Article: 333950 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Beerbarrel <beerbarrel@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Philco 16B escutcheon
Message-ID: <mhur52919hlo73e0824n8ot6sc00ne4ntg@4ax.com>
References: <25525-445D59EE-1885@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> <1146991209.719376.271190@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 09:47:11 -0400

On 7 May 2006 01:40:09 -0700, "Steven" <ManyRumours@lycos.com> wrote:

>
>Ken G. wrote:
>> I cant find the old thread under stevens 1500 posts :-)
>>
>> More info . My radio is a big deco pointed top tombstone 11 tubes . Its
>> 4 band and takes the plastic escutcheon . I still need one please .
>>
>> And question . mine has 2 knob tuning instead of one i see in every
>> picture . Why ?
>>
>> Thanks
>
>This one?
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/rec.antiques.radio+phono/browse_thread/thread/19f811862809b267/6c2ec1246c1d1427?hl=en#6c2ec1246c1d1427


He does post a bunch of nonsense does he not? He has to be on some
sort of medication.

It’s Christianity vs. Islam. Let’s get this party started!


Article: 333951 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Beerbarrel <beerbarrel@cox.net>
Subject: Re: The Fisher 500C is Now For Sale, Not Mine!!
Message-ID: <5lvr52tdv88849hskbaoj7ts2p7snkp77f@4ax.com>
References: <-_adna9OOpMo3MfZRVn-vg@comcast.com>
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 10:05:59 -0400

On Thu, 4 May 2006 11:02:33 -0700, "graham" <grahamiba@comcast.net>
wrote:

>http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?vintelec&1151948685
>
>... for $500.00 or $600.00 ???
>
>.... I think all that helped him should send him a bill .....
>
>
>


That is a nice receiver. Too bad I just like boatanchors.

It’s Christianity vs. Islam. Let’s get this party started!


Article: 333952 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: New use for that old 8-track deck
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 07:45:10 -0700
Message-ID: <1t1s521invbdoautusuunhi44qqfba9pua@4ax.com>
References: <e3h22k$jl3$2@reader1.panix.com> <9730-445C2A39-1165@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> <qac7g.102$t32.33@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <4IOdndsJrdnvEcDZRVn-sw@comcast.com>

On Sun, 07 May 2006 02:03:58 -0400, Tom Adkins
<newton5@remove.comcast.net> wrote:

>  As of about 1999, my ex-inlaws bought a house that had an Avacado Green kitchen with 
>the dark wood trim so fashionable in the 70's. All original and working great.... 
>Yeeeccchhhh. Also had a "whole house vacuum system" plumbed into the home(Sears)along 
>with a "whole house TV antenna system" jacked into every wall(also from Sears). I 
>still say they should have sucked the whole thing into the vacuum system and watched 
>the fireworks as all that crap disintegrated, then started from scratch. The entire 
>house was 70's ick as far as it could go. <snip>

Actually, the "avocado and orange" craze started around 1967 and
lasted into the early '70s.  Tastes change, that's for sure.  20 years
>from now, that '70s kitchen will be "chic."


Article: 333953 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Gary Tayman" <caradio@verizon.net>
References: <e3jnnt$dud$1@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Subject: Re: Where to get jensen speakers reconed?
Message-ID: <JLn7g.3951$k%2.3931@trnddc03>
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 14:47:05 GMT

I don't know if this question requires an easy or complex answer.

Generally it seems every metropolitan area has at least one dealer that 
offers speaker reconing -- if you can't find one in your phone book, check 
with your nearest music store (i. e. Sam Ash, Thoroughbred, or independent) 
and see who they might recommend.

If this answer is too simple, meaning there's something special/unique about 
your Jensen speakers that I don't know about, then I would ask the same 
speaker reconers what they recommend.  Quite often they can find the 
replacement parts you need in a catalog, or they may offer a better quality 
driver to replace your original with similar crossover specs.

In my recent case with Peavey speakers, a local rebuilder told me the 
original Peavey drivers simply aren't worth fiddling with.  He offered a 
much better quality drop-in replacement, and along with some cabinet 
reinforcing (another big Peavey flaw), handed me back a speaker set far 
better than what the Peavey was when new (and I've been using them and they 
sound great!)



-- 
Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical
Sound Solutions For Classic Cars
http://www.taymanelectrical.com


"Old Radios" <mjmalin@wiscNOSPAM.edu> wrote in message 
news:e3jnnt$dud$1@news.doit.wisc.edu...
>I have a 12" and an 8" Jensen that need reconing.  Anyone know where I can 
>have these done?  Or, would anyone have either of these for sale?
>
> Thanks.
> Mark.
> 




Article: 333954 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Where to get jensen speakers reconed?
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 07:48:03 -0700
Message-ID: <q12s52tjrc87e4ra4heu92kql7asshterg@4ax.com>
References: <e3jnnt$dud$1@news.doit.wisc.edu>

On Sat, 06 May 2006 21:57:42 -0500, Old Radios
<mjmalin@wiscNOSPAM.edu> wrote:

>I have a 12" and an 8" Jensen that need reconing.  Anyone know where I 
>can have these done?  Or, would anyone have either of these for sale? <snip>

Weber/SVT has cone kits available for a lot of popular (meaning
gee-tawr amp application, mostly) pressed metal Jensen P and C series
speakers.  They also offer magnet slug remagnetizing services.

Damned if I can remember the site, but I'm sure you can find it.  I
bought a bunch of their cone kits and did a raft of P12-Ns a few years
ago.  They were better quality than OEM.


Article: 333955 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The Fisher 500C is Now For Sale, Not Mine!!
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 07:52:00 -0700
Message-ID: <t82s52hhr7opq4q42tedi3oia52kvnp381@4ax.com>
References: <-_adna9OOpMo3MfZRVn-vg@comcast.com> <X86dnTwAX_ouC8fZ4p2dnA@giganews.com> <1146926064.049071.291940@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <4sop52pu9n18p6keo6nnt9cl91dpb5cq05@4ax.com> <jbyrns-0705060003190001@216-80-74-176.d.enteract.com>

On Sun, 07 May 2006 00:03:19 -0500, jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) wrote:

>And the differences probably don't make the 800-C better on FM. <snip>

Exactly.  They both had the same rated sensitivity, 2 µV on FM,
considered excellent in the tube days.  In the FET days, 1.7 µV was
considered "normal."   I remember the 800C's AM section was quite
good.


Article: 333956 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The Fisher 500C is Now For Sale, Not Mine!!
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 07:52:55 -0700
Message-ID: <7d2s52122k4l59trhstgspeeuhvgqd4g1o@4ax.com>
References: <-_adna9OOpMo3MfZRVn-vg@comcast.com> <X86dnTwAX_ouC8fZ4p2dnA@giganews.com> <1146926064.049071.291940@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <4sop52pu9n18p6keo6nnt9cl91dpb5cq05@4ax.com> <jbyrns-0705060003190001@216-80-74-176.d.enteract.com> <1146995588.537334.264670@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>

On 7 May 2006 02:53:08 -0700, "CAINE" <bb69@epix.net> wrote:

>wow- awesome HH Scott webpage you have, John.  Good work ! <snip>

Great...now the rag picker's going to be looking for Scott units to
ravage and flog on the Net.


Article: 333957 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <445E0D30.C4F6C25D@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: mail from Phil's Vintage Radios
References: <tdydnfwdpqyuccDZnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@comcast.com>
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 15:08:35 GMT

William Sommerwerck wrote:
> 
> I received two e-mails from Phil's Vintage Radios this morning. Both looked
> legit, but Symantic Anti-Virus marked them as virus-laden and removed the
> images!
> 
> I don't know what's going on. Any idea?


   Where have you been for the last three or four years?  The SWEN virus
finds valid E-mail addresses on USENET and spreads itself by sending
itself to others in the same group, hoping that it will be opened
because the name is recognized.  Don't remember the virus E-mail flood
back then?  I was getting up to 3000 infected E-mails an hour for about
a week.


-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 333958 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer <nobody@cypherpunks.to>
Subject: catalin
Message-ID: <20060507154535.3947517119@mail.cypherpunks.to>
Date: Sun,  7 May 2006 17:45:35 +0200 (CEST)




Article: 333959 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Anonyma <anon-bounces@deuxpi.ca>
Subject: catalin
Message-ID: <d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e@deuxpi.ca>
Date: Sun,  7 May 2006 11:51:51 -0400 (EDT)




Article: 333960 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Philco 16B escutcheon
Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 09:57:21 -0600
Message-ID: <20607-445E18E1-1895@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1147014456.815812.272020@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

Thanks for those pictures . I can now see what knobs i am mising too . I
will keep trying for the escutcheon from time to time .  



Article: 333961 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: The posessed radio, final outcome
Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 10:16:18 -0600
Message-ID: <20607-445E1D52-1900@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1146973898.894683.60420@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

Glad you got it .... Try restoring a jukebox , talk about multiple
problems .



Article: 333962 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: New date, time, and location for NWVRS swapmeet
Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 10:13:41 -0600
Message-ID: <20607-445E1CB5-1899@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net>
References: <194r52133385c6oinnkntn6p0fahj20rai@4ax.com>

I lived 5 miles away from Aurora all my childhood . It is on Hiway 99E
You can get there off i-5 or take the Canby OR City exit off i-205  ,
drive aprox 12 miles on 99E through Oregon City , through Canby then
into Aurora The drive is beautifull .  

Aurora has enough antique shops quaint `eats` and coffee shop to keep
you bussy pretty much all afternoon , no need to drive you can walk to
all of them right from the Legion Hall I have done it many times .
What a great place for the meet !! Wish i was closer .  



Article: 333963 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" <kc4yoy@NOSPAM.carolina.rr.com>
Subject: DON'T FORGET> The NEW date is Saturday May 20th.
Message-ID: <rbq7g.28744$Sa1.23045@tornado.southeast.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 17:33:11 GMT

DON'T FORGET> The NEW date is Saturday May 20th.
Less than TWO WEEKS away.

Yes we know this is the same day as the Dayton Hamfest,
there's nothing that can be done about this year.

You can find detailed driving directions on the CC-AWA web
page at  http://www.cc-awa.org

As always with our Saturday events, admission is FREE,
vendor setup is only $5.

If you've never attended one of our Saturday morning events
before please understand that these events start early and are all over
before 12noon.

The park officially opens the gates at 8AM, but folks are usually
there by around 7AM.
If you sleep late and show up at 10 or 11 all you'll get to see is
the early birds packing up and heading home.

We look forward to seeing everyone there.


73, Ron kc4yoy

Radio Collection Web Page,
http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com







Article: 333964 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Steve O'Neill" <steve.o.neill?@worldnet.att.ten>
Subject: KLH Model 8 Restoration Advice Requested
Message-ID: <SZq7g.36157$Fs1.16044@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 18:26:58 GMT

Hi:

I have an old KLH Model 8 FM recvr that's been a "display" unit till now.
I've decided to get it into operating condition.  As such, I'll be doing the
usual recap/verify resistor work.  Although the work looks pretty
straightforward, two issues are on the near horizon:

1. The speaker grille is rather discolored and brown looking.  I've removed
it w/o damage but it looks quite fragile...like it's made from twisted
tissue paper that's then been coarsely woven into a fabric.  Can this be
cleaned in any way or should I just let it be?

2. I can't locate alignment info for it, only the schematic (which was on
the bottom).  The RF/IF circuit looks fairly conventional and I could
probably extrapolate an alignment procedure from other equipment of the time
but the "certified' procedure would be reassuring.  Any alignment tips or
places to look for this info?

I'm aware that this unit gets discussed here on occasion and sometimes in
great detail but I don't recall my specific issues recently.  Google
archives haven't been working well for me in this regard either so pointers
in the right direction are much appreciated.

TIA
-- 
Steve




Article: 333965 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Beerbarrel <beerbarrel@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Philco 16B escutcheon
Message-ID: <kdis52dcl7sjuta61tggebmd8hdt5h1b9n@4ax.com>
References: <25525-445D59EE-1885@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> <1146991209.719376.271190@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <mhur52919hlo73e0824n8ot6sc00ne4ntg@4ax.com> <1147025251.676037.73750@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 15:26:00 -0400

On 7 May 2006 11:07:31 -0700, "Steven" <ManyRumours@lycos.com> wrote:

>
>Beerbarrel wrote:
>> On 7 May 2006 01:40:09 -0700, "Steven" <ManyRumours@lycos.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Ken G. wrote:
>> >> I cant find the old thread under stevens 1500 posts :-)
>> >>
>> >> More info . My radio is a big deco pointed top tombstone 11 tubes . Its
>> >> 4 band and takes the plastic escutcheon . I still need one please .
>> >>
>> >> And question . mine has 2 knob tuning instead of one i see in every
>> >> picture . Why ?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >
>> >This one?
>> >
>> >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.antiques.radio+phono/browse_thread/thread/19f811862809b267/6c2ec1246c1d1427?hl=en#6c2ec1246c1d1427
>>
>>
>> He does post a bunch of nonsense does he not? He has to be on some
>> sort of medication.
>>
>> It's Christianity vs. Islam. Let's get this party started!
>
>I told you to stay out of my posts too, you drunken bitch

So much for meds that work...

It’s Christianity vs. Islam. Let’s get this party started!


Article: 333966 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: KLH Model 8 Restoration Advice Requested
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 13:20:23 -0700
Message-ID: <kels52lhq6mcjf65p5d7ljrij603ovvjna@4ax.com>
References: <SZq7g.36157$Fs1.16044@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>

On Sun, 07 May 2006 18:26:58 GMT, "Steve O'Neill"
<steve.o.neill?@worldnet.att.ten> wrote:

>1. The speaker grille is rather discolored and brown looking.  I've removed
>it w/o damage but it looks quite fragile...like it's made from twisted
>tissue paper that's then been coarsely woven into a fabric. <snip>

Nicotine.  Aside from Sommerwerck's "Oxy-Clean" idea, you can also try
an aqeuous solution of household ammonia and water, which should
prevent any further bleaching.  Ammonia's about the best water
soluable solvent for nicotine there is, and I've used it many times of
nicotine coated parts and cloth.

KLH 8...neat little radio in its day; also very stable, as he said.


Article: 333967 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Ken Scharf <wa2mzeNOTTHIS@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: push pull vs. single ended- opinions ?
References: <1146842828.653361.213950@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>   <bt0n52dqh4qvtv6g5p6nsa4slmvmfghkdd@4ax.com>   <1146849754.351698.17240@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146851527.370596.137900@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <YLs7g.15475$Sl4.3574@bignews1.bellsouth.net>
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 16:28:51 -0400

Peter Wieck wrote:
> YIKES....
> 
> Anyone who has read Dr. Dolittle (in the original) of course would be
> able to understand and answer this question.
> 
> We, all of us are single-ended, most of the time. Pushmepullyous are
> double-ended and suffer from a significant lack that gives them (a)
> rather distorted outlook(s) on life. However, in the case of SE, only
> crap comes out of that end that the PP unit lacks. So, you have the
> choice between some distortion or pure crap all the time.
> 
> Nothing in life is perfect. 
> 
> Peter Wieck
> Wyncote, PA
> 
The modern equivalent of this would be the "Cat-Dog"
cartoon on cable tv.


Article: 333968 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Ken Scharf <wa2mzeNOTTHIS@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs!
References: <44554181$0$33893$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> <18583-44557953-204@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net>
Message-ID: <8Ys7g.15476$Sl4.4725@bignews1.bellsouth.net>
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 16:41:51 -0400

Bill Sheppard wrote:
> From Martin:
> 
> 
>>My slight concern would be whether the 
>>insulation of the secondary would be 
>>happy with the CT fuse opening.
> 
> 
> I used to build full-wave doubler supplies using a radio power tranny, a
> 5U4 and a pair of TV damper tubes. 800V was taken off the 5U4's
> filament, and 400V was taken off at the hv ct. The *entire* hv winding
> was that high above ground, and performed quite happily. European
> transformers might be different in the layering sequence of their
> windings, though. 
>                  Bill(oc) 
> 
Such power supplies were quite common in amateur radio transmitter
designs.  The older ARRL handbooks are full of them.  I shudder to think
of the ones where the filaments of BOTH damper tubes shared a common
filament transformer winding (though these tubes by design had a
very high heater to cathode insulation).  Some of these supplies
used Si diodes in place of the dampers, the 5U4 (or 5R4) provided
a protection from in-rush in the charging of the HV supply capacitors
but the "LV" caps had to handle the full inrush as the diodes were
instant on.  Later designs used Si diodes throughout.

Even worse as far as inter-winding voltage was using the full
secondary in a full wave voltage doubler circuit.  A popular
single 811A linear design that appeared in the ARRL handbook used a single
monster tv transformer to deliver over 1200v by this method.


Article: 333969 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" <kc4yoy@NOSPAM.carolina.rr.com>
References: <ztmdnVsjtNhSoMPZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: Help ID Spark XMTR PLS
Message-ID: <k2t7g.28758$Sa1.8811@tornado.southeast.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 20:48:16 GMT

Carl, I think the spark coil with the spark on top and the interrupter
is old, most likely mid teens. I just happened to have been looking
through some of my early wireless catalogs just this AM and
there's lots stuff that looks like this.
As far as the base and remains of a key, I'm not sure.
The bottom key contact that's still on the board is not part
of a spark key, the contact is way to small.
The work is clearly old, may have been put together many years
ago, but I'm not sure it was ever used as a working spark transmitter.
If I run across a catalog listing for a spark coil I'll post a pic of it.

73, Ron kc4yoy

--

Radio Collection Web Page,
http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com



Carl WA1KPD <nantucketbound@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ztmdnVsjtNhSoMPZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Pic on A.P.B.R.
>
> Picked this spark xmtr up at the local ham flea market this weekend and
> wonder if anyone can identify it.
> It looks like a key was part of the front and it is missing the actual
key.
>
> I presume in the bottom there was plates for a capacitor but am open to
the
> thoughts of others.
> It looks to have been commercial and I wonder if anyone has any thoughts
on
> who made it.
>
> By the way if you have really sharp eyes you will notice the price is
> $12.00. The individual selling it is a friend and when I pointed out I
> thought it was worth much more, he gave it to me !!!
>
> 73
>
>
>
> --
> Carl
> WA1KPD
> Visit My Boatanchor Collection at
> http://home.comcast.net/~chnord/wa1kpd.html
>
>




Article: 333970 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Beerbarrel <beerbarrel@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Philco 16B escutcheon
Message-ID: <gavs52t5aku7l3r9d1vpc2rtn2bh1jm26e@4ax.com>
References: <25525-445D59EE-1885@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> <1146991209.719376.271190@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <mhur52919hlo73e0824n8ot6sc00ne4ntg@4ax.com> <1147025251.676037.73750@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <kdis52dcl7sjuta61tggebmd8hdt5h1b9n@4ax.com> <1147040162.894471.57560@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 19:06:50 -0400

On 7 May 2006 15:16:03 -0700, "Steven" <ManyRumours@lycos.com> wrote:

>G-zus Tracy. Lithium, glyburide and Actos (type II diabetes) lovastatin
>(cholesterol) and lisinopril (hypertension). One medication only. Are
>you trying to usurp DesertBob as head trash, or are you just ragging on
>because I blocked your email?
>
>You go get it started. You can't even go.


You aren't going to send me anymore email? There is a God!

It’s Christianity vs. Islam. Let’s get this party started!


Article: 333971 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Beerbarrel <beerbarrel@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Philco 16B escutcheon
Message-ID: <ip1t52hdhla3rvdofjh016q3v3hc51cdau@4ax.com>
References: <25525-445D59EE-1885@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> <1146991209.719376.271190@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <mhur52919hlo73e0824n8ot6sc00ne4ntg@4ax.com> <1147025251.676037.73750@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <kdis52dcl7sjuta61tggebmd8hdt5h1b9n@4ax.com> <1147040162.894471.57560@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <gavs52t5aku7l3r9d1vpc2rtn2bh1jm26e@4ax.com> <1147043833.566868.13430@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 19:49:05 -0400

On 7 May 2006 16:17:13 -0700, "Steven" <ManyRumours@lycos.com> wrote:

>I tried to take this off list, but you insisted. Someday you'll figure
>things out better.
>
>It didn't do you any good either.


No, I told you never to email me again and you keep emailing. What is
your major malfunction? Are you really that screwed up in the head?
Seems so to me!

It’s Christianity vs. Islam. Let’s get this party started!


Article: 333972 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Philco 16B escutcheon
Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 17:45:48 -0600
Message-ID: <18487-445E86AC-134@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1147043833.566868.13430@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

Can you 2 have your sex off line please :-)



Article: 333973 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Beerbarrel <beerbarrel@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Philco 16B escutcheon
Message-ID: <6f2t52t7q6jf3sv6us5hd77oeu7ublcvi1@4ax.com>
References: <1147043833.566868.13430@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <18487-445E86AC-134@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net>
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 20:00:18 -0400

On Sun, 7 May 2006 17:45:48 -0600, goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) wrote:

>Can you 2 have your sex off line please :-)


No! You have sex with the fat boy!

It’s Christianity vs. Islam. Let’s get this party started!


Article: 333974 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <445E8F79.B2C6C2C1@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Philco 16B escutcheon
References: <25525-445D59EE-1885@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> <1146991209.719376.271190@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <mhur52919hlo73e0824n8ot6sc00ne4ntg@4ax.com> <1147025251.676037.73750@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <kdis52dcl7sjuta61tggebmd8hdt5h1b9n@4ax.com> <1147040162.894471.57560@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <gavs52t5aku7l3r9d1vpc2rtn2bh1jm26e@4ax.com> <1147043833.566868.13430@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <ip1t52hdhla3rvdofjh016q3v3hc51cdau@4ax.com>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 00:24:31 GMT

Beerbarrel wrote:
> 
> No, I told you never to email me again and you keep emailing. What is
> your major malfunction? Are you really that screwed up in the head?
> Seems so to me!


   Forward all of them to his ISP, along with the email where you told
him to stop.


-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 333975 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Beerbarrel <beerbarrel@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Philco 16B escutcheon
Message-ID: <464t5295670sa5ded9r418b8lpp1ppnvn6@4ax.com>
References: <1146991209.719376.271190@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <mhur52919hlo73e0824n8ot6sc00ne4ntg@4ax.com> <1147025251.676037.73750@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <kdis52dcl7sjuta61tggebmd8hdt5h1b9n@4ax.com> <1147040162.894471.57560@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <gavs52t5aku7l3r9d1vpc2rtn2bh1jm26e@4ax.com> <1147043833.566868.13430@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <ip1t52hdhla3rvdofjh016q3v3hc51cdau@4ax.com> <445E8F79.B2C6C2C1@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 20:30:57 -0400

On Mon, 08 May 2006 00:24:31 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Beerbarrel wrote:
>> 
>> No, I told you never to email me again and you keep emailing. What is
>> your major malfunction? Are you really that screwed up in the head?
>> Seems so to me!
>
>
>   Forward all of them to his ISP, along with the email where you told
>him to stop.


I've been thinking of that Mike. The only emails that he sent me were
a threat. I never did respond to one of his posts until he responded
to one of mine. I guess I made a huge mistake in responding to him. To
his ISP they go.



It’s Christianity vs. Islam. Let’s get this party started!


Article: 333976 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Hagstar" <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Re: Scott Phantom Switch/ Ping Scott Harvey/ Scott Experts 
Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 20:41:41 -0400
Message-ID: <125t4ucjk1ga595@corp.supernews.com>
References: <125q3tarlfpoo64@corp.supernews.com>


  I'm taking a long
> time figuring out the trimmer screws- and Rider's isn't helpful for such

DUH, I found the needed diagrams in Riders. They're in with the regular 
Phantom info.

John H. 




Article: 333977 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Beerbarrel <beerbarrel@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Philco 16B escutcheon
Message-ID: <ii5t52pvkcvkakkn1656bovjoeio2fvlp9@4ax.com>
References: <mhur52919hlo73e0824n8ot6sc00ne4ntg@4ax.com> <1147025251.676037.73750@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <kdis52dcl7sjuta61tggebmd8hdt5h1b9n@4ax.com> <1147040162.894471.57560@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <gavs52t5aku7l3r9d1vpc2rtn2bh1jm26e@4ax.com> <1147043833.566868.13430@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <ip1t52hdhla3rvdofjh016q3v3hc51cdau@4ax.com> <445E8F79.B2C6C2C1@earthlink.net> <464t5295670sa5ded9r418b8lpp1ppnvn6@4ax.com> <1147049321.134576.47460@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 20:53:14 -0400

On 7 May 2006 17:48:41 -0700, "Steven" <ManyRumours@lycos.com> wrote:

>Yippee. It's not my ISP. I tried to get your drunk ass off the group so
>you could bitch without bugging the rest of the group I didn't feel I
>wanted to respond to the group. Of course, you CAN keep it public and
>leave it for lawyers if need be.
>
>Keep it up. It only harms the entire group.
>
>I haven't complained to Cox. You can complain to Lycos but they aren't
>my ISP. Mail servers are a dime a dance. You and Mike have all the fun
>you think you can. Since when have you been more than a small
>interruption in anything? All you do is teach me how to survive, which
>one of you doesn't have that much time for if they try to be Crusaders
>all the time. WIPE.


You could not afford a lawyer if they were assigened to you. What a
loon!

It’s Christianity vs. Islam. Let’s get this party started!


Article: 333978 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Beerbarrel <beerbarrel@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Philco 16B escutcheon
Message-ID: <rq5t52t1kjnnc5jq7os2ki1ofoovplea0v@4ax.com>
References: <1147025251.676037.73750@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <kdis52dcl7sjuta61tggebmd8hdt5h1b9n@4ax.com> <1147040162.894471.57560@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <gavs52t5aku7l3r9d1vpc2rtn2bh1jm26e@4ax.com> <1147043833.566868.13430@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <ip1t52hdhla3rvdofjh016q3v3hc51cdau@4ax.com> <445E8F79.B2C6C2C1@earthlink.net> <464t5295670sa5ded9r418b8lpp1ppnvn6@4ax.com> <1147049321.134576.47460@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <ii5t52pvkcvkakkn1656bovjoeio2fvlp9@4ax.com>
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 20:58:45 -0400

On Sun, 07 May 2006 20:53:14 -0400, Beerbarrel <beerbarrel@cox.net>
wrote:

>On 7 May 2006 17:48:41 -0700, "Steven" <ManyRumours@lycos.com> wrote:
>
>>Yippee. It's not my ISP. I tried to get your drunk ass off the group so
>>you could bitch without bugging the rest of the group I didn't feel I
>>wanted to respond to the group. Of course, you CAN keep it public and
>>leave it for lawyers if need be.
>>
>>Keep it up. It only harms the entire group.
>>
>>I haven't complained to Cox. You can complain to Lycos but they aren't
>>my ISP. Mail servers are a dime a dance. You and Mike have all the fun
>>you think you can. Since when have you been more than a small
>>interruption in anything? All you do is teach me how to survive, which
>>one of you doesn't have that much time for if they try to be Crusaders
>>all the time. WIPE.
>
>
>You could not afford a lawyer if they were assigened to you. What a
>loon!
>
>It’s Christianity vs. Islam. Let’s get this party started!


Let me fix that so even Steve can read it.

You could not afford a lawyer if they assigned you one from the nut
house that you reside it. I'm sorry for the typos. It's so hard to
type correctly when you are as drunk as I am.

It’s Christianity vs. Islam. Let’s get this party started!


Article: 333979 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Date: 8 May 2006 01:18:16 -0000
Message-ID: <IY9SIRNC38844.8876851852@anonymous>
From: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (Steven Dinius)
Subject: I got a new radio



-=-
This message was sent via two or more anonymous remailing services.






Article: 333980 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Date: 8 May 2006 01:34:13 -0000
Message-ID: <D1R5XBOL38844.8987615741@twistycreek.com>
From: Steven Dinius <anon@comments.header>
Subject: I got a new radio





Article: 333981 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <445EA020.4DB58ED4@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith Transoceanic 7000 - Back cover pops out from battery weight - 
References: <2u4t529o0u94tjpf90n090kosr4tqqvluq@4ax.com>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 01:35:36 GMT

davefr wrote:
> 
> I have a real "minty" Zenith 7000 Shortwave radio.  The back cover is
> held on by a push pin in the middle of the cover.  You push in the pin
> and it expands the surrounding prongs and it holds the cover in place.
> 
> Well, plastics back then got pretty brittle and I only have 1 of the
> four little prongs left on back of the cover.  It's not enough the
> hold it closed and the upper batterys tend to want to push the back
> cover open.
> 
> I'm sure there are plenty of workarounds but I'm looking for a method
> that doesn't require hacking, drilling, or kludging.
> 
> I'm sure I'm not the first with this issue.  Does anyone have any
> creative solutions that can leaves this radio in close to mint
> condition???
> 
> Any source of these push pins by chance??
> 
> TIA


   That depends:  What size is the hole, and how deep is it?  This
determines which one you need.  They are still used on some modern
equipment to hold Plexiglas over HV compartments.
-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 333982 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: David <rickets@knac.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith Transoceanic 7000 - Back cover pops out from battery weight - Any good fix??
Message-ID: <rdat525ib6u3kume52u7eskqlg03gtogk2@4ax.com>
References: <2u4t529o0u94tjpf90n090kosr4tqqvluq@4ax.com>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 02:15:30 GMT

On Sun, 07 May 2006 17:53:16 -0700, davefr <nospam@net.com> wrote:

>I have a real "minty" Zenith 7000 Shortwave radio.  The back cover is
>held on by a push pin in the middle of the cover.  You push in the pin
>and it expands the surrounding prongs and it holds the cover in place.
>
>Well, plastics back then got pretty brittle and I only have 1 of the
>four little prongs left on back of the cover.  It's not enough the
>hold it closed and the upper batterys tend to want to push the back
>cover open.
>
>I'm sure there are plenty of workarounds but I'm looking for a method
>that doesn't require hacking, drilling, or kludging. 
>
>I'm sure I'm not the first with this issue.  Does anyone have any
>creative solutions that can leaves this radio in close to mint
>condition??? 
>
>Any source of these push pins by chance??
>
>TIA
Velcro.



Article: 333983 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: push pull vs. single ended- opinions ?
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 19:31:31 -0700
Message-ID: <p3bt525l5r8odjoqa7m144h7h8sqb2b9qb@4ax.com>
References: <1146842828.653361.213950@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <T367g.7631$An2.3238@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1147047964.067315.113080@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>

On 7 May 2006 17:26:04 -0700, "CAINE" <bb69@epix.net> wrote:

>What I noticed is this- with an SE amp, I can play it with no tone
>adjustment and no EQ- it will sound just fine. <snip>

...all of which means you've never ever heard a truly good system in
your miserable, low life.  Must've been a bitch when Papa Noodles
disowned you, eh, Noodles?
>
>With a P-P amp, I have to add treble to even get near the clarity and
>detail the SE has, with no tone control adjustment.  Also the P-P amp
>requires the loudness button on at low levels, to hear the music. <snip>

You're such a pitiful retard.  What you've just done is expose your
ignorance of both electronics in audio and human hearing in one fell
swoop...but we already knew that.

> But
>then it starts sounding irritating, so I turn off the loudness and go
>back to zero setting on treble to listen to it longer. <snip>

Mexicans like to do that...lots of "boom and tizz," nothing in terms
of fidelity.  You like that too, eh, Noodles?
>
>It's a constant adjustment battle with the P-P amp, with the SE it's
>perfect as is. <snip>

The only "adjustment" that'd be perfect here is if your computer blew
up and epix.net canceled your access at the same time.
>
>The P-P amp has more bass punch, but it's fake bass punch- it's not
>faithful to the original recording. <snip>

You wouldn't know an "original recording" if one were jammed up your
huge derrière, Noodles.  You're such a bullshitting sack of
turds...couldn't WAIT to post to show your incredibly boundless
igrnoance, could you?


Article: 333984 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <445EAE05.36D026AB@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Philco 16B escutcheon
References: <1146991209.719376.271190@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <mhur52919hlo73e0824n8ot6sc00ne4ntg@4ax.com> <1147025251.676037.73750@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <kdis52dcl7sjuta61tggebmd8hdt5h1b9n@4ax.com> <1147040162.894471.57560@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <gavs52t5aku7l3r9d1vpc2rtn2bh1jm26e@4ax.com> <1147043833.566868.13430@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <ip1t52hdhla3rvdofjh016q3v3hc51cdau@4ax.com> <445E8F79.B2C6C2C1@earthlink.net> <464t5295670sa5ded9r418b8lpp1ppnvn6@4ax.com>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 02:34:54 GMT

Beerbarrel wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 08 May 2006 00:24:31 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> >Beerbarrel wrote:
> >>
> >> No, I told you never to email me again and you keep emailing. What is
> >> your major malfunction? Are you really that screwed up in the head?
> >> Seems so to me!
> >
> >
> >   Forward all of them to his ISP, along with the email where you told
> >him to stop.
> 
> I've been thinking of that Mike. The only emails that he sent me were
> a threat. I never did respond to one of his posts until he responded
> to one of mine. I guess I made a huge mistake in responding to him. To
> his ISP they go.


   Unless he's changed his ISP since I kill filed him he is posting from
Qwest.

http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=70.58.132.121&email=on


-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 333985 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jeffrey D Angus <jangus@socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: I got a new radio
References: <IY9SIRNC38844.8876851852@anonymous>
Message-ID: <90z7g.9086$Nk3.3103@tornado.socal.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 03:35:33 GMT

Another name for the kill file.

Steven Dinius wrote:
> -=-
> This message was sent via two or more anonymous remailing services.
> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 
RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to
the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal
force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED
under the Internal Security Act of 1950.


Article: 333986 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Bernie Bignose" <obnoxousjewbastadt@daberniebignosers.com>
References: <tdydnfwdpqyuccDZnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: mail from Phil's Vintage Radios
Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 23:37:01 -0400
Message-ID: <1ed9b$445ebce4$d1cc5b83$26596@snip.allthenewsgroups.com>


"William Sommerwerck" <gizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:tdydnfwdpqyuccDZnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> I received two e-mails from Phil's Vintage Radios this morning. Both
looked
> legit, but Symantic Anti-Virus marked them as virus-laden and removed the
> images!
>
> I don't know what's going on. Any idea?

I think Phil needs to check his PC for Trojans and/or remailler Worms.



Article: 333987 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: robert casey <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: mail from Phil's Vintage Radios
References: <tdydnfwdpqyuccDZnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@comcast.com>   <445E0D30.C4F6C25D@earthlink.net>   <1147040934.718598.239720@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147041189.768516.98740@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <_9z7g.1301$u4.142@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 03:46:02 GMT

Steven wrote:

> I only got 3400 a month. Somebody must hate you or some stupid thing.
> That's sad...a week!
> 
I remember that flood of trash too.  I ended up getting a copy of 
Mailwasher 2.0.  It lets me look at all the titles of the emails sitting 
at my ISP's server without downloading the entire email.  I can tell the 
ISP server via mailwasher to delete what I mark as being trash without 
my having to download it.  Which on dial up really matters.  Also doing 
this keeps most of the viruses out.  Not all, I did get nailed by a worm 
about 2 weeks ago.  PITA.


Article: 333988 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: mail from Phil's Vintage Radios
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 12:58:32 +0900
Message-ID: <e3mfhk$kca$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <tdydnfwdpqyuccDZnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@comcast.com>   <445E0D30.C4F6C25D@earthlink.net>   <1147040934.718598.239720@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147041189.768516.98740@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <_9z7g.1301$u4.142@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>


"robert casey" <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message 
news:_9z7g.1301$u4.142@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Steven wrote:
>
>> I only got 3400 a month. Somebody must hate you or some stupid thing.
>> That's sad...a week!
>>
> I remember that flood of trash too.  I ended up getting a copy of 
> Mailwasher 2.0.  It lets me look at all the titles of the emails sitting 
> at my ISP's server without downloading the entire email.  I can tell the 
> ISP server via mailwasher to delete what I mark as being trash without my 
> having to download it.  Which on dial up really matters.  Also doing this 
> keeps most of the viruses out.  Not all, I did get nailed by a worm about 
> 2 weeks ago.  PITA.

Mailwasher is great stuff.. wouldn't be without it. I've got 5.0 Pro. 
Nothing makes it to my inbox that I don't want to make it in there.





Article: 333989 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "jim menning" <jmenningSPAM@new.rr.com>
References: <1146991209.719376.271190@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   <mhur52919hlo73e0824n8ot6sc00ne4ntg@4ax.com>   <1147025251.676037.73750@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <kdis52dcl7sjuta61tggebmd8hdt5h1b9n@4ax.com>   <1147040162.894471.57560@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <gavs52t5aku7l3r9d1vpc2rtn2bh1jm26e@4ax.com>   <1147043833.566868.13430@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <ip1t52hdhla3rvdofjh016q3v3hc51cdau@4ax.com>   <445E8F79.B2C6C2C1@earthlink.net>   <464t5295670sa5ded9r418b8lpp1ppnvn6@4ax.com>   <445EAE05.36D026AB@earthlink.net> <1147066611.276822.149820@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Philco 16B escutcheon
Message-ID: <rYA7g.2837$WP5.2257@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 05:48:07 GMT


"Whatever" <thisjukeboxplays33rpm@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1147066611.276822.149820@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Report made to Earthlink. Strike two. I will not tolerate your behavior
> any further. CEASE and DESIST or face sanctions. Every incident will be
> reported and contact will not be tolerated.
>
> This is your only warning. My provider will be kept up to date.
>


Please stop switching your identity so those of us who want to avoid this mess can.

jim menning 




Article: 333990 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The Fisher 500C is Now For Sale, Not Mine!!
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 23:09:05 -0700
Message-ID: <ktnt52d4uhtqg7j5k3egp43csvdj0hfm3o@4ax.com>
References: <-_adna9OOpMo3MfZRVn-vg@comcast.com>   <1146826590.413661.46410@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146831006.628741.201590@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <14z7g.1292$u4.398@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>

On Mon, 08 May 2006 03:39:41 GMT, robert casey <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

>I think part of what's bugging us old timers in rar+p is that it looks 
>like he did the bare minimum repairs to get it to play, but not the 
>usual overhaul most of us do to radios and equipment we expect to get 
>many years of heavy use out of. <snip>

Duh...no kidding.  Didn't I warn "this group" about that on Day 1?
>
>Looked at his ad, I didn't see the word "mint".  He may have edited it 
>out or I just missed it.  Based on the pictures, I'd rate the appearance 
>as "reasonably decent shape, used but not abused".  I think it's dust on 
>the transformers, but if it's rust my rating would significantly drop. 
>In any event, it's not mint. <snip>

He edited it out.  He knew he might get ratted out (probably by me)
so, rather than incur the wrath of another pissed off customer, he
decided to hedge his bet.

This guy, Charlie Nudo aka 66fourdoor aka akaiam8, has a long history
of theft of copyrighted materal, counterfeiting of media and sleazy
eBay practices.  The feedback he has shows just how easily manipulated
eBay's phony feedback system is, and how gullible and/or easily bought
off eBay buyers are.  As I've learned the hard way, just about ANY
buyer with "retracted feedback" is probably a feedback scamster. Also,
look for bid retractions.  Noodles has have probably 10 since I've
been monitoring him.


Article: 333991 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: someone needs to have their eyes checked
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 23:11:30 -0700
Message-ID: <b7ot525r29j9c4uh326t5scm11cq599evh@4ax.com>
References: <-_adna9OOpMo3MfZRVn-vg@comcast.com>   <1146826590.413661.46410@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <1146831006.628741.201590@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146912777.737487.317160@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <l5GdnYDEYP0LRMHZRVn-qQ@giganews.com> <AtGdnY5XL6sBMsPZnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@insightbb.com>

On Sun, 7 May 2006 22:41:50 -0400, "t.hoehler"
<t.hoehler@insightbb.com> wrote:

>I totally agree. I rarely post on this group. I _really_ enjoy lurking, but 
>I have to say, in the last three weeks or so this ng has gone straight to 
>hell. No fun anymore, big waste of bandwidth, goodbye.
>Regards to all the adults, <snip>

As predicted, Charlie Nudo is ruining yet another Usenet group.

You can thank the "Googleheads" for providing Usenet access to retards
like Chalie Nudo.


Article: 333992 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" <nobody@nowhere.com>
Subject: fs - ohmite 50 watt, 1000 ohm rheostat, NOS
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 23:38:59 -0700
Message-ID: <lppt52hei9qb47kat39upfc6cu1igjhbqo@4ax.com>

$11 including postage in USA, NOS (new, unused, box is old and
brittle) Ohmite 50 watt 1000 ohm rheostat, ceramic, etc.

contact me off the list if interested.  
Bill

www.wbnoble.com

to contact me, do not reply to this message, 
instead correct this address and use it

will iam_  b_   No  ble   at  msn  daught   com

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Article: 333993 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jeffrey D Angus <jangus@socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: I got a new radio
References: <IY9SIRNC38844.8876851852@anonymous>   <90z7g.9086$Nk3.3103@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1147062848.722513.218600@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <oaD7g.14399$MP2.1429@tornado.socal.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 08:19:32 GMT

Whatever wrote:
> Are you guys having fun? I've been gone nearly 2.5 hours and I figured
> that would happen.

Do you honestly think I give a rat's ass what you think?

Sooner or later the library is going to get tired of cleaning
off various body fluids from the monitors and under the desks
>from every time you use their equipment.

Go ahead, have fun, continue to make RAR+P your personal "self-
abuse rag" it only makes it easier to get you thrown off the
net again.

Jeff

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RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to
the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal
force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED
under the Internal Security Act of 1950.


Article: 333994 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: push pull vs. single ended- opinions ?
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 18:50:52 +0900
Message-ID: <e3n468$t2e$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <1146842828.653361.213950@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <T367g.7631$An2.3238@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1147047964.067315.113080@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <p3bt525l5r8odjoqa7m144h7h8sqb2b9qb@4ax.com>


"DeserTBoB" <desertb@rglobal.net> wrote in message 
news:p3bt525l5r8odjoqa7m144h7h8sqb2b9qb@4ax.com...
> On 7 May 2006 17:26:04 -0700, "CAINE" <bb69@epix.net> wrote:
>
>>What I noticed is this- with an SE amp, I can play it with no tone
>>adjustment and no EQ- it will sound just fine. <snip>
>
> ...all of which means you've never ever heard a truly good system in
> your miserable, low life.  Must've been a bitch when Papa Noodles
> disowned you, eh, Noodles?
>>
>>With a P-P amp, I have to add treble to even get near the clarity and
>>detail the SE has, with no tone control adjustment.  Also the P-P amp
>>requires the loudness button on at low levels, to hear the music. <snip>
>
> You're such a pitiful retard.  What you've just done is expose your
> ignorance of both electronics in audio and human hearing in one fell
> swoop...but we already knew that.
>
>> But
>>then it starts sounding irritating, so I turn off the loudness and go
>>back to zero setting on treble to listen to it longer. <snip>
>
> Mexicans like to do that...lots of "boom and tizz," nothing in terms
> of fidelity.  You like that too, eh, Noodles?
>>
>>It's a constant adjustment battle with the P-P amp, with the SE it's
>>perfect as is. <snip>
>
> The only "adjustment" that'd be perfect here is if your computer blew
> up and epix.net canceled your access at the same time.
>>
>>The P-P amp has more bass punch, but it's fake bass punch- it's not
>>faithful to the original recording. <snip>
>
> You wouldn't know an "original recording" if one were jammed up your
> huge derrière, Noodles.  You're such a bullshitting sack of
> turds...couldn't WAIT to post to show your incredibly boundless
> igrnoance, could you?

My brain hurts... where does  he come up with all this crapola?  There is 
absolutely no reason whatsoever that a push-pull amp would sound a bit 
different than a single-ended amp given:

1) the same input signal
2) at the same level and
3) the same gain stages  (including tone control circuitry) up to the output 
drivers.

There are a lot of very clean high power push pull (cascade or standard) 
power amplifiers out there. For instance nearly every high end amp in 
existance.  There are some audiophools that think single ended amps sound 
better.. those would be the same ones that think that a CD sounds better if 
you run around the center hole with a magic marker.  I guarantee that you 
will never see a crossover point on any quality push-pull amp, and the 
frequency response curve is just as flat as can be.

The one thing that single ended amps can do better than push pull is produce 
a clean sine wave signal at frequencies far higher than the human  ear can 
hear.. but who cares? You can't hear them.  Any difference in the 'sound' of 
an amplifier is almost always due to differences in input circuitry and tone 
control circuitry.

*climbs down off her technician soapbox*





Article: 333995 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: push pull vs. single ended- opinions ?
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 18:52:52 +0900
Message-ID: <e3n4a0$t3e$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <1146842828.653361.213950@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <T367g.7631$An2.3238@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1147047964.067315.113080@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <p3bt525l5r8odjoqa7m144h7h8sqb2b9qb@4ax.com> <e3n468$t2e$1@news2.kornet.net>

P.S. Where has he even heard a single-ended amp with more than 4 or 5 watts 
of power, anyway? Anyone? Most single ended amps are found in basic radios 
and phonographs (and old ones at that, most modern stuff is p-p/cascade... 
this includes the IC output stuff) 




Article: 333996 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jeffrey D Angus <jangus@socal.rr.com>
Subject: eBay silliness at it's finest.
Message-ID: <axE7g.6161$yM.1230@tornado.socal.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 09:52:06 GMT

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/31/ebay_box_sale/

Words fail me.

Jeff

-- 
RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to
the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal
force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED
under the Internal Security Act of 1950.


Article: 333997 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Dave McClellan" <dave@mcclellans.com>
Subject: Origin of BEEHIVE term?
Message-ID: <5gH7g.7$227.6@fe04.lga>
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 08:58:27 -0400

Yes, I have read the archives of this group as well as searched Google.  And
yes I am aware that there is generally no agreement as to the definition of
the term.  Some apply it to any cathedral radio.  I prefer to apply it only
to ROUND TOPS.  IMHO cathedrals should have a pointed top like a gothic
cathedral window.

But my question is: WHERE DID THE TERM ORIGINATE?  Makes no sense to me.  A
so called "beehive" radio certainly does not resemble a beehive.

Just curious.




Article: 333998 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Where to get jensen speakers reconed?
From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa)
References: <e3jnnt$dud$1@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Message-ID: <sLH7g.963125$xm3.921809@attbi_s21>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 13:32:08 GMT

In article <e3jnnt$dud$1@news.doit.wisc.edu>, mjmalin@wiscNOSPAM.edu 
says...
>
>
>I have a 12" and an 8" Jensen that need reconing.  Anyone know where I 
>can have these done?  Or, would anyone have either of these for sale?
>
>Thanks.
>Mark.
>

Blink up www.ReCone.com and follow to your state to find a ReConer
for your speakers

John k9uwa



Article: 333999 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: jakdedert <jakdedert@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Who bends sheet-metal?
References: <1147090800.601154.242500@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <YXG7g.83837$dW3.77969@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> <1147093699.713233.270810@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <DiI7g.39161$MM6.15535@bignews3.bellsouth.net>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 09:10:47 -0500

Peter Wieck wrote:
> Thank you. I tried a couple in our stable of contractors. The problem
> is something that 'small', or so they tell me. I found something at
> Mouser that will fit after multiple punches, but a NG denizen has
> offered to make me one to fit exactly. And there is a local shop that
> will do it... they have a mere 5 weeks of backlog for off-standard
> onesies. 
> 
> Peter Wieck
> Wyncote, PA
> 
> 
I've seen a couple of DIY articles somewhere which detail a simple brake 
made from a couple of door hinges and pieces of hardwood.  I can't seem 
to remember just where, however.  IIRC it was pretty simple...maybe half 
an hour fab time....

OTOH, Googling "DIY sheet metal brake" brings up all kinds of irrelevant 
hits.  This is the only one which might be easy enough for a one-time 
project: <http://www.garymkatz.com/Charts/HomemadeBrake.htm>

What's happened to Google these days, anyway?  It seems that every link 
is an advertising site which has little to do with the search at hand, 
or an eBay link.

jak



Article: 334000 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "gudule" <gudule88@sympatico.ca>
Subject: WTB = TOP COVER FOR EICO 666 TUBE TESTER
Message-ID: <PgJ7g.1953$aq5.88437@news20.bellglobal.com>
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 11:21:08 -0400

Thanks




Article: 334001 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The Fisher 500C is Now For Sale, Not Mine!!
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 08:33:37 -0700
Message-ID: <pqou52porlctimhlpfqn8pn58hpj0sjp40@4ax.com>
References: <-_adna9OOpMo3MfZRVn-vg@comcast.com> <1146826590.413661.46410@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146831006.628741.201590@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <14z7g.1292$u4.398@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1147088815.245910.311450@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

On 8 May 2006 04:46:55 -0700, "CAINE" <bb69@epix.net> wrote:

>good observation- but what you old timers have to realize is, the
>Fisher 500c sold yesterday for $475, the guy is coming to my house to
>pick it up, a 5-hour round trip for him- and I am letting it hooked up
>for now to my speakers, so he can hear it first. <snip>

Wish I could be a fly on the wall at THAT audition!
>
>you fellas have to dismiss this "DeserTBob" and his bullshit stories,
>he's jading your judgment-  <snip>

"Jading...."  OK.
>
>repeat- I can't keep every radio I fix up and test- neither do all of
>you- I'm sure you've ALL sold quite a few over the years, yourselves.
>Most likely, many more than I have. <snip>

Noodles, QUIT LYING.  You have NO clue as to how to repair a "radio."
You don't know how one works.  You have no RF test gear.  You have
only a DVM you just bought, and a 1940s emissions tester.  You are, as
always, an unmitigated fraud.
>
>not every radio needs to be completely overhauled to be sale-able.
>When they opened up King Tut's Tomb, did they say "wow, all these
>ancient old gold artifacts are dusty,  they look terrible, just throw
>them away, they're worthless- and that rotted old mummy- gross- burn
>it"...no, the stuff is actually priceless. FORGET appearance, it
>doesn't matter in some cases.  But in this case, the 500c is in stellar
>condition.  The price was discounted $250 from a restored unit. <snip>

It's not "restored."  You did what you do to your 8 track
decks...wiped off the crud, smeared some Pledge on the cracked wooden
cabinet, hosed out the chassis with your QCD solvent, jammed some
cheap Russian tubes into it and that's as far as you ever get.

>Reason
>being a full resto costs $250 if farmed out to people who specialize in
>that. A restored unit goes for $700. <snip>

Noodles...QUIT LYING.  You scammed this thing on the cheap to make a
big killing, just like you tried to make a killing on that rusted '61
T-Bird and '49 Olds, and that failed, and you tried to make a killing
on 8 tracks, and that failed.  Charlie Nudo, you are a failure, as the
90% plus failure rate of your eBay auctions shows.

>there is no need to "completely restore" something, if it already
>plays. <snip>

Further ignorance shown.

> That unit was in a lot better shape than most realize.  When
>was the last time you saw an original owner Fisher 500c with manuals ?
>That's why it has value.  And the German made caps in that Fisher are
>closer to printed spec than most replacements are today ! <snip>

WTF did yo use, that "Cap Wizard?"  Give me a break.
>
>most collectors PREFER an unrestored unit that is in original condition
>and working. <snip>

Liar.

> I'd prefer an unrestored original stereo in good shape,
>to a doctored up one, anyday.   Same with old musclecars and antiques.
>the originals are worth the most, that are unrestored. <snip>

Again, a complete falsehood, and an excellent example of Charlie
Nudo's scrambled brain.


Article: 334002 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The Fisher 500C is Now For Sale, Not Mine!!
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 08:34:01 -0700
Message-ID: <p6pu52hkdso3km6v4m98gqa7fir0vmsh4l@4ax.com>
References: <-_adna9OOpMo3MfZRVn-vg@comcast.com> <1vKdnTWavIVQYMDZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@comcast.com> <1147089032.348914.93480@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 8 May 2006 04:50:32 -0700, "CAINE" <bb69@epix.net> wrote:

>sold- $475- pickup at my location
>
>what's your problem ?
>
>jealous ? <snip>

I'll give 3 to 1 the guy leaves quickly.


Article: 334003 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The Fisher 500C is Now For Sale, Not Mine!!
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 08:35:32 -0700
Message-ID: <68pu521shjc5b4fov24l9ap8gm5ee8tdni@4ax.com>
References: <-_adna9OOpMo3MfZRVn-vg@comcast.com> <1vKdnTWavIVQYMDZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@comcast.com> <1147089032.348914.93480@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <gPmdnWl1XbfJxMLZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com> <1147099678.947372.167650@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

On 8 May 2006 07:47:59 -0700, "CAINE" <winchester1886@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>wake up graham- you need a reality check- condition is subjective- <snip>

...to what bullshit spin Charlie Nudo aka 66fourdoor aka akaiam8 wants
to put on it at the time to make a sale.

>you're being a bit snooty thinking that amp isn't in nice shape-
>there's a waiting list on it now, 4 people want it- <snip>

Yeah...the four rats in Noodles' pocket.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>Re: Fisher 500c
>Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 8:37 AM
>Subject: Re: did you get the pictures
>
>
>I just viewed the pictures this morning. The Fisher looks great. Where
>do I send the check? <snip>

Fabricated email, as usual.  This is an old Charlie Nudo scam from way
back.


Article: 334004 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: push pull vs. single ended- opinions ?
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 08:39:07 -0700
Message-ID: <ibpu521hbg79rco9hauo3ql01ptcvrl9eu@4ax.com>
References: <1146842828.653361.213950@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <T367g.7631$An2.3238@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1147047964.067315.113080@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <p3bt525l5r8odjoqa7m144h7h8sqb2b9qb@4ax.com> <e3n468$t2e$1@news2.kornet.net>

On Mon, 8 May 2006 18:50:52 +0900, "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
wrote:

>My brain hurts... where does  he come up with all this crapola? <snip>

Charlie Nudo manufactures his own "reality" to sell crap on eBay or
elsewhere...nothing more.

>There is 
>absolutely no reason whatsoever that a push-pull amp would sound a bit 
>different than a single-ended amp given:
>
>1) the same input signal
>2) at the same level and
>3) the same gain stages  (including tone control circuitry) up to the output 
>drivers. <snip>

At normal listening levels, this would be absolutely true.  Only when
the amp is put up against the rails would the big differences between
Class AB P-P and Class A single become evident to even the most casual
and/or uneducated auditioner.
>
>There are a lot of very clean high power push pull (cascade or standard) 
>power amplifiers out there. For instance nearly every high end amp in 
>existance.  There are some audiophools that think single ended amps sound 
>better.. those would be the same ones that think that a CD sounds better if 
>you run around the center hole with a magic marker.  I guarantee that you 
>will never see a crossover point on any quality push-pull amp, and the 
>frequency response curve is just as flat as can be. <snip>

Amen to that!

>The one thing that single ended amps can do better than push pull is produce 
>a clean sine wave signal at frequencies far higher than the human  ear can 
>hear.. but who cares? You can't hear them.  Any difference in the 'sound' of 
>an amplifier is almost always due to differences in input circuitry and tone 
>control circuitry. <snip>

Well said, and completely accurate, thus proving that Charlie Nudo is
exactly as I stated from Day 1 in here...a fraud.


Article: 334005 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Standard SR-H105L
From: "IvAn" <ivek@post.htnet.hr>
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 17:39:30 +0200
Message-ID: <e3nolj$9dp$1@ss408.t-com.hr>

Please help.

Need schematics diagram of Standard SR-H105L.

Thanks in advance

Ivan




Article: 334006 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: push pull vs. single ended- opinions ?
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 08:41:24 -0700
Message-ID: <2hpu529vbed8n1cjloujotp43ok8v13e31@4ax.com>
References: <1146842828.653361.213950@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <T367g.7631$An2.3238@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1147047964.067315.113080@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <p3bt525l5r8odjoqa7m144h7h8sqb2b9qb@4ax.com> <e3n468$t2e$1@news2.kornet.net> <e3n4a0$t3e$1@news2.kornet.net>

On Mon, 8 May 2006 18:52:52 +0900, "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
wrote:

>P.S. Where has he even heard a single-ended amp with more than 4 or 5 watts 
>of power, anyway? Anyone? <snip>

To make it even more ridiculous, there is a homebrew design that was
floating around the net a few years back where the "designer" (I use
that term most loosely) had a "power amp" made up of no less than 10
WECO 417A triodes!  I had over 200 of them in stock at the time, and
made a fortune feeding them to that buffoon.

>Most single ended amps are found in basic radios 
>and phonographs (and old ones at that, most modern stuff is p-p/cascade... 
>this includes the IC output stuff) <snip>

Single-ended amps were done in these cheap applications simply because
they were CHEAP...no other reason.  What do people think they can get
out of a single triode anyway?  One thing's for sure...tons of THD!


Article: 334007 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: push pull vs. single ended- opinions ?
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 08:43:57 -0700
Message-ID: <1mpu52hjgc9it9hgmk66mba3abss0rgshm@4ax.com>
References: <1146842828.653361.213950@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <T367g.7631$An2.3238@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1147047964.067315.113080@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <p3bt525l5r8odjoqa7m144h7h8sqb2b9qb@4ax.com> <e3n468$t2e$1@news2.kornet.net> <e3n4a0$t3e$1@news2.kornet.net> <1147088976.955519.302970@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>

On 8 May 2006 04:49:37 -0700, "Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote:

>But your rant <snip>

First, her posts weren't "rants," but rather, pretty well written
statements of fact.

> is more-or-less assuming all other things are equal. As
>this thread more-or-less started out with Mr. Nudo comparing his Akai
>to his recently diddled Fisher 500C, in that case, things are most
>certainly *not* equal. It is very likely that the Fisher suffers from
>any number of other defects than those that were 'fixed' in order for
>it to pass signal. So, it is equally likely that what comes out of it
>is pretty crappy having nothing to do with its inherent design. So the
>comparison may be valid but the reasons for the differences are not. <snip>

Agreed.
>
>I pity the poor fool that actually buys the thing expecting a "Mint"
>condition receiver and receives a marginally-functional item with
>potentially dangerous/damaging failure conditions as-yet untreated. <snip>

If I drove five hours (with gas at $3.25/gal) to see this turd, I
think I might be inclined to make Mr. Nudo eat it on the spot!  Nudo's
tried these frauds before, saying he has a cornucopia of willing
buyers, only for us to see the same item returning to eBay about a
month later.  Such is the MO for your average low-life fraudster.

dB


Article: 334008 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Todd Tuckey" <tntquality@aol.com>
Subject: WTB: working 3A3 tube
Message-ID: <kOJ7g.990$re6.617@trndny04>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 15:51:44 GMT

Looking to buy a working..can be used...3A3 tube!  Can paypal instantly or 
send $$$...Todd  tntquality@aol.com 




Article: 334009 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: push pull vs. single ended- opinions ?
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 08:53:42 -0700
Message-ID: <8qpu529a9rrhkqof0ugdm84ackupnt2ifo@4ax.com>
References: <1146842828.653361.213950@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <T367g.7631$An2.3238@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1147047964.067315.113080@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <p3bt525l5r8odjoqa7m144h7h8sqb2b9qb@4ax.com> <e3n468$t2e$1@news2.kornet.net> <e3n4a0$t3e$1@news2.kornet.net> <1147088976.955519.302970@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1147090329.964425.117680@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 8 May 2006 05:12:10 -0700, "CAINE" <bb69@epix.net> wrote:

>Speakers- 1986 Technics- efficiency rating 93db/w/m printed right on
>the front
>
>15" woofer
>3" mid
>1.5" tweeter <snip>

And, of course, Jap speakers SUCK.  And, at 5 watts, he'll get an
ASTOUNDING  105 dB/w/m with the amps at clipping!  THAT'S what he's
listening to, the hash of the "soft clipping" of those ratty little
tape recorder amps, which he equated to "detail."  TOLD ya this guy's
a nut case.  He also admits to blowing a tweeter in this door stops,
probably because of running equipment to clipping, always a fatal blow
to any cheap tweeter.

>just rebuilt professionally under the lifetime guarantee I bought with
>them, in 1986 <snip>

"Professionally rebuilt?"  A speaker??? WTF????  I recone my own
drivers and rediaphragm my own compression drivers, mostly JBLs.
What'd he do, take those turds to "Tony's Guitar Shop" in Scranton?
>
>but that's just what's hooked up now- I have 7 other pairs of vintage
>speakers, including Fisher, Sony, Allied, JVC, Sonic, Technics <snip>

Fisher = eh
Sony = expensive trash
Allied = funny
JVC = trash
Sonic = K-Mart trash
Technics = bigger trash

He had some of those teensy ESS bookshelfers awhile back, but he
needed money, and so flogged them on fraudBay.  One thing the Japanese
have NEVER been able to do...design good speaker systems.

See?  Everything I've been trying to say about Noodles is 100% true,
isn't it?

Oh yes...why the Fisher didn't wind up in his NudoFraud® Industries
eBay machine, 66fourdoor?  Fear of bad feedback that'd be
unretractable.  People that get screwed for over $100 or so generally
would never agree to placate a fraudster with a feedback withdrawl.


Article: 334010 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: push pull vs. single ended- opinions ?
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 08:54:26 -0700
Message-ID: <gcqu52d6ra990g574cmtak4lt8s9l6dffe@4ax.com>
References: <1146842828.653361.213950@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <T367g.7631$An2.3238@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1147047964.067315.113080@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <p3bt525l5r8odjoqa7m144h7h8sqb2b9qb@4ax.com> <e3n468$t2e$1@news2.kornet.net> <e3n4a0$t3e$1@news2.kornet.net> <1147088976.955519.302970@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1147090380.803469.323450@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 8 May 2006 05:13:00 -0700, "CAINE" <bb69@epix.net> wrote:

>ps- the "poor fool" is driving to my home to pick this unit up, and
>will get to hear it first.
>
>now who's the poor fool, Peter ? <snip>

You will be, when he sees it and then flames you on Audiogon.  If he's
a moron and buys it, well, that's your target buyer, isn't it,
Noodles?


Article: 334011 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: push pull vs. single ended- opinions ?
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 08:57:44 -0700
Message-ID: <8equ52pgn96urdbg7gj2eksvk5jr2k6n2u@4ax.com>
References: <1146842828.653361.213950@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <T367g.7631$An2.3238@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1147047964.067315.113080@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <p3bt525l5r8odjoqa7m144h7h8sqb2b9qb@4ax.com> <e3n468$t2e$1@news2.kornet.net> <e3n4a0$t3e$1@news2.kornet.net> <1147090053.914060.65480@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>

On 8 May 2006 05:07:33 -0700, "CAINE" <bb69@epix.net> wrote:

>I have an Akai M8, that is a dual monoblock SE setup.
>
>I also bought a Zen 84B amp- but later sold it- it was slightly
>inferior to the M8.
>
>I also had a Magnavox SE amp from an old console- tested it, then sold
>the amp- that was also inferior to the M8.  It looked similar to this:
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9712628189&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 <snip>

Ever seen such BS in your LIFE?
>
>notice how that Mag. SE amp went for more than the entire floor antique
>radio that was in a thread here recently- 5x more- why do you think
>that happened ?  My Mag. went for $100 BIN.  Here's the old radio from
>previous auction, that only pulled $20
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6624533993 <snip>

Some idiot's going to try to make a guitar amp out of it, fool.  No
sane person would use those old pieces of crap for audio applications,
ever.

>so there you have it- <snip>

Yes, we do...Charlie Nudo is a lying sack of turds, and a room temp
IQ...in Celsius.

> an SE chassis alone, is worth more than an entire
>old radio. <snip>

Which is because:

1.) the idiot wanted to make a cheap gee-tawr amp out of it and
2.)  didn't want to pay the freight for all that cheesy wood.

>  If you want the most money for an old radio- take the SE
>amp out of it, if so equipped, and sell that separately.   That may
>sound like an insult, but it's the truth.  Take 2 old radios with SE
>amps, and they make a nice dual monoblock setup to play stereo out of. <snip>

Only ONE person alive would think this is sane...Charlie Nudo.
>
>Single ended made a huge comeback in stereo circles- SE's are being
>pumped out like hotcakes now.  SE is where it's at- what brought it on
>was, CD's sound so flat and shitty, they need a tube amp to have any
>musical quality to them. <snip>

CDs sound "flat and shitty" because they're distortion free on a good
playback system.  You want all that distortion of worn out records and
badly duplicated analog tape.  In short, you're a moron.


Article: 334012 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: push pull vs. single ended- opinions ?
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 08:58:45 -0700
Message-ID: <1kqu52lnr69o9jju2dh0ho68u00sdk4817@4ax.com>
References: <1146842828.653361.213950@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <T367g.7631$An2.3238@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1147047964.067315.113080@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <p3bt525l5r8odjoqa7m144h7h8sqb2b9qb@4ax.com> <e3n468$t2e$1@news2.kornet.net> <1147089303.737016.6680@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>

On 8 May 2006 04:55:03 -0700, "CAINE" <bb69@epix.net> wrote:

>Do some back to back testing- your ears will tell you different- there
>is a difference between the 2- an SE has a more open sound than a P-P,
>if you have good hearing, you can tell right off.  You need to do your
>homework there. <snip>

Too ridiculous for me to reply!
>
>P-P has distortion that is not present in SE.  It may have the same
>amount or even less PERCENTAGE wise, but it has ODD ORDER harmonic
>distortion, which sounds quite objectionable- and is why you reach for
>the volume knob to turn it down, when it's too loud and shitty
>sounding. <snip>

As usual, he knows nothing of what he speaks.
>
>A lot depends on how good you can hear, and how old you are.  To a 70
>year old with deteriorated hearing, what does it matter ?
>
>And I admit, that will be all of us, someday. <snip>

That's YOU NOW, Noodles.


Article: 334013 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: someone needs to have their eyes checked
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 09:05:43 -0700
Message-ID: <moqu529k51nnv6eujh927r3f6qvegfj5vl@4ax.com>
References: <-_adna9OOpMo3MfZRVn-vg@comcast.com> <1146826590.413661.46410@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146831006.628741.201590@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146912777.737487.317160@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <l5GdnYDEYP0LRMHZRVn-qQ@giganews.com> <AtGdnY5XL6sBMsPZnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@insightbb.com> <b7ot525r29j9c4uh326t5scm11cq599evh@4ax.com> <1147069715.042412.149580@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 7 May 2006 23:28:35 -0700, "Whatever"
<thisjukeboxplays33rpm@yahoo.com> wrote:

>And you can thank me for reporting you as the alledged perp behind the
>spoofing. <snip>

What "spoofing?"
>
>You gave yourself away with anon poster answering the challenge made to
>you in the 8 track group. You made no posts during the entire time the
>Anon posted, or even just posted and empty post. <snip>

You're speaking of Nudo, no doubt.  You have the two confused.
>
>Your harassment knows no boundaries, and any indication that you wanted
>sympathy and to ally with the group was shattered by your obscenely
>obtuse behavior that got worse and worse. You alter your affinities
>over the pettiest of things, as if all you wanted was to take advantage
>of somebody and walk ove them to the next. <snip>

Methinks you have a cognitive disorder.

>You have become Charlie as sure as you created him, the snake that eats
>itself. <snip>

Charlie Nudo of Drums, PA, has epix.net as his ISP.  He has several
"trash" MAPI email accounts, to wit:

winchester1886@yahoo.com
nativebrookie@hotmail.com

...of which several have already been banned from Google, to wit:

trippingtoo8track@yahoo.com
trippin28track@yahoo.com
coltblackpowder@hotmail.com
powerchordg@yahoo.com
dynobot@hotmail.com

...and a few of his POP3/SMTP addys:

thenudofamily@epix.net
hsf18@epix.net (banned by Google already)
analog@epix.net
bb69@epix.net

...and probably others

I use only one "trash" account on Yahoo.

Now, what were you saying about "spoofing?"  I do not understand your
contention.


Article: 334014 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: someone needs to have their eyes checked
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 09:45:52 -0700
Message-ID: <mosu52tb0f50l2c1polt6istem7eofkaqm@4ax.com>
References: <-_adna9OOpMo3MfZRVn-vg@comcast.com> <1146826590.413661.46410@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146831006.628741.201590@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146912777.737487.317160@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <l5GdnYDEYP0LRMHZRVn-qQ@giganews.com> <AtGdnY5XL6sBMsPZnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@insightbb.com> <b7ot525r29j9c4uh326t5scm11cq599evh@4ax.com> <1147069715.042412.149580@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 7 May 2006 23:28:35 -0700, "Whatever"
<thisjukeboxplays33rpm@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Subject: Re: someone needs to have their eyes checked
>Date: 7 May 2006 23:28:35 -0700
>Organization: http://groups.google.com
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>Message-ID: <1147069715.042412.149580@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
>References: <-_adna9OOpMo3MfZRVn-vg@comcast.com>
>   <1146826590.413661.46410@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
>   <1146831006.628741.201590@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
>   <1146912777.737487.317160@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
>   <l5GdnYDEYP0LRMHZRVn-qQ@giganews.com>
>   <AtGdnY5XL6sBMsPZnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@insightbb.com>
>   <b7ot525r29j9c4uh326t5scm11cq599evh@4ax.com>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.58.132.121
>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>X-Trace: posting.google.com 1147069720 16017 127.0.0.1 (8 May 2006 06:28:40 GMT)
>X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
>NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 06:28:40 +0000 (UTC)
>In-Reply-To: <b7ot525r29j9c4uh326t5scm11cq599evh@4ax.com>
>User-Agent: G2/0.2
>X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
>Injection-Info: j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=70.58.132.121;
>   posting-account=LDYAvQ0AAADZRPoMd8VG8UbX6p8bk4pQ
>
>And you can thank me for reporting you as the alledged perp behind the
>spoofing. <snip>

I've done an ort's worth of research.  First of all, it is "alleged,"
not "alledged."

Second, you are another "goo goo grooper," having no direct Usenet
access, and with no real clue as to Usenet or NNTP.

Third, from your header, I can see you're in Qwest territory and
posted into "goo goo" via a Qwest server on 70.58.132.121.  If you are
inferring that somehow I am Charlie Nudo, you are incorrect in that
assumption, since my IP and his are different and it would be very
difficult, nay, impossible to access both from the same geographical
location.  ALL of Charlie Nudo's posts trace back to Epix in Dallas,
PA, a little dirtbag ISP with a small geographical service area.  Nudo
has already been thrown off of a couple of other local ISPs.  Of
course, me being almost 3K miles away, have no access to epix.net.
Thus, your assertion is patently false.

If you're going to start trying to be a "net detective," at least
learn how the system works before you start making wild accusations.
And yes, I DID check you out, thinking that there was a possibility
that you were yet another Charlie Nudo clone posting from Epix.  Such
turned out to be not the case, and you're simply laboring under a
false assumption...or something.

Having been on Usenet almost since public access was allowed, I've
seen it degenerate into a morass of slimeballs and 'tards like Charlie
Nudo and many, many others.  Opening access to the NNTP/NNRP network
by "goo goo" was probably one of the worst things ever to happen to
Usenet, ever.  It allowed legions of 'tards and trolls to have access
to Usenet, where formerly, the use of a Usenet news client and access
to an NNTP server was too "heady" and complex for them, thus keeping
them out, for the most part.  We used to have "smart" trolls...now,
there are many many times more dumb ones, like Nudo.

And you're not helping, either.


Article: 334015 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: KLH Model 8 Restoration Advice Requested
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 10:12:09 -0700
Message-ID: <b4uu52htbbsfdghm63ecal03hqr7tte04u@4ax.com>
References: <SZq7g.36157$Fs1.16044@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>   <kels52lhq6mcjf65p5d7ljrij603ovvjna@4ax.com> <1147037072.277300.270870@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <19qdnfSNWZbZDMPZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com>

On Sun, 7 May 2006 17:32:39 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
<gizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

>Although the Model 8 cum Model 13 was not unique -- other companies produced
>table-top FM radio/multiplexer adapter combos (there's a Web page showing
>some of them) -- but it was the best of the lot. <snip>

KLH also fielded an array of interesting, if not totally competent,
loudspeakers, which was their main market.  Like everything else in
the US today, the name has been sold to offshore-oriented (pun
intended) concerns, and now adorns really bad, cheap car stereo
speakers that are similar in size to the old Rat Shack "Minimus 7"
speakers, which raised some eyebrows back in their day.  Although the
Minimi could produce fairly good sound for their size, they were
basically "heat sinks" in terms of efficiency, coming in down around
the low 80s.

The original KLH "bookshelf" speakers were no champs in efficiency
either, although far better than the absolute worst of them all, the
ARs.  The KLHs seemed to offer oodles of "mid-bass hump" to please
most rock and pop users, while not putting out much at all below
around 60 Hz.  Nice smooth dome tweeters, though.

Getting back tot he KLH 8/13, it was about the first time that I
remember a small, but really good sounding table radio, one that
wasn't laden with the typical distortion and bad tuner which were
standard at the time.  Frequency response was hardly wide, but well
balanced, chopping the bottom and top off equally, per Messrs.
Fletcher and Munson's theory that each should be curtailed equally to
preserve the illusion of "fidelity."  We recently saw this concept of
a "hi-fi table radio" taken over by Amar Bose's shlock shop in Noo
Hampstah, which is churning out tons of cheaply made/questionably
designed "Bose Music Centers", which, like all of Dr. Bose's product,
are merely smoke and mirrors.

Another inexplicably well sounding radio, this time a portable:  A GE,
built around 1960-61, all germanium, black heavy plastic case with
phony leather grain and top mounted leather handle, window screen
grille cloth, 4" speaker, AM/FM, flashy chromium plated grille.
Astoundinly good sound, but I think that one was probably an accident
of design.  My dad STILL has that thing, it still sounds well, and is
about the only germanium powered device I've ever seen (aside from
some German product using Amperex xsistors) in which all the
germaniums haven't gone leaky.  Drifty and fairly insensitive FM
tuner, though, even after a recap and lineup.  I've never found
another one of the same model, ever.


Article: 334016 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: someone needs to have their eyes checked
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 12:35:17 -0700
Message-ID: <l97v52tgskci1t90jfqrnrctmgtoe8m5ko@4ax.com>
References: <-_adna9OOpMo3MfZRVn-vg@comcast.com> <1146826590.413661.46410@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146831006.628741.201590@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146912777.737487.317160@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <l5GdnYDEYP0LRMHZRVn-qQ@giganews.com> <AtGdnY5XL6sBMsPZnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@insightbb.com> <b7ot525r29j9c4uh326t5scm11cq599evh@4ax.com> <1147069715.042412.149580@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147111816.453432.251230@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

On 8 May 2006 11:10:16 -0700, "CAINE" <winchester1886@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>he created himself, just take a look what that poor excuse for a person
>will do, to a newsgroup, if you let him- a real post whore- read down
>the titles on the page
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.collecting.8-track-tapes?lnk=li
>
>he's headed for that here as well <snip>

Noodles, your projection trick won't work, as it never has.  People
know who you are, and you came into this NG to steal information to
try to make a huge, quick profit.  That's there for all to see, so
knock off the idiotic "projection" of your own character flaws upon
others.


Article: 334017 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: someone needs to have their eyes checked
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 12:37:52 -0700
Message-ID: <lc7v5251rup9og4nt2mulapmrd8dbgpnv4@4ax.com>
References: <-_adna9OOpMo3MfZRVn-vg@comcast.com> <1146826590.413661.46410@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146831006.628741.201590@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146912777.737487.317160@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <l5GdnYDEYP0LRMHZRVn-qQ@giganews.com> <AtGdnY5XL6sBMsPZnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@insightbb.com> <b7ot525r29j9c4uh326t5scm11cq599evh@4ax.com> <1147069715.042412.149580@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147111816.453432.251230@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

On 8 May 2006 11:10:16 -0700, "CAINE" <winchester1886@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>he created himself, just take a look what that poor excuse for a person
>will do, to a newsgroup, <snip>

For those unenlightened enough to know, in the NG he specified, he is
"duty-honor-country," the motto of the US Army Military Acadamy at
West Point, although he never served in any branch of the US armed
forces at all.  Many other right wing whack jobs do similar things.

If you trace the IP #s, you can indeed see that "duty-honor-country"
equal "CAINE" in here and is Charlie Nudo, of Drums, PA.

Sorry, Noodles...all anyone has to do to track you down is trace where
you're posting from, and you're instantly busted.


Article: 334018 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Lynn Coffelt" <coffelt2@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Help ID Spark XMTR PLS
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 13:29:23 -0700
Message-ID: <e3o9jp$p4k$1@emma.aioe.org>
References: <ztmdnVsjtNhSoMPZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@comcast.com>


"Carl WA1KPD" <nantucketbound@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ztmdnVsjtNhSoMPZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Pic on A.P.B.R.
>
> Picked this spark xmtr up at the local ham flea market this weekend and
> wonder if anyone can identify it.
> It looks like a key was part of the front and it is missing the actual
key.
>
> I presume in the bottom there was plates for a capacitor but am open to
the
> thoughts of others.
> It looks to have been commercial and I wonder if anyone has any thoughts
on
> who made it.
>
> By the way if you have really sharp eyes you will notice the price is
> $12.00. The individual selling it is a friend and when I pointed out I
> thought it was worth much more, he gave it to me !!!
>
> 73
>
>
>
> -- 
> Carl
> WA1KPD

     Well, it is an induction coil for generating a spark, but for it to be
any sort of transmitter, (except for just a noise generator) it needs to
have an RF tuning circuit coil(s)/capacitor(s).
     There were induction coils similar to yours used for the spark ignition
on really ancient gasoline engines. Sometimes there was a "safety" gap
(spark gap) provided to keep the fire from jumping around inside the
induction coil if the "high tension" output lead to the engine's spark plug
(the load) became disconnected.
     I've never seen an induction coil with such a well built spark gap used
as the "safety" gap.
     To make it clear, I sure don't know what you've got! (should have kept
quiet in the first place)
Old Chief Lynn W7LTQ




Article: 334019 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Brian McAllister <Sunset@Blandings.com.invalid>
Subject: Re: Who bends sheet-metal?
Message-ID: <t0bv52tf1a41hk5rsm0hp4mmuoctvva6ch@4ax.com>
References: <1147090800.601154.242500@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <YXG7g.83837$dW3.77969@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> <1147093699.713233.270810@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <DiI7g.39161$MM6.15535@bignews3.bellsouth.net> <445F567D.314120AC@earthlink.net> <1147119448.994399.194500@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 20:41:00 GMT

On 8 May 2006 13:17:29 -0700, "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Much faster, cheaper and easier to build or buy a brake. Lindsay
>Publications sells plans. Several metal working magazines have ads for
>moderately priced ones. Look in race car magazines for circle track
>racers or Home Shop Machinist.


Harbor Freight has this bending brake and shear and several other
brakes

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=90757
Brian McAllister

Sarasota, Florida

email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die


Article: 334020 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <445FAD46.18C2FB43@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Who bends sheet-metal?
References: <1147090800.601154.242500@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 20:43:57 GMT

Bret Ludwig wrote:
> 
>  Much faster, cheaper and easier to build or buy a brake. Lindsay
> Publications sells plans. Several metal working magazines have ads for
> moderately priced ones. Look in race car magazines for circle track
> racers or Home Shop Machinist.


   Harbor Freight sells a small brake.


-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 334021 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <445FAE24.A88A9A2@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: How to use an old RCA reel to reel deck?
References: <1147119777.766181.203560@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 20:47:39 GMT

petervh@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I just picked up an RCA reel to reel from a garage sale, supposedly
> from the 70's. It's a 7/12" vertical deck. It came with one reel of
> tape, and one empty reel. The full reel is on the left spindle, the
> empty reel is on the right.
> 
> I want to start using tape loops on an album i'm working on...but the
> first thing I want to do is learn how to make the thing play!
> 
> How do I hook the end of the left hand reel up to the empty right hand
> reel? How do I get the tape to catch properly so it plays?
> 
> Can't find any manuals online, so I'm hoping from some help from you
> guys.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> - Peter


   There should be a slit in the hub of the empty reel.  The end of the
tape goes there, and you turn the empty reel a couple turns to make
friction hold it in place.

   What is the model number of the tape recorder?


-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 334022 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <445FAED2.18EA2BC5@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: WTB: working 3A3 tube
References: <kOJ7g.990$re6.617@trndny04> <1147121111.589122.52880@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 20:50:33 GMT

BH wrote:
> 
> Surplus Sales in NB is asking 8.00 for new ones. Should not be hard to
> beat that price however as TV tubes are not exactly demand items and
> the 3A3 was popular in its day.
> 
> Bruce


  I have 23 new 3A3C tubes in stock: file:///C|/My
Documents/_Websites/Electronics/Eptub.html make me a decent offer for
one and its yours.  your choice of GE or Westinghouse.


-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 334023 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: How to use an old RCA reel to reel deck?
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 14:28:01 -0700
Message-ID: <vsdv52h1nnf0cfv7e0aldhje5mgfumtpg3@4ax.com>
References: <1147119777.766181.203560@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <445FAE24.A88A9A2@earthlink.net> <1147122760.352252.181960@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>

On 8 May 2006 14:12:40 -0700, petervh@gmail.com wrote:

>The model is a YLG43. I was able to get the tape locked in through your
>directions...but this brings up a couple other problems..
>
>When I press play, the tape head comes up, and the tape from the left
>hand reel gets pulled out, but the right hand reel dosen't turn, so
>it's just a big mess of tape... <snip>

Belt or clutch.

You'll also find that "tape loops" may not work too well on this
machine, due to the lack of leading/trailing guides.

You're obviously a kid.  Why aren't you doing this digitally?


Article: 334024 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The Fisher 500C is Now-SOLD-
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 14:29:50 -0700
Message-ID: <91ev52p6kn60ohcr1eff8bq5885c5b304k@4ax.com>
References: <-_adna9OOpMo3MfZRVn-vg@comcast.com> <1147099927.650482.131010@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 8 May 2006 07:52:07 -0700, "CAINE" <winchester1886@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>bill that <snip>

Again, I think Noodles is lying.  He always does in cases like this,
with the item only to wind up on the market somewhere else at a later
time.


From adouglasatgis.net Fri May 12 09:53:37 EDT 2006
Article: 334025 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Alan Douglas <adouglasatgis.net>
Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Origin of BEEHIVE term?
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 17:19:40 -0400
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Hi,
   I doubt if the "beehive" term was used before the 1950s or 60s. For
that matter "cathedral" is relatively new too.  In the 30s they were
"midget" or "mantel" radios.

Alan
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Article: 334026 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Kokomo Indiana Radio PICTURES
From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa)
References: <44594387$0$6153$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> <GUb6g.930264$x96.885431@attbi_s72> <36c6g.37$WP5.3@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <jTO7g.963650$xm3.319988@attbi_s21>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 21:38:23 GMT

In article <36c6g.37$WP5.3@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>, jmenningSPAM@new.rr.com 
says...
>
>

Excellent time had by us and all that attended the Kokomo, IN radio
meet this weekend!.. 

Kokomo Pictures

Click this up to see the pictures.. 

http://johnjeanantiqueradio.com/Kokomo.htm

I was a good boy... only bought one Console a Zenith 10s470
Jean was ... well almost happy with me!

John k9uwa



Article: 334027 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <445FBDC3.68B7EACD@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: How to use an old RCA reel to reel deck?
References: <1147119777.766181.203560@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 21:54:20 GMT

petervh@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> The model is a YLG43. I was able to get the tape locked in through your
> directions...but this brings up a couple other problems..
> 
> When I press play, the tape head comes up, and the tape from the left
> hand reel gets pulled out, but the right hand reel dosen't turn, so
> it's just a big mess of tape...
> 
> As well, when I press rewind, the left hand reel starts spinning, but
> the right hand reel dosen't move, and another big mess of tape is
> created...
> 
> Lastly, when I press fast forward, nothing moves. Actually, I believe
> the whole thing shuts off, I believe the right hand reel should be
> moving here?
> 
> Am i just doing something stupid and wrong? Or is it likely that the
> right hand reel motor is shot? Or maybe just a belt fell off?
> 
> Thanks for all the help!
> 
> - Peter


   These models use a "friction disk" AKA "slipping clutch" to drive the
take-up reel and they are usually worn badly.  Some can be adjusted to
work again, while others need the clutch material replaced. The
mechanical parts are covered in Sams TR-42, which was published in 1968.


-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 334028 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Hagstar" <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Re: Kutztown Roll Call
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 17:56:06 -0400
Message-ID: <125vfjtfpe68tdf@corp.supernews.com>
References: <1147095875.631807.235110@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

 Vermont Console Rescue will be set up at #313 IIRC, same spot as last Fall. 
I'm camping outside of Binghamton Thur. PM so I'll be there be there Friday 
by noon. Look for the white van with VT plates and a black and white 
Springer and crazy old white Corgi/Border Collie. I actually don't have too 
too much to sell, but I always have something. Plus Peter from the host club 
bought my RCA 262 off the 'Bay and I have to drop it off.

Looks like maybe some rain but no hurricane. Hopefully I'll make it though 
the auction but since I'm headed back to VT in one shot Sat. I'm not 
certain. See you all there!

John H. 




Article: 334029 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Ken Doyle" <kensoldradiorepair@yahoo.com>
References: <-_adna9OOpMo3MfZRVn-vg@comcast.com>   <1146826590.413661.46410@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <1146831006.628741.201590@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <1146912777.737487.317160@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   <l5GdnYDEYP0LRMHZRVn-qQ@giganews.com> <1147088069.059992.146550@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: someone needs to have their eyes checked
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 18:00:54 -0400
Message-ID: <CvadnYjPZYPLIsLZRVn-og@giganews.com>

"CAINE" wrote;
> That's a stretch- first off, I never told anyone to f-off.

> Secondly, it was John Doe and John Doe who were the "hands that
> feed".  Both emailed me privately with tips and help.
>
> I don't believe you contributed anything to that thread.
>
> Lastly, who are you, to dictate what someone can do with their own
> property ?  Based on what, your membership on this un-moderated Google
> Group ?
>
> Are you nuts ?

(nice question)

This is the same argument you give when you outright refuse to use FA in the
header of a FA post.
By the way, Google is just one (crummy) way to access Usenet Newsgroups, but
this is NOT a Google group.  Membership?  What membership?  Get a real
newsreader and you'll see what it's really all about.

Unmoderated?  Well I guess one doesn't have to be nice in public either, but
most of us prefer not to be pricks. In society, the pricks will be asked
over and over again to comply.  Some of them will never learn and will hear
the same admonishments untill they return to the soil.


> The Fisher is sold- $475- live with it.  The SE Akai rig I have sounds
> better.  The Fisher was bought to fix up and compare.  If it performed
> better than the Akai SE, it would have replaced the Akai SE.  But that
> didn't happen.  I have dozens of stereo components here.   I can't keep
> every one I test- I'd need a storage shed the size of Madison Square
> Garden to do so.  Get a reality check !

Reality check about what?  Are you telling me to f*** off again?

Be nice, this is a hobbyist hangout.
Ken D.




Article: 334030 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <445FC5EC.67CD5C24@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: How to use an old RCA reel to reel deck?
References: <1147119777.766181.203560@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 22:29:09 GMT

petervh@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Ok great, thanks guys. I only paid $5 for this machine, so I don't
> think I'll go to the trouble/expense of repairing the machine. I should
> be able to find one in working condition in town with a bit of
> sleuthing.
> 
> Oh, and DesertBob, I'm hardly a 'kid', I'm 20, but I grew up in the
> casette generation, where reel to reel machines were unheard of.
> Anyway, I make a lot of music using oldish lo-fi instruments and
> devices, and I'd like to do a little bit of simple tape looping to add
> some new flavours to my music (www.myspace.com/petervanhaaften).
> 
> Anyway, thanks to all those who were helpful in this thread,
> 
> - Peter


   Don't throw it out, someone may need parts.  Good tape heads are
becoming a lot harder to find, these days, along with spare motors and
other mechanical parts.


-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 334031 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Lou deGonzague <zenith@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kutztown Roll Call
References: <1147095875.631807.235110@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <rWP7g.12117$TT.334@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 22:49:59 GMT

I plan on being there on Saturday, if the creek don't rise. I guess the 
forecast is rain but it's a few days off and the forecast could be all 
wet. I would like some opinions on bringing down 15 Riders TV manuals, 
starting with vol 1. Do you think they would bring maybe $10 ea? Do 
fixer-uppers sell there? I'll be at booth 342, stop by and and say Hi. 
How big are the tables, 6 or 8 feet?

Mike Koste wrote:
> Who's coming and where are you traveling from? Stop by and say hello,
> and don't forget to bring your odd knobs to see if I can match them up.
> 
> Mike Koste
> Gobs of Knobs
> Ambler, PA
> 
> Booths 331-333
> 


Article: 334032 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Gene" <gthompsonAT@northstarneuroDOT.com>
Subject: Re: eBay feedback meaningless
Date: 08 May 2006 19:23:35 EDT
Message-ID: <e3ojtn$87e@dispatch.concentric.net>
References: <e3ghm9$kpq@dispatch.concentric.net>

"Gene" <gthompsonAT@northstarneuroDOT.com> wrote in message
news:e3ghm9$kpq@dispatch.concentric.net...
> Hi, All.
>             This may be old news to many of you, but it
> was a revelation for me. eBay allows users to create
> as many aliases as they want. There is no obvious connection
> between aliases and they don't share feedback. The upshot of this is:
>
> 1. You cannot know who you are dealing with.
>
> 2. You cannot know the true history of anyone.
>
> 3. You cannot leave meaningful feedback, as the alias will simply be
> abandoned
> and another created if any unfavorable feedback arrives.
>
> I have been aware of eBay's history of protecting problem sellers, but
> this is a wrinkle I didn't know about.
>
> Buyer beware!
>                                              -G
>
>
Thanks, everyone for your comments.
My original post was not meant to be a troll, I was just stunned that eBay
makes
it impossible to tell the difference between a new user and someone with a
past
to hide. IIRC, years ago eBay prohibited multiple ID's for reasons much like
I outlined above,
although I could be recalling incorrectly. Several people have told me I
should simply exclude
anyone with a low feedback score, but that would be about half of my
customers, almost all of
which have been a pleasure to do business with. I have never excluded anyone
>from my auctions
for low score alone, nor refused to buy from them, and I have no plans to
start. We were all
new once! I wish that I had been aware of this policy of eBay's sooner, and
though I may
be the only clueless one, my posting here was meant to save anyone like me
>from the
unpleasant experience I had.
                                                -G




Article: 334033 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <445FD73F.1EAD3F8F@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: How to use an old RCA reel to reel deck?
References: <1147119777.766181.203560@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 23:43:06 GMT

petervh@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Just got some advice from a musician friend of mine on how he does his
> tapelooping. In case anyone else is interested, the guy uses two tape
> decks to do it, and it dosent matter if the second one has functioning
> motors as long as the playheads function properly....
> 
> " try the following: put both reels on your fully functional (spinning)
> taperecorder (I assume you have one). Then put the defect taperecorder
> on the right side of it, and rout the tape through it's play head
> (using the conventional pathway as much as possible, make sure there is
> good contact with the playhead. So the tape goes from the left reel of
> your functional taperecorder throught that taperecorders erase- record-
> and playheads then trhough the partially defect taperecorder and then
> back to the right reel on the fully functional recorder.
> Put the non-spinning taperecoerder on pause and put the working one on
> record+play. Now all you need is a couple of cables and your looping
> devise s functional (assuming all the heads are proper). "
> 
> This should save another reel to reel from the garbage heap...
> 
> - Peter


   I have the service data if you need it, or at least on the mechanical
parts.


-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 334034 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: someone needs to have their eyes checked
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 16:49:43 -0700
Message-ID: <8qlv525082j3l966cd2lv13i1sldqsr0b0@4ax.com>
References: <-_adna9OOpMo3MfZRVn-vg@comcast.com>   <1146826590.413661.46410@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <1146831006.628741.201590@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <1146912777.737487.317160@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   <l5GdnYDEYP0LRMHZRVn-qQ@giganews.com> <1147088069.059992.146550@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <CvadnYjPZYPLIsLZRVn-og@giganews.com>

On Mon, 8 May 2006 18:00:54 -0400, "Ken Doyle"
<kensoldradiorepair@yahoo.com> wrote:


>> The Fisher is sold- $475- live with it. <snip>

Most likely a lie.

>>  The SE Akai rig I have sounds
>> better. <snip>

Another lie, or too stupid to know any better.

>>  The Fisher was bought to fix up and compare. <snip>

Another lie.  He bought it because he was cruising eBay listings for
500Cs, saw a chance to make a huge lump of profit in one scam, and
went for it, only to find it was trashed.

>> If it performed
>> better than the Akai SE, it would have replaced the Akai SE. <snip>

An iidiot sitting in his hovel, using an old Jap tape deck as a power
amp...now, THAT'S nuts!  WTF do you think a pair of 6BQ5s (sorry,
Noodles, they're not "68Q5s", like you called them for months) can
produce??  In P-P, a pair of 6BQ5s can muster maybe 12 watts, tops,
unless the plates are running absolutely at maximum rated B+ and the
tube is agressively biased.  In single-ended/parallel, MAYBE 8, and
that'd be pushing it  Just what kind of realistic sound pressure
levels can anyone expect to attain with 8 WPC?  Answer:  NONE.

>> But that
>> didn't happen.  I have dozens of stereo components here. <snip>

All fodder for the NudoFraud® Industries/66fourdoor scam machine, no
doubt.

>   I can't keep
>> every one I test- <snip>

You can't test anything, you don't know HOW to test anything and
you're a complete nincompoop.  You only recently got a handheld DVM
because you had to fix that friggin' Fisher, and the guy at your local
store sold you a cheapie cap checker.  Some tech!

>> I'd need a storage shed the size of Madison Square
>> Garden to do so.  Get a reality check !
>
>Reality check about what?  Are you telling me to f*** off again? <snip>

Charlie Nudo's the one who needs psychiatric treatment, as five years
of his posts, about 350 of which he tried to delete, easily show.  The
guy is not only nuts, but criminally inclined, as well.


Article: 334035 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Origin of BEEHIVE term?
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 16:51:15 -0700
Message-ID: <v9mv521jj8ar3kamlrjs24k2pa09vmm1s0@4ax.com>
References: <5gH7g.7$227.6@fe04.lga> <1147099708.681855.195710@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <29dv52hist4i95s9reqbkfng3u6rm936ev@4ax.com>

On Mon, 08 May 2006 17:19:40 -0400, Alan Douglas <adouglasatgis.net>
wrote:

>Hi,
>   I doubt if the "beehive" term was used before the 1950s or 60s. For
>that matter "cathedral" is relatively new too.  In the 30s they were
>"midget" or "mantel" radios. <snip>

Grandpa called his "table" radios in the '30s.  His favorite of all
time?  An Atwater-Kent.


Article: 334036 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: How to use an old RCA reel to reel deck?
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 16:54:02 -0700
Message-ID: <vcmv521thsn6ngtrc7rujvg0is6d34laja@4ax.com>
References: <1147119777.766181.203560@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <445FAE24.A88A9A2@earthlink.net> <1147122760.352252.181960@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <445FBDC3.68B7EACD@earthlink.net> <1147125870.484052.113080@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>

On 8 May 2006 15:04:30 -0700, petervh@gmail.com wrote:

>Oh, and DesertBob, I'm hardly a 'kid', I'm 20 <snip>

In here, that's a KID!

>but I grew up in the
>casette generation, where reel to reel machines were unheard of. <snip>

Not so.  RTR was a high end component in home machine all through the
early '80s...ReVoxes, higher end Technics and Teacs abounded.  By that
time, 10½" reels were becoming common in consumer machines, and a few
even could do 15 IPS.  CD got rid of them almost overnight.


Article: 334037 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "jim menning" <jmenningSPAM@new.rr.com>
References: <44594387$0$6153$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> <GUb6g.930264$x96.885431@attbi_s72> <36c6g.37$WP5.3@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <jTO7g.963650$xm3.319988@attbi_s21>
Subject: Re: Kokomo Indiana Radio PICTURES
Message-ID: <GTQ7g.11606$EC.10969@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 23:55:18 GMT


"John Goller, k9uwa" <k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF> wrote in message 
news:jTO7g.963650$xm3.319988@attbi_s21...
> In article <36c6g.37$WP5.3@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>, jmenningSPAM@new.rr.com
> says...
>>
>>
>
> Excellent time had by us and all that attended the Kokomo, IN radio
> meet this weekend!..
>
> Kokomo Pictures
>
> Click this up to see the pictures..
>
> http://johnjeanantiqueradio.com/Kokomo.htm
>
> I was a good boy... only bought one Console a Zenith 10s470
> Jean was ... well almost happy with me!
>
> John k9uwa
>

Thanks for sharing John.

Did you get the Zenith from Karl Johnson?  I saw he had one recently at another meet, 
and I see him sitting in one of your pictures.

jim menning 




Article: 334038 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: How to use an old RCA reel to reel deck?
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 16:55:43 -0700
Message-ID: <7hmv52t8o9ltciuskhe4f7ksc01vkp4b2k@4ax.com>
References: <1147119777.766181.203560@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <445FAE24.A88A9A2@earthlink.net> <1147122760.352252.181960@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <445FBDC3.68B7EACD@earthlink.net> <1147125870.484052.113080@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <445FC5EC.67CD5C24@earthlink.net>

On Mon, 08 May 2006 22:29:09 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

>   Don't throw it out, someone may need parts.  Good tape heads are
>becoming a lot harder to find, these days, along with spare motors and
>other mechanical parts. <snip>

The clutches on those were a bugger, as they were on V-Ms and other
low quality home machines.  I had heard of using synthetic felt as a
clutch material on these (similar to that used in a lot of single
motored cassette decks,) but I never bothered rebuilding one.  If one
could fix the clutch, this might be a so-so- collectable for the RTR
fan.


Article: 334039 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: How to use an old RCA reel to reel deck?
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 16:56:52 -0700
Message-ID: <almv521gqr46d7516de9f6uv15t4nsan6j@4ax.com>
References: <1147119777.766181.203560@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <445FAE24.A88A9A2@earthlink.net> <1147122760.352252.181960@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <445FBDC3.68B7EACD@earthlink.net> <1147125870.484052.113080@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <445FC5EC.67CD5C24@earthlink.net> <1147129295.512086.18070@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>

On 8 May 2006 16:01:35 -0700, petervh@gmail.com wrote:

>" try the following: put both reels on your fully functional (spinning)
>taperecorder (I assume you have one). Then put the defect taperecorder
>on the right side of it, and rout the tape through it's play head
>(using the conventional pathway as much as possible, make sure there is
>good contact with the playhead. So the tape goes from the left reel of
>your functional taperecorder throught that taperecorders erase- record-
>and playheads then trhough the partially defect taperecorder and then
>back to the right reel on the fully functional recorder.
>Put the non-spinning taperecoerder on pause and put the working one on
>record+play. Now all you need is a couple of cables and your looping
>devise s functional (assuming all the heads are proper). " <snip>

So, it's not a tape recorder at all, but a "noise source."  Hmmmm...


Article: 334040 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Brian McAllister <Sunset@Blandings.com.invalid>
Subject: Re: Origin of BEEHIVE term?
Message-ID: <cmnv52dl6oeti5st4npbf6rthaqk0b4ha7@4ax.com>
References: <5gH7g.7$227.6@fe04.lga> <1147099708.681855.195710@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <29dv52hist4i95s9reqbkfng3u6rm936ev@4ax.com>
Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 00:17:16 GMT

On Mon, 08 May 2006 17:19:40 -0400, Alan Douglas <adouglasatgis.net>
wrote:

>Hi,
>   I doubt if the "beehive" term was used before the 1950s or 60s. For
>that matter "cathedral" is relatively new too.  In the 30s they were
>"midget" or "mantel" radios.

I am very skep-tical of that term. ;-)
Brian McAllister

Sarasota, Florida

email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die


Article: 334041 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Kokomo Indiana Radio PICTURES
From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa)
References: <44594387$0$6153$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> <GUb6g.930264$x96.885431@attbi_s72> <36c6g.37$WP5.3@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <jTO7g.963650$xm3.319988@attbi_s21> <GTQ7g.11606$EC.10969@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <UjR7g.140328$oL.70766@attbi_s71>
Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 00:25:24 GMT

In article <GTQ7g.11606$EC.10969@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>, 
jmenningSPAM@new.rr.com says...
>
>
>Did you get the Zenith from Karl Johnson?  I saw he had one recently at 
another meet, 
>and I see him sitting in one of your pictures.
>
>jim menning 
>
>
Hi Jim .... yup I usually pick up at least one from Karl at the meets..
this time it was the 10s470 he had.. Karl and Pete ... a true team!

John



Article: 334042 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: push pull vs. single ended- opinions ?
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:24:38 +0900
Message-ID: <e3oqsu$eef$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <1146842828.653361.213950@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <T367g.7631$An2.3238@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1147047964.067315.113080@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <p3bt525l5r8odjoqa7m144h7h8sqb2b9qb@4ax.com> <e3n468$t2e$1@news2.kornet.net> <e3n4a0$t3e$1@news2.kornet.net> <1147088976.955519.302970@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1147090329.964425.117680@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8qpu529a9rrhkqof0ugdm84ackupnt2ifo@4ax.com> <jbyrns-0805062014060001@216-80-74-203.d.enteract.com>


"John Byrns" <jbyrns@rcn.com> wrote in message 
news:jbyrns-0805062014060001@216-80-74-203.d.enteract.com...
> In article <8qpu529a9rrhkqof0ugdm84ackupnt2ifo@4ax.com>,
> desertb@rglobal.net wrote:
>
>> On 8 May 2006 05:12:10 -0700, "CAINE" <bb69@epix.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Speakers- 1986 Technics- efficiency rating 93db/w/m printed right on
>> >the front
>> >
>> >15" woofer
>> >3" mid
>> >1.5" tweeter <snip>
>>
>> And, of course, Jap speakers SUCK.  And, at 5 watts, he'll get an
>> ASTOUNDING  105 dB/w/m with the amps at clipping!
>
> Bob, you are suffering a serious case of brain fade, but then that is not
> surprising, check your math and units.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> John Byrns

By my math, he's a bit high. Figuring 3dB per doubling of the power, I get 
96dB/m at 2 watts, 99dB/m at 4 watts. So at 5 watts, it would be ~100dB/m.. 
would need 16 watts to get 105dB/m.





Article: 334043 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com>
References: <1147095875.631807.235110@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Kutztown Roll Call
Message-ID: <WiS7g.24423$ZQ3.5336@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 01:32:38 GMT

Ill get there mid afternoon or so Friday, have to put in a half day of work 
before driving down!
Im with Al Anderson and his tables are in the middle about a third of the 
way down.  Im hoping to make it through the auction too...

I AM bringing the Majestic 90 Lowboy, I cant really see having THREE Of them 
and at $20 Im sure it will go, and if not it will go in the auction.  Happy 
to trade it for ??? console if anyone is interested.

Yea.... it looks like alot of rain, but since the Hurricane the weather 
there has been better than forcast and it WONT be another tropical storm. 
The pavilion idea is stellar!

Keith

"Mike Koste" <michael.koste@zurichna.com> wrote in message 
news:1147095875.631807.235110@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Who's coming and where are you traveling from? Stop by and say hello,
> and don't forget to bring your odd knobs to see if I can match them up.
>
> Mike Koste
> Gobs of Knobs
> Ambler, PA
>
> Booths 331-333
> 




Article: 334044 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com>
References: <1147137787.383957.224560@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: A Dirty Zenith
Message-ID: <JkS7g.24425$ZQ3.9869@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 01:34:33 GMT

I have a 6 G 601 D that is very similar,  Im bringing it to Kutztown to sell 
CHEAP.
Its missing the front cover though.

Keith


"RadioGary" <n9vu@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1147137787.383957.224560@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> No, the radio doesn't play pornographic shows.   Here it is.
>
> http://radioatticarchives.com/images/z/Zenith_6-G-610M_(1941)_Fullmer.jpg
>
> This is not it, but one just like it I picked up at a Ham Radio flea
> market.   Going to need the usual inside revamping, but the case is
> dirty.  No bumps and bruises, at least none that I can see, just dirty.
> The question is how can this be cleaned safely and maybe be brought
> back to it's original luster as best as possible?
>
> Thanks to Radio Attic archives, and thanks to all for your help.
>
> GB
> 




Article: 334045 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: robert casey <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: push pull vs. single ended- opinions ?
References: <1146842828.653361.213950@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <T367g.7631$An2.3238@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1147047964.067315.113080@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <p3bt525l5r8odjoqa7m144h7h8sqb2b9qb@4ax.com> <e3n468$t2e$1@news2.kornet.net> <1147089303.737016.6680@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1kqu52lnr69o9jju2dh0ho68u00sdk4817@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <MFS7g.329$y4.117@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 01:57:00 GMT


>>P-P has distortion that is not present in SE.  It may have the same
>>amount or even less PERCENTAGE wise, but it has ODD ORDER harmonic
>>distortion, which sounds quite objectionable- and is why you reach for
>>the volume knob to turn it down, when it's too loud and shitty
>>sounding. <snip>
> 
> 
> As usual, he knows nothing of what he speaks.
> 
Not totally clueless, he did get the above quoted part reasonably 
correct.  For the same amount of "yuckness" the 2nd harmonic needs to be 
about 10dB higher than the 3rd harmonic, at least with my ears.  At 
around 35 dB down levels.


Article: 334046 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Origin of BEEHIVE term?
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 19:53:27 -0600
Message-ID: <25525-445FF617-2341@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net>
References: <29dv52hist4i95s9reqbkfng3u6rm936ev@4ax.com>

In the 30s they were "midget" or "mantel" radios. 
Alan

I cant relate a Philco 90 as a ``midget``



Article: 334047 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" <kc4yoy@NOSPAM.carolina.rr.com>
Subject: WANTED, Leutz/General Radio Knob
Message-ID: <KQS7g.17556$P65.8121@southeast.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 02:08:42 GMT

Here again is my semi regular wanted posting for a very special radio knob.

http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html

This type of knob was commonly used on early 20s Leutz super-het kits sold
by the Experimenters Information Service.
The knob is a combination of a large General Radio main knob and a 4 inch
numbered skirt installed at the E.I.S. shop.

I now need only ONE of these knobs to complete a Leutz super-het restoration
project.

I will gladly pay $50 for the correct knob in good condition.

PLEASE check your junk boxes and see if you have any of these knobs laying
around.

Thanks & 73,

Ron

Radio Collection Web Page,
http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com










Article: 334048 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "John Powers" <johnpowers6@earthlink.net>
References: <SZq7g.36157$Fs1.16044@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>   <kels52lhq6mcjf65p5d7ljrij603ovvjna@4ax.com> <1147037072.277300.270870@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <19qdnfSNWZbZDMPZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: KLH Model 8 Restoration Advice Requested
Message-ID: <3SS7g.244$x4.16@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 02:10:07 GMT

Since you mention the radio/multiplexer combos, I'm curious about the 
multiplexer jack on my Fisher 500. I've never seen a multiplexer unit for 
one of these, although I do recall seeing schematics for one at some point. 
Have any of you seen one for a 500? Did it also come with another amp or 
were the MPX and Amp in the same unit?

JP


"William Sommerwerck" <gizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:19qdnfSNWZbZDMPZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> A very nice radio indeed and well worth using it as an everyday radio.
>> I use mine with its model 18 multiplexer for stereo operation.
>> Performance is simply outstanding. Thanks again for the multiplexer,
>> William.
>
> You're welcome. Glad you like it!
>
> Although the Model 8 cum Model 13 was not unique -- other companies 
> produced
> table-top FM radio/multiplexer adapter combos (there's a Web page showing
> some of them) -- but it was the best of the lot.
>
> 




Article: 334049 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Who bends sheet-metal?
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 20:16:59 -0600
Message-ID: <25525-445FFB9B-2345@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1147121320.969916.70840@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

I have one of those Harbor Freight 8`` mini breaks but never messed with
it . I dont even know fully how to use it . The handle is missing . it
was 10$ and it weighs 50 pounds 



Article: 334050 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: push pull vs. single ended- opinions ?
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:38:59 +0900
Message-ID: <e3ov8b$fb6$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <1146842828.653361.213950@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>   <T367g.7631$An2.3238@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>   <1147047964.067315.113080@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   <p3bt525l5r8odjoqa7m144h7h8sqb2b9qb@4ax.com>   <e3n468$t2e$1@news2.kornet.net>   <1147089303.737016.6680@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>   <1kqu52lnr69o9jju2dh0ho68u00sdk4817@4ax.com>   <MFS7g.329$y4.117@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1147141329.315009.277950@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>


"Steven" <thisjukeboxplays33rpm@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1147141329.315009.277950@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> That isn't my problem. KSRV just changed power/pattern and landed about
> that much different in frequency, such that I had to do a major retune
> of the analog JVC that I never touched. I'm going to talk to the new
> engineer about what it is they do with only two towers that could
> bother a listener only 1/2 a mile south of a 5 kw station. I listen a
> lot and that mattered.
>

You'd be surprised what they can do with phasing and two towers. There are 
stations in Portland that can put such a strong null in one direction that 
you can't hear them at night there in town.




Article: 334051 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: I got a new radio
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 20:32:32 -0600
Message-ID: <25526-445FFF40-637@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1147120327.997645.88750@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

This group is for old radios 



Article: 334052 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Nelson Gietz" <ngietz@mts.net>
Subject: Isolation transformer
Message-ID: <HGT7g.62726$aD6.34931@newsfe18.lga>
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 22:07:59 -0500

        All the recent talk about isolation transformers prompted me to
haul out the 1000VA unit I have here, and an old PA amp
chassis and cover to mount it on.  (It has exposed top terminals
for both windings.)  It also will nicely accomadate a 40W series load
lamp.
    I also dug out a nice 3A full scale DC ammeter, and plan to use
it with a solid state bridge rectifier to monitor the current draw.
    If I understand the math correctly, any readings would have to be
multiplied by 1.41 to get the real current measurement.  Is that correct?
    Question is... is there any way to get the ammeter to give
accurate readings?  Would a cap across its DC input make any
useful difference?
    Cheers,
    Nelson





Article: 334053 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: A Dirty Zenith
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:49:16 +0900
Message-ID: <e3p3c4$gks$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <1147137787.383957.224560@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <JkS7g.24425$ZQ3.9869@twister.nyroc.rr.com>


"Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com> wrote in message 
news:JkS7g.24425$ZQ3.9869@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>I have a 6 G 601 D that is very similar,  Im bringing it to Kutztown to 
>sell CHEAP.
> Its missing the front cover though.
>
> Keith
>

How cheap is cheap? I can't come to Kutztown (don't I WISH)... but maybe 
some deal can be struck.





Article: 334054 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Bob in Phx" <rbelisle1@cox.net>
References: <1146973898.894683.60420@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <20607-445E1D52-1900@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net>
Subject: Re: The posessed radio, final outcome
Message-ID: <0yy7g.16492$XV5.1674@fed1read10>
Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 20:03:23 -0700

or an em pinball machine, or any slot machine!!!!!!!!!!!!

bob in phx
"Ken G." <goodguyy@webtv.net> wrote in message 
news:20607-445E1D52-1900@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net...
> Glad you got it .... Try restoring a jukebox , talk about multiple
> problems .
> 




Article: 334055 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: push pull vs. single ended- opinions ?
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 23:15:13 -0700
Message-ID: <1mc062pmgnhm7p9agfcqoo4p6t4p009d3o@4ax.com>
References: <T367g.7631$An2.3238@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1147047964.067315.113080@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <p3bt525l5r8odjoqa7m144h7h8sqb2b9qb@4ax.com> <e3n468$t2e$1@news2.kornet.net> <e3n4a0$t3e$1@news2.kornet.net> <1147088976.955519.302970@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1147090329.964425.117680@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8qpu529a9rrhkqof0ugdm84ackupnt2ifo@4ax.com> <jbyrns-0805062014060001@216-80-74-203.d.enteract.com> <e3oqsu$eef$1@news2.kornet.net>

On Tue, 9 May 2006 10:24:38 +0900, "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
wrote:

>By my math, he's a bit high. Figuring 3dB per doubling of the power, I get 
>96dB/m at 2 watts, 99dB/m at 4 watts. So at 5 watts, it would be ~100dB/m.. 
>would need 16 watts to get 105dB/m. <snip>

Reread my earlier post about the expected output of those little ratty
tape recorder power amps...8 WPC.  At 8 watts, each speaker, assuming
93dBA/W/m should yield exactly what I said.  Why I typed 5, I have no
clue, and it is, indeed, in error.  Sorry about that!


Article: 334056 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: KLH Model 8 Restoration Advice Requested
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 23:16:59 -0700
Message-ID: <asc0621or86ffe0u6jeg0tq8a6edbuh6mr@4ax.com>
References: <SZq7g.36157$Fs1.16044@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>   <kels52lhq6mcjf65p5d7ljrij603ovvjna@4ax.com> <1147037072.277300.270870@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <19qdnfSNWZbZDMPZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <b4uu52htbbsfdghm63ecal03hqr7tte04u@4ax.com> <8vCdnbI3_LmeRMLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com> <jbyrns-0805062016580001@216-80-74-203.d.enteract.com>

On Mon, 08 May 2006 20:16:57 -0500, jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) wrote:

>It's been a while since I thought much about speakers, but don't you let
>the woofer Q go a bit -higher- than it should , for some of the thump rock
>listeners like? <snip>

I would think that Fs would be the parameter to watch to zero in on
that.  Many of these systems had their ports tuned purposely above Fs
to get that "humpy" mid-bass while still at least being able to extend
output below free air Fs.


Article: 334057 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Please pardon the intrusion/ we seem to have a similar infection
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 23:27:40 -0700
Message-ID: <i6d062dkbsm12hid29de9rl4j6o53t4k1s@4ax.com>
References: <-_adna9OOpMo3MfZRVn-vg@comcast.com> <1147099927.650482.131010@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <91ev52p6kn60ohcr1eff8bq5885c5b304k@4ax.com> <1147149345.497627.298470@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 8 May 2006 21:35:45 -0700, BellinghamCPA@gmail.com wrote:

>DesertTBob/Charlie Nudos is annoying us NFL junkies as well, by, of all
>things, posting Ebay links to silly postcard auctions in a football
>discussion newsgroup. <snip>

Let's get one thing clear right now.  I am DeserTBoB.  Charlie Nudo is
a bunch of other things.  I am not Charlie Nudo, nor do I have any way
to access any epix.net server.  He has, on several ocassions, usurped
my user name, usually as DeserTBob Jr, or DeserTBoB.  One of his "goo
goo" spam accounts was shut down because of it.
>
>And, of course, you folks are correct.  DesertT/Noodles is a liar.  I
>clicked "DesertTBob"'s link for his silly auction which is here- 
>
>http://tinyurl.com/qtjsk <snip>

Yes, that's a Charlie Nudo auction.  In your particular newsgroup, he
was probably using my name as a spoof, but as "DeserTBob Jr," thinking
he's posing as me.  Please recheck the posts.  Mine will either show
up as "DeserTBoB" as the user name, or desertbob93535@yahoo.com at
times on "goo goo groopz" if I'm chasing him around to post spam or
fraud warnings on him.  I sometimes post into "goo goo groopz"
directly as an expedient to posting rat-out posts against Nudo.  In
either event, the NNTP host will always point to blocks from my ISP,
not epix.net, which all of Charlie Nudo's come from.  Some people in
here do not seem to get that fact.

>and then sent a note to the seller, "Charlie Nudos", which ebay
>confirmed by copying this to me:
>
>To: thenudofamily@epix.net
>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 2:14 PM
>Subject: Question for item #6277369233 - 44 FLORIDA
>POSTCARDS-1929-1965-TOWNVIEWS-FREE
>SHIPPING-
>
>                          eBay sent this message to Charlie Nudo
>(66fourdoor).
>                          Your registered name is included to show this
>message
>originated from eBay. Learn more.
>
>...and now, I've been receiving email from DesertTBoB/Charlie via his
>"nudofamily" addy until I blocked him as sender. <snip>

You haven't blocked me, since I'm not Charlie Nudo.
>
>I may check back here at some point-  haven't thought about tubes since
>I built my ST-70 eons ago, and STILL miss it's sweetness. <snip>

One of Dave Hafler's "perfect" amps...best sound for the bucks, bar
none.


Article: 334058 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: push pull vs. single ended- opinions ?
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 23:32:49 -0700
Message-ID: <4kd0625bgv77bt8c34ovtq7qif6oqvlecq@4ax.com>
References: <1146842828.653361.213950@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <T367g.7631$An2.3238@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1147047964.067315.113080@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>