Article: 96736 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Alfred Green Subject: Re: Dead bugs! References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 22:01:11 -0700 Frank enscribed: > This ain't some simple RF amplifier. I meant that ghost communication, > or transdimensional communications, is the next frontier, for those > that are brave enough not to listen to the scientists, skeptics, and > debunkers that will tell you it's impossible because it scares the crap > out of them, or goes against some brain dead theory of how life, and > physics is supposed to be. My apologies for missing the start of this thread, but what is it that you are trying to achieve here? If you are looking for some assistance in building a particular circuit I would certainly like to help. I have been a ham for almost four decades, with a strong tilt towards building rather than operating. My experience with the scientific and skeptic community is that they would actually _LOVE_ to see some real evidence of the paranormal, rather than debunking it as a matter of principle. If you have a workable proposition we could take it to JREF, and collect a nice $1million. I would really like to be able to do that. Let me know, 73 Alf NU8I Scottsdale AZ DM43an Article: 96737 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Asimov" Subject: 4CX250B vs Gi7B families... Message-ID: References: <1140825344.868733.266910@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 05:11:02 GMT "MarkAren" bravely wrote to "All" (24 Feb 06 15:55:44) --- on the heady topic of "4CX250B vs Gi7B families..." Ma> From: "MarkAren" Ma> Xref: core-easynews rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:92120 Ma> Hi Guys, Ma> I am contemplating building a 144MHz power amp and looking at various Ma> options. The obvious solution is a pair of push pull 4CX250Bs. Ma> It appears that the Gi7B and family of Triodes can provide an equally Ma> capable solution. They appear to be much easier to cool, by something Ma> like an Axial Papst Fan (instead of a Snail Blower). The other obvious Ma> advantage is not having to deal with Screen voltage, regulation and Ma> protection. The triodes also look much easier and cheaper to mount Ma> (given the grounded grid). Finally, it seems because of the very low Ma> inter-electrode capacitances, it is quite easy to parallel the Triodes Ma> up as required (even at 432MHz). Ma> So what is the down side for using these Triodes ? Ma> Comments and observations appreciated as usual. Ma> Regards, Ma> Mark. Having never built one I feel completely at ease if you disregard my comments. First thing that comes to mind is in general since triodes have less gain they will require more drive and a lower input Z. That isn't meant to discourage anyone however since triodes are obviously used successfully! Asimov ... Back when I was a boy, we sucked the air out of our own vacuum tubes! Article: 96738 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Mark" Subject: Re: The Weekly FAQ (Reposted after thread was hijacked by the very Childish Broadcasters (CBers) warned against.) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 10:31:55 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1140857035.791153.194860@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1140857716.957288.217710@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Someone please hijack the thread- I could do with a laugh this morning ;) Mark Article: 96739 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Wiggy Subject: Re: Is this the address of a paedophile? (Was : Re: Interested in References: <1140796567.271702.34800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1140807870.537515.192700@t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1140808603.680306.237770@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1140810568.204172.55970@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6dadncKctfv0-WLeRVnyhg@giganews.com> <1140813126.449685.76000@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1140813326.911536.89230@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1140813764.297364.117290@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1140814236.687801.260270@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1140814579.668459.299140@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1140857842.643162.256120@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1140858973.437242.62580@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1140859601.310052.34860@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1140866488.666307.135480@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:53:12 GMT Mike G4KFK wrote: > Three Cheers for PC Fuller! wrote: > >>Stalker boy's at it again... > > > It's sad, isn't it? > > I wonder what happens to him during the week, that could possibly > explain his tetchy behaviour at weekends? Maybe they don't warm the > electrodes up before giving him his ECT? > I think you're on to something here! ECT causes short term memory loss. This could be why he posts the same dross over and over again - he simply forgot that he'd posted it last week! Wiggy Article: 96740 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "The Magnum" Subject: Re: The Weekly FAQ (Reposted after thread was hijacked by the very Childish Broadcasters (CBers) warned against.) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:06:49 -0000 Message-ID: References: <1140857035.791153.194860@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1140857716.957288.217710@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> "Mike G4KFK" wrote in message news:1140857716.957288.217710@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > > Gareth Alun Evans (G4SDW) wrote: > The usual insane drivel... > > You are the very model of a newsgroup personality. > You intersperse stupidity with tedious banality. > Pseudonyms you've plenty of; both genuine and ghosted, too, > On all the countless newsgroups that your drivel is cross-posted to. > Our bandwidth you will fritter with your whining and your snivelling, > And we're the ones who pay the bills, downloading all your drivelling. > Your enemies are numerous, and no-one would be blaming us > For cracking your head open after you've been rudely flaming us. > You hate to lose an argument (by now you should be used to it). > You wouldn't know a valid point if you were introduced to it. > Your learning is extensive but consists of mindless trivia, > Designed to fan your ego, which is larger than Bolivia. > The comments that you vomit forth, disguised as jest and drollery, > Are really just an exercise in unremitting trollery. > You say you're frank and forthright, but that's merely lies and vanity, > The gibberings of one who's on the limits of his sanity. That was reasonably good.... Graham -- -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19 Article: 96741 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "The Magnum" Subject: Re: Interested in _REAL_ Ham Radio? (As opposed to Complete Buffoonery (CB)?) Here's the FAQ for you! Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:06:56 -0000 Message-ID: References: <1140796567.271702.34800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Let's Have a go at answering the inane banter that comes from Mr Evans... "Plod's Conscience" wrote in message news:1140796567.271702.34800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > When reading this, be on the guard against the Cry Baby (CB), > the Cackling Bully (CB) and the Complete Buffoon (CB)! The above abbreviations reveal who really is the childish broadcaster... > What is Ham Radio? > > It is becoming increasingly difficult to fly the flag for > decency and for civilised behaviour in Radio Hammery. With people like you 'encouraging' new people to the hobby is it any wonder? > Even > the Usenet newsgroups dedicated to the cause have degenerated > into a hotbed of abusive onslaughts by those who ought to know better. Agreed. The sense of help and encouragement shown towards all newcomers to the hobby is very lacking. Is it any wonder a few give up and go 'off the rails'... > However, there still exists the fundamental basis on which Ham > Radio is based, and that will never die. This FAQ ("What Is > Ham Radio?") will be regularly published and will not be > shouted or bullied down. It is important that those of a > technical bent, who are the natural seed-corn of Radio Hammery > and who gravitate towards us to be the real novitiate, can > still find us, (and know that we are still here), their fellows. But you blatantly dismiss anyone who dare take that first step into "Hammery" so how can they gravitate towards you? > -----ooooo----- > > Please remember that this FAQ is a _POSITIVE EXHORTATION_ > to you to exert yourselves to join our fraternity! (If you find > otherwise, then perhaps you are already classing yourself in the > mediocre groups of those who are criticised in the FAQ and from > whom we _MUST_ dissociate? If so - it's never too late for > a re-taxonomisation on your part - there's nothing elitist about > us, and we welcome all those who are prepared to put themselves > out in order to join our ranks!) How are beginners expected to "put themselves out? when the only way to "hammery" is through the M3 direction? > -----ooooo----- > So,.....What is Ham Radio? > > Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who > are interested in the science of radio wave > propagation and who are also interested in the > way that their radios function. It has a long-standing > tradition of providing a source of engineers who > are born naturals. > > Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life > fascination with all things technical and gives > an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific > knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in! We do try but then get ridiculed by you... if you were to perhaps fill the pool a little it might be helpful... > This excitement causes a wish to share the experience > with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the > gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio. > > Radio Hams are in a unique privileged position in that > they can construct and operate their own equipment! No-one > else has this privilege. Users, such as broadcasters, > the po lice and armed farces, CBers and mobile phone > users have to purchase ready-made gear. Manufacturers > are not licensed to operate their gear. Radio Hams > are qualified to design, build and then > operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this > with gusto, and also repair and modify their own > equipment. This is a privilege well worth the effort > to gain, and one to be jealously guarded. To be proud of yes but jealously guarded? How are you going to guard it... by demanding Morse be set at 20-30 WPM in_all_classes of "Hammery" > The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with > relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making > his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces > of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal > generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with > the latter that communication with like-minded technically > motivated people takes off. The scope for technical > development grows with the years > and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal > of excitement in the areas of computer programming to > be learnt and applied. A bit like CB really. You start off with a basic package, you get more interested and learn the technical skills to install your own station and some go on to build their own antenna arrays, repair their own radio's and that of friends then some decide to take it a step further into the Amateur radio side of things only to meet up with people like you in the forums who welcome with one hand then dismiss immediately with the other with long winded diatribe... > The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete > with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured > the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing, > competitions and fox-hunts. Just like CB, I remember the fox-hunts we had in the late 70's - early 80's and what fun they were too. I remember also the joys of DX on 11 metres, especially the competitions and the sense of achievement in contacting those far away stations. Seems the two hobbies are similar after all... (How dare I make that comparison eh...) > However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a > desirable thing to have that there are large > numbers of people who wish to be thought of > as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing > of the kind! Usually such people are a > variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their > radios off the shelf and send them back to be > repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion > and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how > their radios work inside and have no wish to find out; Then that is appalling as most CB'ers I know are now Amateurs and are quite respectable too. They have always shown a fascination in radio, in it's DX use and internal workings and antenna from their CB days to today... > they are free with rather silly personal insults; You mean like "Childish Broadcaster" "Cry Baby" "Cackling Bully" "Complete Buffoon" "Criminals" "M3/CB fools" calling men who question them "girls" and so on... yes, very silly... > they have not satisfied any technical qualification > and their licences prevent the use of > self-designed-and-built equipment. You mean they haven't completed a multi-guess ticky box test? Well, unless someone's completed one of those then they obviously must know nothing at all... > These CB types engage in the competitive activities > with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios > in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams. Like probably over 90% of "Full" Licence Amateurs who prefer to build only some bits of kit and have an "off the shelf" radio as their main tool...? > No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people! Are you sure? > One such CB type is the so-called "Not-Ham". Otherwise > known as the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham, this type > had their background in the hobby that is CB Radio and not > in the technical pursuits that lead up to a coveted Ham licence. > Easily recognised by their boasts of the criminal activity of > 11 metre SSB operation, one wonders why they don't go back to > the CB Bands if such bands are dearer in their hearts than are the Ham > Bands? No _REAL Radio Hams associate with those who made an > illegal installation of transmitting equipment before being > in possession of an appropriate licence. Several people even in this group have admitted to installing and using 2 Metre equipment before they actively became Amateurs... and some of these 'illegal's are even teachers of the hobby now... > One infallible way to disambiguate the CB Radio Hobbyist > from the _REAL_ Radio Ham is to solicit their view of the > difference between CB Radio and Ham Radio. A Radio Ham will > perceive Ham Radio to be a technical pursuit and will > perceive CB Radio to be a social communications facility > no different in essence to a land-line telephone No disagreement there... CB radio was devised originally as a "service" for the community to keep in local touch with each other. Then anyone wishing to Advance would learn more and become a licensed Radio Amateur. Pretty straightforward stuff really. > or a > GSM mobile in the hands of a 6-year-old. Thus a Radio Ham > could also hold a CB licence safe in the knowledge that > such a licence says no more about him than having a land-line > telephone, whilst continuing to regard Ham Radio as a separate > technical pursuit. Maybe not separate, but a more advanced hobby yes. With the advent of mobile phones and just about every UK home having a telephone of some description why would a Radio Amateur wish to use a CB as a land-line especially as the average CB set up has only a 5 mile radius? Your argument on this point holds no water. > A CB Radio hobbyist, on the other hand, sees no difference between > a Ham Radio licence and a CB Radio licence. To him, they are > sisters-under-the-skin. Wrongly, the CB Radio Hobbyist then > tries to classify himself as the equal of the Radio > Ham when, in fact, he is nothing of the kind. No CB'er I have ever met or known has ever considered or classed himself as a Radio Ham. Maybe if you had said M3 Licence holder I could agree with you to a point... A sure sign of > a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds, or has ever held, a licence > issued under the gangrenous degeneration that is the > M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme. Floored statement once again. Every prospective Amateur needs to sit the M3 test before he advances (or not) and may have even only held said licence for a couple of weeks to make sure he/she is comfortable with the hobby before moving on... It is the ONLY route into "Hammery" now... > One group of people who claim to be of the standard of > Radio Hams but who are in reality nothing more than an > apology for the failure of a CBer are those class B > licensees who falsely proclaimed that they were against > the use of a Morse Test to control access to the HF > bands, until, that is, a test was introduced at their > intellectual level, the intellectual level of 6-year-olds. Another completely floored argument. Please state how many 6 yr olds hold an M3 or any other radio licence. I bet you could count them on one hand. Just because a 6 yr old 'could' pass the test if he/she is intelligently bright enough doesn't mean any 6 yr old can pass it. At 6 yrs old you are still very very young and immature and as I have said previously, unless the parents who are Amateurs themselves push their siblings into the hobby they certainly wouldn't think of it themselves... And before anyone comes back saying how simple the test is, then yes, for you it would be but not to a 6 yr old. > 6 year-olds simply lack the mathematical tool kit to > enable them to handle even the simplest algebraic manipulation > for Ohm's Law and thus, the disgraceful Class Ber's in > the aforementioned category are not Radio Hams by any stretch > of the imagination! All because they weren't interested in Morse code, that antiquated communication method pre-dating last century and rarely used now apart from by a few 'die hard' Amateurs. It was a different story back in the 40's and 50's. We don't even light beacons anymore to warn of invasion. Time to move into the real world Mr Evans... > Remember - A sure sign of a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds, > or has ever held, a licence issued under the gangrenous > degeneration that is the M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme! No need to comment further here... I would love to see the answers he would give to my questions but I won't hold my breath... He would be too busy thinking up his next diatribe against the police and "not-hams" to concern himself with me... Graham -- -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19 From "know code" Tue Feb 28 21:01:46 EST 2006 Article: 96742 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:06:17 +0100 From: know code Reply-To: "know code" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Subject: Re: Interested in _REAL_ Ham Radio? (As opposed to Complete Buffoonery (CB)?) Here's the FAQ for you! References: <1140796567.271702.34800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 68 Message-ID: <44006459$0$82266$dbd41001@news.wanadoo.nl> Organization: Wanadoo NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Feb 2006 14:06:17 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: s5591cd23.adsl.wanadoo.nl X-Trace: 1140876377 dr3.euro.net 82266 85.145.205.35:4692 X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!news2.euro.net!postnews2.euro.net!news.wanadoo.nl!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu uk.radio.amateur:267626 rec.radio.amateur.policy:256987 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:96742 The Magnum wrote: > How are beginners expected to "put themselves out? when the only way to > "hammery" is through the M3 direction? They can take the tests as that is the route they have to take. But they certainly don't have to lower themselves to actually applying for an M3 callsign! Maybe they could take one of the TWO all day sessions that Brian mentioned and go straight to a Full licence. It's just a shame this facility isn't offered ALL the time. Brian still hasn't given a good answer as to why that facility isn't available ALL the time! > To be proud of yes but jealously guarded? How are you going to guard it... > by demanding Morse be set at 20-30 WPM in_all_classes of "Hammery" That would be a good start. At least we'd get rid of a lot of the chaff that has no intention of progressing up the so-called progressive licensing scheme (a.k.a. an M3 licensee of more than one year). If there had been a 20-30wpm Morse test when they got their M3 farce licence, then they would never have bothered and Amateur Radio would have been a better place as a result. > Just like CB, I remember the fox-hunts we had in the late 70's - early 80's > and what fun they were too. I remember also the joys of DX on 11 metres, > especially the competitions and the sense of achievement in contacting those > far away stations. Seems the two hobbies are similar after all... (How dare > I make that comparison eh...) Just curious.... was that 11M DXing on SSB? Can't really see what excitement there would be trying to DX with 4W of FM! > No disagreement there... CB radio was devised originally as a "service" for > the community to keep in local touch with each other. So, why were you DXing on it if it is only to be used as a local service? > Please state how many 6 yr olds hold an > M3 or any other radio licence. We have been asking Brian and the RSGB to release these non-personal stats for ages but for some reason they always avoid the question. Brian says he would be uncomfortable doing so himself, so why doesn't he with his Board position of "Amateur Radio Development" within RSGB Ltd get them published in RadCom. There really is no good reason why these stats cannot be published unless they are trying to hide something. Another interesting stat would be the percentage of M3s that have progressed any further!! > All because they weren't interested in Morse code, that antiquated > communication method pre-dating last century and rarely used now apart from > by a few 'die hard' Amateurs. You obviously don't listen to the HF bands much then! Morse code is alive and well and is being used by a LOT of people. Take just about any recent DXpedition in the past few years and look at the breakdown of the QSOs regarding CW v SSB. Usually the CW totals are far ahead of the SSB totals. "Rarely used".... you have no idea what you are talking about! Or maybe you just hear all those funny noises at the low ends of the bands and as you don't understand Morse code you are prejudiced against it. Just a wild guess :) >> Remember - A sure sign of a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds, >> or has ever held, a licence issued under the gangrenous >> degeneration that is the M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme! > > No need to comment further here... Why? Do you agree? You've commented on everything else you disagreed with! Article: 96743 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Andy Axnot Subject: Re: Dead bugs! Message-ID: References: Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 14:39:44 GMT On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:32:07 +0000, Frank wrote: > > As far as my ghost receivers, just remember those proclaiming > something is impossible are interupted by someone doing it. Believe > it or not, like it or not, the dead talk! Actually, Frank, some of them read the newsgroups too, though most of them seem to prefer the binary porn groups. Good luck! Andy Article: 96744 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI Subject: Re: Is this the address of a paedophile? (Was : Re: Interested in References: <1140796567.271702.34800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1140807870.537515.192700@t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1140808603.680306.237770@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1140810568.204172.55970@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6dadncKctfv0-WLeRVnyhg@giganews.com> <1140813126.449685.76000@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1140813326.911536.89230@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1140813764.297364.117290@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1140814236.687801.260270@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1140814579.668459.299140@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1140857842.643162.256120@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1140858973.437242.62580@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1140859601.310052.34860@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <7_ZLf.18137$gB4.9321@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 14:38:59 GMT on 25/02/2006 09:26 The Chippenham Village Idiot said the following: > Your ongoing and desperate attempts to sneer > are as infantile as they are wrong. You really are > a sick and silly child. > > http://2ndbracknell.co.uk/DistrictFootball.doc > > http://www.quack.plus.com/Welcome_to_new_members.DOC > > If the mobile number given there is incorrect, then better > for you to change it, or remove the web content. > Oh dear, what's your sudden interest in cubs and scouts, Beanie? Have the sheep learned to fight? ...(_!_)... Article: 96745 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Brian MW3BAU" References: <1140857035.791153.194860@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1140857716.957288.217710@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: The Weekly FAQ (Reposted after thread was hijacked by the very Childish Broadcasters (CBers) warned against.) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:10:14 GMT "Mike G4KFK" wrote in message news:1140857716.957288.217710@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > > Gareth Alun Evans (G4SDW) wrote: > The usual insane drivel... > > You are the very model of a newsgroup personality. > You intersperse stupidity with tedious banality. > Psudonyms you've plenty of; both genuine and ghosted, too, > On all the countless newsgroups that your drivel is cross-posted to. > Our bandwidth you will fritter with your whining and your snivelling, > And we're the ones who pay the bills, downloading all your drivelling. > Your enemies are numerous, and no-one would be blaming us > For cracking your head open after you've been rudely flaming us. > You hate to lose an argument (by now you should be used to it). > You wouldn't know a valid point if you were introduced to it. > Your learning is extensive but consists of mindless trivia, > Designed to fan your ego, which is larger than Bolivia. > The comments that you vomit forth, disguised as jest and drollery, > Are really just an exercise in unremitting trollery. > You say you're frank and forthright, but that's merely lies and vanity, > The gibberings of one who's on the limits of his sanity. > Well Done. Is that the Radio Pirates of Penzance?? Article: 96746 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Unknown Subject: Re: The Weekly FAQ (Reposted after thread was hijacked by the very Childish Broadcasters (CBers) warned against.) Message-ID: References: <1140857035.791153.194860@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:44:51 GMT On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 00:43:55 -0800, Plod's Conscience wrote: > This is reposted because this week's thread was hijacked by the > very Childish Broadcasters (CBers) warned against. Remember that > Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for gentlemen So only people with pricks - that explains a lot! , and not some > mindless operating hobby for Cheque-Book (CB) wielding thickos! > Hmmmmmm ....... Price of CB rig - typical 50 quid. Price of average radio amateur HF+2m+70cm import setup 1000 quid up. He is a troll and he lives in hole ........ From "know code" Tue Feb 28 21:01:47 EST 2006 Article: 96747 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:14:25 +0100 From: know code Reply-To: "know code" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Subject: Re: The Weekly FAQ (Reposted after thread was hijacked by the very Childish Broadcasters (CBers) warned against.) References: <1140857035.791153.194860@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lines: 36 Message-ID: <44009071$0$82266$dbd41001@news.wanadoo.nl> Organization: Wanadoo NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Feb 2006 17:14:26 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: s5591cd23.adsl.wanadoo.nl X-Trace: 1140887666 dr3.euro.net 82266 85.145.205.35:4692 X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!statler.nntpserver.com!news2.euro.net!postnews2.euro.net!news.wanadoo.nl!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu uk.radio.amateur:267672 rec.radio.amateur.policy:257000 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:96747 Unknown wrote: > On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 00:43:55 -0800, Plod's Conscience wrote: >=20 >> This is reposted because this week's thread was hijacked by the >> very Childish Broadcasters (CBers) warned against. Remember that >> Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for gentlemen >=20 > So only people with pricks - that explains a lot! >=20 > , and not some >> mindless operating hobby for Cheque-Book (CB) wielding thickos! >> >=20 >=20 > Hmmmmmm ....... >=20 > Price of CB rig - typical 50 quid. > Price of average radio amateur HF+2m+70cm import setup 1000 quid up. Err, FT817 at Martin Lynch.... =A3448.99. Covers all the bands you=20 mention and not even close to =A31000, in fact, not even half that amount= =2E FT817 gives you access to 17.44MHz of Amateur allocations in any mode=20 for =A3448.99. A typical 80 channel CB gives you access to about 0.8Mhz = in FM only. Price per MHz for the FT817 =3D =A325.74 Price per MHz for the CB =3D =A362.50 No wonder all these CBers are clamouring to get an M3 licence. As they=20 say, it's multi-band and multi-mode CB on the cheap! Article: 96748 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Mike Young" References: Subject: Re: Dead bugs! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:39:48 GMT "Alfred Green" wrote in message news:JxRLf.6026$z82.3895@fed1read07... > My experience with the scientific and skeptic community is that they would > actually _LOVE_ to see some real evidence of the paranormal, rather than > debunking it as a matter of principle. There is some of that, but woe betides those who let their beliefs cloud interpretation of the results. Skeptics and scientists remain first and foremost skeptics and scientists. It would have to be very compelling to even pass a first scrutiny. Article: 96749 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "The Magnum" Subject: Re: Interested in _REAL_ Ham Radio? (As opposed to Complete Buffoonery (CB)?) Here's the FAQ for you! Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 19:01:14 -0000 Message-ID: References: <1140796567.271702.34800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1140807870.537515.192700@t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1140808603.680306.237770@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1140810568.204172.55970@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6dadncKctfv0-WLeRVnyhg@giganews.com> <1140813126.449685.76000@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1140813326.911536.89230@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1140813764.297364.117290@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1140814247.897460.277100@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Did someone mention Gareth Alun Evans 13 Hardens Close Chippenham Wiltshire SN15 3AA 01249 651897 Isn't that just off London Road and quite near the Cemetery ??? -- -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19 Article: 96750 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "The Magnum" Subject: Re: Interested in _REAL_ Ham Radio? (As opposed to Complete Buffoonery (CB)?) Here's the FAQ for you! Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 20:27:05 -0000 Message-ID: References: <1140796567.271702.34800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <44006459$0$82266$dbd41001@news.wanadoo.nl> "know code" wrote in message news:44006459$0$82266$dbd41001@news.wanadoo.nl... > The Magnum wrote: > > > How are beginners expected to "put themselves out? when the only way to > > "hammery" is through the M3 direction? > > They can take the tests as that is the route they have to take. But > they certainly don't have to lower themselves to actually applying for > an M3 callsign! Maybe they could take one of the TWO all day sessions > that Brian mentioned and go straight to a Full licence. It's just a > shame this facility isn't offered ALL the time. Brian still hasn't > given a good answer as to why that facility isn't available ALL the time! Like you say, it isn't available all the time. Also some people have to study to advance as they are new to the hobby and can't do it all in a day. Applying for the callsign gives them the opportunity to self learn on the bands as well as studying for it. I totally agree though that there should be a time limit on M3 licence holders before they are asked to advance or leave the hobby as their indifference isn't in Amateur radio's best interest. > > To be proud of yes but jealously guarded? How are you going to guard it... > > by demanding Morse be set at 20-30 WPM in_all_classes of "Hammery" > > That would be a good start. At least we'd get rid of a lot of the chaff > that has no intention of progressing up the so-called progressive > licensing scheme (a.k.a. an M3 licensee of more than one year). If > there had been a 20-30wpm Morse test when they got their M3 farce > licence, then they would never have bothered and Amateur Radio would > have been a better place as a result. Judging by many peoples comments in the newsgroups and a few Amateurs I have spoken to face to face many feel the hobby would have all but died compared to what it used to be if the insistence of Morse was upheld especially to that degree. > > Just like CB, I remember the fox-hunts we had in the late 70's - early 80's > > and what fun they were too. I remember also the joys of DX on 11 metres, > > especially the competitions and the sense of achievement in contacting those > > far away stations. Seems the two hobbies are similar after all... (How dare > > I make that comparison eh...) > > Just curious.... was that 11M Ding on SSB? Can't really see what > excitement there would be trying to DX with 4W of FM! Yes, it would be DX'ing on 27.555MHz USB and probably more like 15w than 4. Yes it was illegal but the achievement felt by making that contact when others didn't think it could be done gave many a great sense of an achievement rather than something that could be achieved so easily on Amateur radio. If it is easy what's the point? Also I lived in Wales for a time and it was not unknown to have contacts throughout Europe on 4w FM because I managed it a few times myself. That was on UK27/81 legally too. > > No disagreement there... CB radio was devised originally as a "service" for > > the community to keep in local touch with each other. > > So, why were you Ding on it if it is only to be used as a local service? Because some found it was possible to do and was quite interesting. When CB was first introduced it was thought DX was impossible and many people who had fought for AM believed FM would only get them "down the road". I used it for both. Mainly to keep in touch with local friends (These were the days before cell phones were commonplace) and talking to the locals and other mobile stations when driving. CB is still un-beatable for that quick 10-13 (Traffic report) on the road ahead. DX was just an un-expected bonus. > > Please state how many 6 yr olds hold an > > M3 or any other radio licence. > > We have been asking Brian and the RSGB to release these non-personal > stats for ages but for some reason they always avoid the question. > Brian says he would be uncomfortable doing so himself, so why doesn't he > with his Board position of "Amateur Radio Development" within RSGB Ltd > get them published in RadCom. There really is no good reason why these > stats cannot be published unless they are trying to hide something. > Another interesting stat would be the percentage of M3s that have > progressed any further!! That would be useful information and figures would not and should not make anyone uncomfortable in divulging. No-one was asking for specifics so for one I cannot see Brian's reluctance in this matter. He could just say there are 15 M3 licensed 6 yr old Amateurs. Now that in itself could not possibly make someone feel uncomfortable. If he was asked to prove it by giving out their call signs then that's a different story... but no-one is. > > All because they weren't interested in Morse code, that antiquated > > communication method pre-dating last century and rarely used now apart from > > by a few 'die hard' Amateurs. > > You obviously don't listen to the HF bands much then! Morse code is > alive and well and is being used by a LOT of people. Take just about > any recent DXpedition in the past few years and look at the breakdown of > the QSOs regarding CW v SSB. Usually the CW totals are far ahead of the > SSB totals. "Rarely used".... you have no idea what you are talking > about! Or maybe you just hear all those funny noises at the low ends of > the bands and as you don't understand Morse code you are prejudiced > against it. Just a wild guess :) You seem to miss my point on this subject every time we are in discussion about it so I will say it again... I hold no ill judgement to anyone who wishes to use Morse. I have no problem with Morse and I believe it is down to the individual Amateur and should not forced on them to obtain 'superior' status. Nor do I think it fair to mock "lazy-assed B's" simply because they aren't really interested in Morse but are interested in everything else. Morse isn't the be all and end all of Amateur radio. So there may be more using it than I think..Compared to the amount of licensed Amateurs though I bet it's pretty low in comparison. Let's ask Brian again if he can give us any statistics on this? > >> Remember - A sure sign of a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds, > >> or has ever held, a licence issued under the gangrenous > >> degeneration that is the M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme! > > > > No need to comment further here... > > Why? Do you agree? You've commented on everything else you disagreed with! Not really, the point was already answered several times so there was no real need to comment further. Just like now really but I thought I might. Besides which it's an open forum and disagreements can be aired quite openly. Regards, Graham -- -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19 From "know code" Tue Feb 28 21:01:48 EST 2006 Article: 96751 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 03:04:06 +0100 From: know code Reply-To: "know code" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Subject: Re: Interested in _REAL_ Ham Radio? (As opposed to Complete Buffoonery (CB)?) Here's the FAQ for you! References: <1140796567.271702.34800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <44006459$0$82266$dbd41001@news.wanadoo.nl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 28 Message-ID: <44010c97$0$82266$dbd41001@news.wanadoo.nl> Organization: Wanadoo NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Feb 2006 02:04:07 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: s5591cd23.adsl.wanadoo.nl X-Trace: 1140919447 dr3.euro.net 82266 85.145.205.35:4692 X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!multikabel.net!feed20.multikabel.net!news2.euro.net!postnews2.euro.net!news.wanadoo.nl!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu uk.radio.amateur:267738 rec.radio.amateur.policy:257028 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:96751 The Magnum wrote: >>> To be proud of yes but jealously guarded? How are you going to guard > it... >>> by demanding Morse be set at 20-30 WPM in_all_classes of "Hammery" >> That would be a good start. At least we'd get rid of a lot of the chaff >> that has no intention of progressing up the so-called progressive >> licensing scheme (a.k.a. an M3 licensee of more than one year). If >> there had been a 20-30wpm Morse test when they got their M3 farce >> licence, then they would never have bothered and Amateur Radio would >> have been a better place as a result. > > Judging by many peoples comments in the newsgroups and a few Amateurs I have > spoken to face to face many feel the hobby would have all but died compared > to what it used to be if the insistence of Morse was upheld especially to > that degree. But that is simply not true and the statistics on the IARU website prove it. The total number of Amateurs in the UK was increasing year in, year out, and that was *before* either the Novice (now Intermediate) or Foundation licenses were introduced. However, the number of RSGB members was *reducing* year in, year out, over the same period so the only reason RSGB Ltd backed these unnecessary licence schemes so vigorously was to try to get more members. They did not have the interests of Amateur Radio at heart, all they were concerned with was keeping their commercial book publishing company alive! Article: 96752 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Brian Hill" References: <1140718413.608596.166550@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FA: Unbuilt Kit - 70's Vintage Heathkit Oscilloscope. Message-ID: <4u8Mf.211$HH2.99@fe07.lga> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 20:23:31 -0600 "Ken Scharf" wrote in message news:wduLf.20072$UD1.2398@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > k7itm@msn.com wrote: >> Wow. Dave Edwards' pristine HP1726 275MHz scope is at $26 right now, >> and this 5MHz unbuilt Heathkit is at $169? Guess it must have some >> antique/nostalgia value to someone. It will be interesting to me to >> check back in 9 days when both auctions end to see what each went for. >> > There is something about unbuilt Heathkits. Some people collect them, > and never build them. Weird. Then again I know people who collect > Barbie dolls and never open the packages, just leave them on a shelf to > collect dust. Well humans are the weirdest animals on the planet. Every other creature you can figure out. :) BH From "know code" Tue Feb 28 21:01:48 EST 2006 Article: 96753 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:30:19 +0100 From: know code Reply-To: "know code" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Subject: Re: Interested in _REAL_ Ham Radio? (As opposed to Complete Buffoonery (CB)?) Here's the FAQ for you! References: <1140796567.271702.34800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <44006459$0$82266$dbd41001@news.wanadoo.nl> <44010c97$0$82266$dbd41001@news.wanadoo.nl> <1140924708.930378.106180@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1140924708.930378.106180@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 28 Message-ID: <44012edb$0$37324$dbd41001@news.wanadoo.nl> Organization: Wanadoo NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Feb 2006 04:30:19 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: s5591cd23.adsl.wanadoo.nl X-Trace: 1140928219 dr3.euro.net 37324 85.145.205.35:1892 X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.glorb.com!newsgate.cistron.nl!news2.euro.net!postnews2.euro.net!news.wanadoo.nl!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu uk.radio.amateur:267739 rec.radio.amateur.policy:257029 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:96753 an Old friend wrote: > know code wrote: >> The Magnum wrote: >> > >>> Judging by many peoples comments in the newsgroups and a few Amateurs I have >>> spoken to face to face many feel the hobby would have all but died compared >>> to what it used to be if the insistence of Morse was upheld especially to >>> that degree. >> But that is simply not true and the statistics on the IARU website prove >> it. The total number of Amateurs in the UK was increasing year in, year >> out, and that was *before* either the Novice (now Intermediate) or >> Foundation licenses were introduced. > > they prove nothing fo the kind how many of those licensee were active > you don't know In the UK, licences are renewed annually so those statistics on the IARU website are of licences that had been renewed in the previous 12 months. That makes the statistics very valid in proving the point I was making! Numbers were increasing year in, year out. Now, had the licences only been renewed every 10 years like in the States (soon the be every five years in the UK) then you may have had a valid point. Article: 96754 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Samuel Hunt" Subject: Impedence mismatch into FET preamp Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Hi all. I have a FET preamp, tuned by means of two fixed capacitors and one variable inductor that serves as an impedance transformer. Am I correct in thinking that if there is an impedance mismatch (say the input circuit was tuned into a 50 ohm load, then was finally presented with say a 105 ohm load), then the preamp's noise figure would increase and the FET would start to become artificially noisy? Then if the FET was pushed into overload by an adjacent strong signal, the noise would then start to reduce. I have this odd situation on a repeater, and I can only put it down to mis-tuned cavities. I've never come across it before though, where the repeater actually IMPROVES in sensitivity when the transmitter keys up (?!?!), so I would like to know what's going on before I fix it. Thanks all, Sam M1FJB Article: 96755 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: class-a-licensee-pkearn-zBBpk@didnt-run-away-from-a-morse-test.es.eircom.com.net (zBBPK) Subject: Re: Interested in _REAL_ Ham Radio? (As opposed to Complete Buffoonery (CB)?) Here's the FAQ for you! Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:16:31 GMT Message-ID: <4401b809.142160165@news.iol.ie> References: <1140796567.271702.34800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1140807870.537515.192700@t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1140808603.680306.237770@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1140810568.204172.55970@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6dadncKctfv0-WLeRVnyhg@giganews.com> <1140813126.449685.76000@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1140813326.911536.89230@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1140813764.297364.117290@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1140814247.897460.277100@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "The Magnum" wrote: > Did someone mention really Graham.... IT IS MY OPINION that you have a lot to learn. Article: 96756 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "The Magnum" Subject: Re: Interested in _REAL_ Ham Radio? (As opposed to Complete Buffoonery (CB)?) Here's the FAQ for you! Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:33:56 -0000 Message-ID: References: <1140796567.271702.34800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1140807870.537515.192700@t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1140808603.680306.237770@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1140810568.204172.55970@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6dadncKctfv0-WLeRVnyhg@giganews.com> <1140813126.449685.76000@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1140813326.911536.89230@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1140813764.297364.117290@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1140814247.897460.277100@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4401b809.142160165@news.iol.ie> "zBBPK" wrote in message news:4401b809.142160165@news.iol.ie... > "The Magnum" wrote: > > > Did someone mention > > > really Graham.... > > IT IS MY OPINION that you have a lot to learn. We all have lots to learn. Life is a learning curve and something new is there to be learned each and every day... praise be to the lord... Graham -- -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19 Article: 96757 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "The Magnum" Subject: Re: Interested in _REAL_ Ham Radio? (As opposed to Complete Buffoonery (CB)?) Here's the FAQ for you! Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:50:15 -0000 Message-ID: References: <1140796567.271702.34800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1140965002.818419.264780@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Plod's Conscience" wrote in message news:1140965002.818419.264780@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Wow! What a lot of interest in this FAQ and hence in _REAL_ Ham Radio! > > 185 postings in the thread in only 2 days! Yes, and most of them telling you what a Nutter you are... 10-4 mad buddy, Graham -- -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19 Article: 96758 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Dot Subject: Re: Interested in _REAL_ Ham Radio? (As opposed to Complete Buffoonery (CB)?) Here's the FAQ for you! Message-ID: <99g302phjph56ksuss7bk5mao5kdhs27cg@4ax.com> References: <1140796567.271702.34800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1140965002.818419.264780@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:55:09 -0500 On 26 Feb 2006 06:43:22 -0800, "Plod's Conscience" wrote: >Wow! What a lot of interest in this FAQ and hence in _REAL_ Ham Radio! > >185 postings in the thread in only 2 days! I doubt that "interest" is the right word. Think... "disgust" or "bemusement"... you'll be getting a little closer. From "know code" Tue Feb 28 21:01:50 EST 2006 Article: 96759 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:09:08 +0100 From: know code Reply-To: "know code" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Subject: Re: Interested in _REAL_ Ham Radio? (As opposed to Complete Buffoonery (CB)?) Here's the FAQ for you! References: <1140796567.271702.34800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1140965002.818419.264780@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1140965002.818419.264780@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 7 Message-ID: <4401d2a4$0$37324$dbd41001@news.wanadoo.nl> Organization: Wanadoo NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Feb 2006 16:09:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: s5591cd23.adsl.wanadoo.nl X-Trace: 1140970148 dr3.euro.net 37324 85.145.205.35:1892 X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!213.132.189.2.MISMATCH!multikabel.net!feed20.multikabel.net!news2.euro.net!postnews2.euro.net!news.wanadoo.nl!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu uk.radio.amateur:267829 rec.radio.amateur.policy:257044 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:96759 Plod's Conscience wrote: > Wow! What a lot of interest in this FAQ and hence in _REAL_ Ham Radio! > > 185 postings in the thread in only 2 days! And most of them by you :) Article: 96760 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Mike Young" References: <1141011981.987128.18370@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ten-Tec 1054 Shortwave Kit Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 04:22:42 GMT wrote in message news:1141011981.987128.18370@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > Hi, > > I built a Ten-Tec 1054 kit and I don't seem to be able to pick up any > stations. I've rechecked all the parts and they are all in the right > place and oriented correctly. I get a lot of static, but nothing that > even sounds like a signal. I live in Chicago. Are there a lot of > stations that can be picked up from here? I'm using a 6 foot antenna. > Any suggestions? A simple sanity check is to check the AM band. Article: 96761 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "steve carey" References: Subject: Re: A really basic question Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 05:21:04 -0500 Message-ID: <4402cdfa$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net> what could you possibly be operating has a 30% power factor "clifto" wrote in message news:n6k2d3-u2q.ln1@remote.clifto.com... >A bit off topic, as it has to do with house wiring. But how does power >factor > affect dissipation in the conductors? I'm wondering, for example, if a > 1500 > watt capacity and a 30% power factor would overload #14 wire. > > -- > All relevant people are pertinent. > All rude people are impertinent. > Therefore, no rude people are relevant. > -- Solomon W. Golomb Article: 96762 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Lew" References: <4402cdfa$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net> Subject: Re: A really basic question Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:07:53 -0500 To figure out your current draw: Amps = Watts (in Kw) X 1000/(voltage X 1.732 X Pf) Thats a very low power factor, what are you running? Lew "steve carey" wrote in message news:4402cdfa$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net... > what could you possibly be operating has a 30% power factor > "clifto" wrote in message > news:n6k2d3-u2q.ln1@remote.clifto.com... >>A bit off topic, as it has to do with house wiring. But how does power >>factor >> affect dissipation in the conductors? I'm wondering, for example, if a >> 1500 >> watt capacity and a 30% power factor would overload #14 wire. >> >> -- >> All relevant people are pertinent. >> All rude people are impertinent. >> Therefore, no rude people are relevant. >> -- Solomon W. Golomb > > Article: 96763 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: lawrence@hummer.not-here.net Subject: Re: +7dB from BFO to diode ring mixer? Date: 27 Feb 2006 09:50:35 -0800 Message-ID: <87oe0sr8r8.fsf@hummer.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-shoot-me> References: <1141025584.002935.174890@t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1141034363.277170.286850@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1141036376.797213.62500@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Tim Wescott writes: > Presumably you could define the 'x' in dBx to be anything -- if you > were married many times, for instance, dBxmil would be a measure of > the number of ex mothers-in-law you have in the room with you, but I'm > not sure if that should be 10 log (N) or 20 log (N). > Well, since the primary charactersitic of mothers-in-law is their volume, it should be 30 log HIHI -- 73 de N1GAK/XE2 echo 'lawrence@abaluon.abaom' | sed s/aba/c/g Article: 96764 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:43:34 +0200 From: Risto Tiilikainen Subject: Re: 4CX250B vs Gi7B families... References: <1140825344.868733.266910@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <44034774$0$7482$39db0f71@news.song.fi> MarkAren wrote: >Hi Guys, > >I am contemplating building a 144MHz power amp and looking at various >options. The obvious solution is a pair of push pull 4CX250Bs. > >It appears that the Gi7B and family of Triodes can provide an equally >capable solution. They appear to be much easier to cool, by something >like an Axial Papst Fan (instead of a Snail Blower). The other obvious >advantage is not having to deal with Screen voltage, regulation and >protection. The triodes also look much easier and cheaper to mount >(given the grounded grid). Finally, it seems because of the very low >inter-electrode capacitances, it is quite easy to parallel the Triodes >up as required (even at 432MHz). > >So what is the down side for using these Triodes ? > >Comments and observations appreciated as usual. > >Regards, > >Mark. > > > Hi Look also following link http://www.burle.com/cgi-bin/byteserver.pl/pdf/8121.pdf I am using 3pcs of those 8121 in parallel in my HF linear. My linear is class AB1 passive grid type. I feed drive to a small 50 ohm dummy load and from this dummy is a tight RF connection to the grids. Drive need for 3 parallel tubes is QRP level. Only some watts. 8121 is designed for side airflow cooling. I made myself a common socket for 3 tubes from a piece of transparent mica plate. I made smal holes in 3 circulars and installed single female connectors >from my junk box to the holes. The connectors stand on the surface of mica. Only pins are going through mica Tubes will sit nicely and firm in these connectors Plate connector is just a simple round aluminium belt around the plate ring. 73, Risto OH2BT Article: 96765 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: info@wmgk.com Subject: Alice Cooper joins Philly's #1 Classic Rock Station for Nights Date: 27 Feb 2006 21:17:25 GMT Message-ID: <44036c65$9$14378$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> --_NextPart_00009777-00001A66-0B28B4F8-2AF9 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alice Cooper joins Philadelphia's #1 Classic Rock Station WMGK for Nights - Cooper will meet fans at Chickie's & Pete's from 1pm to 3pm on Thursday Philadelphia, PA, February 27, 2006 -Legendary rocker, Alice Cooper joins Philadelphia's #1 Classic Rock Station WMGK, beginning Thursday, March 2, 2006. His show, "Nights with Alice Cooper" will air weeknights from 10:00 pm - 2:00 am. The program showcases Classic Rock, Alice's personal stories about his life as a rock icon, as well as interviews and special segments like the "OffBEAT News" with his counterpart, Mistress Kitty. "Having Alice Cooper join Philadelphia's #1 Classic Rock Station, WMGK is a perfect fit," says program director Cruze. "His attitude, the great rock and roll stories along with the music he plays is an awesome way to round out our air-staff. "We are thrilled to have Alice join the MGK lineup -from Alice's Closet Classics to listener calls to his weekly interviews with classic rock artists, night time in Philly will never be the same," adds John Fullam, VP/Market Manager - Greater Media/Philadelphia. Fans of Alice Cooper will have a chance to welcome him to Philadelphia from Thursday from 1:00pm to 3:00pm on Chickie's & Pete's in South Philadelphia. The address is 1526 Packer Avenue, Philadelphia, PA. --_NextPart_00009777-00001A66-0B28B4F8-2AF9-- *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 96766 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Jim" Subject: Need H antenna help Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 03:45:17 -0500 Message-ID: <465a6$440371dd$d80c3ad5$3334@NAXS.COM> I need help in building an H type of tracking antenna for use around 166-167 mhz. This is for wildlife tracking. I have a couple of handheld 3 element Yagi's that I built using YagiCad to do the math, and they work well, but they are big and clunky. There are times when I am willing to sacrifice the good f/b ratio of the yagi for convienience, for instance when working in brushy woods. I have used an H for tracking at 151 mhz, but of course, I can't use that one for 166. My tracking receiver, a King portable, has a BNC connector, so I can interchange antennas quickly. Is there a web page or magazine article that can help me design my H, or can someone share their experience? Thanks Jim Article: 96767 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: - exray - Subject: Re: Ten-Tec 1054 Shortwave Kit Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 18:14:29 -0400 Message-ID: <1206ue27tho2faa@corp.supernews.com> References: <1141011981.987128.18370@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1141049127.758407.212160@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1141074644.712905.40950@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> dave_meade@yahoo.com wrote: > Hi, > > The regeneration control doesn't seem to do anything when I turn it. > Can I check the frequency near the antenna jack with an oscilloscope? > I'm used to digital electronics and this is the first r/f project I've > worked on. If its regenerating you can hear it on a radio placed nearby. -Bill Article: 96768 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Allison-nospam@nouce.bellatlantic.net Subject: Re: Ten-Tec 1054 Shortwave Kit Message-ID: References: <1141011981.987128.18370@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1141049127.758407.212160@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1141074644.712905.40950@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:02:55 GMT Top posted for annoying consistancy: I've seen a few of those and the most common error is wrong device in wrong holes and devices backward. Despite the pictures and manuals I had someone insist the FET was in right never minding the flat was facing the wrong way. Recheck everything. Allison On 27 Feb 2006 13:10:44 -0800, "dave_meade@yahoo.com" wrote: >Hi, > >The regeneration control doesn't seem to do anything when I turn it. >Can I check the frequency near the antenna jack with an oscilloscope? >I'm used to digital electronics and this is the first r/f project I've >worked on. > > >Tim Shoppa wrote: >> Does the regeneration control let you turn the "whooshing" on and off? >> The most sensitive position is where the whooshing is just starting, >> but generally after you find a station you tweak the regen control for >> best audio. >> >> If you have a frequency counter you ought to be able to stick the probe >> near the antenna jack when the "whooshing" is happening and check the >> oscillator/detector frequency to see if it's in the right band and that >> the tuning knob makes it move. >> >> The 49M SW band (5.7-6.1 MHz roughly) should have many big-power >> broadcasters in the evenings your local time. Several religious >> broadcasters, Radio Haiti, Radio China, Radio Taiwan, Radio >> Netherlands, BBC, etc. Propogation has been pretty poor lately and >> signals on the higher frequencies (say 9MHz and above) are not booming >> in like normal, but still there's a few powerhouse broadcasters that >> you ought to be able to hear during the day. >> >> Ham bands aren't as crowded as they used to be, unless it's a contest >> weekend. 6 feet of wire on a regen might be marginal. But I'd expect >> you to pick up a couple of 40M CW signals most evenings as well as the >> SW broadcasters on the 41M band (7.1-7.4 MHz roughly). >> >> Tim. Article: 96769 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "amdx" References: <44036c65$9$14378$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> Subject: Re: Alice Cooper joins Philly's #1 Classic Rock Station for Nights Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 18:13:29 -0600 Message-ID: <59a71$4403963c$45011502$12429@KNOLOGY.NET> wrote in message news:44036c65$9$14378$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com... > Alice Cooper joins Philadelphia's #1 Classic Rock Station WMGK for Nights > - Cooper will meet fans at Chickie's & Pete's from 1pm to 3pm on Thursday > > Philadelphia, PA, February 27, 2006 -Legendary rocker, Alice Cooper joins Philadelphia's #1 Classic Rock Station WMGK, > beginning Thursday, March 2, 2006. His show, "Nights with Alice Cooper" will air weeknights from 10:00 pm - 2:00 am. > > The program showcases Classic Rock, Alice's personal stories about his life as a rock icon, as well as interviews and > special segments like the "OffBEAT News" with his counterpart, Mistress Kitty. > > "Having Alice Cooper join Philadelphia's #1 Classic Rock Station, WMGK is a perfect fit," says program director Cruze. > "His attitude, the great rock and roll stories along with the music he plays is an awesome way to round out our air-staff. > > "We are thrilled to have Alice join the MGK lineup -from Alice's Closet Classics to listener calls to his weekly interviews > with classic rock artists, night time in Philly will never be the same," adds John Fullam, VP/Market Manager - Greater Media/Philadelphia. > > Fans of Alice Cooper will have a chance to welcome him to Philadelphia >from Thursday from 1:00pm to 3:00pm on > Chickie's & Pete's in South Philadelphia. The address is 1526 Packer Avenue, Philadelphia, PA. Listen live online at http://www.wmgk.com/ Article: 96770 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: fmmck@aol.com (Fred McKenzie) Subject: Re: Impedence mismatch into FET preamp Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:57:37 -0500 Message-ID: References: In article , "Samuel Hunt" wrote: > Am I correct in thinking that if there is an impedance mismatch (say the > input circuit was tuned into a 50 ohm load, then was finally presented with > say a 105 ohm load), then the preamp's noise figure would increase and the > FET would start to become artificially noisy? > > Then if the FET was pushed into overload by an adjacent strong signal, the > noise would then start to reduce. > > > I have this odd situation on a repeater, and I can only put it down to > mis-tuned cavities. I've never come across it before though, where the > repeater actually IMPROVES in sensitivity when the transmitter keys up > (?!?!), so I would like to know what's going on before I fix it. Sam- There may be some measurable increase in a preamp's noise output, but a 2 to 1 mismatch will probably not cause such a serious degradation in its noise figure. Perhaps I misunderstand you. When the noise reduces due to overload, that is NOT the same as an improvement in sensitivity. That is commonly refered to as desensitization (desense). An amplifier's gain is reduced to zero when it is in saturation (or oscillating). Inadequate or mistuned cavities can cause desense. It can also be caused by poor shielding, often from poor co-axial cable. You might benefit if you switched to double-shielded cable. Also look for poorly attached connectors. 73, Fred, K4DII Article: 96771 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Message-ID: <4403E5C3.4030509@invalid.invalid> From: Doug Smith W9WI Subject: Re: Need H antenna help References: <465a6$440371dd$d80c3ad5$3334@NAXS.COM> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 05:55:27 GMT Jim wrote: > I need help in building an H type of tracking antenna for use around 166-167 > mhz. This is for wildlife tracking. I have a couple of handheld 3 element > Yagi's that I built using YagiCad to do the math, and they work well, but > they are big and clunky. > > There are times when I am willing to sacrifice the good f/b ratio of the > yagi for convienience, for instance when working in brushy woods. I have > used an H for tracking at 151 mhz, but of course, I can't use that one for > 166. I would think you could simply scale all the dimensions of your 151MHz H down by a factor of 151/166. For example, if the "crosspieces" of the 151MHz H are 39" long.. then for a 166MHz H, they'd be 39*(151/166) = 35.5" long. You'd likewise scale the distance between the two crosspieces. Depending on how it's assembled (and whether you still need it for 151) you could just cut down the 151 antenna. -- Doug Smith W9WI Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66 http://www.w9wi.com Article: 96772 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "Samuel Hunt" Subject: Re: Impedence mismatch into FET preamp Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:16:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: Hi Fred and all.... It's not due to desense. When I tune the cavities up properly, there's about 10dB noise figure on the preamp (reciever is 0.8uV sensitive). Then when it transmits, the noise figure doesn't change. When I tune the notches off slightly so the preamp starts to desense, the noise figure goes down as it starts to desense, then the noise figure goes up high as it pushes the preamp well into desense. I'm going to retune the cavities for minimum SWR at some point anyway (we've got problems with the frequency and a deaf repeater is actually quite a good idea at the moment, so it's not an issue), and see what that does. I just wanted to try to understand why it's doing this, does the FET noise figure increase with an impedance mismatch on the input, and so pushing it into desense reduces the amount of noise on the preamp? It's just an interesting thing I've never come across before and would be interested to find out a technical explanation to it all. Thanks all, Sam "Fred McKenzie" wrote in message news:fmmck-2702062057370001@ac91ea0d.ipt.aol.com... > In article , "Samuel > Hunt" wrote: > >> Am I correct in thinking that if there is an impedance mismatch (say the >> input circuit was tuned into a 50 ohm load, then was finally presented >> with >> say a 105 ohm load), then the preamp's noise figure would increase and >> the >> FET would start to become artificially noisy? >> >> Then if the FET was pushed into overload by an adjacent strong signal, >> the >> noise would then start to reduce. >> >> >> I have this odd situation on a repeater, and I can only put it down to >> mis-tuned cavities. I've never come across it before though, where the >> repeater actually IMPROVES in sensitivity when the transmitter keys up >> (?!?!), so I would like to know what's going on before I fix it. > > Sam- > > There may be some measurable increase in a preamp's noise output, but a 2 > to 1 mismatch will probably not cause such a serious degradation in its > noise figure. > > Perhaps I misunderstand you. When the noise reduces due to overload, that > is NOT the same as an improvement in sensitivity. That is commonly > refered to as desensitization (desense). An amplifier's gain is reduced > to zero when it is in saturation (or oscillating). > > Inadequate or mistuned cavities can cause desense. It can also be caused > by poor shielding, often from poor co-axial cable. You might benefit if > you switched to double-shielded cable. Also look for poorly attached > connectors. > > 73, Fred, K4DII Article: 96773 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "wy0ohg143" Subject: New Ham Radio Group Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 06:31:59 -0500 Ham Radio Unplugged This new group is dedicated to all aspects of Amateur Radio. This group supports free and uncensored speech, so a moderator will not be jumping in all the time telling people how to conduct themselves as is done in other groups. Of course no ongoing "flame wars" or spam will be allowed, but if you have something to say about Ham Radio then go ahead and say it. All are Welcome Here. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ham-Radio-Unpluged/ Article: 96774 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: Allison-nospam@nouce.bellatlantic.net Subject: Re: Impedence mismatch into FET preamp Message-ID: References: Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:30:00 GMT On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:16:15 +0000 (UTC), "Samuel Hunt" wrote: >Hi Fred and all.... > >It's not due to desense. When I tune the cavities up properly, there's about >10dB noise figure on the preamp (reciever is 0.8uV sensitive). Then when it >transmits, the noise figure doesn't change. > >When I tune the notches off slightly so the preamp starts to desense, the >noise figure goes down as it starts to desense, then the noise figure goes >up high as it pushes the preamp well into desense. > > >I'm going to retune the cavities for minimum SWR at some point anyway (we've >got problems with the frequency and a deaf repeater is actually quite a good >idea at the moment, so it's not an issue), and see what that does. > > >I just wanted to try to understand why it's doing this, does the FET noise >figure increase with an impedance mismatch on the input, and so pushing it >into desense reduces the amount of noise on the preamp? > > >It's just an interesting thing I've never come across before and would be >interested to find out a technical explanation to it all. > Sounds like the preamp is either mistuned or the bias on the fet is not optimum. There was a case I ran across where the preamp was added to a motrac and the preamp was too high in gain and it was amplifiying ambinet noise and pushing it into the RX. In short if the preamp is goos and adaquate gain it should help but if there is any thing wrong with the preamp it can easily make matters worse. Allison Article: 96775 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: "wy0ohg143" References: Subject: Re: New Ham Radio Group Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:15:44 -0500 It was a typo I swear! lol Thanks for pointing this out to me. Here is the corrected address. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ham-Radio-Unplugged/ "John L. Sielke" wrote in message news:ArKdnYfRurOTxpnZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > wy0ohg143 wrote: >> Ham Radio Unplugged >> >> This new group is dedicated to all aspects of Amateur Radio. >> This group supports free and uncensored speech, so a moderator will not >> be >> jumping in all the time telling people how to conduct themselves as is >> done >> in other groups. Of course no ongoing "flame wars" or spam will be >> allowed, >> but if you have something to say about Ham Radio then go ahead and say >> it. >> >> All are Welcome Here. >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ham-Radio-Unpluged/ >> >> >> > Great idea, but please, to avoid looking like an idiot, spell "unplugged" > correctly! > > John W2AGN Article: 96776 of rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: epzjud@shaw.ca Subject: Younger Sister Caught In BathTub With Hidden Cam... 7609 [1/2] Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 21:27:56 GMT Hi im trying to get into filming porn so i setup a hiddem camera in our bathroom and caught my younger sister (hot) playin with herself, get her pics here. 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