Article: 331556 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: Zenith Push Button Knob 5R312 References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 07:41:03 -0700 Larry Bordonaro has the mold. Too bad your email doesn't work. Bill Jeffrey ===================== Verne Folk wrote: > Guys & Gals: In the process of redoing this ratio I misplaced, lost, whatever > one ivory push button for this unit (5R312)dah! Anyone out there have a spare? I > have many other Zenith knobs (no woodies) for trade or will buy outright. Let me > know price and shipping to 16002. verne > > Article: 331557 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1142778733.919243.111620@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 50A1 -- which TOs used? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 09:51:31 -0500 "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1142778733.919243.111620@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > The entire 600 series, the entire Mil.Spec. series and the latter 500s. > My guess on the 500s is perhaps 0.4-0.8% of total production during the > model-change. That would still be ~1000-2000 radios. > > Also SC, Hallicrafters & RCA models used the 50A1for sure. Others may > have. > > Peter Wieck > Thanks Peter I vaguely remember my dad's old H500 having the 50A1, and was never aware that it was a rarity for that model! Pete Article: 331558 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1142774441.924347.163830@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1142780467.999167.7370@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Recapping Around Bakelite Blocks Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:11:20 -0500 "Brian" wrote in message news:1142780467.999167.7370@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... > Just a couple days ago I encountered my first Bakelite block in a > 40-155. It had a pair of .01s and was wired across the line. I > installed a tie point under the mounting bolt and wired around it, > thinking I didn't want a leaky cap to explode. > > Are these Philco blocks any more long-lived than ordinary paper caps > due to the special processing mentioned in the reference? > > Brian > They are worse, from my experiences. The tar usually didn't completely flow around the capacitor bodies, leaving air gaps between the caps and the shells. If the boats are that much of a bother, I'd suggest removing them and replacing them with terminal strips. Terminal strips really open the chassis space up, compared to the bulky blocks. I've done it on sets that were missing the orignal blocks. But, it really isn't that hard to warm them and remove the innards in a few easy steps. The process has been described here numerous times before. Peter k1zjh Article: 331559 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Upstate NY Radio aucion follow-up Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:13:11 -0500 "Jon" wrote in message news:cocTf.24080$jf2.1902@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > It was quite a turn out at the radio and ugly furniture auction this > weekend. I came home with only 1 item, but keep kicking myself for not > bidding on more. There were approximately 260 radio lots up for auction, > some containing multiple radios or bidder's choice. Most of the radios were > unrestored, but complete and with a good finish with the exception of normal > wear) > Now, it will be fun to see how many of those sets show on eBay in the next few weeks! Pete Article: 331560 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FA: 78rpm LP's-singles-70+ disks-1900-50 era-CHEAP- Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 07:23:04 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1142640057.382977.301760@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142690886.092732.187720@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:15:38 -0500, "Syl" wrote: >"Terry S" wrote in message >news:1142690886.092732.187720@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >> Dick head. You are truly an asshole. > >From Google, a list of the ng that he spams. Posting from IP:216.222.235.1 > >http://groups.google.ca/groups?q=winchester1886%40hotmail.com&start=0&scoring=d&hl=fr& > >Send an abuse@Google, @Hotmail and @eBay and his ISP if you want to get rid >of him... > >Syl > Article: 331561 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Antique Radio Auction - Upstate NY Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:29:28 -0500 Message-ID: <121qu6p6qdin245@corp.supernews.com> References: <121qic4nctt35ac@corp.supernews.com> <9ycTf.24081$jf2.19894@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Delay? It was just yesterday :) Thanks! Article: 331562 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FA: 78rpm LP's-singles-70+ disks-1900-50 era-CHEAP- Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 07:44:05 -0800 Message-ID: <1tuq12do94h9q5agbljrdhnb0h2jp05mk3@4ax.com> References: <1142640057.382977.301760@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142749172.938650.300800@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1142775675.368709.201490@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On 19 Mar 2006 05:41:15 -0800, "Hand of Doom" wrote: >Steven, > >what he failed to tell you is, his own Ebay account was just >permanently suspended 3 days ago, for auction interference and seller >harassment- which he's been doing for 2 years now on the net- many >infractions. Another Charlie Nudo lie. > >one was buying 8 items for a penny each, just to leave the seller 8 >negatives fb's all at once, on Ebay Well deserved. > >tell him "DYOFDW"- the guy is obsessed and a control freak No, he wants you to tell me that because he's under considerable pressure now. He was being good for about two days after getting his 66fourdoor account suspended and restored, then started in with the illegal spam again. Now, GC Electronics' legal counsel has been apprised of his fraud actions on eBay. Way to go, Noodles. You just dug yourself a big, big hole....and you're going into it. Cute that you had someone else's eBay account suspended...not that it matters a WHIT. What matters is, you're going down...hard...soon. Article: 331563 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FA: 78rpm LP's-singles-70+ disks-1900-50 era-CHEAP- Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 07:45:08 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1142640057.382977.301760@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142749172.938650.300800@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1142776008.978470.224970@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On 19 Mar 2006 05:46:49 -0800, "Hand of Doom" wrote: >interesting- the guy is a control freak- notice how he "plonks" one of >your posts, then replies to the next one > >we are talking one sick ticket here More projection from a paranoid delusional thief and fraudster. Don't forget, Noodles...I can plonk your ass anytime I feel like it. You can't do the same to me. Article: 331564 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stephen Wild" References: <1142774441.924347.163830@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1142780467.999167.7370@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Recapping Around Bakelite Blocks Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:54:18 -0500 Not to my knowldge. They made it more difficult for third party service, and also gave convenient extra tie point for wiring. That is about all. My experiences with Philco radios is that they are very difficult to work on, and these caps are part of the reason. "Brian" wrote in message news:1142780467.999167.7370@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... > Just a couple days ago I encountered my first Bakelite block in a > 40-155. It had a pair of .01s and was wired across the line. I > installed a tie point under the mounting bolt and wired around it, > thinking I didn't want a leaky cap to explode. > > Are these Philco blocks any more long-lived than ordinary paper caps > due to the special processing mentioned in the reference? > > Brian > Article: 331565 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Another Cheap High End Zenith- Long Island, NY Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:55:43 -0500 Message-ID: <121qvo0m2h56pf5@corp.supernews.com> http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Zenith-Tube-Radio_W0QQitemZ6613488412 John H. Article: 331566 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Recapping Around Bakelite Blocks References: <1142774441.924347.163830@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <7wfTf.14031$Tf3.5618@dukeread09> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 11:19:08 -0500 STUPID. I use a knife to cut out the tar, leavs a clean shell. Melting the tar causes lots of cleanup problems. I draw a diagram of what is connected to the terminals, unsolder and remove the block and clean it. Makes for a much neater job. The first thing I think of when I see the blocks removed is 'some clutz has been in here with no knowledge of what they're doing, or are too lazy to do the job right'. Makes me wonder about the rest of the restoration. Since the set is being restored and will be around for another 20-30 years, and probably will be worth more then, why not keep it as original as possible? Ken RadioGary wrote: > Maybe this question is simple or stupid, but is there a way to recap > around a bakelite > block inside old Philco's? I've seen a photo of one such set and it > doesn't look all that > bad. For those who choose not to pull them apart, this could be the > trick. From what I can see you have to find a schematic on what's > inside the block, trace the terminal strip, and just install your new > cap on top of it ?? Appreciate any help, advice, and feedback. > Article: 331567 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1142774441.924347.163830@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7wfTf.14031$Tf3.5618@dukeread09> Subject: Re: Recapping Around Bakelite Blocks Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 11:31:12 -0500 "Ken" wrote in message news:7wfTf.14031$Tf3.5618@dukeread09... > STUPID. I use a knife to cut out the tar, leavs a clean shell. Melting > the tar causes lots of cleanup problems. I draw a diagram of what is > connected to the terminals, unsolder and remove the block and clean it. > Makes for a much neater job. The first thing I think of when I see the > blocks removed is 'some clutz has been in here with no knowledge of what > they're doing, or are too lazy to do the job right'. Makes me wonder > about the rest of the restoration. Since the set is being restored and > will be around for another 20-30 years, and probably will be worth more > then, why not keep it as original as possible? Ken > > That's a lot of labor. I simply gently heat them in place, and push the tar to the chassis using a 1/32" drift punch. The blocks are then unscrewed, and can be twisted at least 90 degrees without the need to unsolder anything. No fuss, no mess, and an easy recap using radial lead NTE caps. The outside of the block can be wiped with alcohol to clean any dirt or residue. Pete Article: 331568 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FA: 78rpm LP's-singles-70+ disks-1900-50 era-CHEAP- Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:50:45 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1142640057.382977.301760@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142690886.092732.187720@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1142705318.703423.116340@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1142749719.785365.113350@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1142750416.952869.151070@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1142786056.442940.220500@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 19 Mar 2006 08:34:16 -0800, "Hand of Doom" wrote: >the odd part is, he's from California, yet is obsessed with goings on >in Pa. ? > >that's quite a distance > >he must think Ca. laws and attitudes suddenly rule the entire USA > >little does he know, he's in the minority Fraud is fraud in all 50 states in in the Federal jurisdiction....asshat. And, as you'll soon find out, you're quite guilty of fraud. The spamming complaints are just violations of ToS of various service providers. But the kind of fraud you've been indulging in over the past 18 months may rise to the level of a felony. Enjoy the ride...down. Article: 331569 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Upstate NY Radio aucion follow-up From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: <%4gTf.82334$Fw6.8230@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:58:35 GMT In article , jon@NOscapturaSPAM.com says... > > >-- >Jon Scaptura sure hope the one U bought was the Silvertone TOmbstone with the eyetube in it... looked at your list. Of the silvertones listed... none of them over 40 bucks... that would be a steal on that radio. Lots of other good buys also.. good thing I wasn't there.. or I would have another Van Load of stuff.... bunch of the prices pretty cheap.. John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331570 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Recapping Around Bakelite Blocks From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <1142774441.924347.163830@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7wfTf.14031$Tf3.5618@dukeread09> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:50:38 GMT In article <7wfTf.14031$Tf3.5618@dukeread09>, wklwns@cox.net says... > > >STUPID. I use a knife to cut out the tar, leavs a clean shell. Melting >the tar causes lots of cleanup problems. I draw a diagram of what is >connected to the terminals, unsolder and remove the block and clean it. >Makes for a much neater job. The first thing I think of when I see the >blocks removed is 'some clutz has been in here with no knowledge of what >they're doing, or are too lazy to do the job right'. Makes me wonder >about the rest of the restoration. Since the set is being restored and >will be around for another 20-30 years, and probably will be worth more >then, why not keep it as original as possible? Ken > DITTO WHAT KEN SAID ... only I use a screwdriver to dig the stuff out of the old blocks... and like Peter said.... never ...well almost never have to unsolder a thing .... I would bet that Ken, Peter and Myself... any of us could gut one of those things and put in the new parts in LESS TIME than it takes you to figure out how to mount a terminal strip and move the wires etc... IT JUST ISN'T THAT HARD TO DO THEM RIGHT... John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331571 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <%4gTf.82334$Fw6.8230@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Subject: Re: Upstate NY Radio aucion follow-up Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:10:08 GMT That was the model 1994 that went for $200. Jon "John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird" wrote in message news:%4gTf.82334$Fw6.8230@tornado.tampabay.rr.com... > In article , > jon@NOscapturaSPAM.com > says... >> >> >>-- >>Jon Scaptura > > > sure hope the one U bought was the Silvertone TOmbstone with the eyetube > in it... looked at your list. Of the silvertones listed... none of them > over 40 bucks... that would be a steal on that radio. Lots of other good > buys also.. good thing I wasn't there.. or I would have another Van Load > of stuff.... bunch of the prices pretty cheap.. > John k9uwa /w4 > Article: 331572 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Joe Farkas Subject: Re: Upstate NY Radio aucion follow-up Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:40:01 -0500 Message-ID: References: On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:46:00 GMT, "Jon" wrote: >It was quite a turn out at the radio and ugly furniture auction this >weekend. I came home with only 1 item, but keep kicking myself for not >bidding on more. There were approximately 260 radio lots up for auction, >some containing multiple radios or bidder's choice. Most of the radios were >unrestored, but complete and with a good finish with the exception of normal >wear) > >Did anyone else from the newsgroup go? > >Here's the radio highlights: (Catalog descriptions - I didn't confirm makes >or model nos.) (ever 10 lots were radios, the other lots were furniture) > >1. Zenith G-503 - $10 >2. Crosley 667-C - 40 >3. Zenith TO A600 - 35 etc, etc... I hope that when I go, the wife gets better $ than these... a lot of familiar models. Must have been like a kid in a candy shop. Article: 331573 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: Subject: Re: Upstate NY Radio aucion follow-up Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:57:01 GMT Joe Farkas wrote in message > > I hope that when I go, the wife gets better $ than these... a lot of > familiar models. Must have been like a kid in a candy shop. > Then don't have them sold at a general auction for the public. Have someone take them to an auction that's part of an antique radio conference. There you'll find hundreds of collectors with pockets full of money looking for radios to buy and other collectors to bid against them. The average might well have been double the sale amount at a radio show auction. Ron www.cc-awa.org Article: 331574 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Chinese radio pictures Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 13:11:24 -0500 Message-ID: <121r7mdthn40o6a@news.supernews.com> References: <1142755065.585622.200980@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> "This listing (#6613881323) has been removed or is no longer available. Please make sure you entered the right item number." Article: 331575 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "radionutz" Subject: OT? my web site Message-ID: <6qhTf.14771$S25.13475@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:29:22 GMT Hi; been quite awhile since I have been here but had some difficulty and this may be a little off topic but it does concern my radio web site. I have some sound bites on a couple of my pages . I use IE as my browser and all is well there but, when I try to use netscape to view my site I can' get the sound. I did it in HTML and use the BGSOUND for IE and the EMBED tag for netscape but it still doesn't work there. If anyone has any suggestions as to what I may be doing wrong you can get back to me off-list at: dmign at earthlink dot net. THANKS, DON -- Check out my web site at: www.home.earthlink.net/~dmign/index.htm Article: 331576 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <6qhTf.14771$S25.13475@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: OT? my web site Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:18:47 -0500 "radionutz" wrote in message news:6qhTf.14771$S25.13475@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > Hi; > been quite awhile since I have been here but had some difficulty and this > may be a little off topic but it does concern my radio web site. > I have some sound bites on a couple of my pages . I use IE as my browser > and all is well there but, when I try to use netscape to view my site I > can' get the sound. > I did it in HTML and use the BGSOUND for IE and the EMBED tag for netscape > but it still doesn't work there. > If anyone has any suggestions as to what I may be doing wrong you can get > back to me off-list at: dmign at earthlink dot net. > > THANKS, DON > > -- > Check out my web site at: > > www.home.earthlink.net/~dmign/index.htm Works fine here either using IE and Firefox. Syl Article: 331577 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Upstate NY Radio aucion follow-up References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:03:45 GMT As Ron says this was a little known auction place out in the middle of nowhere. I didn't buy anything but was in the area and wanted to see what the bidding would be like. There were some good deals for a new collector. Most of the tubes looked to be TV type. Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: > Joe Farkas wrote in message >> I hope that when I go, the wife gets better $ than these... a lot of >> familiar models. Must have been like a kid in a candy shop. >> > > Then don't have them sold at a general auction for the public. > Have someone take them to an auction that's part of an > antique radio conference. There you'll find hundreds of > collectors with pockets full of money looking for radios to buy > and other collectors to bid against them. > The average might well have been double the sale amount > at a radio show auction. > > Ron > www.cc-awa.org > > > Article: 331578 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Upstate NY Radio aucion follow-up References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:11:13 GMT Hi Jon, wish I could have met you there. I was visiting right over the border in PA so I dropped in. There were some nice deals there. Most radios were in restorable condition as you noted. I didn't buy anything, got too much stuff here now. I wanted to bid on the Hickok 533A but it went for $160, not a bad price but more than I wanted to spend. It was good of you to record all those prices. I left after about an hour and a half but wish I could have stayed. How did those big racks of tubes on the back wall do? They were mostly TV types from what I could see. I took a few pics that I will post on the binaries. Jon wrote: > It was quite a turn out at the radio and ugly furniture auction this > weekend. I came home with only 1 item, but keep kicking myself for not > bidding on more. There were approximately 260 radio lots up for auction, > some containing multiple radios or bidder's choice. Most of the radios were > unrestored, but complete and with a good finish with the exception of normal > wear) > > Did anyone else from the newsgroup go? > > Here's the radio highlights: (Catalog descriptions - I didn't confirm makes > or model nos.) (ever 10 lots were radios, the other lots were furniture) > > 1. Zenith G-503 - $10 > 2. Crosley 667-C - 40 > 3. Zenith TO A600 - 35 > 4. Jewel Clock/radio - 10 > 5. RCA 65X1 - 20 > 6. Stewart Warner 51T136 - 10 > 7. TeleTone 138 - 20 > 8. US Apex cathedral (model unk) - 125 > 9. RCA 45X11 - 30 > 10. Sentinel clock - 10 > 21. GE E/50 - 40 > 22. Admiral tombstone - 40 > 23. Westinghouse H743T4 & H503T5B - 12.50 ea > 24. Zenith 7H820 - 35 > 25. Zenith Y724 - 20 > 26. Philco 71 - 175 > 27. Philco 41-230 - 40 > 28. Box of tubes - 40 > 29. Zenith H511 - 50 > 30. Philco 41-280 - 40 > 41. Pilot T601 - 45 > 42. RCA T7-5 - 110 > 43. Silvertone - 20 > 44. Silvertone - 45 > 45. Crosley clock/radio - 45 > 46. Crosley 56-TD-W - 85 > 47. Siemens 47 - 150 > 48. Philco 41-220 - 50 > 49. RCA green plastic - 35 > 50. General Motors 110-MA - 125 > 61. Books/catalogs/manuals - 45 > 62. GE 203 - 35 > 63. Philco 20 - 130 > 64. Emerson 504 - 45 > 65. RCA 303 - 10 > 66. Blue tubes - 45 > 67. Emerson series B - 35 > 68. Silvertone AT 448 - 40 > 69. Philco 38-12 - 50 > 70. Philco 37-650 - 60 > 81. Airline 62-336 - 40 > 82. FADA 252 - 50 > 83. RCA 100-A loudspeaker - 30 > 84. WE&M Testers - 20 > 85. Philco cathedral - 50 > 86. Arvin 664A - 50 > 87. Admiral - 5 > 88. Westinghouse H-126 - 70 > 89. Emerson - 30 > 90. Philco 41-280 - 100 > 101. Philco PT-87 - 30 > 102. RCA Victor turn table - 40 > 104. Box of tubes - 150 > 105. Hickock Tester 533A - 160 > 106. tube caddy / tubes - 35 > 108. tube caddy / tubes - 15 > 109. tube caddy - 60 > 110. GE A-67 - 90 > 121. General Radio precision capacitor - 30 > 122. box radios/headphones - 90 > 123. crate of tubes - 30 > 124. Zenith and Arvin radios - 10 for both > 125. Tester & Align-o-pak - 10 > 126. Tester - 5 > 127. tubes and books - 45 > 128. Mercury tester - 75 > 129. RCA radios (2) - 25 for both > 130. Radiola 20 AR-91 - 80 > 141. Sylvania tube caddy/tubes - 50 > 142. Zenith - 20 > 143. RCA - 25 > 144. Garod 6BU-1 - 50 > 145. Airline 1611 - 350 > 146. Emerson transistor - 20 > 147. Philco 1-221 - 40 > 148. GE 123 & Emerson 653 - 20 for both > 149. Stromberg Carlson 125-H - 55 > 150. Grunow 1191 - 125 > 161. Radiomatic Transat & GE 7 - 20 > 162. Zenith 6X627 - 150 > 163. Zenith H615 - 110 > 164. AK Speaker - 45 > 165. GE E-71 - 130 > 166. Airline 62-425 - 60 > 167. box 10 transistor radios - 50 for all > 168. Zenith 6-D-2615 - 60 > 169. Hallicrafters SX-28 - 300 > 170. RCA SHF-8 - 35 (I bought this one) > 181. Airline GRX-1089A - 25 > 182. NOS Phono needles (2 boxes) - 150 > 183. Webcor EN24-1 - 10 > 184. Tubes - 10 > 185. Phillips - 60 > 186. 4 Clock Radios - 45 for all > 187. 3 Zenith TO's (2 500's and a 600) - 50 each > 188. Heathkit GW-42 - 25 > 189. 2 RCA's - 30 each > 190. Philco 48-482 - 40 > 200. Microphone & 2 radios - 40 for box > 201. GE & RCA radio - 45 > 202. GE FM-41 (intercom) - 20 > 203. Traveler record player - 20 > 204. Zenith H503 - 25 > 205. Crosley Show Box - 30 > 206. Weston 440 - 35 > 207. AK 206 - 325 > 208. tubes - 30 > 209. meters - 20 > 210. Grunow 1191 - 125 > 221. Philco 46-1201 - 15 > 222. tubes - 70 > 223. RCA & Billy Korting radios - 35 for both > 224. Silverton & Philco radios - 35 for both > 225. 2 testers - 30 for both > 226. Crosley wooden tabletop - 150 > 227. Freshman Masterpiece - 100 > 228. Silvertone & kit radios - 40 for both > 229. AK 20 - 60 > 230. Philco 40-180 - 100 > 241. 2 turner microphones - 30 for both > 242. Zenith G7-25- 30 > 243. Crosley 56-TN-L - 40 > 244. Radiola Speaker 100 - 50 > 245. Zenith 5-S-127 - 250 > 246. Setchell Carlson 427 - - 25 > 247. Stromberg Carlson 400-H - 50 > 248. Philco 48-200 & 53-564 radios - 45 for both > 249. Fraser - 25 > 250. FADA 192A - 100 > 261. Stewart Warner 900 series - 45 > 262. RCA - 25 > 263. 2 Knight testers - 35 > 264. Midland, RCA and GE radios - 10 for all three > 265. Audio generator - 35 > 266. tester - 5 > 267. AC Dayton - 45 > 268. 2 plastic RCA, GE, Aircastle radios - 70 for all 4 > 269. Zenith portable - 25 > 270. Philco 42-1010 (with Philco changer) - 25 > 281. RCA tube caddy/tubes - 70 > 282. testers - 10 > 283. Geiger counter/parts - 70 > 284. wires/cables - 10 > 285. Philco radio/rp - 25 > 286. GE portable - 40 > 287. HeathKit receiver -Tepco mixer - 55 > 288. Projector - 10 > 289. Link aircraft radios - 35 > 290. Zenith 5-S-127 - 175 > 299. Zenith 6-S-239 - 200 > 301. Airline 62-976 - 100 > 302. Supreme 546 o-scope - 30 > 303. Silvertone 101.839 - 35 > 304. GLF F770 - 30 > 305. Crosley 257BP-11 - 70 > 306. Stromberg Carlson - 40 > 307. Crosley 10-135 cracked - 30 > 308. Zenith Universal canvas - 30 > 309. Radiola speaker UZ1325 - 130 > 310. Zenith console - 325 > 321. Zenith 5-S-29 - 350 > 322. Zenith 8-H-023 - 50 > 323. Majestic 6-T120 - 50 > 324. Triplet tester - 30 > 325. RCA - 25 > 326. 3 Zenith clock/radios - 25 > 327. Zenith G725 - 25 > 328. Philco 70 - 225 > 329. KLH 21 - 50 > 330. Grundig M1055W - 40 > 341. RCA - 30 > 342. GE L-633 - 80 > 343. Airline 15CB-1583 - 40 > 344. WATS Microphone Radio - 150 > 345. Silvertone 1994 - 200 > 346. Motorola 56X11 - 35 > 347. Philco 50-920 - 35 > 348. Philco Jr 80 - 60 > 350. Table speaker - 90 > 361. Tube caddy/tubes - 30 > 362. FADA 740 (cracked) & GE 201 - 70 for both > 363. radio booklets - 10 > 364. Hickock 600A - 250 > 365. Firestone car radio - 15 > 366. Silvertone 7036-A & Radiola 61-5 - 35 for both > 367. service manuals - 35 > 368. Sterling tester - 30 > 369. Airline 84BR-1053A - 10 > 370. Philco 37-610 - 70 > 381. RCA Radiola 17 - 60 > 382. Philco 60 - 80 > 383. Emerson & Philco radios - 50 for both > 384. Zenith Y-723 - 25 > 385. Airline 62-185 - 225 > 386. Silvertone plaster cone speaker - 25 > 387. Silvertone wire recorder - 30 > 388. 2 GE radios - 15 each > 390. Browning Drake - 100 > 401. Stewart Warner 01-521 - 75 > 402. Airline Global - 10 > 403. Zenith portable - 35 > 404. Silvertone C101 - 25 > 405. Minerva - 25 > 406. AK - 40 > 407. Zenith 5D-811 & H6-15ZP - 25 for both > 408. Brunswick speaker cabinet - 25 > 409. FADA 265-T - 90 > 410. Crosley - 72-CA - 25 > 421. Zenith G615-W - 10 > 422. Zenith - 30 > 423. GE 414 & Motorola 56X - 35 for both > 424. tubes - 30 > 425. Air Castle 607-315 - 10 > 426. GE 321 - 10 > 427. Precision 910 tube tester - 30 > 428. TV/Radio books - 45 > 429. box of radios: zenith x134, zenith, sharp, tru tone - 10 > 430. Firestone console - 60 > 441. GE tube caddy - 35 > 442. Tek 503 o-scope - 40 > 443. Crosley tombstone - 40 > 444. Eldorado 1120CW, Philco H834-124, Ross radios - 35 for box > 445. radio - needs work - 40 > 446. Philco 40-130 & GE 4215 - 60 > 447. 3 Cart machines - 35 > 448. Philco 60 (rough) - 40 > 449. APEX cathedral - 100 > 450. GE L-916 - 60 > 461. Grundig Majestic with RP - 25 > 462. Westinghouse cathedral - 95 > 463. Zenith console - 80 > 464. Philco 41-250 - 45 > 465. Philco 18 or 118 console - 60 > 466. Apex 73R - 90 > 467. Crosley 8H1? console - 60 > 468. Westinghouse WR-8 (rough) 40 > 469. Crosley Super XJ - 50 > 470. GE H31 - 10 > 481. Victor Electrola - 120 > 482. TVNE console - 25 > 483. Radiola 60 - 40 > 484. Grunow 1191 - 60 > 485. Majestic 96 - 150 > 486. RCA AR812 - 95 > 487. Zenith 10A1 - 35 > 488. Speaker Cabinet & empty console - 15 > 489. GE TV - 60 > 490. Stromberg Carlson D-2595 - 40 > > The rest of the radio lots were for boxes of tubes or bidder's choice of > basket case radios. > > > > Article: 331579 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: Upstate NY Radio aucion follow-up Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:20:12 GMT Middle of nowhere is an understatement. I grew up in Owego, so I'm used to being nowhere, and finding the middle of it. I've never been to a big radio meet, so this is as close as it gets for me. I'm kicking myself for not bidding on the Philco 42-1010. The cabinet was better than the one I picked up on the side of the road, and for $25 was a good deal. I'm also kicking myself for stopping bidding on the wire recorder at $25. The guy who bid $30 got it. Isn't Laurie (the auctioneer) a hoot? And who in their right mind would pay so much for those ugly "space" lamps? Jon "Lou deGonzague" wrote in message news:RGjTf.24811$jf2.24316@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > As Ron says this was a little known auction place out in the middle of > nowhere. I didn't buy anything but was in the area and wanted to see what > the bidding would be like. There were some good deals for a new collector. > Most of the tubes looked to be TV type. > > Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: >> Joe Farkas wrote in message >>> I hope that when I go, the wife gets better $ than these... a lot of >>> familiar models. Must have been like a kid in a candy shop. >>> >> >> Then don't have them sold at a general auction for the public. >> Have someone take them to an auction that's part of an >> antique radio conference. There you'll find hundreds of >> collectors with pockets full of money looking for radios to buy >> and other collectors to bid against them. >> The average might well have been double the sale amount >> at a radio show auction. >> >> Ron >> www.cc-awa.org >> >> Article: 331580 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" Subject: RCA Victor SHF-8 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:35:43 GMT What was the voltage rating on the electrolytic caps in the SHF-8 phono amplifier? The one I bought at the auction had some 160 volt replacements in there that are bulging. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery2/v/Antique_radios/ and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 331581 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Upstate NY Radio aucion follow-up References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:54:47 GMT Laurie was great, she made that old ugly furniture fun. Actually some of it was pretty cool. Did she take a break at some point? I was watching that Halli SX-28 and thought it might go higher than the $300 it brought. I was the guy hobbling around with the cane,just had knee surgery. That wire recorder was really neat looking as it also had a turntable. I wish I could have stayed to the end, I should have at least bought 1 item! Jon wrote: > Middle of nowhere is an understatement. I grew up in Owego, so I'm used to > being nowhere, and finding the middle of it. > I've never been to a big radio meet, so this is as close as it gets for me. > I'm kicking myself for not bidding on the Philco 42-1010. The cabinet was > better than the one I picked up on the side of the road, and for $25 was a > good deal. I'm also kicking myself for stopping bidding on the wire recorder > at $25. The guy who bid $30 got it. > > Isn't Laurie (the auctioneer) a hoot? And who in their right mind would pay > so much for those ugly "space" lamps? > > Jon > > > > "Lou deGonzague" wrote in message > news:RGjTf.24811$jf2.24316@twister.nyroc.rr.com... >> As Ron says this was a little known auction place out in the middle of >> nowhere. I didn't buy anything but was in the area and wanted to see what >> the bidding would be like. There were some good deals for a new collector. >> Most of the tubes looked to be TV type. >> >> Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: >>> Joe Farkas wrote in message >>>> I hope that when I go, the wife gets better $ than these... a lot of >>>> familiar models. Must have been like a kid in a candy shop. >>>> >>> Then don't have them sold at a general auction for the public. >>> Have someone take them to an auction that's part of an >>> antique radio conference. There you'll find hundreds of >>> collectors with pockets full of money looking for radios to buy >>> and other collectors to bid against them. >>> The average might well have been double the sale amount >>> at a radio show auction. >>> >>> Ron >>> www.cc-awa.org >>> >>> > From wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com Sun Mar 19 18:03:45 EST 2006 Article: 331582 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is she pissed! From: Wayne Boatwright References: <2813-441C52AC-1883@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: User-Agent: Xnews/2005.10.03 X-Face: '2=UjhX-y3vfeO94nyru(,e&{Lf^eJ&15S#rcuk:e{unjSRN4yZ69Z'ePMJsPO"6\s'iVZ0OZ>_ NNTP-Posting-Host: $$-cwgql-phn2p.newsgate.x-privat.org Date: 19 Mar 2006 23:07:56 +0100 Organization: X-Privat NNTP Server - http://www.x-privat.org Lines: 15 X-Complaints-To: abuse@x-privat.org Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.vt.edu!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!area.cu.mi.it!x-privat.org!newsgate.x-privat.org!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:331582 On Sat 18 Mar 2006 11:34:20a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it ? > It used to be Southern Bell here,,, years and years ago.Since the > breakup of the "Bells",,, they all went to h.ll,in my opinion. > cuhulin I agree. I was with Ohio Bell from 1976 thru 1992 and its change to Ameritech Services. What a mess! Before the divestiture in 1984, I thought the Bell System benefited greated from Bell Labs, et. al. -- Wayne Boatwright ożo ____________________ BIOYA Article: 331583 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: Upstate NY Radio aucion follow-up Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:12:28 GMT Actually, that particular wire recorder did not have a tonearm, but you could tell that it had the same take up reel and spindle as the model that did. There was a plastic insert where the tonearm would have been. Laurie went all the way to the very end this year. When I left around 7:30, she was doing the carts. Jon "Lou deGonzague" wrote in message news:HqkTf.11073$Da7.4005@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Laurie was great, she made that old ugly furniture fun. Actually some of > it was pretty cool. Did she take a break at some point? I was watching > that Halli SX-28 and thought it might go higher than the $300 it brought. > I was the guy hobbling around with the cane,just had knee surgery. That > wire recorder was really neat looking as it also had a turntable. I wish I > could have stayed to the end, I should have at least bought 1 item! > > Jon wrote: >> Middle of nowhere is an understatement. I grew up in Owego, so I'm used >> to being nowhere, and finding the middle of it. >> I've never been to a big radio meet, so this is as close as it gets for >> me. I'm kicking myself for not bidding on the Philco 42-1010. The cabinet >> was better than the one I picked up on the side of the road, and for $25 >> was a good deal. I'm also kicking myself for stopping bidding on the wire >> recorder at $25. The guy who bid $30 got it. >> >> Isn't Laurie (the auctioneer) a hoot? And who in their right mind would >> pay so much for those ugly "space" lamps? >> >> Jon >> >> >> >> "Lou deGonzague" wrote in message >> news:RGjTf.24811$jf2.24316@twister.nyroc.rr.com... >>> As Ron says this was a little known auction place out in the middle of >>> nowhere. I didn't buy anything but was in the area and wanted to see >>> what the bidding would be like. There were some good deals for a new >>> collector. Most of the tubes looked to be TV type. >>> >>> Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: >>>> Joe Farkas wrote in message >>>>> I hope that when I go, the wife gets better $ than these... a lot of >>>>> familiar models. Must have been like a kid in a candy shop. >>>>> >>>> Then don't have them sold at a general auction for the public. >>>> Have someone take them to an auction that's part of an >>>> antique radio conference. There you'll find hundreds of >>>> collectors with pockets full of money looking for radios to buy >>>> and other collectors to bid against them. >>>> The average might well have been double the sale amount >>>> at a radio show auction. >>>> >>>> Ron >>>> www.cc-awa.org >>>> >>>> >> Article: 331584 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1142805276.694544.270580@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: RCA Victor SHF-8 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:17:43 GMT It's transformerless, with a selenium rectifier. Looks like there's been some heat in there though, as there's lots of waxy buildup on the wires where the original cap would have been. The resistors also show some signs of overheating, so I'm going to go through the rest of the caps to see what's drawing the extra current and causing the resistors to get hot. It's been recapped at least twice, as there are dusty orange drops, replacement paper, and rather clean (but bulging) electrolyics in there. Jon "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1142805276.694544.270580@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > If it's an AC/DC set (without voltage doubler), then 160vdc is fine. > Bulging cap could be installed backwards (ouch) or just deteriorated > with age/heat. AC transformer and AC/DC voltage doubler sets will vary > depending on B+, but as cheap as 450v units are, I'd use 450v caps. > Unless you have a very high B+. > Article: 331585 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Patterson PR16 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:39:24 -0500 Patterson was also well known for their shortwave sets. Pete Article: 331586 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <121nvti2hj5g56e@corp.supernews.com> <1142742011.300727.303470@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 12 Tube Zenith in NJ Cheap Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:30:20 GMT Bit too new for me, although Id still grab it if I could find time to get to NJ and pick it up. Oooohh is that Photofinish :-0 Keith "Steven" wrote in message news:1142742011.300727.303470@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > > Hagstar wrote: >> 12S568- >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5880083267 >> >> John H. > > Keith or Sal: > > That is wonderful! My jaw almost fell off when I saw the insides too,,, > > Not a seller, it's a keeper. > From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Mon Mar 20 07:04:32 EST 2006 Article: 331587 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Chassis needed Lines: 8 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:48:47 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.9.190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1142812127 67.53.9.190 (Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:48:47 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:48:47 CST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newscon06.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!news-east.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:331587 I'm looking for a 1920 Philco 87 chassis. Jim Ron Ramirez has on pictured at his web site, a 1929 Philco 87 Lowboy, Article: 331588 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1142370523.946952.130090@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1142467539.218284.101790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1142728806.533905.254880@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wire recorder project - success! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:53:14 -0500 > Thanks to Gary for the 50Hz/60Hz suggestion - you may well be right. > I'll need to look and see what kind of motor it is. The spools seemed > to have been recorded at various speeds so maybe the mains voltage > fluctuated more in those days. Hmm.. my Grandfather was the district > engineer for the Electricity Board for London so he would not approve > of my theory :-) > Nick > Nick is it possible, since it was a homebrew rig, that the wire was moved by the takeup spool rather than a constant speed constant drive? Using the spool would cause the wire to travel at a faster speed as the take up spool filled?? Just a thought. Very interesting thread, thanks for posting. Pete Article: 331589 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: saw an old Zenith stand up AM tube radio today Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:53:23 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1142736453.085865.276600@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <21750-441CFB13-2664@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> <1142807403.105021.31570@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> On 19 Mar 2006 14:30:03 -0800, "Hand of Doom" wrote: >OK folks here goes- went back and looked at the unit again today > >I did not find any ID plate anywhere, but on the actual chassis itself >for the tubes, was this number A278666 > >on the speaker, it said Zenith, and had this number on the magnet >49H416 > >there was a large vertical box that rotated inside, that the owner said >was an adjustable antenna- that said "ZENITH ROTORWAVE MAGNET" > >the front tuning panel was round, also said ZENITH, and had the >following bands marked: > >POLICE >STANDARD BROADCAST >SHORT WAVE > >there were some very large tubes in this unit as well, that were all >marked ZENITH right on the tubes- i.e. it has a full complement of >original tubes > >what's it worth ? Nothing to you, asshat. Give it away to someone who'd appreciate it and have the electronic skills to make it work as designed. You, with your "tuner spray" and "QEC" cleaning, would destroy this Zenith in nothing flat...just like you destroy everything else you touch. Article: 331590 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: 50A1 -- which TOs used? References: <0f6dnYWc4ZBmpYDZRVn-ig@gwi.net> <18782-441D6824-431@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:10:57 -0500 Bill Turner wrote: > I HAVE SOLID STATE 50A1 IN A GLASS TUBE WITH 9 PIN BASE FOR $18.00. > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. > > > > Haven't seen any posts from you in a while Bill. Welcome back, hope you are well. From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Mon Mar 20 07:04:32 EST 2006 Article: 331591 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: Subject: Re: Chassis needed Lines: 3 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:15:36 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.9.190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1142813736 67.53.9.190 (Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:15:36 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:15:36 CST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news-feed01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net!nntp.frontiernet.net!newscon06.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!news-east.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-server.columbus.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:331591 1929... sorry typo Article: 331592 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" Subject: what the heck is eames.... Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:18:53 -0700 Ebay listing for "art deco" almost always has eames attached also... I am guessing that this was a famous designer of the same time frame and or style???? Can anyone tell me the real meaning... Bob in phx. Article: 331593 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:52:31 -0800 Message-ID: References: On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:18:53 -0700, "Bob in Phx" wrote: >Ebay listing for "art deco" almost always has eames attached also... I am >guessing that this was a famous designer of the same time frame and or >style???? > >Can anyone tell me the real meaning... First of all, eBay is a collection of morons and/or fraudsters trying to vacuum dollars from other clueless peoples' wallets. Disregard anything you may see there. Second, the designer quoted has nothing whatever to do with the late 1920's "art deco" movement as popularized in first in France and coming to fruition in the US. Charles Eames was a US furniture designer of the modern school, who in the 1940s, designed what became the ubiquitous molded plywood (and ungodly uncomfortable) chair. Some of his later works included the "spaceball" 8 track/AM/FM radio set sold under the "Welltron" name in the US, and under other names elsewhere, done up in sort of a "2001: A Space Oddity" styling...quite a hit back circa 1967. Eames had nothing whatsoever to do with "art deco." One may also successfully argue that many (if not most) of his and his wife's furnishing designs focused more on style over substance, some of the furniture being racily modern, but horridly uncomfortable. Recently, some cracker down in Ally-bammy had a circa 1949 Philco Transitone for sale on sleazeBay. The "style?" "Art decko," what else? dB Article: 331594 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Message-ID: <93nTf.1718$Vx4.683@trnddc06> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:54:29 GMT http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/eames/ -- Mike Schultz "Bob in Phx" wrote in message news:qwmTf.6016$422.1394@fed1read10... > Ebay listing for "art deco" almost always has eames attached also... I am > guessing that this was a famous designer of the same time frame and or > style???? > > Can anyone tell me the real meaning... > > Bob in phx. > Article: 331595 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: anyone need an Ungar 9010 soldering iron tip? Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:25:54 -0800 Message-ID: cleaning out stuff I don't need - for example, this 9010 soldering iron tip - here's a link to see what it is and what it costs https://www.micro-tools.com/store/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=UNG-9010 this tip is new and in factory packaging - since they cost $15 when you need one, I figure $7.50 is fair, including postage - that way I get this to someone who can use it and that someone pays half price - if interested, contact me off the list by unmangling my e-mail address below (don't reply to this, it' won't work) - or locate my email on my web page, www.wbnoble.com Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 331596 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Chassis needed Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:10:41 -0700 Message-ID: <25568-441E0F21-2778@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: I would search for a model 96 chassis . The 87 is a bit of a junker . See my reply on ABPR Article: 331597 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <6qhTf.14771$S25.13475@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: OT? my web site Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 02:41:33 GMT Hi! > When I went to Mozilla help...it said that if Windows Medai Player is > installed...it should automatically detect and use it. This requires a newer version of Windows Media Player. I know 6.4 does not work. I've heard 8 and 9 do, but I don't care for the newer versions, so I don't use them. Not to start a debate of any sort, but consider letting users choose to hear the sounds if they want by clicking on links to them. I really don't care for web sites that automatically start playing music, sounds or other noises...more often than not I've got the speakers set for something else, or I'm listening to music. As a result, the sound is startlingly loud or unwelcome background noise. William Article: 331598 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:15:14 -0800 Message-ID: References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:27:33 -0800, "graham" wrote: >... you sir, have ...plonked you into oblivion. Article: 331599 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:51:23 -0800 Message-ID: References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> <1142825474.580373.254730@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> On 19 Mar 2006 19:31:14 -0800, "Terry S" wrote: >They are not the same, but like that famous Star Trek episode, they >seem destined to spend eternity at each others' throats.... I'll quit when that fraudster Nudo satisfies two or more of the following criteria: 1.) Is booted off of eBay permanently 2.) Has his 'Net access yanked 3.) Is prosecuted successfully for copyright theft and/or mail and wire fraud in a Federal court 4.) Dies due to sticking fingers into a beefy B+ supply, thinking it's "safe" (judged a high probability) 5.) Has one of his junk cars he uses for eBay swindles fall upon him due to illegal/improper floor jacks. 6.) Blows up due to spontaneous combustion due to internal hot air retention 7.) Is documented as standing in the middle of a busy intersection on Xmas Eve in downtown Scranton, naked but for a Santa hat, ringing a bell, wearing a sign that says, "Run over me...please!" ....THEN, I'll leave him alone....but only then. I'm not going to bother you folks in here anymore. He's YOUR problem now. Have fun! Article: 331600 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: FA: tape recorder motor - anyone care to confirm exactly what it fits? Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:00:59 -0800 Message-ID: <46hs125jdthidefo8ohjvc0i8klohkbu36@4ax.com> This motor is dated 5 1956. My guess is that it's from a Wollensack machine - if anyone knows for sure, please let me know - I'm selling this (and other stuff) for a friend who ran out of storage space - I'd just as soon get top $ for him by having my listings accurate. here's the link http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9701240972 Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 331601 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Chinese radio pictures Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:29:10 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1142755065.585622.200980@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <121r7mdthn40o6a@news.supernews.com> <1142816626.630303.226780@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Steve Reeves wrote: > Buck Frobisher Wrote > This listing (#6613881323) has been removed or is no longer available. > Please make sure you entered the right item number." > > > > The Listing was there earlier. About 164 pictures I saved them to my > harddrive. some were interesting some were not. All had to be rotated. > It was a "pick a magazine you want from 164 choices auction". I'm not > sure you can run an epay auction the way thay one was. I think you can > offer/sale one Item that comes in different colors. don't think you can > offer different magazines with a choose one option however. Cuts into > epays earnings from listing fees? > It's called a choice auction, and yes, it is forbidden on eBay per their policies. That's probably why it was pulled. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 331602 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" Subject: Unusual radio? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 04:25:48 -0330 My very good neighbour has asked me to fix a small Sentinel AM clock radio of 1940s vintage? Made in USA. Dark red/purple dial is marked, in gold characters, unusually both in metres (550 to 200) and kilocycles (550 to 1600). It's a 115v transformerless with tube line-up 35Z5-GT, 50L6-GT, 12SQ7-GT, 12SK7-M and unmarked -M Freq Changer (probably a 12K8?). As expected it has the two gang tuning cap. and two square IF cans, each as big as an octal tube! The radio is switched on via an AC clock mounted in one section of the somewhat battered wood cabinet which has (or partially had) a semi bamboo patterned paper finish. Manufacturing numbers in black print on edge of chassis are 71 9520 and 120150BV. In addition to the paper stuck inside the case which provides the , model Number 194UTCL, but no maker, the number 194U is impressed into the rear metal edge of the chassis. It has a very unusual metal plate antenna, about 5 by nine inches, that also comprises the rear cover. Attached by screws to the wooden case it is thereby not in contact with the metal chassis. A single wire leads from a Fahenstock clip on this plate to what looks like the RF input of the FC (first detector) tube. It has a bad AC cord, with the old type non polarized two pin plug. Someone has stuck what looks like pencil through the speaker cone several times, the speaker and output transformer having been previously replaced by dint of soldering two edges of the 'new' speaker and the mounting lugs of the replacement OP transformer to the metal chassis (pretty massive soldering iron needed for that!), the dial cord has disappeared along with any springs and tags for tensioning it. And two knobs are missing. Nevertheless we got sound out of it immediately without replacing anything. Is this set unusual enough to demand special attention? Or is just one of the many five tube AC/DC radios of that era with an AC clock to act as an alarm. I guess it will get fairly warm when back in its case, the tube heaters alone consuming some 17 watts and B+ probably another 5 or 8 watts? Comments welcomed please. Terry M Article: 331603 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bartley Subject: Re: Chassis needed References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:59:10 -0500 James Hilins wrote: > I'm looking for a 1920 Philco 87 chassis. > > Jim Do you need complete or for parts? -- regards from :: John Bartley 43 Norway Spruce Street Stittsville, Ontario Canada, K2S1P5 ( If you slow down it takes longer - does that apply to life also?) Article: 331604 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim Barnard" Subject: Zenith Transistor Radio History Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:24:45 -0500 Message-ID: I have been looking for some time to find information about the Zenith people who designed the first Royal 500 transistor radio as well as the later Royal 500H. While the hardware is documented many times over, I can find nothing about the grand folks behind these wonderful radios. I would like to add some names and faces to my Website. Any suggestions are appreciated. Jim Barnard www.transistor-repairs.com Article: 331605 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Chassis needed References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 13:32:59 GMT I think I have a 96 out in the garage. Let me know if interested. James Hilins wrote: > I'm looking for a 1920 Philco 87 chassis. > > Jim > > > Ron Ramirez has on pictured at his web site, a 1929 Philco 87 Lowboy, > > From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Thu Mar 23 01:35:03 EST 2006 Article: 331606 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: Subject: Re: Chassis needed Lines: 5 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response Message-ID: <7CyTf.17727$iR1.10492@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:02:43 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.9.190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1142863363 67.53.9.190 (Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:02:43 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:02:43 CST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wns14feed!worldnet.att.net!24.30.200.11!news-east.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:331606 I need a complete, the original was parted out and junked! Jim From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Thu Mar 23 01:35:03 EST 2006 Article: 331607 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: Subject: Re: Chassis needed Lines: 7 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response Message-ID: <1DyTf.17728$iR1.1778@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:03:41 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.9.190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1142863421 67.53.9.190 (Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:03:41 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:03:41 CST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!news-west.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:331607 I am interested if it is restorable. What do you want for it? Jim Article: 331608 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" Subject: Great expectations Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:54:27 GMT I never cease to be amazed by the public. Some don't think old radios are worth 2 second's thought and others are sure anything older than last season is a valuable artifact museums would love to get their hands on. Witness this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6614121785& Ray Article: 331609 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Ah Sweet Memories Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:47:19 -0700 Message-ID: <25085-441EC077-2917@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> References: When i was a kid i bought one of those used . It had a wood stag case instead of plastic . I ended up trading it to my dad for his truetone pocket radio ... yes memorys . Article: 331610 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1142805276.694544.270580@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1142826943.082078.225310@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: RCA Victor SHF-8 Message-ID: <6QATf.25135$jf2.11543@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:34:10 GMT I was planning on getting rid of that rectifier eventually. It's not what's getting hot though. After recapping the amp, I'm finding that it takes about 30 seconds of warm up to get audio, and the audio sounds clean with no hum. I did find that in one case there was a 0.1uF where a 0.05 should have been, making the output unbalanced. I also am finding that I'm getting a "ringing" that turns into a 600hz "howl" after the unit has been on for about 10 minutes. That's when I can smell a resistor getting hot. I've kept leads to a minimum and run any wires along the chassis to try to minimize anything, but perhaps I just have a microphonic tube. I'm going to swap out the 100uF electrolytic with an 80uF as per the original schematic, and replace the other two large electrolytics with ones closer to the original values. Jon "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1142826943.082078.225310@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > I'd get rid of the selenium rectifier right away. Replace it with a > 1N4007 and a 5 or 10 watt 33 ohm resistor. Depending on the > environment, the heat could be those hot tubes on top or long usage in > high temperature (like near a hot coal stove). If there is a voltage > dropping power resistor like the tube T/O have, use a single 160 ohm > resistor. > Article: 331611 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Great expectations From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:42:02 GMT In article , rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com says... > > >Witness this: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6614121785& > >Ray > > > looks like TWO extra Zeros on the end of that start price John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331612 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bartley Subject: Re: Chassis needed References: <7CyTf.17727$iR1.10492@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:55:48 -0500 James Hilins wrote: > I need a complete, the original was parted out and junked! > > Jim > > Okey-doke, I have some parts, but not a restorable chassis. cheers -- regards from :: John Bartley 43 Norway Spruce Street Stittsville, Ontario Canada, K2S1P5 ( If you slow down it takes longer - does that apply to life also?) Article: 331613 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1142873852.741521.13770@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Transistor Radio History Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:38:56 GMT "Terry S" wrote in message news:1142873852.741521.13770@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > Looks like Dwight Poppy retired from the University of Wisconsin, > Oshkosh, in 2004, after 22 years of service. > > I love Dogpile! > > Terry. > Looks like he now lives right across Lake Winnebago from Oshkosh. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=920-439-1279&btnG=Search jim menning Article: 331614 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" Subject: RCA Tape Cartridge - what models? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:29:33 GMT There's a video in the Prelinger Archive (http://www.archive.org/details/Revoluti1958) that shows RCA's tape cartridge that they introduced in 9158. What models had this tape recorder? Are they hard to find? Were many titles released in this format before it went by the wayside? I'm interested in trying to add one to my collection, but would like to be able to use it, not just look at it. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery2/v/Antique_radios/ and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 331615 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: RCA Tape Cartridge - what models? Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:13:39 -0800 Message-ID: References: On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:29:33 GMT, "Jon" wrote: >There's a video in the Prelinger Archive >(http://www.archive.org/details/Revoluti1958) that shows RCA's tape >cartridge that they introduced in 9158. What models had this tape recorder? I have no clue...they're extremely rare, as the format tanked as soon as car audio showed up with the Muntz/Fidelipac 4 track players. Audiophiles of the era just scoffed at RCA's cartridges, and stuck with RTR. >Are they hard to find? Very. >Were many titles released in this format before it >went by the wayside? Fiedler and the like, not much else. > I'm interested in trying to add one to my collection, >but would like to be able to use it, not just look at it. Lotsa luck. Article: 331616 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: Subject: Re: RCA Tape Cartridge - what models? Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:17:03 -0500 Message-ID: <441f0dbc$0$7326$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> You can find them if you look hard enough. I once had the opportunity to get a machine with about 50 cartridges at one time. Bill "Jon" wrote in message news:hwCTf.25147$jf2.10924@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > There's a video in the Prelinger Archive > (http://www.archive.org/details/Revoluti1958) that shows RCA's tape > cartridge that they introduced in 9158. What models had this tape > recorder? Are they hard to find? Were many titles released in this format > before it went by the wayside? I'm interested in trying to add one to my > collection, but would like to be able to use it, not just look at it. > > > -- > Jon Scaptura > Endicott, NY > > See my antique radios here: > http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery2/v/Antique_radios/ > and the workbench webcam: > http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam > > > Article: 331617 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1142873852.741521.13770@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1142878802.624782.4500@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Transistor Radio History Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:16:22 GMT "Terry S" wrote in message news:1142878802.624782.4500@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Jim manages to one-up me once again :-) > I first used my local phone book to look up his number, and then Googled the number. He lives just down the road from one of my favorite golf courses. > > I'll have to get busy and see if I can dig up Dwight's medical > records... > > Terry. > You could try to access the Homeland Security files for that. I'm sure they have all current and former college instructors on file. jim menning From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Thu Mar 23 01:35:04 EST 2006 Article: 331618 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: <25568-441E0F21-2778@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Chassis needed Lines: 14 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:44:06 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.9.190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1142891046 67.53.9.190 (Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:44:06 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:44:06 CST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!24.30.200.11!news-east.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:331618 Jim, Thanks for replying so quickly. But I'm somewhat confused about the chassis. Mr. Philco (Ron Ramirez) at http://www.philcoradio.com/ says the model 87 chassis has 8 tubes, and that "The 87 is a surprisingly good performer, despite its relatively primitive design. It is a very sensitive radio". The model 96 chassis, which is also shown on Ron's web site, goes in the "highboy" cabinet, and has a different knob configuration than the one on my 87 lowboy cabinet. Check out the Mr. Philco web site and see what you think. Austin Article: 331619 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ken Knapp" Subject: Re: Great expectations Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:54:56 -0500 Message-ID: <121u98ma1h9uda3@corp.supernews.com> References: Damn, I'm a big spender. I offered $5.99. Don't particularly want it, it's more a statement on how whacked his buy it now is. Ken "Rick Yerke" wrote in message news:EqydnaM3Lrnrj4LZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@adelphia.com... >I made a best offer of $2 for the Nestle Crunch radio.Rick > > > In article , > k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) wrote: >>In article , >>rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com says... >>> >>> >>>Witness this: >>> >>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6614121785& >>> >>>Ray >>> >>> >>> >>looks like TWO extra Zeros on the end of that start price >>John k9uwa /w4 >> Article: 331620 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: RCA Tape Cartridge - what models? Message-ID: <86GTf.8718$gD4.4559@trnddc05> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:34:44 GMT Back in the late 60's, I was given one of those machines. The guy who gave it to me wished me luck, and hinted that I would never get it to work properly. I thought he was joking. After about 6 months of trying, I threw it in the trash. They are junk. -- Mike Schultz "Jon" wrote in message news:hwCTf.25147$jf2.10924@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > There's a video in the Prelinger Archive > (http://www.archive.org/details/Revoluti1958) that shows RCA's tape > cartridge that they introduced in 9158. What models had this tape > recorder? Are they hard to find? Were many titles released in this format > before it went by the wayside? I'm interested in trying to add one to my > collection, but would like to be able to use it, not just look at it. > > > -- > Jon Scaptura > Endicott, NY > > See my antique radios here: > http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery2/v/Antique_radios/ > and the workbench webcam: > http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam > > > Article: 331621 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: RCA Tape Cartridge - what models? Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:40:39 -0800 Message-ID: References: <86GTf.8718$gD4.4559@trnddc05> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:34:44 GMT, "Mike Schultz" wrote: >Back in the late 60's, I was given one of those machines. The guy who gave >it to me wished me luck, and hinted that I would never get it to work >properly. I thought he was joking. After about 6 months of trying, I threw >it in the trash. > >They are junk. Not having ever worked on one, I had only heard of these by reputation, and it was exactly the same as this. The RCA system was poorly engineered garbage. Even the 2 track monaural Orr car tape machine was better, and that wasn't all too good, either! Some prerecorded Orr cartrdiges showed up on sleazeBay recently, and got no bidders. An Orr machine did sell, however. Once Early Muntz launched 4 track in the now-familiar size for car, the RCA and Orr systems were both doomed and are not quite rare to find in any condition. Article: 331622 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <86GTf.8718$gD4.4559@trnddc05> Subject: Re: RCA Tape Cartridge - what models? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:54:54 GMT "DeserTBoB" wrote in message news:a6fu12hd812lr124npn2qmanb8tp0hdurs@4ax.com... > Not having ever worked on one, I had only heard of these by > reputation, and it was exactly the same as this. The RCA system was > poorly engineered garbage. Even the 2 track monaural Orr car tape > machine was better, and that wasn't all too good, either! Some > prerecorded Orr cartrdiges showed up on sleazeBay recently, and got no > bidders. An Orr machine did sell, however. Once Early Muntz launched > 4 track in the now-familiar size for car, the RCA and Orr systems were > both doomed and are not quite rare to find in any condition. Most of the replies I've gotten here and in email tell me that they are junk, but so far, I haven't figured out what model numbers they were included in. Anyone know? Jon From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Thu Mar 23 01:35:05 EST 2006 Article: 331623 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Riders Manuals for swap Lines: 6 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:03:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.9.190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1142899429 67.53.9.190 (Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:03:49 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:03:49 CST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wns13feed!worldnet.att.net!24.30.200.11!news-east.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:331623 I have a complete set of riders TV manuals I'd swap for a complete set of radio manuals. Jim Article: 331624 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: "Spammer "66 fourdoor" finished. Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:03:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142707356.650872.122990@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> In <1142707356.650872.122990@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> "Hand of Doom" writes: >it seems the guys who don't have the selling skills, and can't sell >anything, complain the most Eh? How's that follow? Not everyone *wants* to sell anything! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331625 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: "Spammer "66 fourdoor" finished. Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:04:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142085841.337915.31740@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1142707726.954006.179210@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1142707726.954006.179210@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Hand of Doom" writes: >last summer one hillbilly blues disk went for over $10K on Ebay Yowza! Was that an early acoustic recording? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Thu Mar 23 01:35:05 EST 2006 Article: 331626 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: <1142862035.710379.292160@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1142873089.050840.146950@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 11-tube Magnavox Table Set Lines: 6 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:08:22 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.9.190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1142899702 67.53.9.190 (Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:08:22 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:08:22 CST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!24.30.200.11!news-east.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:331626 You'd be surprised to find out how many of these people are in prison, sold the house, set up a trust to pay the rent from the proceeds and are just serving out their time waiting to come back for their stuff and to resume their life... Article: 331627 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Unusual radio? Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:02:31 -0600 Message-ID: <18781-441F4297-2117@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: I think the radio is worth restoring. cuhulin Article: 331628 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Great expectations Message-ID: References: <121u98ma1h9uda3@corp.supernews.com> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:32:29 GMT >Damn, I'm a big spender. I offered $5.99. Don't particularly want it, it's >more a statement on how whacked his buy it now is. > >Ken > > >"Rick Yerke" wrote in message >news:EqydnaM3Lrnrj4LZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@adelphia.com... >>I made a best offer of $2 for the Nestle Crunch radio.Rick >> >> >> In article , >> k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) wrote: >>>In article , >>>rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com says... >>>> >>>> >>>>Witness this: >>>> >>>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6614121785& >>>> >>>>Ray >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>looks like TWO extra Zeros on the end of that start price >>>John k9uwa /w4 >>> > Maybe the seller is crazy like a fox, eh? He's got two bids already from people who probably would never have touched it at a BIN of 9.99. LOL I looked at that thing too. And was puzzled for a moment buy the high BIN. And then I figured the seller is just having fun. Gordon Richmond Article: 331629 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "radionutz" References: <6qhTf.14771$S25.13475@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: OT? my web site Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:49:25 GMT I finally got mine to work by adding QuickTime plug in but ran into an additional problem that way since I already have RealPlayer installed on some pages I got double streams. Considering weather to leave autostart on it or not. I personally don't care since I use IE all the time anyhow. Just wanted it for others. Don't know how to change the frames in rows thing. As someone mentioned spell check, I do use it but I don't know how the mentioned problem got by. I am going to look at it. I don't want to get too too technical about the site since it is just a fun thing to me and not a commercial venture. I figure that people will find it through my suggestion.and not really wanting to publicise it generally. JUST HAVING FUN, DON "radionutz" wrote in message news:6qhTf.14771$S25.13475@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > Hi; > been quite awhile since I have been here but had some difficulty and this > may be a little off topic but it does concern my radio web site. > I have some sound bites on a couple of my pages . I use IE as my browser > and all is well there but, when I try to use netscape to view my site I > can' get the sound. > I did it in HTML and use the BGSOUND for IE and the EMBED tag for netscape > but it still doesn't work there. > If anyone has any suggestions as to what I may be doing wrong you can get > back to me off-list at: dmign at earthlink dot net. > > THANKS, DON > > -- > Check out my web site at: > > www.home.earthlink.net/~dmign/index.htm > Article: 331630 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Weird Italian project radio? Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1142730885.570479.313490@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1142730885.570479.313490@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> djep1@juno.com writes: >links: www.oldradiosrus.com/jpg/weird/weird1.jpg > www.oldradiosrus.com/jpg/weird/weird2.jpg > www.oldradiosrus.com/jpg/weird/weird3.jpg > www.oldradiosrus.com/jpg/weird/weird4.jpg > Had a customer bring this into the shop, It looks like a "project" >someone started and didn't get too far. Some parts have excellent >workmanship, some others are just so-so. Steve's got one on his webpage: http://radio-guy.net/websitefolder/radio/images/page2/radialrado.jpg He seems to think it's a prototype, too. Now that a second one's shown up it seems it might very well have been a production run. Albiet one that never really got off the ground. {Sorry! :} -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331631 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Weird Italian project radio? Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:32:13 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1142730885.570479.313490@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2478-441CC9CA-1041@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> In "Phil Nelson" writes: >Last year, during a visit to Idaho, I took my boys on a joyride in a vintage >tourist plane with an engine something like that. It was so loud that even >with headphones and an onboard sound system, you could only hear the pilot's >comments occasionally, and it was useless to try taking off the phones to >scream remarks at the passenger next to you. Loads of fun, anyhow. The pilot >said they had recently had the engine rebuilt for $40,000. I always liked those rotaries where the crankshaft is bolted to the airframe, the prop attached to the engine block, and the whole shebang spins around. Whadda concept! IIRC, there was a motorcycle built "inside-out" like that, too. >Phil "radios are so cheap!" Nelson They take up less space, and whereas cats love to snooze on a nice warm radio, they just hate it when you fire up a biplane in the living room. Fur flying everywhere. Terrible sight. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331632 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: 11-tube Magnavox Table Set Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:46:08 -0500 Message-ID: <489478Finph5U1@individual.net> References: <1142862035.710379.292160@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1142873089.050840.146950@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1142887312.234888.321770@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> toxcrusadr wrote: > A strange world. Nice work if you can get it. > > Back to the radio: I wonder if that 51 04 AA is April of '51? > > I searched the RARP archives on Google and found a lot on the later > Magnavox stereo consoles and some mention of prewar consoles, but not > much on the period (or the radio) in question. Apparently their > earlier stuff is pretty good quality though. I am looking forward to > firing it up but it would be nice to have a schematic, and a pic so I > know what the missing back should look like. > > Tox Tox i have a magnavox tabletop that is similar to your radio. in fact, it uses the same chassis as yours except it was not equipped with a eye tube. that chassis in your radio was also used in the 1957-59 top line consoles (sans the power supply & 6AQ5 tube). that is a hell of a nice radio. there is somthing that you may need to check. there is a ether a 470k or 100k resistor that goes way out of spec that is connected to the plate of the 6CY5 RF amp tube. that affects the FM reception drastically. so far, i have found this problem on every one of these chassis that i have worked on. > There are 5 antenna > terminals, too, some of which I'm sure are supposed to be strapped or > not depending on internal or external antenna use, but no directions. i believe two of those screws are for a external speaker. -- The Shadow Knows Article: 331633 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "t.hoehler" References: <1142873852.741521.13770@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1142878802.624782.4500@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Transistor Radio History Message-ID: <_5JTf.40234$oL.36939@attbi_s71> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:59:22 GMT "Terry S" wrote in message news:1142878802.624782.4500@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Jim manages to one-up me once again :-) > > I'll have to get busy and see if I can dig up Dwight's medical > records... > > Terry. > ROTFLMAO! Good one! Regards, Tom Article: 331634 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <121u98ma1h9uda3@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Great expectations Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 02:15:01 GMT LOL! Could be. Wonder if there will be indignant emails from him or chuckles. Ray "Gordon Richmond" wrote in message news:e7iu1293mdmr4hin6qcqnrtks5mn3dcdft@4ax.com... > >Damn, I'm a big spender. I offered $5.99. Don't particularly want it, > >it's >>more a statement on how whacked his buy it now is. >> >>Ken >> >> >>"Rick Yerke" wrote in message >>news:EqydnaM3Lrnrj4LZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@adelphia.com... >>>I made a best offer of $2 for the Nestle Crunch radio.Rick >>> >>> >>> In article , >>> k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) wrote: >>>>In article , >>>>rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com says... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Witness this: >>>>> >>>>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6614121785& >>>>> >>>>>Ray >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>looks like TWO extra Zeros on the end of that start price >>>>John k9uwa /w4 >>>> >> > Maybe the seller is crazy like a fox, eh? He's got two bids already from > people who > probably would never have touched it at a BIN of 9.99. LOL > > I looked at that thing too. And was puzzled for a moment buy the high BIN. > And then I > figured the seller is just having fun. > > Gordon Richmond Article: 331635 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 03:06:16 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> In "William Sommerwerck" writes: >I once asked a seller why he stuck Eames with Art Deco, when they had little >to do with each other. He replied that he knew this, but that buyers >interested in one tended to be interested in the other. I can sort of see this, but I wonder if it's really true. I love deco, but don't particularly care for the stylings of the "Eames Era". Never having done a survey, informal or otherwise, I don't know if others hold the same view. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331636 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:22:51 -0800 Message-ID: <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 03:06:16 +0000 (UTC), Tim Mullen wrote: > I can sort of see this, but I wonder if it's really true. I love deco, >but don't particularly care for the stylings of the "Eames Era". Never >having done a survey, informal or otherwise, I don't know if others hold >the same view. It defies credulity, as I can't think of two more disparate schools of design. I think the real reason is that the seller, looking to reach as many suckers as possible, crams Deco and Eames together to catch as many as can be. Personally, I find that Eames' work did indeed have a futuristic, clean visual line, but as has been confirmed by others, the functionality of his stuff was abyssmal. Deco furnishings tended to be large and very prominent in style, but still very comfortable. Article: 331637 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 03:41:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> In <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> DeserTBoB writes: >On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 03:06:16 +0000 (UTC), Tim Mullen >wrote: >> I can sort of see this, but I wonder if it's really true. I love deco, >>but don't particularly care for the stylings of the "Eames Era". Never >>having done a survey, informal or otherwise, I don't know if others hold >>the same view. >It defies credulity, as I can't think of two more disparate schools of >design. I think the real reason is that the seller, looking to reach >as many suckers as possible, crams Deco and Eames together to catch as >many as can be. Personally, I find that Eames' work did indeed have a >futuristic, clean visual line, but as has been confirmed by others, >the functionality of his stuff was abyssmal. Deco furnishings tended >to be large and very prominent in style, but still very comfortable. I hear ya, but I wasn't really thinking along those lines. I don't collect vintage furniture; all my stuff is modern deco-inspired. It simply gets too much use, what with folks crashing on the couch and all. And if I did pick up vintage seating I wouldn't necessarily see the un-comfort factor as a disadvantage. For things like radios it seems the tenuous connection comes from, as you aptly put it, the "futuristic, clean visual line". I think the fact that this visual ideal was, to some extent, shared by both designs is waht causes them to be lumped together. Nevertheless, I really don't care for the post-war stuff, but adore the 30's and 40's. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331638 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:46:34 -0700 Message-ID: <23475-441F771A-1032@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> References: It has something to do with the Benny Hill show . Article: 331639 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: 11-tube Magnavox Table Set Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 03:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1142862035.710379.292160@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> In <1142862035.710379.292160@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "toxcrusadr" writes: >A friend gave me this yesterday while cleaning out a rental apt. - >actually it's a bizarre story, the renter moved away 9 years ago and >has paid rent ever since, all his stuff and a car just sat there the >whole time...nice deal for the landlord but quite odd...the guy finally >decided he couldn't afford it and said to get rid of the stuff... Parole denied once again? :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331640 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: RCA Tape Cartridge - what models? Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:41:50 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:13:39 -0800, DeserTBoB wrote: > On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:29:33 GMT, "Jon" > wrote: > >>There's a video in the Prelinger Archive >>(http://www.archive.org/details/Revoluti1958) that shows RCA's tape >>cartridge that they introduced in 9158. What models had this tape recorder? > > I have no clue...they're extremely rare, as the format tanked as soon > as car audio showed up with the Muntz/Fidelipac 4 track players. > Audiophiles of the era just scoffed at RCA's cartridges, and stuck > with RTR. > >>Are they hard to find? > > Very. > >>Were many titles released in this format before it >>went by the wayside? > > Fiedler and the like, not much else. > >> I'm interested in trying to add one to my collection, >>but would like to be able to use it, not just look at it. > > Lotsa luck. There were several models but I don't know the numbers. There were prerecorded tapes and blank tapes. There was also an adapter to use 3" open reel tapes in one of these machines. I have only ever seen 1 of the machines, never any tape or the adapter. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 331641 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Darrin Subject: Please help me identify this Silvertone Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:32:21 -0500 Message-ID: If anyone knows what model, or has any other info, please let me know. I obtained this radio, and it has no model# It is a Silvertone. http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5848/fd18mq.jpg Article: 331642 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Cameron Subject: Re: Another Cheap High End Zenith- Long Island, NY References: <121qvo0m2h56pf5@corp.supernews.com> <1142922194.755020.24650@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <39STf.19$mu2.14@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:17:03 GMT Paul Dietenberger wrote: > And I think you'll find that the rest of us (well, not to speak for > everyone else, but I am speaking for myself) don't mind at all. I certainly don't mind, as I'm the one who won the auction! Thanks to the person who pointed it out here. Back to lurking... -Cameron Article: 331643 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" Subject: Zenith console with old and new FM Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 07:45:20 -0500 I recently saw a small Zenith console in an antique store. As is typical, it was blocked in and stuff stacked on top so I could not look behind it for a model number etc. It had a pull-out record changer in the front. The controls were on the TOP. Had the "tone organ" keys - 3 on each side - and the roundish reddish plastic knobs. It had broadcast, OLD FM, and NEW FM bands. Any clue as to what model and year? Value in very good cabinet condition? Thanks, Dave Article: 331644 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Iain Churches" Subject: Re: Mick's AX84 Thick Mary Build: Sound clip-full overdrive... Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:19:48 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1142909910.737482.149170@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1142917979.291440.261890@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1142919009.552637.290280@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Mick" wrote in message news:1142919009.552637.290280@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Hello Jim, > > Building with a turret board makes things really simple. All the > components need to connect to something, so using the TB gives us a > convenient place to do that. You can build the board outside the amp. > Of course, we might improve tone by moving the tone components right > onto the pots, or at least the MOJO says so. ;-) > > Mick > Agreed. Building with turret board is a very functional compromise between point to point and printed circuit boards. Unlike p to p, turret boards give predictable results and one can easily make changes. All components are supported at each end with very short wiring. They were often used in mil-spec valve equipment. I mount components on one side, and wire links on the other. This is a blank board with turrets inserted (2.65mm holes) and the 6mm feed.through holes to the valve base pins. http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Pics/203TurretBoard.02.jpg This is a board with components mounted, and link wires going to the valve base, which is mounted on a 6mm aluminium plate to which the turret board is attached by 30mm standoffs. http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Pics/203TurretBoard.04.jpg This is the finished module. It can be tested and modified before being fitted into the chassis-The vertical electrolytics have now been replaced by axial types. There are a couple of components missing still in the top row. http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Pics/203TurretBoard.05.jpg regards to all Iain Article: 331645 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <1142700483.809049.215690@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: AVC voltage swing Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 08:30:22 -0600 "nesesu" wrote in message news:1142700483.809049.215690@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > Nelson, I agree that the AVC should swing well over 10 volts. > Assumptions: you are using a high impedance voltmeter [DVM/VTVM],; you > have checked/replaced the AVC filter resistors/capacitors; you have > checked/replaced any of the mentioned tubes for gas and/or grid > current. > The sensitivity control that you were looking for, for this set has a > substantial effect on the AVC, having basically direct control on the > 2nd IF and controlling the 'return' of the AVC so that as it is set to > drop more B+ return voltage [LT.][negative] it will tend to offset the > AVC negative and thus reduce the gain through all the RF/IF stages and > much reduce the AVC swing. You need to turn the Sensitivity control > full CW [R.T.] to see "normal" AVC action. > > Neil S. > Got the sensitivity control in, Neil... thanks for the reminder about setting it "full" for AVC measurements. Touched-up alignment and got oscillation until I replaced the glass 6Q7 that was in there with a metal one. (The original tubes were those sprayed shield things.) The AVC is much stronger now, but I haven't done exact measurements. This radio has some huge sound, but I'm still (in the midst of all this) hunting down an intermittent that requires a band change to get the BC band to come on full strength.. That's the big bugbear now. Seems like it's in/around the first IFT, but I'll try to narrow it down further and be sure before I dismantle the bandwidth mechanism (again) and look in there. At least I can "switch" the intermittent, and it's not totally random! Cheers, Nelson Article: 331646 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Walton speaker wanted Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 07:38:22 -0700 Message-ID: <2683-44200FDE-2777@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: <1142942218.109045.179210@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I will accept a walton without speaker . lets trade ! Article: 331647 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Another Cheap High End Zenith- Long Island, NY Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 07:51:12 -0700 Message-ID: <2683-442012E0-2779@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: <1142922194.755020.24650@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> out of your last 58 self published threads ... =A0 33 contain links to eBay auctions ... You know John has tried very hard to share some interesting projects and their progress or some nice storys about radio stuff and no one or few reply to most of them . Then This group gets few newbies so otherwise it's just the same people talking about the same old stuff. Because this place looks like an ebay group or an off topic group half the time . A topic like antique radios tends to repeat itself after years of existance . You either stick to it for others to learn or you dont . Article: 331648 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Iain Churches" Subject: Re: Mick's AX84 Thick Mary Build: Sound clip-full overdrive... Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:36:07 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1142909910.737482.149170@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1142917979.291440.261890@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1142919009.552637.290280@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1142956030.423491.185480@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> "RickH" wrote in message news:1142956030.423491.185480@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > > Iain Churches wrote: >> "Mick" wrote in message >> news:1142919009.552637.290280@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> > Hello Jim, >> > >> > Building with a turret board makes things really simple. All the >> > components need to connect to something, so using the TB gives us a >> > convenient place to do that. You can build the board outside the amp. >> > Of course, we might improve tone by moving the tone components right >> > onto the pots, or at least the MOJO says so. ;-) >> > >> > Mick >> > >> >> Agreed. Building with turret board is a very functional >> compromise between point to point and printed circuit boards. >> Unlike p to p, turret boards give predictable results and one >> can easily make changes. All components are supported at >> each end with very short wiring. They were often used in >> mil-spec valve equipment. >> >> I mount components on one side, and wire links on the other. >> >> This is a blank board with turrets inserted (2.65mm holes) >> and the 6mm feed.through holes to the valve base pins. >> http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Pics/203TurretBoard.02.jpg >> >> This is a board with components mounted, and link wires going to >> the valve base, which is mounted on a 6mm aluminium plate to which >> the turret board is attached by 30mm standoffs. >> http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Pics/203TurretBoard.04.jpg >> >> This is the finished module. It can be tested and modified before being >> fitted into the chassis-The vertical electrolytics have now been replaced >> by axial types. There are a couple of components missing still in the top >> row. >> http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Pics/203TurretBoard.05.jpg >> >> >> >> regards to all >> Iain > > Nice modular approach Iain. Then do you build a "dumb" backplane > chassis with power supply so that you can swap modules in/out easily? > Have you used this approach for the power amp stages too? I like it. Hello Rick. The module in the pics is for a preamp stage. The metal plate stands vertically in the chassis which is 200mm wide a 80mm high, like a bulkhead in a ship, so that the valves are horizonal and pointing forward. You can see the preamp and its separate psu at: http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Pics/202+PSUfront.jpg http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Pics/202+PSUrear.jpg This was an an early effort. The new psu is the same width 200m as the preamp. For power amplifiers, I use the same technique, with the turret board mounted horizontally below the top plate and the valves sticking through. Here is a pic of a 75W pp power amp proto which is up and running: http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Pics/M50board02.jpg Regards to all Iain > Article: 331649 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:44:18 -0800 Message-ID: References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> <1142949181.397811.327170@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:46:29 -0500, Stewart Schooley wrote: >For me, I can see how someone could take Gaudi and Bauhaus influences >and end up with the Chrysler building. An interesting theory, and probably true. >BTW, I still remember exactly where I was when I first saw the 1953 >Studebaker and knew I had to have one. Got a used one in '55. You had to >be there and see it with 1953 eyes. When I was growing up there were >still 1920s cars on the road, then the 1930s cars and the post war >years. The Stude was a revelation that cars could be so much more. The Raymond Loewy Starlight Coupe, right? It was Studebaker's styling challenge of 1953 that kicked GM, Ford, and especially Chrysler, right in the ass to let them know that "styling matters." GM responded with new middle and senior bodied cars in 1954 that were improved visually, while Chrysler and Ford puttered around until '55 to go head on with the fresh low end bodies GM came up with for Chevrolet and Pontiac. Chrysler, at a talent disadvantage, wound up with who would become the spokesman of excess in automotive styling, Virgil Exner, who completely went over the edge around 1958, and was designing unsaleable cars by 1961, one of Chrysler's worst years. GM was hardly much better; its 1959 product line came in a close second in "over the top" styling. The odd exception was Buick, whose finned but clean design was a big hit, especially when compared to the "Egyptian sun boat" motif of the '59 Cadillac and vitutally all other GM marques that year. Studebaker hit the Big 3 hard one more time in 1963 before falling apart due to familial greed and incompetence with the Loewy-designed Avanti. Despite what he says in his book, Ford division president Lee Iacocca got panicky over the Avanti, which led him to apply his first love, the long hood/short deck layout, to the Falcon platform, which made the Mustang...thus making Iacocca an auto industry titan. While Iacocca takes credit for this cheap 'n dirty project all for himself, it was surely Loewy and Studebaker who lit a fire under him to do so. One has to take everything Iacocca says with a grain of salt; he is, after all, a salesman, first and foremost. Fortunately, though, he had an engineering background and education, and thus made his sales ideas workable. Article: 331650 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: 11-tube Magnavox Table Set Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:21:41 -0500 Message-ID: <48b227Fjbn1oU1@individual.net> References: <1142862035.710379.292160@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1142873089.050840.146950@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1142887312.234888.321770@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <489478Finph5U1@individual.net> <1142913762.536528.20570@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> toxcrusadr wrote: > Thanks Rambler, that's great info. I thought it had to be a nice set > with so many tubes, if one can get past the boxy styling. It could > definitely be a daily player. > > Any chance of getting a pic of yours? Front and back? give me a day or two. got stuff stacked on it. -- The Shadow Knows Article: 331651 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1142968403.079856.11460@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Looking for a Panasonic Ranger 505 TV Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:27:50 GMT wrote in message news:1142968403.079856.11460@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I know this is not a TV forum, but figured it couldnt hurt. Looking > for an old B&W Panasonic Ranger TV. Please email me if you have one > for sale. jshima at timing dot com > They appear on eBay quite frequently, they are a pretty common set, and retail for usually well under $30. You may have to search under "panasonic TV" because it seems the seller's rarely list the model number when selling these. Here's one that closed recently for $16.39: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5879599636 The same set was sold under other brand names as well. jim menning Article: 331652 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: OT: Online forum software??? References: <1142975329.170124.38680@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:21:32 GMT Probably one of the better, more stable, bulletin board/forum packages I've seen is from the phpBB people. http://www.phpbb.com/features.php Also, you can have it hosted by these people for $8/month. http://www.canaca.com/ Jeff Mick wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Sorry about the OT. > > I'm looking for software (or a pay service) where a group of folks can > view a calendar, download files (admins upload files), and have news. > Anybody know of such a beast? > > I'm running UNIX for our web servers. It may be easier just to pay for > some service, and I'd be happy to for somewhere around $10-$20 per > month. > > Many thanks, > Mick > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331653 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tony Subject: Re: Please help me identify this Silvertone Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:12:33 -0500 Message-ID: References: Darrin wrote: > If anyone knows what model, or has any other info, please let me know. > I obtained this radio, and it has no model# It is a Silvertone. > > > http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5848/fd18mq.jpg Interesting. I can't find that radio in any of my books or the usual web sites. I even checked other manufacturers, and haven't found it. -- NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Article: 331654 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <17vu12pg8mnl8s616vkr7fq325c1os7ar7@4ax.com> <1vh022dgt3fvumq7bi0iema8reqc13im6b@4ax.com> <1142980245.443344.166260@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Walton speaker wanted Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:14:53 -0500 "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1142980245.443344.166260@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > better to just buy a set with the correct speaker and sell the one he > has. there is a 5 tube tombstone that has a speaker that looks the > same. no one would know but him. probably not even the person he (or > whoever) sells the set to eventually. > Exactly what I was about to suggest. The correct speaker is worth more than the radio; if he is a purist that's the way to go. Pete Article: 331655 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:00:57 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> In "William Sommerwerck" writes: >Interestingly, the particular item whose eBay auction I griped about was a >Polaroid SX-70. Although Dr. Land had great respect for the Eameses (they >produced several films for Polaroid, including one about the SX-70), Eames >had nothing to do with the SX-70's design -- which is plainly Art Deco. Designed by The Man in the Brown Suit, Henry Dreyfuss. He's also famous for the Western Electric 302 and Princess telephones, and the Honeywell round thermostat. I don't think the latter two qualify as deco. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331656 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:16:52 -0800 Message-ID: References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:00:57 +0000 (UTC), Tim Mullen wrote: >In "William Sommerwerck" writes: > >>Interestingly, the particular item whose eBay auction I griped about was a >>Polaroid SX-70. Although Dr. Land had great respect for the Eameses (they >>produced several films for Polaroid, including one about the SX-70), Eames >>had nothing to do with the SX-70's design -- which is plainly Art Deco. > > Designed by The Man in the Brown Suit, Henry Dreyfuss. He's also famous >for the Western Electric 302 and Princess telephones, and the Honeywell round >thermostat. I don't think the latter two qualify as deco. :) ...and the Honeywell T87 "The Round" is still being made today, although in a considerably cheaper form made in Mexico, with little of its previous accuracy. Honeywell, after being attacked by Jackass Welch of GE, is a bombed out shell with precious little to offer anymore. Dreyfuss was also famous for various steam locomotive streamlining jobs for the Pennsylvania and NYC. His stainless steel treatments of the NYC J3a Hudson are quite famous. Raymond Loewy also had fame in that department; he designed the GG1 electric for PRR, a unit which lasted for over 50 years and was as much a hallmark of the PRR as their old K4s steamers. Loewy also designed several early diesel-electric carbodies. It's quite a shame that the US no longer has great designers and stylists like it had in the '30s through '50s. In fact, the US doesn't design (much less build) much of anything at all anymore. Article: 331657 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:24:55 -0800 Message-ID: References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> <1142949181.397811.327170@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1142982689.452935.18500@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 21 Mar 2006 15:11:29 -0800, "Hand of Doom" wrote: >I read a lot of misconceptions here- first off, the 1950's were the Big >Three's best sales boom years. Again, Charlie Nudo, the asshat, can't read with comprehension, and misses the point of the whole thread. And yes, some of Chrysler's worst sales years are when Exner went "bonkers" circa 1959-'63.and was thrown out of the company. The 1964 model year showed a new, sensible and clean product line free of Exner's weirdness and predilection toward strange curvatures, and their sales in the mid '60s would nip at Ford's. The only thing that kept selling Chryslers back then was their superior engineering...torsion bar suspensions, Torqueflyte, the Slant 6, the Police Interceptor wedges...those worked. Exner's "over the top" styling didn't. And, this thread was about styling, asshat...not any of the spurious crap you came up with. >American made- the best there is ! And always will be ! Nothing is made in the US anymore...and what is, is generally crap. Better get off of Usenet, Noodles...eBay's watching you VERY closely. Article: 331658 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" References: <1142975329.170124.38680@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Online forum software??? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:37:44 GMT Look at Drupal at drupal.org. I'm setting up my family's forum using this. "Mick" wrote in message news:1142975329.170124.38680@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Hi Folks, > > Sorry about the OT. > > I'm looking for software (or a pay service) where a group of folks can > view a calendar, download files (admins upload files), and have news. > Anybody know of such a beast? > > I'm running UNIX for our web servers. It may be easier just to pay for > some service, and I'd be happy to for somewhere around $10-$20 per > month. > > Many thanks, > Mick > Article: 331659 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> In DeserTBoB writes: >It's quite a shame that the US no longer has great designers and >stylists like it had in the '30s through '50s. Sure we do. They're no longer lauded as rock stars like they were in the pre-war era, so they're not as visible. I believe the post atomic era public dismay with technology made it no longer fashionable to flaunt science and engineering, thus as design became more friendly and less in-your-face, so went the designer. Nevertheless, ID is alive and well in the U.S. of A. Check out Frog Design's c.v.: http://frogdesign.com/inside/timeline/index.html Plus, many hit automobiles of foreign make get their skins on in the shops of California, such as Volkswagen's New Beetle. > In fact, the US >doesn't design (much less build) much of anything at all anymore. We design the lion's share of cutting-edge technology. Who ya gonna buy your DSP from? :) Motorola's a good choice, and that's what's inside their Razr, one of the hottest must-have phones out there and a damn nifty example of industrial design. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331660 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Looking for Zenith chassis Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:09:08 -0700 Message-ID: <25085-4420A3B4-3170@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> 10S668 typical Zenith with black buttons both sides of a squarish dial . What i have here is a very restorable cabinet . Mice had just ruined the chassis . I