it away for a 'future project'. > >I dug it out recently and was examining it when I noticed >that as I rotated it in my hand I could feel something >inside shifting back and forth. I never noticed this >before (the filter was NEVER dropped in my care and >has remained packed in the original packing material >all this time). Is this normal for this type of filter >or might the unit be defective? Hi Ken, I had a similar problem with an F455 XXXX 05 mechanical filter for a 75S-3B/C receiver. When I would switch it in, the insertion loss was 20 dB plus. Since I figured I had nothing to lose, I carefully took the filter apart, and as I recall, there are three wires that are spot welded to a row of resonating discs, and my filter had some busted connections on one row of the resonating discs. I knew I could not fix the filter, per say, but since I bought the 75S3-B from the original owner, he could have very well dropped the filter, and then installed it... I propose this for your filter. Since I haven't taken apart a R390A filter, plug the thing in, and see if there is any insertion loss. It may be that in your filter, which I presume is in a round package, like a 75A-4, was affixed on either end, where the input and output transformer(s) connect to the resonating discs, may have been held in place with some foam or glue to keep the discs from moving. I have seen in some Japanese mechanical filters they use a foam substance that degrades over the years, however, I'm not sure on the R390A filter.. So, plug the darn thing in a good working receiver, and see if it works.. If its busted, then you've only wasted a few minutes.. If your in dire straits, and need a new filter, or a used NOS filter, there are plenty out there.. BTW, I haven't known or heard of anyone that has really fixed a Collins Mechanical Filter with busted resonating discs where the stadia wire has broken loose from the discs... Good Luck OM es Best 73.. Tony WB8MLA, near Cleveland, OH... Article: 95666 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Dr. Anton T. Squeegee Subject: Re: My amateur radio stations - make requests for songs and many more! Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:27:03 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1135368232.511709.202040@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> In article <1135368232.511709.202040@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, radioimpress@yahoo.com says... > Spend some time listening online to my radio station - > www.RadioImpress.hit.bg . You can request some songs and post a > dedication with your own voice! Well, if that doesn't sound much What you're describing has less than nothing to do with the Amateur Radio Service, at least as it is defined by Section 97.1 -- 'Basis and Purpose' of the FCC regs. I suggest you examine this link, then find a more appropriate newsgroup. http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/news/part97/ *PLONK!* -- Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute. (Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR, kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm -- www.bluefeathertech.com "If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?" Article: 95667 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Dr. Anton T. Squeegee Subject: Re: why must ham radio have clases of liecen what tdo we get except the devisive bullshit arists Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:30:04 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1135154062.667473.109580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135155062.239261.199920@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135155412.339697.84900@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135156326.594787.238510@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135172801.959020.135660@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135178244.602193.112510@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> In article <1135178244.602193.112510@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, radio.ham@lycos.co.uk says... > Pierian Spring Oh, look... Airy-head's got a new morph... *PLONK!* -- Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute. (Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR, kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm -- www.bluefeathertech.com "If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?" Article: 95668 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Subject: Re: Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute From: Stuart Crow References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135272698.718441.207390@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135296620.836221.162500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135330256.248735.93250@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135330662.932422.39500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135351666.980623.27510@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135352383.011475.106370@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135370200.466793.250570@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:36:33 GMT "Pierian Spring" wrote in news:1135370200.466793.250570@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > At one time, Wood & Douglas was a respectable supplier to the > Ham Radio market, although it has long since devoted itself > to commercial markets only. Given the representation of Amateur Radio given by one contributor to these NGs, it's a wonder any sensible professional organisation has anything to do with it. The professional engineer, and many overseas Amateurs, must suspect that the rot set into British Amateur Radio some time late in the G4 series, and could be forgiven for avoiding contact with it as far as possible. W&D's reputation has probably never stood higher. Professionals understand that; some Amateurs can't even tune up an FT101 properly. How technically inept must they be? Article: 95669 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "jim.gm4dhj" References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135272698.718441.207390@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135296620.836221.162500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135330256.248735.93250@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135330662.932422.39500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135351666.980623.27510@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135352383.011475.106370@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135370200.466793.250570@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135408546.866424.72730@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 07:31:59 GMT > As a late G4 callsign, Yur deed ? ....... Article: 95670 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Brian Reay" References: <1135296620.836221.162500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135330256.248735.93250@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135330662.932422.39500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135351666.980623.27510@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135352383.011475.106370@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135370200.466793.250570@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135384755.574240.63330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135385840.962577.196350@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 09:02:00 GMT "Walt Davidson" wrote in message news:rp2qq1pvsooqjkl9pefjj7uqdtji2d0261@4ax.com... > On 23 Dec 2005 16:57:21 -0800, mike@g4kfk.co.uk wrote: > >>It's a shame, but the reality is that us radio hams are congenital >>tightwads! > > It is significant, is it not, that the only people who make this > allegation are those who have been involved (or still are) in the > business of making money out of selling equipment to the said "radio > hams". I have heard this complaint innumerable times from failed > amateur radio traders ... with whom this country is awash. You don't listen to many amateur then Walt. A definite trait of the radio amateur is "short arms and deep pockets"- a positive trait in my view but still worthy of a bit of mirth. I like a bargain as much as the next man and (re)using a bit of "junk" to repair or make something is far more pleasing than flashing the credit card. -- 73 Brian www.g8osn.org.uk Article: 95671 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Subject: Re: Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute From: Stuart Crow References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135272698.718441.207390@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135296620.836221.162500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135330256.248735.93250@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135330662.932422.39500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135351666.980623.27510@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135352383.011475.106370@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135370200.466793.250570@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135408546.866424.72730@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 09:17:38 GMT "G4ZWI" wrote in news:1135408546.866424.72730 @g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > As a late G4 callsign, and therefore, it seems, being responsible for > the rot I don't see why you'd draw that conclusion, Fred, since my post clearly referred to one particular contributor. Rot generally takes time to spread, and starts out with a small area of contamination. There are still some good people coming into the hobby even now judging from the bands. > (P.S. I believe Santa Claus is bringing me a Yaesu FT817, with c.w. > filter for Christmas. Should I send it back???) That ain't going to warm a cold shack much at this time of year - I'd rather have a nice L7 or a TL922. Merry Xmas! Article: 95672 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Nedlar Subject: Re: FAQ - Repeated because the issues are too important to let the Mongolian Hordes of CBers shout them down. Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 09:49:09 +0000 Message-ID: <2c6qq15qpursvh01j79vh81gi615v3777h@4ax.com> References: <1135346113.085610.124590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135347510.700600.108500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WUqf.50750$uR.1645@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net> <43ac8a9c$0$29573$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:39:14 -0000, "DieSea" wrote: > >> But I managed a 12wpm Morse test. You couldn't manage it. >> I have a G3 call while you have a G7. >> I managed a proper written test and proper Morse test...you didn't. > > >No doubt a REGURGITATED G3 call > >You talk like a CRETIN not like a Respected G3 > >DieSea > The brain-dead CBr reveals himself.... Article: 95673 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Brian Reay" References: <1135330662.932422.39500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135351666.980623.27510@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135352383.011475.106370@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135370200.466793.250570@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135384755.574240.63330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135385840.962577.196350@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 10:18:25 GMT "Walt Davidson" wrote in message news:o27qq1h208t6haf2pes4j0gqhm5rjr8sih@4ax.com... > On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 09:02:00 GMT, "Brian Reay" > wrote: > >>"Walt Davidson" wrote: >>> On 23 Dec 2005 16:57:21 -0800, mike@g4kfk.co.uk wrote: >>> >>>>It's a shame, but the reality is that us radio hams are congenital >>>>tightwads! >>> >>> It is significant, is it not, that the only people who make this >>> allegation are those who have been involved (or still are) in the >>> business of making money out of selling equipment to the said "radio >>> hams". I have heard this complaint innumerable times from failed >>> amateur radio traders ... with whom this country is awash. >> >>You don't listen to many amateur then Walt. A definite trait of the radio >>amateur is "short arms and deep pockets"- a positive trait in my view but >>still worthy of a bit of mirth. I like a bargain as much as the next man >>and >>(re)using a bit of "junk" to repair or make something is far more pleasing >>than flashing the credit card. > > I quite agree, Brian ... but there is a world of difference between > being "a congenital tightwad" and merely being a prudent spender! Surely the best accolade a "prudent spender" can receive is to be called "a congenital tightwad" ;-) -- 73 Brian www.g8osn.org.uk Article: 95674 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: sKhully Subject: Re: If the answer's, "M3", it must be a bloody silly question! Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 10:27:49 +0000 Message-ID: <1e8qq1lifg18lcrid91o5qoc9b6r2png3i@4ax.com> References: <1135154062.667473.109580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <40tm8iF1bp5e0U1@individual.net> <1135202440.809264.313710@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43aae79e.1194761@news.iol.ie> <43ac81d9.949176@news.iol.ie> <1135408212.958607.192550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> On 23 Dec 2005 23:10:13 -0800, "Pierian Spring" wrote: >I have _NEVER_ mentioned my wife's name in this NG, nor that of >my children, nor that of my grandchildren. > That's it I'm getting out of Wiltshire, 'Beanie' has been allowed to breed, the thought of dueling banjo's, and little genetic misfires populating the county is the last straw !!! Article: 95675 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "DieSea" References: <1135296620.836221.162500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135330256.248735.93250@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135330662.932422.39500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135351666.980623.27510@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135352383.011475.106370@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135370200.466793.250570@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135384755.574240.63330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135385840.962577.196350@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 10:57:25 -0000 Message-ID: <43ad2992$0$29575$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk> > 73 de G3NYY [VERY careful with his money!] Ok Wlat Sew you showed the ScotchMan how to weld his sporran up And Super glue for the Yorkshiremans wallet to boot Happy Crimbo All Well to all that's not in my KillFile DieSea Article: 95676 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI Subject: Re: FAQ - revised version References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135242601.245634.261180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135245362.058528.81080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135370509.748923.7290@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1135374846.000671.83930@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135418934.958101.120670@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:52:12 GMT Pierian Spring of verbal diarrhoea wrote: > But since you raise the issue, if they are, indeed, scouts > and are over the age of 11 years, and they have had to put > in "hard work" to pass an exam intended for 6-year-olds, > then they are not achievers but retards. > and since, I believe, _YOU_ sat the RAE when in your twenties what does that make _YOU_ ? A super retard? To use your words, 'GROW UP, MR EVANS.' Alternatively, FOAD. ...(_!_)... Article: 95677 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Mike Clayton Subject: Re: Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 13:20:17 +0000 Message-ID: References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In message <1135409160.924250.216800@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.co >Don't you realise how silly and ridiculous you make yourself >look, by indulging in what are essentially very infantile >abusive tirades in an international forum that is broadcast to >the whole world? > Perhaps you should ask yourself the same question? -- Mike Clayton 'For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing' http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton Article: 95678 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "James F. Mayer" Subject: Halicrafters S-40B Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 14:57:11 GMT Does any one know where I could obtain a copy of a manual and/or schematic for my S40B. It did work at one time but now it won't. There seems to be voltage on the antenna terminal and I don't think that is a good sign. Article: 95679 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Caveat Lector" References: Subject: Re: Halicrafters S-40B Manual Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 07:10:53 -0800 FreeBees see BAMA at http://bama.sbc.edu/hallicra.htm And maybe Nostalgia Air Vintage Radio References http://www.nostalgiaair.org/ If not lots of manual vendors can supply them See URL: http://ac6v.com/manuals.htm -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "James F. Mayer" wrote in message news:bldrf.9283$3Z.3158@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > Does any one know where I could obtain a copy of a manual and/or schematic > for my S40B. It did work at one time but now it won't. There seems to be > voltage on the antenna terminal and I don't think that is a good sign. > > > Article: 95680 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Dale Parfitt" Subject: Amidon Cores?? Message-ID: <1Qdrf.4544$x%2.3558@trnddc06> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:30:05 GMT Does someone here know who manufatcures the ferrite and powdered iron cores for Amidon, Tnx, Dale W4OP Article: 95681 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Paul M0EME" References: <43ab1533$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com> Subject: Re: help with a transformer Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:53:43 -0000 Message-ID: <43ad6f22$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com> thanks to the people that replied, all sorted now "Paul M0EME" wrote in message news:43ab1533$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com... > Hi all, Im using the transformer from a Bremi BRL500 linear to make a ham > HF linear using four EL519 valves. I need to identify the leads coming > from the transformer, I bought the transformer surplus so have no data > with it.... > Also has anyone got any EL519 valves they will sell.... > > Thankyou > > -- > > > > Thanks and 73's de Paul M0EME > 432MHz EME 4 times FO19, > FT847, > MGF1302, > 100 Watts at feed, > Spectran. > Initials 432MHz #2 CW #4 JT65 > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/m0eme > > Article: 95682 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI Subject: Re: Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute References: <1135241252.682964.182400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135272698.718441.207390@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135296620.836221.162500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135330256.248735.93250@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135330662.932422.39500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135351666.980623.27510@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135352383.011475.106370@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135370200.466793.250570@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:04:37 GMT on 23/12/2005 21:52 Me said the following: > Pierian Spring wrote: > >> At one time, Wood & Douglas was a respectable supplier > > > At one time I wonder if this company was respectable > > OUT & ABOUT SYSTEMS LTD > 13 HARDENS CLOSE > CHIPPENHAM WILTSHIRE > SN153AA > > Std. Industrial Classification (SIC):7372 Prepackaged software > 72.20 COMPUTER SERVICES > Turnover:0 > Profit:0 > Networth:0 > Employees:0 > Company Registration Number:3144797 http://tinyurl.com/as56c I wonder what Company he's using for his sub-contracting in Portsmouth, and what tax arrangements have Bean made? -- ;-) 73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint. http://turner-smith.co.uk Article: 95683 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: HV transformer References: <%dUqf.563$GD6.550@reader1.news.jippii.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:06:47 -0500 christine wrote: > hi! > I just brought home my new HV transformer, which was > made to my specifications.: > > primary 230V 22A > secondary > two windings, each: > 800-1000-1100-1200-1300-1400V at 2A > > in this way I can connect the windings in parallell or > serie for a multipurpose HV power unit from > about 110V - 4000V at 2A depending on what > tubes I'll use in the amplifier. > the transformers weight is about 36kg...(80 pounds) > > I am right now building a middlepower using > one GU84 with tunable vacuumcapacitors and rollercoil.. > it's easy to add another one for more power and I don't > have to build a new HV power unit :-) > > at the moment I use this new transformer in my old, small and heavily > modified GLA-1000 with 4xPL519 (transformer outside the case on the floor, > of course!) > as the original transformer is not giving enough power for those tubes. > not much left of the original GLA-1000, added 160m etc etc > > I power the tubes heating with stabilized 40V from a separate transformer > as the tubes, which are made for serial heating, are that much different, > they get voltages from 39-41V in serial and I wanted tto have 40V for > each tube :-) > > cheers, > > cb > > > > > > WoW some transformer! That one will do a full gallon and then some without breaking a sweat! I hate to ask what it cost! Sounds like a universal replacement for any tube linear. Article: 95684 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "hugh.g.rekshun" References: <7fplq1lacej8p597fv27610193g3nfrdj2@4ax.com> Subject: Re: MY BASE CB - VK4EGE basestation.jpg Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:28:18 GMT Very nice, an old but cracking set, see you have a quality 'dave made' amp..one of the best so i've heard. anymore shack pics/antennas ?? "GARETH EVANS" wrote in message news:7fplq1lacej8p597fv27610193g3nfrdj2@4ax.com... > _________________________________________ > Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server > More than 140,000 groups > Unlimited download > http://www.usenetzone.com to open account Article: 95685 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) Subject: Re: Unusual functions of cheap parts Date: 24 Dec 2005 16:53:47 GMT Message-ID: References: <4385b3b1$1$27887$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <22dhq1h62jj51unhlqqt1ftklkoll52ldd@4ax.com> Back when one of my tasks at Fluke was to interview college recruits, I was asked to describe my job as an Analog Design Engineer. My answer: "To design precision instruments using cheap, junk parts." A tip of the hat to Norm Strong... Steve. -- Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA