Article: 332410 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: For You Phono Guys Message-ID: Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:12:19 GMT > I don't know why, but those circular/spiral grooved things > just make you want to do neat stuff with them Here's a neat little trick you can do with a battery-powered player: Put the player on the seat of a swivel chair and start a record playing. Then spin the chair in the direction opposite to the rotation of the record. When you get the speed right, the record will appear stationary with the player spinning instead. -- Mike Schultz "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:e15ubd$7as$1@reader1.panix.com... > In "graham" > writes: > >>... check this out, watch the video, speakers on ... > >>http://www.grand-illusions.com/toycollection/record_runner/ > > I don't know why, but those circular/spiral grooved things > just make you want to do neat stuff with them. One of the > reasons, I think, that records have such a long and illustrious > history. > > "For those of you that don't remember vinyl records, they > are what people had before CDs, and they needed a special > turntable to play them." > > Oy! > > -- > Tim Mullen > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. > ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 332411 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: Free to good home, speakers (no ship) Denver References: <1144368248.579202.168280@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:18:27 -0700 Dave - I will take them. Look for my email. Bill Jeffrey ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`````` pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > I've got two pair of speakers plus a BSR (or is it JBL?) 15" subwoofer > taking up room in my garage that I need. Come by and pick them up, for > free!! One set of the wood cased speakers are Marantz. No bargaining. > No bargaining needed! What you see is what you get, for free! > Please, no pictures. No description. Just take them away. BTW, they > all sound great. As far as I can tell, there are no busted drivers. > Cosmetics are OK. Come, please, and make me and my wife happy, and you > too. > Dave > Article: 332412 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Unanticipated Loop From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1144256080.352812.116850@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1144410308.682074.44860@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:20:15 GMT In article <1144410308.682074.44860@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>, k6sti@n2.net says... > > Hi Brian.... yes on the open wire line... but that stuff is hard to come by these days. I picked up a piece this week thats about 100 feet long in a junk sale deal... old Ham that had passed away and selling off the junk etc.. many of the old radios have three terminals on them.. two shorted out to ground if only a single long wire is on the radio... or open it if you have a 2 wire antenna such as this with it... My buddy KD9SV of course makes these transformers mostly for the 160 and 80 meter crowd... and they also work well down into the BC band ... I have 4 short beverage antennas... all are about 400 feet long in 4 different directions.. all fed from same coaxial feedpoint which is about 200 feet away from the house ... amazing what those 400 foot wires hear on AM band... sometimes you can actually listen to two different stations by simply switching the antennas. Much better directivity or course up on the shortwave bands where the antennas are larger percentage of wavelength... John >John, what I use for general listening with an SX-42 is a 50' >horizontal wire center-fed with open-wire line. I did this to avoid >vertical conductors, which pick up local noise better than horizontal >ones. It's impossible to avoid a vertical component with a single-wire >antenna, even if you slant the initial part of its length. > >I picked 50' as roughly resonant in the 31m broadcast band, where I >listen most often. But what surprised me was that unlike a >low-impedance dipole, the resonance is completely unnoticeable in use. >I can't find a peak anywhere and the antenna works fine all across the >dial on any band. Below 5 MHz connecting the grounding link to one of >the antenna terminals increases signal strength, sometimes greatly, by >unbalancing the feeders and effectively converting the antenna into a >single conductor operating against the power-line ground. But the >receiver is sensitive enough to not need this trick. I do notice more >computer noise and power-line noise when I unbalance the line above 5 >MHz. > >I'm not sure how useful this kind of balanced antenna would be with an >old consumer radio instead of a boatanchor, though. Their SW antenna >inputs do not seem to have a floating ground terminal very often. > >True open-wire line is hard to find these days (I used a piece I've >been hoarding for decades) but the feeder impedance appears to be >noncritical as long as it's high. At HF, you can just use two parallel >wires without spacers. Their fields will pretty much cancel even if the >separation is a few feet. Just run two wires in opposite directions and >bring the ends down to the radio in a casual way. It should work fine. > >An alternative would be to use your transformer at the center of the >horizontal wire and feed with coax, with another transformer at the >radio to boost the impedance back up. I think that should work just >about as well as open-wire line. I wonder if you've tried this. > >By the way, I've tried 75:300-ohm VHF/UHF balun transformers between a >low-impedance, coax-fed dipole and a high-impedance boatanchor antenna >input (they seem to be specified as either 300 or 400 ohms) and it >seemed to raise the signal level at most frequencies. The little baluns >are specified above 5 MHz and their performance does drop off >noticeably below that frequency. > >Brian > Article: 332413 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1144374130.288800.234060@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1144377402.325167.50660@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1144377896.070772.168540@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <123bl32f0r55bef@corp.supernews.com> <1144379415.179183.43530@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1144380005.612551.290580@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1144381102.346569.294160@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1144384409.269958.199330@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: New in original box Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:58:34 -0400 "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:e15t5p$8mt$1@reader1.panix.com... > > Operating the set for an hour should be sufficent to tell if > it works. > Hardly qualifies as being new in box once it is powered up and used. Even less so if it was gone through by the seller. Peter Article: 332415 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: New in original box Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 21:46:09 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1144374130.288800.234060@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1144377402.325167.50660@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1144377896.070772.168540@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <123bl32f0r55bef@corp.supernews.com> <1144379415.179183.43530@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1144380005.612551.290580@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1144381102.346569.294160@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1144384409.269958.199330@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> In " Uncle Peter" writes: >"Tim Mullen" wrote in message >news:e15t5p$8mt$1@reader1.panix.com... >> > Operating the set for an hour should be sufficent to tell if >> it works. >Hardly qualifies as being new in box once it is powered >up and used. Even less so if it was gone through by >the seller. That's not the point I was responding to. You snipped the part where someone doubted the seller's claim that the radio worked, when in their previous paragraph the seller was quoted as saying the radio gave off a waxy smell after being powered up for an hour. Hence my response that you did quote above. Regardless, to address your point, also raised by others, I think turning a radio on for an hour, perhaps even two, doesn't disqualify it from claims of "new in box". By any reasonable standard no one expects a new car to have *never* been driven, not even a few feet off the assembly line. Considering the hundreds of thousands of hours of potential lifetime in such a set, an hour or two is equivalent to that drive off the factory floor. The point here would be to convey the condition of the radio, not to lay claim to a literal approach to literacy. Now, if someone claims "sealed in the box", then breaking the seal would obviously void that claim, whether the radio was subsequently plugged in or not. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 332416 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: The original "Close 'n Play" phonograph? (not mine) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 06:59:19 +0900 Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-vintage-philco-tube-78-RPM-record-player-works_W0QQitemZ6620045756 Article: 332417 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: The original "Close 'n Play" phonograph? (not mine) Message-ID: <_YCZf.34272$OC6.561167@weber.videotron.net> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:54:43 -0400 "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:e16nbf$7me$1@news2.kornet.net... > http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-vintage-philco-tube-78-RPM-record-player-works_W0QQitemZ6620045756 I have one of these. It's the portable version of the Philco "Bing Crosby" a.k.a. Turtle phono. 21 pounds is about right...Pretty heavy portable phono...No wonder the leather handles are missing on all of them... Syl Article: 332418 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <2898325gd6usr5a2rp0vtebgebkve6eful@4ax.com> Subject: Re: can an eBayer do this? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 00:45:18 GMT That just means no other performer can use the name. Trademarks are for specific uses, not universal. Acme is an example. It's the "Smith" of product names and the reason it was used in cartoons. There are hundreds of products and businesses named Acme, many trademarked. There's a chain called Acme Markets, Acme Brick Co., Acme Labs, Acme Electric, and on and on. Trademarks are not blanket. They are for specific uses. It's common throughout business, even entertainment. Take the name "Michael Fox". This was the name of an actor many years ago. He played bit parts and character roles. The easiest to find is his appearance as the little girl's father in "Young Frankenstein". Because of the name rule, a young actor with same name had to take the billing "Michael "J" Fox" when he came along. None of this prevents someone with the family name Fox from naming their son Michael. It just prevents someone from performing under the name if it causes confusion. If an accountant named Barry Manilow wants to hang out a shingle he's free to do so unless another firm trademarks it for similar uses. Harry & Ronnie Block have to use something other than H & R Block if they do taxes, though. Ray "Brian McAllister" wrote in message news:2898325gd6usr5a2rp0vtebgebkve6eful@4ax.com... > On a related subject, This is at the bottom of the page on > Manilow.com: > > " Barry Manilow is a registered trademark of Hastings, Clayton & > Tucker, Inc. All Rights Reserved." > > > > Brian McAllister > > Sarasota, Florida > > email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 332419 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Adios Earthstink Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 21:12:56 -0400 Message-ID: <123e3gsqjdsgpe8@corp.supernews.com> References: <1144456769.919256.35330@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Gary Tayman wrote: > > I have cancelled the Truevoice phone service, and am sending back all > the hardware for a (hopeful) refund. Be to use Delivery Confirmation or something. When I sent my DSL modem back to the slugs here they included a postpaid label for the box. It didn't go back to them...it went to a blind callbox at the main post office or something like that. The only thing the PO could sell me was a "Certificate of Mailing". Looked like an intentional setup to me. "Oh, we never received the box, you owe us $250" :) -Bill Article: 332420 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Silvertone Farm set... these are worth looking at Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 22:04:06 -0400 "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > dont. > > anyways, you can build a power supply for external hookup or hide it under > the chassis... and, have a real nice playing radio. > > Worth watching for these kind of sets. They go much cheaper than the AC > set version. > > Mark Oppat > > > What are all the controls? I love the starburst toning effect used on the cabinet, it looks better than many of their AC tombstones. Article: 332421 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Are all series-string radios & TVs junky by definition? Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 22:03:57 -0400 Message-ID: <123e6glkbecrsab@corp.supernews.com> References: <1144077141.789819.235690@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <16380-44314808-468@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> "Bill Sheppard" wrote in message news:16380-44314808-468@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net... > > And don't forget the Hallicrafters S-38, the little series-stringer that > was many a kid's intro to an avocation in radio. > oc > I'm surprised no one has brought up the Hallicrafters S-22R, a marine use AC/DC set with a bizarre 1600 kHz IF. Also the Pilot 370 and others, 11 tubes including eye. John H. Article: 332422 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stan" References: <1144256080.352812.116850@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1144351747.234710.140290@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <6doZf.880586$x96.322208@attbi_s72> Subject: Re: Unanticipated Loop Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 23:26:15 -0230 "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:6doZf.880586$x96.322208@attbi_s72... > In article <1144351747.234710.140290@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, > k6sti@n2.net says... >> >> >>I visited a guy a couple months ago who had the transformer at the end >>of the coax and then a single wire without a ground. Even though he was >>an EE, he was surprised when I pointed out that he wasn't reducing >>noise with that setup. >> >>Brian >> > > Yup if you don't ground the 2nd transformer you will get all the > crap picked up by the whole length of the coax back into all the > noise makers in your house ... > > John k9uwa > Anyone know the typical impedance ratio of those transformers? I have about 40 feet of wire from chimney to a tree with about 30 feet of RG58 down to the bench in the basement, to be hooked up. I'm about to wind say a 50 turn coil on a toilet roll size former to be mounted in a waterproof box on roof. Planning to tap coil at say 5, 10, and 16 turns. (Auto transformer with bottom end of coil grounded at roof by a separate ground wire). the ground wire also supposed to 'drain off' any static that could build if system not grounded anywhere. Turns Ratio: Z Ratio: 50/5 = 10 10 x 10 = 100 to 1 Assumed antenna Z = Coax 50 x 100 = 5000 50/10 = 5 5 x 5 = 25 to 1 Assumed antenna Z = 50 x 25 = 1250 50/16 = 3.1 3.1 x 3.1 = 10 to 1 Antenna Z = 50 x 10 = 500 Antenna will mainly be used with a short-wave radio with a low Z loop input. Any comments? Article: 332423 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: Subject: Re: Silvertone Farm set... these are worth looking at Message-ID: <36FZf.40770$Da7.21168@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 02:20:47 GMT Marks right! I picked up a couple real cheap at Kutztown in the fall cause they were farm sets... and when I got them home I though... Man! These are pretty nice! and all I have to do is add a power supply! KEith "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:w5SdnWVjLd4ZhKrZRVn-gQ@comcast.com... > this closed on ebay... > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6618545516&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 > here is an example of a higher end "Farm" radio....this one is a > Silvertone. > These usually have the same front end as the AC sets, but the output > stages > are weaker and they have typically lesser grade speakers.. although some > dont. > > anyways, you can build a power supply for external hookup or hide it under > the chassis... and, have a real nice playing radio. > > Worth watching for these kind of sets. They go much cheaper than the AC > set version. > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 332424 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" Subject: Philco tuning shaft gizmo Q Message-ID: <98FZf.40771$Da7.2590@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 02:23:01 GMT OK, I have the two speed tuning shaft gizmo out of my 38-116. Its good, pretty smooth but I wanted to take it apart and relube it but the only clue to its coming apart is a roll pin on one side... that sure dont look likely to come out! What is the trick to taking these apart? SHOULD I take it apart? or just try to lube it? Thanks, Keith Article: 332425 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Unanticipated Loop From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1144256080.352812.116850@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1144351747.234710.140290@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <6doZf.880586$x96.322208@attbi_s72> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 03:00:46 GMT In article , stanford@nf.sympatico.ca says... > > > The antenna is ballpark 600-900 ohms ... so thats about what you want to match back to the 50 ohm coax.. 10 / 1 or 12/1 should be OK... my buddy makes the things out of toroids and coils... don't forget to put a wire to ground from the transformer ... otherwise you will get all the house noise down the shield and into the radio.. John >>>Brian >>> >> >> Yup if you don't ground the 2nd transformer you will get all the >> crap picked up by the whole length of the coax back into all the >> noise makers in your house ... >> >> John k9uwa >> >Anyone know the typical impedance ratio of those transformers? >I have about 40 feet of wire from chimney to a tree with about 30 feet of >RG58 down to the bench in the basement, to be hooked up. I'm about to wind >say a 50 turn coil on a toilet roll size former to be mounted in a >waterproof box on roof. Planning to tap coil at say 5, 10, and 16 turns. >(Auto transformer with bottom end of coil grounded at roof by a separate >ground wire). the ground wire also supposed to 'drain off' any static that >could build if system not grounded anywhere. >Turns Ratio: Z Ratio: >50/5 = 10 10 x 10 = 100 to 1 Assumed >antenna Z = Coax 50 x 100 = 5000 >50/10 = 5 5 x 5 = 25 to 1 Assumed >antenna Z = 50 x 25 = 1250 >50/16 = 3.1 3.1 x 3.1 = 10 to 1 Antenna Z = >50 x 10 = 500 >Antenna will mainly be used with a short-wave radio with a low Z loop input. >Any comments? > > > Article: 332426 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Adios Earthstink Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:52:42 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1144456769.919256.35330@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <123e3gsqjdsgpe8@corp.supernews.com> - exray - wrote: > Gary Tayman wrote: > >> >> I have cancelled the Truevoice phone service, and am sending back all >> the hardware for a (hopeful) refund. > > > Be to use Delivery Confirmation or something. When I sent my DSL modem > back to the slugs here they included a postpaid label for the box. It > didn't go back to them...it went to a blind callbox at the main post > office or something like that. The only thing the PO could sell me was > a "Certificate of Mailing". > > Looked like an intentional setup to me. "Oh, we never received the box, > you owe us $250" > > :) > I don't think they give a damn if they ever get some of this stuff back.... I have a USB DSL modem that I only used for three months that SBC was supposed to get back. It got buried in a big pile of junk that I didn't touch for almost a year after I moved. Not only did they not charge me for the modem, they didn't even hit me for the early termination fee for having the service less than a year. When I was able to get DSL service again in my new house (it took them almost a year to upgrade the CO in my new location), I got a different modem that connected to the ethernet port instead of USB. It has always worked fine, but I have managed to acquire two or three others just like it at fleas in case the original one craps out. One of these was still in the sealed box and bag. I've also found a twin of the USB unit I had earlier, which comes in handy during our all-too-frequent power interruptions, since it is powered by the USB port and will plug right into my battery-powered laptop. (DSL RULES if your power source is spotty-the phone lines never go out, unlike cable). I see these things all the time at the local fleas around here......I would think that if people were actually hit with charges for this kind of unreturned equipment, I wouldn't see so much of it in the grey market.....They outnumber cable boxes (a fairly expensive rented device) by dozens to one at the fleas I attend. In another case, my wife got talked into trying out cell phone service >from a provider (Cingular) that I knew would never work here in the mountains. They sent us the phones (two fairly nice Sony Ericsson units), and we never activated them. I put the phones in my car trunk intending to ship them back, and forgot all about them. It's been about two years, and not a peep from Cingular. Most of these things are made in China, and probably wholesale for less that what it costs to ship them. For all I know, I was saving these companies some money by not returning the stuff. The drop that your returned DSL modem went to was probably the very cheapest place to ship in the world from your location, or close to it. -Scott -- NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Article: 332427 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Adios Earthstink Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 00:00:17 -0400 Message-ID: <123edalkbdd2i7e@corp.supernews.com> References: <1144456769.919256.35330@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <123e3gsqjdsgpe8@corp.supernews.com> Scott W. Harvey wrote: > > I don't think they give a damn if they ever get some of this stuff back.... You're probably right. I still have a cellphone I signed up for in the mid-90s. When I tried to turn it in they told me I needed to go to another office...in a city 30 miles away. But if you get into a pissing match over the bill several months later thats something they can hold over you. -ex Article: 332428 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Applying decals Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 00:21:00 -0400 Message-ID: <123eehgr7vfds7d@corp.supernews.com> References: <1144465940.454392.59120@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Kenny wrote: > I'm in the process of refinishing an RCA 5T tombstone. It's turning out > quite well. Now it's time to apply the "RCA Victor" decal. If this were > one of my model planes, I would simply apply several coats of clear > acrylic, apply the decal, then apply several more coats of acrylic to > seal in the decal. > Since this is a lacquer finish, will there be any issues applying a > water-slide decal? I'm using a brushing lacquer and rubbing out between > coats. I'm afraid the moisture from applying the decal might be a > problem... Also, what might happen to the decal when a subsequent coat > of lacquer is applied? > Any input would be appreciated. > Thanks! > Ken > Lacquer won't inherently ruin the decal but since you're brushing I'd be very careful. In a spray scenario the solvents affect the decal a tad but it cures out ok. Just float the lacquer over it in one single pass of the brush without letting the bristles touch and you'll be ok. Be sure to let it dry several hours before lacquering over. You'd be surprised how much of a mini-blush environment a decal can create due to its trapping moisture. On the plus side, the brushing lacquer is loaded with retarder so it should be a non-issue. -Bill Article: 332429 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Phipps" Subject: Re: The original "Close 'n Play" phonograph? (not mine) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 23:23:42 -0500 Message-ID: <123eemtdrp10hc3@corp.supernews.com> References: Hard to believe the seller's comment... "I put a record in this and it works." The turntable might still spin, but I'd suspect it has a crystal cartridge that dried out long ago. SP "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:e16nbf$7me$1@news2.kornet.net... > http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-vintage-philco-tube-78-RPM-record-player-works_W0QQitemZ6620045756 Article: 332430 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" Subject: gimmicks in RF transformers Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 23:57:32 -0500 I have a radio here with gimmick caps coupling from the RF coil primaries to the secondaries; not much more than a quarter inch of wire, but the B+ on the primary windings vs the grid bias on the secondaries, with little more than enameled wire nested side by side makes me nervous about shorting. What would the function of the gimmick be... broaden the tuning? Would the radio miss it? Nelson Article: 332431 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4437469A.7F559DF0@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: can an eBayer do this? References: <2898325gd6usr5a2rp0vtebgebkve6eful@4ax.com> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 05:14:31 GMT Rune wrote: > > That just means no other performer can use the name. Trademarks are for > specific uses, not universal. > > Acme is an example. It's the "Smith" of product names and the reason it was > used in cartoons. > > There are hundreds of products and businesses named Acme, many trademarked. > There's a chain called Acme Markets, Acme Brick Co., Acme Labs, Acme > Electric, and on and on. Don't forget "Acme Crushed Stone", owned by one of my uncles, up in Kentucky. ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 332432 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: gimmicks in RF transformers Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 01:14:33 -0400 Message-ID: <123ehls3pgn3m5c@corp.supernews.com> References: Nelson Gietz wrote: > What would the function of the gimmick be... broaden > the tuning? Increases the coupling Would the radio miss it? Nah, the engineers were just fooling around that day :) More details on the actual radio? -Bill Article: 332433 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <443749D9.1673C6F0@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Adios Earthstink References: <1144456769.919256.35330@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <123e3gsqjdsgpe8@corp.supernews.com> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 05:28:24 GMT "Scott W. Harvey" wrote: > > When I was able to get DSL service again in my new house (it took them > almost a year to upgrade the CO in my new location), I got a different > modem that connected to the ethernet port instead of USB. It has always > worked fine, but I have managed to acquire two or three others just like > it at fleas in case the original one craps out. One of these was still > in the sealed box and bag. I've also found a twin of the USB unit I had > earlier, which comes in handy during our all-too-frequent power > interruptions, since it is powered by the USB port and will plug right > into my battery-powered laptop. (DSL RULES if your power source is > spotty-the phone lines never go out, unlike cable). I see these things > all the time at the local fleas around here......I would think that if > people were actually hit with charges for this kind of unreturned > equipment, I wouldn't see so much of it in the grey market.....They > outnumber cable boxes (a fairly expensive rented device) by dozens to > one at the fleas I attend. My cable service was back up before the landline after the hurricanes two years ago. Brighthouse sent trucks around with generators to charge the batteries in their UPSs before power was restored to my neighborhood. My dad lives next door, and was able to watch TV while his generator was running their well pump and refrigerator. The phones were out about a week longer than the cable, and cell phone service was very spotty, till after the landlines were all restored. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 332434 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44374C39.16CD8273@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: OT: Tornados and damage around Nashville Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 05:38:31 GMT Jakdedert, and maybe a couple other posters on this newsgroup live in the Nashville, Tennesse area. WSM radio was reporting on the tornados, damage and 11 deaths for several hours, late Friday evening. I emailed Jakdedert, but haven't heard from him yet. There are a lot of homes without electricity, so it may take a while to hear from him, if he's OK. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 332435 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <123ehls3pgn3m5c@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: gimmicks in RF transformers Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 00:57:53 -0500 "- exray -" wrote in message news:123ehls3pgn3m5c@corp.supernews.com... > Nelson Gietz wrote: > What would the function of the gimmick be... broaden > > the tuning? > > Increases the coupling > > Would the radio miss it? > >Nah, the engineers were just fooling around that day :) >More details on the actual radio? > -Bill Thanks for the response Bill. After hunting all over the internet, I couldn't find it. Finally saw some equivalent circuits in the 1051 ARRL handbook here. There's still a place for paper! Anyway, it's a Majestic Frontenac (Rogers 10-85) that has some hifi pretensions, like variable IF bandwidth. The trouble spot is in the second RF transformer assembly, between the RF stage and the mixer. I'm thinking the increased coupling is to broaden the bandwidth??????? The assembly accomadates four bands in one can. Three of the secondaries were open and I got them fixed. (Eyesight will never be the same!) But you can guess how that is to work on, and I don't want to go back in again, so I want to make sure there are no possible shorts. The gimmick on the BC section is a quarter inch of about #38 AWG fabric covered wire (from the primary, with B+ of 230V) lying right against the enamel wire of the BC secondary. Cheers, Nelson Article: 332436 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: gimmicks in RF transformers Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 02:36:48 -0400 Message-ID: <123emg4t32tj319@corp.supernews.com> References: <123ehls3pgn3m5c@corp.supernews.com> Nelson Gietz wrote: > I want to make sure there are no possible shorts. The gimmick on the BC > section is a quarter inch of about #38 AWG fabric covered wire (from the > primary, with B+ of 230V) lying right against the enamel wire of the BC > secondary. > Cheers, > Nelson Gimmicks like that would only a couple pf at best and moving it slightly to make it more comfortable probably wouldn't hurt anything. Philips used gimmick trimmers....a dozen turns of small wire like that around a bare lead...in lieu or trimmer caps in the late 40s/early 50s. I've never heard of one shorting but I suppose the potential is there. I tend to think its safer than it looks. -Bill Article: 332437 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <123ehls3pgn3m5c@corp.supernews.com> <123emg4t32tj319@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: gimmicks in RF transformers Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 02:10:51 -0500 "- exray -" wrote in message news:123emg4t32tj319@corp.supernews.com... > Nelson Gietz wrote: > > > > I want to make sure there are no possible shorts. The gimmick on the BC > > section is a quarter inch of about #38 AWG fabric covered wire (from the > > primary, with B+ of 230V) lying right against the enamel wire of the BC > > secondary. > > Cheers, > > Nelson > > Gimmicks like that would only a couple pf at best and moving it slightly > to make it more comfortable probably wouldn't hurt anything. > > Philips used gimmick trimmers....a dozen turns of small wire like that > around a bare lead...in lieu or trimmer caps in the late 40s/early 50s. > I've never heard of one shorting but I suppose the potential is there. > > I tend to think its safer than it looks. > > -Bill Thanks, Bill. I'll do it. (tomorrow). Nelson Article: 332438 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1144465679.166330.39990@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: EM34 and TV-7D/U Tube Tester Settings?????? Message-ID: <1iMZf.3060$Q92.2098@trnddc04> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 10:31:25 GMT Supposedly, the EM34 is equivalent to the 6CD7. That should be in your chart. -- Mike Schultz wrote in message news:1144465679.166330.39990@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Anyone know the settings for the EM34 tuning eye tube on a TV-7D/U tube > tester? My chart doesn't show this tube. > > Thanks, > Kelly > Article: 332439 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: EM34 and TV-7D/U Tube Tester Settings?????? References: <1144465679.166330.39990@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1iMZf.3060$Q92.2098@trnddc04> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 12:45:58 GMT Yup it's 6CD7. Should be in your data, if not go here and download the spreadsheet http://www.acadiacom.net/nlee/tv-7_index.html Mike Schultz wrote: > Supposedly, the EM34 is equivalent to the 6CD7. That should be in your > chart. > Article: 332440 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <1144374130.288800.234060@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1144377402.325167.50660@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: New in original box Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:42:05 -0400 Message-ID: <4437bda4$0$1012$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> I myself am selling two sets I recently purchased from the 'bay. I bought one to figure out how to build the battery, the other because it had an original battery. I cleaned and restored both sets, made repro batteries for both of 'em. Pretty satisfying.... :-) "philo" wrote in message news:hOOdndyCmPi5N6vZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@athenet.net... > Steven wrote: >> Syl wrote: >> >>>"Dave" wrote in message >>>news:1144374130.288800.234060@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >>> >>>>The seller says this RCA radio from 1940s is new in box never used >>>>http://cgi.ebay.com/Beautiful-working-1940s-RCA-licensed-wood-radio_W0QQitemZ6617626691QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >>> >>>The box sure looks new and unused, so that must be true. >>> >>>Syl >> >> >> That's the A** with the "copyright" >> >> How do you know it's "working" if it's Never Used??? >> > > > if it's still in the box... > then the warranty may still be in effect :) Article: 332441 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Let's be careful out there... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:43:03 GMT I finally got a shop of my own to set my business. So, I've been busy this last week doing dome remodeling. Ok, I stepped on a 4x4 and it "rolled" from underneath me. As I proceeded to fall, I grabbed the edge of the desk. Unfortunately, I kept going. As I hit the ground, I distinctly heard some go snap am I immediately realized my arm was wrong. Chuck drove me dow to Little Company of Mary. I got there around 6 PM and didn't get out until after 1 AM The good news is that I dislocated my shoulder. The bad news is that I did manage to get a small factored as well.. Typing with one hand really sucks. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 332442 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <36FZf.40770$Da7.21168@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Silvertone Farm set... these are worth looking at Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:43:58 -0400 Message-ID: <4437be15$0$1012$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> I'm starting to get requests to build repro farm batteries. I'm building one for a Philco 39-70 as we speak. "Keith Park" wrote in message news:36FZf.40770$Da7.21168@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Marks right! I picked up a couple real cheap at Kutztown in the fall > cause they were farm sets... and when I got them home I though... Man! > These are pretty nice! and all I have to do is add a power supply! > > KEith > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:w5SdnWVjLd4ZhKrZRVn-gQ@comcast.com... >> this closed on ebay... >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6618545516&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 >> here is an example of a higher end "Farm" radio....this one is a >> Silvertone. >> These usually have the same front end as the AC sets, but the output >> stages >> are weaker and they have typically lesser grade speakers.. although some >> dont. >> >> anyways, you can build a power supply for external hookup or hide it >> under >> the chassis... and, have a real nice playing radio. >> >> Worth watching for these kind of sets. They go much cheaper than the AC >> set version. >> >> Mark Oppat >> >> >> > > Article: 332443 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <123eemtdrp10hc3@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: The original "Close 'n Play" phonograph? (not mine) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:46:51 -0400 Message-ID: <4437bec2$0$1012$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Y'know, I would have thought so too. But a few years ago, a lady wanted me to restore her 48-1256. I told her I'd probably have to replace the cartridge, but she said it worked fine. And it did. Only thing I could figure was that the set was stored away in a dry place, and moisture never got to the crystal. "Steve Phipps" wrote in message news:123eemtdrp10hc3@corp.supernews.com... > Hard to believe the seller's comment... "I put a record in this and it > works." The turntable might still spin, but I'd suspect it has a crystal > cartridge that dried out long ago. > > SP > > "Brenda Ann" wrote in message > news:e16nbf$7me$1@news2.kornet.net... > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-vintage-philco-tube-78-RPM-record-player-works_W0QQitemZ6620045756 > > From adouglasatgis.net Tue Apr 11 10:43:31 EDT 2006 Article: 332444 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Sound woes on RCA 630TS TV Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:36:36 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <5E8Zf.1$fW6.0@fe07.lga> <1llb32dr9s4otl2l9crqhrnrlo5q9dbnmv@4ax.com> <6u-dnV6nZfgPRKvZRVn-qw@giganews.com> <1144450369.892756.291140@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-162.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:332444 Hi, Phil wrote: >Well, that's interesting reading. I spent another hour or two playing around >with the sweep generator, sig gen, and scope. I set up for a couple of >different tests in the sound alignment instructions, and could never get >anything resembling a useful display. Guess I just need to buy a decent >sweep generator and find something else to work on in the meantime. It took me a long time to get things configured properly too. Before you find the magic arrangement, you can't tell if it's your setup or the TV simply isn't working. You might try sweeping a single IF transformer, out of the TV, to verify that the test gear is working. I guess you'd need to rig a detector diode too, or a demodulator probe for the scope. Alan -- NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Article: 332445 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Let's be careful out there... Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 10:24:36 -0400 Message-ID: <123fht6t7fo6ea7@corp.supernews.com> References: Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Ok, I stepped on a 4x4 and it "rolled" from underneath me. As I > proceeded to fall, I grabbed the edge of the desk. Unfortunately, > I kept going. As I hit the ground, I distinctly heard some go > snap am I immediately realized my arm was wrong. > Ouch! - Sorry to hear that. Hope you have a quick recovery. -ex Article: 332446 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Let's be careful out there... References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 14:36:58 GMT philo wrote: > Hope you make a speedy recovery.... Thanks... > Before I had a "pull-down" stairway installed... > I used to get up into my attic by removing a single "drop ceiling" tile... > then getting on a step ladder and pulling my self up through the opening. > > once day, comming down... I slipped and instinctively just grabbed at > the "drop ceiling" tiles... > > the entire drop ceiling came down at once! About 10 years ago, I got away with bodslamming a fire chief. I was doing a site survey at their main station, and there was a pipe fitter up in the dropped ceiling. The Rigid pip threader slipped off the platform it was on and came through the ceiling. I'd heard the "aw shity, look out!" And bodyslammed the chief out of the way. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 332447 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: please help with this crosley 655 power supply From: "craig yuen" Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 11:03:10 EDT i'm working on a crosley 655, the schematic is available on nostalgia air here: http://http://www.nostalgiaair.org/Resources/555/M0003555.htm what is puzzling to me is that the schematic doesn't match the radio. look at the filter caps marked 10X, 10Y and 10Z on the schematic. the radio has a three section capacitor but according to the schematic, there isn't a common connection for the 3 caps. my radio has the + side of 10Z connected to the center-tap of the transformer and the (i'm assuming) common connection of the 3 caps to ground. since my radio doesn't match the schematic, i wired in the new caps the way the radio was originally wired, the 10Z runs very hot and eventually you hear an arching sound, i'm guessing the cap is about to fail. any ideas, suggestions??? i'm confused. thanks. craig -- ------------------------------------------------------- craig yuen -- cyuen@optonline.net craigyuen@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------- Article: 332448 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <123eemtdrp10hc3@corp.supernews.com> <4437bec2$0$1012$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Subject: Re: The original "Close 'n Play" phonograph? (not mine) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 10:43:16 -0400 "Bill Morris" wrote in message news:4437bec2$0$1012$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net... > Y'know, I would have thought so too. But a few years ago, a lady wanted > me to restore her 48-1256. I told her I'd probably have to replace the > cartridge, but she said it worked fine. And it did. Only thing I could > figure was that the set was stored away in a dry place, and moisture never > got to the crystal. Quite possible. I had a few phonos and especially a Boomerang Philco radio/phono all original, never touched. The cartridge did play. But only for a few minutes, then it self destroyed like they _all_ do. I also suspect it was stored in a dry place. Syl Article: 332449 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Let's be careful out there... Message-ID: <9%PZf.47745$OC6.805418@weber.videotron.net> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 10:44:33 -0400 "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:H5PZf.27$3W1.17@tornado.socal.rr.com... >I finally got a shop of my own to set my business. So, I've been > busy this last week doing dome remodeling. > > Ok, I stepped on a 4x4 and it "rolled" from underneath me. As I proceeded > to fall, I grabbed the edge of the desk. Unfortunately, > I kept going. As I hit the ground, I distinctly heard some go > snap am I immediately realized my arm was wrong. > > Chuck drove me dow to Little Company of Mary. I got there around > 6 PM and didn't get out until after 1 AM > > The good news is that I dislocated my shoulder. The bad news is > that I did manage to get a small factored as well.. > > Typing with one hand really sucks. > > Jeff Idiot ! Syl Article: 332450 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "t.hoehler" References: <1144374130.288800.234060@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <123bhtrlcl7u119@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: New in original box Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 15:30:54 GMT "- exray -" wrote in message news:123bhtrlcl7u119@corp.supernews.com... > Dave wrote: > >> The seller says this RCA radio from 1940s is new in box never used >> http://cgi.ebay.com/Beautiful-working-1940s-RCA-licensed-wood-radio_W0QQitemZ6617626691QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >> > > See: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6608260241 Forgive me if this sounds stupid, but there is no name on either one of these radios. The origiinal listing says "RCA licensed" but this is not an RCA, is it? And the shipping box says siimply RADIO on it. I have never seen a back cover so plain and with no graphics whatever. This looks to me like a generic off brand. Am I right? Thanks for the info. Regards, Tom Article: 332451 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Let's be careful out there... Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:48:02 -0600 Message-ID: <15980-4437DB32-356@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: Your own shop & business ... how exciting ! Tell me more ( email ok ) I am also beginnig my own `biz` . I also fell down one of those $#&&^$% ceilng pull down latters years ago It knocked the wind out of me . Carfull Jeff . Hope you get over that fast . Article: 332452 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Let's be careful out there... References: <9%PZf.47745$OC6.805418@weber.videotron.net> Message-ID: <_eRZf.51$543.39@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:09:30 GMT Syl wrote: > Idiot ! Thanks Syl, I knew I could count on you for wrods of kindness and insipation. ;-) Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 332453 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Let's be careful out there... References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:13:38 GMT philo wrote: > Jeff wrote: > >> >> And bodyslammed the chief >> out of the way. > > That could have killed him! > > wow Rectum hell, damn near killed him. The Cheif's first reaction was along the lines of "How dare you toych me?" Then after he realized what just happened, I got a thank you and a free lunch. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 332454 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: Subject: Re: Let's be careful out there... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:23:24 -0700 One summer I was working roof construction. I was drilling with a Hole Hog , 3 stories up, through a joist hanger, with a 1 inch bit. I was putting everything I had in to digging that bit into the gluelam..... The bit stuck and the motor torque'd out of the hand. I got whacked hard in the jaw and saw stars.... I body slammed myself, right to the floor of the scaffold I was on. I tried to drop like a rock, so as not to fall off the scaffold and drop 3 stories... I am glad I didn't make construction a career!!!!!! Get better quick!!! Bob in phx. "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:SiRZf.48$WA3.47@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > philo wrote: > >> Jeff wrote: >> >>> >>> And bodyslammed the chief >>> out of the way. >> >> That could have killed him! >> >> wow > > Rectum hell, damn near killed him. > > The Cheif's first reaction was along the lines of "How dare you > toych me?" Then after he realized what just happened, I got a > thank you and a free lunch. > > Jeff > > > -- > RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to > the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal > force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED > under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 332455 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Barry" References: Subject: Re: Let's be careful out there... Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 11:39:30 -0500 Message-ID: <61b07$4437e6e7$18d649b3$17068@KNOLOGY.NET> "Bob in Phx" wrote in message news:ZrRZf.48$XV5.37@fed1read10... > One summer I was working roof construction. I was drilling with a Hole Hog , > 3 stories up, through a joist hanger, with a 1 inch bit. I was putting > everything I had in to digging that bit into the gluelam..... The bit stuck > and the motor torque'd out of the hand. I got whacked hard in the jaw and > saw stars.... I body slammed myself, right to the floor of the scaffold I > was on. I tried to drop like a rock, so as not to fall off the scaffold and > drop 3 stories... I am glad I didn't make construction a career!!!!!! > > Get better quick!!! Remind me never to ask any of you guys to help me work on my house... Barry - N4BUQ Article: 332456 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: can an eBayer do this? Message-ID: <9pqf3210hfg0idqdmko019bnvkimomlq69@4ax.com> References: <2898325gd6usr5a2rp0vtebgebkve6eful@4ax.com> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:56:55 GMT On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 00:45:18 GMT, "Rune" wrote: >Because of the name rule, a young actor with same name had to take the >billing "Michael "J" Fox" when he came along. The Actor Stewart Granger chose that name because his real name, James Stewart, was already taken. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 332457 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: New in original box Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 12:56:56 -0400 Message-ID: <123fqqt2ei4mna6@corp.supernews.com> References: <1144374130.288800.234060@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <123bhtrlcl7u119@corp.supernews.com> t.hoehler wrote: > > Forgive me if this sounds stupid, but there is no name on either one of > these radios. The origiinal listing says "RCA licensed" but this is not an > RCA, is it? And the shipping box says siimply RADIO on it. I have never seen > a back cover so plain and with no graphics whatever. This looks to me like a > generic off brand. Am I right? Thanks for the info. > Regards, > Tom > > Here's one of the same that the seller identifies as a Lafayette. Since its a no-name radio it may have been sold under other names as well. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6618665910 -Bill Article: 332458 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <61b07$4437e6e7$18d649b3$17068@KNOLOGY.NET> Subject: Re: Let's be careful out there... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 10:15:37 -0700 I've still got, after 45 years, all my fingers and toes,,, but the day is young!!!!!! bob in phx "Barry" wrote in message news:61b07$4437e6e7$18d649b3$17068@KNOLOGY.NET... > > "Bob in Phx" wrote in message > news:ZrRZf.48$XV5.37@fed1read10... >> One summer I was working roof construction. I was drilling with a Hole >> Hog > , >> 3 stories up, through a joist hanger, with a 1 inch bit. I was putting >> everything I had in to digging that bit into the gluelam..... The bit > stuck >> and the motor torque'd out of the hand. I got whacked hard in the jaw and >> saw stars.... I body slammed myself, right to the floor of the scaffold I >> was on. I tried to drop like a rock, so as not to fall off the scaffold > and >> drop 3 stories... I am glad I didn't make construction a career!!!!!! >> >> Get better quick!!! > > Remind me never to ask any of you guys to help me work on my house... > > Barry - N4BUQ > > Article: 332459 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1144523376.142580.294500@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: What was this Zenith base cabinet for? Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 14:44:25 -0500 Message-ID: <44380d1e$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> It's the bottom half of an 8S463. "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1144523376.142580.294500@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... > Ebay. Not mine (disclaimer)..looks like base from 8S4xx from 1940. > 9707899478 > Article: 332460 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: OT: Tornados and damage around Nashville References: <44374C39.16CD8273@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:27:23 -0500 Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Jakdedert, and maybe a couple other posters on this newsgroup live in > the Nashville, Tennesse area. WSM radio was reporting on the tornados, > damage and 11 deaths for several hours, late Friday evening. I emailed > Jakdedert, but haven't heard from him yet. There are a lot of homes > without electricity, so it may take a while to hear from him, if he's > OK. > > I composed and sent a lengthy answer last night. Apparently it didn't get to the group. The short answer--all I have time for--is that everything in my corner of Nashvegas is hunky-dory...nothing more than a few flickers of the lights, some dime-sized hail, lots o' rain. Other parts didn't fare so well, but you can tell that from the news reports. Thanks for asking. jak Article: 332461 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Let's be careful out there... Message-ID: <7sag32t8tir5ifmit69vgppuo0h9e7advi@4ax.com> References: <9%PZf.47745$OC6.805418@weber.videotron.net> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:31:22 -0400 On Sat, 8 Apr 2006 10:44:33 -0400, "Syl" wrote: >"Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message >news:H5PZf.27$3W1.17@tornado.socal.rr.com... >>I finally got a shop of my own to set my business. So, I've been >> busy this last week doing dome remodeling. >> >> Ok, I stepped on a 4x4 and it "rolled" from underneath me. As I proceeded >> to fall, I grabbed the edge of the desk. Unfortunately, >> I kept going. As I hit the ground, I distinctly heard some go >> snap am I immediately realized my arm was wrong. >> >> Chuck drove me dow to Little Company of Mary. I got there around >> 6 PM and didn't get out until after 1 AM >> >> The good news is that I dislocated my shoulder. The bad news is >> that I did manage to get a small factored as well.. >> >> Typing with one hand really sucks. >> >> Jeff > > >Idiot ! > >Syl > Pot, Kettle, Black... Article: 332462 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Phipps" Subject: Re: Let's be careful out there... Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 18:10:48 -0500 Message-ID: <123ggnr15il3358@corp.supernews.com> References: A few years ago I was leaning against a makeshift fence post on a ledge about 12 feet above a creek bed. Well... you can easily guess what happened and where I went. Landed face down. Badly shattered my left arm and thank God that was all. Accidents like that really make you think "safety first" >from then on... Steve P. "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:H5PZf.27$3W1.17@tornado.socal.rr.com... > The good news is that I dislocated my shoulder. The bad news is > that I did manage to get a small factored as well.. Article: 332463 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Teletalk Intercoms Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:50:31 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 14:56:35 -0400, Ken wrote: >Anyone here restore old intercoms? I have a set, in great shape, but no >documentation. Total weight is 36 pounds from zip 24018. Asking $25 for >all plus shipping. Pics on binaries. Ken Ah yes...the old Webster Electric Teletalks. Been years since I worked on one of those! Article: 332464 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "ExtraClass" Subject: Webster-Chicago Wire Recorder Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 19:53:39 -0400 Does this machine have any collectors value? Article: 332465 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Webster-Chicago Wire Recorder References: Message-ID: <%9YZf.83$543.81@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:02:03 GMT ExtraClass wrote: > Does this machine have any collectors value? To those of us facinated by the technology, yes. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 332466 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Let's be careful out there... References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:07:51 GMT Bob in Phx wrote: > One summer I was working roof construction. I was drilling with a Hole Hog , > 3 stories up, through a joist hanger, with a 1 inch bit. Ah, the Milwaukee Hole Hawg. A fine bit of geared down pure death. As a tool repair guy I got fix them regularly. Typically, after a guy gets, or almost gets, a broken ankle, they leave it in the high speed/low torque range. And as a result, I got to change out a lot of gear sets. They really don't like hitting a nail at high RPM when you have a 3" wood bore in them. The other repairs were replacing the handle because the owner didn't want to look like a sissy by putting the 18" x 3/4" extension handle on it. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 332467 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Let's be careful out there... References: <9%PZf.47745$OC6.805418@weber.videotron.net> <7sag32t8tir5ifmit69vgppuo0h9e7advi@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:11:25 GMT Beerbarrel wrote: > On Sat, 8 Apr 2006 10:44:33 -0400, "Syl" wrote: >> >>Idiot ! >> >>Syl >> > > Pot, Kettle, Black... No, actually, Syl was right. I was tired, working alone and thought I was being clever by standing on some that unstable. About the only thing worse I could have picked to stand on would have been swivel desk chair. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 332468 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Barry" References: <9%PZf.47745$OC6.805418@weber.videotron.net> <7sag32t8tir5ifmit69vgppuo0h9e7advi@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Let's be careful out there... Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 19:33:12 -0500 Message-ID: <930fd$443855ec$18d649b3$26171@KNOLOGY.NET> > No, actually, Syl was right. I was tired, working alone and thought > I was being clever by standing on some that unstable. About the only > thing worse I could have picked to stand on would have been swivel > desk chair. > > Jeff Ah, the poor-man's roller-coaster. Hope you mend quickly. Barry - N4BUQ Article: 332469 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" Subject: Zenith-made Silvertone? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:39:21 GMT Huh? First time I heard of this one. I thought Arvin made most of the stuff of this vintage. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9709320609 Doesn't seem to have anything in common with TOs. Anyone ever seen one of these? Ray Article: 332470 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Can someone please help me identify this Brunswick? Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 09:49:14 +0900 Message-ID: I have had this chassis here for service for some time, but it's pretty hacked up underneath and need a schematic to save it. http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/DSC00795s.jpg Cabinet http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/DSC00805s.jpg Chassis Article: 332471 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Phipps" Subject: Re: Webster-Chicago Wire Recorder Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 19:57:02 -0500 Message-ID: <123gn00hq8mnk56@corp.supernews.com> References: If it's the very common 80-1 model in the maroon colored leatherette case, they seem to sell around here at flea markets and swap meets for $25-$50 in well used shape to $100-$125 for like new. They're in demand at those prices and don't stay around long. Steve P. "ExtraClass" wrote in message news:P_XZf.2776$Xe.2085@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > Does this machine have any collectors value? > From jsmcauley'at'earthlink.net Tue Apr 11 10:43:35 EDT 2006 Article: 332472 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: js mcauley Reply-To: jsmcauley'at'earthlink.net User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Earthstink References: <1144290399.843613.296120@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1144372892.197874.200180@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1144372892.197874.200180@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0615-0, 04/08/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Lines: 38 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 01:21:34 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.87.139.208 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net 1144545694 65.87.139.208 (Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:21:34 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:21:34 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!oshean-news.uri.edu!128.230.129.112.MISMATCH!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!1800c27c!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:332472 Gary Tayman wrote: > Well, I've got an update: I called the Earthlink "dispute and > resolution center" and it put me in the same loop as the regular > number, which I suppose would ultimately take me back to India. > LOVIT!!! > > So I called their escalation number once again, this time getting > somebody who seems to care. For the very first time since March 16, > which was 22 calls ago, we've actually made some progress. Now I'm > finally online with my new modem, minus a router, so my wife will be > mad when she gets home. I've also finally got the phone modem to work, > but all the settings in the book that I'm supposed to make -- don't > work. I set it back to default and it works. Don't mess with success. > > So now I'm back online, minus a router and still minus any newsgroups, > but I've gained another phone! Lose a computer, get a phone. > > Oh, and some sweet revenge. Just as this "master technician" was at > the height of frustration trying to get these things to work, she asked > me to try my e-mail. I tried -- and received an e-mail from Earthlink; > a bill showing an overcharge of $150.00! Needless to say this got some > attention, and some credits! > > What a system! Supposedly some sort of "individual trouble ticket" has > been written up, and a technician should be "fixing" the news problem > within 48 hours. I've heard that before; we'll see. > > Gary Tayman > 78's & 45's > I had to create a 2nd email account to get newsgroup access after getting the VOIP phone service. Took about 4 days to get someone at earthlink that knew anything about newsgroups. The so called Tech Support in India is useless. They can only tell you how to set up IE and LooKout Er Outlook and how to empty your cache. If you even mention a third party browser, linux or mac they totally freak out. I finally got hold of someone knowledgable in Texas after threatening legal action. Scott. Article: 332473 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1144544160.623347.172450@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1144545097.929218.276620@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith-made Silvertone? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 01:55:19 GMT I asked too. Didn't mention doubts. Ray "Steven" wrote in message news:1144545097.929218.276620@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Point has been asked of him, nicely. > Article: 332474 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" References: Subject: Re: Teletalk Intercoms Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 22:00:13 -0400 Message-ID: <44386a86$0$3701$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "DeserTBoB" wrote in message news:c1jg32lq7j00vsmc7fdbh8s2l4oppvneoa@4ax.com... > On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 14:56:35 -0400, Ken wrote: > >>Anyone here restore old intercoms? I have a set, in great shape, but no >>documentation. Total weight is 36 pounds from zip 24018. Asking $25 for >>all plus shipping. Pics on binaries. Ken > > Ah yes...the old Webster Electric Teletalks. Been years since I > worked on one of those! Have a ton of "old" intercom info here - maybe that model! clfe Article: 332475 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1144544160.623347.172450@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith-made Silvertone? Message-ID: <%ZZZf.20116$cY3.4803@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 02:05:47 GMT He doesn't say "like TO" he says "made by Zenith" twice. Yeah, it could be that a tube or two are Zenith and he jumped to a conclusion. I have had to explain to people a few times that RCA, Philco, or GE tubes don't mean they made it. Heck, one time I had to tell some guy his radio wasn't made by Tung-Sol. It must be really confusing for poor newbies who don't know about groups like this who cruise eBay. More misguided jargon and misinformation than you can shake a stick at on there. "Eames", "Deco", every plastic radio called Bakelite and/or Catalin, "RCA's" that aren't. Etc. Ray "Steven" wrote in message news:1144544160.623347.172450@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >A little mixed up and not close to wishful thinking, Ray. He's crossing > things to grab more searches. > > Has he shown any tags or paperwork on it? Sears doesn't reference the > builder in the literature period, even if it's obvious. > > Maybe there are Zenith tubes in there. People mix the tubes up with the > manufacturer sometimes and Silvertone sets had Silvertone tubes. Looks > like late fifties-early 60s stuff to me though. > Article: 332476 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Teletalk Intercoms References: <44386a86$0$3701$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 03:38:25 GMT clfe wrote: > > Have a ton of "old" intercom info here - maybe that model! > clfe I was the one that bought them, send me some email and I'll let you know the specifics when they arrive. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 332477 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W, Harvey" Subject: Re: Adios Earthstink Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 21:02:56 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1144456769.919256.35330@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <123e3gsqjdsgpe8@corp.supernews.com> <443749D9.1673C6F0@earthlink.net> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > My cable service was back up before the landline after the hurricanes > two years ago. Brighthouse sent trucks around with generators to charge > the batteries in their UPSs before power was restored to my > neighborhood. My dad lives next door, and was able to watch TV while his > generator was running their well pump and refrigerator. The phones were > out about a week longer than the cable, and cell phone service was very > spotty, till after the landlines were all restored. > Well, when you're talking about a natural disaster, all bets are off as to what utilities will exist when it's all over with.... I am talking about outages that occur as a result of ordinary seasonal, predictable weather patterns. The power delivery network here is very twitchy; it does not take much to cause an interruption that can last hours. When that happens, the cable TV will go down with it 99 times out of a hundred. When power is restored, I have seen it take as long as 12 additional hours for the cable system to come back on line. Compare that situation with the phones....I have only seen the phones go out once here, and that was because water somehow got into a sealed pole transformer outside of our house, which rendered telephone service kaput. Curiously enough, the DSL service tied to the same line continued to work perfectly....In fact, I used it to e-mail everyone to tell them not to try to call me because my phones weren't working! I will give props to one thing about cable....Its internet service is about 5 times faster than DSL, and it's excellent under normal conditions. -Scott -- NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Tue Apr 11 10:43:36 EDT 2006 Article: 332478 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: can an eBayer do this? References: Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 12 Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 05:15:52 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com 1144559752 66.65.49.10 (Sun, 09 Apr 2006 01:15:52 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 01:15:52 EDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wns14feed!worldnet.att.net!24.30.200.11!news-east.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:332478 In article , Brenda Ann wrote: > Which greedy cell phone company copyrighted the phrase "Push to Talk", which NEXTEL! And it's only copyrighted so you can't use it as a sales tactic. But the buttons can still be labelled "Push to Talk". -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Tue Apr 11 10:43:36 EDT 2006 Article: 332479 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Can someone please help me identify this Brunswick? References: Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 17 Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 05:20:01 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com 1144560001 66.65.49.10 (Sun, 09 Apr 2006 01:20:01 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 01:20:01 EDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!news-feed-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:332479 In article , Brenda Ann wrote: > http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/DSC00795s.jpg Cabinet You know what's weird? You never told me the brand of that radio but you did show me that cadaver chassis when I was in your basement. It sure looks cleaner than I remember it - probably because it was dark down there. THen when you emailed me those pictures and I saw the empty cabinet, I said to myself, "betcha that chassis that Brenda has in her basement belongs to that box." Talk about weird. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Tue Apr 11 10:43:36 EDT 2006 Article: 332480 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Kutztown References: Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 9 Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 05:24:22 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com 1144560262 66.65.49.10 (Sun, 09 Apr 2006 01:24:22 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 01:24:22 EDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn12feed!worldnet.att.net!24.30.200.11!news-east.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:332480 In article , Marty Friedman wrote: > Kutztown is a small town to start with. Rennengers market is about a mile Drat. I'm helping a friend move on Kutztown day. Well, I hope I can make it to the next NJARC meet! :) -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Tue Apr 11 10:43:36 EDT 2006 Article: 332481 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: can an eBayer do this? References: <1144560214.089193.280920@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 10 Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 05:27:36 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com 1144560456 66.65.49.10 (Sun, 09 Apr 2006 01:27:36 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 01:27:36 EDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wns14feed!worldnet.att.net!24.30.200.11!news-east.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:332481 In article <1144560214.089193.280920@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Steven wrote: > They were still MOTOROLA phones, correct, and didn't they help develop > walkie-talkies? Didn't SPRINT use MOTO also? I don't know. Not into cellphones. But I do remember Nextel being the service who made it big on the walkietalkie thing. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Tue Apr 11 10:43:36 EDT 2006 Article: 332482 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Rescue Scott 800B in New York References: Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 10 Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 05:31:51 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com 1144560711 66.65.49.10 (Sun, 09 Apr 2006 01:31:51 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 01:31:51 EDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!wns14feed!worldnet.att.net!24.30.200.11!news-east.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:332482 In article , Brenda Ann wrote: > Too bad Stephanie doesn't have room for something like this... I'm thinking, if Sal Brisindi and others in the NJARC club could help me pick it up....they could raffle this bugger off at the next swap meet! Be good for the club. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 332483 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W, Harvey" Subject: Re: I found a Zenith 12-S-471 Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:12:51 -0400 Message-ID: References: Tom Adkins wrote: > I recently got in contact with an old friend that I haven't seen since > grade school. On a recent visit he mentioned having an "old radio" that > he wasn't much interested in that would like to sell. We walked to his > basement and the first thing I noticed was the shutter dial. Upon > looking, it was a 12 tube set with a tuning eye, a 12-S-471. The set is > complete and the cabinet is tight with no veneer damage. It will need > refinished and new grille cloth. The finish is flaked all over and > probably can't be saved. A couple of the push buttons are chipped but > not badly, and the gold disk on the dial has fallen off. I'm sure it > will need a dial belt along with the usual recapping and such. He said > he has had it for about 25 years and never plugged it in (good thing > with the 2 6X5s). He said the 4 words that I hate, "Make me an offer". > Now, I know this isn't a cheap radio, even needing work. I could > probably offer him $30-50 and he'd take it. My conscience says to offer > him more. Any thoughts? I, too, hate the "make me an offer" game, because it is often hard to determine what game the seller is playing. Usually when I am confronted with this situation I will try to get the seller to flesh out his expectations or give a ballpark figure, or simply ask "what'll you take for it?". From there, let your conscience and your level of desire for the item be your guide. I used that latter option a month ago when I acquired an R390A at a swap meet that was sparsely attended due to rain. The set was almost complete but showed some signs of hasty re-assembly, with the power cord intact but disconnected. The seller had no clue what the radio was or its operational status because he found it in his late father's attic and was not a radio guy. He told me he would take $50.00 for it; I gave him a hundred because $50 was too cheap for an R390A even in unknown condition. As it turns out the radio has problems but is restorable nonetheless, so the $100.00 was just about right. I also bought the Lucian Levy set that I posted pictures of recently >from the same guy for another $100.00. In that case, neither of us had any idea what the radio was worth, and I just bought it because I thought it looked cool. It turns out that that was quite a good deal. For all I knew at the time, though, it could have been worth less than what I paid. Sometimes you just gotta go with what you know, and muddle through the rest. -Scott -- NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Article: 332484 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: please help with this crosley 655 power supply References: <1144511260.133391.250680@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1144542856.418897.106660@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> From: "craig yuen" Message-ID: <1w4_f.480$K43.116@fe10.lga> Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 05:31:41 EDT you are right neil, the metal case was connected to ground. that's why i thought it was one of those filters where all of the caps had a common connection. once i re-wired the caps according to the schematic, it's been playing loud and clear without a trace of hum. thanks again to the group for your help. craig "nesesu" writes: >Mark, what you say is often true, but not in the case of this Crosley >655. If you look closely at this schematic for this set, you will see >that the two caps, part id 10X and 10V, have a common negative to >chassis, while part id 10Z has a common positive with 10V and a >separated negative to the B+ winding CT. I cannot recall having seen a >metal can electrolytic with capacitor negatives separated from each >other since the electrolyte is common to negative and is difficuit to >isolate in a can. If you look closely, all three caps are across the >full B+ and are 450V rated. In the drawings of the bottom and top of >the chassis it is not clear if the cap is metal or composition board >and if the base is insulated from the chassis, but I rather think it is >showing washers top and bottom and it only shows three terminals, so I >suspect the threaded stud must be the 4th connection. All in all very >confusing to the neophite [or anyone without the schematic!!] since one >would wrongly assume that all three terminals were positive and the >stud negative. >So, Craig, 10X and 10V have their negatives to chassis while 10Z has >it's negative to transformer B+ winding centre tap and all are 8-10uF >450V. > >Neil S. > -- ------------------------------------------------------- craig yuen -- cyuen@optonline.net craigyuen@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------- Article: 332485 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "G. Wilson" Subject: "Matching" tubes Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 05:30:08 -0600 Message-ID: An item for sale on ebay uses the word matching all over the place for tubes that he is selling , because the tubes have the same lot number , date of manufacture , etc. I thought the idea of " matching" tubes was performance based where you had equal plate currents for the same the test same conditions . Does coming from the same LOT , and date , guarantee identical performance ?? Gordon Article: 332486 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Unanticipated Loop Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:44:58 -0400 Message-ID: <123i7fepmpjnra0@corp.supernews.com> References: <1144256080.352812.116850@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1144351747.234710.140290@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <6doZf.880586$x96.322208@attbi_s72> <123ee6kj928bfe4@corp.supernews.com> <5YCdnav0_tFPkaTZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com> TerryJ wrote: > Philco from 1941-50 had low impedance loop antennas mounted inside the > case. They work very well. Oh, ok. I know which ones you are referring to. That scheme has an impedance in the 'few hundred' ohms range so you could match to it fairly easily. Not all that different than most other sets of the era. When I hear low impedance I think 50 ohms. -Bill Article: 332487 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT but a favorite subject here: HOW accurate are Google Maps in Google Local? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1144562976.198608.40520@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1144565271.342339.278450@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 14:53:06 GMT In article <1144565271.342339.278450@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>, ManyRumours@lycos.com says... > > >and the data is a year old? > > pay them $200 a year and you get to use the current scans. Addresses may still be off. But at least the cars will be in the right spot. Article: 332488 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Sarasota Antique Radio Club swap meet From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1144589325.627719.311550@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 14:55:06 GMT In article <1144589325.627719.311550@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, gtayman@gate.net says... > > >Sarasota swap meet will be on Saturday, >Gary Tayman Gary you guys need to get this meet back into the end of March so more of us Snowbirds can attend. John k9uwa Article: 332489 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Joe Farkas Subject: Re: Zenith-made Silvertone? Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:55:47 -0400 Message-ID: <5v7i32hf334a6aqgegq6a5ifnd3r2dmc2f@4ax.com> References: On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:39:21 GMT, "Rune" wrote: >Huh? First time I heard of this one. I thought Arvin made most of the stuff >of this vintage. > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9709320609 > >Doesn't seem to have anything in common with TOs. > >Anyone ever seen one of these? > >Ray > Actually this is probably contracted by Hallicrafters, same turret-type tuner. Maybe all were made by Zenith since all were in the Chicago area. But a lot of components are different (I have examples of Zenith T-Os and this 'Sears' as well as Hallicrafters 2000) Article: 332490 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Zenith 6D539, what's the 3rd wire on the line cord for? Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 08:30:49 -0700 Message-ID: <6080-443928A9-29@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> References: <1144594424.853100.183260@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> >From Peter W.: >Possibly this was a curtain-burner radio >(resistance line cord)? Just wunnerin' (please pardon the thread drift), is there any recorded instance of a house fire being traced to a resistance cord? I've never heard of one. Bill(oc) Article: 332491 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Sarasota Antique Radio Club swap meet References: <1144589325.627719.311550@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <9_9_f.571$fG3.415@dukeread09> Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 11:45:04 -0400 Gary, when people here in roanoke, Va have trouble like you're having, they report it to a local TV station that helps in these cases. TV reporters contact the faulty party, and things get fixed, pronto. No one wants bad press. Ken Gary Tayman wrote: > While I have a minute, and while I can still access this newsgroup via > Google (never know when Earthstink will screw that up too), I want to > inform/remind everyone that the Sarasota swap meet will be on Saturday, > April 22, from 8 to 11:00 am. It will be at the Knights of Columbus > hall on Fruitville Road. Take I-75 to (Florida) Exit 210, Fruitville > Road, and head west. Go about 1.5 miles, just past the big shopping > centers. Get in the left lane, and when you see the KFC sign, put on > your blinker -- it's just past it. > > Remember that truckload of stuff I talked about in February? It will > be at the meet; at least as much of it as we can fill our vehicles > with. > > Gary Tayman > 78's & 45's > Article: 332492 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Zenith 6D539, what's the 3rd wire on the line cord for? References: <1144594106.090703.139860@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 11:46:36 -0400 Could have been antenna. Ken AuroraOldRadios wrote: > And how was it connected, or was it connected at all? Maybe a ground > wire? I saw someone's restoration project that used a 3 prong cord and > connected this lead to ground. Suely the original cord didn't have 3 > prongs. > Interesting note: my radio came with all original Zenith tubes > including 12SA7G and 35Z5G. 35L6GT is Zenith branded, dated 1-30 (30th > week of 1941?) and was made by GE in plant 188-5. Under chassis is mint > and all original. Cord was spliced outside the cabinet. By the way, the > tube shield was loose. What tube should it be used on, 12SQ7 or 14H7? > Zenith service notes don't say. > Article: 332493 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: OT but a favorite subject here: HOW accurate are Google Maps in Google Local? Message-ID: <8abi32hdlghgqibbsqlde3cbql94khpmm7@4ax.com> References: <1144562976.198608.40520@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1144565271.342339.278450@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 11:51:06 -0400 On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 14:53:06 GMT, k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) wrote: >In article <1144565271.342339.278450@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>, >ManyRumours@lycos.com says... >> >> >>and the data is a year old? >> >> > >pay them $200 a year and you get to use the current scans. Addresses >may still be off. But at least the cars will be in the right spot. > Or in Steven's case...the tricycle and wagon! Article: 332494 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1144072687.197582.119080@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1144281380.742958.294030@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Annual Spring Post - Unwanted Radio Inhabitants Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 12:18:20 -0400 "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1144281380.742958.294030@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Very peculiar. Carpenter ants don't actually eat wood... they eat plant > sap and aphid honey. It is quite odd that they would have a colony on > something so small as a Victrola. > > I have seen stranger things in my time, though. > > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Wow. Peter, I just replaced the columns and part of the frame wood on the front door canopy of my ranch house. The guy who did the siding didn't do it quite right, and moisture was getting into the two wood pillars that supported the front of the roof canopy overhang. I leaned against one, and ended up in the bushes. Long story short, carpenter ants followed the damp wood all way up to the 2X4s and 2X6s (that weren't exposed to water) and by the time I discovered the damage there were only paper thin remants remaining! They ate everything! I spent a few days poking around to make sure all of the damaged areas were removed and all of the eggs destroyed! These were BIG black ants (not termites!) and they did a lot of damage. I always called them carpenter ants, maybe they're not the same species? Pete p.s. I got a new 10" Mikita compound miter saw and the fancy foldup stand as part of the deal when I told the wife I could do the repairs myself. So, it worked good for me :) Article: 332495 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: ELGIN Radio ID? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 12:33:16 -0400 This set has no other ID except a small brass plate with ELGIN stamped into it. Pic on binaries, ever see one? Ken Article: 332496 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1144562976.198608.40520@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT but a favorite subject here: HOW accurate are Google Maps in Google Local? Message-ID: <87c_f.20168$cY3.18534@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 18:11:16 GMT Mine is older than that. I moved to my location in the summer of 2004. A set of expensive new homes were built on the hill down the road a few months before. Google Earth shows the land just being cleared (an historical mansion was there before) so the Google picture has to be late 2003 or very early 2004. Plugging in some friends addresses proved interesting. Google Earth could not find some at all and others were just gross blobs looking like crude oil paintings even at maximum zoom out. I don't know if you get better blobs if you pay but it's not encouraging anyone to pay to see. It's an interesting toy but not very useful to most. Ray "Steven" wrote in message news:1144562976.198608.40520@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Final answer---BUZZZZZ > > My house is two away from the corner they have is at, and... > > Since I moved in September 23, 2005, there has NEVER been a tree next > to my house! The swimming pool is filled in the apartments behind us > when we haven't have a week of over 60 degree days and lots of wind and > rain! > > My suggestion is that they get a newer shot than June 2005. > Article: 332497 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1144594106.090703.139860@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith 6D539, what's the 3rd wire on the line cord for? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 18:20:08 GMT Some Zeniths had a third wire in the cord for an antenna for the shortwave band. That's what you have found. See the schematic: http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/2468/zen6D539S1.gif Note the antenna notation "3rd wire on A.C. cord". Ray "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1144594106.090703.139860@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > And how was it connected, or was it connected at all? Maybe a ground > wire? I saw someone's restoration project that used a 3 prong cord and > connected this lead to ground. Suely the original cord didn't have 3 > prongs. > Interesting note: my radio came with all original Zenith tubes > including 12SA7G and 35Z5G. 35L6GT is Zenith branded, dated 1-30 (30th > week of 1941?) and was made by GE in plant 188-5. Under chassis is mint > and all original. Cord was spliced outside the cabinet. By the way, the > tube shield was loose. What tube should it be used on, 12SQ7 or 14H7? > Zenith service notes don't say. > Article: 332498 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1144562976.198608.40520@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <87c_f.20168$cY3.18534@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <1144607185.466051.200570@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT but a favorite subject here: HOW accurate are Google Maps in Google Local? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 18:36:02 GMT Google search is very useful if you know how to phrase your wants. I use it constantly for various research. It's limited to what's available online and what languages you can read or translate but generally useful. It's not like having a commercial search or news archive but damn good for a freebie. And for a lot of what I do the FTP files and directories are a goldmine! Ray "Steven" wrote in message news:1144607185.466051.200570@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > Yaah 10-4 on that. Just like Google search, a toy unless you wanna go > through people's FTP folders : P > Article: 332499 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" Subject: Need some balls Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 14:50:25 -0400 I'm looking for an aluminum corona ball that'll fit on a stainless steel 72" whip. I've been told they are available. Lordy knows where. Pete Article: 332500 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) Subject: Re: FS: RCA NOS Military/Industrial 6005/6AQ5W Black Plate Tubes Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 19:09:14 -0000 Message-ID: <123imuqfthj687f@corp.supernews.com> References: <1144561824.694224.261180@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> In article <1144561824.694224.261180@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>, Steven wrote: >More crossposting. > >Tubes can be fickle things. How do you guarantee 50 yo stuff like that >in lots or 20? You know, I almost never see any mention of a guarantee for tubes, except occasionally on HF transmitter 'final' tubes. That aside, it is _quite_ possible he has a tube tester. Maybe even a working 50-year old one. Article: 332501 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: I WAS JUST MAKING UP NEW BATCHES OF MY ASSORTED - Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 14:06:19 -0500 Message-ID: <6793-44395B2B-423@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> CHEMICALS, NAMELY CONTACT CLEANER AND DIAL CORD TIGHTENER. I GOT TO WONDERING WHAT COMMENTS THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE TRIED EITHER ONE OR BOTH MIGHT HAVE. NORMALLY I WOULD WAIT AND SEE HOW MANY REORDERS CAME IN BUT IN THE CASE OF THE DIAL COVER TIGHTENER AND CONTACT CLEANER (GOOD GOD ITS A QUART) I WOULD HAVE TO WAIT FOREVER TO GET THE WORD. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 332502 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Need some balls References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 19:21:14 GMT I got a set but they are brass! Sorry I couldn't help myself. Uncle Peter wrote: > I'm looking for an aluminum corona ball that'll fit on > a stainless steel 72" whip. > > I've been told they are available. Lordy knows where. > > > Pete > > > Article: 332503 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Need some balls Message-ID: <6Be_f.7327$IZ2.2444@dukeread07> Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 16:59:42 -0400 "Lou deGonzague" wrote in message news:K8d_f.20925$Mj.20613@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > I got a set but they are brass! Sorry I couldn't help myself. Big deal. I have a stainless steel rod. Article: 332504 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Stone" References: <44374C39.16CD8273@earthlink.net> <1144559710.841180.165270@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT: Tornados and damage around Nashville Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 21:00:11 GMT If anyone has a need for it my ARES/RACES/Skywarn group offers free e-mail tornado warnings sent to cell phones or other e-mail id's. We tap the NOAA EMWIN datastream with an inexpensive program called Weather Message. Sometimes the EMWIN data is quicker than the NOAA SAME radios. Steve N2UBP From adouglasatgis.net Tue Apr 11 10:43:40 EDT 2006 Article: 332505 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Sound woes on RCA 630TS TV Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 16:52:47 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Lines: 9 Message-ID: <1jsi32d6uhu12fq1hiplo4jttsg9hdf3ca@4ax.com> References: <5E8Zf.1$fW6.0@fe07.lga> <1llb32dr9s4otl2l9crqhrnrlo5q9dbnmv@4ax.com> <6u-dnV6nZfgPRKvZRVn-qw@giganews.com> <1144450369.892756.291140@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-948.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!pln-e!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news3 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:332505 Hi, It's been too long since I tried this, but I see there's no baseline for the swept display. Perhaps that's normal for the Eico. The marker does look broad, and it doesn't look quite right either. Does it move along the swept trace as you vary its frequency? I believe the marker is actually a zero-beat, and its waveform should be spaced wider at its center. Alan -- NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Article: 332506 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" Subject: Free Sunday Message-ID: <2nf_f.3202$XI6.246@trnddc05> Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 21:53:02 GMT All free for the price of shipping from 18505, which in a few cases, might cost more than it's worth. All items, might work, might be complete. On the other hand, might not work, will describe best as i remember, need some room back in the garage. Pictures are about 300k each for those on dialup. Any questions or details needed, send email, will get back to you during the week. H-P 7633 mainframe, think this works if you jumper a negative supply cap in the power supply, but a pain to get at, should be gone over with new electrolytics. http://www.poconoelectronics.com/free/1.jpg Panasonic AG-500R, commercial,color tv with built in vcr, actually vtp(player, not recorder) plays in loop mode if wanted, (12" screen?). http://www.poconoelectronics.com/free/2.jpg Panasonic AG-1000B video tape player,commercial, once again, player not a recorder, plays in loop mode if wanted. May work good for vcr-dvd transfers, may remove macro.,although mono not stereo. Have 2 of these. http://www.poconoelectronics.com/free/3.jpg H-P 182T Display mainframe, with 8755C swept amplitude analyzer. No probes, sorry, might be hard to get. H-P, so weight could be an issue. http://www.poconoelectronics.com/free/4.jpg Nicolet 4094A Digital Oscilloscope, complete with 5 1/4" floppy drive for saving waveforms! No software. Does power up, has trace, may be useful as just a scope, heavy. http://www.poconoelectronics.com/free/5.jpg Boonton 82AD Modulation meter, seems to work fine, have 3 of these, one has bent handle. http://www.poconoelectronics.com/free/6.jpg Sencore PS43 porta-pak power supply, many output voltages, full of ni-cads (how good?i don't know) http://www.poconoelectronics.com/free/7.jpg Article: 332507 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Sound woes on RCA 630TS TV Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 14:53:56 -0700 Message-ID: <2216-44398274-309@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> References: >From Phil: >I connected the sweep generator to the >antenna terminals,.. Uh, is this what the book says to do, inject the IF signal at the antenna?? The way i always did it was =96 put an *ungrounded* shield over the converter (mixer) tube, and clip the sweeper's IF signal to that. It capacitively couples directly to the mixer plate with minimal detuning effect, so you've got an unmolested IF signal going into the IF strip. Turn down the attenuation as needed till you can see the top of the response curve as well as the baseline (the top should show a double hump or "camelback", indicating the IF stages are stagger-tuned as they should be). Turn up the sweep width as needed till you can see both ends of the response curve. >I set the signal generator to 25.75 mhz >and connected it to the external marker >input of the sweeper, and connected the >oscilloscope to the output of the video >detector. So you're using an external genny for the marker. It `should` show up as a sharp, distinct pip on the response curve. >..the marker shows a blob (I wouldn't call >it a "pip"). The sig gen output is set quite >low. > If we turn up the sig gen output, >the blob gets bigger: http://antiqueradio.org/art/temp/RCA630TS27.jp It looks like the marker is smeared out in the frequency domain, i.e., it's 'FM-ing', as if something's wonky with the sig genny. Electrolyrics maybe? I'd try the direct-injection method mentioned earlier, and look at the marker again. As an alternative to an ungrounded shield, you can just use a piece of hookup wire wrapped around the tube and taped in place, and clip to that. oc Article: 332508 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: <1144562976.198608.40520@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1144565271.342339.278450@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT but a favorite subject here: HOW accurate are Google Maps in Google Local? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 22:48:40 GMT John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > In article <1144565271.342339.278450@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>, > ManyRumours@lycos.com says... >> >> >> and the data is a year old? >> >> > > pay them $200 a year and you get to use the current scans. Addresses > may still be off. But at least the cars will be in the right spot. Anyone had way to try NASA WORLD WIND? Just wondering how good it works... -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 332509 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" Subject: Schematic ID needed Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 23:11:33 GMT Just came from eBay. Some wires unsoldered, some may be missing.. has anyone idea of what should be the schematic? I guess something like those often published in the past for homebrew projcets but i'm unable to find one with 4 variable caps.. and 4 tubes. First looking pointed me to the receiver published at page 15 in the 1934 Short wave radio manual reprinted by Lindsay, 'A 3 tube band spread loud speaker set' but mine has the following tube line: 6L7 6J7 6F6 6C5 (from left to right in a1.jpg and guessing that those are the correct ones) http://www.junkradios.com/public/a1.jpg http://www.junkradios.com/public/a2.jpg -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 332510 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <_YCZf.34272$OC6.561167@weber.videotron.net> <1144455125.567786.10740@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: The original "Close 'n Play" phonograph? (not mine) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 23:32:29 GMT "Steven" wrote in message news:1144455125.567786.10740@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... > The better version of that Sony midget thing some hairball was posting > here earlier. The one that changes eBay addresses like a crackhouse or > appears in many auctions at once. Heavy, but a masterpiece. > > I'm starting to believe Philce was almost better at phonos than radios, > and TVs killed them : ( > This set has caught my interest. What model is this set in the auction? Are there things to watch out for when working on one? -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery2/v/Antique_radios/ and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 332511 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Schematic ID needed Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 19:51:16 -0400 Message-ID: <123j7fpafq750da@corp.supernews.com> References: Dan, I think you may have something close to a set I recently built. Start here... http://www.io.com/~nielw/wa5vlz.htm See the 3-tube Superhet and the improved version. In mine I used 6K8 converter/mixer, 6J7 regen detector, 6SN7 BFO and AF Preamp and 6K6 audio out. Many people would not use the BFO and a single triode (6C5) could be used...or they would skip the AF preamp... The other option might be one of the Jones receivers. See here, pages ~104-118. http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/%7Eglowbugs/books/jones37/ -Bill Article: 332512 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Patterson tombstone sold on eBay Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 19:56:33 -0400 "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:PJadncypEY2zAKTZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com... > here's a rare bird! Patterson made communications equipment in LA, CA I > think. But, they also sold a few of their chassis in consumer type > cabinets such as this: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6618973140&rd=1&sspagenam e=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 > > you just never see them. They also had a 12 tube version! > > Mark Oppat > > > I count 8 tubes. Dave is off by one. Pete Article: 332513 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: ELGIN Radio ID? Message-ID: <%Ih_f.79776$Eg2.2939@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 00:32:59 GMT "Ken" wrote in message news:lHa_f.575$fG3.145@dukeread09... > > This set has no other ID except a small brass plate with ELGIN stamped into it. Pic > on binaries, ever see one? Ken > I've had several transistor sets with the "Elgin" brand on them. Now I'm looking for the rarer "Bolingbrook" ones. jim menning From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Tue Apr 11 10:43:40 EDT 2006 Article: 332514 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Kutztown References: <1144587471.675276.294710@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 11 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 00:39:18 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com 1144629558 66.65.49.10 (Sun, 09 Apr 2006 20:39:18 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 20:39:18 EDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!wns14feed!worldnet.att.net!24.30.200.11!news-east.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:332514 In article <1144587471.675276.294710@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>, Peter Wieck wrote: > Kutztown is two (2) days. I'm working on Friday and Saturday I'm going to Trenton to help my friend move. Sunday is Mother's Day. You'll know where I'll be THEN. :) -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Tue Apr 11 10:43:41 EDT 2006 Article: 332515 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Need some balls References: <6Be_f.7327$IZ2.2444@dukeread07> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 9 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 00:39:43 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com 1144629583 66.65.49.10 (Sun, 09 Apr 2006 20:39:43 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 20:39:43 EDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!wns14feed!worldnet.att.net!24.30.200.11!news-east.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:332515 In article <6Be_f.7327$IZ2.2444@dukeread07>, Uncle Peter wrote: > Big deal. I have a stainless steel rod. Never needs polishing, eh? -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Tue Apr 11 10:43:41 EDT 2006 Article: 332516 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Zenith 6D539, what's the 3rd wire on the line cord for? References: <1144594106.090703.139860@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 11 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 00:41:39 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com 1144629699 66.65.49.10 (Sun, 09 Apr 2006 20:41:39 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 20:41:39 EDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!wns13feed!worldnet.att.net!24.30.200.11!news-east.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:332516 In article , Rune wrote: > Some Zeniths had a third wire in the cord for an antenna for the shortwave > band. That's what you have found. Similar to those GE radios with the huge spedometer-like dial. I have one of those. Recently I replaced the crumbling three-wire power cord with a standard one and the antenna is now on a separate wire. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 332517 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Sound woes on RCA 630TS TV Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:05:26 +0900 Message-ID: References: <5E8Zf.1$fW6.0@fe07.lga> <1llb32dr9s4otl2l9crqhrnrlo5q9dbnmv@4ax.com> <6u-dnV6nZfgPRKvZRVn-qw@giganews.com> <1144450369.892756.291140@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:Q8GdnUfmXZ5I_KTZRVn-vg@giganews.com... > Here's yet another idea: try walking through the video IF alignment > procedure (without changing anything) to see whether the sweep generator > seems to work at all. > > Reading the "retouching picture IF" procedure in the manual, I connected > the sweep generator to the antenna terminals, set the signal generator to > 25.75 mhz and connected it to the external marker input of the sweeper, > and connected the oscilloscope to the output of the video detector. > > I'm not sure how to interpret the results. I took some photos along the > way. > > Here is the scope display with the sweep generator sweep width set to 0 > and the signal generator not connected. > > http://antiqueradio.org/art/temp/RCA630TS24.jpg > > Turning the sweep width way up (to 24) creates a shouldery sort of > waveform. > > http://antiqueradio.org/art/temp/RCA630TS25.jpg > > Connecting the signal generator as external marker adds a blob (I wouldn't > call it a "pip"). The sig gen output is set quite low. > > http://antiqueradio.org/art/temp/RCA630TS26.jpg > > If we turn up the sig gen output, the blob gets bigger. > > http://antiqueradio.org/art/temp/RCA630TS27.jpg > > So . . . what to make of all this? It doesn't look like the drawings in > the books and manuals, showing a bright little marker pip somewhere along > a nice clean waveform. > > On the other hand, at least I've reached a stage where the sweep generator > and marker are visible in some fashion. > > Phil Nelson > > Offhand that trace looks very good for video bandpass.. should be a notch on the righthand side for the sound carrier frequency, otherwise it is nice and flat, very desirable for video IF's. Looks like your genny has some AC hum problems, you're definately getting a modulated signal there (the 'blob' rather than a pip). I still suggest using an AM modulated signal at the sound IF frequency for alignment. Try feeding it in through the antenna while tuned to Ch. 2 first, then if that doesn't work, loose couple it to the input of the first sound IF stage.. Article: 332518 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Can someone please help me identify this Brunswick? Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:08:34 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:e19lm4$ku1$1@news2.kornet.net... >I have had this chassis here for service for some time, but it's pretty >hacked up underneath and need a schematic to save it. > > http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/DSC00795s.jpg Cabinet > > http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/DSC00805s.jpg Chassis > Possible model or chassis number 1050.... anyone?? Article: 332519 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Smokey" Subject: Dial stringing Grundig Ocean Boy needed Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 20:37:32 -0500 Message-ID: <123jdocefb5s210@corp.supernews.com> Does anyone have the stringing diagram for a Grundig Ocean Boy transistorized AM FM SW portable? I'll gladly pay shipping/copy costs. Thanks Smokey telegrapher@hotmail.com -- Important note: When replying to my e-mail please delete the words, "nospam" >from my e-mail address. Article: 332520 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" Subject: MARC website updated for EXTRAVAGANZA '06 Message-ID: <4%i_f.45924$_S7.13600@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 02:00:32 GMT Hopefully the teething problems with our new server is over. The web site has been updated with information for EXTRAVAGANZA '06. www.michiganantiqueradio.org From jsmcauley'at'earthlink.net Tue Apr 11 10:43:41 EDT 2006 Article: 332521 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: js mcauley Reply-To: jsmcauley'at'earthlink.net User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Earthstink References: <1144290399.843613.296120@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1144372892.197874.200180@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1144553968.611818.39600@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1144553968.611818.39600@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0615-0, 04/08/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Lines: 24 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 02:31:10 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.87.139.208 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net 1144636270 65.87.139.208 (Sun, 09 Apr 2006 19:31:10 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 19:31:10 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!nntp.upenn.edu!newsserver.news.garr.it!kanaga.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.in2p3.fr!in2p3.fr!proxad.net!proxad.net!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!207.69.154.102.MISMATCH!elnk-atl-nf2!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!1800c27c!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:332521 Gary Tayman wrote: > Interesting! So you had the same thing happen? > > What's interesting is the fact that my phone service is now shut off, > and I still cannot get access to the newsgroups, aside from Google > which is how you're reading this. > > I would ask specifically how you got back on, or what was found, but at > this point I really don't care. I've already made the decision to fire > these nitwits and move to another ISP. The only questions is, when. > Business is so heavy at the moment that I simply don't have time to sit > here and fiddle with computer settings for weeks on end, trying to set > up my new e-mail, etc. But rest assured, Earthstink's lack of support > this time around has been more than enough to force me to move. > > Gary Tayman > 78's, 45's, and UHP modems > Try signing into your earthlink account and create another email id. I think earthlink will let you create up to 5 email id. I used jsmcauley1@earthlink.net after jsmcauley@earthlink.net stopped working. Once you set up a new email id, you can go in to MS Lookout...er Outlook and set up usenet access for the new email ID. Scott. Article: 332522 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4439CBB7.D8C2B37@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Earthstink References: <1144290399.843613.296120@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1144372892.197874.200180@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1144553968.611818.39600@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 03:07:12 GMT js mcauley wrote: > > Gary Tayman wrote: > > Interesting! So you had the same thing happen? > > > > What's interesting is the fact that my phone service is now shut off, > > and I still cannot get access to the newsgroups, aside from Google > > which is how you're reading this. > > > > I would ask specifically how you got back on, or what was found, but at > > this poi