Article: 329389 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: RCA Tombstones - what's with the eye screws? Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:13:33 +0100 Message-ID: <0d93ee5a1e6ae91df674cebac13c0128@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: eye screws on the inside of the cabinet, toward the front, ** My 6T2 doesn't have them, just upholstery tacks where someone had added a homebrew antenna. I've had several radios with screw eyes and they have always added by owners who wound loop antennas through them. -Pete Article: 329390 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: Re: Marshall 4140 Amp question Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:13:00 -0000 Message-ID: References: <1137598755.585052.215500@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote in message news:1137598755.585052.215500@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I will check a couple of my amps tonight and see what the primary > _resistance_ is on the output transformers. One uses a pair of EL-34s > each channel, the other a pair of 6550s each channel. They are > audio-amps, not guitar amps, but the readings should be similar.... > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Probably doesn't have any shorted turns and is OK. I put a 1KHz AC LCR meter on the coils and it comes out to 32 Henries for each half. I wonder what guage of wire to give only 15 ohms for all those turns. Article: 329391 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" References: Subject: Re: Thermistor to delay B+ voltage build up. Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:50:04 -0500 But why use a thermistor and additional parts to replace readily available $5 (NEW) tube which provides the appropriate delay and voltage as designed? That being said, I have used thermistors or "inrush current limiters" to protect valuable AC radios that use directly heated rectifiers and that are played infrequently. I use the CL90 available from Mouser (527-CL90) rated at 120 ohms cold and 2 amps. I place them, along with a slow-blow inline fuse, in the PRIMARY of the power transformer. Dave "Terry" wrote in message news:lpvzf.13789$xk1.347340@news20.bellglobal.com... > When diodes are used in place of a tube rectifier (full wave power > transformer circuit) I understand the danger is that B+ is applied > immediately upon switch-on, at peak voltage, before the operating circuit > tubes have had a chance to heat up and draw current. Thereafter the B+ > voltage 'settles' to the operating value? > > Was it here that somebody mentioned using a thermistor in the B- return to > the power transformer centre tap as a means, in such cases, to delay the > voltage rise? > > If so? > a) What type thermistor might be suitable for an eight tube military > receiver circuit that draws less than 100 ma? > b) Intending to build a plug in adaptor incorporating two diodes, a fuse and > a dropping resistor as a totally reversible modification to a circuit > presently employing a 6X5 (6.3 v @ 0.6 a) tube rectifier; could the > thermistor be in series with the B+ output to the filter circuit and work in > the same manner > > Not very familiar with 'thermistors'; thought they were temperature > dependent/sensing semi conductor device. Not a self-heating thermal-delay > switch/relay? > > Would appreciate advice/comment. Terry > > Article: 329392 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1137613486.492052.256630@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Thermistor to delay B+ voltage build up. Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:24:23 -0500 NTC Inrush Current Limiters are best at reducing the intial surge current on rectifiers and capacitors, and damage to tube fialaments at turn on. They will be at operating temperature, and minimum resistance, long before any of the cathode heated tubes are at operating temperature. Not enough time delay action for your needs. Pete Article: 329393 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Tiny Admiral Found Message-ID: References: <1137380549.244653.252630@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1137582994.125754.155730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:37:30 GMT Why is it, whenever I see this thread, I have visions of a tragic shipwreck involving the flagship of the Lilliputian navy? Gordon Richmond Article: 329394 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: Re: Marshall 4140 Amp question Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:40:45 -0000 Message-ID: References: <1137598755.585052.215500@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137617003.183770.95170@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote in message news:1137617003.183770.95170@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > My thoughts are that a guitar amp which spends most of its time driven > to distortion will have transformers able to take considerable abuse > without failure. So, I expect it to be much lower than an audio amp > (which I will check anyway). > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > I found this in the archives, putting matching transformer henries ohms as keywords in google usenet, on a guitar group "Primary winding, by direct meter measurement with a Fluke 8600-A: DCR Blue side to center tap = 44.91 ohms DCR Brown side to center tap = 51.03 ohms " I assume DCR is DC resistance of that matching transformer. Mine was measuring 14 and 15.5 ohms which seemed a bit unbalanced but no worse than this example Article: 329395 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Marshall 4140 Amp question Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:44:04 -0400 Message-ID: <11sth5vhuvc5c0b@corp.supernews.com> References: <1137598755.585052.215500@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137617003.183770.95170@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> n cook wrote: > > I assume DCR is DC resistance of that matching transformer. > Mine was measuring 14 and 15.5 ohms which seemed a > bit unbalanced but no worse than this example > > One side of center will have more DC resistance because more wire is required for the same number of windings. GL, Bill Article: 329396 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Tiny Admiral Found References: <1137380549.244653.252630@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:05:46 GMT I think you made a great find. These sets are quite collectible. I would snap one of these up for $50 in good shape. RadioGary wrote: > On a recent trip to an antique mall, I stumbled upon what I thought was > a toy or a reproduction transistor radio. Closer inspection proved me > wrong. It's an Admiral 7T03E. What caught my eye is it's size. It's > a small bakelite set with five tubes, a hum, and measures only 4in > high, 6in wide, and about 3 in deep. Looks like a common bakelite set > from the 40's, but smaller. I couldn't resist it's tiny size as well > as it's price tag of only ten bucks. I haven't seen any references to > this in any of the radio books I have, or online. I'm wondering if > this is a rarity, novelty set, or maybe a big bakelite set had a baby!! > Awwww, it's so cute!! GB > Article: 329397 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: <43cdf091.57558455@news-server.kc.rr.com> <0Zpzf.7151$bF.716@dukeread07> Subject: Re: TRS-80 Dancing Demon (OT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:21:59 GMT Guess the trs-80 was way over your skill level back then huh? Why don't you go to your own newsgroup that only you could see? That way you can moderate it all by yourself. " Uncle Peter" radioconnection@cox.net wrote in message news:0Zpzf.7151$bF.716@dukeread07... > Yeah. OT, no FA:, and you're probably shilling your own crap here. > So much for the theory about the newsgroup name self-moderating > crap auction links. > > > "Mister Transistor" wrote in message > news:43cdf091.57558455@news-server.kc.rr.com... >> Well this is off topic but so very cool >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8751797685 >> >> Check out the Dancing Demon movie link in the auction! Brings back >> memories! No floppy disk drive for storage on that bad boy..just 110 >> baud cassette tape! >> >> >> > > Article: 329398 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Thermistor to delay B+ voltage build up. Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:24:11 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1137628255.402497.65440@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Engineer" wrote in message news:1137628255.402497.65440@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Any thermistor I know of will still allow the reservoir cap. to charge > to Vpeak well before the tubes heat up, and it will do this with > filament rectifiers as well as solid state. You need another way... > but I don't know a Q&D one, i.e. cheap! > Cheers, > Roger Why not set up a circuit using a triac and a simple R/C time constant to deliver the trigger voltage? Article: 329399 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: VHF antenna thingy-JEFF? References: <43cbb466@kcnews01> <43cbb853$0$8276$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Message-ID: <80Bzf.948$Z3.945@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:25:40 GMT Thanks Bruce, I talked with Clarke this afternoon. I'm pretty sure I have what he was looking for. Jeff Bruce Mercer wrote: > Thanks for the information guys. I've turned him over to Jeff. > Bruce > > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329400 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Free Stuff In S.E. PA References: <43CD5F03.60607@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:27:15 GMT Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Yes, I've been getting bounced messages, but not all the time. I'm not sure what's bouncing, it could be the return-receipt email request that's bouncing. I got your email this afternoon and replied. You can find the information on my web site. http://www.grendel.com Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329401 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Slightly OT -- Antenna Rotator controls References: <1137600261.939346.71160@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137608527.967478.223810@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:31:34 GMT Terry S wrote: > One of them is identical to your 2nd pic. Another is older, small > meter. Different style. Oooohers, any chance of emailing me a picture? I'd probably be interested in it. (or both) Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329402 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1137507930.021259.181480@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: huge lot 78rpm records-Ebay Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:35:00 GMT "the MAGNATE" wrote in message news:1137507930.021259.181480@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZ66fourdoor > Are you still in the Scranton area? If so - are your items available for local pickup? -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery/Antique_radios and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 329403 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Arfa Daily" References: <1137598755.585052.215500@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137617003.183770.95170@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Marshall 4140 Amp question Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:58:58 GMT "n cook" wrote in message news:dqmg1m$8ne$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > Peter Wieck wrote in message > news:1137617003.183770.95170@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> My thoughts are that a guitar amp which spends most of its time driven >> to distortion will have transformers able to take considerable abuse >> without failure. So, I expect it to be much lower than an audio amp >> (which I will check anyway). >> >> Peter Wieck >> Wyncote, PA >> > > I found this in the archives, putting > matching transformer henries ohms > as keywords in google usenet, on a guitar group > > "Primary winding, by direct meter measurement with a Fluke 8600-A: > DCR Blue side to center tap = 44.91 ohms > DCR Brown side to center tap = 51.03 ohms " > > I assume DCR is DC resistance of that matching transformer. > Mine was measuring 14 and 15.5 ohms which seemed a > bit unbalanced but no worse than this example > > This may sound like a silly suggestion but ..... Why not just ring Jim Marshall, and ask ? They're only up in Milton Keynes, and are a pretty friendly company. FWIW, for a paralleled pair of EL34s in this application, I'd say that the readings you have obtained are fair. If it has been standing for a long time, I would strongly advise bringing the power up slowly on a variac. The main resevoir and smoothing caps, may not be in a state to accept HT right away, and might need reforming. If you are a reader of " Television " magazine, look out for the new one that will be coming out at the end of March. It's going to be called " Technology @ Home ", and when I get round to it, you can read my ramblings on repairs to valved group and PA amps. Arfa Article: 329404 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Dual Turntables Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 01:19:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1137571358.060010.288650@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In "Gary Tayman" writes: >if you're really all that concerned, you can always stick a pad under the >record to lift it up. Now -- what you really need to do is measure the >optimum tracking angle with a micrometer, then compare it with the thickness >of the record you're playing. Remember that older LP's are thicker than >newer ones, and 45's have a label that's thicker than the recording area. >So taking all of this into account, you should have pads with various >thicknesses to compensate for the differing thicknesses of each and every >record you intend to play. This should be true for even a manual turntable. Or simply use an arm with variable VTA. Rather tangentially (cough, cough), there was a ceiling fan made in the twenties (I think) by Westinghouse (I think) that had variable pitch. You could twiddle the blades, while running, from full down draft to full up, and watch the fan speed up as you went thru the flat "feathered" position. Much fun. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 329405 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Thermistor to delay B+ voltage build up. Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:08:26 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1137628255.402497.65440@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:bsBzf.7257$bF.2474@dukeread07... > > "Brenda Ann" wrote in message > news:dqmlvm$95d$1@news2.kornet.net... >> >> "Engineer" wrote in message >> news:1137628255.402497.65440@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> > Any thermistor I know of will still allow the reservoir cap. to charge >> > to Vpeak well before the tubes heat up, and it will do this with >> > filament rectifiers as well as solid state. You need another way... >> > but I don't know a Q&D one, i.e. cheap! >> > Cheers, >> > Roger >> >> Why not set up a circuit using a triac and a simple R/C time constant to >> deliver the trigger voltage? >> >> > Brenda > > It might be overkill for what is so far a hypothetical question. Using an > indirectly heated rectifier would be the sanest approach for a vintage > piece of gear... On the other hand, if it is a vintage set and has > survived > for 60 years or more begs the question if there is a really a problem that > needs to be addressed? > > Pete Just commenting on the post. Never saw the OP. Article: 329406 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jim rozen Subject: Re: AK E-3 Spkr paint; Successful brown wrinkle match Date: 18 Jan 2006 17:48:58 -0800 Message-ID: References: In article , Pete_O says... >Also I been able to perfectly match the dark brown AK wrinkle paint (the >40's, 44's, etc)- Has anyone used the brown wrinkle paint that Kennedy sells for their toolboxes? Seems like a pretty good match. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== Article: 329407 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: AK E-3 Spkr paint; Successful brown wrinkle match Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:04:36 -0600 Message-ID: <27100-43CF01C4-1644@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: Get some of that thick wood graining paint like they used to put on those old automobile dashboards and thingys long ago. www.eastwood.com and www.hmn.com probally advertize it. You want to remove rust? (rust never sleeps) www.tinmantech.com cuhulin Article: 329408 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Slightly OT -- Antenna Rotator controls References: <1137600261.939346.71160@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137608527.967478.223810@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1137640743.884253.254500@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:27:29 GMT Thanks Jeff Terry S wrote: > Yeah Jeff, I'll dig out the camera this weekend and send you pictures. > > Terry. > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329409 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Shoreline Electronics" References: Subject: Re: Marshall 4140 Amp question Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:42:03 GMT What is the problem with the amp? -- ========================== Jeff Stielau Shoreline Electronics Repair 344 East Main Street Clinton,CT 06413 860-399-1861 860-664-3535 (fax) jstielau@snet.net ======================== "n cook" wrote in message news:dqldj7$dgf$1@inews.gazeta.pl... >I rarely deal with valve/tube amps and am more familiar with radio > output-matching transformers primary-windings having DC resistance of > windings of hundreds of ohms. > Been in a shed for years and no known history so treading cautiously. > Measuring the DC resistance of each side to centre tap of this Marshall > amp, > shows only about 15 ohm each way. > Amp is 100W o/p using 4 EL34 , two paralleled anodes going to each side of > this impedance matcher. > Does 15 ohm look right for each of these primary coils ? > Output resistance of about 2.5 and 4.5 for 4 and 8 ohm settings seems > fine. > > -- > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > > > From wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com Fri Jan 20 00:38:23 EST 2006 Article: 329410 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Dual Turntables From: Wayne Boatwright References: <1137571358.060010.288650@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: User-Agent: Xnews/2005.10.03 X-Face: '2=UjhX-y3vfeO94nyru(,e&{Lf^eJ&15S#rcuk:e{unjSRN4yZ69Z'ePMJsPO"6\s'iVZ0OZ>_ NNTP-Posting-Host: $$-cwgql-pmnxm9.newsgate.x-privat.org Date: 19 Jan 2006 05:14:33 +0100 Organization: X-Privat NNTP Server - http://www.x-privat.org Lines: 39 X-Complaints-To: abuse@x-privat.org Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.glorb.com!news.newsland.it!newsgate.x-privat.org!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:329410 On Wed 18 Jan 2006 06:19:26p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Tim Mullen? > In "Gary Tayman" > writes: > >>if you're really all that concerned, you can always stick a pad under >>the record to lift it up. Now -- what you really need to do is measure >>the optimum tracking angle with a micrometer, then compare it with the >>thickness of the record you're playing. Remember that older LP's are >>thicker than newer ones, and 45's have a label that's thicker than the >>recording area. So taking all of this into account, you should have pads >>with various thicknesses to compensate for the differing thicknesses of >>each and every record you intend to play. This should be true for even >>a manual turntable. > > Or simply use an arm with variable VTA. > > Rather tangentially (cough, cough), there was a ceiling fan made > in the twenties (I think) by Westinghouse (I think) that had variable > pitch. You could twiddle the blades, while running, from full down > draft to full up, and watch the fan speed up as you went thru the > flat "feathered" position. Much fun. > For many years the original Hunter ceiling fans had a manual mechanical adjustment that allowed adjustment of the blade pitch from blowing straignt down thru blowing straing up. The blade shafts were mounted on a collar. The collar had a lever that adjusted the pitch. As afar as Westinghouse, I don't know. However, I don't know how you'd make that adjustment with the fan actually running. -- Wayne Boatwright տլ ________________________________________ Okay, okay, I take it back! UnScrew you! Article: 329411 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Dual Turntables Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 04:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1137571358.060010.288650@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In Wayne Boatwright writes: >On Wed 18 Jan 2006 06:19:26p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Tim >Mullen? >> Rather tangentially (cough, cough), there was a ceiling fan made >> in the twenties (I think) by Westinghouse (I think) that had variable >> pitch. You could twiddle the blades, while running, from full down >> draft to full up, and watch the fan speed up as you went thru the >> flat "feathered" position. Much fun. >> >For many years the original Hunter ceiling fans had a manual mechanical >adjustment that allowed adjustment of the blade pitch from blowing straignt >down thru blowing straing up. The blade shafts were mounted on a collar. >The collar had a lever that adjusted the pitch. That's it! Hunter Adaptaires. >As afar as Westinghouse, I don't know. Nah, I was wrong about that. AFAIK. >However, I don't know how you'd make that adjustment with the fan >actually running. Just by moving the lever, I'd guess. I know it's possible. I've never had one. I've got an Emerson fernleaf in the bathroom, but that's the only "normal" ceiling fan -- there's a Jandus gyro in the living room, a Westinghouse Rotaire in the dining room, and a Westinghouse (DC!) gyro in the bedroom. If I bought another "normal" ceiling fan, though, it'd be an Adaptaire. Anyways, sorry for dragging this O.T. I was thinking of how the ability to vary VTA whilst playing one's foot-long biscuits was sorta like the Adaptaire. Probably not. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 329412 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Dual Turntables Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 04:39:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1137571358.060010.288650@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In "graham" writes: >... wow, it is amazing in less than 200 words how a topic can mutate into > something that has nothing to do with the original post ... Social conversations amongst humans tend to do that. On Usenet it's called "thread drift". >... VTA to ceiling fans ... I'll go back to my standard statement .. That's my fault. Mea culpa. I just happened to be more interested in ceiling fans at this moment than I am in the VTA adjustment of my tonearm. My bad. > ... does anyone really read these posts? You and I do. That's two. And Wayne, who replied. That's three. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 329413 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: ball on a pole? Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:24:24 -0700 Message-ID: Back in the 50s, a lot of houses had vertical poles on their roofs. These poles were topped by metal balls. I would guess the poles were 10 ft. long and the balls maybe 9 in. diameter. However, judging from on the ground and 50 years away I might be way off. The last time I saw one was in the 70s. When I asked what they were, I was told that they were radio antennas. Does anyone know anything about these? If they were antennas, was there something special about the ball or was it just decoration? When were these new? Does anyone have a picture? Thanks. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 329414 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: ball on a pole? Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:33:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In Jim Mueller writes: >Back in the 50s, a lot of houses had vertical poles on their roofs. These >poles were topped by metal balls. I would guess the poles were 10 ft. >long and the balls maybe 9 in. diameter. However, judging from on the >ground and 50 years away I might be way off. The last time I saw one was >in the 70s. When I asked what they were, I was told that they were radio >antennas. >Does anyone know anything about these? If they were antennas, was there >something special about the ball or was it just decoration? When were >these new? Does anyone have a picture? "Superball" antenna? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 329415 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: OT - A Pittsburgh prayer Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:37:12 GMT Our father, who art in Pittsburgh, football be thy name. Thy Kingdom come, 4 Super Bowls won, on earth as it is in Heinz Field. Give us this day a playoff victory, and forgive us our penalties, as we defeat those who play against us. And lead us into a victory, and deliver us to Detroit. Article: 329416 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: JVC & LEAR JET serviced home component 8track decks-Ebay Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:56:57 -0500 Message-ID: <11suah9q3s57cfc@news.supernews.com> References: <1137356641.440124.88170@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> "Ken Doyle" wrote in message news:VNSdnbzYPNEKVVPeRVn-tw@giganews.com... > WARNING! Well, THAT oughta fix HIS little red wagon! Humph. Article: 329417 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Art Bell's wife,Ramona,dies suddenly at 47 Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:18:31 -0600 Message-ID: <13935-43C67347-221@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1137075992.865490.150250@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> I admit that I pick on Art Bell and George Noory,sometimes.But LQQK,they are A OK guys.I still dont believe 99.99 percent of that stuff they talk about on C to C.They have their niche and they are doing OK.I give them credit for that. cuhulin Article: 329418 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: No wonder A. Atwater Kent went out of business Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:27:41 -0700 Message-ID: <26972-43C6837D-246@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net> References: <19277-43C5EAC9-134@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> I have worked on several AKs like that . The last 2 consoles both had a flat metal box mounted under chassis with 11 capacitors in it and they were both shorted in some way . On top of that they riveted hard paper strips over all the wires soldered to that cap block so you have to hack that away to even get started One of them had a sub chassis on top that had 10 capacitors under it . They left such short wires i could not get it open far enough to work on it plus the wires were crumbling . I spent some time pulling apart one of those cap blocks expecting to see a row of ordinary caps in there . Nope... it was one big turd with wires sticking out all over .. A short waiting to happen . Those ``laid in `` connections were never a problen in the ones i restored . I bet pretty high those type connections would never fly with todays solder . I also think their use of coil forms to mount resistors and capacitors is clever Despite all that those radios are super good preformers both reception and sound quality . The one i still have is a model 310 ten tube i think console that turned out super nice . Article: 329419 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: No wonder A. Atwater Kent went out of business Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:11:50 -0500 Message-ID: <43C6E236.7020305@SPAMMERSatt.net> References: <1137075127.930092.92540@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <13935-43C67630-227@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > Brother,you should read up on the History of Automobiles > in America. Hank WAS a brilliant marketer and visionary industrialist. He was also a violent racist who in the end strangled his company by micro managing it long after it had grown too big for one person to oversee. He resisted hydraulic brakes and the corporate model until GM over took him. John H. Article: 329420 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: I Wish Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 01:01:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20330-43C5439A-32@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> <1137010798.262484.46630@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1137067973.431762.220530@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1137067973.431762.220530@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" writes: >A species that had practical space-travel (FTL or otherwise) would have >no reason to hide... Why so? The Dangerous Universe Theory says there be some real mean mothers out there. As I said, grim viewpoint. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 329421 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <8YmdnX7KjOI9SljeRVn-uA@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Eddie, a challenge... Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 01:32:27 GMT PLEASE give this a try :-) That set I got from Mark is a beauty, but needs a Bezel... So line me up for one if you decide to tackle the job. Thanks Keith "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:8YmdnX7KjOI9SljeRVn-uA@comcast.com... > Eddie, you are so good at this repro stuff... how about you tackle the > infamous Silvertone curved rectangle bezel that is used on the 4680, 4681 > and 4686 and etc sets of 1938. Every one of those sets has a missing or > badly shrunken one. Keith Park has a set that needs one, he got the set > from me. > > You could use the Alumilite stuff, they have a good website too. I would > take a complete bezel and cut it in 8 places where you could lengthen it > to > correct size both lengthwise and width, then use that for a mold. Its a > VERY tricky one due to the curve and thinness of the part. I dont have > any > examples to send, but I am sure there are readers here who do... > > ?????? > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 329422 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: ball on a pole? Message-ID: References: <8uydnVp2O45QslLeRVn-rw@comcast.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 07:45:25 GMT My house has lightning rods. They have a 2-3" ball near the base, and taper up to a point, being maybe 2 feet tall. Bonded to the ground via heavy copper braid. The idea is to create a corona discharge during electrical storm conditions, and bleed off excess charge to prevent it building up to the point that a lightning strike occurs. A ball on the end of the rod would make it less effective for that purpose. I'd guess the above-described ball devices are some sort of antenna, maybe for TV. You still see those tubular "sno-gun" TV antennas around here. (Alberta) Gordon Richmond Article: 329423 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) Subject: Re: Compact AM antenna needed Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 07:19:09 -0500 Message-ID: References: In article , "Mark Oppat" wrote: > I normally have the TERK AM-1000 but wont have them for a month or so yet. > You can find them on eBay sometimes. GREAT antenna, passive. Just put it > next to any set that has a built in loop antenna, it'll couple to that. > Its tunable, and directional. Costs around $40. > > Mark Oppat > Hello, and I think you can build one for a lot less assuming you want to take the time. It's just a large diameter multi-turn loop with a variable capacitor. Of course the effective (capture) area of the external loop is much greater than that of the internal one. I had a link to a website with construction details but I'll have to hunt for it. Considering the simplicity of this antenna I'm always impressed by the results that are obtained in the 540 kHz to 1600 kHz range using an inexpensive portable radio (Hey, no one ever said those tiny ferrite loops were high-gain antennas). Sincerely, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 Article: 329424 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Compact AM antenna needed Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:34:20 -0400 Message-ID: <11sv1qf2s271t29@corp.supernews.com> References: J. B. Wood wrote: > In article , "Mark Oppat" > wrote: > > >>I normally have the TERK AM-1000 but wont have them for a month or so yet. >>You can find them on eBay sometimes. GREAT antenna, passive. Just put it >>next to any set that has a built in loop antenna, it'll couple to that. >>Its tunable, and directional. Costs around $40. >> >>Mark Oppat >> > > > Hello, and I think you can build one for a lot less assuming you want to > take the time. It's just a large diameter multi-turn loop with a variable > capacitor. Of course the effective (capture) area of the external loop is > much greater than that of the internal one. I had a link to a website > with construction details but I'll have to hunt for it. Considering the > simplicity of this antenna I'm always impressed by the results that are > obtained in the 540 kHz to 1600 kHz range using an inexpensive portable > radio (Hey, no one ever said those tiny ferrite loops were high-gain > antennas). Sincerely, One can find those Terk AM-1000 via Amazon for $29. Not a bad deal actually and a reasonable solution for a compact antenna. -Bill Article: 329425 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Re: ball on a pole? Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 07:57:47 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8uydnVp2O45QslLeRVn-rw@comcast.com> Just a guess but maybe it is an anti-lightning rod on a vertical antenna? A pointed end would attract discharges while a rounded end would be less apt to do so. John On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 07:45:25 GMT, Gordon Richmond wrote: >My house has lightning rods. They have a 2-3" ball near the base, and >taper up to a point, being maybe 2 feet tall. Bonded to the ground via >heavy copper braid. > >The idea is to create a corona discharge during electrical storm >conditions, and bleed off excess charge to prevent it building up to >the point that a lightning strike occurs. A ball on the end of the rod >would make it less effective for that purpose. > >I'd guess the above-described ball devices are some sort of antenna, >maybe for TV. You still see those tubular "sno-gun" TV antennas around >here. (Alberta) > >Gordon Richmond Article: 329426 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43cf8dd4$0$11066$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Dual Turntables References: <1137571358.060010.288650@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: 19 Jan 2006 13:02:12 GMT graham wrote: > ... wow, it is amazing in less than 200 words how a topic can mutate into > something that has nothing to do with the original post ... That's usenet. > ... VTA to ceiling fans ... I'll go back to my standard statement .. > ... does anyone really read these posts? Yes, I find them quite interresting actually. Every minute spent lurking is half a minute spent learning. Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 329427 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: ball on a pole? Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:21:41 -0400 Message-ID: <11sv4j9ejlbu9f3@corp.supernews.com> References: <8uydnVp2O45QslLeRVn-rw@comcast.com> John Bachman wrote: > Just a guess but maybe it is an anti-lightning rod on a vertical > antenna? A pointed end would attract discharges while a rounded end > would be less apt to do so. > > John I've only seen one Superball antenna in my wanderings. They are quite collectible and its hard to find one that hasn't been a target for BB and pellet gun practice. Occasionally one will pop up on ebay. -Bill Article: 329428 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: RCA Tombstones - what's with the eye screws? Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:46:21 -0600 Message-ID: <5543-43CFA63D-1811@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <0d93ee5a1e6ae91df674cebac13c0128@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Maybe somebody misordered and they wound up with a boatload of eye screws sitting around and they decided to use them? Truly,similar thingys like that have happened before at some factories. cuhulin Article: 329429 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1137598444.171555.59480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7rDzf.538$Dk.384@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1137675174.081578.123620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Fisher stereo Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:18:35 GMT Peter, To be honest, I don't know whether I'll search one out or not. I presently have a stereo that was bought on impulse from Sears. I don't even know the name -- it might be Pioneer. It has a digital tuner, and 10 presets -- and each of the presets can be set to three stations. If you push it once, it goes to one FM station. If you press it twice, another, and if three times it goes to an AM station. It has all sorts of tape monitors and VCR inputs, has some sort of surround capability, and al sorts of modes which are displayed through little hierogliphics on the digital screen. What it doesn't have is loudness, or any sort of ease of operation. I've got a DBX expander and an equalizer in the mix somewhere, with a tape deck, but I honestly can't figure out how to play the music through the DBX/equalizer. It is the most confusing piece of nonsense I've ever seen! It is obviously not made for the purpose with which I'm using it (just plain stereo). Obviously no hurry on this, as I'm usually in the shop listening to an Atwater-Kent. But I've thought that someday I might pitch this thing for a real stereo -- and if I do this, why not something vintage that does a nice job? So -- we'll just wait to see what the future holds. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1137675174.081578.123620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Gary: > > Fisher (also Scott, Sherwood, et.al.) did have covers for their pieces, > but most were sold without them as most were sold to be installed in > some sort of piece of furniture, and not sit on a shelf or a rack. If > it did have a cover, it would most likely be painted a goldish or flat > brown color, and have stamped slots rather than holes. Sherwood was > famous for a semi-vinyl effect coating on the metal as well. As you did > not mention "part of a console" in your original post, I would guess > yours did come with covers. > > Center-channel outputs were quite common through the early 70s, my AR > Receiver has it, and their service manual tells me how I could install > it in their amplifiers. From that information, it would be fairly easy > to hack it into about any pre-amp, not that I would. I have to check my > Scott pre-amp, I do believe it had the same option, but that unit has > been in mothballs since I last checked it a couple of years ago when I > got it. Dynaco, of course, had their "Hafler Circuit" which they > included in their SCA-80Q, and as a separate switch (the Dynaquad > Adaptor). This included level-control and additional switching, but it > was roughly the same principle.... so your comment about the volume > needing to be 'just right' is dead-on. Now, it is also worthwhile to > know that companies like AR and Fisher were *somewhat* making a virtue > out of necessity with this output. Much recorded music of the time and > even more-so "stereo" broadcast greatly exaggerated the stereo effect > to the point that if the speakers were too far apart, even by inches, > they would sound almost like dualing orchestras... two different groups > trying to play together without benefit of rehearsal. The > center-channel option solved this problem, at a cost, of course. Makers > such as Dynaco had a variable separation control (blend control) to > address this issue. Many other makers had one or two settings for this, > Revox being one of them. Having a control for the purpose simplified > the solution as volume is no longer critical, but it added cost to each > unit, rather than forcing a consumer to purchase "one-more-channel" at > a potential profit. Makers were very pleased when the recording and > broadcast industries started to do things a bit more realistically, and > they could drop the whole problem. > > Look at equipment contemporary to that Fisher stuff. Many of the > pre-amps had head-amps (tape-heads, that is equalized to NAB curves), > crystal cartridge inputs, a dual-single-channel input (for AM & FM > simulcasts), as well as a magnetic input. Some had this right up into > the early transistor era, the Dynaco PAT-4 being one of them. > > I believe that Fisher had only one _Tuner-Pre-Amp_ of the nature you > describe. FM as a high-fidelity medium was new at the time, and most > makers were tripping all over themselves to get one on the market, > usually well-ahead of their design team, and focusing very closely on > price-point. There were Model T tuners (Dynaco FM-1 (1961) offered with > the promise of a multiplex board to come) all the way up to Cadillacs > such as the Marantz 10B introduced in 1964 after everyone else paved > the way. Fisher, Scott and others that offered the AM & FM sides in one > unit were very early in the game, trying to be all things to all > people. Right about the same time most makers simply dropped AM and > went to FM-only, this lasted right up into the transistor era and > beyond until an AM-front-end chip became so dirt-cheap (and the > Japanese came along) that it went back in for competitive purposes. > Note also that the Scott tuner looked remarkably like the Fisher tuner. > > > This stuff was never cheap, then or now. But Dynaco became the price > leader early on due to a combination of kit-making, extremely cheap > components, and the lack of a need for any sort of factory. They jobbed > out 100% of their parts, had them delivered to their "assembly point" > packed in specific sized boxes, and then just shipped them out. > "Factory-assembled" stuff was made by Drexel University students on > piecework. Their original 'factory' was a warehouse in West > Philadelphia about the size of a two-bay + office old-fashioned gas > station. No longer there now. Fisher has (had?) a plant up near State > College, PA making their speakers. Last I was by (~8 years ago), it was > still in operation with their name on the sign, but the "speaker > division" was painted out. > > Good luck on your search. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 329430 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: VHF antenna thingy-JEFF? References: <43cbb466@kcnews01> <43cbb853$0$8276$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <80Bzf.948$Z3.945@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:20:45 GMT Bruce Mercer wrote: > Thanks Jeff, > I hope I have not visited any "problems" on you. You know how family can > be....;-) *laughs* I know. I'm not worried, he's YOUR brother, not mine. ;-) Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329431 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: ball on a pole? Message-ID: <8jOzf.38547$7S.22053@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:33:24 GMT "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:dqn8bg$6ie$1@reader2.panix.com... > In Jim Mueller > writes: > >>Back in the 50s, a lot of houses had vertical poles on their roofs. These >>poles were topped by metal balls. I would guess the poles were 10 ft. >>long and the balls maybe 9 in. diameter. However, judging from on the >>ground and 50 years away I might be way off. The last time I saw one was >>in the 70s. When I asked what they were, I was told that they were radio >>antennas. > >>Does anyone know anything about these? If they were antennas, was there >>something special about the ball or was it just decoration? When were >>these new? Does anyone have a picture? > > "Superball" antenna? > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6572606855 jim menning Article: 329432 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <1137380549.244653.252630@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1137582994.125754.155730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Tiny Admiral Found Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:02:11 -0500 "Gordon Richmond" wrote in message news:bmgts1pi17aadhj3ass700s2rb6o46loc6@4ax.com... > Why is it, whenever I see this thread, I have visions of a tragic > shipwreck involving the flagship of the Lilliputian navy? > > Gordon Richmond Good one, Gordon, made me laugh! Article: 329433 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Tiny Admiral Found Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:34:42 -0600 Message-ID: <13936-43CFDBC2-382@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1137582994.125754.155730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> I remeber a bunch of years ago in an antique store on Washington Street in Vicksburg,Mississippi,I saw an old little bitty tube type radio for sale for about forty four dollars.Mayhaps I might need to drift back on over to Vicksburg again? cuhulin Article: 329434 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Tiny Admiral Found Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:37:16 -0600 Message-ID: <13935-43CFDC5C-1588@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: Small? I aint "Goin there" with that one. cuhulin Article: 329435 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Thermistor to delay B+ voltage build up. Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:12:44 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1137613486.492052.256630@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137670607.431350.315790@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1137670607.431350.315790@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "shoppa@trailing-edge.com" writes: >But I would expect that a turn-on-delay relay on a tube amp would >actually induce a thump at relay close, unless they were doing >something really unusual with DC coupling (possibly at the push-pull >phase inverter?) that would require a turn-on delay. Normally the >slowish heater response will be more than enough to dethump AC-coupled >amps. I have a pair of DC-coupled OTL tube amps that servo the output to eliminate coupling capacitors. They're weird (just like me!). -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 329436 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Dual Turntables Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:28:54 -0500 Message-ID: <11t014o93e9091e@news.supernews.com> References: <1137681585.706548.41580@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Jiri Placek" wrote in message news:1137681585.706548.41580@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I have a 1219 available. Does it have the same arm? > > Jiri Placek > Boyertown, PA Nope, completely different arm. Same look but the "12" series went to a lighter tonearm. Article: 329437 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Richard/Janet Quam" Subject: Schematic Needed - Western Air Patrol 6-M2T Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:37:30 GMT Looking for a schematic diagram for a Western Air Patrol 6-M2T. I searched in all the usual places on the Internet and only came up with the 6-M3T. The 6-M2T that I have has been modified to accept different tubes (without the grid caps) and I would like to bring it back to its original circuit with grid-cap tubes. I also think the output transformer was replaced but I could live with that. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Richard Quam Article: 329438 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Anybody Need Any One Volt Tubes ?? (Not 1L6's though) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:50:52 -0700 Message-ID: Still sorting all those tubes...will be for a LONG time yet, but I just ran across a ton of one volt tubes. Anybody need any of these ?? Just drop me a line if you do. Ben Article: 329439 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Cunningham CX-12 Tube Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:00:30 -0700 Message-ID: Just found one in the box. Box is all beat to hell but tube looks new. Anybody interested ?? Ben Article: 329440 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Soldering Irons or Stations Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:32:02 -0700 Message-ID: <26972-43C870B2-581@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net> References: Yes MR Jeff that will work ! I forgot about another big honkin solder gun out in the garage that i use for big chassis globs . And A good technician could do a decent job with a rusty nail and a cigarette lighter. A hack will do a poor job regardless of what his "weapon" of choice is. Jeff You are so right . Article: 329441 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Its nice when another .... Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:35:58 -0700 Message-ID: <26974-43C8719E-62@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net> Radio chassis is done . A Philco 96 hi-boy this time . Putt-n in the last filter cap . Pretty good radio other than it stops at 1500 . Oh well :-) Article: 329442 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Help, Does anybody know anything about this Zenith radio? References: <1137135421.852815.184560@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11sels2tbdc71c1@corp.supernews.com> <11semb69etgnmcb@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 13:41:08 GMT It's like deja vu all over again... Jeff - exray - wrote: > Thanks, Jeff. Now that I see the pix I have that feeling of deja vu :) > > -Bill -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329443 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Compact AM antenna needed Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:29:11 -0400 Message-ID: <11t086868ak4nd1@corp.supernews.com> References: <11sv1qf2s271t29@corp.supernews.com> Mark Oppat wrote: > That $29 seller on Amazon has a poor 86% rating., and charges $6.49 ship, I > only charged $3. The normal sellers have it for $35 range, with their > shipping they come out in the same price as mine was when I had them. When > I get more in (probably) March, I should be able to sell them for $39 range > including postage. > > Mark Oppat But you don't have any in stock so its moot. -Bill Article: 329444 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Interesting find (not mine) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:09:00 -0700 Message-ID: References: <8_Wdncexsbm9wFreRVn-rA@qx.net> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 02:56:02 -0500, Theresa McCarty wrote: > Here's one, maybe... the tube lineup looks too short or incomplete. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Airline-Table-4-Tube-AC-DC-AM-Radio-Works_W0QQitemZ6595597071QQcategoryZ38035QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- There are lots of 4 tube superhets out there. This one is unique in that it has an IF stage. The usual tube line up goes 12AU6, 12AV6, 50C5, and 35W4. There are variations. I have a Silvertone model 1 (where did they get that number from?) that uses a 12SA7, 12SQ7, 50L6, and 35Z5. It works fine - - - - on local stations. I can see why a TRF might be attractive from a parts cost perspective, it eliminates the IF transformer without changing much else. However, the labor must have been significantly greater. Ever try to align a TRF? I did one once, with a 2 gang capacitor. It took about 2 hours IIRC; mostly spent bending capacitor plates to get it to track across the band so that reception would be decent. And this was a radio that had worked at one time. I hate to think what it would be like starting from scratch! Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 329445 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Looking for bezels for a Radiola 17 From: "Benjamaniac" Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:17:38 -0700 Message-ID: Just picked up a Radiola 17 and it's missing the bezels behind the volume control and the on/off toggle switch. Anybody got these they like to part with ?? Ben Article: 329446 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43C6EA7E.AC5B8FB9@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Soldering Irons or Stations References: <71d7s1hgnpvam2o9n5f3k3jbuls9g1mbm1@4ax.com> <1136942181.164914.201030@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9qixf.130$wz2.96@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 23:47:48 GMT Mark Oppat wrote: > > VERY rarely should anyone have to solder to a chassis, there is usually an > existing ground somewhere that is more convenient and of course more > solderable... > > I cant believe years ago I used to unsolder old cap leads off the chassis, > then it dawned on me... leave it (if its good, and most are) and solder onto > the clipped and scraped cleaned wire or nearby lug...duh...! Figgered that > out at age 18...after 2 years of struggle... > > Mark Oppat Yeah, Mark, I saw that trick when I was 13, at the first TV shop I worked at. It was in something that had been to another shop that did real crappy work. The boss showed it to me, and told me that I would be fired if I used it. It was considered low grade workmanship in all of the TV shops I worked at, in the '60s, '70s, and '80s. Now, tell us how you replace a bad FP (twistlock) electrolytic without soldering it to the chassis. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 329447 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: I Wish Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 01:03:28 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1137067973.431762.220530@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <16154-43C680CB-181@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> <1137084578.581221.181540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> In <1137084578.581221.181540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" writes: >Good Fun Reading: King David's Spaceship (Jerry Pournelle). Oy! Talk about a grim viewpoint. :) I haven't read that title, but I've read most of the collaborations between him and Niven. Great fiction, but, damn! As someone once said, Jerry Pournelle *writes* like a Kzinti. Isn't he the guy who wrote something call "There WILL be war"? Charming. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 329448 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Eddie, a challenge... Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:48:06 -0700 Message-ID: <26755-43C7D9C6-174@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: If its the sort of 8 sided one with an eye tube hole at the top i could use 2 maybe 3 of them . These have the glass built right in the plastic HOWEVER if you could even make a flat one that could be tacked neetly onto the cabinet and mount the glass another way would be 100% good for me . Article: 329449 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Help, Does anybody know anything about this Zenith radio? References: <1137135421.852815.184560@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11sels2tbdc71c1@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:36:24 GMT Ask and ye shall receive. http://www.indianaradios.com/Export%20Zenith%20Radio.htm Jeff - exray - wrote: > feldtm@msn.com wrote: > > >> the chassis and I posted it on a page at my web site. That page is >> http://www.indianaradios.com/Export Zenith Radio.htm > > > Could you kindly reformat that URL without the space? I've tried the > obvious repairs and can't get it to come up. > > Thanks, > Bill -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329450 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carroll Senn Subject: Re: Soldering Irons or Stations Message-ID: References: <71d7s1hgnpvam2o9n5f3k3jbuls9g1mbm1@4ax.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:40:35 GMT On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:24:55 GMT, Carroll Senn wrote: >In the wake of what had to be a rare cosmic event, both of my trusted >Weller soldering irons expelled their magic smoke and refuse to work >any longer. > >I am looking for suggestions as to what to replace them with. It can >be an iron or a station. I don't want de-soldering as an option and >prefer something that can accept different elements or has variable >temp and has a variety of reasonably priced tips available. > >What do you use in your shop? > >Thanks Wow, many responses and lateral diversions into car radios and Radio Shack bashing. I have ordered a Hakko 936 and will report back on it when received. Thanks to all who replied. Hope to see many of you at Kutztown in the spring. Carroll Senn Columbia, SC Article: 329451 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Soldering Irons or Stations Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:38:07 -0700 Message-ID: <26754-43C7D76F-512@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: Its interesting so far only 2 of s use a standard Weller gun . My Weller GT works exactly like a soldering pencil accept it has a gun hande . It has 2 tips that come out that consist of the element & tip in one unit . These are temp controled inside the tip unit . You could actually tapethe triger down and leave it going because its temp controled . The tips on the GT are indestructible one is pointed the other a chisel I have one thats 35 years old from an old radio shop . This gun was WELL used & the tip is original and lke new still . The GT wont heat old radio work fast enough but it will work . Not strong enough to solder to the metal chassis though . They will however get hot enough to slowly solder a cable jack to a tv tuner . My second GT came from ebay about 5 years ago so i had a spare . and you know that old beater one i had first still works as good as the new one . Radio Shack has its uses . i went in one not long ago and saw several project kits still available , lots of batterys and radio controled toys Down one isle parts bins .. this store does not keep a good eye on those though but it goes to show ``someone`` had to buy them empty-ish ! Article: 329452 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43C7FD26.C7194E77@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: I Wish References: <1137067973.431762.220530@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <16154-43C680CB-181@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> <1137084578.581221.181540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <4Wvxf.58962$Lb1.29190@bignews3.bellsouth.net> <1137152879.293740.45320@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:20:10 GMT jakdedert wrote: > > Peter Wieck wrote: > > "The Gripping Hand" > > > > Peter Wieck > > Wyncote, PA > > > > > Ah ha! Also recommended: "Footfall". BTW, Googling Pournelle revealed > a title in Amazon: "The Mote Around Murcheson's Eye" which seems to be > another sequel. The asking price: $73+ *used*. > > I wonder what that's about, but not interested enough to research.... > > jak Take a look at: http://www.baen.com/library/ to see where Baen has put some of their Science Fiction books online for free. news:rec.arts.sf.written is a newsgroup about Science Fiction. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 329453 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin" References: <1137079952.531266.215900@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <43c6fe83$0$1475$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net> <1137157024.914400.289350@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Tesla Talisman project blog Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 23:18:49 -0000 Message-ID: <43c8355a$0$82657$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> "Terry S" wrote in message news:1137157024.914400.289350@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Thank you for the comments Martin. I also have a 504U, and you're > right, it's voltage plug is much more complex. > > Here is a fellow who sells repro Tesla (and other) dials, although he > does not return my emails: > > http://www.radioverzameling.nl/repro/uk/ > Ah, yes, Ben Dijkman. They look promising, thanks. Lots of other interesting things like Philips badges, too. > How DO you retension the tube sockets correctly? > Trial and error, I'm afraid, just poking around with the centre until it's secure, after building up any broken plastic centre collar with epoxy. > Terry. > Richard Booth is also a Tesla fan, with whom I've exchanged various spares over the years, and is always very helpful. There are some restorations described on his site. http://www.pasttimesradio.co.uk/ Martin. Article: 329454 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1137174548.711691.16730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Further Speculation on ET/ALIENS Message-ID: <5zYxf.13051$iQ.1074@tornado.southeast.rr.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 01:34:57 GMT > "Childhood's End" Arthur C. Clarke > "World of Ptavvs" Larry Niven > Childhood's End and most anything by Larry Niven are some of the best SF reading there is. Larry's known space series through Ringworld is GREAT. I've read them all over and over. Ron Article: 329455 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "40zeffer" Subject: Re: Anybody Need Any One Volt Tubes ?? (Not 1L6's though) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:19:23 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1137718778.237863.89470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> i am interested in some 1 volt locktals..as used in my prewar zenith unversals..are u selling cheap? jeff oHIo Article: 329456 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "40zeffer" Subject: 8 tube philco car radio Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:23:49 +0100 Message-ID: my lz radio is victim of the years..i recapped it and have filaments but no output from vibrator, (solid state newer) which i believe is my starting point..what does vibrator supply? jeff ohio Article: 329457 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim Barnard" Subject: Zenith Transistor Radio Schematics Posted Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:19:11 -0500 Message-ID: I have posted around 40 schematics for the more popular Zenith transistor radios for those of you who like working on these great little radios. I downloaded the schematics some time back from a Website that had many Beitman schematics. I converted them from the DejaVu format to the popular Adobe .pdf format. Go to my Website site www.transistor-repairs.com and look under "resources". I hope these schematics will be useful along with the transistor cross reference page. Jim Barnard Article: 329458 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: 8 tube philco car radio References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:33:00 GMT 40zeffer wrote: > my lz radio is victim of the years..i recapped it and have filaments but no > output from vibrator, (solid state newer) which i believe is my starting > point..what does vibrator supply? Think of a vibrator as a mechanical source of AC to run the power transformer. You chop the 12 VDC on and off, and the transformer converts that into 150-200 VDC for the radio B+ supply. Poking about on the vibrator socket with an oscilliscope would give you an idea of what's happening. Gary Taymen, here on this news group will probably respond with a clearer, more in depth answer on what to look for. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329459 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Re: Anybody Need Any One Volt Tubes ?? (Not 1L6's though) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:34:02 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1137718778.237863.89470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Nope...haven't seen any 1V loctals so far. Ben "40zeffer" wrote in message news:c10549858e4a1bbe1db73c31689ccb2d@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com... >i am interested in some 1 volt locktals..as used in my prewar zenith > unversals..are u selling cheap? > jeff > oHIo > Article: 329460 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Anybody Need Any One Volt Tubes ?? (Not 1L6's though) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:59:34 -0400 Message-ID: <11t0h08kpluqe2d@corp.supernews.com> References: <1137718778.237863.89470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Benjamaniac wrote: > Nope...haven't seen any 1V loctals so far. > Ben How about 1D8 and 1F4? They are pretty obscure but might be fun for a new project. -Bill Article: 329461 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Re: Anybody Need Any One Volt Tubes ?? (Not 1L6's though) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:18:13 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1137718778.237863.89470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <11t0h08kpluqe2d@corp.supernews.com> "- exray -" wrote in message news:11t0h08kpluqe2d@corp.supernews.com... > Benjamaniac wrote: > >> Nope...haven't seen any 1V loctals so far. >> Ben > > How about 1D8 and 1F4? They are pretty obscure but might be fun for a new > project. > > -Bill Damn...neither one of those...so far. Ben Article: 329462 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: ball on a pole? References: <1137723199.931938.298530@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:27:59 GMT pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > I was taught that long wave or broadcast reception > depended on a having a long wire, not a relatively small mass of metal. > Length was the key. But now I'm thinking I didn't get the true story, > and those metal balls (or bells in my case) are very effective > antennae. Any wise observations out there? Capacitive coupling. Since you're not going to get a decent resonant length antenna, the next best thing is to capacitively couple to the signal. More surface area at the end of the wire. A metal sphere works well for this. Side note: In a lot of antique radio pictures, you see a large antenna array with multiple wires tied together with a single feed line coming down. The engineering term for this is a "Capacitive hat" at the top of the feed line. It is to help tune the entire array to resonance at the working frequency. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329463 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: ball on a pole? Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:40:40 -0500 Message-ID: <11t0jdjeoe1gh5b@corp.supernews.com> References: <8jOzf.38547$7S.22053@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> "jim menning" wrote in message news:8jOzf.38547$7S.22053@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6572606855 > > I love how Jim posts a link definitively answering the question - "Here is a Superball Antenna"- there's even a picture. The thread should end there, right? But people STILL post endless replies speculating on how it's actually a lightening rod, etc. that is being discussed. Does ANYONE actually READ the thread, or is it just me? John H. Article: 329464 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1137724665.553872.113550@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I am clearing out Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:42:28 GMT wrote in message news:1137724665.553872.113550@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > I've decided to sell my radios and concentrate on phonographs. I've > contacted Estes auctions for selling. Ebay is out because of the > hassle of packing for shipping. Any advice? > Dave > Please post the list here with the auction details when you have them. jim menning Article: 329465 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: ball on a pole? Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:48:18 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <8jOzf.38547$7S.22053@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <11t0jdjeoe1gh5b@corp.supernews.com> In <11t0jdjeoe1gh5b@corp.supernews.com> "Hagstar" writes: >"jim menning" wrote in message >news:8jOzf.38547$7S.22053@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6572606855 >> >I love how Jim posts > a link definitively answering the question - "Here is a Superball Antenna"- >there's even a picture. The thread should end there, right? But people STILL >post endless replies speculating on how it's actually a lightening rod, etc. >that is being discussed. >Does ANYONE actually READ the thread, or is it just me? Nope. Just you and graham. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 329466 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Ebay phonographs Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:51:10 -0500 Message-ID: <11t0k193e2dj379@corp.supernews.com> References: <1137724448.108536.87690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Do not pay less than $600- for any external horn phonograph and you should be fine, also see below. Nice real ones start at a grand. http://www.oldcrank.com/articles/crapophone/crap-o-phones.html John H. Article: 329467 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Ebay phonographs Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:59:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1137724448.108536.87690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1137724448.108536.87690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> pgonshor@aol.com writes: >I just realized that many here may not realize that most of the >complete phonographs offered on ebay are reproductions. To an >experienced phono collector, it is obvious. However, most of the >complete phonos on ebay are cheap reproductions sold from China or >India. It seems there is also a big outlet for them in Australia. My >advice is if you are bidding on a wind-up phonograph from China, India >or Australia, it is a reproduction and not worth anywhere near the huge >shipping cost you would have to pay. >Dave If you're looking for a trustworthy dealer instead of eBay, I can't help plugging these guys: http://collectorsworldwest.com I just bought my first phono from them, and he bent over backwards to make a deal with me. Plus, the machine came out nicer than in the photos. From what I understand, this place has a great reputation, and from my one experience, a well-deserved one. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 329468 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: ball on a pole? Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:07:05 -0400 Message-ID: <11t0kuqnt833u6f@corp.supernews.com> References: <1137723199.931938.298530@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > > pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > >> I was taught that long wave or broadcast reception >> depended on a having a long wire, not a relatively small mass of metal. >> Length was the key. But now I'm thinking I didn't get the true story, >> and those metal balls (or bells in my case) are very effective >> antennae. Any wise observations out there? > > > Capacitive coupling. > > Since you're not going to get a decent resonant length antenna, > the next best thing is to capacitively couple to the signal. > > More surface area at the end of the wire. A metal sphere works > well for this. > > Side note: In a lot of antique radio pictures, you see a large > antenna array with multiple wires tied together with a single > feed line coming down. The engineering term for this is a > "Capacitive hat" at the top of the feed line. It is to help > tune the entire array to resonance at the working frequency. > > Jeff > > Yabbut, the sphere is only a foot in diameter which is nothing at BCB freqs. I suspect it did nothing...other than look cool. -ex Article: 329469 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" Subject: bead blasting chassis? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:23:39 -0600 Okay, this may seem off the wall, but I've read about guys putting chasses (sp?) in the dishwasher. So... has anyone tried giving an intact chassis a light blasting with glass bead to clean it? I can see some potential problems if the IF can openings are not closed up, and the tuner and other bearings are not protected. But has anyone tried it? If so, what happened? Cheers, Nelson Article: 329470 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43D05986.3426923D@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: FS: Zenith Walton 9S232 Chassis and Speaker References: <1137539821.685738.40690@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:31:18 -0500 Are you Kidding Eddie? How much would a complete 9-S-262 go for then? I have 2 of them and I probably will sell 1 of them, the one on my website (http://www.tuberadios.com/9s262.html) Regards, Sal Eddie Brimer wrote: > that's too cheap with the speaker rick. somebody will take a 7j232 and > turn it into a 9s232. i would put it on ebay. Article: 329471 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "effi" Subject: Re: ball on a pole? Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:28:25 -0600 Message-ID: <11t0pn7hed9df53@corp.supernews.com> References: lucy is where? "lucy, you got some splainin to do" Article: 329472 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: bead blasting chassis? Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:54:30 -0800 Message-ID: References: Nelson Gietz wrote: > Okay, this may seem off the wall, but I've read about > guys putting chasses (sp?) in the dishwasher. > So... has anyone tried giving an intact chassis a light > blasting with glass bead to clean it? I can see some > potential problems if the IF can openings are not closed > up, and the tuner and other bearings are not protected. > But has anyone tried it? If so, what happened? > Cheers, > Nelson > > http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~postr/bapix/guest1.htm -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 329473 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:33:45 -0500 From: Tom Sullivan Subject: Re: The very first floppy discs (soundsheets) References: Message-ID: <43d07682$0$76025$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com> Disney put out a bunch of them that came on the back of Wheaties and Cheerios boxes. This was about the time Micky Mouse Club came on the air, about 1955. You had to wait until the box was empty, then you cut the record out of the box with scissors, and used a pencil to poke the center hole. They were about six inches in diameter, and played at 78 rpm. They only played about a minute each. They had the thin clear plastic sound sheet glued on to the cardboard box. They played just great on the teardrop phonograph I had when I was a kid. I've still got several of these. They were mostly the mousekaters singing Micky Mouse Club songs. Tom Roy Tony wrote: > Anyone actually collect soundsheet records? The records were made of thin > flexible sheets of plastic. What was useful about them is they were cheap > to make and could never break when dropped. They were also little harder > to scratch because the sheet would slide on the turntable if you'd push > the needle too hard. They were inserted in magazines, books and even sent > through the mail as a music samples. They were the very first "floppy > discs"! > One sound sheet I have was recorded one side only. That sheet is so thin > you could see the loudest sound passages protruding on the blank side. > > The most common sound sheets I've seen are made by Eva-Tone > (Deerfield Ill). > The most common title is one put out by Time Life Records titled > "The Swing Era" Demonstration Record BG-11769 S7 > > I have one used by what I think was a dictating machine. The grouves are > so close together that even a new needle has trouble staying in it. > It's made by Edison Diamond Disc, McGraw Edison Company. > > I recently came across a record made out of cardboard. One side is the > cardboard the other is just shiny enough for grooves. > Dancerina: Tchaikovsky selections from Nutcracker Suite. 1968 Mattel inc. > Auravision a product of Columbia special products. CSM-7858-2A. > > I frequently come across them in second-hand stores and flea markets and > wondered if there's any value in them? Any special way of storing them? > Article: 329474 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <1137642441.835321.31080@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Thermistor to delay B+ voltage build up. Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 05:48:03 -0330 "nesesu" wrote in message news:1137642441.835321.31080@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Perhaps Terry saw my recent posting about 6X5 problems in Zenith > radios. As said in this thread, there does not seem to be any Q&D was > of preventing the surge when using sand diodes. > Yup. Also my ex-military radio uses a 6X5. Which I have read is/was a not too reliable tube; in respect of heater cathode shorts IIRC? Our radio was designed to work from around 100 v to 240 v, AC mains or field generator. Being European that was probably 50 hertz! It can also work on 12 volts DC using a vibrator and special windings on the power transformer. The whole radio is rated to consume 36 watts. The power transformer is therefore rather small, complicated and probably irreplaceable! The idea of removing 6.3v at 0.6a = 3.8 watts or approx 11% of the power load from the now 60+ year old transformer therefore seemed attractive. There is also no original fusing in the AC input or the B+! There IS a fuse in the 12 volt input using what appears to be an overly large Slydlok replaceable-wire fuse! The early 1940s set is constructed on three sub chassis, the heaviest being the power unit. Having seen adverts. for a number of these sets which have either been modified, converted, scrapped or, as one seller described 'been got at in the power section' would warrant performing several easily reversible modifications to preserve/protect the power section, especially the transformer . Summary: Remove 10% power load by replacing 6X5 with diodes. Add something to delay the immediate high B+ on filter (and other) caps at switch on. Add voltage dropping because of the lower forward voltage drop of diodes. Add fuses in a) AC primary b) Somewhere in the B+ circuit. Remove modification by previous owner which had already resulted in burn out of the original and 'almost' irreplaceable audio output transformer primary. I may have located a source of an original replacement which allow the unsatisfactory replacement to be removed. Overall any 'mods' to be obvious and easily removable for future authenticity. Article: 329475 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: Subject: Re: bead blasting chassis? Message-ID: <1R3Af.13817$Jd.11318@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:30:05 GMT "Nelson Gietz" wrote in message news:kHYzf.19$XZ3.1@fe22.lga... > Okay, this may seem off the wall, but I've read about > guys putting chasses (sp?) in the dishwasher. > So... has anyone tried giving an intact chassis a light > blasting with glass bead to clean it? I can see some > potential problems if the IF can openings are not closed > up, and the tuner and other bearings are not protected. > But has anyone tried it? If so, what happened? > Cheers, > Nelson > We have a glass bead blasting cabinet at work. It puts a very nice finish on metal, but I would remove the IF's and tuning CAP. No matter how carefully they were covered, I don't think you could prevent incursion of the media. You would have to carefully cover the tube sockets as well. I think it would be well worth it however on a badly rusted chassis, should leave behind a nice satin finish. I have blasted corroded tube shields and they came out great. Larry Fowkes Article: 329476 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Anybody Need Any One Volt Tubes ?? (Not 1L6's though) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:51:23 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1137718778.237863.89470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <11t0h08kpluqe2d@corp.supernews.com> "Benjamaniac" wrote in message news:dqph94$ffog$1@news3.infoave.net... > > "- exray -" wrote in message > news:11t0h08kpluqe2d@corp.supernews.com... >> Benjamaniac wrote: >> >>> Nope...haven't seen any 1V loctals so far. >>> Ben >> >> How about 1D8 and 1F4? They are pretty obscure but might be fun for a >> new project. >> >> -Bill > > Damn...neither one of those...so far. > Ben How much for a couple sets of standard AA5 minis? Article: 329477 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim McShane" Subject: FS: 45 ST Tubes Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:44:55 GMT I have a couple used 45s that should be excellent for restoration of an old radio: (1) 45 ST bottle, labeled Wizard, probably Sylvania made, tests good with a good getter too. White boxed, $14.50. (1) 45 RCA, ST bottle, nice looking used tube, tests good, small amount of loose material in the tube, a nice tube for an old radio restoration, $14.00 Drop me a note if I can help! Jim McShane Need Tubes? Got a H-K Citation (Pre) Amp? Check http://pages.prodigy.net/jimmcshane Repro knobs for Citation gear in stock! Article: 329478 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FS: Zenith Walton 9S232 Chassis and Speaker From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <1137761507.142188.270410@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:44:38 GMT In article <1137761507.142188.270410@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, eb062559@aol.com says... > > >sal, >it is a 9s232 speaker and chassis. the chassis is identical to the >9s262, except for the model number stamped on the back. the speaker is >the biggie. the speaker is the problem when someone is making a "S" >out of a "J". or, if you have an empty cabinet and are looking for a >chassis and speaker to make it complete. there are other models that >have similar speakers, but different part #s. it depends on how far >one wants to go. i would be very surprized if it didn't bring more >than 400.00 on ebay. been wrong before. > Just bought a nice one on ebay a couple of weeks ago... in addition to being correct chassis for 9 tube walton... marked 232 not 262 with the ink stamp on it... it also had all but the top knob that were good condition wood knobs.... top was a repro... bought that one for $275 .... no speaker... just the chassis with knobs. If the speaker is a good one... they will go $100-125 .... if they need to be reconed... then considerably less than that.. John k9uwa /w4 Article: 329479 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: bead blasting chassis? Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:14:05 +0100 Message-ID: <5e7043337e8f240d2f87be6fe97412e3@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: <1R3Af.13817$Jd.11318@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> metal, but I would remove the IF's and tuning CAP. No matter how carefully **Absolutely agree with Larry- you must remove the IF's and tuning cap. That grit will stay forever in the cap bearings if you don't remove the assembly; and probably break delicate IF wires. I've been using commercial grade ZEP detergent with a compressor, rinsing under a garden hose, blowing off with air, and drying in a warm oven. The pressurized ZEP/rinse is EXACTLY what HP used for instrument service- I did it hundreds of times there; remove the meters and plug the xfmrs and spray! -Pete Article: 329480 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: bead blasting chassis? Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:38:03 -0600 Message-ID: <20330-43D103DB-1745@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <5e7043337e8f240d2f87be6fe97412e3@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> I own a couple of sand blasters,one of them is a big sand blaster I made >from a big steel tank I bought at a junkyard.Anyway,if I was going to blast a radio cabinet (bead blast,or whatever) I would make sure I removed the chassis and all electronic parts first. cuhulin Article: 329481 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: 8 tube philco car radio Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:45:25 -0600 Message-ID: <20330-43D10595-1748@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: .....or it may stop buzzing altogether.Yes Sir,Mr.Tayman,that's why I was calling them vibrators,buzzers,in one of my previous post a couple or three weeks ago. cuhulin Article: 329482 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <1137628255.402497.65440@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Thermistor to delay B+ voltage build up?????? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:39:56 -0330 "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:dqmlvm$95d$1@news2.kornet.net... > > "Engineer" wrote in message > news:1137628255.402497.65440@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> Any thermistor I know of will still allow the reservoir cap. to charge >> to Vpeak well before the tubes heat up, and it will do this with >> filament rectifiers as well as solid state. You need another way... >> but I don't know a Q&D one, i.e. cheap! >> Cheers, >> Roger > > Why not set up a circuit using a triac and a simple R/C time constant to > deliver the trigger voltage? > > Brenda Ann: Thanks for the suggestion. Something like that, in general terms, a B+ time delay circuit, had 'sort of' occurred to me. I had a thermal delay relay in a glass B7G envelope, but it is broken! Perhaps I can experiment with a triac out of a scrapped microwave oven? But IIRC they work in the primary of the AC transformer which produces EHT and heater voltage for the microwave magnetron/diode and are triggered by the control circuit board. Not sure about that; I'll have to check. And to put a triac or other into the centre tap of, say, the transformer B+ secondary (at AC) would mean digging into the wiring; rather than some easily reversible and recognizable 'mod' mounted in a unit plugged into the rectifier tube socket above chassis! Fortunately lots of spare room around/above the rectifier socket! This thread has pointed out that in many sets the rectifier tube, such as a directly heated type 80, will heat fast enough that B+ at v'peak is applied before the other tubes have had time to heat and draw current! So filter caps have to be designed for that. In this case the existing 6X5, which am proposing to replace with diodes, to reduce power transformer wattage by some 10%, has an indirectly heated cathode (pin 8), with separate heater on pins 2 and 7. In this radio the 6X5 has a dedicated 6.3 volt power transformer winding, but pins 7 of the heater is connected to pin 8 cathode; meaning that the winding sits at the B+ voltage output of the rectifier. Same as the 5 volt rectifier heater winding in many 'normal' sets. Also someone has added a non-original electrolytic, mounted by being glued upside down to the power unit chassis. The other eight 6.3 volt tube heaters are in series parallel across another 12 volt winding (when using AC). There is a panel mounted indicator light and dial lamps that can probably be dimmed down to reduce power transformer load by one watt or so; or about another 3%. (LEDs?) Each Mullard type international octal tube (EF39/EBC33 etc.) consumes 6.3v at 0.2a; compared to typical 6K7/6Q7s at 6.3v 0.3a. Overall possibility, by removing the rectifier tube and using smaller pilot lamps, of reducing load on transformer by some 13% ? The whole thing is a 60+ years old cosmetically in good condition; a monster metal cabinet radio weighing 90 pounds. But senile nostalgia has set in! I had a then brand new ex-war surplus one of the same type, as a teenager over 50 years ago. So trying to lovingly preserve this one which cost me, somewhat used, ten times that of the original one! The only fuse in it, as originally manufactured, is in the 12 volt DC input; useful I suppose if the vibrator jammed? But it has no AC or B+ fuses! Therefore any 'ingenious' ideas, about the idea of delaying B+ application and/or removing a few watts from the irreplaceable power transformer or anything else are most welcome. Many thanks to all for the helpful comments and discussion sparking of ideas. Power consumption. Eight 6.3v tubes, series parallel pairs, 12 x 4 x 0.2a = 4.8 watts. (14%) Panel and dial lamps = approx 2 watts (6%) Rectifier 6X5, 6.3 x 0.6a = 3.8 watts (10%) B+ approx 250v @ 100m/a = 25 watts (70%) Total approx = 36 watts. Terry. A few miles from where, in Dec 1901, Marconi received the first Transatlantic wireless telegraph signal at St. John's, Newfoundland. Article: 329483 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" Subject: Adding AC primary fuse to Hallicrafters S-53 Message-ID: <4V8Af.14957$924.240762@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:46:13 -0330 Adding fuse to the AC input: It's transformer set with no other fuses in the circuit at all. Radio consumes about 25 watts at 115v AC. Would 1.0 amp fuse be suitable? Also adding 3 wire AC cord with ground lead to metal chassis/case. Any comments/advice? Terry Article: 329484 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <1137723399.762349.21350@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11t0kqfkan3cbfd@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Impedance Coupling Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:18:55 -0330 "- exray -" wrote in message news:11t0kqfkan3cbfd@corp.supernews.com... > dconley@lawfacts.com wrote: > > >> Can anyone suggest another way of achieving my goal while still using >> the 1H5GT tube for the audio stage? I really don't want to substitute >> another tube. Alternatively, what size choke coil and capacitor should >> I use for impedance coupling to the 150 ohm headphones? Thanks in >> advance for your suggestions. > > That said...try something like a 50k resistor from plate to B+. Then a > low value cap...start with .01 and try .005, .001 as examples, directly > from the plate to the phones and phones to gnd. > Just a guess. I've used this configuration with success. > Hooked onto the plate output of the audio amp tube. While the capacitor would block the flow of DC to chassis/ground and prevent the phones from being 'live' at B+ voltage (as they often were in the 'old days', would not that 'look' like a very low impedance to the tube? In other words a major impedance mismatch? An unusual suggestion might be, to experiment using any old power transformer? By connecting it's high voltage winding/s into the plate circuit (the DC resistance of any winding will be a few hundred ohms at most), and then connecting the low Z phones to one of the low voltage windings something of an impedance match at audio frequencies could be obtained?* Viz: 250 volt to 5 volt winding (ignore all other connections) would be a voltage ratio of 50:1 Thus an impedance ratio of 50 x 50 (times the headphone impedance of 150) = 2500 x 150 = 2500 x 150 = 375,000! Or using a 120/6.3 (a small filament transformer?) = 19.0:1 Thus 19 x 19 x 150 = 54,150! But a question; even if the 150 ohms is the DC resistance of the headphones what is the AC impedance? Maybe the impedance Z is somewhat higher? * One data sheet mentions the 1H5 triode with a plate current 0.275 milliamps! So DC flow through the transformer would be incidental. Article: 329485 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" References: <1137571358.060010.288650@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Dual Turntables Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:47:37 -0600 Message-ID: <2t2dnTHSnsbRrUzenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@sigecom.net> >> ... does anyone really read these posts? > > You and I do. That's two. And Wayne, who replied. That's three. > > -- > Tim Mullen Make that four....at least. Bruce From wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com Sat Jan 21 12:01:31 EST 2006 Article: 329486 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Dual Turntables From: Wayne Boatwright References: <1137571358.060010.288650@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: User-Agent: Xnews/06.12.01 X-Face: '2=UjhX-y3vfeO94nyru(,e&{Lf^eJ&15S#rcuk:e{unjSRN4yZ69Z'ePMJsPO"6\s'iVZ0OZ>_ NNTP-Posting-Host: $$$jwkol-njnwk$.newsgate.x-privat.org Date: 20 Jan 2006 20:18:54 +0100 Organization: X-Privat NNTP Server - http://www.x-privat.org Lines: 64 X-Complaints-To: abuse@x-privat.org Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!news2.wam.umd.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!news.newsland.it!newsgate.x-privat.org!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:329486 On Wed 18 Jan 2006 09:34:13p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Tim Mullen? > In Wayne Boatwright > writes: > >>On Wed 18 Jan 2006 06:19:26p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Tim >>Mullen? > >>> Rather tangentially (cough, cough), there was a ceiling fan made >>> in the twenties (I think) by Westinghouse (I think) that had variable >>> pitch. You could twiddle the blades, while running, from full down >>> draft to full up, and watch the fan speed up as you went thru the >>> flat "feathered" position. Much fun. >>> > >>For many years the original Hunter ceiling fans had a manual mechanical >>adjustment that allowed adjustment of the blade pitch from blowing >>straignt down thru blowing straing up. The blade shafts were mounted on >>a collar. The collar had a lever that adjusted the pitch. > > That's it! Hunter Adaptaires. Yes, that's the model name. I had forgotten it. We owned two of those at one time. One back in the 1950s although the fan itself was much older. The second one I bought new in the early 1970s before they quit making them. >>As afar as Westinghouse, I don't know. > > Nah, I was wrong about that. AFAIK. > >>However, I don't know how you'd make that adjustment with the fan >>actually running. > > Just by moving the lever, I'd guess. I know it's possible. I'm sorry, but I don't know how that's possible, at least with the two fans we owned. The blade shafts were connected to a collar which rotated. The lever to change the pitch was also on this collar. This whole assembly was in motion when the fan was running. > I've never had one. I've got an Emerson fernleaf in the bathroom, > but that's the only "normal" ceiling fan -- there's a Jandus gyro in > the living room, a Westinghouse Rotaire in the dining room, and a > Westinghouse (DC!) gyro in the bedroom. If I bought another "normal" > ceiling fan, though, it'd be an Adaptaire. You have a nice collection! > Anyways, sorry for dragging this O.T. I was thinking of how the > ability to vary VTA whilst playing one's foot-long biscuits was sorta > like the Adaptaire. Probably not. :) I wouldn't worry about it. It'll only piss people off that are usually pissed off anyway. -- Wayne Boatwright տլ __________________________________________________ "One man's meat is another man's poison" - Oswald Dykes, English writer, 1709. Article: 329487 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Impedance Coupling Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:58:28 -0400 Message-ID: <11t2g777bm5f72d@corp.supernews.com> References: <1137723399.762349.21350@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11t0kqfkan3cbfd@corp.supernews.com> Terry wrote: > > Hooked onto the plate output of the audio amp tube. While the capacitor > would block the flow of DC to chassis/ground and prevent the phones from > being 'live' at B+ voltage (as they often were in the 'old days', would not > that 'look' like a very low impedance to the tube? In other words a major > impedance mismatch? The idea is that the capacitor is in series with the phones (inductor). The cap (at least) will have fairly high impedance at audio frequencies. > > An unusual suggestion might be, to experiment using any old power > transformer? The Bogen xfmr mentioned earlier is a 70 volt PA system xfmr with multiple taps. You can get some pretty wild ratios with it and the fidelity has proven to be quite good. Its a favorite in the hi-z xtal crowd. > > But a question; even if the 150 ohms is the DC resistance of the headphones > what is the AC impedance? Maybe the impedance Z is somewhat higher? I think OP said 150 was the impedance. I'd have to look back. Sounds suspiciously like sound powered phones :) -Bill Article: 329488 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Cunningham CX-12 Tube Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:29:45 -0600 Message-ID: <13935-43D14839-1785@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1137784802.052947.127190@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> I HAVE "WD-II'S" IN THREE DIFFERENT STYLES OF GLASS, $20 TO $30. SEE MY WEBPAGE CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 329489 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim McShane" References: <1137777085.840877.28800@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FS: 45 ST Tubes Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:34:02 GMT Bret Ludwig wrote... > Oh no, they won't be going into an old radio. > The 45 is a sacred single ended hi-fi tube. Not these. Sometime back I participated in an argument about the 45 tube. Some of the posters here were upset about what happened to the price of 45s, and were quite vocal at the "audiophools" for driving up the price, depriving them of the tubes they need. Since then, whenever I get a 45 that isn't up to "audiophool standards" but tests and looks good I post it here - and (as Mark says too) I post it at a reasonable, fair price. The two tubes I have now would do great in many of the radios that use it I'm sure. No one here has ever bought one from me though, I'm not sure if I'm surprised or not... But anyway, the tubes I have need a good home, and some nice radios need a 45 that works and doesn't cost a zillion bucks. Jim McShane Need Tubes? Got a H-K Citation (Pre) Amp? Check http://pages.prodigy.net/jimmcshane Repro knobs for Citation gear in stock! Article: 329490 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Adaptaire ceiling fans [was (!) Re: Dual Turntables] Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:41:42 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1137571358.060010.288650@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In Wayne Boatwright writes: >On Wed 18 Jan 2006 09:34:13p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Tim >Mullen? >> That's it! Hunter Adaptaires. >Yes, that's the model name. I had forgotten it. We owned two of those at >one time. One back in the 1950s although the fan itself was much older. >The second one I bought new in the early 1970s before they quit making >them. I never knew they made them that late. >>>However, I don't know how you'd make that adjustment with the fan >>>actually running. >> >> Just by moving the lever, I'd guess. I know it's possible. >I'm sorry, but I don't know how that's possible, at least with the two fans >we owned. The blade shafts were connected to a collar which rotated. The >lever to change the pitch was also on this collar. This whole assembly was >in motion when the fan was running. Ah. I see. They must've changed the design. I hate to say this without actually having had my hand on one, but I *know* it was possible with the older models. From what I understand, there was a knob that protruded from the bottom of the fan. I'll have to research this further. I see the AFCA no longer allows free access to the gallery (fair enough), and I let my membership lapse some time ago. Time to rejoin, I guess. >> I've never had one. I've got an Emerson fernleaf in the bathroom, >> but that's the only "normal" ceiling fan -- there's a Jandus gyro in >> the living room, a Westinghouse Rotaire in the dining room, and a >> Westinghouse (DC!) gyro in the bedroom. If I bought another "normal" >> ceiling fan, though, it'd be an Adaptaire. >You have a nice collection! Thanks. I'm a sucker for fans with slip rings. Ya gotta have something rotating besides the blades! :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 329491 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Carter, K8VT" Subject: Re: ball on a pole? References: <1137723199.931938.298530@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <_QcAf.15397$Yu.7634@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:44:26 GMT pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > It's not a lightning arrestor if there isn't a spark gap asssociated > with it. Besides, lightning rods are pointed, not balled shaped, to > concentrate the electric field. I have a Liberty Bell Aerial that > is in a bell shape, not sphere, but is clearly intended to be an > aerial. My first impression is that this is a gimmic. Then I > realized that I clipped the antennae on my workbench to the tool > holder, which contained a mass of pliers, wrenches and screw drivers. > Lots of metal mass. Little area. But it was an excellent aerial. It > didn't bode well with me because I was taught that long wave or > broadcast reception depended on a having a long wire, not a > relatively small mass of metal. Length was the key. But now I'm > thinking I didn't get the true story, and those metal balls (or bells > in my case) are very effective antennae. Any wise observations out > there? Dave Don't know about long wave or medium wave, but it really doesn't take a lot of antenna to get good short wave reception. Back in the very early 80's, I was in the old Apple II computer club. There was an old guy in the club that knew I was a ham. Someone had given him a Drake SW-4 receiver and he wanted me to come over to his house and show him how to use it and to show him what kind of antenna to put up. I asked him if he had a paper clip. He said yes and brought it over to the radio. I unfolded it and put it in the antenna jack and then proceeded to tune in half a dozen International broadcast stations--granted, it was BBC and the rest of the usual powerhouses. Ultimately, we ended up with about 10 feet of wire put up with thumbtacks in the ceiling of his back porch. He wasn't an "ultra serious" DXer, but he heard *plenty* with that ten feet. Carter K8VT Article: 329492 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <1137723399.762349.21350@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11t0kqfkan3cbfd@corp.supernews.com> <11t2g777bm5f72d@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Impedance Coupling Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:23:54 -0330 "- exray -" wrote in message news:11t2g777bm5f72d@corp.supernews.com... > The Bogen xfmr mentioned earlier is a 70 volt PA system xfmr with multiple > taps. You can get some pretty wild ratios with it and the fidelity has > proven to be quite good. Its a favorite in the hi-z xtal crowd. > Yes I saw that posting about PA (Public Address Transformers). I had some vague ideas about how sound distribution systems operated, never having worked on them with those '70 volt line' transformers; but had never realized that they could have such a useful range of ratios for matching impedances! Makes sense. I would imagine those transformers used to attach speakers attached to the sound distribution line around a building never have to deal with DC current? Only the AC voice/music signal. So again I would comment that unlike the 'output transformer' in most tube sets, which attaches directly to a speaker and which will have the magnetising effect of quite a few milliamps of DC current flowing through its primary, from B+ to the tube plate, we are with a 1H5 dealing with very small dc current. In effect neglegible. . > I think OP said 150 was the impedance. I'd have to look back. Sounds > suspiciously like sound powered phones :) > The OP said "a modern set of 150 ohm headphones ......? ". It's interesting that in a second posting "The 2000 ohm phones are 'much louder' ". That certainly suggest quite a few more decibels power reaching the headphones which supports the idea of better (more efficient) impedance matching and therefore energy transfer! So would respectfully suggest that any experiments which will result in better 'matching' (i.e. more effective transfer of audio power) from the tube circuit to the headphone circuits would be productive and informative. > BTW using a choke in the plate as high impedance but still shunting by low Z phones to chassis/ground won't I think make much difference? DC voltage on the plate may be slightly higher not having to flow through say a 50K resistor with consequent voltage drop but there would still not be a 'good impedance match' between plate output and the load (headphones)? > PS. Reason for suggesting an old power transformer. They are often available and while designed for AC power transfer at either 60 or 50 hertz/cycles will probably work OK at typical audio/music frequencies used in broadcasting? Article: 329493 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Impedance Coupling Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:11:23 -0400 Message-ID: <11t2o0dilfjomec@corp.supernews.com> References: <1137723399.762349.21350@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11t0kqfkan3cbfd@corp.supernews.com> <11t2g777bm5f72d@corp.supernews.com> <1137790727.378188.159310@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> dconley@lawfacts.com wrote: > volume--2000 ohm headphones are still much louder. Would a choke coil > work any better than the resistor? Maybe. In most cases I would say yes but since the 1H5 plate is operating at such a low current you can plug in fairly high resistance and not take too big a hit on the plate voltage. I also like the idea of > experimenting with the different power transformers. I am going to try > that too. Even if the xfmr doesn't give the desired turns ratio you can use its highest Z (or R) winding and it will make a dandy AF choke to use in the above scenario. Good luck. -Bill Article: 329494 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <4V8Af.14957$924.240762@news20.bellglobal.com> <1137785598.642641.230980@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Adding AC primary fuse to Hallicrafters S-53 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:40:16 -0330 "nesesu" wrote in message news:1137785598.642641.230980@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Terry, use a 1/3 or 1/2A slow blo. Remember, fuses are only for fire > protection and will not necessarly protect the device they are on from > further damage. Even given that, they are still well worthwhile because > they MAY help prevent further damage. > No harm in adding the 3 wire cord to that set, but if it is connected > to antenna and ground as it should be, then why would you really need > it? Since the house wiring ground can be fairly noisy and grounding the > 'ground' at a second point can cause problems [it is contrary to the > NEC], I would tend not to add a 3 wire cord myself, but rely on the > proper earth ground for the antenna system. > > Neil S. > Thanks Neil. Especially about contrary to NEC. I guess you mean that my now deliberately grounded (AC electrically as it were) chassis could then be grounded 'again' if/when I have a solid ground at the antenna connection location. I'll examine the antenna input circuit before doing so; good point, thanks for the warning! That has some connection with a remote coax fed antenna aperiodic (untuned) matching system to an existing antenna in the trees, that will also be separately grounded to drain off (perhaps) static! Also the fact that any 'house' ground can be a pretty noisy source particularly with today's dimmers, fluorescents, computers, TV sets and many other electrical gadgets. Thanks for advice re sizing of slo-blow; realizing that the fuse MAY prevent damage. Better'n than none I guess! Terry. Article: 329495 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Impedance Coupling Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:30:44 -0400 Message-ID: <11t2p4mbehglvcf@corp.supernews.com> References: <1137723399.762349.21350@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11t0kqfkan3cbfd@corp.supernews.com> <11t2g777bm5f72d@corp.supernews.com> Terry wrote: > > I would imagine those transformers used to attach speakers attached to the > sound distribution line around a building never have to deal with DC > current? Only the AC voice/music signal. > So again I would comment that unlike the 'output transformer' in most tube > sets, which attaches directly to a speaker and which will have the > magnetising effect of quite a few milliamps of DC current flowing through > its primary, from B+ to the tube plate, we are with a 1H5 dealing with very > small dc current. In effect neglegible. I've been advised against using them as an output xfmr in a tube radio due to the DC current issue and/or unknown voltage breakdown specs. Maybe I've been lucky but I have ignored the good advice and they have worked well for me in "regular" tube radios (6F6, etc) :) Thats a 'good thing' in that you can often find nice 8" PA system speakers with the 70.7v xfmr attached on ebay for a few bux and that works out well for replacing a missing spkr in an old set. -Bill Article: 329496 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <4V8Af.14957$924.240762@news20.bellglobal.com> <1137785598.642641.230980@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Adding AC primary fuse to Hallicrafters S-53 Message-ID: <0HdAf.9262$bF.3657@dukeread07> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:41:54 -0500 "Terry" wrote in message news:LcdAf.22041$xk1.576881@news20.bellglobal.com... > > " > > > Thanks Neil. > Especially about contrary to NEC. I guess you mean that my now deliberately > grounded (AC electrically as it were) chassis could then be grounded 'again' > if/when I have a solid ground at the antenna connection location. > I'll examine the antenna input circuit before doing so; good point, thanks > for the warning! > That has some connection with a remote coax fed antenna aperiodic (untuned) > matching system to an existing antenna in the trees, that will also be > separately grounded to drain off (perhaps) static! > Also the fact that any 'house' ground can be a pretty noisy source > particularly with today's dimmers, fluorescents, computers, TV sets and many > other electrical gadgets. > Thanks for advice re sizing of slo-blow; realizing that the fuse MAY prevent > damage. Better'n than none I guess! > Terry. > > If that was true, then there are thousands of pieces of equipment out there that don't meet code. All grounds should be bonded together to meet code. That precludes the oroblem of grounds at different potentials. You can safely ground the chassis to the ground wire in the power cable, but AC neutral and ground lead should NEVER be tied to a chassis as some people have done in other newsgroups. Pete From none Sat Jan 21 12:01:34 EST 2006 Article: 329497 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hollowkiller" Subject: 1056140583 Make MONEY fast 1056140583 Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Sender: Hollowkiller Reply-To: none Organization: none Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:58:32 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-Library: Indy 9.00.10 Lines: 6 Message-ID: <43d171e6$0$10353$ba620dc5@nova.planet.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.81.24.38 X-Trace: 1137799655 nova.planet.nl 10353 86.81.24.38:64887 X-Complaints-To: abuse@planet.nl Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news.astraweb.com!newsrouter-eu.astraweb.com!feeder2.news-service.com!newsfeeder.wxs.nl!divide.nova.planet.nl!posting.nova.planet.nl!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:329497 Pay it fast it will be great..!!! hrFiX(QG.![R5;6:D:-< Article: 329498 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: FS: 45 ST Tubes References: <1137777085.840877.28800@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:45:11 GMT I always hear of people crying about the price of 45's and all kinds of ways to sub for them and here you have a pair for a good price and you say no one has bought any from this group. I have a good stock of them myself so I don't need any. I have found that 45's that test on the ? on my testers(Hickok 800 and 177) will blast away in a Majestic or AK 60. Jim McShane wrote: > Bret Ludwig wrote... > > >>Oh no, they won't be going into an old radio. >>The 45 is a sacred single ended hi-fi tube. > > > Not these. Sometime back I participated in an > argument about the 45 tube. Some of the posters > here were upset about what happened to the > price of 45s, and were quite vocal at the > "audiophools" for driving up the price, depriving > them of the tubes they need. > > Since then, whenever I get a 45 that isn't > up to "audiophool standards" but tests and > looks good I post it here - and (as Mark says > too) I post it at a reasonable, fair price. The two > tubes I have now would do great in many of the > radios that use it I'm sure. > > No one here has ever bought one from me > though, I'm not sure if I'm surprised or not... > > But anyway, the tubes I have need a good home, > and some nice radios need a 45 that works and > doesn't cost a zillion bucks. > > Jim McShane > Need Tubes? Got a H-K Citation (Pre) Amp? > Check http://pages.prodigy.net/jimmcshane > Repro knobs for Citation gear in stock! > > Article: 329499 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1137777085.840877.28800@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FS: 45 ST Tubes Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:47:37 -0500 "Lou deGonzague" wrote in message news:rufAf.99738$XJ5.19901@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > I always hear of people crying about the price of 45's and all kinds of > ways to sub for them and here you have a pair for a good price and you > say no one has bought any from this group Uncle Peter bought them. I have several sets that will be needing them. Pete Article: 329500 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Impedance Coupling References: <1137723399.762349.21350@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11t0kqfkan3cbfd@corp.supernews.com> <11t2g777bm5f72d@corp.supernews.com> <1137790727.378188.159310@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:49:32 GMT I have some old Kenyon P to P to line transformers that should do a goo job here. Let me get out to the storage shed and see what I have. I think they are about 90K to 200 ohms or something like that. They were broadcast quality. dconley@lawfacts.com wrote: > You guys are doing a great job of educating me. I said the impedance > of the phones was 150 ohms, but actually I don't know what the exact > impedance is. I measured the resistance and it was around 150 ohms. > These are just run of the mill stereo headphones. Exray, I tried your > suggestion and got relatively good results with a .01 cap and the 50K > resistor. It sounded pretty good, but I would like a little more > volume--2000 ohm headphones are still much louder. Would a choke coil > work any better than the resistor? I also like the idea of > experimenting with the different power transformers. I am going to try > that too. > Article: 329501 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: bead blasting chassis? Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:52:56 -0700 Message-ID: <26754-43D193F8-2058@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: <1137776993.457701.263060@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Eddie said i do it all the time. i usually pull the tuner and acid dip it. i tape the IF cans with duct tape. after the chassis is clean, i pull the covers and clean the cans and the trimmers. Thats all you should need to know . If he does it then it works . I dont have a bead blaster so i cant do it . Harbor Freight sells nice table top size bead blasters for around 100$ . Article: 329502 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Fred C" References: <43cb0911@news.meer.net> <1137414386.897922.265290@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43cda7e0@news.meer.net> <1137595759.183421.69760@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Movie Dial Airlines Message-ID: <43d19bd2@news.meer.net> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:26:20 -0500 Thanks for all the info Brian. I have found in my spare parts stuff 3 #81 6volt auto light bulbs, which is what my 62-267 has in it. All 3 of them have different filament arrangements. One has a flat filament winding from post wire to post wire. Another has a curved (arched) filament between the 2 posts, and the third has a steeple sort of sharp winding with no support for the peak point. I can see why alignment must be done after the bulb is inserted for best resullts. By the way, could you indicate thje kind of cabinet your 62-311 is in ? Riders- Mont. Ward vol. 9 pages 5-8 lists 3 different models together. They are 63-261, 63-311, and 62-411. They don't seem to spell out the differences. "Brian" wrote in message news:1137595759.183421.69760@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Thanks for the heads-up, Fred. I pulled the Airline chassis and removed > the bulb from the film assembly. It is a 63, not a 68. The spare bulb > still looks like a 68 to me, but maybe it was just stamped a bit deep. > > The reason I had to pull the chassis to get the bulb out is that the > bulb holder was intentionally misaligned with the piece it fits into. > This was necessary to keep the filament from being parallel to the > light path. There is a groove in the bulb holder and a ridge in the > piece it fits into. When these are aligned, the holder slides in > smoothly and the filament is parallel to the light path. This > orientation yields a drop in overall illumination and some > nonuniformity on the screen. My bulbs were made in Taiwan. I suspect > that the filaments are oriented 90 degrees to those in old US lamps. > (The Taiwan filament is perpendicular to a line drawn between the two > bayonet tabs.) When I insert the holder all the way down, it's possible > to rotate it perhaps 45 degrees to eliminate the nonuniform > illumination before the holder gets too tight to turn. Even though the > groove and ridge are misaligned, at this position I can still move the > holder up and down to make lines in the film image straight on the > screen. It doesn't seem to be necessary to have the filament exactly > perpendicular to the light path, but getting it away from being > parallel to it really improves the screen image. > > Before I removed it, I noticed that pressing against the bulb holder > brightened the light output. In my holder the center contact is > spring-loaded. It has no wired connection and rotates freely. I got > some pretty erratic resistance measurements. I squirted the contact > with WD-40 and worked it in and out to try to scrape off anything > nonconductive. It seemed bright and stable once I put everything back > together. > > These Movie Dials are wonderful, but they aren't for someone who > doesn't enjoy paying a lot of attention to the details. > > Brian > Article: 329503 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1137724665.553872.113550@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I am clearing out Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:38:11 GMT If you have anything thats "distressed" in need of restoration or too ugly to Auction let me know! If your close enough I could pick up. Im not reccomending Ebay, but for good high quality stuff customers are willing to pay for shipping these days. My cheap but dependable shippers have moved on to other things in life and I have to have things go freight this year... and the cost isnt scaring everyone off. All I have to do is deliver it to the UPS store with specific packing instructions and it goes freight. I WOULD recommend Radioattic.com, the site is attempting to cater to the better condition or restored sets and Ive had very good luck with it myself. If you dont want to ship you can still use the attic and state that on your descriptions. Keith wrote in message news:1137724665.553872.113550@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I've decided to sell my radios and concentrate on phonographs. I've > contacted Estes auctions for selling. Ebay is out because of the > hassle of packing for shipping. Any advice? > Dave > Article: 329504 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1137777085.840877.28800@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FS: 45 ST Tubes Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:44:06 GMT Im getting to the point of buying up $15 45's and I can GARENTEE you that they will go into an old radio if I buy them!! The weak ones have one drawback though, Sets like the Victor R34 have such a high voltage power supply that if the 45's are weak and dont draw enough current the B+ tends to run high, and can stress things. Keith "Bret Ludwig" wrote in message news:1137777085.840877.28800@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Jim McShane wrote: >> I have a couple used 45s that should be excellent for >> restoration of an old radio: >> >> (1) 45 ST bottle, labeled Wizard, probably Sylvania >> made, tests good with a good getter too. White boxed, >> $14.50. >> >> (1) 45 RCA, ST bottle, nice looking used tube, tests >> good, small amount of loose material in the tube, a nice >> tube for an old radio restoration, $14.00 >> >> > > Oh no, they won't be going into an old radio. The 45 is a sacred > single ended hi-fi tube. > Article: 329505 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Eddie, a challenge... Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:31:13 -0700 Message-ID: <26754-43D19CF1-2065@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: Looking at an original if you had the right ``stuff`` i suppose extentions could be made . The back of the piece has `walls` all the way around that stand 3/8`` high . The dial glass is actually right against the back of the frame and the `walls` extend out behind the glass . I believe the `walls ` are mostly to hide the raw edge of the wood in the cabinet and their `quick` way to hold the glass in . This frame is 6-3/4 X 4-1/2 not including the eye hole . I suppose an added 1/4`` would get it closer to original . One thing is the eye hole has shrunk down a bit also . As i mentioned a repro of a shrunk original ..without.. the back walls would make almost anyone happy . The original with 2 chipped corners . http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/ken123/884b3b05.jpg Article: 329506 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Anybody Need Any One Volt Tubes ?? (Not 1L6's though) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:35:07 -0700 Message-ID: <26754-43D19DDB-2066@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: 1AJ4 .. DF96 1AB6 ..DK96 1AH5 ..DAF96 3Y4 ..DL97 Original .. foreign sub These are all small 7 pin Article: 329507 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: Hammarlund HX50 6DQ5 Plate choke question. Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 04:40:23 GMT Gents, I am restoring an HX50 for a friend. It appears that someone has modified L115 (wrapped around R181, 47 ohm 1w) by altering the amount of turns in two ways. 1) Inspection of the solder ends where the inductor (L115) is soldered to the resistor's lead wire appears to have been changed. Extra overlapping wire, as though someone shortened the total length of the inductor's wire, has been adjusted and soldered to the resistor's lead wires. 2) Solder blobs have been placed on the inductor as to short out two of the turns. Please see pictures at the bottom of page: http://www.ppinyot.com/hammarlund.htm. Sorry for the fuzzy blow ups. I do not have a close up Macro lens available at this time. Can someone tell me the proper quantity of turns the inductor L115 should have, wrapped around R181, 47ohm 1w resistor? And/or send me a picture of an operational unit? It would be a big help to have this worked out before +700v, alignment and calibration. Thanks, Paul kb3lzp. Article: 329508 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Hammarlund HX50 6DQ5 Plate choke question. References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:09:03 GMT Paul P wrote: > Can someone tell me the proper quantity of turns the inductor L115 should > have, wrapped around R181, 47ohm 1w resistor? And/or send me a picture of > an operational unit? Actually, it's not really that critical. The purpose of that is to eliminate parasitic oscillations in the final amplifier tube. Typically, it was 5 or 6 turns wrapped around a 2 watt carbon resistor. Fairly low Q all in all to keep it from being resonant at some other frequency. I remember seeing values from 10-47 ohms. and from 4-8 turns. One thing to do as a "reality check" is to look in a similiar vintage ARRL handbook. They will have the details on what to use for the "parisitic choke" values. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329509 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "t.hoehler" References: Subject: Re: Hammarlund HX50 6DQ5 Plate choke question. Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:19:33 GMT In 100 - 150 watt amplifiers for 80 thru 10 meters, the Z networks in the plate lead are eight turns of #24 enamalled wire wound over a 47 - 56 ohm, 1 watt carbon resistor. I can't see where shorting turns would help solve any problems, maybe this is just a fluke. I have used this parasitic network many times with plate voltages up to 1100 volts and plate currents to 300 ma with no trouble. Regards, Tom "Paul P" wrote in message news:XWiAf.217$Jn1.125@trndny01... > Gents, > I am restoring an HX50 for a friend. It appears that someone has modified > L115 (wrapped around R181, 47 ohm 1w) by altering the amount of turns in > two > ways. > > 1) Inspection of the solder ends where the inductor (L115) is soldered to > the resistor's lead wire appears to have been changed. Extra overlapping > wire, as though someone shortened the total length of the inductor's wire, > has been adjusted and soldered to the resistor's lead wires. > > 2) Solder blobs have been placed on the inductor as to short out two of > the > turns. > > Please see pictures at the bottom of page: > http://www.ppinyot.com/hammarlund.htm. Sorry for the fuzzy blow ups. I > do > not have a close up Macro lens available at this time. > > Can someone tell me the proper quantity of turns the inductor L115 should > have, wrapped around R181, 47ohm 1w resistor? And/or send me a picture of > an operational unit? > > It would be a big help to have this worked out before +700v, alignment and > calibration. > > Thanks, > Paul > kb3lzp. > > > Article: 329510 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Hammarlund HX50 6DQ5 Plate choke question. References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:45:09 GMT t.hoehler wrote: > eight turns of #24 enamalled wire wound over a 47 - 56 ohm, 1 > watt carbon resistor. Thanks Tom. Jeff I used to have a Hamarlund HX50 transmitter. I used it with an RAO-7 Navy receiver at the time. -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329511 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Spotted these at a flea today......Wishful thinking? Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:48:54 -0800 Message-ID: I saw these two novelty sets at the Santa Cruz flea market today. I had my camera with me, so I fired off a couple of shots (Photos posted in binaries). Take a look at the price tag on that Pepsi radio. Is it worth anywhere near that price? (I've never seen one in the flesh). How about the owl radio, which had a price tag on its backside of $145.00? Both of these were on the same seller's table, along with some other items that also seemed to be more than a little on the high side pricewise. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 329512 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: bead blasting chassis? Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:54:37 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1R3Af.13817$Jd.11318@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> <5e7043337e8f240d2f87be6fe97412e3@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Pete_O wrote: > > I've been using commercial grade ZEP detergent with a compressor, rinsing > under a garden hose, blowing off with air, and drying in a warm oven. The > pressurized ZEP/rinse is EXACTLY what HP used for instrument service- I > did it hundreds of times there; remove the meters and plug the xfmrs and > spray! Wouldn't impurities in ordinary tap water do bad things to some electronic items? Most procedures I have seen using water as a washing agent specify distilled water for the final rinse at least. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 329513 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: I Wish Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:46:35 -0800 Message-ID: <8004-43C9470B-289@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> References: <1137259016.815861.209490@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> >From Peter W.: >ALIEN. ALIEN. Drop your preconceived >notions of what they *must* be. >Whatever they are whereever they are it >_WILL_ be a surprise. Remember we're just playin' for a moment with a hypothetical- that space, far from being 'void' and 'nothingness', is most profoundly 'Something'- something tantamount to the 'pneuma' of our age. As such, it is a vast and incredibly rich information field. It is universally holographic and pregnant with archetypes of all biological lifeforms, driving DNA synthesis to the ultimate expression of itself: an upright biped endowed with self-awareness and self-will. Y'see, _we_ are its ultimate "organs of sentience" - enabling it to consciously "see itself". Thus space, whatever it is, has the very attributes of 'God', playing out similar roles on habitable planets throughout the universe, as an upright biped pondering its cosmic origins. OTOH, if space is indeed pure nothingness and void, then all bets are off regarding what's "out there" and may one day visit us. Bill(oc) Article: 329514 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 6Q7 a crappy tube? Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:50:15 -0400 Message-ID: <11sj3hnknop8230@corp.supernews.com> References: Keith Park wrote: > I just replaced another noisy 6Q7... and when going though my baggie of them > found many marked > intermittant, noisy, pops etc... > > Where they a problem in general?? > > Keith > > Resolder the top cap. Thats a high impedance connection in most sets and very picky about a perfect connection. Apart from that...yeah, they do tend to run bad for much the same reason. -Bill Article: 329515 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <11si1ds9t2c6c57@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: See My Latest Basket Case Restorations on Binaries Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:11:34 -0600 Message-ID: <43c99fcd$0$3022$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com> Oohies. Very nice! You get a good sheen. Are you still using that Critter to finish? paul "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11si1ds9t2c6c57@corp.supernews.com... > Under Arce Tombstone and Emerson DS-365, will post to Forum soon. > > John H. > Article: 329516 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stop the pointless bickering please" References: <1137291757.025821.53330@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137301183.146122.37270@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Technics Turntable question Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:42:18 -0700 Message-ID: <43c9e125$0$8278$6d56accd@news.srvinet.com> No, he could probably gum up rec.antiques.radio+-.phono with it, but you are right about him mentioning Rega etc. Fro those of you who gripe at Graham, please read this and know he does have a small clue. I have about 60,000 more groups in the browser now! WHY? No matter... "graham" wrote in message news:E42dnTYQpcZwRFTeRVn-iA@comcast.com... > > "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message > news:1137301183.146122.37270@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > Why would you say that, Graham? I own 3 TTs and I buy and sell them all > > the time. Some of the other groups might try to persuade him to spend a > > lot more than he needs to. This group is radio and phono, how is he to > > know that means old cranks? > > > ... read what he said in his post about Project & Rega turntables, these > are entry level high-end units ... Dual & Technics are a step below the > ones above ... mid-fi at best ... which might be good enough for him > or you and all the others here ... but there is a whole other world out there > in turntables, phono stages, cartridges, record cleaning machines and even > record flatting machines ... but, do we really want to go there in this group ... > > Article: 329517 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: 8 tube philco car radio Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:53:48 -0600 Message-ID: <20330-43D24AFC-1977@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: Metinks I once read something many,many Moons ago about using tube type car radios in the house.I think I had read something about a tube type car radio should be installed in a metal box enclosure.Speaking of them old push button tube type car radios,I never saw one yet that would ever stay on station for long when I pushed them buttons.Every time,after I had preset certain push buttons for certain radio stations,it wasen't long and I had to fine tune whatever radio stations by turning them knobs. cuhulin Article: 329518 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Eddie, a challenge... Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:47:53 -0700 Message-ID: <19403-43D257A9-1975@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: <1137856885.480893.74440@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> I`m not sure either ? but many have requested the one i pictured Article: 329519 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: bead blasting chassis? Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:16:08 -0700 Message-ID: <19403-43D25E48-1987@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: Wouldn't impurities in ordinary tap water do bad things to some electronic items? Most No , another myth or personal belief , scared to do because 6 or 7 people said it wont work . Where i live the water is hard as rocks . If you dry things off properly and quickly there will be no problems at all . In the last few years i have restored several jukeboxes . These things get super nasty dirty from years of being in public smoking areas and techs pouring oil in them . The only efficient way to clean these up is to use water . I use the garden hose with a nozel and a good detergent / cleaners . Blowing the parts off shortly after washing will keep hard water from forming . .When washing amp and selector chassis consisting of many sets of contact points after blowing them dry setting them in the sun for a few hours is enough . For the blower the best thing i found is an old vacuum cleaner with a blower port to put the hose and a flat tool on the hose . This has enough power to blow objects across the floor . The most important thing is the air gets warm because the motor gets hot . A compressor will work but takes longer because its cold air . The vaccum works good to blow dust from all objects including the garage floor and driveway . I agree with cleaning oil and goo from anything to be bead blasted . ``dry rust only `` Also if your chassis is pitted it will show in the end . If you try to bead it to long it may warp the metal . Article: 329520 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: Subject: Re: bead blasting chassis? Message-ID: <5itAf.290$6o.273@fe06.ams> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:29:31 -0600 Thanks for all the great responses, guys! I thought the idea might get jumped-on but there are a lot of great observations and ideas here! So far, I've only tried it on a removed stepper box from a remote control radio. Worked well because there was no soft gunk on the box. Cheers, Nelson Article: 329550 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 8 tube philco car radio From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <20330-43D24AFC-1977@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> <11t5q825pd8483b@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:15:32 GMT In article <11t5q825pd8483b@corp.supernews.com>, exray@coqui.net says... > > >I shoe-horned an old 55 Ford radio into a homemade cabinet and simply >replaced the vibrator and xfmr with a regular "radio" power transformer. >Worked great! > >-Bill The one I converted was a Buick ... ran it off a huge old transformer that I found someplace and a huge Selenium Rectifier .... had Push Pull toobes in the output... great audio.. and very sensitive ... Put that thing in a plywood box.... painted it Hot Pink .... just because that happened to be the color on hand at the moment! John k9uwa /w4 Article: 329551 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FYI, Make your own chassis mount washers From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <11t5qh9cs4n4p20@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:35:50 GMT In article <11t5qh9cs4n4p20@corp.supernews.com>, exray@coqui.net says... > > >See the silicone washers here also...(and a wonderful restoration). >http://ludens.cl/Radiohis/ak206/ak206.html > >-Bill most interesting use for ARRL handbooks that I have seen lately ! John k9uwa /w4 snowbird Article: 329552 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: ball on a pole? Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 09:39:09 -0400 Message-ID: <11t72nvdhch5cc6@corp.supernews.com> References: <8jOzf.38547$7S.22053@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <11t6bgo642n8k64@corp.supernews.com> - exray - wrote: > William B Noble (don't reply to this address) wrote: > >> sooo, was this just "snake oil", or was there some beneficial >> property to this speherical antenna? I can't see how it would be >> better than just a short wire, but then again.... > > > When properly mounted high on a rooftop (the mast is part of the > configuration) one has a nice long feedline to serve as an antenna. The > ball does nothing other than advertise to the neighbors that you have > one and they don't. > Remember, this was the era when they sold canisters of rocks for > underground antennas too. Those are harder to find now :) > Audiophools don't get first dibs on inventing this type of stuff. > > -Bill I've posted an original ad (Jan 1931 Radio News) of the Superball...and the Red Arrow antennas. I spoke to soon...It seems that the ball assembly serves as a junction point for the 4 wires that essentially serve as a top hat for the antenna wire. The "handsome weather vane" does too. http://www.sparkbench.com/superball1.jpg Article: 329553 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: FYI, Make your own chassis mount washers References: <11t5qh9cs4n4p20@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:57:13 GMT Now that's a very impressive restoration, that man is really dedicated to his craft. - exray - wrote: > Ken wrote: > >> It is difficult for me to find the soft type mounting washers for >> tuning caps and phono motors, mostly I find the hard rubber type. I >> found that a silicone sealant will form the kind of washer I'm looking >> for, soft and plyable. > > > See the silicone washers here also...(and a wonderful restoration). > http://ludens.cl/Radiohis/ak206/ak206.html > > -Bill Article: 329554 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: ball on a pole? References: <8jOzf.38547$7S.22053@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <43D31ECE.E1445E5E@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:41:30 GMT Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Do you know why there is a ball on the top of a car radio antenna? > Its not there for looks. It's to keep all the things from Jack in the Box, Disneyland Union 76 and Der Wienerschnitzel from coming off. Actually, it's an anti-corona ball. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329555 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: PHONO: Can 45s be Un-Warped? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:26:46 GMT "graham" wrote in message news:j8CdnfL0j4LdA07eRVn-tQ@comcast.com... > $1,699.00 ... there is your flag ... > You've got to admit, it's a neat idea. Surely there's a way to produce one at less expense. Perhaps the price is so high being that they're selling to such a select market, that they need to recoup their tooling and design costs? Jon Article: 329556 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1137628255.402497.65440@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Thermistor to delay B+ voltage build up?????? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:37:07 -0500 "Terry" wrote in message news:dP8Af.14686$924.240550@news20.bellglobal.com... > > And to put a triac or other into the centre tap of, say, the transformer B+ > secondary (at AC) would mean digging into the wiring; rather than some > easily reversible and recognizable 'mod' mounted in a unit plugged into the > rectifier tube socket above chassis! Fortunately lots of spare room > around/above the rectifier socket! > > What is the application? Radio or audio amplifier? I'd be very leary of adding a triac to a radio receiver--unless you like listening to buzz. My honest opinion is that a simple a problem is being taken to extremes.... Use higher voltage filter caps. FWIW Pete Article: 329557 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: bead blasting chassis? Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 09:09:02 -0700 Message-ID: <28691-43D3AE1E-2676@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> References: <11t5q2ho3cepba9@corp.supernews.com> Yes Bill thats why i said its important to blow things dry . When i used to work for my brother in the tv shop i had to wash several pieces of equipment ( tv sets , answeing machines ) of soda pop or coffee . I used windex , brush then rinsed in the sink in our hard water then blew dry with the warm vacuum blower . Never a problem . Article: 329558 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: bead blasting chassis? Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:37:17 -0400 Message-ID: <11t7d5ueli66200@corp.supernews.com> References: <11t5q2ho3cepba9@corp.supernews.com> <28691-43D3AE1E-2676@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> Ken G. wrote: > Yes Bill thats why i said its important to blow things dry . When i used > to work for my brother in the tv shop i had to wash several pieces of > equipment ( tv sets , answeing machines ) of soda pop or coffee . I used > windex , brush then rinsed in the sink in our hard water then blew dry > with the warm vacuum blower . Never a problem . > There shouldn't be a problem with TV sets and stuff but its still better to blow away the water, not just evaporate the water in place with a warm source. Article: 329559 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43D3B84F.7A6BB0A5@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: bead blasting chassis? References: Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 16:53:10 GMT Stewart Schooley wrote: > > Nelson Gietz wrote: > > Okay, this may seem off the wall, but I've read about > > guys putting chasses (sp?) in the dishwasher. > > So... has anyone tried giving an intact chassis a light > > blasting with glass bead to clean it? I can see some > > potential problems if the IF can openings are not closed > > up, and the tuner and other bearings are not protected. > > But has anyone tried it? If so, what happened? > > Cheers, > > Nelson > > > > > Has anyone looked into using ground nut shells in a DIY blaster? > > Ground pecan shells are used to clean marble sculpture because they > clean without damaging. > > I lifted this from the Internet; > > Although the pecan is chiefly grown for its fruit, its wood is valuable for flooring, furniture, and paneling. Ground pecan shells are used to clean jet engines! They are also used to make craft items (molded decorative items) and mixed with glue as a filler to bond plywood. Ground pecan shells are also used for mulch. > > Stewart I know a guy at one of the local flea markets with a machine that removes the shells from the pecans he sells. Now, how do we get them ground up? I could probably get quite a bit. I've seen him dump a lot of the shells in the dumpster, so the price should be right, unless he has found a use for them. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 329560 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: PHONO: Can 45s be Un-Warped? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:24:43 GMT More likely the price is so high because they're selling to audiophools. -- Mike Schultz "Jon" wrote in message news:WuNAf.101303$XJ5.65650@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > "graham" wrote in message > news:j8CdnfL0j4LdA07eRVn-tQ@comcast.com... >> $1,699.00 ... there is your flag ... >> > > You've got to admit, it's a neat idea. Surely there's a way to produce one > at less expense. Perhaps the price is so high being that they're selling > to such a select market, that they need to recoup their tooling and design > costs? > > Jon > > > Article: 329561 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: Compact AM antenna needed - THANKS References: Message-ID: <_rPAf.15268$V.2999@fed1read04> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:40:32 -0700 Thanks to all who responded. I have recommended the Terk and the RS units to this guy. We'll see if he follows up. Bill ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` Bill Jeffrey wrote: > I know this topic has been covered - my apologies for not being able to > find it. > > A friend has a table-top transistor AM radio, nothing special. He lives > in CT, wants to be able to listen to a specific station in NYC, but it > comes in only weakly. He will not consider a long-wire, of course. He > is looking for a table-top antenna that will increase the sensitivity of > the radio a bit. I seem to recall a discussion of a tuned loop that was > placed next to the radio to be helped? > > Thanks > > Bill Jeffrey Article: 329562 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: bead blasting chassis? Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:39:44 -0700 Message-ID: <28691-43D3C360-2708@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> References: <11t7d5ueli66200@corp.supernews.com> Oh dear ... I mentioned blowing it off several times . Article: 329563 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HUGE 8-track tape-player-supplies sale-Ebay-BARGAIN DEALS ! Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:33:57 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1137606914.667355.253840@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:47:25 -0500, "Ken Doyle" wrote: > >WARNING! >This seller is a weasel. He spams this antique radio group constantly with >these off topic FA posts, and REFUSES to put even FA in the subject header. > >Buy from this sleezeball at your own risk. NOTICE: This con artist and fraudster, Charlie Nudo of Drums, PA. aka 66fourdoor, trippin28track, trippingtoo8track and a host of others, is notrious for illegal spamming of Usenet groups for his eBay trash auctions. He is an unemployed rag picker, the victim of his own political convictions, and feels it's his right to disrupt any Usenet NG with his spam whenever he needs money. In case you're not aware, unwanted spamming of links to eBay auctions on Usenet newsgroups is AGAINST EBAY'S TERMS OF SERVICE and is grounds for TERMINATION OF THE SPAMMER'S ACCOUNT. Also, his ISP, epix.net, has received many complaints about his spam activities in the past, and he's already lost service from ptd.net for the same reason. Going to the previous poster's warning, he IS a sleazeball, and was busted for selling illegally duped VHS and quad (Q8) tapes on eBay. SOLUTION: Kill filing helps, but what works better is to click on his auctions, scroll down to the bottom of each page, and click on the "security center" link, and then follow the Java menu to lodge complaints about 'outside links' and spamming. Enough of this, and this greaseball will finally be gone from eBay...until the next of his many names appears, and then more complaints will follow. Also, forwarding his spam to abuse@epix.net and groups-abuse@google.com can only help. I speak from experience. This asshole has defraded me not once, but twice for two fraudulent items on eBay under two different seller names. He also tries to pass himself off as someone knowledgable about all things electronic when he has no workable knowledge at all. Right now, he's torn apart some old Marconi console to gut it for the cheaseball amp, which he thought was an "SET". He claims it has "SBQ5" tubes in it. Obviously he has not a clue as to what he's talking about. He's pond scum, and anything anyone can do to help shut him down for good works in the public interest. dB Article: 329564 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: JVC & LEAR JET serviced home component 8track decks-Ebay Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:18:09 -0500 Message-ID: <11t7mjk5f8jvccf@news.supernews.com> References: <1137356641.440124.88170@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <11suah9q3s57cfc@news.supernews.com> <24KdnW4ZUJF0Lk7enZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@giganews.com> "Ken Doyle" wrote in message news:24KdnW4ZUJF0Lk7enZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@giganews.com... > > "Buck Frobisher" wrote: >> Well, THAT oughta fix HIS little red wagon! Humph. > > The idea is to let potential buyers know that this seller doesn't follow > rules. > I would think that anyone that sees his posts/threads here wouldn't buy a > thing from him. > > Ken D. So, your strategy is to spam the ng with your warnings? Yeah, that'll stop him cold... Article: 329565 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: FYI, Make your own chassis mount washers References: <11t5qh9cs4n4p20@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:33:36 -0500 He brought that one back from the dead AND buried. A beautiful restoration. Ken Lou deGonzague wrote: > Now that's a very impressive restoration, that man is really dedicated > to his craft. > > - exray - wrote: > >> Ken wrote: >> >>> It is difficult for me to find the soft type mounting washers for >>> tuning caps and phono motors, mostly I find the hard rubber type. I >>> found that a silicone sealant will form the kind of washer I'm >>> looking for, soft and plyable. >> >> >> >> See the silicone washers here also...(and a wonderful restoration). >> http://ludens.cl/Radiohis/ak206/ak206.html >> >> -Bill Article: 329566 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "wa2mze(spamless)" <"wa2mze(spamless)"@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Just lost my first vacuum tube... References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:03:43 -0500 William R. Walsh wrote: > Hello all... > > I don't suppose that's a rite of passage in some way...? :-) > > This morning I wanted to listen to my Delco six-tube table radio. > Unfortunately, it simply would not power up. Tonight I got out the Sencore > tube tester and another radio using the same tube lineup. Some testing and > one swap confirmed that I'd lost a 12SK7 tube in the radio. It appears to > have been the only original ("Delco" branded) tube left in the set. > > For the moment I've borrowed a tube from another radio. However, I'd like to > replace this one. Since I've never bought a vacuum tube before, where is a > good place to do so? Anything to look out for? Would anyone here on the > group sell me one? > > William > > www.fairradio.com www.radiodaze.com Article: 329567 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" Subject: RCA Chanalyst is Sold Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:28:17 -0600 Thanks all who were interested. -- Regards B.H. Article: 329568 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" Subject: Clough-Brengle model 87 transmitter, DONE Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 00:11:16 GMT It was a lazy Sunday around here so I got to spend some time in the display room putting the finishing touches on the model 87 transmitter. I just updated the web page with photos, http://radioheaven.homestead.com/CB87.html Many thanks to all that helped with this project. I'm really proud of how it turned out. Let me know what you think. Several of us are going to do an antique radio display at the upcoming Charlotte Ham Fest, you might get to see it there, and at the Charlotte Conference in March. It feels really good to have this project done, now I can clean up the display room again. 73, Ron Article: 329569 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Clough-Brengle model 87 transmitter, DONE Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:19:38 -0400 Message-ID: <11t888s99iagc57@corp.supernews.com> References: Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: > > I'm really proud of how it turned out. > Let me know what you think. > > > It feels really good to have this project done, > now I can clean up the display room again. > > 73, Ron > > Nice rig! -Bill Article: 329570 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: Clough-Brengle model 87 transmitter, DONE Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:22:51 -0600 " Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:EaVAf.26933$iQ.7668@tornado.southeast.rr.com... > It was a lazy Sunday around here so I got to spend some time > in the display room putting the finishing touches on the > model 87 transmitter. I just updated the web page with photos, > > http://radioheaven.homestead.com/CB87.html > > Many thanks to all that helped with this project. > > I'm really proud of how it turned out. > Let me know what you think. > > Several of us are going to do an antique radio display at the upcoming > Charlotte Ham Fest, you might get to see it there, and > at the Charlotte Conference in March. > > It feels really good to have this project done, > now I can clean up the display room again. > > 73, Ron > > Looks great Ron. Thanks for sharing it. B.H. Article: 329571 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" Subject: Zen 9 S 367 BW switch arcing! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 00:24:02 GMT Hi all, OK, here is one that Id like to find out if anyone else has dealt with. The middle wafer of the bandswitch as B+ on one side and ground on the other, and its arcing between the two where one side is peened into the phenolic wafer, about .1" gap. If I bring the set up slow its fine and it works but if I just throw the switch it smokes, and when I cleaned the bad spot it arced over at another point. It has the correct tubes, new filters etc... is there something else Im missing that keeps the B+ from coming up too fast OR are these wafer designs a problem that I just havent run into yet? Thanks for anyones thoughts. Keith Article: 329572 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Zen 9 S 367 BW switch arcing! References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 01:00:35 GMT I had to do that with a sw in a Sparton console. I used a Dremel with a flex shaft and a dentist drill. A lot like drilling out a cavity. Once I removed the burnt material all was well. That was a couple years ago so I guess the operation was a success. Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > > Keith Park wrote: > >> is there something else Im missing that keeps the B+ from coming up >> too fast OR are these wafer designs a problem that I just havent run >> into yet? > > > The wafer died the first time it arced. You'll never get rid of the > carbon track and it will continue to find new paths to arc over. > > ABout all you can do at this point is to replace the wafer section. > > Or, grind out all of the carbon and back fill the gap with epoxy. > > Jeff > Article: 329573 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Zen 9 S 367 BW switch arcing! Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 16:59:19 -0800 Message-ID: <13216-43D42A67-1174@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> References: Keith, Very often you can take something like a dental pick to scrape out all the carbonized material. Once it's clean and not acring any more, you can seal the 'wound' with a dab of epoxy. Bill(oc) Article: 329574 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <13216-43D42A67-1174@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Zen 9 S 367 BW switch arcing! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:07:27 -0500 "Bill Sheppard" wrote in message news:13216-43D42A67-1174@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net... > Keith, > Very often you can take something like a dental pick to > scrape out all the carbonized material. Once it's clean and not acring > any more, you can seal the 'wound' with a dab of epoxy. > Bill(oc) > That's what I use: dental cleaning tools. You have to remove the burnt material completely, and then seal the open pores on the phenolic. I use a toothpick to carry very small drops of clear plastic spray to the scraped areas. Pete Article: 329575 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: Hammarlund HX50 6DQ5 Plate choke question. Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 02:54:09 GMT Thank you guys for the replies. I have removed the solder bridges with some solder wick, checked the 47 ohm resistor and it is OK. Also research in the ARRL 2000 and 2006 books explains the use of this choke, its different configurations and how to test an amp for indications of parasitic oscillations. Thanks for this clues on how to resolve this problem. Your direction helped. I will report back later and let you know how the initial restoration alignment and burn in goes. Paul. Article: 329576 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: Finished my Snow White! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 02:57:18 GMT That looks great! Did you (would you) describe how you made the front of the radio? If so I missed it. Paul. "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:mmd8t1t1msa5kfok4e32c4p0emgqq1f8sm@4ax.com... > At last. Picture on the binaries. More to come on my web site when I > get time. > Article: 329577 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Zen 9 S 367 BW switch arcing! References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:58:36 -0500 I got this tip here on this ng. I don't know where this area is in the circuit, but see if you can reroute the B+, takeing it off the sw terminal and possibly using a capacitor to switch whatever. If you can pinpoint the B+ terminal let us know, we'll find it on the schematic and put our collective matter together to improvise. A circuit rewire worked for me, and worked as well as the original. Ken Keith Park wrote: > Hi all, > > OK, here is one that Id like to find out if anyone else has dealt with. > > The middle wafer of the bandswitch as B+ on one side and ground on the > other, and its arcing between the two where one side is peened into the > phenolic wafer, about .1" gap. If I bring the set up slow its fine and it > works but if I just throw the switch it smokes, and when I cleaned the bad > spot it arced over at another point. It has the correct tubes, new filters > etc... is there something else Im missing that keeps the B+ from coming up > too fast OR are these wafer designs a problem that I just havent run into > yet? > > Thanks for anyones thoughts. > > Keith > > Article: 329578 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: Zen 9 S 367 BW switch arcing! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:06:08 GMT This happened to me with a Philco 37-670. I ground out the carboned area with a dremil and reinforced the gap and replaced the removed material with epoxy. You should be able to do it to. I removed the wafer and worked on it flat on the bench, used bright lights and a big magnifying glass. I also had left some soldered component on the switch. They did not interfere with the repair. I would think that soldering some temporary lead wire or stiff solid wire (14 or 16 ga romex Copper style) to the contacts around the repair would help keep the contacts alignment during the repair. Worked great. Paul. "Keith Park" wrote in message news:CmVAf.111720$ME5.28050@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Hi all, > > OK, here is one that Id like to find out if anyone else has dealt with. > > The middle wafer of the bandswitch as B+ on one side and ground on the > other, and its arcing between the two where one side is peened into the > phenolic wafer, about .1" gap. If I bring the set up slow its fine and it > works but if I just throw the switch it smokes, and when I cleaned the > bad spot it arced over at another point. It has the correct tubes, new > filters etc... is there something else Im missing that keeps the B+ from > coming up too fast OR are these wafer designs a problem that I just havent > run into yet? > > Thanks for anyones thoughts. > > Keith > > Article: 329579 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1137356641.440124.88170@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <11suah9q3s57cfc@news.supernews.com> <24KdnW4ZUJF0Lk7enZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@giganews.com> <1137966065.938736.275890@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: JVC & LEAR JET serviced home component 8track decks-Ebay Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:32:53 -0700 Message-ID: <43d44ed3$0$8290$6d56accd@news.srvinet.com> I've chewed on this guy and his ugly sister for all I know...go on. No, really at least 50 mph go on. Back to googleville and don't send postcards. wrote in message news:1137966065.938736.275890@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > > Ken Doyle wrote: > > "Buck Frobisher" wrote: > > > Well, THAT oughta fix HIS little red wagon! Humph. > > > > The idea is to let potential buyers know that this seller doesn't follow > > rules. > > I would think that anyone that sees his posts/threads here wouldn't buy a > > thing from him. > > > > Ken D. > > Be careful, Charlie Nudo (66fourdoor) has a habit of calling people > homes, employers and the employer of their spouses if they dare > challenge him. It's all archived on the 8 track collecting group. He > even reported me to Penn State campus security with some wild claim > that I hacked their servers, I'll bet that went well (snicker). The guy > is a nutcase. > Article: 329580 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: Subject: Re: Just lost my first vacuum tube... Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:36:01 GMT Hi! Something's not right even after I followed your instructions: The following addresses had delivery problems: Permanent Failure: 550 com...User_unknown Delivery last attempted at Mon, 23 Jan 2006 02:48:54 -0000 Or mail me using wct walshcomptech com Thank you. William Article: 329581 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1137356641.440124.88170@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <11suah9q3s57cfc@news.supernews.com> <24KdnW4ZUJF0Lk7enZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@giganews.com> <1137966065.938736.275890@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <43d44ed3$0$8290$6d56accd@news.srvinet.com> Subject: Re: JVC & LEAR JET serviced home component 8track decks-Ebay Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:37:34 -0700 Message-ID: <43d44fec$0$8282$6d56accd@news.srvinet.com> I'm sorry, that was suppose to be email. I have too much work to do to remember to move the IE buttons every time I work on this hulk. but I'll move it south of Cleveland now. "Steven Dinius" <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in message news:43d44ed3$0$8290$6d56accd@news.srvinet.com... > I've chewed on this guy and his ugly sister for all I know...go on. > > No, really at least 50 mph go on. > > Back to googleville and don't send postcards. > > wrote in message > news:1137966065.938736.275890@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > > > > Ken Doyle wrote: > > > "Buck Frobisher" wrote: > > > > Well, THAT oughta fix HIS little red wagon! Humph. > > > > > > The idea is to let potential buyers know that this seller doesn't follow > > > rules. > > > I would think that anyone that sees his posts/threads here wouldn't buy > a > > > thing from him. > > > > > > Ken D. > > > > Be careful, Charlie Nudo (66fourdoor) has a habit of calling people > > homes, employers and the employer of their spouses if they dare > > challenge him. It's all archived on the 8 track collecting group. He > > even reported me to Penn State campus security with some wild claim > > that I hacked their servers, I'll bet that went well (snicker). The guy > > is a nutcase. > > > > Article: 329582 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: Subject: Re: Finished my Snow White! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:58:24 GMT Hi! Now that's a well done reproduction! (Or at least I think so.) What radio was used as a base for the project? (I will be looking forward to reading a web page about the radio. When I saw your posting, I looked up the binaries immediately as things just don't hang around there for any length of time.) William Article: 329583 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: ball on a pole? Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:21:52 -0700 Message-ID: References: <8jOzf.38547$7S.22053@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <11t6bgo642n8k64@corp.supernews.com> <11t72nvdhch5cc6@corp.supernews.com> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 09:39:09 -0400, - exray - wrote: > - exray - wrote: >> William B Noble (don't reply to this address) wrote: >> >>> sooo, was this just "snake oil", or was there some beneficial >>> property to this speherical antenna? I can't see how it would be >>> better than just a short wire, but then again.... >> >> >> When properly mounted high on a rooftop (the mast is part of the >> configuration) one has a nice long feedline to serve as an antenna. The >> ball does nothing other than advertise to the neighbors that you have >> one and they don't. >> Remember, this was the era when they sold canisters of rocks for >> underground antennas too. Those are harder to find now :) >> Audiophools don't get first dibs on inventing this type of stuff. >> >> -Bill > > I've posted an original ad (Jan 1931 Radio News) of the Superball...and > the Red Arrow antennas. > > I spoke to soon...It seems that the ball assembly serves as a junction > point for the 4 wires that essentially serve as a top hat for the > antenna wire. The "handsome weather vane" does too. > > http://www.sparkbench.com/superball1.jpg Thanks one and all, especially for the ebay link and the ad. I learned something I didn't know before and I also know I didn't dream it. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 329584 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: PHONO: Can 45s be Un-Warped? Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 23:16:56 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 01:41:08 +0000, David Stinson wrote: > I have a set of 45s with Edward R. Murrow on them. > The heat in storage has warped them enough that they > aren't playable. Is there any way to unwarp them? > Thanks. A couple things to be aware of. Some records have water soluble ink on the label; use care when washing. The label area of a 45 is thicker than the groove area. If you flatten it between two sheets of glass, you can't get it flatter than the center. That may be good enough but you may need to use spacers with holes if you want to get it completely flat. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 329585 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: Subject: Re: Finished my Snow White! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:30:58 GMT "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:mmd8t1t1msa5kfok4e32c4p0emgqq1f8sm@4ax.com... > At last. Picture on the binaries. More to come on my web site when I > get time. > Excellent work !!! Article: 329586 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: FYI, Make your own chassis mount washers Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 08:08:40 -0400 Message-ID: <11t9hqaok1iiq8a@corp.supernews.com> References: <11t5qh9cs4n4p20@corp.supernews.com> Phil Nelson wrote: > I need to learn more about Bitumen of Judea, I actually tried that...or something like it. I used the black tar from Philco block capacitors! It has a very pleasing color when used as a stain but lacquer doesn't take well to it. You must use it sparingly and use a barrier coat of shellac or sealer with the Philco tar. -Bill Article: 329587 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "HiTech RedNeck" References: Subject: Re: FYI, Make your own chassis mount washers Message-ID: <8L4Bf.20488$F_3.10702@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:28:47 GMT "Ken" wrote in message news:yZxAf.1587$oG.595@dukeread09... > It is difficult for me to find the soft type mounting washers for tuning > caps and phono motors, mostly I find the hard rubber type. I found that > a silicone sealant will form the kind of washer I'm looking for, soft > and plyable. Start with a block of paraffin wax, drill a hole the > correct diameter and depth of the washer needed, (I fashioned a bit from > an old screw, but a forstner bit is better), shoot some Dap Silicone > Ultra in the hole, Or heat a metal washer of appropriate size and press into the wax. Then it will have the hole pre-made. Article: 329589 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "HiTech RedNeck" References: Subject: Re: FYI, Make your own chassis mount washers Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:30:19 GMT "Ken" wrote in message news:yZxAf.1587$oG.595@dukeread09... >Start with a block of paraffin wax, drill a hole the > correct diameter and depth of the washer needed Or heat a metal washer of appropriate size and press into the wax. Then it will have the hole pre-made. Article: 329590 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "HiTech RedNeck" References: <43D3B84F.7A6BB0A5@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: bead blasting chassis? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:39:00 GMT "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:43D3B84F.7A6BB0A5@earthlink.net... > I know a guy at one of the local flea markets with a machine that > removes the shells from the pecans he sells. Now, how do we get them > ground up? Blender? Article: 329591 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Crapp!! Missed it! Message-ID: <0y_yf.37125$7S.1142@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:39:24 GMT "Ron H" wrote in message news:rIYyf.177$VM5.15@fe17.lga... > > In my seemingly random searching, I found a MEISSNER 10-1199 unbuilt kit > that was sold at auction last June!! Still in the original unopened box! > Damm! I don't know what it went for, they wanted me to "logon" to find out > and I don't need to be on any more lists! > > > Day late, dollar short.... so to speak! > > Ron H. > > > Similar to this one I bought at the April 2005 Tom Harris auction? http://tinyurl.com/7bjv7 jim menning Article: 329592 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "HiTech RedNeck" References: <1S%Af.2154$Dk.1874@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: PHONO: Can 45s be Un-Warped? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:54:35 GMT "David Stinson" wrote in message news:1S%Af.2154$Dk.1874@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Thanks, everyone, for the help with this. > I'll report back on the results when I do it. > D.S. Be quite cautious about how much weight you initially put on the record, whatever method you use. Pressing too hard on a raised area can crack the record in that area. I tried to flatten some 10" vinyl LPs I found in my attic with the weight method, only to crack them all. If using the oven method, you might try topping the record initially with something lightweight, like a cookie sheet or cake pan. Just a guess. Article: 329593 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "HiTech RedNeck" References: <1S%Af.2154$Dk.1874@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: PHONO: Can 45s be Un-Warped? Message-ID: <0j5Bf.20495$F_3.6567@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:05:43 GMT "HiTech RedNeck" wrote in message news:Ra5Bf.20494$F_3.8767@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > > "David Stinson" wrote in message > news:1S%Af.2154$Dk.1874@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > > Thanks, everyone, for the help with this. > > I'll report back on the results when I do it. > > D.S. > > Be quite cautious about how much weight you initially put on the record, > whatever method you use. Pressing too hard on a raised area can crack the > record in that area. I tried to flatten some 10" vinyl LPs I found in my > attic with the weight method, only to crack them all. If using the oven > method, you might try topping the record initially with something > lightweight, like a cookie sheet or cake pan. Just a guess. ... which suggests another idea, incidentally. Put the record on a clean, flat kitchen counter, place a clean, flat bottomed cake pan on top, and pour hot tap water into the pan. Article: 329594 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "HiTech RedNeck" References: <1S%Af.2154$Dk.1874@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: PHONO: Can 45s be Un-Warped? Message-ID: <3q5Bf.20496$F_3.3214@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:16:50 GMT "HiTech RedNeck" wrote in message news:Ra5Bf.20494$F_3.8767@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > > "David Stinson" wrote in message > news:1S%Af.2154$Dk.1874@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > > Thanks, everyone, for the help with this. > > I'll report back on the results when I do it. > > D.S. > > Be quite cautious about how much weight you initially put on the record, > whatever method you use. Pressing too hard on a raised area can crack the > record in that area. I tried to flatten some 10" vinyl LPs I found in my > attic with the weight method, only to crack them all. If using the oven > method, you might try topping the record initially with something > lightweight, like a cookie sheet or cake pan. Just a guess. ... which suggests another idea, incidentally. Put the record on a clean, flat kitchen counter, place a clean, flat bottomed cake pan on top, and pour hot tap water into the pan. Article: 329595 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "effi" Subject: Re: Sometimes I Bid Just to Prove a Point Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:09:34 -0600 Message-ID: <11sp2gp2tqokg4b@corp.supernews.com> References: <11so1rt2fr7771d@corp.supernews.com> <43cc7cab$0$8291$6d56accd@news.srvinet.com> "Steven Dinius" <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in message news:43cc7cab$0$8291$6d56accd@news.srvinet.com... > "Hagstar" wrote in message > news:11so1rt2fr7771d@corp.supernews.com... >> I can't believe $22.66 didn't make the Reserve :) >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/Edison-Radio_W0QQitemZ6596264553 >> >> John H. > > Man, what a speaker! > you mean john h.? or the one in the radio? Article: 329596 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Audio Output Transformers Message-ID: <774ps1929nt8fq5eva1u3oimkv3sdcevb8@4ax.com> References: <1137472535.497863.302820@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:43:07 GMT Neil, I have a box of transformers somewhere, removed from old sets. This would be for a single 6F6 or similar tube? I might have one. I know I have an old Stromberg-Carlson chassis with a single-ended output transformer in it. I'm out on the jobsite for about 2 weeks yet, but if you haven't wound up with one by then, I could have a look. If I have one, it's yours for the cost of postage. Gordon Richmond (Trochu, Alberta) Article: 329597 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stein-Olav Lund Subject: Re: 6Q7 a crappy tube? Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:46:17 +0100 Message-ID: References: philo wrote: > "Keith Park" wrote in message > news:p3gyf.64114$XJ5.6453@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > >>I just replaced another noisy 6Q7... and when going though my baggie of >>them found many marked >>intermittant, noisy, pops etc... >> >>Where they a problem in general?? I have some which appear to be new, but their diodes are below min. on tester. Stein Article: 329598 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43CC92C8.D56AFD4C@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: JVC & LEAR JET serviced home component 8track decks-Ebay References: <1137356641.440124.88170@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1137357985.840715.325400@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7yCyf.354070$ki.31190@pd7tw2no> <43cb1def$0$8289$6d56accd@news.srvinet.com> <1137431946.232080.148450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <43cc4516$0$8287$6d56accd@news.srvinet.com> <43CC615A.B544BCCB@earthlink.net> <43cc6ea4$0$8273$6d56accd@news.srvinet.com> <43CC7376.E8D6C674@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:47:02 GMT Buck Frobisher wrote: > > Michael, you're feeding the trolls again. He really knows how to push your > buttons, too. I just wanted to see if he would actually answer the questions put before him. he didn't, so he won't hear anything else from me. Anyone who isn't honest enough to answer a direct question is a waste of time. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 329599 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Finished my Snow White! Message-ID: References: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:11:18 GMT That is a pretty little radio! Not being familiar with them, I half expected some kind of Disney-looking cutout profile of Snow White, with the radio behind it. This has more of a Black Forest cuckoo clock style to it, but really quite tasteful, IMHO. You did very well on this one. Congratulations. Gordon Richmond Article: 329600 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43D4F2BF.7A8C3FFB@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: bead blasting chassis? References: <43D3B84F.7A6BB0A5@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:14:39 GMT HiTech RedNeck wrote: > > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message > news:43D3B84F.7A6BB0A5@earthlink.net... > > > I know a guy at one of the local flea markets with a machine that > > removes the shells from the pecans he sells. Now, how do we get them > > ground up? > > Blender? My thoughts were to put them in an old canvas bag and drive my truck over it a couple times. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 329601 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: bead blasting chassis? Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:17:31 -0600 Message-ID: <13514-43D51DBB-2123@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <43D4F2BF.7A8C3FFB@earthlink.net> I have three big tall pecan trees in my yard.Someone mentioned,blender? I guess that would work ok to grind up the shells.If there is a place in your city that has equipment to shell pecans or walnuts,they might give you some shells for free. cuhulin Article: 329602 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Stone" Subject: Lafayette Radio - Who made their home stereo gear in the mid / late 1970's ? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:25:36 GMT I have a Lafayette LA-40 Amp and LT-40 AM/FM tuner. Think I purchased them in 1977 or 1978. Was wondering who made them for Lafayette. Looking for some repair parts. Left channel meter seems to be failing. Steve N2UBP Article: 329603 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Al Z." References: Subject: Re: Lafayette Radio - Who made their home stereo gear in the mid / late 1970's ? Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:16:21 -0500 Message-ID: <43d52c6c$0$3036$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> LRE equipment was made in Japan by several different companies. As far as replacement parts goes, the only source I know of are other LRE units. Hope this helps a little. "Steve Stone" wrote in message news:Ac9Bf.1560$wk5.837@news02.roc.ny... > I have a Lafayette LA-40 Amp and LT-40 AM/FM tuner. Think I purchased them > in 1977 or 1978. Was wondering who made them for Lafayette. Looking for some > repair parts. Left channel meter seems to be failing. > > Steve > N2UBP > > Article: 329604 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" Subject: Wanted: Photo of tuning knob RCA 4T-8A Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:35:13 -0500 If anyone has an RCA model 4T-8 Cathedral with an original tuning knob, I would surely like to see a close up photo! Thanks for any help. Dave Article: 329605 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <43d52c6c$0$3036$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> Subject: Re: Lafayette Radio - Who made their home stereo gear in the mid / late 1970's ? Message-ID: <%nbBf.1322$1n4.1094@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:54:19 GMT If I recall, didn't LRE come under fire for making cassette decks that required LRE cassettes? They had slightly different dimensions, and a Philips cassette wouldn't fit. I've had mixed feelings about those guys. They did have some proprietary stuff, but they also were, as a rule, better quality -- and a far better place to buy parts -- than the competitor, Radio Shack. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Al Z." wrote in message news:43d52c6c$0$3036$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com... > LRE equipment was made in Japan by several different companies. > As far as replacement parts goes, the only source I know of are other LRE > units. > Hope this helps a little. > > > "Steve Stone" wrote in message > news:Ac9Bf.1560$wk5.837@news02.roc.ny... >> I have a Lafayette LA-40 Amp and LT-40 AM/FM tuner. Think I purchased >> them >> in 1977 or 1978. Was wondering who made them for Lafayette. Looking for > some >> repair parts. Left channel meter seems to be failing. >> >> Steve >> N2UBP >> >> > > Article: 329606 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: ball on a pole? Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:07:59 -0600 Message-ID: <19278-43D545AF-554@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: I remember seeing ads in old magazines many years ago about anti-corona balls.Actually,I do own a big heavy copper hollow ball sphere that I bought at a scrap metal yard years and years ago.It is about six inches diameter, (I never actually measured it though) I think it was originally a float ball that probally was used in a cattle watering tank like some people have out in the country for their cattle watering tanks. cuhulin Article: 329607 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: PRECISION-VACUUM TUBE-TESTER References: <1138035344.954896.291440@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1138039553.759101.208220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <3IbBf.1931$Ou1.1450@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:15:43 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > I also have an old Precision tester. I don't recall the model -- 512 maybe? > I believe it is an emissions tester, but it's good in that it will test the > older four and five pin types that the 747 forgot about. Speaking of which... is there an earlier "mate" to the Hickock 6000A that handles the earlier tubes? Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329608 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Kennedy Coronet #42 for only $60 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:38:21 +0100 Message-ID: <40d38e043e550d9606140b4a1beb0235@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6599743157 And I won it!! It was only listed for an hour; I just caught it by chance and did the Buy-it-now for $60! Were you guys sleeping? I guess spotting this is one benefit of being retired/ disabled and having plenty of time on my hands. Normally I win pretty trashy stuff. -Pete Article: 329609 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <40d38e043e550d9606140b4a1beb0235@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Subject: Re: Kennedy Coronet #42 for only $60 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:12:58 -0500 "Pete_O" wrote in message news:40d38e043e550d9606140b4a1beb0235@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6599743157 > > And I won it!! It was only listed for an hour; I just caught it by chance > and did the Buy-it-now for $60! Were you guys sleeping? I guess spotting > this is one benefit of being retired/ disabled and having plenty of time > on my hands. Normally I win pretty trashy stuff. -Pete > Make sure the seller protects those globe tubes when he ships!!!!!! Good deal, congrats. Pete Article: 329610 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: 1949 Dodge Pickup Truck,Remote Control Radio in dashboard Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:11:02 -0600 Message-ID: <20330-43D55476-2353@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> www.vintagepowerwagons.com Click on where it says,Vehicles. cuhulin Article: 329611 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Kennedy Coronet #42 for only $60 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:47:29 -0400 Message-ID: <11tan81llf8o0d2@corp.supernews.com> References: <40d38e043e550d9606140b4a1beb0235@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Pete_O wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6599743157 > > And I won it!! It was only listed for an hour; I just caught it by chance > and did the Buy-it-now for $60! Were you guys sleeping? I guess spotting > this is one benefit of being retired/ disabled and having plenty of time > on my hands. Normally I win pretty trashy stuff. -Pete > Ya done good, Pete O. -Bill Article: 329612 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FA: Decent Detrola-made Truetone(not mine) From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:21:06 GMT In article , moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says... > > >these Detrola- made table sets are pretty good... especially those who like >the "stationized dials" love them. > >http://cgi.ebay.com/Truetone-Radio_W0QQitemZ6599239533QQcategoryZ7275QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem > >some have the motorized tuning, I think this version does not. Still, they >are good sounding (Rola speakers!) and good reception. > >Mark Oppat > > > that is the later version ... no eye tube... series string toobes... cabinet is same other than no eye tube hole to the D-724 ... John Article: 329613 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 1949 Dodge Pickup Truck,Remote Control Radio in dashboard From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <20330-43D55476-2353@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:13:23 GMT In article <20330-43D55476-2353@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net>, cuhulin@webtv.net says... > > >www.vintagepowerwagons.com >Click on where it says,Vehicles. >cuhulin > I have a restoration on one of those in the works now... customers radio... think his is from a car rather than a truck.... John Article: 329614 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: PRECISION-VACUUM TUBE-TESTER From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <1138035344.954896.291440@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1138039553.759101.208220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <3IbBf.1931$Ou1.1450@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:32:23 GMT In article <3IbBf.1931$Ou1.1450@tornado.socal.rr.com>, jangus@socal.rr.com says... > > > >Speaking of which... is there an earlier "mate" to the Hickock >6000A that handles the earlier tubes? > >Jeff > Yup Sure is.... Hickok 6000 is early toobes and the A version is later tubes... both have the plug in island.... before you ask... the 6000A has a 12 pin plug in base on it.... and the 6000 has an 11 pin plug... both plugs are the octal style... the 11 being like the heathkit and collins power supply plugs... now what do I have?... the best of both worlds.... got lucky about a year ago ... picked up a really really nice 6000a hickok... and before I got it.. I won an auction from fleabay for a hosed up parts unit.... early 6000 to get the early island from! ... took a little whining and begging in the right spot to find a 12 pin octal plug to replace the 11 one with... but today I have a 6000A hickok with two islands... one early and one late.... so one tester tests all tubes.... of course I installed the rollchart >from the early one as that is what I use it most for!... A couple of the others on the list were also happy as the junker supplied them with parts to fix up their Hickoks as well... John k9uwa / w4 snowbird Article: 329615 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: PRECISION-VACUUM TUBE-TESTER References: <1138035344.954896.291440@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1138039553.759101.208220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <3IbBf.1931$Ou1.1450@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 00:57:54 GMT The 800A will test all tubes from old 4 pin to the latest compactrons. If you don't care about compactrons then the 800 will test from the old 4 pin to the latest 9 pin min. Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > > Gary Tayman wrote: > >> I also have an old Precision tester. I don't recall the model -- 512 >> maybe? I believe it is an emissions tester, but it's good in that it >> will test the older four and five pin types that the 747 forgot about. > > > Speaking of which... is there an earlier "mate" to the Hickock > 6000A that handles the earlier tubes? > > Jeff > > Article: 329616 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: Subject: Re: Zen 9 S 367 BW switch arcing! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 01:19:14 GMT Thanks everyone! I just gotta get pickey tonight! and Yes, I did fire it up still wet with the Radio shack tuner cleaner! What contact cleaner do you reccomend? Thanks, Keith "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:t8adnQOJZ8pIz0neRVn-gQ@comcast.com... > yup, once it arcs, its hard to stop.. gotta pick out all the carbon... > same > with tube sockets. Most of the time this is caused by sloppy cleaning > (using the wrong cleaner ) and running the set with a wet switch after > cleaning. But, who knows. It happens. Usually you can dig it out and > fill with epoxy. > > Mark Oppat Article: 329617 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: Lafayette Radio - Who made their home stereo gear in the mid References: <43d52c6c$0$3036$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> <%nbBf.1322$1n4.1094@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:49:38 -0500 I still have my Criterion 2002 Lafayette speakers I bought new in November 1977 with 12" woofer, 1 midrange and 2 tweeters. They were one hell of a good set of speakers for the price. When they discontinued them I bought a 2nd pair used, still have them too... Sal Brisindi Article: 329618 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43D5950C.88A66FFB@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Kennedy Coronet #42 for only $60 References: <40d38e043e550d9606140b4a1beb0235@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 02:47:10 GMT Phil Nelson wrote: > > Sweet! (Who lists a one-hour auction . . . was that a typo?) Read it agin. He said that it had only been listed for an hour when he used the "Buy it now", which made it into a one hour auction. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 329619 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: PRECISION-VACUUM TUBE-TESTER References: <1138035344.954896.291440@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1138039553.759101.208220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <3IbBf.1931$Ou1.1450@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <_UgBf.1955$Ou1.1890@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 03:10:50 GMT John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird wrote: > Yup Sure is.... Hickok 6000 is early toobes and the A version is > later tubes... both have the plug in island.... before you ask... Cool, the search is on then for a 6000 Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329620 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark S" References: <43d52c6c$0$3036$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> <%nbBf.1322$1n4.1094@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Lafayette Radio - Who made their home stereo gear in the mid / late 1970's ? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 03:17:43 GMT I have some LRE stuff from around 1970. The Lafayette catalog along with Allied and Burstein Applebee were my wishbooks. The LRE store nearby was pretty damn good, especially for stereo gear. I used to watch the LRE stock, they were listed on the American Exchange. To the replacement parts question, I was under the impression that the Japanese manufacturer was the same as that of Kenwood gear. Mark S "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:%nbBf.1322$1n4.1094@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > If I recall, didn't LRE come under fire for making cassette decks that > required LRE cassettes? They had slightly different dimensions, and a > Philips cassette wouldn't fit. > > I've had mixed feelings about those guys. They did have some proprietary > stuff, but they also were, as a rule, better quality -- and a far better > place to buy parts -- than the competitor, Radio Shack. > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > "Al Z." wrote in message > news:43d52c6c$0$3036$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com... >> LRE equipment was made in Japan by several different companies. >> As far as replacement parts goes, the only source I know of are other LRE >> units. >> Hope this helps a little. >> >> >> "Steve Stone" wrote in message >> news:Ac9Bf.1560$wk5.837@news02.roc.ny... >>> I have a Lafayette LA-40 Amp and LT-40 AM/FM tuner. Think I purchased >>> them >>> in 1977 or 1978. Was wondering who made them for Lafayette. Looking for >> some >>> repair parts. Left channel meter seems to be failing. >>> >>> Steve >>> N2UBP >>> >>> >> >> > > Article: 329621 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "HiTech RedNeck" References: <1S%Af.2154$Dk.1874@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: PHONO: Can 45s be Un-Warped? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 03:27:19 GMT "HiTech RedNeck" wrote in message news:Ra5Bf.20494$F_3.8767@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > > "David Stinson" wrote in message > news:1S%Af.2154$Dk.1874@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > > Thanks, everyone, for the help with this. > > I'll report back on the results when I do it. > > D.S. > > Be quite cautious about how much weight you initially put on the record, > whatever method you use. Pressing too hard on a raised area can crack the > record in that area. I tried to flatten some 10" vinyl LPs I found in my > attic with the weight method, only to crack them all. If using the oven > method, you might try topping the record initially with something > lightweight, like a cookie sheet or cake pan. Just a guess. ... which suggests another idea, incidentally. Put the record on a clean, flat kitchen counter, place a clean, flat bottomed cake pan on top, and pour hot tap water into the pan. Article: 329622 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "HiTech RedNeck" References: <1R3Af.13817$Jd.11318@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> <5e7043337e8f240d2f87be6fe97412e3@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Subject: Re: bead blasting chassis? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 03:27:19 GMT "Pete_O" wrote in message news:5e7043337e8f240d2f87be6fe97412e3@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com... > pressurized ZEP/rinse is EXACTLY what HP used for instrument service- I > did it hundreds of times there; remove the meters and plug the xfmrs and > spray! What variety of ZEP? Article: 329623 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" Subject: Don't forget about Saturday... Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 04:24:39 GMT The CC-AWA Winter Swap Meet is almost here. This coming Saturday January 28th at Caughman Road Park in Columbia SC. Things get started between 7 & 8 am and will be wrapped up by 12 noon. Admission is FREE, dealer setup is only $5. You can find lots of details and driving directions here; http://cc_awa.homestead.com/schedule.html http://cc_awa.homestead.com/Winter.html Do yourself a favor, get up and get there early, if you wait till 10:30 to show up all you're going to see is folks standing around talking about all the goodies they bought early in the morning. Pack the car full of good stuff and come see us in Columbia. Ron Article: 329624 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Lafayette Radio - Who made their home stereo gear in the mid / late 1970's ? Message-ID: <08bbt1hqcf9fiktndfn2ocjkv6cgo6lvmm@4ax.com> References: <43d52c6c$0$3036$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> <%nbBf.1322$1n4.1094@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 04:38:39 GMT I can't speak to the question of the existence of a special LRE cassette format, but I can assure you that I had a Sanyo compact cassette recorder in the 1960s which used a slightly different package than the Phillips style which owns the market now. I purchased it new at a Woodwards department store in Vancouver, B.C. I think it might have been a close-out; it's been a long time. But I do distinctly remember that the difference between the Sanyo cassette and the standard cassette was in the location of the fixed studs which locate the cassette in the deck. I was able to modify the Sanyo unit to play the standard cassettes. So there was in fact a rival cassette format out there. Perhaps Sanyo didn't want to pay Phillips licensing? At any rate, it wasn't around long, and I don't think it ever hit the pre-recorded cassette market. Gordon Richmond Article: 329625 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Lafayette Radio - Who made their home stereo gear in the mid Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 00:43:07 -0400 Message-ID: <11tbc2rgiddg808@corp.supernews.com> References: <43d52c6c$0$3036$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> <%nbBf.1322$1n4.1094@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Mark S wrote: > question, I was under the impression that the Japanese manufacturer was the > same as that of Kenwood gear. > Mark S That would be Trio Electronics but Lafayette used other manufacturers as well. -Bill Article: 329626 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Lafayette Radio - Who made their home stereo gear in the mid / Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:30:46 -0700 Message-ID: <27717-43D5AD76-2905@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: <1138074659.921117.95850@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Lafayette sure brings a big following when mentioned . There was one in Portland Oregon we went to several times . I was to young to get much out of it .. i think my brother was the one needing parts . I remember him looking for tubes anyway . I remember piles and piles of empty speaker boxes and big vast tables full of hundreds of bare speakers . There were speaker wires hanging from the ceiling over the table so you could hear the speakers . I remember doing that . I also remember rows of glass cases where the help stood . I cant remember what was in those .. probably the usuall .. and no doubt some nice transistor radios all new in box . They must have been expensive because i never left there with any . Only a few short years ago i remember seeing the store in that area though it moved and was suprized to see the name on the building . It was pretty much a Radio Shack clone by then but more run down . Article: 329627 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43D5B4F3.1E22A2C@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Lafayette Radio - Who made their home stereo gear in the mid / late References: <43d52c6c$0$3036$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> <%nbBf.1322$1n4.1094@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 05:03:19 GMT Mark Oppat wrote: > > My first electronics job was with LRE, in 1973-74 while in high school. > They went downhill fast, along with all other stereo equipment sellers, in > the late 70's, and the stores in the SE Michigan area dwindled from 12 in > 1973 to nothing by 1984 IIRC. In 1973 there were 4 stereo retailers within > 2 miles on Plymouth Rd in Livonia, Mi. Tech HiFi, Stereoland, Lafayette, > and Highland Appliance. The last one killed the first three, then Highland > was finally killed by Best Buy and ABC Appliance. > There were no "special LRE cassette decks". An urban myth as far as I know. > Every maker wanted to be totally compatable with any existing system, to > not be was death. > We had some electronics parts, I sold a lot of them, but Norwest > Electronics, who I moved over to later, had the REAL stock of stuff! > > Every town of good size had these "Electronic parts distributors" who were > mostly for the guys in the trade, that is, repair shops. They were like a > Mouser catalog in a store, and, they are all gone now, except for smaller > outfits like me who bought all the stuff that pertains to antique radio > repair. > > Mark Oppat My last order to Lafayette included 10, 12" * 18" blank photo sensitive single sided PC boards. It took over a month to get the package in the mail. When it finally arrived it was in a 6" * 6" * 6" box, and the PC boards never arrived. They had marked the order as shipped complete, and after repeated letters they refused to send me my PC boards, so when they went out of business a few years later I just laughed at them and thought "Good riddance!". They had screwed me out of almost $100 that I had earned mowing yards for $3 to $5 each, so I was glad to see them get theirs. That was the only time I ever had a problem with any parts order through the US mail. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 329628 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <40d38e043e550d9606140b4a1beb0235@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Subject: Re: Kennedy Coronet #42 for only $60 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:55:03 -0500 "Pete_O" wrote in message news:40d38e043e550d9606140b4a1beb0235@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6599743157 > > And I won it!! It was only listed for an hour; I just caught it by chance > and did the Buy-it-now for $60! Were you guys sleeping? I guess spotting > this is one benefit of being retired/ disabled and having plenty of time > on my hands. Normally I win pretty trashy stuff. -Pete Nice scoop, Pete. Be sure to put up some better pictures on the binaries when you get it. I'd love to see a better close-up of that bezel. Frank Article: 329629 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: A-K model 84 cabinet Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:33:41 +0100 Message-ID: <0aa33c25dffab5de262a08f89087fd93@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: <11snjfvd08t7e8f@corp.supernews.com> Someone decided to remodel the original all that was left was the front panel and speaker grill **I haven't got the cabinet but need the front panel and grille. Someone did a patchwork re-veneering on mine which makes it embarrassing to show. Let me know if you want to rid yourself of your front panel. -Pete O Article: 329630 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: KA6UUP Subject: FA Hallicrafters HT-1E and HT-2A Village Radios Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:07:17 GMT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5858482793 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5858492599 Thanks, Chuck Article: 329631 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43D62754.67E4EE4E@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Lafayette Radio - Who made their home stereo gear in the mid / late References: <43d52c6c$0$3036$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> <%nbBf.1322$1n4.1094@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <43D5B4F3.1E22A2C@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:11:18 GMT Omer Suleimanagich wrote: > > Here in Los Angeles, during the 70's, CB'er's called Lafayette, "Laughing > Idiot". Many of their employees just didn't get it when approached about a > specific question or need. > > I guess their communication equipment at the time along with many of their > project kits didn't quite cut the mustard! > > Oh well! > > Omer Where I grew up in SW Ohio they were called "Laughatit" I talked my dad into getting the license when i was in high school so I could talk to a bunch of my friends, and I picked up a used Comstat 23 radio and repaired it to get on the air. Before long I was fixing CB radios for a lot of other people, so right after I graduated from high school I opened a repair shop. I took the jobs the local shops didn't want: Cb radios, industrial equipment, R-R videotape, commercial sound systems, and I even troubleshot and repaired a prototype for a guy who flew to the US to show it to a prospective customer. Then I was drafted and had to close my business. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 329632 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: FA Hallicrafters HT-1E and HT-2A Village Radios References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:27:15 GMT Nice radios Chuck... Jeff KA6UUP wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5858482793 > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5858492599 > > Thanks, > Chuck -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329633 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" Subject: Great radio find (other stuff too) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:36:46 GMT A military collector's dream come true: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16620111&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=a-nazi-piece-of-history--name_page.html -- Mike Schultz Article: 329634 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" Subject: Don't forget about Sunday either... Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:30:06 GMT This Sunday, January 29, 2006, is the Wisconsin Antique Radio Club winter swap. We are holding this again at the Landmark 1850 Inn, 5917 S Howell St., Milwaukee. Scheduled hours are 8-12, but those "in the know" are usually there about an hour early. The meet often wraps up a bit early also. jim menning Map: http://tinyurl.com/de3a3 jim menning Article: 329635 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Lafayette Radio - Who made their home stereo gear in the mid Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:18:54 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1138074659.921117.95850@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <27717-43D5AD76-2905@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> Ken G. wrote: > Lafayette sure brings a big following when mentioned . There was one in > Portland Oregon we went to several times . I was to young to get much > out of it .. i think my brother was the one needing parts . I remember > him looking for tubes anyway . Right across the street from Sears.....remember it well. The last gasp of old-school giant electronic goodie stores. > > I remember piles and piles of empty speaker boxes and big vast tables > full of hundreds of bare speakers . > There were speaker wires hanging from the ceiling over the table so you > could hear the speakers . I remember doing that . > I also remember rows of glass cases where the help stood . I cant > remember what was in those .. probably the usuall .. and no doubt some > nice transistor radios all new in box . They must have been expensive > because i never left there with any . > Only a few short years ago i remember seeing the store in that area > though it moved and was suprized to see the name on the building . It > was pretty much a Radio Shack clone by then but more run down . > Yeah, they moved the store to a much smaller location on Burnside a quarter mile or so down the street. I think the original building was demo'ed to make way for construction related to the convention center and/or Rose Garden. I was quite astonished to walk into the 'new' store and still see some 1970's-era NOS parts from the original store on pegboards. It was like having a piece of my past handed back to me. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 329636 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: Great radio find (other stuff too) References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:54:00 GMT Mike Schultz wrote: > A military collector's dream come true: > > http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16620111&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=a-nazi-piece-of-history--name_page.html > I hope to God he's taken its historic significance seriously, and not just done the "tomb robber" deal on it. The first people to move anything in there other than clearing the overgrowth and animal trash should have been archeologists. I will never forgive my uncle, who owned a small ranch adjacent to the Goliad mission in Texas. He found the mouth of a completely undocumented tunnel that went from the bank of the nearby river toward the mission/fortress. While I never saw the tunnel, he showed me some "old trash we found in there" which included the remains of an oil lantern and of a keg of square nails. He said they never went more than 50 feet in. Rather than calling the University of Texas, which I begged him to do, he took his bulldozer and buried the mouth of the tunnel. "I don't need people messing around here over something like that," was his reasoning. It was 14 years ago and it still... I don't know how to describe the emotion; a mix of anger, disbelief and sadness. I never spoke to him again. I've sent emails a few times to Texas universities, but I guess they discount it because I never received a reply. He's dead now and he took the location of the tunnel with him. D.S. Article: 329637 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <43d52c6c$0$3036$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> <%nbBf.1322$1n4.1094@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <43D5B4F3.1E22A2C@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Lafayette Radio - Who made their home stereo gear in the mid / late 1970's ? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:07:09 GMT Actually, I think this is one department where Radio Shack was the better of the two, and for awhile they really shined -- CB radios. I never owned a Realistic CB, although they had an extensive line. I did however use their wiring, antennas, and other hardware. They had an antenna array called "Twin Trunkers" which had center loading and mounted on the lip of either side of the trunk. I put this on my 76 Malibu along with a Midland 23 channel. This was in the DC area -- on single sideband I could go from Arlington to Andrews AFB with crystal-clear signal, consistently, and was the envy of the sidebanders in the area. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Omer Suleimanagich" wrote in message news:M7nBf.2678$Dk.470@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Here in Los Angeles, during the 70's, CB'er's called Lafayette, "Laughing > Idiot". Many of their employees just didn't get it when approached about > a specific question or need. > > I guess their communication equipment at the time along with many of their > project kits didn't quite cut the mustard! > > Oh well! > > Omer > > > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message > news:43D5B4F3.1E22A2C@earthlink.net... >> Mark Oppat wrote: >>> >>> My first electronics job was with LRE, in 1973-74 while in high school. >>> They went downhill fast, along with all other stereo equipment sellers, >>> in >>> the late 70's, and the stores in the SE Michigan area dwindled from 12 >>> in >>> 1973 to nothing by 1984 IIRC. In 1973 there were 4 stereo retailers >>> within >>> 2 miles on Plymouth Rd in Livonia, Mi. Tech HiFi, Stereoland, >>> Lafayette, >>> and Highland Appliance. The last one killed the first three, then >>> Highland >>> was finally killed by Best Buy and ABC Appliance. >>> There were no "special LRE cassette decks". An urban myth as far as I >>> know. >>> Every maker wanted to be totally compatable with any existing system, >>> to >>> not be was death. >>> We had some electronics parts, I sold a lot of them, but Norwest >>> Electronics, who I moved over to later, had the REAL stock of stuff! >>> >>> Every town of good size had these "Electronic parts distributors" who >>> were >>> mostly for the guys in the trade, that is, repair shops. They were like >>> a >>> Mouser catalog in a store, and, they are all gone now, except for >>> smaller >>> outfits like me who bought all the stuff that pertains to antique radio >>> repair. >>> >>> Mark Oppat >> >> >> My last order to Lafayette included 10, 12" * 18" blank photo >> sensitive single sided PC boards. It took over a month to get the >> package in the mail. When it finally arrived it was in a 6" * 6" * 6" >> box, and the PC boards never arrived. They had marked the order as >> shipped complete, and after repeated letters they refused to send me my >> PC boards, so when they went out of business a few years later I just >> laughed at them and thought "Good riddance!". They had screwed me out >> of almost $100 that I had earned mowing yards for $3 to $5 each, so I >> was glad to see them get theirs. That was the only time I ever had a >> problem with any parts order through the US mail. >> >> >> -- >> Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to >> prove it. >> Member of DAV #85. >> >> Michael A. Terrell >> Central Florida > > Article: 329638 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43D6447A.A3EA1121@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: How do you mount an underdash? References: <0SqBf.5361$Hd4.1220@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:15:41 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > > Here's one that really has me scratching my head: > > Recently someone asked me if I had a radio for his 1940 GMC truck. Of > course there were no factory radios, but he's looking for a period > aftermarket. I dug through my boneyard and found two -- a Philco > Transitone, and an Airline. But as I looked at both of these radios, I > wondered how in the devil you're supposed to mount these! > > These radios obviously were designed to mount under the dash. However they > both leave questions as to how to fasten them in. In the case of the > Philco, there are two mounting ears in front -- with about a 1 inch lip that > appears to fit around a corner. If the mounting bracket is in front, there > should be a way to hold it up in the back -- but there isn't anything. > There is one stud and nut mounted in the center of the bottom (the speaker > is on the side). In the case of the Airline, the only mount it has at all > is a big long stud that sticks out the rear, like a rat's tail! Nothing > else. > > Looking through the early Sams AR books, I see several similar radios -- in > fact Automatic has one that appears to be the same as the Airline. Many of > these radios also seem to lack any means of fastening them in! What do you > do -- lay them on the floor? Or wait till super glue is invented so you can > glue it in? If anyone has a clue, I'm interested in hearing it. > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com There were mounting kits of hardware and brackets for different years and models of vehicles, just like the later years for custom in dash mounting of third party radios. A shop I worked for in the early '70s still had piles of the kits in stock, because it was about the only place in the county that would install a car or truck radio. He even had some of the remote heads with the flexible drive cables for the firewall mounted radios. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 329639 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Marshall 4140 Amp question Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:44:04 -0400 Message-ID: <11sth5vhuvc5c0b@corp.supernews.com> References: <1137598755.585052.215500@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137617003.183770.95170@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> n cook wrote: > > I assume DCR is DC resistance of that matching transformer. > Mine was measuring 14 and 15.5 ohms which seemed a > bit unbalanced but no worse than this example > > One side of center will have more DC resistance because more wire is required for the same number of windings. GL, Bill Article: 329640 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Great radio find (other stuff too) Message-ID: References: Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:49:56 GMT David, I guess you know that either ground-penetrating radar or even a simple hammer seismic survey might easily locate that buried tunnel? That's a project well within the scope of undergraduate students. Gordon Richmond Article: 329641 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: Great radio find (other stuff too) References: Message-ID: <6tsBf.9392$C%3.2968@bignews2.bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:22:04 -0600 Gordon Richmond wrote: > David, I guess you know that either ground-penetrating radar or even a > simple hammer seismic survey might easily locate that buried tunnel? > > That's a project well within the scope of undergraduate students. > > Gordon Richmond > OTOH, at least he didn't loot the tunnel. It's still there for the next archaeologist to find...someday. Article: 329642 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: How do you mount an underdash? Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:54:10 -0600 Message-ID: <12635-43D65BB2-184@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <1138120341.171597.75050@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Back in those years,radios were optional accessories,so were heaters to be ordered by whomever bought the vehicles and wanted whatever accessories installed at the factory or dealership.(sometimes windshield wipers and cigarette lighters were optional accessories too in earlier years,my 1914 T Model Ford car has an optional accessory hand operated windhield wiper and also a speedometer/odometer) Usually there were removable panels on the dashboards of cars and trucks for radios to be installed in the dashboards.I have seen a many of them before,years ago.It shouldn't be difficult to make homemade metal straps from scrap metal to install an underdashboard radio. cuhulin Article: 329643 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: huge lot 78rpm records-Ebay References: <1137507930.021259.181480@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <80czf.255512$2k.141074@pd7tw1no> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:59:00 GMT Is it really that difficult to put FA: at the beginning of your subject line? Three extra characters? the MAGNATE wrote: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZ66fourdoor > -- Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Article: 329644 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: <1137472535.497863.302820@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Audio Output Transformers Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:36:23 GMT nesesu wrote: > Upon checking the speaker for the Zenith 7S657 I am restoring, I found > that the primary of the output transformer is open circuit. Look at eBay items: 7383067479 Single Ended 7383074396 Push Pull i bought some, also including shipping cost to Italy they were still cheap. I found them working well in all the radios i had to repair the output. Sizes are also good for small chassis, A++ -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 329645 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Tiny Admiral Found Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:09:51 -0700 Message-ID: <8640-43CD5D1F-1417@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> References: I posted the one i found years ago & no interest . Its exactly like yours accept bakelite painted off white with a green speaker grille . good sounding & working . I took the grille off mine to clean better and noticed `admiral` stampped into the bakelite behind the grille . This one has no screws in the grille as in Radiola guys radio . I think those were added . I also have the Silvertone 6402 brown mini 4 tuber . This one works no better than a crystal set . Bigger but not much , just bought an RCA Victor `lil nipper` brown bakelite , airplane like dial . good radio . Article: 329646 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Modern batteries in Standard Micronic Rubys From: "Haggis" telus.net> References: <1137460507.218841.295000@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2LqdnYEiJfJkf1HenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com> <9pudnRMUH7WmtFPeRVn-sw@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:24:28 GMT On 18-Jan-2006, "William Sommerwerck" wrote: >snip> correct one for $3.00. OK, it was a Maxwell. (((You mean Maxell. That's a major brand (Hitachi, I think). Remember Maxell cassette tapes?))) Forgive the 'typo' - I was probably thinking of that "Get Smart" guy who used to be on TV :-). >snip> A thought - have you thought of using NiMH cells? >snip> (((A NiMH equivalent of a 640? Really?))) As I mentioned, >snip> I'll know better when my recently acquired Micronic arrives >snip> I've come up with some strange cells by disassembling cordless 'phone batteries. Who knows? Cheers! Haggis. Article: 329647 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Transformer Question References: <1137604884.826500.38320@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:42:43 GMT nesesu wrote: > Jeff, you are quite correct with regard to hand stacked cores\ By the way, if you're interested in the "black magic" behind transformer design, locate a copy of _Handbook of Transformer Design & Applications_ by Flanagan. McGraw Hill publishing. Bring your slide rule. ;-) Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329648 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: RCA Tombstones - what's with the eye screws? Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:13:33 +0100 Message-ID: <0d93ee5a1e6ae91df674cebac13c0128@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: eye screws on the inside of the cabinet, toward the front, ** My 6T2 doesn't have them, just upholstery tacks where someone had added a homebrew antenna. I've had several radios with screw eyes and they have always added by owners who wound loop antennas through them. -Pete Article: 329649 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Recent Visit from our Parisian Friend Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:28:56 -0600 Message-ID: <27100-43CE7AD8-1460@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <1137601829.726967.133770@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> There are some great pictures there. cuhulin Article: 329650 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: How do you mount an underdash? Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:46:41 -0600 Message-ID: <12633-43D66801-2427@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <1138123289.175298.189940@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> An old buddy of mine,many years ago bought a 1955 Ford car. (that was back in the late 1950's) He said he slapped the dashboard and the radio fell out.About ten years ago,he said a guy he knows bought a new Dodge pickup truck and the dashboard fell off.My 1978 Dodge van that I bought in 1990 didn't have a radio in the van (but there was a place in the dashboard to mount an indashboard radio) and there wasen't anyplace on the outside of the van to mount an antenna.I went to a K-Mart store and I bought an el cheapo Krayco radio for my van,I got my electric drill with a big drill bit and I drilled a hole for the antenna mount. cuhulin Article: 329651 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: Re: Marshall 4140 Amp question Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:40:45 -0000 Message-ID: References: <1137598755.585052.215500@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137617003.183770.95170@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote in message news:1137617003.183770.95170@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > My thoughts are that a guitar amp which spends most of its time driven > to distortion will have transformers able to take considerable abuse > without failure. So, I expect it to be much lower than an audio amp > (which I will check anyway). > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > I found this in the archives, putting matching transformer henries ohms as keywords in google usenet, on a guitar group "Primary winding, by direct meter measurement with a Fluke 8600-A: DCR Blue side to center tap = 44.91 ohms DCR Brown side to center tap = 51.03 ohms " I assume DCR is DC resistance of that matching transformer. Mine was measuring 14 and 15.5 ohms which seemed a bit unbalanced but no worse than this example Article: 329652 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Slightly OT -- Antenna Rotator controls References: <1137600261.939346.71160@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:20:44 GMT Terry S wrote: > I came into a box of antenna rotator parts. I tossed much of it, but I > hung on to about 3 or 4 of the control boxes. Nice little bakelite or > plastic boxes with a control on the front. Some might have a meter, > others might have another sort of indicator. Sounds like some of the older CDR antenna rotor controls. With a meter, it's probably this one. http://www.eham.net/data/classifieds/images/156650.jpg One of the original Ham-M series rotor controls. With what looks like a pointer and lots of detents, is the original step indexing positional indicator type rotors. (Cheaper, for use with light weight antennas and TV stuff.) http://www.comodo.nl/comodo/upload/cm1002080.jpg The later models were flat and more rectangular and had a longe clear plastic pointer/position indicator. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329653 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1137507930.021259.181480@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: huge lot 78rpm records-Ebay Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:35:00 GMT "the MAGNATE" wrote in message news:1137507930.021259.181480@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZ66fourdoor > Are you still in the Scranton area? If so - are your items available for local pickup? -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery/Antique_radios and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 329654 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: Subject: Re: Old Eaton's cat. Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:28:35 GMT Hi! > Eaton's was a family-owned mainstay > department store in Canada for decades, and sold by mail as well as in huge > stores. And for those interested in a little Eaton's history and an "unauthorized tour"... http://uem.minimanga.com/occupied/eatons/ (No affiliation...just something I stumbled across one day.) William Article: 329655 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: REMOVEtransistor@THISkc.rr.com (Mister Transistor) Subject: TRS-80 Dancing Demon (OT) Message-ID: <43cdf091.57558455@news-server.kc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:42:59 GMT Well this is off topic but so very cool http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8751797685 Check out the Dancing Demon movie link in the auction! Brings back memories! No floppy disk drive for storage on that bad boy..just 110 baud cassette tape! Article: 329656 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: Re: Dual Turntables Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:17:14 -0800 Message-ID: References: in my opinion, the 1019 was one of the best (if not the best) changer made. On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:05:01 -0500, "Gary" wrote: >I have two Dual TT's. One is a 1009 and the other is a 1019. The 1019's arm >is bent from my son stepping on it trying to reach the shelf the closet. My >question is: Are these TT's worth keeping? I will probably have to get new >cartridges, but I have hundreds of records that I haven't heard in years and >would like to. Both TT's were purchased between 1968 to 1970. > >Gary >extraclass@bellsouth.net Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com Article: 329657 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1137460507.218841.295000@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2LqdnYEiJfJkf1HenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Modern batteries in Standard Micronic Rubys Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:40:24 -0800 Message-ID: <9pudnRMUH7WmtFPeRVn-sw@comcast.com> >> By the way, there's a chain of battery stores (can't think of the >> name) whose cross-reference for a 640 gives a replacement of >> a 625 -- a much smaller button cell. Be careful! > I believe William is thinking of "Battery World". They are in the US > and Canada for sure, so probably a chain. My Accutron watch takes > an oddball battery. I only found one jeweler in town who stocked them > at $8.50 ("But sir, they are Sony batteries"). Battery World had the > correct one for $3.00. OK, it was a Maxwell. You mean Maxell. That's a major brand (Hitachi, I think). Remember Maxell cassette tapes? > A thought - have you thought of using NiMH cells? Possibly there is an > equivalent pyhsical size? I've used them in Sony micro radios to replace > the originals with good success. And they're rechargeable. I'll know > better when my recently acquired Micronic arrives in the mail. A NiMH equivalent of a 640? Really? Article: 329658 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: PHONO: Can 45s be Un-Warped? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:09:58 -0500 "graham" wrote in message news:j8CdnfL0j4LdA07eRVn-tQ@comcast.com... > $1,699.00 ... there is your flag ... $1995 now... must be a result of the free advertising here.. Article: 329659 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <43cdf091.57558455@news-server.kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: TRS-80 Dancing Demon (OT) Message-ID: <%Aqzf.118503$XC4.77774@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:34:03 GMT "Mister Transistor" wrote in message news:43cdf091.57558455@news-server.kc.rr.com... > Well this is off topic but so very cool > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8751797685 > > Check out the Dancing Demon movie link in the auction! Brings back > memories! No floppy disk drive for storage on that bad boy..just 110 > baud cassette tape! > > > Wow - now there's a flashback. We had those in school. That was my first experience with a computer. I remember doing math exercises on those in 4th grade (1984). When I got to middle school, the school had Apple computers, and the high school had the IBM 5150 PC's. For the longest time, the family computer was a Texas Instruments TI-99/4a computer until we upgraded to an XT clone (with dual floppy drives and 1200 baud modem!) I got my first computer with Windows in 1993, when I went to college. Just the other day, while sorting out my reels and cassettes, I came across some old databases that I'd saved on cassette for use with the TI. Most likely, they were for keeping track of my 45's collection, which has been collecting dust in my parents basement for years now. Ahhh the memories... You're making this 31 year old feel old now. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery/Antique_radios and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 329660 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: Marshall 4140 Amp question Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:52:44 -0000 Message-ID: I rarely deal with valve/tube amps and am more familiar with radio output-matching transformers primary-windings having DC resistance of windings of hundreds of ohms. Been in a shed for years and no known history so treading cautiously. Measuring the DC resistance of each side to centre tap of this Marshall amp, shows only about 15 ohm each way. Amp is 100W o/p using 4 EL34 , two paralleled anodes going to each side of this impedance matcher. Does 15 ohm look right for each of these primary coils ? Output resistance of about 2.5 and 4.5 for 4 and 8 ohm settings seems fine. -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ Article: 329661 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Al Z." References: <43d52c6c$0$3036$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> Subject: Re: Lafayette Radio - Who made their home stereo gear in the mid / late 1970's ? Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:14:44 -0500 Message-ID: <43d67d8f$0$9253$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> In 1972 I bought a LRE LA-125B and a LRE LA-975 Quad amp and have been using them just about every day without any trouble. Even the lamps still work. I recently got a LA-1000LT and a LA-1500LT Reciever. These were top of the line units in the late '60's and were built like tanks and work extremely well. Better than anything you can buy today. LRE equipment wasn't cheap, but it was very well made until they had to compete with the Jap imports. In order to keep their prices equal or near to the Jap stuff they cheapened it up so much that it was junk. RIP LRE. "Al Z." wrote in message news:43d52c6c$0$3036$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com... > LRE equipment was made in Japan by several different companies. > As far as replacement parts goes, the only source I know of are other LRE > units. > Hope this helps a little. > > > "Steve Stone" wrote in message > news:Ac9Bf.1560$wk5.837@news02.roc.ny... > > I have a Lafayette LA-40 Amp and LT-40 AM/FM tuner. Think I purchased them > > in 1977 or 1978. Was wondering who made them for Lafayette. Looking for > some > > repair parts. Left channel meter seems to be failing. > > > > Steve > > N2UBP > > > > > > Article: 329662 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Great radio find (other stuff too) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:41:13 -0600 Message-ID: <27100-43D682D9-2620@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <1138123491.768332.82100@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Some satellites in orbit "see" things like that too. cuhulin Article: 329663 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: KA6UUP Subject: Re: FA Hallicrafters HT-1E and HT-2A Village Radios References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:15:25 GMT Thanks Jeffrey. Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Nice radios Chuck... > > Jeff > > KA6UUP wrote: > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5858482793 >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5858492599 >> >> Thanks, >> Chuck > > Article: 329664 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Dual Turntables Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 04:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1137571358.060010.288650@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In Wayne Boatwright writes: >On Wed 18 Jan 2006 06:19:26p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Tim >Mullen? >> Rather tangentially (cough, cough), there was a ceiling fan made >> in the twenties (I think) by Westinghouse (I think) that had variable >> pitch. You could twiddle the blades, while running, from full down >> draft to full up, and watch the fan speed up as you went thru the >> flat "feathered" position. Much fun. >> >For many years the original Hunter ceiling fans had a manual mechanical >adjustment that allowed adjustment of the blade pitch from blowing straignt >down thru blowing straing up. The blade shafts were mounted on a collar. >The collar had a lever that adjusted the pitch. That's it! Hunter Adaptaires. >As afar as Westinghouse, I don't know. Nah, I was wrong about that. AFAIK. >However, I don't know how you'd make that adjustment with the fan >actually running. Just by moving the lever, I'd guess. I know it's possible. I've never had one. I've got an Emerson fernleaf in the bathroom, but that's the only "normal" ceiling fan -- there's a Jandus gyro in the living room, a Westinghouse Rotaire in the dining room, and a Westinghouse (DC!) gyro in the bedroom. If I bought another "normal" ceiling fan, though, it'd be an Adaptaire. Anyways, sorry for dragging this O.T. I was thinking of how the ability to vary VTA whilst playing one's foot-long biscuits was sorta like the Adaptaire. Probably not. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 329665 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Dual Turntables Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 04:39:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1137571358.060010.288650@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In "graham" writes: >... wow, it is amazing in less than 200 words how a topic can mutate into > something that has nothing to do with the original post ... Social conversations amongst humans tend to do that. On Usenet it's called "thread drift". >... VTA to ceiling fans ... I'll go back to my standard statement .. That's my fault. Mea culpa. I just happened to be more interested in ceiling fans at this moment than I am in the VTA adjustment of my tonearm. My bad. > ... does anyone really read these posts? You and I do. That's two. And Wayne, who replied. That's three. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 329666 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: ball on a pole? Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:24:24 -0700 Message-ID: Back in the 50s, a lot of houses had vertical poles on their roofs. These poles were topped by metal balls. I would guess the poles were 10 ft. long and the balls maybe 9 in. diameter. However, judging from on the ground and 50 years away I might be way off. The last time I saw one was in the 70s. When I asked what they were, I was told that they were radio antennas. Does anyone know anything about these? If they were antennas, was there something special about the ball or was it just decoration? When were these new? Does anyone have a picture? Thanks. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 329667 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:08:58 -0600 Message-ID: <13514-43D6A57A-2437@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> I HAVE A TUBE WITH ROUND CLEAR ENVELOPE IN ADDITON TO THE CYLINDRICAL SILVER PLATED AND UNPLATED, WITH EVACUATION POINT AND WITHOUT. THIS TUBE IS 2 1/8" IN DIAMETER, HAS A 1/2" THROAT AND A STANDARD WD-II BASE. THE TUBE INSIDE IS NEW, CENTERED IN THE ENVELOPE AND LOOKS FOR ALL THE WORLD LIKE THE ELEMENTS OF A SIMILIAR TUBE EXCEPT THAT IT HAS GLASS COVERING THE ELEMENTS. $25.00 SEE MY OTHER TYPES ON MY WEBSITE. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 329668 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "George Conklin" References: <43d52c6c$0$3036$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> <%nbBf.1322$1n4.1094@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <43D5B4F3.1E22A2C@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Lafayette Radio - Who made their home stereo gear in the mid / late 1970's ? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 01:26:43 GMT "Omer Suleimanagich" wrote in message news:M7nBf.2678$Dk.470@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Here in Los Angeles, during the 70's, CB'er's called Lafayette, "Laughing > Idiot". Many of their employees just didn't get it when approached about a > specific question or need. > > I guess their communication equipment at the time along with many of their > project kits didn't quite cut the mustard! > > Oh well! > > Omer It was Radio Scholck and Laffalot. Article: 329669 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "George Conklin" References: <43d52c6c$0$3036$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> <%nbBf.1322$1n4.1094@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <43D5B4F3.1E22A2C@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Lafayette Radio - Who made their home stereo gear in the mid / late 1970's ? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 01:26:03 GMT "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:43D5B4F3.1E22A2C@earthlink.net... > Mark Oppat wrote: > > > > My first electronics job was with LRE, in 1973-74 while in high school. > > They went downhill fast, along with all other stereo equipment sellers, in > > the late 70's, and the stores in the SE Michigan area dwindled from 12 in > > 1973 to nothing by 1984 IIRC. In 1973 there were 4 stereo retailers within > > 2 miles on Plymouth Rd in Livonia, Mi. Tech HiFi, Stereoland, Lafayette, > > and Highland Appliance. The last one killed the first three, then Highland > > was finally killed by Best Buy and ABC Appliance. > > There were no "special LRE cassette decks". An urban myth as far as I know. > > Every maker wanted to be totally compatable with any existing system, to > > not be was death. > > We had some electronics parts, I sold a lot of them, but Norwest > > Electronics, who I moved over to later, had the REAL stock of stuff! > > > > Every town of good size had these "Electronic parts distributors" who were > > mostly for the guys in the trade, that is, repair shops. They were like a > > Mouser catalog in a store, and, they are all gone now, except for smaller > > outfits like me who bought all the stuff that pertains to antique radio > > repair. > > > > Mark Oppat > > > My last order to Lafayette included 10, 12" * 18" blank photo > sensitive single sided PC boards. It took over a month to get the > package in the mail. When it finally arrived it was in a 6" * 6" * 6" > box, and the PC boards never arrived. They had marked the order as > shipped complete, and after repeated letters they refused to send me my > PC boards, so when they went out of business a few years later I just > laughed at them and thought "Good riddance!". They had screwed me out > of almost $100 that I had earned mowing yards for $3 to $5 each, so I > was glad to see them get theirs. That was the only time I ever had a > problem with any parts order through the US mail. > > > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida I always had a hard time with Lafayette's mail order. I once ordered a stereo preamp kit, and they sent me a kit someone else had assembled and returned!! They held onto payments forever, and sent used stuff. By 1962, I was finished with them forever and ever. I still keep some of the old catalogs around because I used to drool about having all that stuff. It seems funny now. I also kept the Allied catalogs for the same reason. Article: 329670 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Great radio find (other stuff too) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:57:19 -0500 Message-ID: <11tdmo7iedh6b48@corp.supernews.com> References: <1138139941.662295.290550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "Bob" wrote in message news:1138139941.662295.290550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > Most such people probably view history as that boring class in which > they had to memorize random information (names and dates) in high > school. And thus of no value. > Hating history and destroying it is perhaps the essence of being American- "History is bunk" Henry Ford. We look up and ahead, not down and back- only Socialists do that! History just makes you think you can't do something- who needs it? Many Americans- even on this group- have a flat screen TV always running in every major room, and a new cellphone every few months. They will upgrade to hi-def digital when it becomes available. Each time I drive the NY Thruway there is one more EZPass lane and one less cash lane. Soon I won't be able to use cash. John H. Article: 329671 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Great radio find (other stuff too) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:12:40 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1138139941.662295.290550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11tdmo7iedh6b48@corp.supernews.com> "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11tdmo7iedh6b48@corp.supernews.com... > > "Bob" wrote in message > news:1138139941.662295.290550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >> > Most such people probably view history as that boring class in which >> they had to memorize random information (names and dates) in high >> school. And thus of no value. >> > Hating history and destroying it is perhaps the essence of being American- > "History is bunk" Henry Ford. We look up and ahead, not down and back- > only Socialists do that! History just makes you think you can't do > something- who needs it? Many Americans- even on this group- have a flat > screen TV always running in every major room, and a new cellphone every > few months. They will upgrade to hi-def digital when it becomes available. > Each time I drive the NY Thruway there is one more EZPass lane and one > less cash lane. Soon I won't be able to use cash. "Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it." - everyone's 10th grade history teacher Article: 329672 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43D6DF00.C6074295@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Great radio find (other stuff too) References: <1138139941.662295.290550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11tdmo7iedh6b48@corp.supernews.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 02:15:00 GMT Hagstar wrote: > > "Bob" wrote in message > news:1138139941.662295.290550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > > Most such people probably view history as that boring class in which > > they had to memorize random information (names and dates) in high > > school. And thus of no value. > > > Hating history and destroying it is perhaps the essence of being American- > "History is bunk" Henry Ford. We look up and ahead, not down and back- only > Socialists do that! History just makes you think you can't do something- who > needs it? Many Americans- even on this group- have a flat screen TV always > running in every major room, I don't have even one flat screen TV, and I've only had two new TV's in my 53 years on earth. I have owned hundreds of used TVs. > and a new cellphone every few months. I've never owned a working cell phone. > They will upgrade to hi-def digital when it becomes available. I MIGHT buy one, if they ever "UPGRADE" the programing into something worth watching. For now, its a huge waste of money. > Each time I drive the > NY Thruway there is one more EZPass lane and one less cash lane. Soon I > won't be able to use cash. I have never driven on a toll road. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 329673 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Great radio find (other stuff too) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:28:51 -0400 Message-ID: <11tdoj5f0esvr4a@corp.supernews.com> References: <1138139941.662295.290550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11tdmo7iedh6b48@corp.supernews.com> <1138155154.664443.192140@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> AuroraOldRadios wrote: > When I lived in Farmington, NM in 1977-79, excavations for a sewer line > on the edge of town turned up a fair amount of Anasazi pottery and > artifacts. The broken pieces were tossed on the ground for anyone to > pick up. I suppose the local "tresasure hunters" took anything of > worth. I still have few of those shards around here somewhere. No > complete pots, I would have turned them over to a museum. Pretty > awesome to see the fingerprints of someone who lived 800 years ago. > Living here in the "small islands" of the Caribbean, old artifacts are regularly encountered. Part of the small-island culture sees that as just old garbage...they've all seen it before and aren't impressed when somebody new finds it. The other extreme are the folks who capitalize on such findings in locales that have rigidly legislated how findings should be dealt with. This stuff never sees the light of day and goes directly from finder to buyer to avoid governmental bs. Its one of those areas that doesn't seem to have a middle ground. -Bill Article: 329674 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Photos of the 1/21/06 New England Antique Radio Club Meet Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:30:24 -0500 Message-ID: <11tdom6qo6r6474@corp.supernews.com> Now, on binaries. I'd post on the Forum but there isn't a category for such. Sold all of the low end stuff from a recent collection I bought, nearly all at cost. But I found nothing to buy. That's the way these NEARC meets have gone for me lately though :( John H. Article: 329675 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Great radio find (other stuff too) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:32:01 -0400 Message-ID: <11tdop1h8ttm49f@corp.supernews.com> References: <1138139941.662295.290550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11tdmo7iedh6b48@corp.supernews.com> <43D6DF00.C6074295@earthlink.net> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Hagstar wrote: > >>"Bob" wrote in message >>news:1138139941.662295.290550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >> >>> > Most such people probably view history as that boring class in which >>>they had to memorize random information (names and dates) in high >>>school. And thus of no value. >>> >> >>Hating history and destroying it is perhaps the essence of being American- >>"History is bunk" Henry Ford. We look up and ahead, not down and back- only >>Socialists do that! History just makes you think you can't do something- who >>needs it? Many Americans- even on this group- have a flat screen TV always >>running in every major room, > > > > I don't have even one flat screen TV, and I've only had two new TV's > in my 53 years on earth. I have owned hundreds of used TVs. > > >>and a new cellphone every few months. > > > > I've never owned a working cell phone. > > >>They will upgrade to hi-def digital when it becomes available. > > > > I MIGHT buy one, if they ever "UPGRADE" the programing into something > worth watching. For now, its a huge waste of money. > > >>Each time I drive the >>NY Thruway there is one more EZPass lane and one less cash lane. Soon I >>won't be able to use cash. > > > > I have never driven on a toll road. > :) Article: 329676 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Intresting History Tidbit Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:01:08 -0700 Message-ID: I was reading the local paper tonight and in the "100 Years Ago (1906)" column it said: "Wireless telegraphy for Miles City along with other Montana towns is the next step in the march of progress that is capturing the west according to an article in the Butte Miner." 1906 !!! Heck...I didn't think that wireless telegraphy was even THOUGHT of in these parts till 1910...at least !!! Maybe the wild west was settling down sooner than I ever thought it did. Ben Article: 329677 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Great radio find (other stuff too) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:12:45 -0600 Message-ID: <19278-43D6ECAD-612@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <43D6DF00.C6074295@earthlink.net> I dont own a flat screen tv set,,, yet anyway.I have had to pay tolls to cross over toll bridges before.I owned a cell phone over six years ago,but I almost never used it or I either forgot to take it anywhere with me or I just didn't care to take it anywhere with me or every couple of days or so it was needing to be charged back up,it was more trouble than it was worth to me,when my two year contract with Bell South cell phone service expired,I was glad to let it drop.Besides,everybody else has a cell phone,in an emergency,I suppose I could use one of their cell phones for a minute or so.Everywhere I go out shopping or wherever,everybody has a cell phone glued to their ears or they have a cell phone earbud stuck in their ears. cuhulin Article: 329678 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Looking for a SAMS Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:44:49 -0700 Message-ID: Looking for a Sams# 663 ...Folder 5 for an Emud 1211. Anybody got one ?? Ben Article: 329679 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Lafayette Radio - Who made their home stereo gear in the mid Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:02:47 -0700 Message-ID: <26972-43D6F867-3059@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net> References: Scott what was that other little store several blocks south of the old Lafayette store ? they sold mostly electronics . I used to drool over the 7`` sony color sets and sony radios . Article: 329680 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: PRECISION-VACUUM TUBE-TESTER Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:48:23 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1138022720.111669.57370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > Omer: > > A bit of a clarification of Mark's opinion below..... > > This looks like a simple emissions-tester gussied up with a few extra > bells & whistles. Anything more than $60 or so for such a tester is too > much. Either save your $$ for a GM-type tester, or spend a lot less for > an emissions-type. I have a Precision 1040 (probably their top of the line tester, or close to it) that I bought on eBay for $60.00. Not a bad tester, all things considered. It does a fine job of finding the marginal tubes in my project Boatanchors, most of which have 10+ tubes. The unit pictured seems to be a way stripped-down version of my tester, which will test every era of tube except compactrons and nuvistors. If you get one of these testers, make damn sure it includes the instruction manual and tube chart books that supplement the original built-in roll chart. Typically, they populated the roll chart with the most popular tube types and then later published a little booklet with settings for newer and more obscure tubes. >Furthermore, eBay tends to vastly overprice tube > testers for unfathomable reasons. Like most other things, it's the audiophools who drive the prices up. They seem to think these testers have some magical ability to match tubes for that warm, airy sound. Your better source would be either > people here with extras, or local Ham-Fests, swaps and fleas, or your > local radio club. If you get to Kutztown, you will see _many_ testers > priced from $25 to $700, but you will be able to kick the tires. > Rule of thumb #1....NEVER buy on eBay what can be had at a swap, unless you truly hate those portraits of dead presidents in your wallet. > Put simply, this tester is not a whole lot better than a good VOM for > testing tubes, best used as a GO/NO-GO device rather than for any > serious purposes. > > All that said, I do keep a small emissions-type tester for exactly that > purpose, saving the Hickok for serious testing, matching or some audio > applications. But it is of roughly the same rank as the VOM in the > glove-box. Good for basic stuff, but not a 'precision instrument' Rule of thumb #2.....A tube that tests bad in a tester is almost certainly bad, but a tube that tests good in a tester ain't necessarily good. (rule applies to all emissions testers and even some of the Hickoks) In general, acceptable performance of a tube in a working radio is usually self-evident, so tube testers don't get a lot of use in my shop, but there are situations where nothing else will do, like assessing the quality of an oddball tube that no other working radio in the house uses. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org