Article: 324709 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: AK-60 and Halloween References: <68341$435d7692$4232be49$13362@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <8Ie7f.15365$OM.1257973@twister.southeast.rr.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:08:36 GMT Bill wrote: > Isn't ethylene glycol what is in anti-freeze and tastes sweet so animals > tend to lick it up? > Yes, and kill them very dead. And they're VERY sick before they die. Ron Article: 324710 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Acme Electrical appartus, 8Mega Bites References: <1130077441.190181.234000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:12:13 GMT Road Runner, 19 seconds. Warren Weber wrote: > "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message > news:npN6f.2220$Hs.62@tornado.socal.rr.com... > >> >>retroteckh@aol.com wrote: >> >>>http://retrotech.ca/Acme.pdf >> >>"Amplification, it's what makes radio work!" >> >> >>>It a big file so it takes a while to download. >> >>I love my cable access. It took about 40 seconds to download. >> >>Jeff > > > Jeff .. My cable can eat your cable. 35 seconds. WW > >> >>-- >>RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to >>the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal >>force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED >>under the Internal Security Act of 1950. > > > Article: 324711 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Acme Electrical appartus, 8Mega Bites References: <1130077441.190181.234000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:34:22 -0500 Tim Mullen wrote: > In Randy or Sherry Guttery writes: >>So who'll be the SA > > > ? The first definiton that dict found was: > > n : Nazi militia created by Hitler in 1921 that helped him to > power but was eclipsed by the SS after 1943 > [syn: {Sturmarbeiteilung}, {Storm Troops}] > > But I don't think that's what you meant. Systems Administrator? in the context of "the group": SA = smart ass... I was being something of a SA myself... as there are occasions here ("the group") when there is an occasional episode of just having to *top* everyone else... (=>=>=>=> i.e. guilty of a bit of baiting- and as noted before - my nose is firmly back in the corner)... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 324712 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1130199945.029177.17960@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Shutter Dial Zenith Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:38:57 -0400 "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1130199945.029177.17960@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hello. Assuming this is a shutter dial, or at least close to one, does > it yield the same value, headaches to repair, and same enjoyment to own > as the earlier model Zenith shutter dials? I've a chance to own one in > my own area, not this one in particular for about double the price. > Just wondering if anyone's owned this particular model. > > This is the one I'm not buying > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ZENITH-CONSOLE-RADIO-PHONOGRAPH-MODEL-12H695_W0QQitemZ6570725502QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting > I own a very similar model, same chassis, different cabinet. Mine has the phono in a drawer beneath the radio and looks more like a normal console. That chassis has the early Armstrong FM band, so the only thing you will hear in that range is some fire depts and highway patrol stations, and maybe a few baby monitors and CB at the high end. It is a 12-tube shutterdial, and it is a pretty decent performer, IF you can get beyond the 1942 Zenith styling!!! It was my first console when I got into collecting almost 20 years ago, and I paid WAY too much from it from a local dealer/restorer. The AM and SW performance is quite decent. One other caveat--that phono is full of pot metal. Mine disintergrated when I tried to work on it. Plan on replacing it if you want the turntable to work. Pete Article: 324713 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" Subject: Best audio interstage for a Majestic 90? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:41:21 -0400 Majestic 90 needs an interstage audio--27 driving a pair of 45s in P-P. What's the best bet, at a reasonable price? (Both sides of the secondary are wide open, no way to "fake it".) Pete Article: 324714 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Shutter Dial Zenith References: <1130199945.029177.17960@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:52:22 GMT Uncle Peter wrote: > That chassis has the early Armstrong FM band, > a few baby monitors and CB at the high end. FM CB? Huh? Ron Article: 324715 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:07:55 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Best audio interstage for a Majestic 90? References: Message-ID: <73353$435d856d$4232be49$23181@COQUI.NET> Uncle Peter wrote: > Majestic 90 needs an interstage audio--27 driving a pair of 45s in P-P. > What's the best bet, at a reasonable price? (Both sides of the secondary > are wide open, no way to "fake it".) > > Pete > > > RadioDaze, Hammond replacement. -Bill Article: 324716 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: New Orthophonic Hi Fi, RCA model SHF-9 From: lherault@bu.edu References: <435c3307_5@newsfeed.slurp.net> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:27:41 GMT Message-ID: <435d8956_1@newsfeed.slurp.net> Well, I tried downloading two readers for .djvu files and neither work so if someone else can read them and would like to tell me what the electrolytic is supposed to be, I'd sure appreciate it. Thanks for the help so far. Ron L Article: 324717 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1130199945.029177.17960@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Shutter Dial Zenith Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:42:02 -0400 "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:alf7f.15907$pP1.1184957@twister.southeast.rr.com... > Uncle Peter wrote: > > That chassis has the early Armstrong FM band, > > a few baby monitors and CB at the high end. > > FM CB? Huh? > > Ron most of the Part 15 unlicensed CB stuff moved to 49 MHz years ago. Pete http://support.radioshack.com/support_electronics/doc17/17002.htm Article: 324718 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <73353$435d856d$4232be49$23181@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Best audio interstage for a Majestic 90? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:45:02 -0400 "Bill" wrote in message news:73353$435d856d$4232be49$23181@COQUI.NET... > Uncle Peter wrote: > > > > RadioDaze, Hammond replacement. > > -Bill I was worrying too much about matching Z. I guess their 13 dollar generic will work as good as anything... Pete Article: 324719 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:16:12 -0500 Since this is SO FAR off topic - I'll leave it brief and invite further discussion via email if anyone is interested. Here is the long and short of it - if anyone is even remotely considering buying a Maytag product (esp. a washer) - email me... Sherry and I have been through an experience we would never have suspected... best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 324720 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <11ln61inem3vd68@corp.supernews.com> <1130094126.995353.142730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11lnql3ict1qme0@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Orange Drops Message-ID: <6Gg7f.7417$8K4.4410@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:22:58 GMT "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:MrydneaWOfB2WcHeRVn-qw@comcast.com... > > > Orange Drops (at least, those I've seen) have axial leads. > > I'll let Sprague make the call, after all they are their capacitors. http://www.sbelectronics.com/productlines.htm Note the heading "Radial Leaded Film Capacitors, Orange Drop". jim menning Article: 324721 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:25:43 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: New Orthophonic Hi Fi, RCA model SHF-9 References: <435c3307_5@newsfeed.slurp.net> <435d8956_1@newsfeed.slurp.net> Message-ID: lherault@bu.edu wrote: > Well, I tried downloading two readers for .djvu files and neither work so if > someone else can read them and would like to tell me what the electrolytic > is supposed to be, I'd sure appreciate it. > > Thanks for the help so far. > > Ron L Try this: http://www.sparkbench.com/xshf9.gif -Bill M Article: 324722 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! Date: 24 Oct 2005 21:47:01 -0500 Message-ID: <435d9c23$0$191$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote: > Since this is SO FAR off topic - I'll leave it brief and invite further > discussion via email if anyone is interested. Here is the long and > short of it - if anyone is even remotely considering buying a Maytag > product (esp. a washer) - email me... Sherry and I have been through an > experience we would never have suspected... > Well, I am now the proud (?) owner ("Congratulations...") of a Maytag stove. There's something strange about the thing. With the burner grates so high above the burners, and with the burner diameters so large with no center flame, I could swear that the thing wastes an awful lot of gas with most of the flame going up around the side of the pots. Am I imagining this? CalBubba Article: 324723 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: philsvintageradios Subject: Re: Best audio interstage for a Majestic 90? Message-ID: References: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:01:43 GMT On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:41:21 -0400, " Uncle Peter" wrote: >Majestic 90 needs an interstage audio--27 driving a pair of 45s in P-P. >What's the best bet, at a reasonable price? (Both sides of the secondary >are wide open, no way to "fake it".) > >Pete > > Pete I asked a similar question about a 1929 rogers radio. I think your radio may be similar in circut design. I went with the transformer from AES that someone from the group recomended and it worked fine.. maybe have a look at the thread to see if it helps. it is a long link so if it wraps you might have to peice it back together. Phil http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.antiques.radio+phono/browse_thread/thread/30556065d19a7323/f2f74d6a604a9109?lnk=st&q=rogers+interstage+mrhuntnpeck&rnum=1&hl=en#f2f74d6a604a9109 Article: 324724 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <11ln61inem3vd68@corp.supernews.com> <1130094126.995353.142730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11lnql3ict1qme0@corp.supernews.com> <2A47f.27402$sJ5.647387@wagner.videotron.net> <4bKdnTcYc4T88sDeRVn-qg@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Orange Drops Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:09:50 -0400 "William Sommerwerck" a écrit dans le message de news: 4bKdnTcYc4T88sDeRVn-qg@comcast.com... > > Orange drops are radial, not axial, unless you own a dictionary > > with a different definition of the word radial... > > Here's the Encarta Dictionary definition. Decide for yourself... Sorry William but I don't have to "decide" anything, I think it's pretty obvious. Short of giving a geometry class, here's the definition of radial and axial; Spreading out on the same plane = radial (arranged or having parts arranged like rays relating to, placed like, or moving along a radius characterized by divergence from a center) Situated in the direction of, on, or along an axis = axial (extending in a direction essentially _perpendicular_ to the plane of a cyclic structure, located in the direction of an axis is _perpendicular to a diameter_.) Examples (pictures) Radial caps: http://www.apexjr.com/capacitorsR.html#Disc Axial caps: http://www.apexjr.com/capacitorA.html Syl From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Sat Oct 29 13:08:34 EDT 2005 Article: 324725 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: anyone want some 10 inch speakers? References: <1130052577.0b0bd7a32d866988999c721bd593df02@teranews> <25780-435BB8A2-692@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1130115142.865335.208490@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 10 Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:09:57 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1130209797 66.65.49.10 (Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:09:57 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:09:57 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:324725 In article <1130115142.865335.208490@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Peter Wieck wrote: > Cutting the center 'bubble" (dust cap) is inelegant and unnecessary. Well...it didn't matter to me. I was replacing the dust cap anyway. :) -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 324726 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130077441.190181.234000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Acme Electrical appartus, 8Mega Bites Message-ID: <9oh7f.411$ZA3.111714@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:12:05 GMT What ever it was, I lost track and don't care how fast it loads. By all means play with it ;-) "Randy or Sherry Guttery" wrote in message news:l2f7f.5111$NJ.1917@bignews7.bellsouth.net... > Tim Mullen wrote: > > In Randy or Sherry Guttery writes: > > >>So who'll be the SA > > > > > > ? The first definiton that dict found was: > > > > n : Nazi militia created by Hitler in 1921 that helped him to > > power but was eclipsed by the SS after 1943 > > [syn: {Sturmarbeiteilung}, {Storm Troops}] > > > > But I don't think that's what you meant. Systems Administrator? > > in the context of "the group": SA = smart ass... I was being something > of a SA myself... as there are occasions here ("the group") when there > is an occasional episode of just having to *top* everyone else... > (=>=>=>=> i.e. guilty of a bit of baiting- and as noted before - my nose > is firmly back in the corner)... > -- > randy guttery > > A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews > so vital to the United States Silent Service: > http://tendertale.com Article: 324727 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <11ln61inem3vd68@corp.supernews.com> <1130094126.995353.142730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11lnql3ict1qme0@corp.supernews.com> <2A47f.27402$sJ5.647387@wagner.videotron.net> <4bKdnTcYc4T88sDeRVn-qg@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Orange Drops Message-ID: <6th7f.412$ZA3.111883@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:17:22 GMT Real oranges would be a lot nicer right now. "Syl" wrote in message news:Tlh7f.38666$sJ5.968801@wagner.videotron.net... > "William Sommerwerck" a écrit dans le message de > news: 4bKdnTcYc4T88sDeRVn-qg@comcast.com... > > > Orange drops are radial, not axial, unless you own a dictionary > > > with a different definition of the word radial... > > > > Here's the Encarta Dictionary definition. Decide for yourself... > > Sorry William but I don't have to "decide" anything, I think it's pretty > obvious. > Short of giving a geometry class, here's the definition of radial and axial; > > Spreading out on the same plane = radial > (arranged or having parts arranged like rays > relating to, placed like, or moving along a radius > characterized by divergence from a center) > > Situated in the direction of, on, or along an axis = axial > (extending in a direction essentially _perpendicular_ to the plane of a > cyclic structure, > located in the direction of an axis is _perpendicular to a diameter_.) > > Examples (pictures) > > Radial caps: > http://www.apexjr.com/capacitorsR.html#Disc > > Axial caps: > http://www.apexjr.com/capacitorA.html > > Syl > > > Article: 324728 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Orange Drops Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:29:17 -0600 Message-ID: <17813-435DA68D-261@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: My car has both radials and axials Article: 324729 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <11ln61inem3vd68@corp.supernews.com> <1130094126.995353.142730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11lnql3ict1qme0@corp.supernews.com> <879c6$435cc7e7$4232bd48$1891@COQUI.NET> <-NWdneqWtMJwUcHeRVn-tg@comcast.com> <7p47f.2862$QM5.1093@tornado.socal.rr.com> Subject: Re: Orange Drops Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:12:03 -0400 "William Sommerwerck" a écrit dans le message de news: xoydnUdK1bN-88DeRVn-tg@comcast.com... > > Radial | | > > > Axial -- -- > By your reasoning, if the leads of an Orange Drop were at the same end, they > would then be axial. No. They would be radial. Syl Article: 324730 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: anyone want some 10 inch speakers? Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:34:19 -0600 Message-ID: <17812-435DA7BB-968@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: I sent myself an email about this Article: 324731 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <17813-435DA68D-261@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Orange Drops Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:52:15 GMT "Ken G." wrote in message news:17813-435DA68D-261@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net... > My car has both radials and axials My house has quadradials and coaxials. Article: 324732 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <17812-435DA7BB-968@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: anyone want some 10 inch speakers? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:53:24 GMT "Ken G." wrote in message news:17812-435DA7BB-968@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net... > I sent myself an email about this Did you reply? Article: 324733 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:40:32 -0600 Message-ID: <17812-435DA930-970@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <435d9c23$0$191$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Tell the story here :-) I once read a post somewhere on the net about someone trying to get a new gasket for the front door on one of those things . After what he went through he could have built a new washer out of mud and sticks . Article: 324734 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:40:55 -0600 Message-ID: <17813-435DA947-263@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <435d9c23$0$191$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Tell the story here :-) I once read a post somewhere on the net about someone trying to get a new gasket for the front door on one of those things . After what he went through he could have built a new washer out of mud and sticks . Article: 324735 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! References: <435d9c23$0$191$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <17812-435DA930-970@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <4ij7f.5325$NJ.3070@bignews7.bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:24:13 -0500 Ken G. wrote: > Tell the story here :-) I once read a post somewhere on the net about > someone trying to get a new gasket for the front door on one of those > things . After what he went through he could have built a new washer out > of mud and sticks . Ok - that is "the" well known problem of the incredibly poor design of the door seals on the "Neptune" front loader washers. Maytag recently agreed to settle the class action law suit. This was probably the first "warning sign" of the problems at Maytag. I know people that have had Maytags for years - like 20 - 30 without problems. My mother, for instance - has had Maytags for well over 50 years - she just bought her third set last year. Extremely reliable. But that was then - this is now. Maytag has apparently been in a tail spin for a few years - and their quality / quality control / customer service has gone down hill like a dropping rock. Sherry and I bought a new Kenmore washer a couple of years after I got out of the Navy. It was a (then) top-of-the-line Whirlpool with a Kenmore badge. It's now 22 years old - and recently the spin clutch started slipping. Rather than put a couple hundred into rebuilding a 22+ year old machine - we decided to buy a new machine. Looking at Consumer Reports, and "feature comparisons" here and there -- it appeared that the upper mid-line Maytags had the best feature / price offering. There are other really unique machines out there these days - the Fisher-Paykel with it's 1000 RPM spin and something like only 10 moving parts - no belts, gears, transmission, pulleys, etc. wild for a top loader. However - there have been reports of it's electronics control having reliability problems. So the - Maytag - M/N MAVT546EWW - stainless steel tub, 600 RPM spin, 20 something cycles, infinitely variable water level, intelligent water temp control (EnergyStar rated); electronic control for a huge set of selectable features - and a neat feature called "finger faucet" which provides water on demand for pre-treating, diluting fabric softener, and rinsing your hands. Sherry had found out about the finger faucet feature - as my mother's new machine has it. So - for $585 home it came. It was *very* quiet - worked fine. At first. Then we noticed the finger faucet wasn't working right - once the machine filled - it stopped working. Which is dumb - as it's AFTER the thing fills that it's so handy (and my mother's works *anytime*). We contacted Maytag. I won't repeat all the stupid replies we received -- just give you an idea: one person sent an email saying that the finger faucet feature was designed to work only when the machine was filling. Sherry wrote back asking: "Let me see if I have this right - Maytag put a switch on the machine to turn on the water when the water is already running. Is that right?" The answer: "Sorry for the inconvenience". In trying different things (setting the water level to less than "max" full, etc. - we found that the machine's electronic control system would get confused - nothing would work - and the only way to restore it back to operating would be to unplug the machine and let it sit an hour - then it would usually go back to working fine. And again - at this time - it was working quite well - when it worked - and except for the finger faucet "issue". I found the wiring diagram for the unit - and found that I could put a 3PDT relay in and restore the finger faucet's "correct" operation. i.e. basically bypass the control board. The reason it needed 3P - is that on Thursday (10/13/05) we discovered that if the water temp select was on "HOT" - guess what the finger faucet "delivered" --- and in my house - that is VERY hot!!! enough to scald an unsuspecting person! So the third pole would cut off the hot valve while the other two powered (both hot and neutral) the COLD valve. (the finger faucet switch on the panel is rated 16A 120VAC - so that would run the coil of the relay just fine). We tried to tell Maytag about the potential scald problem - but by this time they weren't answering our emails - returning calls - nothing. We checked with my mother - and she found that when you push the finger faucet button - you get cold (or cool) water anytime - if the temp select is on HOT - the cold immediately cools it down to quite safe temps. And as noted - anytime - even after filling. Friday - I do a normal load of clothes in the morning - it runs fine. I unplug the unit to do something to the dryer (close quarters) - plug it back in a few minutes later - and the lights on the panel just flash - nothing works, won't respond to any switches (save the lid - which only caused the pattern to change). Call Maytag customer service. Tell her what it's doing. Lights? it has Lights on it? "Yes, it's a model with electronic control - what you guys call "Intelli Dial". "Oh. Well just unplug it for a while." "I have - several times - once for over an hour - same thing." Well you'll have to call your local servicer. Sorry for the inconvenience." By this time I'm getting tired of that comment. I call the servicer - a local company who I've known for nearly 25 years. I talk to the owner - and she just said "take it back" - I'll fix it if that's what you really want - but I'll be back - and back... we can't hardly keep boards in for these things. OK - how is the next model down - nearly same features but with a traditional mechanical timer. Well - they aren't breaking all the time --- but.... Hm.... So Sherry and I call the guy at Lowes we bought it from - tell our tale of woe - and he just says - no problem - bring it back. We decide to go ahead and get the model with the mechanical timer (MAVT446AWW). It's still stainless tub; 620 RPM spin, finger faucet, doesn't have all the cycles nor EnergyStar - but it's about $55 less - which they readily hand us. So Saturday evening - we have a new machine. End of story? HA!!!!! welcome to the NEW Maytag!!!!! We unpack the thing- the stainless steel tub looks like an amateur welded the seam - the weld has holes in it - its very rough - and looks like it's either rusting (stainless?) or has some kind of contamination discoloring the metal. The whole idea of a stainless tub is that they are very smooth, stay that way - and are very gentle on the clothes. We got to looking - and it looked in places like it might have been a used machine - there were water marks in the bottom of the tub; and stuff like that - yet - it was in it's factory packing. It appeared Maytag was just stuffing anything they could into boxes and shipping it. Sherry needed to pick up some stuff from Walmart Sunday - so she drifted through Lowes and looked at the machines on the floor. Very nice machine welded seams - couldn't hardly feel the weld running your fingers over it. Nope - this one sucked -and sucked bad. So I go on the web and do some searches- and of course the majority of complaints are the Neptunes. A lot of the early ones with the mold problem - but - now I also notice there are complaints about recent ones and the door latch "Wax motors" whatever the heck that is... and scattered all through are horror stories of how the Maytag customer reps are all spewing nothing but well rehearsed excuses and "Sorry for the...". And then - especially recently - are more and more postings about machines lasting only a year or two and then having major problems - and Maytag not wanting to fix them - other postings about Amana motors in Maytags that don't last very long... and transmission seals that fail in 18 months just out of labor warranty - and they want a fortune in labor to fix the things. By the time we went to bed Sunday night (what a fun way for Sherry to spend her birthday) we had the thing back in it's packing. This morning I called the local service people again - and asked her to be frank - off the record. I'll not repeat anything she said - but it was interesting to say the least (they service every major brand- including those strange Fisher-Paykels). We took the second Maytag back to Lowes. The young lady at the returns register looked a little surprised when I told here we wanted to return a washing machine - then she thought a moment and asked "Maytag?" "Yup - how'd you know" well we don't get many washers back - but when we do... We now have a very nice mid-level Whirlpool. It doesn't have a stainless tub (it's porcelain on steel); it doesn't have a finger faucet; but it does have about 27 cycles, infinite water level, intelligent water temp (EnergyStar listed); doesn't spin quite as fast (I think its around 500 RPM) but you know what? I bet I sleep better tonight than last night... and I'm looking forward to another 20+ years of NOT worrying about the washer... It's a shame. Once upon a time - Maytag was "the dependability brand". I hope Whirlpool can salvage the brand - since I now hear that they bought (or are in the process of buying) Maytag. One of the washer M/Ns that was listed as having early failing seals - is the model my mother got last year - so hopefully not all current Maytags suck --- so I guess while I don't have to worry about my machine - we'll all be watching hers like a hawk... OF COURSE - all of the above is my opinion - statements are to the best of my knowledge and recollection, etc. -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com From kawninja.at.nospam.cableone.dot.net Sat Oct 29 13:08:37 EDT 2005 Article: 324736 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve P." Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:25:13 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <11lrgeu6144t1da@corp.supernews.com> References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 12 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-10!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:324736 I bought a Maytag Performa washer and dryer about 4 years ago and have been very pleased with them. Steve P. "Randy or Sherry Guttery" wrote in message news:Pxg7f.4$ty1.3@bignews1.bellsouth.net... > Since this is SO FAR off topic - I'll leave it brief and invite further > discussion via email if anyone is interested. Article: 324737 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! References: <11lrgeu6144t1da@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:36:35 -0500 Steve P. wrote: > I bought a Maytag Performa washer and dryer about 4 years ago and have been > very pleased with them. As noted - in the not so distant past - Maytag was excellent-- and hopefully will be again - but in the mean time - buyer beware is very much (IMHO) appropriate... best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 324738 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: Shouldn't this Zenith Baby Strat be up in the thousands by now? References: <1130163687.213456.296140@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130169046.039750.319060@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130199603.092609.178990@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:23:03 GMT Eddie Brimer wrote: > the grille is hideous....some > peoples kids. you give them a scroll saw for christmas and they > blaspheme all over a nice radio. I dunno...even if you don't like it, it seems fairly nicely done (or as best as you can tell from the pictures). Any chance this was done at the factory for some kind of retirement gift or presentation or ??? Carter K8VT Article: 324739 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Orange Drops Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 06:02:14 -0700 Message-ID: <20412-435E2CD6-527@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> References: >My car has both radials and axials > ________ > >My house has quadradials and coaxials. My car is constipated. It can't pass anything. ..back to corner oc Article: 324740 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! References: <11lrgeu6144t1da@corp.supernews.com> <1130244016.925688.121830@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:18:16 -0500 Peter Wieck wrote: > Read the Ralph Hake/Maytag story since about the end of 2003 or so (He > took over in 2001). He pretty much ran the place into the ground by > focusing on short-term goals.... And.... You know - that is indeed one of the things that caught my attention in all this. Yes - I blame him and him alone. In my limited (but fairly long) experience I've found that most workers reflect the attitude of management. What's troubling, then - is Hake's previous experience would lead one to suspect that he would have been an excellent CEO for Maytag - as he came up at Mead - whose products - while not flashy - certainly meet reasonable expectations - then from Whirlpool - a company who's reputation for quality is quite good (esp. refrigerators, washers and dryers). Then two years in the construction business immediately before Maytag --- one wonders what about that industry caused him to apparently "forget" all he learned at Mead and Whirlpool about quality. > And.... > > If the company does sell to Whirlpool, he is entitled to an > approximately $10 million dollar severance package. IMHO - getting rid of him might be one of the best moves Maytag / new owners could make... best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 324741 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Orange Drops References: <11ln61inem3vd68@corp.supernews.com> <1130094126.995353.142730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11lnql3ict1qme0@corp.supernews.com> <6Gg7f.7417$8K4.4410@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <0eKdnQP5JYKOvcPeRVn-jA@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:30:48 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: > I'm not responsible for the idiots at Sprague. Remember that most engineers > are poorly educated, especially in matters lingual. Which is probably why they're employed and you aren't. > Inasmuch as a device's leads can be bent in any direction, what's the point > of saying that a device has "axial" or "radial" leads? None. It's where the > lead are _located_ that matters. That's a bit of a stretch, but it's what I'd expect as an explanation >from someone who refuses to back down. Axial.... Since you don't get it yet. If you hold the leads and rotate the part, the part rotates symmetrically. Radial.... If you bend the leads away from each other and rotate the part, it will not rotate symmetrically about the axis. > The leads on an Orange Drop are located along the "axis" of the device, not > its radius. Case closed. The only thing closed here is your mind. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 324742 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! References: <11lrgeu6144t1da@corp.supernews.com> <1130244016.925688.121830@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:42:51 -0500 Peter Wieck wrote: > The folks at Maytag (those Americans who actually build the machines) > dodged a bullet when Whirlpool decided to purchase the company over a > Chinese offer, and has run about an inch away from bankruptcy these > last two years or so. White Goods are coming out of Korea (LG), Mexico > (Whirlpool), Brazil (GE & Whirlpool), Italy and China. GE remains about > the largest appliance maker which still is primarily US-based... and > that is because it invested billions in automating its factories over > the last five years. Our ex-landlady (we bought the house from her last spring) purchased a new gas stove for us last year. It was made in--of all places--Turkey! It works okay...I couldn't even tell you whose badge is on it. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 324743 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <11ln61inem3vd68@corp.supernews.com> <1130094126.995353.142730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11lnql3ict1qme0@corp.supernews.com> <6Gg7f.7417$8K4.4410@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <0eKdnQP5JYKOvcPeRVn-jA@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Orange Drops Message-ID: <8wr7f.434$ZA3.115440@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:43:16 GMT Party! Everybody rhumba "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:csq7f.2935$QM5.814@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > William Sommerwerck wrote: > > > I'm not responsible for the idiots at Sprague. Remember that most engineers > > are poorly educated, especially in matters lingual. > > Which is probably why they're employed and you aren't. > > > Inasmuch as a device's leads can be bent in any direction, what's the point > > of saying that a device has "axial" or "radial" leads? None. It's where the > > lead are _located_ that matters. > > That's a bit of a stretch, but it's what I'd expect as an explanation > from someone who refuses to back down. > > Axial.... Since you don't get it yet. If you hold the leads and > rotate the part, the part rotates symmetrically. > > Radial.... If you bend the leads away from each other and rotate > the part, it will not rotate symmetrically about the axis. > > > The leads on an Orange Drop are located along the "axis" of the device, not > > its radius. Case closed. > > The only thing closed here is your mind. > > Jeff > > > -- > RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to > the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal > force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED > under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 324744 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: Wire recorders References: <1130098781.935794.43600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130104544.680589.110800@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4wU6f.3021$HW5.1335@trnddc04> <1130179947.814038.28420@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:53:18 -0500 Tim Mullen wrote: > In <1130179947.814038.28420@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "toxcrusadr" writes: > > >>I read that in a sci fi novel. I think it's an intriguing idea, but I >>can't believe there would be enough acoustic power or (especially) >>"resolution" using a stick in the clay, to get anything recognizable. >>Imagine the noise and rumble of the spinning table! > > > A few years back I saw an episode of one of those (Friendly) Aliens > Amongst Us cheesy sci-fi shows where the Good Alien recovered a > conversation from some oil paintings in the artist's apartment. > Fun idea, but, no, can't see how that would work. Inkjet printer > for sound? :) > Strange but true: researchers have proved to be able to decypher the actual script typed on a computer by merely recording the sound of the typist. They don't even need a representative sample of the sound of each key. The process involves simply recording the sound of an anonymous typist, typing text. A computer sorts out and separates the unique sound of each individual key, then applies standard decryptogaphy techniques--mostly involving frequency which a particular key is struck--to work out the text...to something like 85-95% accuracy. Scary stuff.... Article: 324745 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: rare From: "Haggis" telus.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:25:23 GMT Looking for something on the 'infamous auction' this morning I noticed how many titles had "rare" in them. What I was looking for could be considered "rare" I guess :-). Then in a rare free moment, I typed "rare" into the search box - only 323921 items came up! No, I didn't continue. Does anyone really search by 'rare' or 'vintage' or 'antique'? Haggis. Article: 324746 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: rare Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:37:06 GMT "Haggis telus.net>" wrote in message news:D7s7f.53221$S4.31574@edtnps84... > Looking for something on the 'infamous auction' this morning I > noticed how > many titles had "rare" in them. What I was looking for could be > considered > "rare" I guess :-). Then in a rare free moment, I typed "rare" into > the > search box - only 323921 items came up! No, I didn't continue. Does > anyone > really search by 'rare' or 'vintage' or 'antique'? > > Haggis. I certainly wouldn't search for "rare", but the use of certain words like rare, vintage, antique, etc. in the title do stand out when doing category searches, and thus probably have some value. jim menning Article: 324747 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbelly Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! Message-ID: References: <435d9c23$0$191$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <17812-435DA930-970@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> <4ij7f.5325$NJ.3070@bignews7.bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:04:07 -0400 On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:24:13 -0500, Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote: >Ken G. wrote: >> Tell the story here :-) I once read a post somewhere on the net about >> someone trying to get a new gasket for the front door on one of those >> things . After what he went through he could have built a new washer out >> of mud and sticks . > >Ok - that is "the" well known problem of the incredibly poor design of >the door seals on the "Neptune" front loader washers. Maytag recently >agreed to settle the class action law suit. This was probably the first >"warning sign" of the problems at Maytag. > You should have went to Home Depot. The Maytag that I got from them works great! Article: 324748 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: rare Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:38:02 GMT I only look at items if the magic word L@@K! appears. -- Mike Schultz "jim menning" wrote in message news:Cis7f.9016$8K4.7262@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Haggis telus.net>" wrote in message > news:D7s7f.53221$S4.31574@edtnps84... >> Looking for something on the 'infamous auction' this morning I noticed >> how >> many titles had "rare" in them. What I was looking for could be >> considered >> "rare" I guess :-). Then in a rare free moment, I typed "rare" into the >> search box - only 323921 items came up! No, I didn't continue. Does >> anyone >> really search by 'rare' or 'vintage' or 'antique'? >> >> Haggis. > > I certainly wouldn't search for "rare", but the use of certain words like > rare, vintage, antique, etc. in the title do stand out when doing category > searches, and thus probably have some value. > > jim menning > Article: 324749 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Saul Rabinowitz Subject: Re: rare References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:55:11 GMT Haggis Looking for something on the 'infamous auction' this morning I noticed how > many titles had "rare" in them. What I was looking for could be considered > "rare" I guess :-). Then in a rare free moment, I typed "rare" into the > search box - only 323921 items came up! No, I didn't continue. Does anyone > really search by 'rare' or 'vintage' or 'antique'? How about "mint?" Saul Article: 324750 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! Date: 25 Oct 2005 11:59:01 -0500 Message-ID: <435e63c6$0$213$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: <11lrgeu6144t1da@corp.supernews.com> <1130244016.925688.121830@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130252600.772769.325100@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > When we were in Turkey a couple of years ago, they were very proud of > the fact that they made cars, buses, appliances and most everything > else a "real European" country makes... or so said the Taxi Driver. And > the Taxi (Turkish) ran fairly well. The narrow gauge Istiklal Trolley > Cars were little gems. Istanbul is also one of the cleaner cities you > might ever visit, and you will notice one other peculiarity: Stray dogs > and cats are spayed, vetted and collared, and usually > (color-permitting) a dye-spot is put on one flank to differentiate them > from untreated animals. Accordingly, they are generally healthy, > friendly and entirely unaggressive, at least based on our considerable > wanderings during a week spent in the city. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > I'm going to start a new "OT" about this issue. A new twist. Bubba Article: 324751 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: OT: What's worth buying? Date: 25 Oct 2005 12:13:01 -0500 Message-ID: <435e66f3$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> We've shared our horror stories about poor-quality American home appliances here lately. We've seen the results in our own homes of mergers, acquisitions, bottom line fever, and huge executive salaries. When I buy a Maytag washer, am I buying a washing machine, or am I making a donation right into the CEO's pocket? My friend's Amana washing machine literally collapsed. I noticed the paper-thin steel of his replacement Sears/Whirlpool; and the flimsiness of its timer. His (Mexican) GE/Sears stove wouldn't boil water. My own Sears/Whirlpool damages clothing. Its timer sticks at two points. Let's try this another way. Based on _very recent purchases_: Is there any domestic American brand that's delivering decent products? What should we buy? I believe in buying American as much as possible, but have we finally turned the corner of no return? In other words, no matter how patriotic, are we shooting ourselves in the feet by not buying foreign? Finally, I know of a man who has built a really good business rebuilding _only_ Whirlpool/Sears washers and dryers made 7 years ago and back. Back to my bottom line question: in self defense, what is worth buying? Bubba Article: 324752 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! References: <435d9c23$0$191$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <17812-435DA930-970@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> <4ij7f.5325$NJ.3070@bignews7.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:26:16 GMT Beerbelly wrote: > > You should have went [sic] to Home Depot. The Maytag that I got from them > works great! I'm glad you got a good one, but why should he have "went" to Home Depot? Are the ones sold at Home Depot designed differently or made at a different factory than the Maytags sold at other retail outlets ??? Article: 324753 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Wayne Tiffany" Subject: Wards Airline Radio Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:01:45 -0500 Message-ID: I just recently became the proud owner of an old Wards Airline radio. You can find pictures here www.kcswug.com/images all titled Don's radio. I don't know a lot about it because the label inside the cabinet is not all there. Does anyone know anything more about it than what you see in the pictures? Is it a common radio, rare, etc? Worth anything? The cabinet is in good shape as far as not coming apart. It shows some wear because the set was used basically every day way back when. Any thoughts? WT Article: 324754 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: AK-60 and Halloween Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <68341$435d7692$4232be49$13362@COQUI.NET> <8Ie7f.15365$OM.1257973@twister.southeast.rr.com> In Tom Adkins writes: >Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: >> Bill wrote: >> >>> Isn't ethylene glycol what is in anti-freeze and tastes sweet so >>> animals tend to lick it up? >> >> Yes, and kill them very dead. And they're VERY sick >> before they die. > Yes, it is fatal if ingested (pets and people). It crystallizes in the kidneys and >shuts them down. Very painful. Thanks for that info, guys. I never knew that. > I've never heard of the mist produced by foggers >causing health problems though. I've never noticed it tasting sweet, either. I'd think foggers used in clubs and on stage would be reasonably safe. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 324755 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Acme Electrical appartus, 8Mega Bites Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1130077441.190181.234000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> In Randy or Sherry Guttery writes: >in the context of "the group": SA = smart ass... I was being something >of a SA myself... as there are occasions here ("the group") when there >is an occasional episode of just having to *top* everyone else... >(=>=>=>=> i.e. guilty of a bit of baiting- and as noted before - my nose >is firmly back in the corner)... :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 324756 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbelly Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! Message-ID: <5ttsl1lflr5uvr6rq7tmj9llad76pg9m25@4ax.com> References: <435d9c23$0$191$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <17812-435DA930-970@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> <4ij7f.5325$NJ.3070@bignews7.bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:21:40 -0400 On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:26:16 GMT, Carter-K8VT wrote: >Beerbelly wrote: > >> >> You should have went [sic] to Home Depot. The Maytag that I got from them >> works great! > >I'm glad you got a good one, but why should he have "went" to Home >Depot? Are the ones sold at Home Depot designed differently or made at a >different factory than the Maytags sold at other retail outlets ??? Yep! Article: 324757 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbelly Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! Message-ID: References: <11lrgeu6144t1da@corp.supernews.com> <1130244016.925688.121830@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130252600.772769.325100@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <435e63c6$0$213$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:23:20 -0400 On 25 Oct 2005 11:59:01 -0500, CalBubba wrote: >Peter Wieck wrote: >> When we were in Turkey a couple of years ago, they were very proud of >> the fact that they made cars, buses, appliances and most everything >> else a "real European" country makes... or so said the Taxi Driver. And >> the Taxi (Turkish) ran fairly well. The narrow gauge Istiklal Trolley >> Cars were little gems. Istanbul is also one of the cleaner cities you >> might ever visit, and you will notice one other peculiarity: Stray dogs >> and cats are spayed, vetted and collared, and usually >> (color-permitting) a dye-spot is put on one flank to differentiate them >> from untreated animals. Accordingly, they are generally healthy, >> friendly and entirely unaggressive, at least based on our considerable >> wanderings during a week spent in the city. >> >> Peter Wieck >> Wyncote, PA >> >I'm going to start a new "OT" about this issue. A new twist. >Bubba Maybe Petey should move back if he likes it so much. Article: 324758 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbelly Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! Message-ID: References: <11lrgeu6144t1da@corp.supernews.com> <1130244016.925688.121830@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130252600.772769.325100@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <435e63c6$0$213$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <1130263672.196091.299340@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:24:07 -0400 On 25 Oct 2005 11:07:52 -0700, "toxcrusadr" wrote: >I knew there was SOMEthing about Turkey...check today's news. > >DIYARBAKIR, Turkey (Reuters) - A Turkish court fined 20 people for >using the letters Q and W on placards at a Kurdish new year >celebration, under a law banning characters not used in the Turkish >alphabet, rights campaigners said Tuesday. > >The court in the southeastern city of Siirt fined each of the 20 people >100 new lira for holding up the placards, written in Kurdish, at the >event last year. The letters Q and W do not exist in the Turkish >alphabet, but are used in Kurdish. > >Complete story: >http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2005-10-25T140252Z_01_EIC550544_RTRUKOC_0_US-TURKEY-KURDS.xml > >So much for the free speech thing. I figured I'd rot in prison after >being framed as a drug dealer. I had no idea the alphabet could land >you there. > >:-) > >Tox That sounds like the middle east I know! haha! Article: 324759 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" Subject: Noisy IF can in S53? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:24:41 -0230 Circa 1955; Hallicrafter S53, 1st IF can seems noisy and sometimes microphonic. IF primary is in plate of 6BA6 freq. changer. (455 kHz.) Remove 6BA6 noise disappears completely . Replace 6BA6 and shunt its plate to ground through 0.1 mfd. cap, noise almost disappears. Shunt the secondary output winding of the IF can and or the grid of next stage (1st IF tube), to ground through ).1 mfd. noise disappears. Looks like noise is within the IF can? Haven't opened it yet but could be silver migration or bad/corroded coil connection from B+ through IF primary, or summat? Would welcome any advice re Hallicrafters' IF cans? Article: 324760 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <11lrgeu6144t1da@corp.supernews.com> <1130244016.925688.121830@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:06:20 -0400 "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1130244016.925688.121830@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > The brute fact of the matter is that US corporations are largely driven > by Wall Street and quarterly earnings reports. Unless they have VERY > deep pockets (such as GE), or are highly diverse (such as Whirlpool), > they simply do not have the internal means to both make millions for > their executives _and_ satisfy the short-term needs of Wall Street. > Read the Ralph Hake/Maytag story since about the end of 2003 or so (He > took over in 2001). He pretty much ran the place into the ground by > focusing on short-term goals.... And.... > Snip > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > The "Big Box" stores are just as merciless as Wall Street. You can bet those companies are told up front how much their appliances will be sold for; and that pretty much sets their profit margins and quality from the get-go. I've seen several local Cub Cadet dealers go under when the tractors started appearing in those stores. They were actually selling them for LESS than what the small family owned dealerships were paying for them. The quality suffered. RadioShack is another company that you'd better have a real sharp pencil before contracting with. Pete Article: 324761 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1130163687.213456.296140@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130169046.039750.319060@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130199603.092609.178990@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1130263710.090687.188330@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Shouldn't this Zenith Baby Strat be up in the thousands by now? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:14:50 -0400 "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1130263710.090687.188330@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > not a chance. what i don't understand is why he didn't just do the > correct one if he was going to spend all that time on it. or pay the > 200.00 that alan j. gets for one. > Probably didn't know it was available, or didn't care... the finish looks surprisingly decent--I'd like to see that one in person. I could deal with the grille replacement considering the overall apparent condition of the set. Pete Article: 324762 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <11ln61inem3vd68@corp.supernews.com> <1130094126.995353.142730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11lnql3ict1qme0@corp.supernews.com> <2A47f.27402$sJ5.647387@wagner.videotron.net> <4bKdnTcYc4T88sDeRVn-qg@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Orange Drops Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:16:17 -0400 "Syl" wrote in message news:Tlh7f.38666$sJ5.968801@wagner.videotron.net... > Exactly. Parallel, and being on the same axis are mutually exclusive. Pete Article: 324763 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: What's worth buying? Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:13:40 -0600 Message-ID: References: <435e66f3$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> ah come on guys. the country has voted and spoken. we dont want those manufacturing jobs here. we're all gonna be engineers and design things. randy "CalBubba" wrote in message news:435e66f3$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com... > We've shared our horror stories about poor-quality American home > appliances here lately. We've seen the results in our own homes of > mergers, acquisitions, bottom line fever, and huge executive salaries. > When I buy a Maytag washer, am I buying a washing machine, or am I making > a donation right into the CEO's pocket? > > My friend's Amana washing machine literally collapsed. I noticed the > paper-thin steel of his replacement Sears/Whirlpool; and the flimsiness of > its timer. His (Mexican) GE/Sears stove wouldn't boil water. My own > Sears/Whirlpool damages clothing. Its timer sticks at two points. > > Let's try this another way. Based on _very recent purchases_: > > Is there any domestic American brand that's delivering decent products? > What should we buy? > > I believe in buying American as much as possible, but have we finally > turned the corner of no return? In other words, no matter how patriotic, > are we shooting ourselves in the feet by not buying foreign? > > Finally, I know of a man who has built a really good business rebuilding > _only_ Whirlpool/Sears washers and dryers made 7 years ago and back. > > Back to my bottom line question: in self defense, what is worth buying? > > Bubba Article: 324764 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Wire recorders Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:16:42 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1130098781.935794.43600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130104544.680589.110800@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4wU6f.3021$HW5.1335@trnddc04> <1130179947.814038.28420@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "jakdedert" wrote in message news:Fxr7f.4024$ty1.3010@bignews1.bellsouth.net... > Tim Mullen wrote: >> In <1130179947.814038.28420@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "toxcrusadr" >> writes: >> >> >>>I read that in a sci fi novel. I think it's an intriguing idea, but I >>>can't believe there would be enough acoustic power or (especially) >>>"resolution" using a stick in the clay, to get anything recognizable. >>>Imagine the noise and rumble of the spinning table! >> >> >> A few years back I saw an episode of one of those (Friendly) Aliens >> Amongst Us cheesy sci-fi shows where the Good Alien recovered a >> conversation from some oil paintings in the artist's apartment. >> Fun idea, but, no, can't see how that would work. Inkjet printer >> for sound? :) >> > Strange but true: researchers have proved to be able to decypher the > actual script typed on a computer by merely recording the sound of the > typist. They don't even need a representative sample of the sound of each > key. The process involves simply recording the sound of an anonymous > typist, typing text. > > A computer sorts out and separates the unique sound of each individual > key, then applies standard decryptogaphy techniques--mostly involving > frequency which a particular key is struck--to work out the text...to > something like 85-95% accuracy. its kind of an interseting science. given any letter, at any position in a word, there are actually very few possibilities for the next letter. given 2,3 or 4 letters together, you can be almost certain of the next letter. same for words. randy Article: 324765 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT: What's worth buying? References: <435e66f3$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <1130270657.104213.14150@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:24:16 -0500 Sofa Slug wrote: > I'm curious as to what version Whirlpool machine that you own... Assuming you're asking me - the Kenmore / Whirlpool was *the* top of the line 22 years ago... *very* heavy, built like a tank - yadda yadda. (I'm still thinking about putting a new spin clutch in it). The new Whirlpool is the model GSW9800PW Ultimate Care™ II System. > Having said all that, I do feel that there > is still a certain amount of luck involved in purchasing any new > product today, on or off-shore, partuclarly an expensive one. You can > research something to death and still end up with a turkey. Yeah- like Maytag - even with the net, it's taking a while for word to "get around" - and most of us would like to believe the "early" stories were "just a fluke" - against Maytag's LONG reputation. Then there is the notion that it only took Maytag a couple of years to go from the top of the heap - to the bottom... And as seldom as one (normally) buys such appliances - it's not like finding out Coke changed their formulae (again)... best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 324766 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! References: <11lrgeu6144t1da@corp.supernews.com> <1130244016.925688.121830@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130252600.772769.325100@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <435e63c6$0$213$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <1130266706.618152.134400@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130270876.832617.92490@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:30:07 -0500 toxcrusadr wrote: > or > New Awlins. :-) crap - I've been next door to cajun country for nearly a quarter century - and still I can barely catch what they're saying..8-} regarding envying world travelers - I guess it's a sign of being old - I'm perfectly content to stay put (in my younger days - I did enough traveling to last the rest of my life). best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 324767 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:44:22 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Wards Airline Radio References: <1130270545.312615.4280@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: toxcrusadr wrote: > Not sure if you are a radio collector, but if not, Rule #1, do not plug > it in to see if it works. It can be made to work again (looks to be in > great shape electronically and mechanically) by a qualified radio > technician, probably for $10 worth of parts. You run the risk of > burning out expensive or hard to find components if it's powered up > when not properly restored. Mine has two #45 tubes, which are getting > to be $20+ each even for used ones - if you know where to look. Take > good care of it. > > If you need help restoring it or want to hire someone to do it for you, > let us know and we will try to help. Your location would be helpful in > that case. > > Cheers, > > Tox > Nice looking console. I don't recognize the model either but as Tox suggests try browsing the Radio Attic under Montgomery-Ward, Airline or Wards. It will definitely need re-capping. If you're radio-savvy that can be fairly simple. There's some good beginner info at http://www.antiqueradio.org/ (site seems to come up when it feels like it) -Bill Article: 324768 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:55:56 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Wards Airline Radio References: <1130270545.312615.4280@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <2d8bb$435e9be0$4232bd3b$19715@COQUI.NET> Looks a lot like the Airline model shown here: http://radioatticarchives.com/images/a/Airline_62-152_(1935)_Wheeler.jpg Schematic is here, see if it matches: http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/297/M0011297.pdf GL, Bill Article: 324769 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Wire recorders Message-ID: References: <1130098781.935794.43600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130104544.680589.110800@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4wU6f.3021$HW5.1335@trnddc04> <1130179947.814038.28420@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:14:58 GMT But do you really think that the keys on a computer keyboard actually have unique sounds, given that they all actuate virtually identical membrane switches? I suppose that each individual keyboard, would with use, develop some distinctive sounds on some keys. They could always tell if it's me on the keyboard; the backspace key is very well used. Gordon Richmond Article: 324770 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: OT: What's worth buying? References: <435e66f3$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <1130264027.375273.216710@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:52:27 -0500 Peter Wieck wrote: > If the likes of Ford and GM don't get it, there is very little hope for > the rest of the US manufacturing base. Only a vanishingly few US-flag > companies have the committment of GE (whatever else you may think about > them) to their US base. But GE survives on innovation and has the deep > pockets to do it. > > We just purchased a 1987 VW Camper, with 187500 miles on it. The only > part on it not working properly on receipt was the power-window switch, > dirty. This includes stuff like the stove, refrigerator, battery and > water pumping systems, space heater... > > Certainly, Americans are fully capable of excellent work... look at any > Honda, Toyota or any of several other brands from US plants. And let's > not forget Sony televisions. > > But to get right to your point, limiting to US-Flag companies: > > Stihl is still the best-in-class > Caterpillar makes the best heavy equipment available, although they are > very much endangered by the likes of Volvo and others. > I do not think that heavy construction cranes are being manufactured in > the US any longer. > BATTERIES.... From flashlight to car, standard-technology batteries > from the US are still best-in-class. Also sealed lead-acid types. But > stray into high-tech stuff, and the lead shifts off-shore once again. > Locomotives. GE still makes the best units on earth for heavy lifting. > Passenger stuff... Germany and Japan. Steam: China. > Socks > Shoes, if one can afford them. > Hand Tools (Mac, Klein, Channel Lock, Snap-On) Granted most of the above--and below; where I have any direct knowledge, at least; but I have a set of Klein tools that I purchased 10 years ago. The fit & finish are 'just' above average. The strippers included in the set are junk, as are a couple of other pieces. The rest has held up well. By contrast, when I was in Germany in the 80's, I picked up a set of Wiha brand screwdrivers at a Bauhaus (sorta like Home Depot) store...probably cost around $10. The finish was superior to anything >from Klein. They've held up extremely well over almost 20 years, so I assume that the metal is good, as well. I just looked at one of the Phillips head drivers and could barely discern any wear on the tip--despite the fact that they've been my 'daily drivers' since I bought them. > Medical Equipment (but endangered) > Relays (endangered) > Electrical Switchgear (endangered) > Motors (endangered) > School buses > Heavy trucks > Viking stoves > JennAir > > > Put simply, not a lot of consumer stuff. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 324771 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: Subject: Re: Wards Airline Radio Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:48:59 GMT Odd, but I had at least two of them, one FRONT FULL, and FRONT DIAL, just come up blank! Not an error page but BLANK. "Wayne Tiffany" wrote in message news:djlru9$lsr$1@sadr.dfn.de... > I just recently became the proud owner of an old Wards Airline radio. You > can find pictures here www.kcswug.com/images all titled Don's radio. I > don't know a lot about it because the label inside the cabinet is not all > there. > > Does anyone know anything more about it than what you see in the pictures? > Is it a common radio, rare, etc? Worth anything? The cabinet is in good > shape as far as not coming apart. It shows some wear because the set was > used basically every day way back when. > > Any thoughts? > > WT > > Article: 324772 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <435e66f3$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Subject: Re: What's worth buying? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:52:09 GMT I abuse my 1996 Kenmore laundry pair worse than most. I have no clue why you have a problem. Article: 324773 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: Wire recorders References: <1130098781.935794.43600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130104544.680589.110800@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4wU6f.3021$HW5.1335@trnddc04> <1130179947.814038.28420@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:07:05 -0500 Gordon Richmond wrote: > But do you really think that the keys on a computer keyboard actually > have unique sounds, given that they all actuate virtually identical > membrane switches? > > I suppose that each individual keyboard, would with use, develop some > distinctive sounds on some keys. > > They could always tell if it's me on the keyboard; the backspace key > is very well used. > > Gordon Richmond "Researchers at UC Berkeley claim they can just listen to keyboard taps and piece together a 96% accurate reconstruction of English words typed — and 90% of all randomly generated five-character passwords within 20 tries. The techniques used are “relatively easy” using a $10 PC microphone, open source spelling and grammar correction tools, and some custom code written by the researchers which will almost certainly end up on a torrent soon. This all works ‘cause like a congo drum, keys slapped at different points along the plate under the keyboard emit different tones." Abstract of the original paper from: (there's a link to the paper itself, but it doesn't seem to work for me) "We examine the problem of keyboard acoustic emanations. We present a novel attack taking as input a 10-minute sound recording of a user typing English text using a keyboard, and then recovering up to 96% of typed characters. There is no need for a labeled training recording. Moreover the recognizer bootstrapped this way can even recognize random text such as passwords: In our experiments, 90% of 5-character random passwords using only letters can be generated in fewer than 20 attempts by an adversary; 80% of 10-character passwords can be generated in fewer than 75 attempts. Our attack uses the statistical constraints of the underlying content, English language, to reconstruct text from sound recordings without any labeled training data. The attack uses a combination of standard machine learning and speech recognition techniques, including cepstrum features, Hidden Markov Models, linear classification, and feedback-based incremental learning." Article: 324774 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <11lrgeu6144t1da@corp.supernews.com> <1130244016.925688.121830@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130252600.772769.325100@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <435e63c6$0$213$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <1130266706.618152.134400@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130270876.832617.92490@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130271153.065481.165900@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1130274782.153859.31890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! Message-ID: <91y7f.459$ZA3.120996@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:08:05 GMT Crappy appliances and cats in trees on binaries... I'll risk talking about fixing a stereo if it will only involve the word radio or turntable "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1130274782.153859.31890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Yeah, I figured, but I had fun with it too. > Article: 324775 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <11ln61inem3vd68@corp.supernews.com> <1130094126.995353.142730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11lnql3ict1qme0@corp.supernews.com> <6Gg7f.7417$8K4.4410@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <0eKdnQP5JYKOvcPeRVn-jA@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Orange Drops Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:09:44 -0400 "William Sommerwerck" a écrit dans le message de news: 0eKdnQP5JYKOvcPeRVn-jA@comcast.com... > > I'll let Sprague make the call, after all they are their capacitors. > > http://www.sbelectronics.com/productlines.htm > > Note the heading "Radial Leaded Film Capacitors, Orange Drop". > > I'm not responsible for the idiots at Sprague. Remember that most engineers > are poorly educated, especially in matters lingual. > > Inasmuch as a device's leads can be bent in any direction, what's the point > of saying that a device has "axial" or "radial" leads? None. It's where the > lead are _located_ that matters. > > The leads on an Orange Drop are located along the "axis" of the device, not > its radius. Case closed. This has to be the dumbest reply I've read from you so far. And you call yourself educated ? No wonder you're out of job. Syl Article: 324776 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <11lrgeu6144t1da@corp.supernews.com> <1130244016.925688.121830@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130252600.772769.325100@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <435e63c6$0$213$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <1130266706.618152.134400@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130270876.832617.92490@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:10:47 GMT "Randy or Sherry Guttery" wrote in message news:mzw7f.8234$ty1.3176@bignews1.bellsouth.net... > toxcrusadr wrote: > > > or > > New Awlins. :-) > > crap - I've been next door to cajun country for nearly a quarter century > - and still I can barely catch what they're saying..8-} > > regarding envying world travelers - I guess it's a sign of being old - > I'm perfectly content to stay put (in my younger days - I did enough > traveling to last the rest of my life). > > best regards... > -- > randy guttery > > A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews > so vital to the United States Silent Service: > http://tendertale.com The only difference is it's 40% easier for the world to know when you bite it in Whazzupistan. Article: 324777 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <11lrgeu6144t1da@corp.supernews.com> <1130244016.925688.121830@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130252600.772769.325100@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <435e63c6$0$213$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <1130263672.196091.299340@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:12:48 GMT "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1130263672.196091.299340@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I knew there was SOMEthing about Turkey...check today's news. > > DIYARBAKIR, Turkey (Reuters) - A Turkish court fined 20 people for > using the letters Q and W on placards at a Kurdish new year > celebration, under a law banning characters not used in the Turkish > alphabet, rights campaigners said Tuesday. > > The court in the southeastern city of Siirt fined each of the 20 people > 100 new lira for holding up the placards, written in Kurdish, at the > event last year. The letters Q and W do not exist in the Turkish > alphabet, but are used in Kurdish. > > Complete story: > http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2005-10-25T140252Z_01_EIC550544_RTRUKOC_0_US-TURKEY-KURDS.xml > > So much for the free speech thing. I figured I'd rot in prison after > being framed as a drug dealer. I had no idea the alphabet could land > you there. > > :-) > > Tox Campbell's sales must be wildly down Article: 324778 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Saul Rabinowitz Subject: Re: What's worth buying? References: <435e66f3$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Message-ID: <78y7f.847$te3.15989@typhoon.sonic.net> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:15:31 GMT Steven Dinius_ wrote: > I abuse my 1996 Kenmore laundry pair worse than most. I have no clue why you > have a problem. > Bubba asked specifically "Based on _very recent purchases_." It's obvious that he worded his question (and _underlined it like this_) precisely to rule out responses such as this one, based on your products made nine years ago. What's important is how to obtain a good appliance new, right now. Saul Article: 324779 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <435e66f3$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Subject: Re: What's worth buying? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:15:47 GMT Generally, stuff in tin cans are tops. Article: 324780 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: Subject: Re: rare Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:17:56 GMT How many for "well done"? "Haggis telus.net>" wrote in message news:D7s7f.53221$S4.31574@edtnps84... > Looking for something on the 'infamous auction' this morning I noticed how > many titles had "rare" in them. What I was looking for could be considered > "rare" I guess :-). Then in a rare free moment, I typed "rare" into the > search box - only 323921 items came up! No, I didn't continue. Does anyone > really search by 'rare' or 'vintage' or 'antique'? > > Haggis. Article: 324781 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Wire recorders Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:31:42 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1130098781.935794.43600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130104544.680589.110800@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4wU6f.3021$HW5.1335@trnddc04> <1130179947.814038.28420@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> In jakdedert writes: >"Researchers at UC Berkeley claim they can just listen to keyboard taps >and piece together a 96% accurate reconstruction of English words typed >— and 90% of all randomly generated five-character passwords within 20 >tries. The techniques used are “relatively easy” using a $10 PC >microphone, open source spelling and grammar correction tools, and some >custom code written by the researchers which will almost certainly end >up on a torrent soon. This all works ‘cause like a congo drum, keys >slapped at different points along the plate under the keyboard emit >different tones." This oughta fix their wagon: http://www.artlebedev.com/portfolio/optimus/ "Expecting Dvorak, were you?" Personally, I like the layout with the ATTACK key. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 324784 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Wire recorders Message-ID: References: <1130098781.935794.43600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130104544.680589.110800@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4wU6f.3021$HW5.1335@trnddc04> <1130179947.814038.28420@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 23:01:08 GMT I see now. Explained in that light, it does indeed make sense. I suppose some makes of keyboards are more susceptible to being so monitored than others. I can see a possible countermeasure, too. Use your computer's sound card to record the sounds made by all the different keystrokes, and then write a little program, incorporating a random-number generator, to play back a random keystroke-sound each time a key is struck, but louder, so the random sounds would swamp out the sounds of the actuall keys being struck. You could also glue a piece of sheet lead to the bottom of the keyboard; it's a fine resonance damper. Gordon Richmond Article: 324785 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Wire recorders Message-ID: References: <1130098781.935794.43600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130104544.680589.110800@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4wU6f.3021$HW5.1335@trnddc04> <1130179947.814038.28420@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 23:05:56 GMT That's actually a handsome keyboard, Tim. Is it actually on the market, or is it just a concept at this point? One thing it lacks is a nifty feature that was on a keyboard I used to use, but wore out. A little LCD screen right above the numeric keypad, with a key that you could toggle to turn the numeric keypad into a basic four-function calculator. I used that a lot,and wish I could find another keyboard with that feature; it was handy as all get-out. Gordon Richmond Article: 324786 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Wire recorders Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 23:31:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1130098781.935794.43600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130104544.680589.110800@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4wU6f.3021$HW5.1335@trnddc04> <1130179947.814038.28420@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> In Gordon Richmond writes: >That's actually a handsome keyboard, Tim. Is it actually on the >market, or is it just a concept at this point? They claim next year: http://www.artlebedev.com/portfolio/optimus/answers/ Here's one of my favorite keyboards: http://daskeyboard.com/ (I like black. :) No way could I really use this thing, though. Sure would keep (most) other people from borrowing your machine. >One thing it lacks is a nifty feature that was on a keyboard I used to >use, but wore out. A little LCD screen right above the numeric keypad, >with a key that you could toggle to turn the numeric keypad into a >basic four-function calculator. I used that a lot,and wish I could >find another keyboard with that feature; it was handy as all get-out. ??? Isn't that what your computer's for? Normally I use bc (faster), but when I feel the need there's about a dozen different X-window calculators. Surely, someone must've written one for the OS and window system you're using. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 324787 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: Subject: Re: Don't miss... Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 23:37:13 GMT Thanks Dan! I'm watching it. "Daniele" wrote in message news:Vzy7f.31395$Pe2.597267@twister2.libero.it... > ...this book: ebay item 6572137989 > I've the same, i'd scan it but i can't find > the time for it, maybe for incoming winter. > Great 'clearly speaking' book and is not > about single models/brands. > A 'must' near your bench. > > -- > > Daniele ^___^ > http://www.tuberadio.it > > Article: 324788 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: Subject: Re: FL hurricane kills email & web domain in WA Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 23:38:46 GMT Rodents love large power conduits...ask the stations in Boise about that. "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:N7WdnfA24uzZM8PeRVn-sw@giganews.com... > Although I live in the Pacific NW, thousands of miles from southern Florida, > I have been without email for the last couple of days, and my website has > been dead for roughly the same time, even though email comes via satellite > from one company and my website domain is hosted by another company. > > Apparently, they both have servers located in the power outage zone :-) > Maybe I should shop around for companies whose servers are located in, say, > Saskatchewan. > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > > > Article: 324789 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <435e66f3$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <78y7f.847$te3.15989@typhoon.sonic.net> Subject: Re: What's worth buying? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 23:41:19 GMT I obviously don't have to, nor do I want to if I can repair and maintain it. Case closed No problems here, move along "Saul Rabinowitz" wrote in message news:78y7f.847$te3.15989@typhoon.sonic.net... > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > I abuse my 1996 Kenmore laundry pair worse than most. I have no clue why you > > have a problem. > > > > Bubba asked specifically "Based on _very recent purchases_." > > It's obvious that he worded his question (and _underlined it like this_) > precisely to rule out responses such as this one, based on your products > made nine years ago. What's important is how to obtain a good appliance > new, right now. > > Saul Article: 324790 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130098781.935794.43600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130104544.680589.110800@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4wU6f.3021$HW5.1335@trnddc04> <1130179947.814038.28420@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wire recorders Message-ID: <_pz7f.469$ZA3.122558@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 23:42:50 GMT Just whap the shit out of it when typing and make lots of mistakes. They'll give up. Article: 324791 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:43:36 -0600 Message-ID: <25780-435EC328-1043@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: Guess one should never buy a Mayfag then ! When i first moved here and went to work with my brother .. Whirlpool was always the most dependable and favorable machine to work on . I work for an outfit that gets Costco salvage and i have seen and worked on many dozen Kirkland / Whirlpool washers and dryers . 98% of the problems were simple such as a childs sock that ended up in the pump or a broken lid switch or a broken plastic motor link . I never see Maytag but have had in a few GE . GE put a metal bottom on their washers that is very thin . If someone lets the foot of a hand truck push up onto the bottom of one of these it bends in and then the pully inside the machine scrapes on it . I have fixed several . We seldom get back a Whirlpool washer where i work and if we do its normally always a small sock in the pump .. a 5 minute fix . Article: 324792 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: FL hurricane kills email & web domain in WA Message-ID: <5Kz7f.1772$yX2.158@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:04:17 GMT I live in Southwest Florida. I have my website, my e-mail, and all my other faculties including electricity. I was listening to those hurricane updates on my Atwater-Kent. If I'd've been watching TV, I'd be scared . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:N7WdnfA24uzZM8PeRVn-sw@giganews.com... > Although I live in the Pacific NW, thousands of miles from southern > Florida, I have been without email for the last couple of days, and my > website has been dead for roughly the same time, even though email comes > via satellite from one company and my website domain is hosted by another > company. > > Apparently, they both have servers located in the power outage zone :-) > Maybe I should shop around for companies whose servers are located in, > say, Saskatchewan. > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > > > Article: 324793 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <11ln61inem3vd68@corp.supernews.com> <1130094126.995353.142730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11lnql3ict1qme0@corp.supernews.com> <6Gg7f.7417$8K4.4410@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <0eKdnQP5JYKOvcPeRVn-jA@comcast.com> <6PSdnS99489tWsPenZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Orange Drops Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:08:07 GMT I'm definitely buying an orange, not dropping it "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:6PSdnS99489tWsPenZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > The only thing closed here is your mind. > > I find it amazing that the people in this (and other groups) don't have > broken jaws -- because when you suggest something that's even remotely > different from what they think, their knees jerk instantly, and with great > force. > > Article: 324794 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: FL hurricane kills email & web domain in WA Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:38:34 +0900 Message-ID: References: <5Kz7f.1772$yX2.158@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:5Kz7f.1772$yX2.158@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... >I live in Southwest Florida. I have my website, my e-mail, and all my >other faculties including electricity. I was listening to those hurricane >updates on my Atwater-Kent. > > If I'd've been watching TV, I'd be scared . . . > I think that stupidity is a prerequisite to be a television field reporter.. idiots standing out in 100+ MPH winds waiting to see if they get blown over (one did), standing in Everglade City as the storm surge (which was supposed to top 9 feet) started coming up over their feet, etc.. Now there's a way to get a scoop... "XYZ Network field reporter Mortimer Snerd drowns in storm surge after being electrocuted by waterlogged video equipment!" Article: 324795 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Wire recorders Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:05:15 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1130098781.935794.43600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130104544.680589.110800@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4wU6f.3021$HW5.1335@trnddc04> <1130179947.814038.28420@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "Gordon Richmond" wrote in message news:lkdtl190atuvqva2crrk076f44bur4e8p9@4ax.com... >I see now. > > Explained in that light, it does indeed make sense. I suppose some > makes of keyboards are more susceptible to being so monitored than > others. > > I can see a possible countermeasure, too. Use your computer's sound > card to record the sounds made by all the different keystrokes, and > then write a little program, incorporating a random-number generator, > to play back a random keystroke-sound each time a key is struck, but > louder, so the random sounds would swamp out the sounds of the actuall > keys being struck. or just play metallica louder than the keys... randy Article: 324796 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <11ln61inem3vd68@corp.supernews.com> <1130094126.995353.142730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11lnql3ict1qme0@corp.supernews.com> <6Gg7f.7417$8K4.4410@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <0eKdnQP5JYKOvcPeRVn-jA@comcast.com> <55CdnXLsm7oqVMPeRVn-gA@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Orange Drops Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:04:50 -0400 "William Sommerwerck" a écrit dans le message de news: 55CdnXLsm7oqVMPeRVn-gA@comcast.com... > > This has to be the dumbest reply I've read from you so far. > > And you call yourself educated? No wonder you're out of job. > > I'm one hell of a lot better educated than you are. And what's worse (from > your point of view) is that I actually use my intelligence -- something most > people don't do. I doubt it but if makes you feel superior, so be it. Now I want to see any U prof. endorsing your definition of axial and radial and I _may_ change my mind about your "education". I won't hold my breath though... > By the way, I am employed. I'm at HP, and one of things I'm doing is > cleaning up the dreadful writing in the Helpdesk documentation. I was hire > to do that. Well, that IS good news. You should offer your services to IBM too, they need it badly and this would secure your near future, at least for a coupla years. They also badly need competent helpdesk techs... Syl Article: 324797 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <435e66f3$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <78y7f.847$te3.15989@typhoon.sonic.net> <1130287210.417314.276050@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: What's worth buying? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:25:44 -0400 "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1130287210.417314.276050@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Best to ignore the invincibly ignorant. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA And yet better to spend six bucks a month and get Consumers Reports online. Even if you don't agree with their recommendations, GAH-RON-TEED you will gain a better idea of the current issues at hand with many commodity items. Article: 324798 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: Subject: Re: FL hurricane kills email & web domain in WA Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:29:01 -0400 "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:N7WdnfA24uzZM8PeRVn-sw@giganews.com... > > Maybe I should shop around for companies whose servers are located in, > say, Saskatchewan. What, in our Tornado Alley? There's nowhere safe for a server. Frank Article: 324799 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: Orange Drops Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:34:31 -0500 Message-ID: References: <11ln61inem3vd68@corp.supernews.com> <1130094126.995353.142730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11lnql3ict1qme0@corp.supernews.com> <6Gg7f.7417$8K4.4410@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <0eKdnQP5JYKOvcPeRVn-jA@comcast.com> On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 05:08:08 -0700 "William Sommerwerck" wrote: >The leads on an Orange Drop are located along the "axis" of the device, not >its radius. Case closed. If you would open up an Orange Drop, you would find that you are mistaken. The rolled film/foil is in the form of a pressed cylinder whose axis points left-right if you hold the capacitor in your hand with the leads pointing toward your stomach and the lettering facing your nose. Axial leads would have to point left right. Radial leads point along a radius of the cylinder, in this case, toward your belly button. It's clear that you think you're right about this, but at some point you should be starting to wonder why you can't find any confirmation of your point of view. I think all of us out here would be surprised if you could find a single example that supports your point of view, but at least most of us would listen. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 324800 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:10:39 -0400 Message-ID: <11ltpd1onkd0r34@corp.supernews.com> References: <435d9c23$0$191$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <17812-435DA930-970@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> <4ij7f.5325$NJ.3070@bignews7.bellsouth.net> Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote: > Extremely reliable. > But that was then - this is now. > > > So the - Maytag - M/N MAVT546EWW - stainless steel tub, 600 RPM spin, 20 > something cycles, infinitely variable water level, intelligent water > temp control (EnergyStar rated); electronic control for a huge set of > selectable features Randy- This is an old radio/phono forum. Do I really have to point out the real problem here ? I see nothing good in the list above. I always look for the most expensive device that still has almost no features (like Toyotas or Volvos- you pay more for the Spartan effect). You want hot-cold-warm, water level, gentle/regular- everything else is BAD- VERY VERY BAD. My friends who are mechanics all drive 1990 Hondas and Toyotas with crank windows and no power anything. Reliability equals fewer features. Features equal things to go wrong. Next time, buy a $300- Kenmore IMHO. John H. Article: 324801 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <1130271199.613451.219940@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Noisy IF can in S53? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 23:41:40 -0230 "nesesu" wrote in message news:1130271199.613451.219940@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Terry, this sounds like it is current driven since 'no plate current-no > noise'. Naturally, you have replaced the 6BA6 and checked the > connections from IF to tube pin [bad solder, corrosion on tube socket]. > Check the resistance across the coil [compared to the secondary] by > clipping onto connections away from the transformer [so as to not > deflect the pins and cover up the problem] and tapping the coil while > watching for any meter fluctuations. > Also, the noise could be coming from the B+ side of the coil since any > noise there will not couple through the transformer unless the 6BA6 is > drawing plate current--check the by-pass capacitors on that circuit. > This is less likely since the cap you put on the 6BA6 plate should have > made such noise worse. > > Neil S. > Thanks Neil. Current driven makes sense . Also to recheck everything around the 6BA6 which had been noisy (I also tested the tube and gave it a few good whacks and increased the heater voltage momentarily while in the 'emission-only' tester to try and detect 'shorts' or intermittents and also swapped it for another one) cleaned the tube socket and aligned the tube pins etc. Or maybe there is bad cap. in the B+ feed or the screen feed to the 6BA6. I think I should take everyone's? advice and just recap all the paper caps. There's a couple of British? TCCs in there from somewhere! and possibly an intermittent audio coupling 0.003! But BTW radio works well apart from the 'crackling' noise. Your help with the thought process much appreciated. At some point in history having replaced the original (Glass tube) 5Y3 with a JAN metal tube found that in manufacture Hallicrafters had used pin 1 of the rectifier socket as a B+ tie point; OUCH! Also I had replaced the original power transformer around 1957/58. Because, I was told, the radio had been sold to and plugged in on ship with a 115 volt DC system! Apparently transformers don't like DC! :-) The radio hadn't worked aboard ship and after the original transformer had got very hot and caught fire the radio was brought back to the store where I acquired it for next to nothing along with a Hammond replacement power transformer; which puts out B+ that is 50 to 60 volts higher than original spec! Article: 324802 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" Subject: How many of you own Mystery Control Radios? Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:12:59 -0500 Message-ID: <435ee62a$0$32206$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> I may have a working battery for them in the next few months. Check on binaries for more info. Bill Article: 324803 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: What's worth buying? Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:56:41 -0500 Message-ID: References: <435e66f3$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <78y7f.847$te3.15989@typhoon.sonic.net> On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:15:31 GMT Saul Rabinowitz wrote: >What's important is how to obtain a good appliance >new, right now. Most of what I currently own and use is 30+ years old, but I've often wondered about contemporary quality. I get nervous just thinking about it, and thus tend to keep repairing my old appliances when they break, which is seldom. Perhaps the answer to the question above is to look for used appliances. They're out there, and they are likely to be terrific bargains if you have any DIY tendencies at all. Otherwise, consult Consumer Reports. Each monthly issue has a cumulative index to everything they've reported on in the last 18 months. I know CR gets lots of criticism for not knowing enough about the products they test, but they are honest, and if you are willing to sit down a read the article they will tell you exactly what their test consisted of and what their rating criteria were. It's much better than just trying to pour thru the ad copy from each of the makers. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 324804 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <435e66f3$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Subject: Re: What's worth buying? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 23:48:13 -0230 "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message news:n8y7f.462$ZA3.121083@monger.newsread.com... > Generally, stuff in tin cans are tops. > > Err; generally the tops of cans are tin stuff? Article: 324805 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Stewart" Subject: FS: Dial Cover Business For Sale Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 02:24:55 GMT I am interested in selling the business www.dialcoversandmore.com. This business has produced high quality dial cover reproductions for about 10 years, originally owned by "RadioRita" for about 5 years, and by myself for another 5 years. This could be a good opportunity for a mechanically inclined person seeking a small, home based, internet business. You could also merge this with an existing business to form a larger enterprise. There is a monetary investment involved, and the business will not instantly pay that back. It may take a year or more to return your investment. The business includes everything required to produce high quality dial covers: The rights to the www.dialcoversandmore.com web site, the web hosting site and all the information contained. Large custom made molding machine with primary and secondary vacuum source. Over 200 dial cover molds that are guaranteed to fit over 400 different radio models. *** This indicates that there have been over 400 orders for dial covers with unique model numbers that have been completed and the customer was pleased with the results. The existing dial cover mold inventory will fit many more model numbers. Only guaranteed to fit dial covers have been listed on the web site. *** The dial cover molds each took an average of 3-5 hours of skilled labor to produce, and are made to tight dimensional tolerances. The cross-reference list between dial cover molds and radio model numbers. Over 50 radio knob molds made of RTV silicone rubber. All items, drill press, sander, small tools, boxes, etc required to make the business operate. One-on-one instruction on the creation of dial cover molds and dial covers. The items for the business are located in Austin, TX USA If interested, contact me at info@dialcoversandmore.com and include "business" in the subject line. All inquiries will be held in strict confidence and will not be posted on the Internet. All interested parties must agree that any further communication will be held in strict confidence and will not be posted on the Internet. Best Regards, Mike Stewart Article: 324806 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Orange Drops Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:24:56 -0400 Message-ID: <11ltq7p1ttn371a@corp.supernews.com> References: <11ln61inem3vd68@corp.supernews.com> <1130094126.995353.142730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11lnql3ict1qme0@corp.supernews.com> <6Gg7f.7417$8K4.4410@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <0eKdnQP5JYKOvcPeRVn-jA@comcast.com> As founder of this thread, I'm amazed at how it has grown. I just started it to stir the pot humorously. I still have dozens of 5 cent vintage Hosfelt orange drop. I use them in TV's, AA5's, and filter cans (By the way TVs and AA5s looks incredibly stupid and confusing, the apostrophe is essential.) Has anyone mentioned it is the leads orientation to the axis of the WIND of the foil IIRC that cap makers are referring to? Aligned- axial 90 degree opposed- radial John H. Article: 324807 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Dial Cover Business For Sale Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:29:44 -0400 "Mike Stewart" wrote in message news:XNB7f.28772$GQ.21153@tornado.texas.rr.com... > I am interested in selling the business www.dialcoversandmore.com. > This business has produced high quality dial cover reproductions for > about 10 years, originally owned by "RadioRita" for about 5 years, > and by myself for another 5 years. > > Wow. This is sad news. With Bill Turner still recovering, who's left out there providing these services? Pete Article: 324808 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Dial Cover Business For Sale Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:45:10 -0400 Message-ID: <11ltrdorkonkg90@corp.supernews.com> References: Uncle Peter wrote: > > > > Wow. This is sad news. With Bill Turner still recovering, who's left out > there providing these services? There hasn't been anyone for months, Peter. I've resorted to making my own. None of the hobby stores here have acetate sheet, none remember ever having it. I use blister pack stock instead, actually a "stepping stone mold" from the craft store cut up, which is made from a heavier version of such blister-pack plastic. John H. Article: 324809 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: What's worth buying? Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:48:28 -0400 Message-ID: <11ltrjt79geq6be@corp.supernews.com> References: <435e66f3$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <78y7f.847$te3.15989@typhoon.sonic.net> Saul Rabinowitz wrote: > What's important is how to obtain a good appliance > new, right now. > > Time machine? H bombing China? John H. Article: 324810 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT - Really OT - but sheesh what a mess! References: <435d9c23$0$191$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <17812-435DA930-970@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> <4ij7f.5325$NJ.3070@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <11ltpd1onkd0r34@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:12:39 -0500 Hagstar wrote: > Randy- > > This is an old radio/phono forum. Do I really have to point out the real > problem here ? I see nothing good in the list above. I always look for > the most expensive device that still has almost no features (like > Toyotas or Volvos- you pay more for the Spartan effect). You want > hot-cold-warm, water level, gentle/regular- everything else is BAD- VERY > VERY BAD. My friends who are mechanics all drive 1990 Hondas and Toyotas > with crank windows and no power anything. Reliability equals fewer > features. Features equal things to go wrong. So I take it from that you don't have any early SuperHets? Afterall they were WAY more complicated than a TRF... and TRFs received just fine. My point was - that quality (not technology) of certain products was (IMHO) headed towards rock bottom... There is nothing "gee whiz" about a finger faucet (it's just a switch to turn on the cold water valve). If its installed wrong - then it's the implimentation - not the technology that's at fault. The "real problem" is technology? A tuning eye in 1936 was about as "GEEWHIZ" as ICs today. Yet - when installed correctly, using reasonable quality parts - they are pretty reliable. Were even in 1936. A 1920s radio made with square nails with copper wire wound around them for connections (rather than solder joints) sure wouldn't have lasted any longer than crappy welds today. What "technology" was in the 1920s radio was / is irrelevant to how well they were assembled. According to you we should have eschewed superhets after all - they were surly more "trouble prone" than TRFs since they contained many more parts than the TRF - which received stations "well enough". No, technology isn't the culprit here - crappy craftsmanship, cutting too many corners with poor quality design, implementation and materials is the problem. > Next time, buy a $300- Kenmore IMHO. Why? What advantage has a $300 Kenmore (made by Whirlpool) over my $500 Whirlpool? Does it have a lifetime warranty porcelain on steel basket - or a piece of plastic warranted for a year? (the outer tub is 10 years). Does it have a five year warranty on the gearcase/transmission? Does it have a 3 speed motor that can slow way down to wash delicates without damage - or does it agitate like a jack hammer? Does it have a second rinse and spin to get ALL of the detergent out (that Sherry is sensitive to)? Does it have EnergyStar rated features (Accuwash and infinite water level settings) that saves me money everytime I use it - and will more than make up the $200 difference well before it wears out??? Not a chance. Oh - and I drive a 1987 Honda Accord - that came stock with power windows, retracting headlights, remote trunk release, remote gas filler door release, remote side mirrors, tilt steering wheel, remote hood release, power steering, power brakes, air conditioning, etc. all of which still works. It ain't "the gadgets" it's how they're made. Which was - and is -- my point. Be penny wise & pound foolish if you wish - I like a good return on my money. -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 324811 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: New Orthophonic Hi Fi, RCA model SHF-9 From: lherault@bu.edu References: <435c3307_5@newsfeed.slurp.net> <435d8956_1@newsfeed.slurp.net> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 03:16:43 GMT Message-ID: <435ef464$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net> Thanks, I got that one OK. Ron L Article: 324812 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbelly Subject: Who the hell cares about washing machines anyway? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 23:31:34 -0400 At least the stupid ass orange drop thread is on topic! Even if it has turned into one of the stupidest arguments I have yet to see here. And you guys make fun of Steven......hahaha Article: 324813 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:01:25 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Dial Cover Business For Sale References: <11ltrdorkonkg90@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <4a4c5$435eff98$4232bde6$32440@COQUI.NET> Hagstar wrote: > > > There hasn't been anyone for months, Peter. I've resorted to making my > own. None of the hobby stores here have acetate sheet, none remember > ever having it. I use blister pack stock instead, actually a "stepping > stone mold" from the craft store cut up, which is made from a heavier > version of such blister-pack plastic. > > John H. > I understand a fella named Doyle Roberts is making them now. John, Micromark has the heat moldable sheets. -Bill Article: 324814 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <11ln61inem3vd68@corp.supernews.com> <1130094126.995353.142730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11lnql3ict1qme0@corp.supernews.com> <6Gg7f.7417$8K4.4410@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <0eKdnQP5JYKOvcPeRVn-jA@comcast.com> <1130260609.015627.99730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1130292849.304925.56340@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Orange Drops Message-ID: <2nD7f.481$ZA3.126633@monger.newsread.com> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 04:12:46 GMT "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1130292849.304925.56340@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Oh, good LORD.... Damn, you are psychic, Peter. Article: 324815 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <435e66f3$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <78y7f.847$te3.15989@typhoon.sonic.net> <1130287210.417314.276050@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: What's worth buying? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 04:13:40 GMT Bullshit. They always win. "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1130287210.417314.276050@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Best to ignore the invincibly ignorant. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 324816 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130098781.935794.43600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130104544.680589.110800@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4wU6f.3021$HW5.1335@trnddc04> <1130179947.814038.28420@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wire recorders Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 04:16:07 GMT "xrongor" wrote in message news:djmkoa$6ovt$1@news3.infoave.net... > > "Gordon Richmond" wrote in message > news:lkdtl190atuvqva2crrk076f44bur4e8p9@4ax.com... > >I see now. > > > > Explained in that light, it does indeed make sense. I suppose some > > makes of keyboards are more susceptible to being so monitored than > > others. > > > > I can see a possible countermeasure, too. Use your computer's sound > > card to record the sounds made by all the different keystrokes, and > > then write a little program, incorporating a random-number generator, > > to play back a random keystroke-sound each time a key is struck, but > > louder, so the random sounds would swamp out the sounds of the actuall > > keys being struck. > > or just play metallica louder than the keys... > > randy MASTER OF PUPPETS! Better yet BRING THE NOISE... > > Article: 324817 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <435e66f3$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Subject: Re: What's worth buying? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 04:17:29 GMT "Terry" wrote in message news:pHB7f.5612$ki7.320207@news20.bellglobal.com... > > "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message > news:n8y7f.462$ZA3.121083@monger.newsread.com... > > Generally, stuff in tin cans are tops. > > > > > Err; generally the tops of cans are tin stuff? You a billy goat? You take those, green peas for me. Article: 324818 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <435e66f3$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <78y7f.847$te3.15989@typhoon.sonic.