Article: 330961 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: New paypal scam: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 02:42:35 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <440909B2.8661DE4@earthlink.net> <120i3mobj62om62@news.supernews.com> <440CF000.6DB685AB@earthlink.net> In <440CF000.6DB685AB@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: > The fraudsters should be dropped into a real "Black Hole", not just >loose access to the web. You might be on to something, Michael. Tying into another thread where you related a misadventure with your local post office, perhaps spammers should be taped up in a box and sent thru the USPS system with a slightly wrong delivery address. :) That'd fix 'em! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 330962 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: thoughts on this philco Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 02:46:41 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1141652345.936424.223190@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <27681-440C3D70-97@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> <1141673947.669918.167660@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <2z0Pf.13654$iR1.3491@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1141680997.686469.302520@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1141692789.519124.125380@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> In <1141692789.519124.125380@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> "Eddie Brimer" writes: >thanks. not so much skill as a bunch of practice. Eddie, you're too modest. Lots of practice results in skill. Ya do beautiful work, kid! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 330964 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: All Zenith T.O. radios out of here Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 19:56:00 -0700 Message-ID: <23960-440CF640-1304@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> They are good radios yes but did any of them ever get thrown away ? I have owned dozens of them , 4 now and they wont go away , i threw one in the garbage can last week but i know it will come back to haunt me like a bad weegee ( or how ever its spelled ! ) board . I see 500 of them at any hour any day any year on ebay . I see 20 to 40 posts at all times in newsgroups on them . How many of the bloody things did they make anyway ! i think they out number .... well ... anything ! Do they still make them or something? They HAVE to be ... Do they multiply in dark closets and basements ? I cant remember the last time i was totaly without a ^&$*&#@! Zenith transoceanic frigen radio of some sort . I start talking to a total stranger at work and get on the subject of old radios and he says ``hay`` i have an old radio out in my truck , wana see it ? .. ``sure`` get out there & OH NOOOOOOO Another bloody !#@^*&#@! Zenith transoceanic radio and probably the one i put in the garbage can and shut the lid and got up early special to watch the garbage truck empty the can ..... Then ..... THEN he says ``you can have it `` Oh NO .. sh## as i put the blasted stinken thing in the back of my open truck during work in the parking lot where anyone could just easly TAKE it .. but does it get stolen oh hell NO .. it comes home , sits around and stares at me even with its flap closed . Help me Article: 330965 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: All Zenith T.O. radios out of here References: <23960-440CF640-1304@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:10:27 -0600 Ken G. wrote: > They are good radios yes but did any of them ever get thrown away ? I > have owned dozens of them , 4 now and they wont go away , i threw one in > the garbage can last week but i know it will come back to haunt me like > a bad weegee ( or how ever its spelled ! ) board . I see 500 of them at > any hour any day any year on ebay . I see 20 to 40 posts at all times in > newsgroups on them . How many of the bloody things did they make anyway > ! i think they out number .... well ... anything ! Do they still make > them or something? They HAVE to be ... Do they multiply in dark closets > and basements ? I cant remember the last time i was totaly without a > ^&$*&#@! Zenith transoceanic frigen radio of some sort . I start talking > to a total stranger at work and get on the subject of old radios and he > says ``hay`` i have an old radio out in my truck , wana see it ? .. > ``sure`` get out there & OH NOOOOOOO > Another bloody !#@^*&#@! Zenith transoceanic radio and probably the one > i put in the garbage can and shut the lid and got up early special to > watch the garbage truck empty the can ..... Then ..... THEN he says > ``you can have it `` Oh NO .. sh## as i put the blasted stinken thing in > the back of my open truck during work in the parking lot where anyone > could just easly TAKE it .. but does it get stolen oh hell NO .. it > comes home , sits around and stares at me even with its flap closed . > > Help me > > Send them to me, of course (I'll bet I'm not the only one to say this). I've been concentrating on the TO clones, because they're relatively available today; but tomorrow? I've never owned a TO, but have RCA 7 BX, 3 BX, Halli' TW 1000. I'll collect the TO's 'after' I get the rest... ...unless you want to send me yours. Article: 330966 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: Slightly OT: $40 for Heath AR 15?..was AR 1500a References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:23:59 -0600 Uncle Peter wrote: > "jakdedert" wrote in message > news:UlyMf.28811$UD1.3910@bignews2.bellsouth.net... >> This receiver has been discussed here. Is this a fair price for a >> 'working' original, kit-built example? >> >> jak >> >> > > I've had mine since 1968. When I was in high school I dreamed about > owning one for years! They have a lot of problems with FM tuner drift, > the AM is poor... But, I still use it and I refuse to upgrade; it's a > classic. > > Pete > > Well, I got it...truly a pig in a poke. It turned out to be the above 1500a...and it was $50; but I got it anyway. Very nice walnut cabinet, missing pre-pwr jumpers, NOISY pots (fixed), blown bulbs (need five #44), dirty heat sink...otherwise excellent. Solid 23 volts @ 1k both channels driven into 8 ohm dummies. Not a trace of hum. Very clean waveform, VERY sensitive AM, sweet sounding FM over headphones, built like a tank (glad I didn't have to ship--at least 40 lbs)...haven't hooked up speakers, CD or TT yet. Can't seem to find much info...manuals on the web around $30. Article: 330967 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <1141621343.768266.311710@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: The wife would have been horrified... Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 20:30:20 -0700 Well, My mom and Roberts wife, must be from the same mold. I on the other hand have broken that mold!!!! Most of the furnishings in my home are antique hand me downs or auction finds or trash pickings. Years ago, when I was about 12 or 13, my Grandfather taught me how to be thrifty and have fun, fixing broken things... that lesson stuck!!!!! But, Mom never did like for either my brother or I to bring things home.... I wont even tell you how I got my sx-71 or how much garbage I had to dig through to "rescue" it. bob in phx "Terry" wrote in message news:Qo0Pf.562$_b.79463@news20.bellglobal.com... > > "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message > news:1141621343.768266.311710@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> My mom would be proud of me. She grew up in the worst of the depression >> with an alcoholic dad. Anything that was useful (and free) was >> scrounged and used until it wore out completely. We picked up her >> scrounging methods. As kids in a small town we'd regularly visit the >> town dump to scrounge. >> > > Totally agree: We survived WWII and its aftermath, in Britain. Rationing, > shortages etc. Scrounging was looked upon as 'ingenious improvisation', do > it yourself etc. Larger items could be moved quite a distance by resting > some part of it on a bicycle and wheeling it home! I recall a very > large/heavy 1940s radar power supply moved a couple of miles that way. > Still got a couple of the parts of it, somewhere! > > The amount of stuff that is dumped is a crime. Unfortunately a few years > ago a man scavenging was killed by one of the machines at our dump/tip. > Since then not even the employees are allowed to remove anything, even if > it's fully serviceable! Enough wood is dumped, for example, to heat the > city hall! > > Yet despite constant complaining "that the dump will be all filled up by > year ...... " there is no attempt at the dump itself to recycle anything. > Drop it off and get out! Although one day I helped a guy load some turf > sods that had been dumped; suggesting to him that if asked he should say > that he had to unload the sods to dump his garbage/trash underneath and > then put them back on again! :-) > > Also considerable lack of success and very complicated procedures > regarding recycling. For example plastic bottle/jars etc. Those that > contained food cannot be recycled but those that contained cleaning > compounds, soap etc. can be recycled! Or is that the other way round > ...................? Recycled newspapers must not contain the coloured > advertising flyers nor anything with glossy pages. See what I mean? That's > more organised that my reading and laying aside skills! > > Recycling rules are so complicated that many people just don't bother. One > woman carefully recycled various items in plastic garbage bags, drove to > the recycling depot and received something like 75 cents for the kids who > helped to recycle, piggybank. Working out the cost of the bags and the gas > (let alone the time used) found she had made a loss of a few dollars! > > Disheartening many of us would like to and do recycle and also since the > price of some products, new, now includes a recycling fee. But admit I > dumpster dive with the best of em given opportunity! And take a certain > pride in returning something to a useful working state. Result is I got a > lot of projects (i.e. junk)! > > Anyway must move in and test that cooking stove that I was given recently, > from the garage. It's in better shape than the one I have now (which also > didn't cost anything!). Oh; and the phono motor I picked up at the side of > the road during city-clean-up week, to the horror of my very correct > British sister who was visiting (Gee whiz; she has car boot sales and > should understand that it runs in the family ................!). Parts of > that motor have resided in our bathroom fan for the past several years! > > There must be a profitable businesses in certain recycling; although with > the amount of care, skill and labour involved I don't think vintage, rare, > sought-after, unique (all those eBay superlatives eh?) radios are? > > Have fun out there! > Article: 330968 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Growing conductive fuzz Message-ID: References: <1141678167.588787.176190@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <23960-440CDB56-1277@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 04:01:24 GMT >Thanks guys . I have not tried the 120 volts & bulb yet . Here is what i >have tried >. >1 Clean cap with forced air and long stiff brush in all sets of plates . >I could see the dust & stuff poof out of the cap . Re-install in radio >and it works great for a month then it comes back . > >2 Remove cap and put in ultrasonic cleaner , blow dry and lube .. same >results .. it comes back . > >3 fix up a piece of thin plastic with cloth to buff between all plates >with WD-40 , blow dry .. same results . it comes back . > >I look in the cap plates with a light each time and see thousands of >fine peach fuzz all over every plate . > >One radio this has deen a problem in is a Crosley O2CA that i have had >for 15? years or so . I bought another O2CA to restore and it has the >same fuzz in the tuner which i killed with lacquer . I will lacquer >thiner the tuner next summer . >One other radio with this problem is a small AA5 Olympic Sounds like perhaps the capacitor plates were made from a bad batch of metal, or got exposed to some contaminant that has compromised the thin coating of aluminum oxide that normally protects the metal from further oxidation. Perhaps there is some kind of chemical treatment that could restore the surface? If you want to see a graphic illustration of this kind of corrosion in action, get a piece of scrap aluminum, and rub a drop of mercury into it with a wad of steel wool. This creates a domain of aluminum amalgam on the surface of the metal, which effectively breaks that oxide barrier. That amalgamated patch will continuously grow long white whiskers of aluminum oxide unitl it eats right through the piece of scrap. I learned this the hard way back in high school, when I found bunch of spilled mercury in the dirt at school. I scooped up the dirt, and panned out the mercury using an old aluminum baking dish. The white whiskers grew, and grew, and grew. Eventually the pan was riddled with tiny holes. That's why airlines have fits if you bring mercury on board. It may well be the only permanent cure is to replace the problem tuning cap. Gordon Richmond Article: 330969 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Why won't people ship to Canada? Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 04:04:21 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <%nvMf.75890$B94.40075@pd7tw3no> <8JGdnYUg5tKXnJDZRVn-tg@comcast.com> In <8JGdnYUg5tKXnJDZRVn-tg@comcast.com> "graham" writes: >"Phil B" wrote in message >news:dYKdnZHrHJcvOZ_Z4p2dnA@comcast.com... >> Shipping to Canada by USPS is almost as easy as inside US. >... see above why people in the USA don't ship to Canada ... Um... because it's almost as easy as shipping to the US? Did I get that right? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 330970 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: All Zenith T.O. radios out of here Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 20:59:58 -0700 Message-ID: <23960-440D053E-1316@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: Ok i have a very nice condition cleaned up working tubed black cased slide dial TO . A second same but rough condition working . A 3000 transistor model with its books in super condition works like new and a 1000 in darn near mint condition never seen a better and working like new with book & serv man . What do you have to trade ? Article: 330971 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <440D0783.1B9EBA0C@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: New paypal scam: References: <440909B2.8661DE4@earthlink.net> <120i3mobj62om62@news.supernews.com> <440CF000.6DB685AB@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 04:11:07 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > > In <440CF000.6DB685AB@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: > > > The fraudsters should be dropped into a real "Black Hole", not just > >loose access to the web. > > You might be on to something, Michael. Tying into another thread > where you related a misadventure with your local post office, perhaps > spammers should be taped up in a box and sent thru the USPS system > with a slightly wrong delivery address. :) > > That'd fix 'em! Just make sure to poke air holes in the box so you don't get charged with cruelty to the brain dead. PS: Make sure you use the smallest box you can squeeze them into to keep the postage costs as low as possible. ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 330972 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: All Zenith T.O. radios out of here References: <23960-440CF640-1304@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 04:16:20 GMT AH!!! A Tech in dispair! Never fear, I am here to help, simply send them all to me, and I'll take care of them.... Ken G. wrote: > They are good radios yes but did any of them ever get thrown away ? I > have owned dozens of them , 4 now and they wont go away , i threw one in > the garbage can last week but i know it will come back to haunt me like > a bad weegee ( or how ever its spelled ! ) board . I see 500 of them at > any hour any day any year on ebay . I see 20 to 40 posts at all times in > newsgroups on them . How many of the bloody things did they make anyway > ! i think they out number .... well ... anything ! Do they still make > them or something? They HAVE to be ... Do they multiply in dark closets > and basements ? I cant remember the last time i was totaly without a > ^&$*&#@! Zenith transoceanic frigen radio of some sort . I start talking > to a total stranger at work and get on the subject of old radios and he > says ``hay`` i have an old radio out in my truck , wana see it ? .. > ``sure`` get out there & OH NOOOOOOO > Another bloody !#@^*&#@! Zenith transoceanic radio and probably the one > i put in the garbage can and shut the lid and got up early special to > watch the garbage truck empty the can ..... Then ..... THEN he says > ``you can have it `` Oh NO .. sh## as i put the blasted stinken thing in > the back of my open truck during work in the parking lot where anyone > could just easly TAKE it .. but does it get stolen oh hell NO .. it > comes home , sits around and stares at me even with its flap closed . > > Help me > -- Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Article: 330973 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <23960-440CF640-1304@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: All Zenith T.O. radios out of here Message-ID: Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 04:30:36 GMT "Jim Bailey" wrote in message news:R-2dnYtSHKDSlJDZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@aros.net... > Hi Ken, > > They were popular, and they were expensive. Being popular, a lot of them were made; > being expensive, people were hesitant to throw them away. Thus, there will always > be an ample supply. > > I would sure like to get a nice brown leather one cheap, or one of the older ones > with the plane or the sailboat. Keep me in mind, Ken, if you come across one of > these :-) > Welcome back Jim. Haven't heard much from you lately! jim menning Article: 330974 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Why won't people ship to Canada? References: <%nvMf.75890$B94.40075@pd7tw3no> <1141067209.400111.105500@t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 04:37:27 GMT graham wrote: > > ... see above why people in the USA don't ship to Canada ... > See above why people stopped replying to graham. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 330975 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: thoughts on this philco Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 21:31:39 -0700 Message-ID: <23960-440D0CAB-1317@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: <1141692985.338637.297690@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> We need to find you a 130 Eddie . This one is my only hi end tombstone and it appeals to me for many reasons , value being last on the list . Several radios come & go , my living room radios rotate at times but the 130 stays here on my end table . I have a super nice Philco 90 and basket case 70 . The 229 is a nice radio but to much like a 127 , have 3 of those . The 6T5 sounds cool though . If i ever run across another 130 i will get with you before i touch it . Remember the 15$ walton 15$ Zenith cube 30$ Zenith console all good finishes story ? I`m still trying to get over that one :-) Cant get um all ! Article: 330976 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Barry" Subject: Info on a Leitch Meter-Matic VTVM Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 22:47:55 -0600 Message-ID: <219ed$440d1067$18d649b3$26695@KNOLOGY.NET> Anyone ever seen or used one of these? It appears to be a very nice VTVM with a nice large meter face AND it does autoranging via a stepper relay that steps the range up as needed. Google came up with nothing on this as well as Ebay. Anyone? Barry - N4BUQ Article: 330977 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Growing conductive fuzz Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 21:44:25 -0700 Message-ID: <23960-440D0FA9-1318@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: <1141704113.119206.88120@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> Hi Phil .. the tuning cap has been out of the Crosley chassis several times and cleaned several ways . It always works great after the cleaning with just the air & long brush and left dry as a bone . looking at it with a light shows no fuzz and It works fine till a month or 3 goes by then the flashlight & fuzz again . I do believe the metal is defective . I have been looking for replacements from junk chassis . You cant emagine all the thousands of designs on these tuners that stop me from trying to sub one in . Its amazing . one day maybe ! Article: 330978 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: All Zenith T.O. radios out of here Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 21:58:42 -0700 Message-ID: <23960-440D1302-1319@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: Plane or sailboat YOU MEAN ZENITH BOMBER Zeniths first T.O., ``brown leather`` = $$$ I will trade those for one of those cheap swirly colored plastic little girls room radios . I am ready to relieve you of your radios to support your photography hobby :-) I am picturing one of those giant mid-evil slinging devices they used in early war to sling stuff . One of those would hook nicely to a T.O. handle :-0 The little black box would fly miles away :-) I can see so far just how much these are valued . Better come up with an interesting trade before the fire . Article: 330979 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: All Zenith T.O. radios out of here Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 22:00:24 -0700 Message-ID: <23961-440D1368-348@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: Oh Jim .... I will have a brown one for you tomorrow . Which model would you like brown :-0 Article: 330980 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Excellent Site Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 22:19:29 -0700 Message-ID: <23961-440D17E1-349@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: <1141706987.444675.38090@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> 950.00 for a 1981 Zenith 7000 T.O.?!?! Geez........ ANOTHER $^&^%$ T.O. ALL MY HAIR IS COMING OUT ......... FIRE .....FIRE ......FIRE .... FIRE !!!! Article: 330981 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Growing conductive fuzz Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 23:34:14 -0700 Message-ID: <23960-440D2966-1339@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: <1141709101.757849.85490@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Good point & forgot to mention i have used a meter across the thing and it shows no reading . Also played around with the spacing , bending of plates with a light from the other side & all the tricks . I do know for sure that fuzz grows & comes back , i can see it . Also did about everything with the copper or brass ground clips as Peter W mentioned . No big deal just thought someone else may have found a cure . I need to add a ``clean ``button to the chassis running hi voltage through the cap Band switch .. AM , SW , Police , clean . Article: 330982 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: All Zenith T.O. radios out of here Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 23:42:13 -0700 Message-ID: <23960-440D2B45-1346@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: Hay did you .. did you know .. if .. if we recycle every Zenith transoceanic on every panet .. oh yes mars has them to just check ebay ... anyway every one of us could have a brand new car ! Article: 330983 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Why won't people ship to Canada? Message-ID: <3ilq02pr8qbbea63qqlp5gg8p50bjro21j@4ax.com> References: <%nvMf.75890$B94.40075@pd7tw3no> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 09:46:44 GMT > >"GBrown" wrote in message >news:KfqdndzIx-9FF5_ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@gwi.net... >> Reason I don't ship to Canada, very often, is the customer wants me to lie >> about the value on the customs slip. I then tell him to shop elsewhere. I,m >> not interested in getting into trouble over a few bucks. > >... see above why people in the USA don't ship to Canada ... > Better administer a percussive maintenance slap to your head, Graham. Needle's stuck in one groove. :>) Gordon Richmond Article: 330984 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <23960-440CF640-1304@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: All Zenith T.O. radios out of here Message-ID: Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 09:55:46 GMT I know one guy who parts them out and sells the pieces on eBay. He gets more that way than by selling them whole. I assume the carcasses go to the curb. He does that with a lot of audio gear too. -- Mike Schultz "Ken G." wrote in message news:23960-440CF640-1304@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net... > They are good radios yes but did any of them ever get thrown away ? I > have owned dozens of them , 4 now and they wont go away , i threw one in > the garbage can last week but i know it will come back to haunt me like > a bad weegee ( or how ever its spelled ! ) board . I see 500 of them at > any hour any day any year on ebay . I see 20 to 40 posts at all times in > newsgroups on them . How many of the bloody things did they make anyway > ! i think they out number .... well ... anything ! Do they still make > them or something? They HAVE to be ... Do they multiply in dark closets > and basements ? I cant remember the last time i was totaly without a > ^&$*&#@! Zenith transoceanic frigen radio of some sort . I start talking > to a total stranger at work and get on the subject of old radios and he > says ``hay`` i have an old radio out in my truck , wana see it ? .. > ``sure`` get out there & OH NOOOOOOO > Another bloody !#@^*&#@! Zenith transoceanic radio and probably the one > i put in the garbage can and shut the lid and got up early special to > watch the garbage truck empty the can ..... Then ..... THEN he says > ``you can have it `` Oh NO .. sh## as i put the blasted stinken thing in > the back of my open truck during work in the parking lot where anyone > could just easly TAKE it .. but does it get stolen oh hell NO .. it > comes home , sits around and stares at me even with its flap closed . > > Help me > Article: 330985 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hans" Subject: Precision tube tester Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 11:05:40 +0100 Message-ID: <440d5aec$0$813$3a628fcd@textreader.nntp.hccnet.nl> Hello, I look for an Precision adaptor no. G-118 these are for testing special European 8 pin minature tubes. Or can someone help me with an schematic of it? Or how should I connect the wires to an 8 pin European socket if possible in the spare opening of my 620 tester? Regards, Hans Rademaker Article: 330986 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <1141722588.209156.123500@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Unknown Radio Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 05:36:18 -0500 Message-ID: <440d6248$0$3757$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Escutcheon looks like it has the dual circles that RCA Victor used. "Dave" wrote in message news:1141722588.209156.123500@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Does anyone know the manufacturer,model ID and date of manufacture of > this radio? > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/548332168/2400117640086933478ywlhMm# > Article: 330987 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bartley Subject: Re: Why won't people ship to Canada? References: <%nvMf.75890$B94.40075@pd7tw3no> <15632-44039BE4-272@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <4409b820$0$25066$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <1141551898.310327.305620@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 07:24:23 -0500 graham wrote: > > ...I agree 100%, but John, I bet you have a USA shipping address ... > Yes, I am blessed with a friend in the USA who will accept parcels for me, but I only take advantage of that generosity when I have no other choice. cheers -- regards from :: John Bartley 43 Norway Spruce Street Stittsville, Ontario Canada, K2S1P5 ( If you slow down it takes longer - does that apply to life also?) Article: 330988 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Why won't people ship to Canada? Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 08:43:35 -0400 Message-ID: <120qvvm49um9928@corp.supernews.com> References: <%nvMf.75890$B94.40075@pd7tw3no> <15632-44039BE4-272@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <4409b820$0$25066$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <1141551898.310327.305620@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <2k5Pf.15939$vC4.11403@clgrps12> noone@telus.com wrote: > Insurance for small items from the US is very difficult to purchase I'm > told. Canada Post has automatic insurance on "Small Packets" (under 1 Kg. > weight with a few size limitations) of CDN$100.00, but from what I gather, > USPS doesn't offer this option? (or have a person jump through so many > hoops, it's not worth the effort). I gave up after about 20 minutes of > searching the USPS website. Can anyone who's actually tried to buy USPS > insurance confirm? The PO 'only' offers insurance on Parcel Post to International Destinations. Air or surface. To insure small packets, etc you must register (expensive) the letter/package to add insurance and then there are some not so reasonable dollar limits. http://ircalc.usps.gov/ After you get the rate you'll see an "Add Services" button on the bottom right corner of the screen. Run a sample at 3 pounds and one at 15 and you'll see how it works. The options available change at 4 or 5 pounds. It can be done but your $4.65 one-pound package winds up costing $12.00. Bottom line is that they don't seem to offer insurance on stuff where they charge under about $10-12 for postage. -Bill Article: 330989 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1141722588.209156.123500@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <440d6248$0$3757$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Subject: Re: Unknown Radio Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 07:15:24 -0600 Message-ID: <440d82a9$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> > Escutcheon looks like it has the dual circles that RCA Victor used. Yes, it appears to be an RCA R-8 from 1932. >> Does anyone know the manufacturer,model ID and date of manufacture of >> this radio? Article: 330990 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: thoughts on this philco Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 06:49:04 -0700 Message-ID: <24672-440D8F50-112@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> References: <1141736836.457243.193810@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Nope i cant pay 1500$ for any radio but thanks . I will have to wait till i find one at a reachable amount . Article: 330991 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: All Zenith T.O. radios out of here Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 06:56:01 -0700 Message-ID: <24670-440D90F1-1521@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> References: I know one guy who parts them out and sells the pieces on eBay. He gets more that way than by selling them whole. I assume the carcasses go to the curb. Thats the best idea yet . I have never done that and dont really like it but these things wont sell . Only offers a had so far is to take them for free . I wonder how the transistor sets would sell in pieces ? Article: 330992 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: panamuse capehart console From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <1141593651.446917.267420@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1141736209.144421.245230@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 14:05:30 GMT In article <1141736209.144421.245230@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, rubenz1967@hotmail.com says... > > >What is meant by a flip over changer? > Also refered to by many as Record Cruncher rather than Record Changer. Picture here looking down into the phono changer http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~postr/MRT/CapeMech.jpg Its an amazing mechanical system. You can select to play each record in order... all the A sides of the records ... and as each one is placed back in the stack it is turned over. So that continued play pretty soon your listening to all the B sides. It also has a switch that it will play the A side then the B side before it goes onto the next record and do the same with it etc... one small misque and yes it will crunch your record.. Once properly adjusted... if you follow the directions... never less than 3 records or 4 perhaps... and never more than 12 ?... the machine operates nicely... still wouldn't put any prized 78's on it... the $1500 price tag .... most likly thats way too high... unless someone has already completely restored properly the electronics in it plus correctly servicing the phono .... and it better have the correct jensen speakers in it... this is the "Before Restoration" picture of one of these beasts we did a few years ago http://radioatticarchives.com/images/c/Capehart_413H_Panamuse_Goller.jpg I think that is one of the largest ones... it took 5 strong guys to move carry it... John k9uwa /w4 Article: 330993 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" References: <1141697424.418181.281850@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1141706987.444675.38090@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Excellent Site Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 08:31:09 -0800 More Antique Radios and TV's at URL: http://ac6v.com/antique.htm#SW -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "michaeljpro" wrote in message news:1141706987.444675.38090@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > Dave wrote: >> RadiolaGuy.com is an excellent site and valuable resource for radios >> from the 1920s to the 1950s. Check it out for yourself at >> http://www.radiolaguy.com/ Article: 330994 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dxAce Subject: Re: All Zenith T.O. radios out of here Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 13:25:47 -0500 Message-ID: <440DD02B.31709623@milestones.com> References: <23960-440CF640-1304@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> Peter Wieck wrote: > Clones include (and I have at least one of): > > Fada > Silvertone > Airline > RCA > Hallicrafters > HMV (British) > Stromberg-Carlson > Philco > > That I do not have (but looking for): > Capehart > Pye (British) > > And I am sure that there are more. And we are not even discussing the > variants within each name. > > Get a bigger house. I have given up on trying to 'get them all' and I > am now sticking with: > > One very nice Sailboat 7G605 as representative of the very first of the > species. > One very nice 8G as the first Post-War T/O > One very nice B600L as representative of the Miniature-Tube class and > last of the tubed species. > One very nice Royal D7000Y as the last US-made version, and > best-in-class solid-state version. > One very nice R7000-2 as the last of the last of the species. > > One FADA clone with OEM Arabic dial markings on the one side. > One very nice TW-1000, Airline, Silvertone, Philco, S-C, HMV & RCA. > > I will not turn any down, but I tend to pass them on as soon as they > are made ready for polite society. Just out of curiosity do you have a pic of the dial with the arabic markings? dxAce Michigan USA Article: 330995 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" Subject: Modify 88-108 FM to tune 109 to 125 mHz? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 15:17:50 -0330 Further to that thread about changing the tuning range of an FM receiver. It seems like it might be possible to retune an FM Rx to tune through the VHF airband of around 115 to 125 mHz? Assuming a 10.7 IF with the Loc Osc. running above the received freq. Oscillator would be 88 + 10.7 = 98.7 to 108 = 10.7 = 118.7. Ratio 118.7/98.7 = 1.20 Image freqs would be; 88 + (2 x 10.7) = 109.4 to 108 + (2 x 10.70 = 129.4. Ratio = 1.18 So by modifying the RF tuning section to cover (best) the portion of the local airband of interest even if it wouldn't track the whole range above 100 mHz correctly? ** However airband tends to be AM (Voice; amplitude modulation). Would it be possible to pick off the audio signal off prior to the FM discriminator circuit and feed it to audio stages in a manner similar to what the AM Broadcast portion of the set is already set up to do? Just thinking out loud? PS. ** Without any modifications at all, a couple of times have picked up weak but intelligible VHF airport-aircraft, presumably image, signals, 'close to' 100 mHz genuine FM broadcasting. i.e. 100 = (2 x 10.7) = 121.4 mHz. (Aircraft band frequency)? Article: 330996 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: All Zenith T.O. radios out of here References: <23960-440CF640-1304@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> <1141749922.996307.219380@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <440DD02B.31709623@milestones.com> <1141757752.882423.190190@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 19:07:18 GMT If you hit reply and email it to me, I will post it up on the binaries Jeff Yeah, cause I wanna see it too. ;-) Peter Wieck wrote: > Send me your e-mail, I would be glad to send you one. I do not have the > capacity to put one in the Binaries. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 330997 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bob Subject: Re: Modify 88-108 FM to tune 109 to 125 mHz? References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 19:15:26 GMT Terry wrote: > Further to that thread about changing the tuning range of an FM receiver. > > It seems like it might be possible to retune an FM Rx to tune through the > VHF airband of around 115 to 125 mHz? > > Assuming a 10.7 IF with the Loc Osc. running above the received freq. > > Oscillator would be 88 + 10.7 = 98.7 to 108 = 10.7 = 118.7. Ratio 118.7/98.7 > = 1.20 > > Image freqs would be; 88 + (2 x 10.7) = 109.4 to 108 + (2 x 10.70 = 129.4. > Ratio = 1.18 > > So by modifying the RF tuning section to cover (best) the portion of the > local airband of interest even if it wouldn't track the whole range above > 100 mHz correctly? ** > > However airband tends to be AM (Voice; amplitude modulation). Would it be > possible to pick off the audio signal off prior to the FM discriminator > circuit and feed it to audio stages in a manner similar to what the AM > Broadcast portion of the set is already set up to do? > > Just thinking out loud? > > PS. ** Without any modifications at all, a couple of times have picked up > weak but intelligible VHF airport-aircraft, presumably image, signals, > 'close to' 100 mHz genuine FM broadcasting. i.e. 100 = (2 x 10.7) = 121.4 > mHz. (Aircraft band frequency)? > > No you can't pick off the signal ahead of the detector. It's been limited and no longer contains amplitude modulation information. You'd have to add AGC to preserve the modulation envelope. Many receivers already have that but no attempt is made to preserve the modulation. Article: 330998 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1141649358.712840.27410@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> <1141650294.883826.315100@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <440C52C5.1D549A24@earthlink.net> <1141677355.742116.117210@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1141742164.611464.89630@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: HUGE lot old books 1858-1950 copyrights-antiquarian-Ebay-L@@K ! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 14:51:43 -0500 "Ricky & Joelle White- Johnstown, Pa.-Atlantic Broadband Employee" wrote in message news:1141742164.611464.89630@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... > Drop dead, loser. Article: 330999 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Modify 88-108 FM to tune 109 to 125 mHz? Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 05:39:51 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1141759175.737282.56750@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> wrote in message news:1141759175.737282.56750@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > Terry wrote: >> However airband tends to be AM (Voice; amplitude modulation). Would it be >> possible to pick off the audio signal off prior to the FM discriminator >> circuit and feed it to audio stages in a manner similar to what the AM >> Broadcast portion of the set is already set up to do? > > Won't work. All of the IF strip together forms a limiter that elminates > AM modulation. > > You could pick it off before the IF strip... but at that point you've > got very little of the original radio left. > > Rat Shack etc. used to sell kit VHF-AM airband receivers for a couple > of bucks and I'm guessing that any of the analog-tuned VHF-AM airband > receivers from the 70's or 80's ought to work fine too. You can slope detect AM with an FM receiver, just as you can FM with an AM receiver. (well, it's a bit different sort of slope detection..). I have listened to nearby airport traffic on a standard FM radio from time to time by tuning in the image frequency. Article: 331000 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "WX" Subject: Schaub Lorenz Polo T60 photo search Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 22:06:48 +0100 Message-ID: <440df43b$0$36938$4fafbaef@reader3.news.tin.it> Hi i am live in Italy and serch large photo of Schaub Lorenz Polo T60 diplay for rebuilding line and number complete deleted Sorry for my bad english :-( Please help me !!! Many Many Tanks and '73 PINO Article: 331001 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Garrison Hilliard Subject: Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is sge pissed! Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:27:40 +0000 Message-ID: Ma Bell gets her family back together BARRIE MCKENNA Globe and Mail Update WASHINGTON — Okay, let's get this straight. There once was a Ma Bell. She was huge and she owned everything that had anything to do with telecommunications -- >from making black rotary phones to selling local service. Uncle Sam didn't like that. So he split up Ma Bell, creating a family of Baby Bell orphans. You might know them today as Verizon, SBC, Qwest and BellSouth. AT&T remained the jewel. It had the legendary engineering savvy and a keen eye for the next big thing in technology. But two decades after the breakup, Ma was growing old and tired. So SBC (formerly known as Southwest Bell) bought its own mother and they moved in together. Now SBC, which recently stole its mother's name, is also taking in one of its sisters. AT&T, based in San Antonio, Tex., has struck a deal to buy BellSouth for $67-billion (U.S.) in stock.The family tree is starting to look pretty weird. Borrowing the title of that old Paul Simon song, Democratic congressman Ed Markey of Massachusetts has already dubbed the merger a "mother and child reunion." That suggests something joyous is going on here. That's not true for all telecom customers. At the time of AT&T's breakup in 1984, there were seven Baby Bells. This deal would leave just three. This is full circle, a reunion, if you like. But it's driven by pure economics. The natural inclination of big companies is to grow ever-larger, becoming as monopolistic as antitrust regulators will allow. And with the pro-business Bush administration having remade the face of the Justice Department and the Federal Communications Commission, the players know now is the moment to get some of these big mergers approved. But just what market is AT&T and its siblings trying to control? It isn't so much about phone services, such as wireless, local or long distance. It's about access to the Internet, which is rapidly becoming the common platform for many of these services. Verizon and AT&T will control two-thirds of all local phone connections. AT&T and BellSouth would become a telecom giant with $130-billion a year in sales and 70 million local phone customers in 22 states. AT&T will also own 100 per cent of wireless provider Cingular -- the largest cellphone company in the United States. AT&T and BellSouth now jointly own it. AT&T chief executive officer Edward Whitacre said the deal would speed up the public's adoption of next-generation technology, integrating both wireless and traditional wired networks. "Together we can do it faster than each company could alone," he said. Maybe so. The local phone providers envisage a day when they'll be able to offer movies, music, TV and long distance -- all via the Internet. In a status quo environment, the phone companies are little more than providers of an increasingly cheap commodity -- broadband access. DSL service, which once cost $40 to $50 a month, is now selling for less than $20. Customers can buy broadband from multiple sources, including cable companies. The danger of doing nothing is problematic for the likes of AT&T and Verizon. They can stand idly by and watch others hijack their lines to make money, such as Apple with its iTunes service or Vonage with its Internet long-distance. So local phone service is the only monopoly card they have to deal. And they are using it as leverage. Verizon, for example, now requires customers to take local phone service if they want its DSL. That is apparently aimed at dissuading users from taking a cheap DSL deal and then signing up for one of the over-the-Internet phone offerings, such as Skype or Vonage. That's just the start. It doesn't take much imagination to see what other services are coming down the broadband pipe. The phone companies want to bypass the cable company monopolies to offer TV. On-demand movies are already available, but the service is clunky and slow. But as broadband expands, that too will change. Long distance service is already a reality. And eventually, much of this will go wireless. AT&T and Verizon are adopting the strategy that if they're really big, customers won't be able to get around them to do all these wonderful things. And Mr. Whitacre apparently believes that AT&T, not Vonage or Apple, will be the one to make money off this plethora of services. And to do that, the company figures it must be really big -- bigger than Ma Bell herself. bmckenna@globeandmail.com http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060307.gtibworld07/BNStory/Technology/home Article: 331002 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Garrison Hilliard Subject: Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is she pissed! Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:32:41 +0000 Message-ID: Ma Bell gets her family back together BARRIE MCKENNA Globe and Mail Update WASHINGTON — Okay, let's get this straight. There once was a Ma Bell. She was huge and she owned everything that had anything to do with telecommunications -- >from making black rotary phones to selling local service. Uncle Sam didn't like that. So he split up Ma Bell, creating a family of Baby Bell orphans. You might know them today as Verizon, SBC, Qwest and BellSouth. AT&T remained the jewel. It had the legendary engineering savvy and a keen eye for the next big thing in technology. But two decades after the breakup, Ma was growing old and tired. So SBC (formerly known as Southwest Bell) bought its own mother and they moved in together. Now SBC, which recently stole its mother's name, is also taking in one of its sisters. AT&T, based in San Antonio, Tex., has struck a deal to buy BellSouth for $67-billion (U.S.) in stock.The family tree is starting to look pretty weird. Borrowing the title of that old Paul Simon song, Democratic congressman Ed Markey of Massachusetts has already dubbed the merger a "mother and child reunion." That suggests something joyous is going on here. That's not true for all telecom customers. At the time of AT&T's breakup in 1984, there were seven Baby Bells. This deal would leave just three. This is full circle, a reunion, if you like. But it's driven by pure economics. The natural inclination of big companies is to grow ever-larger, becoming as monopolistic as antitrust regulators will allow. And with the pro-business Bush administration having remade the face of the Justice Department and the Federal Communications Commission, the players know now is the moment to get some of these big mergers approved. But just what market is AT&T and its siblings trying to control? It isn't so much about phone services, such as wireless, local or long distance. It's about access to the Internet, which is rapidly becoming the common platform for many of these services. Verizon and AT&T will control two-thirds of all local phone connections. AT&T and BellSouth would become a telecom giant with $130-billion a year in sales and 70 million local phone customers in 22 states. AT&T will also own 100 per cent of wireless provider Cingular -- the largest cellphone company in the United States. AT&T and BellSouth now jointly own it. AT&T chief executive officer Edward Whitacre said the deal would speed up the public's adoption of next-generation technology, integrating both wireless and traditional wired networks. "Together we can do it faster than each company could alone," he said. Maybe so. The local phone providers envisage a day when they'll be able to offer movies, music, TV and long distance -- all via the Internet. In a status quo environment, the phone companies are little more than providers of an increasingly cheap commodity -- broadband access. DSL service, which once cost $40 to $50 a month, is now selling for less than $20. Customers can buy broadband from multiple sources, including cable companies. The danger of doing nothing is problematic for the likes of AT&T and Verizon. They can stand idly by and watch others hijack their lines to make money, such as Apple with its iTunes service or Vonage with its Internet long-distance. So local phone service is the only monopoly card they have to deal. And they are using it as leverage. Verizon, for example, now requires customers to take local phone service if they want its DSL. That is apparently aimed at dissuading users from taking a cheap DSL deal and then signing up for one of the over-the-Internet phone offerings, such as Skype or Vonage. That's just the start. It doesn't take much imagination to see what other services are coming down the broadband pipe. The phone companies want to bypass the cable company monopolies to offer TV. On-demand movies are already available, but the service is clunky and slow. But as broadband expands, that too will change. Long distance service is already a reality. And eventually, much of this will go wireless. AT&T and Verizon are adopting the strategy that if they're really big, customers won't be able to get around them to do all these wonderful things. And Mr. Whitacre apparently believes that AT&T, not Vonage or Apple, will be the one to make money off this plethora of services. And to do that, the company figures it must be really big -- bigger than Ma Bell herself. bmckenna@globeandmail.com http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060307.gtibworld07/BNStory/Technology/home "We don't care. We don't hsve to; we're the phone company." - Lily Tomlin's "Ernistine, The Telephone Operater" from "Laugh-In" (And remember, folks... no government regulation this time!) Article: 331003 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Joe Farkas Subject: Re: All Zenith T.O. radios out of here Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 18:44:55 -0500 Message-ID: <1j6s029hi7gl7ubif6i03fo1ch7bggtiq6@4ax.com> References: <23960-440CF640-1304@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> <1141749922.996307.219380@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> On 7 Mar 2006 08:45:23 -0800, "Peter Wieck" wrote: >Clones include (and I have at least one of): > >Fada >Silvertone >Airline >RCA >Hallicrafters >HMV (British) >Stromberg-Carlson >Philco > >That I do not have (but looking for): >Capehart >Pye (British) > >And I am sure that there are more. And we are not even discussing the >variants within each name. > >Get a bigger house. I have given up on trying to 'get them all' and I >am now sticking with: > >One very nice Sailboat 7G605 as representative of the very first of the >species. >One very nice 8G as the first Post-War T/O >One very nice B600L as representative of the Miniature-Tube class and >last of the tubed species. >One very nice Royal D7000Y as the last US-made version, and >best-in-class solid-state version. >One very nice R7000-2 as the last of the last of the species. > >One FADA clone with OEM Arabic dial markings on the one side. >One very nice TW-1000, Airline, Silvertone, Philco, S-C, HMV & RCA. > >I will not turn any down, but I tend to pass them on as soon as they >are made ready for polite society. > >Peter Wieck >Wyncote, PA Peter: How about some model numbers for reference on clones/almost alikes? At your leisure, of course. I'm kinda "bored" with the T-Os, so been picking up other S/W portables. Some interesting sets out there, but each day there are less... must grow up or get fairy dusted into TOs! Article: 331004 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Re: thoughts on this philco Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 19:08:08 -0500 Message-ID: <428s02dpj1m9k183ukd0q0jcm1b5rekj2k@4ax.com> References: <1141652345.936424.223190@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <27681-440C3D70-97@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> <1141673947.669918.167660@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <2z0Pf.13654$iR1.3491@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1141680997.686469.302520@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1141692789.519124.125380@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1141736901.765788.73020@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> On 7 Mar 2006 05:08:21 -0800, "Eddie Brimer" wrote: >kid? i wish. i'm turning 47 in june. I don't know about Ken but I have a son your age. So I can call you kid. John B. Article: 331005 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: thoughts on this philco Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 00:11:33 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1141652345.936424.223190@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <27681-440C3D70-97@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> <1141673947.669918.167660@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <2z0Pf.13654$iR1.3491@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1141680997.686469.302520@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1141692789.519124.125380@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1141736901.765788.73020@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> In <1141736901.765788.73020@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> "Eddie Brimer" writes: >kid? i wish. i'm turning 47 in june. You're only a year ahead of me, and I ain't anywheres near done livin' out my life! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331006 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: thoughts on this philco Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 00:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1141652345.936424.223190@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <27681-440C3D70-97@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> <1141673947.669918.167660@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <2z0Pf.13654$iR1.3491@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1141680997.686469.302520@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1141692789.519124.125380@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1141736901.765788.73020@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> <428s02dpj1m9k183ukd0q0jcm1b5rekj2k@4ax.com> In <428s02dpj1m9k183ukd0q0jcm1b5rekj2k@4ax.com> John Bachman writes: >On 7 Mar 2006 05:08:21 -0800, "Eddie Brimer" wrote: >>kid? i wish. i'm turning 47 in june. >I don't know about Ken I called him a kid. These kids don't always follow attributions correctly. :) > but I have a son your age. So I can call you kid. >John B. Then you can kid us both! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331007 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dennis Daly" References: Subject: Re: 12 volt plate voltages Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:19:45 GMT "Scott Irvine" wrote in message news:rBQOf.597258$084.494266@attbi_s22... > Hi, I don't know if this has been asked before. How did they get plate > voltages to work at 12 volts which is such a lower voltage than other > tubes requiring 45-90 volts? I have a Radio Ace kit with a 12au7 tube > that only needs 12 volts total to work. Thanks for your help. Principle of Space charge. http://www.duntemann.com/12vtubes/12vtubesindex.htm Den Article: 331008 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Speaker Reconing Message-ID: Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 20:47:14 -0500 Who does this work now? Ken Article: 331009 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Speaker Reconing From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 02:04:28 GMT In article , wklwns@cox.net says... > > >Who does this work now? Ken > Hi Ken ... looks to me like it works.... John Article: 331010 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <1141652345.936424.223190@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <27681-440C3D70-97@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> <1141673947.669918.167660@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <2z0Pf.13654$iR1.3491@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1141680997.686469.302520@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: thoughts on this philco Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 20:20:14 -0600 "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1141680997.686469.302520@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > caught me jim.....converting an expensive black dial cabinet into a > bathroom vanity. just kidding...here is the vanity i made for the sink > you are talking about. > > http://members.aol.com/EB062559/vanity.jpg Man, that's so nice I'd put a radio in it! Nelson > Article: 331011 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Speaker Reconing References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:25:10 -0500 Say again??? Are you a reconer? Ken John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird wrote: > In article , wklwns@cox.net says... > >> >>Who does this work now? Ken >> > > > Hi Ken ... looks to me like it works.... > > John > Article: 331012 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: Subject: Re: tuning lamp problem Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 20:28:46 -0600 "k35454" wrote in message news:XalOf.29738$981.18209@newsfe10.phx... > > "Nelson Gietz" wrote in message > news:VCjOf.14$Dj7.7@newsfe21.lga... > Hi all, > Have a Majestic here that uses a tuning lamp. However, it's toast. > The math suggests the lamp needs to be about 20V and 0.02A. > It uses an ordinary quarter-inch threaded base. > Anyone have any recommendations for source or alternatives? > I've done some searching, but nothing seems to come close. > Cheers, > Nelson > > I have a few dozen assorted bulbs left over from when I closed up shop 25 > years ago. There is one box of Eveready #1139B marked 24v (they are bayonet > base) and I have located 2 screw-in bulbs supposed ro be 24v but it will > take me some time to confirm. As I recall, the bulbs are in series with > some tube(s) and when tuning in a station, the AVC developes, putting > negative bias on the tube(s), reducing the current and so you tune for the > maximum REDUCTION in illumination. When I have time, I will see if I can > find a chart with info on the current consumption of these bulbs. k35454. > Thanks for that explanation, k. As I read this schematic, the lamp carries the current for the RF, Mixer and first IF tubes, but I didn't consider the AVC action. I would've been expecting the lamp to brighten on tuning in. I think I've sourced some appropriate bulbs. Cheers, Nelson Article: 331013 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Speaker Reconing From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 02:35:37 GMT In article , wklwns@cox.net says... > > >Say again??? Are you a reconer? Ken > Nope... just a guy that cant read.... foot firmly planted into mouth!... I thought U were asking if the message to the group was working?... Ken Gooding does some reconing and he reads the newsgroup ... and I have a guy in Ft Wayne, IN where I live that does them.... see www.recone.com my guy runs the website... but many other reconers are out there... some do only newer speakers and not the old stuff .... John k9uwa Article: 331014 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <440E4544.97E23EE1@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: HUGE 8-track deck fixer-upper sale-get 8 different tape decks for References: <1141732425.295197.87380@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 02:45:50 GMT Beloved Leader wrote: > > Maggot Anti-defamation League on line 2. > > I see this stuff all the time on trash piles. I don't get it either. Yeah, I see it at the Ocala Goodwill store for 40 cents a pound. What doesn't sell goes to the landfill a few days later. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331015 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: thoughts on this philco Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 03:00:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1141652345.936424.223190@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <27681-440C3D70-97@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> <1141673947.669918.167660@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <2z0Pf.13654$iR1.3491@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1141680997.686469.302520@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> In "Nelson Gietz" writes: >"Eddie Brimer" wrote in message >news:1141680997.686469.302520@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... >> caught me jim.....converting an expensive black dial cabinet into a >> bathroom vanity. just kidding...here is the vanity i made for the sink >> you are talking about. >> >> http://members.aol.com/EB062559/vanity.jpg >Man, that's so nice I'd put a radio in it! "The Revenge of the Radio Restorer", making radios out of liquor cabinets and bathroom vanities. Maybe an aquarium could be used as for a glass-cased TRF? :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331016 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 12 volt plate voltages Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:28:11 -0400 Message-ID: <120sjq987n9j62d@corp.supernews.com> References: Dennis Daly wrote: > "Scott Irvine" wrote in message > news:rBQOf.597258$084.494266@attbi_s22... > >>Hi, I don't know if this has been asked before. How did they get plate >>voltages to work at 12 volts which is such a lower voltage than other >>tubes requiring 45-90 volts? I have a Radio Ace kit with a 12au7 tube >>that only needs 12 volts total to work. Thanks for your help. > > > Principle of Space charge. > > http://www.duntemann.com/12vtubes/12vtubesindex.htm > > Den > > 12AU7 in that circuit isn't working as a space-charge tube. Its simply working at low voltage. -ex Article: 331017 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: Subject: Re: Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is she pissed! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 20:41:46 -0700 first off, good that se is back,,, maybe she will rehire all the phone guys that got taken to the cleaners when they split her up. Next comes the question of when will ma bell buy Cisco and really hold the ropes to all types communications.... "Garrison Hilliard" wrote in message news:snur02pl70dhl7th8ocmtedmo916tcucjo@4ax.com... > Ma Bell gets her family back together > BARRIE MCKENNA > > Globe and Mail Update > > WASHINGTON - Okay, let's get this straight. There once was a Ma Bell. She > was > huge and she owned everything that had anything to do with > telecommunications -- > from making black rotary phones to selling local service. > > Uncle Sam didn't like that. So he split up Ma Bell, creating a family of > Baby > Bell orphans. You might know them today as Verizon, SBC, Qwest and > BellSouth. > > AT&T remained the jewel. It had the legendary engineering savvy and a keen > eye > for the next big thing in technology. > > But two decades after the breakup, Ma was growing old and tired. So SBC > (formerly known as Southwest Bell) bought its own mother and they moved in > together. > > Now SBC, which recently stole its mother's name, is also taking in one of > its > sisters. AT&T, based in San Antonio, Tex., has struck a deal to buy > BellSouth > for $67-billion (U.S.) in stock.The family tree is starting to look pretty > weird. Borrowing the title of that old Paul Simon song, Democratic > congressman > Ed Markey of Massachusetts has already dubbed the merger a "mother and > child > reunion." > > That suggests something joyous is going on here. That's not true for all > telecom > customers. At the time of AT&T's breakup in 1984, there were seven Baby > Bells. > This deal would leave just three. > > This is full circle, a reunion, if you like. But it's driven by pure > economics. > The natural inclination of big companies is to grow ever-larger, becoming > as > monopolistic as antitrust regulators will allow. > > And with the pro-business Bush administration having remade the face of > the > Justice Department and the Federal Communications Commission, the players > know > now is the moment to get some of these big mergers approved. > > But just what market is AT&T and its siblings trying to control? It isn't > so > much about phone services, such as wireless, local or long distance. It's > about > access to the Internet, which is rapidly becoming the common platform for > many > of these services. > > Verizon and AT&T will control two-thirds of all local phone connections. > AT&T > and BellSouth would become a telecom giant with $130-billion a year in > sales and > 70 million local phone customers in 22 states. AT&T will also own 100 per > cent > of wireless provider Cingular -- the largest cellphone company in the > United > States. AT&T and BellSouth now jointly own it. > > AT&T chief executive officer Edward Whitacre said the deal would speed up > the > public's adoption of next-generation technology, integrating both wireless > and > traditional wired networks. > > "Together we can do it faster than each company could alone," he said. > > Maybe so. The local phone providers envisage a day when they'll be able to > offer > movies, music, TV and long distance -- all via the Internet. > > In a status quo environment, the phone companies are little more than > providers > of an increasingly cheap commodity -- broadband access. DSL service, which > once > cost $40 to $50 a month, is now selling for less than $20. Customers can > buy > broadband from multiple sources, including cable companies. > > The danger of doing nothing is problematic for the likes of AT&T and > Verizon. > They can stand idly by and watch others hijack their lines to make money, > such > as Apple with its iTunes service or Vonage with its Internet > long-distance. > > So local phone service is the only monopoly card they have to deal. And > they are > using it as leverage. > > Verizon, for example, now requires customers to take local phone service > if they > want its DSL. That is apparently aimed at dissuading users from taking a > cheap > DSL deal and then signing up for one of the over-the-Internet phone > offerings, > such as Skype or Vonage. > > That's just the start. It doesn't take much imagination to see what other > services are coming down the broadband pipe. The phone companies want to > bypass > the cable company monopolies to offer TV. On-demand movies are already > available, but the service is clunky and slow. But as broadband expands, > that > too will change. Long distance service is already a reality. > > And eventually, much of this will go wireless. > > AT&T and Verizon are adopting the strategy that if they're really big, > customers > won't be able to get around them to do all these wonderful things. > > And Mr. Whitacre apparently believes that AT&T, not Vonage or Apple, will > be the > one to make money off this plethora of services. > > And to do that, the company figures it must be really big -- bigger than > Ma Bell > herself. > > bmckenna@globeandmail.com > > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060307.gtibworld07/BNStory/Technology/home > > "We don't care. We don't hsve to; we're the phone company." - Lily > Tomlin's > "Ernistine, The Telephone Operater" from "Laugh-In" > > > (And remember, folks... no government regulation this time!) Article: 331018 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Wanted Philco 38-116 Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 20:39:24 -0700 Message-ID: <27679-440E51EC-1643@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: Hay john how about a lovely transoceanic for the nice guy :-) Article: 331019 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is she pissed! Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 04:04:25 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "Bob in Phx" writes: > ma bell buy Cisco Circuit-switched, packet-switched. Never the twain shall meet! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331020 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Speaker Reconing Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 20:51:09 -0700 Message-ID: <27679-440E54AD-1646@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: Thanks John . I have run out of all the popular size cones .I do still have oval cones and some odd ball sizes that fit who knows what . I have alot of voice coils , spiders & dust caps still . I rebuilt a very special bakelite frame german speaker from a bare frame once for Bill Exray where these odd parts came in handy because nothing else would work . strange cone and voice coil size I would love to get a stock of cones somehow & do the service more but cant find cones in sizes & bulk anywhere. I cant get Hank brazial to answer any emails . I heard from one email hank had passed away but ? Article: 331021 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: All Zenith T.O. radios out of here Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 21:06:54 -0700 Message-ID: <27679-440E585E-1648@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: <1141745121.696326.294920@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Aw Tox this was mostly in fun . The radio i threw away was a case with one end compleatly missing & the rest beyond any use I picked it clean before hand . The chassis is in my shed . I do enjoy the clones , i have owned 2 of the TW-1000 & sold them . I love Zenith radios but have no feelings toward a transoceanic . I do think one of the first ones would be fun though but to $$ Article: 331022 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is she pissed! Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:16:16 -0400 Message-ID: <120smkft7m3bod3@corp.supernews.com> References: Bob in Phx wrote: > first off, good that se is back,,, maybe she will rehire all the phone guys > that got taken to the cleaners when they split her up. > > Next comes the question of when will ma bell buy Cisco and really hold the > ropes to all types communications.... Rehiring? Faggitabout it. The propensity for overstaffing that made her large and fat is (one of the things) that killed her. I'm f**king amazed at how this stuff goes full circle. I wasn't so upset by the breakup but I learned to accept it in my profession and on my fone bill...and simultaneously accept a more than little dose of political insight as well because that was a major burp in not only the communications bizness but how America as a whole treats Big Bizness. I work in cable and the "telco" threat is like morning coffee. Its always there. Drink up while you can because they will gladly come and refill the pot and pass out pink slips. Thats true in most any business these days. In those days they would have demanded that Wal Mart separate itself >from Sams Club and its distribution centres just so it would be "smaller". That was much the mentality back then and it still is to a large degree. I don't see how this can fly well in public opinion. I have no problems with these fat cats buying out each other...I get the feeling that they never really separated all that far anyway. One huge fish spawning itself into 5 or 6 large predatory fish by name wasn't any great public deliverance. I think the public perception is different nowadays....we used to stand in line at the phone to call grandma on the phone from Charlotte to Richmond on Mother's Day and it cost $4 a minute to say hi. Nowadays I could talk to Granny 8 hours a day every day of the month for $29.95. Nothing about the merger suggests that I won't be able to do so in the future. Its just corporate ballyhoo. Nobody really cares if the ketchup company owns the mustard company. They just want a good affordable hotdog. -ex Article: 331023 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Speaker Reconing Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:20:32 -0400 Message-ID: <120smsgu4r15b@corp.supernews.com> References: <27679-440E54AD-1646@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Ken G. wrote: > alot of voice coils , spiders & dust caps still . I rebuilt a very > special bakelite frame german speaker from a bare frame once for Bill > Exray where these odd parts came in handy because nothing else would > work . strange cone and voice coil size And I'll kudo Ken for that. Hank Braziel wasn't interested in tackling that one! -Bill Article: 331024 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dennis Daly" References: <120sjq987n9j62d@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: 12 volt plate voltages Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 04:42:53 GMT "- exray -" wrote in message news:120sjq987n9j62d@corp.supernews.com... > Dennis Daly wrote: > > "Scott Irvine" wrote in message > > news:rBQOf.597258$084.494266@attbi_s22... > > > >>Hi, I don't know if this has been asked before. How did they get plate > >>voltages to work at 12 volts which is such a lower voltage than other > >>tubes requiring 45-90 volts? I have a Radio Ace kit with a 12au7 tube > >>that only needs 12 volts total to work. Thanks for your help. > > > > > > Principle of Space charge. > > > > http://www.duntemann.com/12vtubes/12vtubesindex.htm > > > > Den > > > > > 12AU7 in that circuit isn't working as a space-charge tube. Its simply > working at low voltage. You're right, ex- I didn't consider the last part of the question. Den > > -ex Article: 331025 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Scott Irvine Subject: Re: 12 volt plate voltages References: <120sjq987n9j62d@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 05:29:19 GMT Dennis Daly wrote: > "- exray -" wrote in message > news:120sjq987n9j62d@corp.supernews.com... > >>Dennis Daly wrote: >> >>>"Scott Irvine" wrote in message >>>news:rBQOf.597258$084.494266@attbi_s22... >>> >>> >>>>Hi, I don't know if this has been asked before. How did they get plate >>>>voltages to work at 12 volts which is such a lower voltage than other >>>>tubes requiring 45-90 volts? I have a Radio Ace kit with a 12au7 tube >>>>that only needs 12 volts total to work. Thanks for your help. >>> >>> >>> Principle of Space charge. >>> >>> http://www.duntemann.com/12vtubes/12vtubesindex.htm >>> >>> Den >>> >>> >> >>12AU7 in that circuit isn't working as a space-charge tube. Its simply >>working at low voltage. > > > You're right, ex- > I didn't consider the last part of the question. > > Den > >>-ex > > > Yes that is the kit I have. I use to be on here a while ago and am recently back. I missed that one. Scott Article: 331026 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 12 volt plate voltages Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 01:36:58 -0400 Message-ID: <120srbpi3ql7i5c@corp.supernews.com> References: <120sjq987n9j62d@corp.supernews.com> Dennis Daly wrote: > "- exray -" wrote in message > news:120sjq987n9j62d@corp.supernews.com... > >>Dennis Daly wrote: >> >>>"Scott Irvine" wrote in message >>>news:rBQOf.597258$084.494266@attbi_s22... >>> >>> >>>>Hi, I don't know if this has been asked before. How did they get plate >>>>voltages to work at 12 volts which is such a lower voltage than other >>>>tubes requiring 45-90 volts? I have a Radio Ace kit with a 12au7 tube >>>>that only needs 12 volts total to work. Thanks for your help. >>> >>> >>> Principle of Space charge. >>> >>> http://www.duntemann.com/12vtubes/12vtubesindex.htm >>> >>> Den >>> >>> >> >>12AU7 in that circuit isn't working as a space-charge tube. Its simply >>working at low voltage. > > > You're right, ex- > I didn't consider the last part of the question. > > Den Ive built several "space charge" circuits just recently and have a lot of opinions on what works for what because I've played with all the options. As for making a regenerative detector work...a space charged 49 tube will kick butt well up into the SW spectrum. Maybe you can do this with a 6C6 because of the supresssor grid/plate spacing approaches the ball park interelectrode capacitance. With a triode? Perish the thought. You're just making an old 99/01/12Au7 detector work at low voltage...which they of course will. My 49 sets in the space charge "mode" will match any ckt that requires a big stack of 9 volt batteries to operate. Yeah, its an obtuse manner of looking at a tube but 9V on the plate and abt 1.3v on the 'control' grid and signal injected on the screen of a 49 will match any regenerative detector. What the same 2-toob 9-volt circuit won't do is deliver audio like a 90 volt supplied radio. well, duh! I've tried it both ways (space charge vs conventional) at 9 volts with a 49 and it seems the same to me. There's not much magic here...until you try to regenerate an 01A with a 9 volt battery supply. Article: 331027 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1141799804.854724.95740@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: RCA R-8 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 06:57:42 GMT "Dave" wrote in message news:1141799804.854724.95740@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > Can anyone provide me with info and picture of RCA R-8 from around > 1932? > > Thanks > http://images.google.com/images?q=rca+r8&hl=en jim menning Article: 331028 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) Subject: Re: Expensive radio!? Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:22:49 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1141799636.458808.257300@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> In article <1141799636.458808.257300@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>, "Dave" wrote: > This Philco prewar set is extra extra nice but I would NOT pay what the > current bid is. > Hello, and it's clearly worth more to the bidder than you. That's why we have auctions. Oh, excuse me, in the current inflated english vernacular that would be an auction "experience" or "event" ;-) A few years back I would have thought that ANY vacuum tube based radio or TV, if not considered a family heirloom, should be thrown out when it failed to render adequate performance. Never figured it would be worth anything to anyone. Thought that about baseball cards, too. LIke an original Wurlitzer bubble jukebox or early 70s Bally Fireball pinball, I now know that certain models of radios are going to command the big bucks. Sincerely, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 Article: 331029 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Old Car radios References: <1141810523.347851.126100@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:27:25 -0500 There was plenty of room under the dash in those old cars, not like today. Ken The Philco Guy wrote: > These old car radios from the '30s like this one > http://www.atwaterkentradio.com/ak666.htm I'm a bit confused about. I > know the control unit goes in the steering wheel or dash, but where the > heck does the radio itself go? > > and can anybody direct me to any info and pictures of 1940's car radios? > Article: 331030 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1141810523.347851.126100@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Old Car radios Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 14:30:35 GMT The vast majority of car radios during the 1930's were in sections like this. There was a "head unit" which mounted in the dash, or with some aftermarket types, on the steering column. These usually had Bowden cables that operated the volume and tuning from inside the radio itself. Sometimes the on-off switch was on the head unit, other times it was in the radio. Some units had pushbuttons or other gadgetry; these generally connected via wires to motors/solenoids in the radio to select stations. As for the radio itself, sometimes they included the speaker, and sometimes the speaker was separate. On most all such radios, the "lunchbox" mounted on the firewall. The box itself has two mounting brackets, and are fastened with "T" shaped bolts whose nuts are on the engine side of the firewall. To visualize this, you have to think about 1930's automobiles. The firewalls are much larger than what you see on modern day cars, and there is plenty of room for this type of radio. Next chance you get, try and visit an antique car show -- not the typical cruise-in with Mustangs and 57 Chevys, but a display where you'll see restored 1930's automobiles. Once you see such a car with the radio installed, it all comes together. Also, thinking in today's technology, one wonders why the radio was so big in the first place -- why couldn't it be mounted in the dash? Probably the biggest hindrance was the tuning condenser -- it wasn't easy to build a radio around this big 3-section tuner, while keeping it compact enough to fit inside the dash -- without it taking up the whole dash. Some did -- the radio was installed in place of the glove compartment. A few, such as the 37 Buick, managed to get it all in one piece. However the in-dash radio didn't become practical until some smart guy did away with the condenser and used coil slugs to do the tuning (permeability tuning). Around the same time, the IF was moved from 455kHz to 262kHz. This greatly improved hetrodyne interference when two or more radios were in proximity to each other (picture several cars sitting at a traffic light). Before long the pushbutton/treadle/coil tuner design became a standard for many years, replaced only by the digital tuners of the 80's. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "The Philco Guy" wrote in message news:1141810523.347851.126100@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > These old car radios from the '30s like this one > http://www.atwaterkentradio.com/ak666.htm I'm a bit confused about. I > know the control unit goes in the steering wheel or dash, but where the > heck does the radio itself go? > > and can anybody direct me to any info and pictures of 1940's car radios? > Article: 331031 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Vintage component stereo Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:19:02 GMT I've brought up this subject before, but I'm sure it will create a fair amount of discussion: My house is being remodeled, including much of the furniture. I'd like to replace the stereo cabinet, and possibly the stereo receiver itself, which is more suited to TV surround than playing records. But what to replace it with? I can't help but think back to that Fisher stereo I once had. It had two tuning knobs for AM and FM, had two tuning eyes, and had dual concentric controls for treble, bass, volume, etc. It was about 1961-62 with all tubes, with a tube type power amp that sat elsewhere out of sight. The best part was that it was a great stereo, and was a beautiful gold color with burgundy knobs and trim. Whether I'll ever find that same exact model is unknown. Whether it will be a good one today is debatable (did it have loudness? Were there any FM MPX interference problems?). Of course there are plenty of later stereos, particularly of the 70's, that are really nice -- but I don't care about the brushed aluminum look of the 70's. So what I'm asking is, what was a really good stereo receiver of the early 60's? What would look really good, perform well, attract attention as a conversation piece, and have the features I want? The features, by the way, are easy enough -- tape monitor, turntable, CD player (aux), FM stereo, and loudness preferred. Are there some Scott, Marantz, H-K, or other units that have that gold/burgundy finish? If you were doing this, what would you look for? Surfing the internet, I've seen where the Fisher 500C appears to be a good one. Comments? By the way, if one can be had for $50, that's wwonderful; if there's one for $800 that's what I want, that's also fine, but what I'm NOT interested in is something with deep scratches, broken dial glass, one channel dead, needs a recap, etc. -- I want to use it, not restore it. Once this is done, next step may be another turntable. With the Fisher I had a Collaro Continental -- it was a good looking turntable, but a bit brutal by today's standards. Maybe a Dual . . . Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 331032 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: OT: 2002 Chevy Blazer CD problems. Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:21:59 GMT Mine's acting stupid. Forgetting where it is, stopping and starting. Contact me off list. Thanks Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331033 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is she pissed! From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <120smkft7m3bod3@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:23:06 GMT In article <120smkft7m3bod3@corp.supernews.com>, exray@coqui.net says... > > >Nowadays I could talk to Granny 8 hours a day every day of >the month for $29.95. Nothing about the merger suggests that I won't be >able to do so in the future. > > >-ex I wonder what the effect is going to be on ISP business when more places begin to operate on Free Wi-Fi for the WHOLE TOWN ... Kissimee, FL is doing just that.... the town decided that... for a sum of about 400K that it could install whole town wireless hispeed internet.. and it is FREE to all residents... or anyone else that happens to be there... Their reason for doing this?... Well year one the install yes it was 400K but after that they anticipate an annual cost of 40K ... the residents of that town are currently spending about 400K for internet access... Kissimee thinks that since the residents won't have to spend a dime for internet connection that they will spend most of that 400K within the town of Kissimee.... groceries, restraunts, fixing up your house whatever... that money will instead go to local businesses ... rather than being shipped off to many different ISP's ... Wonder if that whole bit will begin to take hold all across the country? That will sure upset "You Got Mails" operation and all the rest of them! John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331034 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Wanted Philco 38-116 From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <27679-440E51EC-1643@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <1FDPf.61005$g47.54424@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:30:53 GMT In article <27679-440E51EC-1643@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net>, goodguyy@webtv.net says... > > >Hay john how about a lovely transoceanic for the nice guy :-) > Hi Ken ... I stayed out of the Trash the TO thread .... I would just add more fuel to the fire.. as I really do NOT like working on those critters.. Yes we do restorations on them.. but I always stick my part time guy with the recap job on them!... Hate Working on them myself!.... Am sure that I got rid of the last one I had last fall in the FleaBay Clearing of the garage... and hope I don't get anymore of them! John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331035 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rick" References: <120smkft7m3bod3@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is she pissed! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:35:53 GMT "John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird" wrote in message news:KxDPf.61004$g47.14681@tornado.tampabay.rr.com... > In article <120smkft7m3bod3@corp.supernews.com>, exray@coqui.net says... > > > > > >Nowadays I could talk to Granny 8 hours a day every day of > >the month for $29.95. Nothing about the merger suggests that I won't be > >able to do so in the future. > > > > > >-ex > > I wonder what the effect is going to be on ISP business when more places > begin to operate on Free Wi-Fi for the WHOLE TOWN ... > > Kissimee, FL is doing just that.... the town decided that... for a sum > of about 400K that it could install whole town wireless hispeed > internet.. and it is FREE to all residents... or anyone else that happens > to be there... > > Their reason for doing this?... Well year one the install yes it was 400K > but after that they anticipate an annual cost of 40K ... the residents > of that town are currently spending about 400K for internet access... > > Kissimee thinks that since the residents won't have to spend a dime > for internet connection that they will spend most of that 400K within > the town of Kissimee.... groceries, restraunts, fixing up your house > whatever... that money will instead go to local businesses ... rather > than being shipped off to many different ISP's ... > > Wonder if that whole bit will begin to take hold all across the country? > > That will sure upset "You Got Mails" operation and all the rest of > them! > > John k9uwa /w4 I recall Oakland County here in Michigan is doing the same thing, supposed to be done by 2007... > Article: 331036 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1141808607.486042.195870@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Identify This Radio? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:36:34 GMT "The Philco Guy" wrote in message news:1141808607.486042.195870@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > Can anyone idenify this Philco's model model and date? > http://cgi.ebay.com/Beautiful-working-prewar-Philco-wood-radio_W0QQitemZ6609089175QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > I don't recognize it. I just emailed the seller (igolioto) for more info. > and the manufacturer model and date of this one? > http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Radio-Phonograph-am-fm_W0QQitemZ6609805062QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > This one lists in the auction description the brand and model number. "Silvertone Catalog & Model # 8115D Chassies # 101.825-4 Late 40s early50s Tube Radio" It looks like it matches the picture of the model 8115 pictured in Sam's 62-18 from May of 1949 which does list chassis # 101.825-4 in the folder. jim menning Article: 331037 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) Subject: Re: Vintage component stereo Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 11:43:44 -0500 Message-ID: References: In article , "Gary Tayman" wrote: > So what I'm asking is, what was a really good stereo receiver of the early > 60's? What would look really good, perform well, attract attention as a > conversation piece, and have the features I want? The features, by the way, > are easy enough -- tape monitor, turntable, CD player (aux), FM stereo, and > loudness preferred. Are there some Scott, Marantz, H-K, or other units that > have that gold/burgundy finish? If you were doing this, what would you look > for? Surfing the internet, I've seen where the Fisher 500C appears to be a > good one. Comments? > Hello, and perhaps a product(s) from the McIntosh Laboratory? Sincerely, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 Article: 331038 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1141812060.335839.247910@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Model # and year Message-ID: <4TDPf.14298$iR1.11064@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:45:52 GMT "The Philco Guy" wrote in message news:1141812060.335839.247910@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > Does anyone know the model number and date for this radio? > > http://antiqueradio.org/art/deltran.jpg > Looks like one of the same questions Phil has about his radio: http://antiqueradio.org/deltran.htm Looks like Phil had that picture borrowed by someone: http://www.hilberink.nl/tinternat.htm jim menning Article: 331039 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is she pissed! Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:46:11 -0400 Message-ID: <120u2ii7jf07t6d@corp.supernews.com> References: <120smkft7m3bod3@corp.supernews.com> John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird wrote: > In article <120smkft7m3bod3@corp.supernews.com>, exray@coqui.net says... > >> >>Nowadays I could talk to Granny 8 hours a day every day of >>the month for $29.95. Nothing about the merger suggests that I won't be >>able to do so in the future. >> >> >>-ex > > > I wonder what the effect is going to be on ISP business when more places > begin to operate on Free Wi-Fi for the WHOLE TOWN ... It's a sound investment for the town. They'll eventually sell it for big bux to an outfit that removes the FREE label. Enjoy it while it lasts. Its en vogue right now...it won't be if/when the town needs to use the fiscal cost-cutting scissors. I'm all in favor of things free but I'm leary of anything free from the government as it usually winds up costing double out of pocket...not to mention the privacy issues. -Bill Article: 331040 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Copper Screen Wire Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:50:17 -0400 Message-ID: <120u2q7tfmii9cc@corp.supernews.com> References: Bruce Mercer wrote: > Does anybody know where I can buy a small piece of copper screen wire for > use on the back of my Edison C-2 R/P combination? I need about a 2ft. x 3 > ft. piece. I can find it online but I don't need 75ft of the stuff. I'm > making a new back for the machine. > Thanks, > Bruce > > Try www.mcmaster.com "copper wire cloth". HTH, Bill Article: 331041 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "CLFE" References: <120smkft7m3bod3@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is she pissed! Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 11:55:21 -0500 Message-ID: <440f0c79$0$25075$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "Rick" wrote in message news:JJDPf.1718$sL2.1283@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net... > > "John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird" wrote in > message > news:KxDPf.61004$g47.14681@tornado.tampabay.rr.com... >> In article <120smkft7m3bod3@corp.supernews.com>, exray@coqui.net says... >> > >> > >> >Nowadays I could talk to Granny 8 hours a day every day of >> >the month for $29.95. Nothing about the merger suggests that I won't be >> >able to do so in the future. >> > >> > >> >-ex >> >> I wonder what the effect is going to be on ISP business when more places >> begin to operate on Free Wi-Fi for the WHOLE TOWN ... >> >> Kissimee, FL is doing just that.... the town decided that... for a sum >> of about 400K that it could install whole town wireless hispeed >> internet.. and it is FREE to all residents... or anyone else that happens >> to be there... >> >> Their reason for doing this?... Well year one the install yes it was 400K >> but after that they anticipate an annual cost of 40K ... the residents >> of that town are currently spending about 400K for internet access... >> >> Kissimee thinks that since the residents won't have to spend a dime >> for internet connection that they will spend most of that 400K within >> the town of Kissimee.... groceries, restraunts, fixing up your house >> whatever... that money will instead go to local businesses ... rather >> than being shipped off to many different ISP's ... >> >> Wonder if that whole bit will begin to take hold all across the country? >> >> That will sure upset "You Got Mails" operation and all the rest of >> them! >> >> John k9uwa /w4 > > I recall Oakland County here in Michigan is doing the same thing, supposed > to be done by > 2007... >> The idea sounds good, but I'm wondering if - when the ISPs start losing cash - and they will - they'll probably jack up the rates sky high. HOW? Well, suppose they offered Kissimee that for $400K as was mentioned. Suppose their client base before that - from the area - was bringing in a million. That is a hell of a drop in revenue. Maybe whoever the ISP is, doesn't know what Kissimee had in mind. Once they find out why the proceeds dropped WAY down - THERE is going to be some adjustments made - policy changes, rate increases, whatever. Some ISPs may fall to the way side. Like the phone companies, airfares, etc. Somehow - somewhere - the customer always gets screwed in the end, companies shut down due to loss of revenue, jobs lost, etc..... I don't know......... It will be interesting to see........ There is a WiFi network somewhere in my midst - maybe I should just drop my e-mail account - place everything to crappy Yahoo - and live free....... of ISP charges. Then comes internet security. IS WIFI safe for the masses to be placing credit card orders on and so on? I've heard pros and cons there. Just my 2 cents. Not enough to buy you a cup of coffee, but stop in and I'll give you a cup. clf Article: 331042 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Wanted Philco 38-116 From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <1141697606.000811.190230@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:32:06 GMT In article <1141697606.000811.190230@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, n9vu@yahoo.com says... > > >John, > >I have a version of this radio that needs restoration if you are >interested in this. It's the earlier model with manual dial. EMAIL me >if interested, n9vu at yahoo dot com. Thanks, Gary. > Yo Gary.... U fall off the earth someplace?... Emailed you a couple of days ago about your Philco .... yours must be the 37-116 with manual dial.... John k9uwa Article: 331043 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1141808607.486042.195870@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Identify This Radio? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 17:04:47 GMT "jim menning" wrote in message news:mKDPf.14296$iR1.5104@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "The Philco Guy" wrote in message > news:1141808607.486042.195870@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... >> Can anyone idenify this Philco's model model and date? >> http://cgi.ebay.com/Beautiful-working-prewar-Philco-wood-radio_W0QQitemZ6609089175QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >> > > > I don't recognize it. I just emailed the seller (igolioto) for more info. > > Model 42-340, from 1942. jim menning Article: 331044 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Copper Screen Wire Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 11:27:46 -0600 Message-ID: <17168-440F1412-8@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: MY LOCAL HARDWARE STORE SELLS IT, PROBABLY YOUR DOES TOO. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 331045 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <120smkft7m3bod3@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is she pissed! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 11:05:02 -0700 add tempe arizona and chandler arizona (coming soon) to the list of city wide wireless. not free but pretty nice I hear.... bob in phx "John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird" wrote in message news:KxDPf.61004$g47.14681@tornado.tampabay.rr.com... > In article <120smkft7m3bod3@corp.supernews.com>, exray@coqui.net says... >> >> >>Nowadays I could talk to Granny 8 hours a day every day of >>the month for $29.95. Nothing about the merger suggests that I won't be >>able to do so in the future. >> >> >>-ex > > I wonder what the effect is going to be on ISP business when more places > begin to operate on Free Wi-Fi for the WHOLE TOWN ... > > Kissimee, FL is doing just that.... the town decided that... for a sum > of about 400K that it could install whole town wireless hispeed > internet.. and it is FREE to all residents... or anyone else that happens > to be there... > > Their reason for doing this?... Well year one the install yes it was 400K > but after that they anticipate an annual cost of 40K ... the residents > of that town are currently spending about 400K for internet access... > > Kissimee thinks that since the residents won't have to spend a dime > for internet connection that they will spend most of that 400K within > the town of Kissimee.... groceries, restraunts, fixing up your house > whatever... that money will instead go to local businesses ... rather > than being shipped off to many different ISP's ... > > Wonder if that whole bit will begin to take hold all across the country? > > That will sure upset "You Got Mails" operation and all the rest of > them! > > John k9uwa /w4 > Article: 331046 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" References: <1141835149.714316.91440@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: San Diego are radio sites? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 10:09:29 -0800 Terry I live in the San Diego area and made two quick calls for you. The Antique Radio Store on Clairemont (Got an answering machine) is live and well with the odd hours posted on the web. I was there last year and he had lots of antiques for sale. Call when you arrive as he had some shorter hours on certain days in March. The Antique Radio and Audio Repair on Corvus has limited his service to repair -- sed nothing for sale and sed the store on Clairemont was the only game in town other than Thrift shops and pawn shops. I found a 1950's RCA AA5 at a thrift store for $5 like new cosmetically. Recapped it and replaced a few tubes -- works fine Enjoy your visit to SD and Happy shopping. -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "Terry S" wrote in message news:1141835149.714316.91440@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... >I have a week long training class coming up in Southern CA this month. > I'll be staying in San Diego. > > Any radio places I should visit? > > I've identified two, the , and Antique > Radio and Audio Repair on Corvus Place, both in San Diego. > > Can anyone verify these are both real places still? The Antique Radio > Store has a web site, looks like they are open a few hours during the > week. The proprietor would be well into his 80's. Place still there? > > Antique Radio and Audio Repair on Corvus belongs to a fellow by the > name of Mike Zuccaro. He's posted here before, but it's been over a > year. > > Any help out there? Any other place to visit? > > Terry. > Article: 331047 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "k35454" References: Subject: Re: Copper Screen Wire Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 11:10:18 -0800 "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:brWdnbDhCuBam5LZRVn-uA@sigecom.net... Does anybody know where I can buy a small piece of copper screen wire for use on the back of my Edison C-2 R/P combination? I need about a 2ft. x 3 ft. piece. I can find it online but I don't need 75ft of the stuff. I'm making a new back for the machine. Thanks, Bruce I use retinned garden screen wire from the Builders' Supply. k35454.. Article: 331048 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" References: <1141835149.714316.91440@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1141842021.107585.257870@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: San Diego are radio sites? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 11:14:01 -0800 Most welcome Local swap meet (Ham Radio and computers mostly) El Cajon ARC Swap Meet (aka Santee Swap Meet) 1st & 3rd Saturday of the Month At the Santee Drive-in Theater at 10990 Woodside Ave. off of Hiway 67. Talk in on 146.52. Buyers seventy-five cents. Sellers' Gates open 6:00 AM Buyer's Gates open 6:30 AM FOR INFORMATION CALL 449-SWAP -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "Terry S" wrote in message news:1141842021.107585.257870@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Thanks CL! That was above and beyond the call for certain. I appreciate > your effort. > > I see that there is some sort of swap meet on the 1st of April, the day > I'm leaving naturally. And my flight out is early. > > Terry. > Article: 331049 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Where have all the reconers gone? Message-ID: <1jGPf.10926$Tf3.4780@dukeread09> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 14:32:10 -0500 There used to be lots of guys that reconed speakers, but now it's hard to find ONE. Anyone else notice this? The only one I can contact is 'All Speaker Repair', in Oregon, on the other side of the US from Virginia. Anyone ever use them? Other services are dissapearing too, ARC business card ads are down to two pages. I guess all the old timers are dying off. Ken Article: 331050 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: 12 volt plate voltages References: <120sjq987n9j62d@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:06:05 GMT I wonder if that kit would work better with a 12U7? Might be fun to experiment. Scott Irvine wrote: > Dennis Daly wrote: >> "- exray -" wrote in message >> news:120sjq987n9j62d@corp.supernews.com... >> >>> Dennis Daly wrote: >>> >>>> "Scott Irvine" wrote in message >>>> news:rBQOf.597258$084.494266@attbi_s22... >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, I don't know if this has been asked before. How did they get plate >>>>> voltages to work at 12 volts which is such a lower voltage than other >>>>> tubes requiring 45-90 volts? I have a Radio Ace kit with a 12au7 tube >>>>> that only needs 12 volts total to work. Thanks for your help. >>>> >>>> >>>> Principle of Space charge. >>>> >>>> http://www.duntemann.com/12vtubes/12vtubesindex.htm >>>> >>>> Den >>>> >>>> >>> >>> 12AU7 in that circuit isn't working as a space-charge tube. Its simply >>> working at low voltage. >> >> >> You're right, ex- >> I didn't consider the last part of the question. >> >> Den >> >>> -ex >> >> >> > Yes that is the kit I have. I use to be on here a while ago and am > recently back. I missed that one. Scott Article: 331051 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Copper Screen Wire References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 22:34:29 GMT McMaster Carr. If they don't have something, you probably didn't need it anyway. For example, Part Number: 9224T177 http://www.mcmaster.com/ Or you can enter [ copper screen ] and search for what you want. Roughly $9.85/sq. ft. for the 36" wide, cut to length stuff. Jeff Bruce Mercer wrote: > Does anybody know where I can buy a small piece of copper screen wire for > use on the back of my Edison C-2 R/P combination? I need about a 2ft. x 3 > ft. piece. I can find it online but I don't need 75ft of the stuff. I'm > making a new back for the machine. > Thanks, > Bruce > > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331052 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Joe Farkas Subject: Re: All Zenith T.O. radios out of here Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 17:40:24 -0500 Message-ID: References: <23960-440CF640-1304@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> <1141749922.996307.219380@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1j6s029hi7gl7ubif6i03fo1ch7bggtiq6@4ax.com> <1141829435.101875.320160@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 8 Mar 2006 06:50:35 -0800, "Peter Wieck" wrote: >http://radioatticarchives.com/images/s/Stromberg_Carlson_AWP-8_Straight.jpg > >http://radioatticarchives.com/images/a/Airline_GSL1079A_Straight.jpg > >http://radioatticarchives.com/images/s/Silvertone_7224_(1956)_GCTR.jpg > >http://radioatticarchives.com/images/m/Minerva_Tropic_Master_(1945)_Tardi.jpg > >With thanks to Radio Attic. > >Now, in my opinion, the AWP is the most impressive of the clones, >complete with thermometer & barometer, as well as two speakers and >built like a tank. The next two, they are straight knock-offs, simple, >functional, and far less complex than the T/O. I have left off the >obvious (Hallicrafters & RCA), I am searching for a picture of the >Capehart (and also for an example of the radio itself), and the Fada is >on the Binaries. > >The Minerva is a rarity. I am looking for one of those, too. > >I can send you pictures of my clones if you wish. > >Peter Wieck >Wyncote, PA Is the Capehart a copy of the TW2000 with the added "weather tools"? (Barometer and thermometer) I recall seeing one, nice condition, but owner was asking $200 several years ago. I passed. From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Sat Mar 11 23:47:36 EST 2006 Article: 331053 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Where have all the reconers gone? Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 14:55:31 -0800 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <120uo76l97mi58e@corp.supernews.com> References: <1jGPf.10926$Tf3.4780@dukeread09> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 18 Path: news0.isis.unc.edu!news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!sn-xt-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:331053 "Ken" wrote in message news:1jGPf.10926$Tf3.4780@dukeread09... > There used to be lots of guys that reconed speakers, but now it's hard to > find ONE. Anyone else notice this? The only one I can contact is > 'All Speaker Repair', in Oregon, on the other side of the US from > Virginia. Anyone ever use them? Other services are dissapearing too, ARC > business card ads are down to two pages. I guess all the old timers are > dying off. Ken > Where are you located? There is a good one in Seattle called "Around-The-Sound". This guy has been doing strickly recones for the last 30 years! -DA Article: 331054 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: Subject: Re: Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is she pissed! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 17:48:40 -0500 So, the shareholders are getting ready to sell the entire mess to a group of Saudi investors. Hey, worked for the US ports, right? ps: but what has all this to do with the price of bread in Poughkeepsie, or even radios, for that matter...? Article: 331055 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: 2002 Chevy Blazer CD problems. From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:03:55 GMT In article , jangus@socal.rr.com says... > > >Mine's acting stupid. Forgetting where it is, stopping and starting. >Contact me off list. > >Thanks > >Jeff You have committed a major No NO NO Jeff.... you have been running home made CD's on this radio.... and that is a serious NO NO NO... no cure for it other than to replace the radio... and if you install another factory radio.... and run homemade CD's on it... same thing will happen to it.... wanna run the homemade stuff... get a new radio.... aftermarket one... The above is direct from a radio collector buddy... that works for GM ... and has a new S-10 truck... well about a year old now... killed three radios in it... warrantied of course ... last time in he talked to the guy about why it pooped ... after discussion and Jerry admitting he ran home made CD's on it.... thats what the techs told him.. John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331056 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <1141799673.987340.259610@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Nice radio Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 17:50:31 -0500 Yes, I'm sure it is! Say, if you see any other radios on ebaY, will you please post links to them? Nobody here reads that site. Article: 331057 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Why won't people ship to Canada? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <%nvMf.75890$B94.40075@pd7tw3no> <4XWOf.477297$0l5.388209@dukeread06> Message-ID: <2BJPf.62937$Fw6.20633@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:16:14 GMT In article , maxbud12@XXXsigecom.net says... > > >I've shipped all over the world with no problem, especially Canada. Although >DON'T use ground as you may be too old to use whatever it is by the time it >arrives. :-) The only trouble I've had is with a couple BUYERS from foreign >lands and John G. is welcome to every single one of those that come across >my path. ;-) > >Bruce > > OK ... I'll come out of the weeds on that one!... Yup the Furrin' buyers bucks are larger than the USA guys bucks... otherwise they wouldn't win the auctions in your talking about fleabay. Canada Experiences.... its NOT the USA postoffice and its NOT the Canadian PO they operate very nicely.... its the blasted Canadian Customs Office that holds the boxes forever it seems. Usually just about the time you have waited your 30+ days to go file the lost package insurance claim and begin the long process of that bit.... the box will majically appear ... only country I know of slower in customs than Canada is Brazil .... those guys you could take a summer off before starting to look for your box.. finally it will arrive... 8 to 10 weeks is NORMAL for them... I had writers cramps last fall from filling out all those customs forms and insurance etc... will I do it again?... Yes this next fall when I once again fleabay seriously... Have to get my winter stash of money for our trips from someplace.. might as well be the foreigners that want the goodies... Oh ... Duty into Brazil? ... 30% of the insured amount PLUS the shipping... yup they add the shipping cost to the insured amount and thats what the poor sap on that end has to pay to get his package... John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331058 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: Where have all the reconers gone? References: <1jGPf.10926$Tf3.4780@dukeread09> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:45:49 -0500 Ken wrote: > There used to be lots of guys that reconed speakers, but now it's hard > to find ONE. Anyone else notice this? The only one I can contact is > 'All Speaker Repair', in Oregon, on the other side of the US from > Virginia. Anyone ever use them? Other services are dissapearing too, ARC > business card ads are down to two pages. I guess all the old timers are > dying off. Ken > Anybody know where Syl has gone? He still recones speakers. I bought one off him, and he did an Excellent job! Article: 331059 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <440F71BD.6F42644F@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: More idiotic spam from someone too damn stupid to operate the caps lock References: <1141830558.296950.304780@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 00:08:06 GMT "Ricky & Joelle White- Johnstown, Pa.-Atlantic Broadband Employee" wrote: PLONK! -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331060 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <440F711F.462D8302@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: OT: Help with batch file References: <1141745121.696326.294920@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <27679-440E585E-1648@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> <1141832335.854792.41560@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <3YSdneFnXaHQnpLZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@adelphia.com> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 00:05:28 GMT Roger D Johnson wrote: > > I need someone with Windows experience to help me with a > batch file to modify the registry on the fly. Please reply > directly. > > Thanks, Roger Take a look at "Brute Force Uninstaller". -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331061 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Where have all the reconers gone? References: <1jGPf.10926$Tf3.4780@dukeread09> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 19:14:39 -0500 Mark, there is no speaker cone left, nada, and the coil scrapes. Are you going to give a speaker class at Charlotte? If so, I'll see you there. I have transplanted a cone before, but it wasn't satisfactory. Ken Mark Oppat wrote: > There are still lots of them, but most only do musical instrument speakers. > The ones I know doing radio speakers include: > Rich Stamer, > Sound Remedy > 331 Virginia Ave > Haddon Twp, NJ zip code > Phone: (856) 869-0238 > > Also, Ron McGee > Jackson Speaker service > 217 Crestbrook Dr > Jackson, MI 49203 > 517- 789-6400 > 517-789-8412. > > NOW, remember, most damaged speakers can be well repaired in the shop at > home. You can glue up any tears with GC "Service Cement" or any similar > fairly fast setting glue rated for paper. Duco Cement will work too. Use > these in the cone area, not the surround. Use rubber cement or contact > cement there. > You can coat whole cones with the GC Service Cement, it'll soak into the > paper and strengthen it. Especially good idea on small radios where the > heat bakes the paper. You can save many cones doing that. > > Use manilla business envelope paper to patch holes. You can color it with > marker... or, buy the grey color ones at the office supply. Or, some > stationary paper is heavy enough too. > > HINT: work from the inside out on the cone. The inside is more stable. > > There are many other tips , I give them at my service seminars and will have > them on my website in the future too. > > Mark Oppat > > > "Ken" wrote in message > news:1jGPf.10926$Tf3.4780@dukeread09... > >>There used to be lots of guys that reconed speakers, but now it's hard >>to find ONE. Anyone else notice this? The only one I can contact is >>'All Speaker Repair', in Oregon, on the other side of the US from >>Virginia. Anyone ever use them? Other services are dissapearing too, ARC >>business card ads are down to two pages. I guess all the old timers are >>dying off. Ken >> >> > > > > Article: 331062 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Where have all the reconers gone? References: <1jGPf.10926$Tf3.4780@dukeread09> Message-ID: <8tKPf.10957$Tf3.4566@dukeread09> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 19:16:01 -0500 He does a great job on phono carts., didn't know he reconed. Ken Ken Scharf wrote: > Ken wrote: > >>There used to be lots of guys that reconed speakers, but now it's hard >>to find ONE. Anyone else notice this? The only one I can contact is >>'All Speaker Repair', in Oregon, on the other side of the US from >>Virginia. Anyone ever use them? Other services are dissapearing too, ARC >>business c