Article: 335197 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 07:10:19 -0700
Message-ID: <kt8r72t4ibch9r1277453g3ium8a6am75t@4ax.com>
References: <1149024077.251495.188280@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <16028-447D2914-817@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> <e5dq72d9eab0l7r6ai2e51nijvm8mpctpm@4ax.com> <1149078713.720486.113970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1149079572.562367.300910@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1149080053.923469.84680@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 31 May 2006 05:54:13 -0700, "Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote:

>Might do you some good....
>
>I refer you to Ecclesiastes 10, with special reference to Verse 18. No
>judgement rendered, but from this distance, it sure seems to apply. <snip>

More religious claptrap.  No wonder you're on AOHell!


Article: 335198 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 07:09:46 -0700
Message-ID: <sk8r729vkfo6nhk1pircrq88kjh91638hc@4ax.com>
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On 31 May 2006 05:31:53 -0700, "Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote:

>Actually, the only "Thing" aiding and abetting this so-called dumping
>(the Chinese balance-of-payments suggests otherwise, surely) is the
>American Public, AKA the "great unwashed". <snip>

True enough.

>You go on about Corporate
>America... which, in fact is doing only and exactly what is expected of
>it... providing you with Chinese coffee-makers and extracting
>everything it can from its workers as a matter of simple survival. <snip>

Don't try to reflect this maelstrom of political and economic sludge
on me, buster...I can't even BUY anything US made anymore without a
lot of searching around!  Korporate Amerika killed off our domestic
manufacturing, and with it, the middle class.

>But don't blame Globalization or Corporate Anything for what you (in
>general) <snip>

Quit generalizing that "I" want this garbage.  I don't.  This trash is
for people like Nudo...with mercury poisoned brains!

>And don't try to 'opt out' of that blame
>either... you are the one bragging about your Chinese Coffeemaker,
>after all. <snip>

I didn't buy it...my clueless wife did.  I wanted a Bunn.  Once the
damage was done, however, it was done, so I made do.

> All that crap is just about avoidance... it is sure handy to
>blame others so as not to have to own any of it yourself....  I refer
>you to Matthew 7, in its entirety, but with special reference to Verses
>3-5.  <snip>

Religious claptrap is just that....religious claptrap.  It's for
people like you and Noodles.

Back into your cage!


Article: 335199 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Paul Dietenberger" <pdieten@NyOaShPoAoM.com>
References: <y_KdnZgZX_nqOuXZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@sigecom.net> <uWieg.1183$ho6.32@trnddc07> <CISdneOzY9KmMODZ4p2dnA@sigecom.net>
Subject: Re: Hooking a CD player to an old radio line input
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 10:32:14 -0500
Message-ID: <447da990$0$26746$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>

"Bruce Mercer" <maxbud12@XXXsigecom.net> wrote in message 
news:CISdneOzY9KmMODZ4p2dnA@sigecom.net...
> I have a transmitter. I still would like to be able to hook a CD to a 
> radio with a line in for various
> reasons, thus the question.

Well, Bruce, like most folks I just install a jack with the signal connected 
to the top of the volume control (input from the detector stage) and ground 
to the radio's B-. If the device is battery powered and the output is a 
headphone jack, the signal level will be pretty low and you'll have to turn 
it up all the way or use a pre-amp. An AC powered CD player with line-out 
jacks will not present you with this particular problem as the signal level 
should be high enough.

You may want to install a switch to cut off the connection from the detector 
output to the volume control when you want to listen to the CD. And if the 
original source is stereo you'll want one of those two-input-to-one-output Y 
connectors. And finally, if you feel you want a coupling cap between the 
input jack and the volume control you can use something on the order of 
.02uF. 



-- 
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com



Article: 335200 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Small uF value Capacitors for Brunswick 15 Radio
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 08:38:57 -0700
Message-ID: <10964-447DB891-176@storefull-3116.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1149088629.028729.269470@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

Radio Daze and Antique Electronic Supply both sell film caps in those
values at 630 volts. That would be what I would use to recap that set.



Article: 335201 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 08:57:08 -0700
Message-ID: <00fr72l2cm3ugdov1iqtvnn2oalmo9pbth@4ax.com>
References: <e577cd$olh$1@reader1.panix.com> <1148665951.755079.63870@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <e57i25$bvh$3@reader1.panix.com> <1148671230.532512.227120@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <e57o5l$dmn$1@reader1.panix.com> <kmjf721prrbatgqpv721g9p32i0vda4it2@4ax.com> <lJ1eg.2295$Oh1.1679@news01.roc.ny> <prgh72dqp6habpsd09nle30th7qrmng5rp@4ax.com> <jbyrns-2805061050180001@216-80-74-228.d.enteract.com> <e5i8np0scg@news1.newsguy.com> <1149087824.069167.187990@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 31 May 2006 08:03:44 -0700, "Stephanie Weil"
<stephanienyc@gmail.com> wrote:

>That's interesting because our much-vaunted Time Warner digital cable
>system compresses the HELL out of most of the channels.  Even the "on
>demand" Pay-per-view stuff.<snip>

Yes...it's pretty much a ripoff.  The compression makes the resolution
just slightly worse than a VHS-HQ home machine, but people don't see
the noise, so they think it's "digital clarity."  It's the biggest
ripoff in TV history.

>You watch these things and you can notice the pixillation, like you're
>watching something that was downloaded from a bit-torrent and then
>burned on Video CD.  And if I can see this on a "blurry" analog TV set,
>imagine what it would look like on a "clean" digital set? <snip>

Even on a "clean" NTSC set with comb filters and good CRT, it's
annoying and just plain bad.

>I tried one of the freebie on-demand channels -- the "Anime Network" --
>and I couldn't watch anything.  About 30 seconds into the cartoon, the
>damned signal stuttered to a halt and broke up into little boxes.
>
>Tried another one of those channels - "National Geographic on Demand"
>-- and the same thing.
>
>Can you imagine the people "renting" pay-per-view movies and having to
>put up with this? <snip>

They will, because they don't know any better.  The US has become a
nation of sheep, ripe for the shearing at will by korporate nabobs
with ever fatter wallets.  Just take a look at the compensation some
of these idiots get, and you start to get mad.  Look further how Wall
St. diefies some of these flam-flam schlock artists like "Neutron
Jack" Welch, and you get madder.


Article: 335202 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "jim menning" <jmenningSPAM@new.rr.com>
References: <1149095641.206332.13960@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for a 78RPM
Message-ID: <Zhkfg.19822$8T4.7636@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 17:23:05 GMT


<eqlipse@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1149095641.206332.13960@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> I am interested on buying a 78RPM from Rex Records, recorded in 1935,
> Vera Lynn and the Casani Club Orchestra, singing "I'm in the mood for
> love". Please, may you help me?
>
> Kind regards in advance,
>
> Eqlipse.
>

Do you need the original on 78, or are you just looking for that particular 
rendition?

If you are only looking for the performance, it's available on this CD:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4876014158

jim menning





Article: 335203 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Steve Stone" <zzspfleck@citlink.netzz>
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Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
Message-ID: <OImfg.2492$oa1.1615@news02.roc.ny>
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:08:14 GMT


> Then: A vehicle for driving is with great specificity not an
> "investment", except as it protects you and your family. There is no
> reason on earth to buy a 'new' car as compared to a decent, well-kept
> used car except for technology.

Not true for used Lincolns. Trust me. 




Article: 335204 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 15:57:11 -0500
Message-ID: <16029-447E0327-205@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1149096310.867782.319360@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

When Chrysler merged with Daimler,I told people Chrysler messed up.Click
on    www.autoblog.com    and scroll on down and click on Daimler
Chrysler (64) and scroll on down and check out that billboard in
Johnnesburg,Africa and on the billboard is a picture of some sort of
little tooty pooty Daimler Chrysler (or whatever it is) car.To the right
of the picture of the car,it says,
German Engineering                            Swiss Innovation
American Nothing.

No way on Earth would I ever buy a Daimler Chrysler anything!
I went over to my old buddys home this morning to let him give me my
free haircut.(but he won't let me cut his hair) On the way back home,I
saw a nice looking 1950 Ford car for sale at Craft's Used Car lot on
Highway 80.In the 1970's I used to own a 1950 Ford car just like that
one I saw today.Just for the heck of it,I might phone the used car lot
and ask them how much do they want for that car.

By way,if you want a real SUV,look around and find an old Army Duce and
a half truck.I used to drive one in Vietnam in 1964.With a full load and
in low low range and in all wheel drive,those trucks can go anywhere.
cuhulin
 



Article: 335205 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Hagstar" <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Re: Keepers
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 17:04:55 -0400
Message-ID: <127s1b65r9jhie5@corp.supernews.com>
References: <1149003373.274035.257890@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <CridnQuiEsRZYOHZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com> <e5iunb$nkm$1@news2.kornet.net> <8uSdnW9SbNsAfuDZnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@giganews.com>


"Phil Nelson" <philnelson@nospam.xyz> wrote in message 
news:8uSdnW9SbNsAfuDZnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
  Why is it so much easier and faster to take things apart than
> to put them back together?

But of course-  it's Entropy. The act of living equals greatly increasing 
GENERAL disorder to create pockets of order i.e. us and all we do. Kinda 
like a refrigerator that runs on burning propane, I reckon.

The more unfinished projects you have, the longer you will live. "I can't 
die, I have to finish these radios". This seems to be the general consensus 
among collectors I've met.

John H. 




Article: 335206 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Hagstar" <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Re: Dual 6L6 Output in a Table Set
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 17:11:19 -0400
Message-ID: <127s1jr9f8qeo86@corp.supernews.com>
References: <127pmotnmtl8bb6@corp.supernews.com>   <1149035750.597215.171390@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1149075653.686103.227750@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>


 Rant well understood- and true! MY version of this Emerson DS365 came quite 
securely packed, but had been shaken so severely the chassis (mounted on 
ears to side rails inside the cabinet from below) had come loose and bashed 
the speaker loose too. It does weigh 25 lb. I'd bet, and the design is prone 
to shipping damage.

John H. 




Article: 335207 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de>
Subject: Re: My wife's going to kill me when she finds out.
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 23:14:06 +0200
Message-ID: <e5l0uv$2gc$02$1@news.t-online.com>
References: <1148952551.083979.42610@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <Uz3fg.24$Z53.0@fe03.lga>

Brian Hill wrote <good@it.net>


> You can always paint flowers on it or chickens like the ones we see
on Ebay
> from time to time. Women like that kinda stuff :)

Brian,

<good@it.net> is bouncing ... pleas email me: rarp at n78 dot de

> Brian's Radio Universe
> http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm
>

Famous collection!

Kind Regards,
Georg




Article: 335208 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Hagstar" <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Re: Another Seller Who Needs to Look Up the Word "Auction"
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 17:23:05 -0400
Message-ID: <127s29vjktq6497@corp.supernews.com>
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"Eddie Brimer" <eb062559@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:1149034806.595665.159980@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>  .  ain't many deals to be had on the
> good stuff on ebay.
>

One must be cagey, true. But I got this original grill for about half of 
what a repro costs, without it the player might very well have been parted 
out-

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6629827554

And this World's Fair just needs a speaker, these are usually pricey-

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6626536662&rd

John H. 




Article: 335209 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Hooking a CD player to an old radio line input
From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa)
References: <y_KdnZgZX_nqOuXZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@sigecom.net> <uWieg.1183$ho6.32@trnddc07> <CISdneOzY9KmMODZ4p2dnA@sigecom.net> <447da990$0$26746$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <a8OdnZMh-ulemOPZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@sigecom.net>
Message-ID: <1Ynfg.11387$1i1.1663@attbi_s72>
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 21:32:45 GMT

In article <a8OdnZMh-ulemOPZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@sigecom.net>, 
maxbud12@XXXsigecom.net says...
>
>
>Thanks guys.
>My next question was going to be could I use a boombox CD player and connect 
>the headphones output to the input of the radio in question, acting as sort 
>of a preamp. Thanks for the answers.
>Bruce
>
Just completed similar hookup today on a Zenith 12s568Z chassis ... remove 
wire from detector and put it on the switch.. wire back to top of volume
control and other side to a pair of RCA jacks .. driving it at the moment
for test purposes with an Elcheapo AM/FM/CD player ... the wifes player
>from the garage/shop .. Earphone jack to Radio.. level is more than
adequate.... about 1/3 volume on the CD player seems to set the level
about the same on the radio ...
John k9uwa



Article: 335210 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: How useful is a signal tracer?
From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa)
References: <V8Sdnc9fj7Sz3uvZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@comcast.com> <1149079863.783856.272840@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <6%nfg.11391$1i1.5325@attbi_s72>
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 21:36:02 GMT

In article <1149079863.783856.272840@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, 
mldenison@suscom.net says...
>
>
>About a year ago, I lucked out and got a 147A untouched and
>unassembled.  I had a blast putting it together.  Reminded me of the
>old Heathkit days.  Now I have to learn how to use it.  I bet John does
>too :>)
>
Yup built a few Heathkits in my days.. and a couple other kit items..
John



Article: 335211 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" <kc4yoy@NOSPAM.carolina.rr.com>
References: <1149003373.274035.257890@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1149105491.961278.193070@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Keepers
Message-ID: <58ofg.28484$Lg.3921@tornado.southeast.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 21:45:37 GMT


Eddie Brimer <eb062559@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1149105491.961278.193070@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> AK 44 in a pooley "cellarette" cabinet
>

You found a model 44 for the Pooley cabinet?

I'm still looking for some info in the Pooley bar.

Ron





From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Thu Jun  1 22:53:54 EDT 2006
Article: 335212 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Reply-To: "James Hilins" <oldradio-at-wi.rr.com>
From: "James Hilins" <oldradio@wi.rr.com>
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Subject: Dial Face Close-up Photo Needed
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I need a close up photo of a Coronado Series 7LL dial face, escution, and 
knobs. Something suitable for searching for  replacement parts with.

If you can make a digital scan of the dial face so much the better.

Locating this one has been more of a challenge than I expected.

Thanks Jim 




Article: 335213 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Dan Schwartzman <schwartzman@verizon.net>
Subject: Looking for help with oscillations and whistling in Clinton K-7 1937
Message-ID: <w3pfg.44975$As2.16161@trnddc02>
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 22:49:00 GMT

Hello all- I am an infrequent participant here, but am looking for a 
little help. I am repairing a Clinton K7 table set from 1937 or so, with 
  a transformerless circuit involving 6A7, 6D6, 75, 43, and 25Z5, with a 
ballast tube as well. I have recapped and realigned the set without the 
benefit of the schematic, which was not published in Riders, but it is 
similar to many other sets of the era, and it wasn't too hard to figure 
out the trimmers and such. The set is a two band set, with broadcast and 
SW from 2.2-7.4 mc, and is playing, but the set is whistling like crazy 
between stations, especially on the low end of the broadcast band.  The 
IF is apparently 465 and the set tracks properly, but I can't get rid of 
the oscillations. Adding a true ground to the chassis helps, but not 
totally. I have gone over the circuit and darn near replaced every 
resistor and capacitor, except for a couple of mica caps, and have even 
modified the circuit a little, adding some extra bypass caps, to no 
avail. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Dan Schwartzman, Easton, PA
KB3MXP



Article: 335214 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "David D. Berkowitz" <ddb@berkowitzguitars.com>
Subject: Capehart 410M
Message-ID: <Tkpfg.13072$lN5.126@trnddc04>
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 23:07:31 GMT

Anyone know where I can get parts for a Capehart 410.  I need the radio for 
the case I got.

--db 




Article: 335215 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 15:53:55 -0700
Message-ID: <0h7s729suq3r1vumhsam5m4pl2finr2pi4@4ax.com>
References: <1149096310.867782.319360@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <16029-447E0327-205@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net>

On Wed, 31 May 2006 15:57:11 -0500, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote:

>When Chrysler merged with Daimler,I told people Chrysler messed up.Click
>on    www.autoblog.com    and scroll on down and click on Daimler
>Chrysler (64) and scroll on down and check out that billboard in
>Johnnesburg,Africa and on the billboard is a picture of some sort of
>little tooty pooty Daimler Chrysler (or whatever it is) car.To the right
>of the picture of the car,it says,
>German Engineering                            Swiss Innovation
>American Nothing.
>
>No way on Earth would I ever buy a Daimler Chrysler anything! <snip>

They're the best domestic vehicles currently being produced.

>I went over to my old buddys home this morning to let him give me my
>free haircut.(but he won't let me cut his hair) On the way back home,I
>saw a nice looking 1950 Ford car for sale at Craft's Used Car lot on
>Highway 80.In the 1970's I used to own a 1950 Ford car just like that
>one I saw today.Just for the heck of it,I might phone the used car lot
>and ask them how much do they want for that car. <snip>

14 MPG around town, MAYBE 16 on the road.  Why?

>By way,if you want a real SUV,look around and find an old Army Duce and
>a half truck.I used to drive one in Vietnam in 1964.With a full load and
>in low low range and in all wheel drive,those trucks can go anywhere. <snip>

They also have Continental multi-fuel engines that'll run on vegetable
or peanut oil...a perfect shoo-in for biodiesel, although any diesel
will run nicely on biodiesel.  Mine does!


Article: 335216 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 15:51:32 -0700
Message-ID: <ra7s72tvagitnbalu7io5te6t60cvh9781@4ax.com>
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 15:42:38 -0500, jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) wrote:

>DesertBob doesn't have one of the world's great minds, he both wants the
>corporations, U.S. corporations, to provide the goods he wants at low
>prices, i.e. without ripping off the "citizens", while at the same time he
>also wants them to provide high paying jobs for the "citizens". <snip>

That's how it was before the RayGun "Era of Greed" started, if you'd
care to take a look.  It was also the most profitable and rich era of
this nation's history.  Now, we're heading toward third world
status...quickly...with a few fat cats hogging 75% of the wealth, a
very similar situation we had in the US around 1900.

>What is this "K" ILO "C" all about, I don't follow you at all here, but
>then as you know I am sometimes easily confused? <snip>

You're always confused.  "K" ILO "C"?  Maybe he goes to Knights of
Columbus meetings?

WHO CARES?


Article: 335217 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Hagstar" <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Re: collectors` stories
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 19:13:10 -0400
Message-ID: <127s8o9ne4hhha8@corp.supernews.com>
References: <1148989053.597094.122450@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>


"Darkness Swallows Me" <darkness.swallows.me@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1148989053.597094.122450@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

>   dont have an interaction with the barber and his costumers
>
>

I still have my Barber of Seville costume from last Halloween.

John H. 




Article: 335218 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <447E3380.26C25D7@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Keepers
References: <1149003373.274035.257890@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 00:24:35 GMT

Stephanie Weil wrote:
> 
> Brenda Ann wrote:
> 
> > When you going to do another wholesale clearance, Phil? I'm gonna run out of
> > projects soon.  I've even completed the SX-25, except for the replacement
> > tubes.
> 
> Woman, you have SERIOUSLY got to be kidding me?!!?
> 
> Weren't you complaining to me just the other day about you having no
> space and literally working on top of piled up radios?  :-P
> 
> --
> Steph


   She likes it that way! ;-)


-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 335219 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Ken Scharf <wa2mzeNOTTHIS@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Well of course it doesn't work DUFUS!
Message-ID: <nRqfg.67697$MM6.59823@bignews3.bellsouth.net>
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:50:51 -0400

http://cgi.ebay.com/GE-Tube-Battery-Radio-Vintage-Burgundy-Carry-Case_W0QQitemZ9733389672QQihZ008QQcategoryZ50595QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This guy says he plugged in the radio and it only hums.  Well from the pictures
I think I can say I know why.  Nothing a missing 1R5 wouldn't fix!


Article: 335220 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: robert casey <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
References: <1149024077.251495.188280@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <16028-447D2914-817@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> <e5dq72d9eab0l7r6ai2e51nijvm8mpctpm@4ax.com> <1149078713.720486.113970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <sk8r729vkfo6nhk1pircrq88kjh91638hc@4ax.com> <1149096310.867782.319360@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-3105061542380001@216-80-74-96.d.enteract.com>
Message-ID: <mSqfg.7517$921.3024@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 00:51:30 GMT


> DesertBob doesn't have one of the world's great minds, he both wants the
> corporations, U.S. corporations, to provide the goods he wants at low
> prices, i.e. without ripping off the "citizens", while at the same time he
> also wants them to provide high paying jobs for the "citizens".  He
> doesn't seem to realize that the two are logically incompatible in an
> increasingly competitive world, the combination of the two being
> potentially detrimental to corporate survival.  I am not sure where he
> expects his high paying jobs with U.S. corporations to come from if the
> corporations don't survive.
> 
That's easy, you just make the corporations stop paying the CEOs the 
hundred million dollar salaries.  Many times those bozos screw up their 
companies anyway.


Article: 335221 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 18:01:58 -0700
Message-ID: <oues721pchpgip3h5v647qoc4qjr5cmq8n@4ax.com>
References: <1149024077.251495.188280@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <16028-447D2914-817@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> <e5dq72d9eab0l7r6ai2e51nijvm8mpctpm@4ax.com> <1149078713.720486.113970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <sk8r729vkfo6nhk1pircrq88kjh91638hc@4ax.com> <1149096310.867782.319360@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-3105061542380001@216-80-74-96.d.enteract.com> <mSqfg.7517$921.3024@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>

On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 00:51:30 GMT, robert casey <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

>That's easy, you just make the corporations stop paying the CEOs the 
>hundred million dollar salaries.  Many times those bozos screw up their 
>companies anyway. <snip>

Examples:

Bob Allen, AT&T
Lay & Skilling, Enron (well, at least they got theirs...hopefully)
"Neutron Jack" Welch, GE (a disaster in the making)
Bernie Ebbers, MCI
Roger Smith, GM (who set the stage for the current GM disaster)

...and on and on and on.  All these halfwits had/have multimillion
dollar compensation packages and options worth much more, and all set
courses that eventually led to or is leading to the collapse of their
respective companies.


From adouglasatgis.net Thu Jun  1 22:53:55 EDT 2006
Article: 335222 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Alan Douglas <adouglasatgis.net>
Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Looking for help with oscillations and whistling in Clinton K-7 1937 table set
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Hi,
   Are there any riveted connections making poor contact?  Did you
replace any resonant bypass capacitors with ordinary ones? (pretty
unlikely, but you did ask)

Alan


Article: 335223 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Dan Schwartzman <schwartzman@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Looking for help with oscillations and whistling in Clinton K-7
References: <w3pfg.44975$As2.16161@trnddc02><h6pfg.11434$ho6.3922@trnddc07> <1149116385.854271.52520@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <_Drfg.14042$lN5.11027@trnddc04>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 01:44:26 GMT

AuroraOldRadios wrote:

> Are there tube shields on the converter and IF tubes? If so, are they
> properly grounded? Do all IF windings have good continuity? Has the
> osc. coil been moved? Have you changed the converter tube? Does the
> volume control have proper resistance?
> 
Changed out the AVC cap and no better. Changed the 6A7 tube, no better. 
All shields ok.  The volume control was bridged with a 250k resistor and 
I took this out, maybe a little better, but still whistling. All IF 
windings are good.  I may just live with the whistling, but as the 
repair is for a friend, I hate to send it out less than stellar. Thanks 
for the leads.



Article: 335224 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Dan Schwartzman <schwartzman@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Looking for help with oscillations and whistling in Clinton K-7
References: <w3pfg.44975$As2.16161@trnddc02><h6pfg.11434$ho6.3922@trnddc07> <1149116385.854271.52520@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <e7fs72he8sog0k16p2i9qj4mikq514o8r1@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <5Grfg.14066$lN5.1053@trnddc04>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 01:46:41 GMT

Alan Douglas wrote:

> Hi,
>    Are there any riveted connections making poor contact?  Did you
> replace any resonant bypass capacitors with ordinary ones? (pretty
> unlikely, but you did ask)
> 
> Alan
What do you mean by resonant bypass cap?  I don't know this concept. 
The set had  .01 paper caps, typical, and I tried ceramic discs first at 
.0082 mf then tried film caps at the same rating. No difference.  I will 
   check all the riveted connections next. Thanks.



Article: 335225 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <447E495F.4E3E0D84@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
References: <1149024077.251495.188280@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 01:58:00 GMT

Peter Wieck wrote:
> 
> Bobby-Boy.... My, my, my. You are one ignorant patch of pond-scum, you
> are. In the 60s and early 70s, the US had no real competition at any
> serious level in much of anything. So, during that period, "OUR"
> corporations sold us a bunch of cheaply made, high-priced (as compared
> to wages) crap with no fear. Compare a 70s "Quasar" Televison to
> today's bit of Chinese garbage, and you will actually find _if you look
> with an honest eye_ that the Chinese crapper is a better design using
> fewer parts, less energy, delivers a better picture with better
> resolution, and so forth. Not only that, but when it gets to you via
> Wall Mart, it has come 8000 miles by boat and truck, been handled a
> dozen times... and works right out of the box.  Compare a 1975 Plymouth
> K-Car, Ford Torino, Chevy Impala to a 1975 Benz, Volvo, Saab, VW, even
> a Toyota of the time. What killed American Industry was a combination
> of stick-in-the-mud complacency by Corporate R&D, featherbedding Union
> workers (BTW, in 1982, the average US Steel-Worker made 3.25 hours of
> productivity for 8 hours of pay), and an American Public who
> all-of-a-sudden could get more-for-less by buying off-shore. Some, even
> much of which was (and remains) better made than similar home-built
> products. This was true of Radios (Zenith stopped making radios
> domestically in the 80s, and they were the last), Televisions...
> compare that Sony Trinitron of the 70s to that RCA or that Panasonic to
> that Quasar... and what's worse is that they weren't even cheaper. Just
> better.
> 

   Gee, Peter, I still have the Quasar color TV my dad bought when they
first came out in the late '60s.  It got a new CRT at nine years old,
was hit by lightning three times, and it still works  Show me a Chinese
color TV that makes it 40 years.  Most don't last 4 years.


   As far as Motorola's quality in the '70s, they stopped spending money
on test equipment and training for the production line because sales
were down.  They were still geared to building tube TVs and radios. 
They ignored it till the failure rate for new TVs off the end of the
production line was over 100%. (Multiple failures on some items.)  Like
so many other businesses they were in over the years, they cut and ran
by selling the consumer electronics division to Matsushita, along with
the Quasar name.  The first thing Matsushita did was close the plants to
upgrade them, along with employee training to use the new tools and
methods.  The whole place was modernized and twenty to thirty year old
production and test equipment was all replaced.  It lowered the failure
rate off the production line to under 10%, which translates into lower
failure rates under warranty.

  Since then they have spun off or sold a lot of divisions, to the point
almost nothing new has the Motorola name anymore.  Even their
semiconductor division is chopped to pieces and renamed Freescale. 
There was a long thread on news:sci.electronics .design about it, and
the fact that Freescale required a password to access their website and
the registration script rejected every requested password for a long
list of reasons.


-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 335226 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Dan Schwartzman <schwartzman@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Looking for help with oscillations and whistling in Clinton K-7
References: <w3pfg.44975$As2.16161@trnddc02> <1149127137.638956.218550@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <LWrfg.14246$lN5.12618@trnddc04>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 02:04:27 GMT

pgonshor@aol.com wrote:

> Put a longer antenna wire on it.
> Dave
> 
That did help some, and I have an 80 foot long wire in the attic hooked 
up. I can try my G5RV, but the owner of the set will not have an 
outdoors long wire to use.  Thanks for the suggestion.



Article: 335227 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Looking for help with oscillations and whistling in Clinton K-7
From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa)
References: <w3pfg.44975$As2.16161@trnddc02> <1149127137.638956.218550@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <LWrfg.14246$lN5.12618@trnddc04>
Message-ID: <G7sfg.11378$No1.4000@attbi_s71>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 02:18:14 GMT

In article <LWrfg.14246$lN5.12618@trnddc04>, schwartzman@verizon.net 
says...
>
>

As mentioned by someone else... Tube Shields... on this set it will
go bonkers without them being there are grounded to the chassis.
John k9uwa



Article: 335228 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard)
Subject: Re: Looking for help with oscillations and whistling in Clinton
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 19:19:34 -0700
Message-ID: <10471-447E4EB6-555@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net>
References: <w3pfg.44975$As2.16161@trnddc02>

Dan:
               Try switching off everything in the radio's vicinity
containing a switchmode power supply, like computers etc. Also try the
radio in a different location, away from stray RF noise sources. 
                 Bill(oc)



Article: 335229 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Hagstar" <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Re: Dual 6L6 Output in a Table Set
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 22:54:30 -0400
Message-ID: <127slna2nuf4ea@corp.supernews.com>
References: <127pmotnmtl8bb6@corp.supernews.com> <CdadnSptWY6pzOPZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com>

 As Vincent Price used to say on "Batman"-

:Eggcellent! You'll like it!

John H. 




Article: 335230 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 19:54:20 -0700
Message-ID: <hjls729ggsqre79qikp1u09u1iukjukf29@4ax.com>
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On 31 May 2006 18:28:32 -0700, "Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote:

>Compare a 70s "Quasar" Televison to
>today's bit of Chinese garbage, and you will actually find _if you look
>with an honest eye_ that the Chinese crapper is a better design using
>fewer parts, less energy, delivers a better picture with better
>resolution, and so forth. <snip>

That's not where it's made nor by whom...that's technological
advancement.  BTW, father-in-law's 19" Quasar is still working just
fine, TYVM.

>Compare a 1975 Plymouth
>K-Car <snip>

Chrysler didn't make K-cars in 1975.

As usual, you're just a bag of hot air who loves to see himself in
text.  Prepare to meet your fate in the kill file.

*plonk*


Article: 335231 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 19:55:51 -0700
Message-ID: <6ols72hdi7jqq8p0hgdfulqhbl67li2ffj@4ax.com>
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On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 01:58:00 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

>   Gee, Peter, I still have the Quasar color TV my dad bought when they
>first came out in the late '60s.  It got a new CRT at nine years old,
>was hit by lightning three times, and it still works  Show me a Chinese
>color TV that makes it 40 years.  Most don't last 4 years. <snip>

See?  Again, Peter the Weak blows hot air out his commodious ass.

Enjoy the kill filter, Peter the Weak!  Maybe you can play jerkoff
games with Steven and Skippy!


Article: 335232 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Carter-K8VT <k8vt@ameritech.net>
Subject: (OT) Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco
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Message-ID: <Y_sfg.4844$VE1.3706@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 03:17:12 GMT

Peter Wieck wrote:

> Compare a 70s "Quasar" Televison to today's bit of Chinese garbage,
> and you will actually find _if you look with an honest eye_ that the
> Chinese crapper is a better design using fewer parts, less energy,
> delivers a better picture with better resolution, and so forth.

Peter,

Let me respectfully disagree with your TV example. I'm not sure of the 
point you are trying to make with it (other than demonstrating an 
intuitive grasp of the obvious).

CERTAINLY a 2006 TV set is better, waaaaay better than a 70's set. Less 
parts, less energy, better picture, better resolution? You betcha!

Can you say 'large scale integration undreamed of in the 70s'? Can you 
say 'greatly improved phosphor technology/chemistry'? Can you say 
'digital comb filter technology undreamed of in the 70's'? Lower noise 
front end transistors?

Sure you can!

Bottom line...it would seem that what you are describing (at least with 
your TV example) is due to vast improvements in technology, not 'us vs. 
them'.

Also, FWIW, as the past owner of a brand new 1975 Audi Fox and 1977 
Mercedes 300D, their quality control was nothing to write home about. I 
thought the build quality/reliability of my '63 FI, '70 and '74 Vettes 
was much better (and now that I think about it, my '99 BMW Z-3 had its, 
ahem, "quirks").

Otherwise, I generally agree with most of your other points...



Article: 335233 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 19:59:51 -0700
Message-ID: <pqls72932giad4qhc69dmrg4a9mkh6ais1@4ax.com>
References: <16028-447D2914-817@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> <e5dq72d9eab0l7r6ai2e51nijvm8mpctpm@4ax.com> <1149078713.720486.113970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <sk8r729vkfo6nhk1pircrq88kjh91638hc@4ax.com> <1149096310.867782.319360@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-3105061542380001@216-80-74-96.d.enteract.com> <mSqfg.7517$921.3024@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <oues721pchpgip3h5v647qoc4qjr5cmq8n@4ax.com> <1149125963.616731.133440@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

On 31 May 2006 18:39:23 -0700, "Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote:

>Jack Welch made GE the most successful corporation on earth based on
>growth, profit and stability. They are one of the very last full-line
>Domestic manufacturers of appliances, and one of two (2) still making
>small-appliance (home refrigerators & window AC units) compressors in
>the US. <snip>

They don't "make" ANY of that crap here.  It's all "offshored."

> The second maker (Frigidaire) is threatened. <snip>

Frigidaire is a Swedish property, has been for over a decade.

You'd really do well to read a paper now and then.

Enjoy your kill file seat!

>GE is #1 or #2 in every line it has, from appliances to
>aircraft engines, from turbines to locomotives. <snip>

Ask ANY railroader about GE power...you'll get the same answer every
time...trash.  Welch cornered that market by pricing GM, who had their
heads up their asses, out of the market for the most part.  Now, EMD
only makes traction motors and alternators, along with engine parts,
in La Grange, IL.  All the assembly happens in London, ON.  The crappy
quality control of the products that came from London sealed EMD's
fate, as did the disastrous "H" engine.


Article: 335234 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" <kc4yoy@NOSPAM.carolina.rr.com>
References: <1149003373.274035.257890@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  <1149105491.961278.193070@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>  <58ofg.28484$Lg.3921@tornado.southeast.rr.com> <1149127910.802197.107350@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Keepers
Message-ID: <5jtfg.11677$Qg.631@tornado.southeast.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 03:38:41 GMT


Eddie Brimer <eb062559@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1149127910.802197.107350@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I remembered you saying that an AK bar was
> sold at the Muchow auction.  After a bunch of searching I found this.
>
> http://users3.ev1.net/~wck5/muchow/auct36.jpg


I just posted a scan of a photo I took of the AK Pooley
bar at Dr. Muchow's when I first visited him in 1985.
It's on the binaries NG.
What a tour that was, Ralph spent about 3 hours showing
me everything, it was a thrill. When I got home I just wanted
to toss all my junk out in the backyard. I knew I'd never have
anything like that.

Good luck on finding the missing model 44.

Ron

--

Radio Collection Web Page,
http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com





Article: 335235 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Radio Rambler <jim@jam.com>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 00:06:02 -0400
Message-ID: <4e77dgF1d8aaaU1@individual.net>
References: <1149024077.251495.188280@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <16028-447D2914-817@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> <e5dq72d9eab0l7r6ai2e51nijvm8mpctpm@4ax.com> <1149078713.720486.113970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <sk8r729vkfo6nhk1pircrq88kjh91638hc@4ax.com> <1149096310.867782.319360@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-3105061542380001@216-80-74-96.d.enteract.com> <ra7s72tvagitnbalu7io5te6t60cvh9781@4ax.com> <1149125312.187785.213740@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

Peter Wieck wrote:


> 
> Bobby-Boy.... My, my, my. You are one ignorant patch of pond-scum, you
> are. In the 60s and early 70s, the US had no real competition at any
> serious level in much of anything. So, during that period, "OUR"
> corporations sold us a bunch of cheaply made, high-priced (as compared
> to wages) crap with no fear. Compare a 70s "Quasar" Televison to
> today's bit of Chinese garbage, and you will actually find _if you look
> with an honest eye_ that the Chinese crapper is a better design using
> fewer parts, less energy, delivers a better picture with better
> resolution, and so forth. Not only that, but when it gets to you via
> Wall Mart, it has come 8000 miles by boat and truck, been handled a
> dozen times... and works right out of the box.  Compare a 1975 Plymouth
> K-Car, Ford Torino, Chevy Impala to a 1975 Benz, Volvo, Saab, VW, even
> a Toyota of the time. What killed American Industry was a combination
> of stick-in-the-mud complacency by Corporate R&D, featherbedding Union
> workers (BTW, in 1982, the average US Steel-Worker made 3.25 hours of
> productivity for 8 hours of pay), and an American Public who
> all-of-a-sudden could get more-for-less by buying off-shore. Some, even
> much of which was (and remains) better made than similar home-built
> products. This was true of Radios (Zenith stopped making radios
> domestically in the 80s, and they were the last), Televisions...
> compare that Sony Trinitron of the 70s to that RCA or that Panasonic to
> that Quasar... and what's worse is that they weren't even cheaper. Just
> better.

hey wieck, this is where your ignorance shows.
i was in the home electronics service industry in the late sixties & early
seventies & i can tell you right now that that all of the electronic
equipment that was made in the orient since the late seventies was / is
garbage. this shit from china is even worse. there are NO better
televisions made any more. they are cheap & disposable. what really pisses
me off is when ignorent bastards like you try to force your opinions as
fact.
apparently, you have no idea that this chinese made garbage has forced the
television service industry almost completely out of buisness.
what killed the electronics industry was the government-sanctioned "dumping"
of electronics from the japanese at below market value. this was going on 
throughout the sixties & seventies. our electronics industry couldent 
compete on those terms. zenith radio corporation fought a long legal battle
against the U.S. trade office for years with no relief, yes, our government
under the nixon administration was the beginning to the end of our
electronics industry.

> 
> You need to read some history. And you need to understand some
> home-truths. If the first bits and pieces that came from off-shore
> stayed on the store shelves, that would have been that. But they did
> not. They got snapped up. And so did what followed. And the Japanese
> discovered that with a little bit of attention to detail and a
> near-fanatical attention to quality, they could eat our lunch, get a
> good start on our breakfast and ultimately threaten our dinner. AND WE
> LET IT HAPPEN. Each day we chose to purchase a gas-hog and send more
> than 2/3 of our oil money off-country (just over 25% to Canada and
> Mexico, 20% to the Middle East, 20% to Argentina, Nigeria and similar,
> 5% to Russia/North Sea & just under 30% domestic), we dig a shovel-full
> of our own grave. Every time we felt 'entitled' to a living, we dig
> some more. Every time we bitch about the cost of education and whine
> about school failure and school taxes without getting directly
> involved, we use a D9 High-Wheel and a Track-Hoe to dig even faster and
> harder.
> 
> The world owes me _nothing_ that I do not work for. I am not entitled
> to _anything_ that I have not earned by my own efforts, knowledge and
> skills. It is up to _ONLY_ me to keep my skills and knowledge current
> and relevant so that I may continue to _EARN_ a living by my own
> willing efforts. There is no _free lunch_. There is no _guarantee_ of a
> job anywhere, anytime, any how. The merest expectation of any of this
> is the first step on a deadly, inevitable trail of failure. Do you know
> the definition of "Profit"? It is the difference between what you
> produce is worth and what you are paid. Unless that difference exists,
> you will never have an opportunity to produce _ANYTHING_. Even for
> yourself. Just think about that before you react. If you can (think,
> that is).
> 
> Peter Wieck
> Wyncote, PA


spoken like a true globalist.
as far as i am concerned, you are a traitor.
-- 
The Shadow Knows


Article: 335236 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <447E6E47.19C8FEA9@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
References: <1149024077.251495.188280@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 04:34:16 GMT

Peter Wieck wrote:
> 
> YIKES!!
> 
> "Only" 10%......
> 
> "Only" 10%......
> 
> Consider the implications of that statement.


   I did when I posted it.  Its you who doesn't understand the
"Implications"


> Those years when I worked as a machinist, if I had a 10%
> failure-in-service rate, thousands of people might be _Dead_. There was
> a period of time between ~1975 and ~1980-or-so, when about every GE
> turbofan engine had a part in it with my signature and/or initials +
> employee-number on it (depending on the part). Were that part to fail
> the engine would shut down almost instantly, and possibly
> spectacularly.


   See below about a spectacular failure!

 
> Each morning, the foreman would start the day: REMEMBER, you are paid
> by the hour, NOT by the piece. Get it right, take your time, get it
> right.
> 
> We took the work very seriously. Later, Westinghouse Europe awarded the
> company some very critical cooling-train parts for breeder reactors in
> France. Some of those also had my signature on them and some are still
> in service. The company still exists, still is healthy and still takes
> good care of its people... and STILL pays them by the hour, not by the
> piece. Although that foreman is amongst the departed. MHRIP.
> 
> Peter Wieck
> Wyncote, PA



   Obviously, you know nothing absolutely about electronics
manufacturing, or electrical QC.  The "failure" can be anything from a
bad part, a part in the wrong place, a bad solder joint, unsigned
paperwork, or cosmetic damage.  It can be boards sent back for an ECO
that were produced before the change was signed off.  Its faster o keep
making the board and have a part or two changed later than to shut the
whole line done for days while the ECO goes through the channels. For
the startup of a new line with all new equipment that is hand assembled
it was the target for the first few weeks, till they ECO'd out the
problems.  Being a machinist is a whole different game.  With modern CNC
machines the failure rate is a lot lower than it used to be.

   My test stamp is in on parts in orbit, and we didn't have 0% off the
assembly line. We made sure the equipment was 100% before we shipped
it.  You better hope we didn't ship any crap.  Microdyne was NASA's
supplier for "Command Destruct Receivers", along with Telemetry
receivers. If one of the "Command Destruct Receivers" fails they may not
be able to destroy an out of control missile.   Some Telemetry receivers
were in service over 30 years with zero downtime when I left the
company.



-- 
My sig file can beat up your sig file!


Article: 335237 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 22:42:56 -0700
Message-ID: <4ivs72pasba17i9c4hltg69tu2037mf88k@4ax.com>
References: <1148618385.034999.39510@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <e577cd$olh$1@reader1.panix.com> <1148665951.755079.63870@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <e57i25$bvh$3@reader1.panix.com> <1148671230.532512.227120@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <e57o5l$dmn$1@reader1.panix.com> <1148904006.983920.49750@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1149024077.251495.188280@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <OImfg.2492$oa1.1615@news02.roc.ny> <1149106286.506644.42000@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>

On 31 May 2006 13:11:26 -0700, "Stephanie Weil"
<stephanienyc@gmail.com> wrote:

>That's because they've usually done time at a taxi-cab company - more
>commonly a "Livery" type service. <snip>

Maybe in Noo Yawk.  Nowhere else in creation does that happen.


Article: 335238 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Sofa Slug <sofaslug403spamnot@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Looking for help with oscillations and whistling in Clinton K-7
References: <w3pfg.44975$As2.16161@trnddc02>
Message-ID: <wpvfg.43734$Lm5.21735@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 06:02:04 GMT

Some good suggestions have been provided already, but I'll add my 2 cents...

Did you ground the new capacitors to the same places as the originals? 
Usually new caps can use closer grounds, but in some critical circuits 
the longer ground paths were important.

I've also had some luck with this type of problem by dressing wires in 
RF/IF areas as close to the chassis as possible. Try using something 
non-conductive like a popsicle stick to carefully move wires around 
and/or press them flat against the chassis. See if this has any effect 
on the oscillation.

If you have not already done so, you might try increasing the AVC bypass 
cap value.

Have any of the original IF xfrmrs been changed? If so, try swapping the 
plate windings on the new xfrmr(s).

As a last ditch effort, you could try detuning the IF a bit by "stagger 
tuning" maybe 5-10 KC on either side of the peak. This will lower the 
gain of course, but there may be enough reserve gain to get away with it.


Article: 335239 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 22:52:50 -0700
Message-ID: <ksvs725an2d91qborhp8g398j25dt4kmhr@4ax.com>
References: <16028-447D2914-817@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> <e5dq72d9eab0l7r6ai2e51nijvm8mpctpm@4ax.com> <1149078713.720486.113970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <sk8r729vkfo6nhk1pircrq88kjh91638hc@4ax.com> <1149096310.867782.319360@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-3105061542380001@216-80-74-96.d.enteract.com> <ra7s72tvagitnbalu7io5te6t60cvh9781@4ax.com> <1149125312.187785.213740@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4e77dgF1d8aaaU1@individual.net>

On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 00:06:02 -0400, Radio Rambler <jim@jam.com> wrote:

>hey wieck, this is where your ignorance shows. <snip>

Daily.  When's the last time that poppinjay ever posted anything about
anything regarding electronics or radio?

>i was in the home electronics service industry in the late sixties & early
>seventies & i can tell you right now that that all of the electronic
>equipment that was made in the orient since the late seventies was / is
>garbage. this shit from china is even worse. there are NO better
>televisions made any more. they are cheap & disposable. what really pisses
>me off is when ignorent bastards like you try to force your opinions as
>fact. <snip>

Which is why he's in the kill file bucket, along with "Skippy" and
Steven the whacky juke box foamer.

>apparently, you have no idea that this chinese made garbage has forced the
>television service industry almost completely out of buisness.
>what killed the electronics industry was the government-sanctioned "dumping"
>of electronics from the japanese at below market value. this was going on 
>throughout the sixties & seventies. our electronics industry couldent 
>compete on those terms. zenith radio corporation fought a long legal battle
>against the U.S. trade office for years with no relief, yes, our government
>under the nixon administration was the beginning to the end of our
>electronics industry. <snip>

Amen to THAT!  Zenith blew millions trying to force the Nixon Repukes
to do their job...execute the law as proscibed by Congress...all to no
avail.  GE, prior to being screwed up by "Neutron Jackass," also was
in the frey, but as soon as the Jackass took over, one of the first
things he did was start shutting down US plants.  Now, be it known
that I never saw a "good" GE color TV from Buffalo...period...but it
wasn't the plant nor the workers' fault...it was bad engineering.
Welch, wanting quick results so he could justify his completely out of
line compensation demands, started shutting down domestic production
and tanked their part in the industry.

>> The world owes me _nothing_ <snip>

....except a foot up your ass and a trip to the kill file toilet.

*kerFLUSH*


Article: 335240 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com>
References: <w3pfg.44975$As2.16161@trnddc02>
Subject: Re: Looking for help with oscillations and whistling in Clinton K-7 1937 table set
Message-ID: <Vmwfg.4479$7e.1702@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 07:07:33 GMT

The last 2 times this happened to me I found it was an odd combination of 
the new style film caps having different reactions with nearby parts like 
coils and tube bases and leads. I went through everything 5 times before 
that - even took apart and recapped the IFs (they were fine) and replaced 
all the resistors in the RF and IF circuits. No change.

Then the discovery.

It _seems_ that the modern caps do not contain or resist nearby fields like 
the old paper and foil ones did. There's no "outside foil" shield effect. 
Normally this isn't a problem but there is the occasional layout and design 
where it matters.

The cure is placement away from the location the original part occupied near 
antenna entry, rf coil, or oscillator coil - and sometimes high-gain stages 
such as RF amps.

I went nuts checking and rechecking things and still having whines and 
putt-putts until I stuck an older-style paper (in epoxy) cap in place of one 
in the RF amp and osc section of a set and had the problem instantly clear 
up.

A little experimentation demonstrated that I could locate the current film 
caps elsewhere and not have it near the sensitive area and get the desired 
result. Placing it in the original location set up some feedback or field 
disruption issue.

These are usually caps that filter the AVC or bypass one of the early 
stages. Just for the heck of it, try hooking subs up with long leads to get 
them out of the vicinity of where the original was mounted and see what 
happens. If things change for the better you're on the right track.

In one tight chassis I had to make a little shield around the cap with some 
self-adhesive aluminum grounded to the same place as the cap (B- or chassis, 
depending on design.) I wrapped it in insulating tube to prevent shorts and 
the set is happy with it.

Not saying that this is your problem but I wouldn't be shocked if it were.

Ray

"Dan Schwartzman" <schwartzman@verizon.net> wrote in message 
news:w3pfg.44975$As2.16161@trnddc02...
> Hello all- I am an infrequent participant here, but am looking for a 
> little help. I am repairing a Clinton K7 table set from 1937 or so, with a 
> transformerless circuit involving 6A7, 6D6, 75, 43, and 25Z5, with a 
> ballast tube as well. I have recapped and realigned the set without the 
> benefit of the schematic, which was not published in Riders, but it is 
> similar to many other sets of the era, and it wasn't too hard to figure 
> out the trimmers and such. The set is a two band set, with broadcast and 
> SW from 2.2-7.4 mc, and is playing, but the set is whistling like crazy 
> between stations, especially on the low end of the broadcast band.  The IF 
> is apparently 465 and the set tracks properly, but I can't get rid of the 
> oscillations. Adding a true ground to the chassis helps, but not totally. 
> I have gone over the circuit and darn near replaced every resistor and 
> capacitor, except for a couple of mica caps, and have even modified the 
> circuit a little, adding some extra bypass caps, to no avail. Any 
> suggestions would be appreciated. Dan Schwartzman, Easton, PA
> KB3MXP
> 




Article: 335241 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com>
References: <C_SdnSDii_v71-bZRVn-ig@comcast.com> <17161-447B9B8D-138@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net>
Subject: Re: GE "Musaphonic" AA5
Message-ID: <gGwfg.3671$%h.31@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 07:28:12 GMT

That's the problem with most of the ones with the raised speaker housings - 
noisy IFTs. (All of them can suffer from it though the plug-in style is the 
worst.)

A pain to fix but the result is great.

Ray

"Ken G." <goodguyy@webtv.net> wrote in message 
news:17161-447B9B8D-138@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net...
> When i was a young lad we had a brown GE in the kitchen . It was the one
> with the speaker portion taller than the rest of the cabiet and a red
> spot for a dial light .
> My dad kept taking it to the shop for static .. back then they could not
> figure out bad IF cans .
> 




Article: 335242 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <447ec501$0$31638$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
References: <1149024077.251495.188280@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <16028-447D2914-817@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net>   <e5dq72d9eab0l7r6ai2e51nijvm8mpctpm@4ax.com>   <1149078713.720486.113970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>   <sk8r729vkfo6nhk1pircrq88kjh91638hc@4ax.com>   <1149096310.867782.319360@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   <jbyrns-3105061542380001@216-80-74-96.d.enteract.com>   <ra7s72tvagitnbalu7io5te6t60cvh9781@4ax.com> <1149125312.187785.213740@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <Y_sfg.4844$VE1.3706@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>
Date: 01 Jun 2006 10:44:17 GMT

Carter-K8VT <k8vt@ameritech.net> wrote:
> CERTAINLY a 2006 TV set is better, waaaaay better than a 70's set. Less 
> parts, less energy, better picture, better resolution? You betcha!

This is only partially true for Europe. Philips was one of the first to 
make virtually indestructible television sets, most notably their first 
solid state set, the K9 of 1972 and its late seventies successor, the K11 
with inline tube. Those sets were very reliable, but still had a somewhat 
high energy consumption (195 watts). The most reliable CRT television sets 
EVER were made in the early eighties. Grundig started their first line of 
CUC chassis around that time. Philips introduced the K40 chassis, which 
was not only very dependable (after some minor modifications, most notably 
the 1993 recall in which Philips technicians came to the customer's homes, 
for free, to fix the then 6 to 11 year old sets because some loose solder 
connections could cause a fire hazard when the TV was left playing with 
obvious defects) but had similair energy consumption to now modern sets 
(around 90 watts for a 22 or 26" set). Both Philips and Grundig had their 
share of problems after that, especially Grundig that continued for 
several years to use HV triplers which were very unreliable. My daily 
driver is a 1991 high-end Grundig TV, in which the tripler was swapped for 
a better one. It has a somewhat better picture compared to older sets, and 
is reliable enough. Later sets may be nicer in features, but I haven't 
seen anything significantly better in picture or manufacturing quality. 
Keep in mind I am talking about high-end models now. Low-end brands always 
had problems, and I certainly wouldn't advise people to buy one of those, 
unless cheap second hand.

-- 
Met vriendelijke groet,

Maarten Bakker.


Article: 335243 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Lou deGonzague <zenith@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: Hammarlund HQ-100 tube placement chart needed
Message-ID: <HuBfg.5459$W97.2210@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:57:11 GMT

I have the manual but it does not include a tube placement chart. I am 
fixing this for a friend and am not sure the tubes are correctly placed.


Article: 335244 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Paul P" <paulREMOVE@REMOVEppinyotREMOVE.com>
References: <V8Sdnc9fj7Sz3uvZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@comcast.com> <pe6dna8nOqK5AuTZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com> <e5gn5p019mj@news2.newsguy.com> <Xns97D460CB1AAnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>
Subject: Re: Power Button fix
Message-ID: <uyBfg.14417$xO5.5538@trnddc03>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:01:14 GMT


"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message 
news:Xns97D460CB1AAnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> "Scott W. Harvey" <NOT_MY_REAL@email.com> wrote in
> news:e5gn5p019mj@news2.newsguy.com:
>
> My only complaint is the damned power button depresses in my toolbox,
> killing the 9V battery.

Glue a grommet of appropriate size around the button.  I have an antenna 
analyzer that I did this to. The carry case pushes the button in.  Works 
great.

PP 




Article: 335245 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Stan" <stanford@nf.sympatico.ca>
Subject: RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) TAGS
Message-ID: <0RBfg.1479$Su3.131282@news20.bellglobal.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 10:53:14 -0230

The increasing use of RFID tagging systems?
Apology for slightly off topic but maybe of interest to Long Wavers. Others?
Was just listening to a radio programme; good ole 640 kilocycles AM btw, to 
someone who has implanted RFID tags in both hands and uses these to operate 
his car, open his front door etc.
What seemed interesting was that frequencies of 124 and 137 kilohertz were 
mentioned!
Had always imagined that these RFID things worked at much higher 
frequencies.
Apart from some European 'Long Wave' broadcasters 100 to 300 kHz. is the 
band used for 'Radio Beacons'; a frequency band that doesn't appear on most 
North American radios? Also below most IFs.
The speaker also implied that some 'scanners' ( I guess that's the devices 
that are either handheld or are part of the cash register/check out)  can be 
quite cheap; like $40 new?
Could any of those devices, as they become more common (used/surplus etc.) 
be of any interest, of concern, or possibly of use to those of us who 
experiment or fix radios etc.?
BTW: Also heard about someone with an RFID tagged ski jacket (for avalanches 
rescue) who set off exit alarms when walking past certain stores. 




Article: 335246 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Nelson Gietz" <ngietz@mts.net>
References: <w3pfg.44975$As2.16161@trnddc02> <Vmwfg.4479$7e.1702@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for help with oscillations and whistling in Clinton K-7 1937 table set
Message-ID: <b4Cfg.8$_k6.7@newsfe22.lga>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 08:38:56 -0500


"Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com> wrote in message
news:Vmwfg.4479$7e.1702@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com...
> The last 2 times this happened to me I found it was an odd combination of
> the new style film caps having different reactions with nearby parts like
> coils and tube bases and leads. I went through everything 5 times before
> that - even took apart and recapped the IFs (they were fine) and replaced
> all the resistors in the RF and IF circuits. No change.
>
> Then the discovery.
>
> It _seems_ that the modern caps do not contain or resist nearby fields
like
> the old paper and foil ones did. There's no "outside foil" shield effect.
> Normally this isn't a problem but there is the occasional layout and
design
> where it matters.
>
> The cure is placement away from the location the original part occupied
near
> antenna entry, rf coil, or oscillator coil - and sometimes high-gain
stages
> such as RF amps.
(Snipped)
Ray

It seems to me that you may have hit on something important when we're
using the new caps.  Many of the older ones had a mark indicating "outer
foil".
If the new ones are still made with two coiled foils (I haven't opened one),
one of the foils "should" be on the outside, and maybe simply reversing the
cap end-for-end would solve the problem.  I sort of thought of that in
passing
on a couple of  occasions, but the thought never really seemed important as
long as things worked, and I just went on to replace the next one.
    Is there any way to tell which would be the outer foil on the new ones?
    Cheers,
    Nelson





Article: 335247 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Chris F." <zappymanNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
Subject: Raytheon RK-45 Tubes
Message-ID: <uLCfg.16000$A26.371771@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 14:23:22 GMT

  A friend who recently acquired an estate of old radios, brought me what he 
thought was an amplifier from an old Hammond organ, to sell for him. 
However, it says "Model G Tuning Fork Regulator", so I'm assuming it isn't 
an amp at all - though I'm not really sure just what it is. The interesting 
part is that among the tubes are a pair of ceramic-based Raytheon RK-45 's, 
and I can't find any vendor or Ebay seller who has these for sale, so I 
could determine their value. At this point, I'm thinking the tubes are worth 
far more than the unit itself, and am considering selling them separately - 
would that be a good idea?

-- 
To reply via Email, remove NOSPAM from the address 




Article: 335248 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <447EFA5A.3CE80CF8@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philcoin 
References: <1149024077.251495.188280@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <16028-447D2914-817@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net>   <e5dq72d9eab0l7r6ai2e51nijvm8mpctpm@4ax.com>   <1149078713.720486.113970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>   <sk8r729vkfo6nhk1pircrq88kjh91638hc@4ax.com>   <1149096310.867782.319360@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   <jbyrns-3105061542380001@216-80-74-96.d.enteract.com>   <ra7s72tvagitnbalu7io5te6t60cvh9781@4ax.com>   <1149125312.187785.213740@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Y_sfg.4844$VE1.3706@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> <1149165148.133345.164470@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <I6CdnaVTw-4qbOPZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@comcast.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 14:32:06 GMT

Bill Cohn wrote:
> 
> Peter Wieck wrote:
> > But, for all that, the US makes _NO_ LCD screens of any kind, and never
> > did. Only one VCR was ever made (assembled, actually) in the US, and it
> > did not last. Anyone here remember it? No DVD/CD transports are made in
> >
> > Peter Wieck
> > Wyncote, PA
> >
> 
> Cartravision - 1973 or 1974. It was a flop in the marketplace.
> 
> I was working for Zenith at the time designing TV sets. I think we did a
> good job at the time. We were developing new technologies in that
> consumer product space. I would easily compare my products with those of
> Sony or any of the other offshore companies at the time. At that time we
> were producing televisions in plants in Chicago and Taiwan. The designs
> all came from the US. It was increasingly difficult to get US sourced
> parts as these products, resistors and capacitors, were not made here.
> 
> Bill Cohn - N9MHT


   The test fixtures and some prototype Cartrivision assemblies were
still in the Cincinnati, Ohio AVCO Electronics plant when Cincinnati
Electronics took over the military electronics operation. They were
still in storage when I worked QC on the PRC-77 radio a few years later,
along with maybe 1000 pieces of excess test equipment.


-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 335249 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Steve" <zarco@sonic.net>
Subject: who rebuilds meters?
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 07:44:57 -0700
Message-ID: <447efd6e$0$96959$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>

A friend just bought a used Henry amp, and the meters need
to be rebuilt. Can anyone here suggest a good reliable person
that does this? TIA.

                             Steve 




Article: 335250 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <447F05DA.3840D72@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philcoin 
References: <1149024077.251495.188280@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <16028-447D2914-817@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net>   <e5dq72d9eab0l7r6ai2e51nijvm8mpctpm@4ax.com>   <1149078713.720486.113970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>   <sk8r729vkfo6nhk1pircrq88kjh91638hc@4ax.com>   <1149096310.867782.319360@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   <jbyrns-3105061542380001@216-80-74-96.d.enteract.com>   <ra7s72tvagitnbalu7io5te6t60cvh9781@4ax.com>   <1149125312.187785.213740@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Y_sfg.4844$VE1.3706@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>   <1149165148.133345.164470@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   <I6CdnaVTw-4qbOPZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@comcast.com> <1149171532.833003.39380@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5P-dnekpbsxdZ-PZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:21:10 GMT

Bill Cohn wrote:
> 
> Peter Wieck wrote:
> > Bill Cohn wrote:
> >> Peter Wieck wrote:
> >>> But, for all that, the US makes _NO_ LCD screens of any kind, and never
> >>> did. Only one VCR was ever made (assembled, actually) in the US, and it
> >>> did not last. Anyone here remember it? No DVD/CD transports are made in
> >>>
> >>> Peter Wieck
> >>> Wyncote, PA
> >>>
> >> Cartravision - 1973 or 1974. It was a flop in the marketplace.
> >>
> >> I was working for Zenith at the time designing TV sets. I think we did a
> >> good job at the time. We were developing new technologies in that
> >> consumer product space. I would easily compare my products with those of
> >> Sony or any of the other offshore companies at the time. At that time we
> >> were producing televisions in plants in Chicago and Taiwan. The designs
> >> all came from the US. It was increasingly difficult to get US sourced
> >> parts as these products, resistors and capacitors, were not made here.
> >>
> >> Bill Cohn - N9MHT
> >
> > Cartravision was a unique format, was it not?
> >
> > I had "GO VIDEO" in mind, briefly (very briefly) assembled in Arizona
> > before leaping overseas. Their claim to fame was both the US flag
> > (assembled in) flag on the box, and the fact that they were a
> > dual-deck. As I remember, they were quite expensive for not-so-hot
> > results.
> >
> > Peter Wieck
> > Wyncote, PA
> >
> Cartravision had a unique cassette and used a form of compression
> referred to as skip field as it only recorded every third field. That
> made for rather poor resolution. Cartravision was sold by Sears under
> the Silvertone brand and Admiral also had a model in their product line.
> 
> By the way the company I work for now, Videotek a division of Harris,
> makes their products in Pottstown, PA.
> 
> Bill Cohn - N9MHT


   Is that the same Videotek that used to gut Sony Trinitron TV sets to
convert them into video monitors?  They pulled the tuners and added
pairs audio and video inputs, along with an A-B switch.  WACX TV in
orlando had several of them in the late '80s when I was one of the
engineers there.


-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 335251 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 08:30:38 -0700
Message-ID: <0q1u729afkq8mkil69i8feq2tjr0stvuss@4ax.com>
References: <e5dq72d9eab0l7r6ai2e51nijvm8mpctpm@4ax.com>   <1149078713.720486.113970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>   <sk8r729vkfo6nhk1pircrq88kjh91638hc@4ax.com>   <1149096310.867782.319360@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   <jbyrns-3105061542380001@216-80-74-96.d.enteract.com>   <ra7s72tvagitnbalu7io5te6t60cvh9781@4ax.com> <1149125312.187785.213740@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <Y_sfg.4844$VE1.3706@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> <PcOdnf31iKXpUuPZRVn-jg@comcast.com>

On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 04:29:55 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
<gizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

>But this difference goes back to the '70s. The first Sony Trinitrons knocked
>the pants off American-made sets for picture quality. They didn't have
>better technology (except, arguably, the CRT); they just used it better.
>That is, they cared about producing a better set with a better picture. <snip>

The only thing Sony had going was the Trinitron CRT, which neatly got
rid of all the previous dynamic convergence problems that buyers were
used to getting on conventional CRTs.  In retrospect, it was a given
that people wouldn't have a serviceman come out and properly align a
set; they'd just sit and bitch about it.  The Trinitron eliminated
that irritant, and thus, people thought they were "better."  They
weren't.  The rest of the electronics was fraught with failures, as is
any Sony product even today.


Article: 335252 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: How useful is a signal tracer?
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <V8Sdnc9fj7Sz3uvZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@comcast.com> <pe6dna8nOqK5AuTZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com> <e5gn5p019mj@news2.newsguy.com> <Xns97D460CB1AAnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253> <q1bq72l0d47ovu27651ldhiomvsrb2bea6@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <Xns97D57A003E3ACnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:59:32 -0400

DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net> wrote in 
news:q1bq72l0d47ovu27651ldhiomvsrb2bea6@4ax.com:

> Why do that?  Just bypass the manuals and drawbars and go directly
> into the preamp!  Why complicate simplicity?
> 
> 

I work on more than just Hammonds....



Article: 335253 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) TAGS
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <0RBfg.1479$Su3.131282@news20.bellglobal.com>
Message-ID: <Xns97D57AB4EFC73noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:03:41 -0400

"Stan" <stanford@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote in
news:0RBfg.1479$Su3.131282@news20.bellglobal.com: 

> BTW: Also heard about someone with an RFID tagged ski jacket (for
> avalanches rescue) who set off exit alarms when walking past certain
> stores. 
> 
> 

I carry as many "hot" alarm tags as I can stuck to my wallet.  Best Buy, 
Circuit City, Sears, etc., all "go off" as I come INTO the stores.  I tell 
'em I have a metal plate in my head...(c;



Article: 335254 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Radio Rambler <jim@jam.com>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:19:02 -0400
Message-ID: <4e8ibpF1ckg0uU1@individual.net>
References: <1149024077.251495.188280@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <16028-447D2914-817@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> <e5dq72d9eab0l7r6ai2e51nijvm8mpctpm@4ax.com> <1149078713.720486.113970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <sk8r729vkfo6nhk1pircrq88kjh91638hc@4ax.com> <1149096310.867782.319360@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-3105061542380001@216-80-74-96.d.enteract.com> <ra7s72tvagitnbalu7io5te6t60cvh9781@4ax.com> <1149125312.187785.213740@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4e77dgF1d8aaaU1@individual.net> <1149136516.100516.266590@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

Steven wrote:

> 
> Radio Rambler wrote:

> 
> KNOWS WHAT?
> 
> Most "Japanese" electronics went to Taiwan, then Korea, Malaysia then
> China if the Japanese company wasn't simply purchased by Hong Kong
> interests. Sony TVs were built in America for quite some time. A lot of
> things are built in Mexico (which you'd think was helping Mexicans, but
> I guess not).

this is where YOUR stupidity shows, Dinius
Sony tv's were never built here. the chassis was usually made in japan or
malaysia.

-- 
The Shadow Knows


Article: 335255 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:13:21 -0500
Message-ID: <8237-447F1221-1122@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1149128557.405053.207770@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

I will always stick up for American manufactured products.(I do
appreciate other peoples opinions,both pro and con) How many times have
y'all been driving along and seen old,old,old American manufactured
vehicles still plugging along on the roads,highways,interstates,you name
it.Good old American Iron last forever.How many old,old,old foreign name
brand vehicles do y'all see still plugging along out there?
cuhulin 



Article: 335256 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:29:14 -0500
Message-ID: <8237-447F15DA-1123@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>
References: <Y_sfg.4844$VE1.3706@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>

Back in the 1930's,or before,or not too long after,Mercedes Benz and
Fiat had factories in New York.(LQQK it up if y'all dont believe me) and
in the 1940's,Rolls Royce had a factory in Massachutessetts.(I apologize
if I didn't spell Mass right) Rolls Royce's ''official'' explanation for
pulling out of America was not enough sales.

The real truth (concerning Rolls Royce (LQQK it up) was the Rolls Royce
factory in America was building Rolls Royce cars better and the cars
were more reliable than the Rolls Royce cars built in England.

I know a married Irish woman whom is married to an Irish guy and they
live in Bognor Regis,England.They live not far from the Rolls Royce
(BMW/Rolls Royce) factory at Longwood.
cuhulin 



Article: 335257 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:32:30 -0500
Message-ID: <8238-447F169E-225@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>
References: <4e77dgF1d8aaaU1@individual.net>

Peter Wieck makes perfectly good sense.Peter,I am not ''funny'' and I am
not kissing up to you.
cuhulin



Article: 335258 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:35:08 -0500
Message-ID: <8237-447F173C-1124@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>
References: <447E6E47.19C8FEA9@earthlink.net>

I dont know much about electronics.That doesn't make me stupid,it makes
me dumb.
cuhulin



Article: 335259 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:33:01 -0700
Message-ID: <622u725bs43nr5th6tg8ajetp9qqr3fivv@4ax.com>
References: <1149078713.720486.113970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>   <sk8r729vkfo6nhk1pircrq88kjh91638hc@4ax.com>   <1149096310.867782.319360@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   <jbyrns-3105061542380001@216-80-74-96.d.enteract.com>   <ra7s72tvagitnbalu7io5te6t60cvh9781@4ax.com>   <1149125312.187785.213740@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Y_sfg.4844$VE1.3706@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> <1149165148.133345.164470@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <I6CdnaVTw-4qbOPZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@comcast.com>

On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 08:53:08 -0500, Bill Cohn <billcohn1.comcast.net>
wrote:

>I was working for Zenith at the time designing TV sets. I think we did a 
>good job at the time. <snip>

Oh yes...those Zeniths were truly the "zenith" of the US television
market.  I've had two of the 25"ers (forgot the chassis number by
now), one of which is still working fine.  Those were fantastic sets.

>It was increasingly difficult to get US sourced 
>parts as these products, resistors and capacitors, were not made here. <snip>

Exactly.  Foreign interests, notably the Japanese, priced traditional
domestic producers out of the market for non-MIL-spec or industrial
grade stuff, and it all went overseas.


Article: 335260 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:48:44 -0500
Message-ID: <8237-447F1A6C-1125@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1149136516.100516.266590@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

My RCA 27 inch screen tv set was put together in Mexico.(let me get that
RCA remote and see how many hours I have on it now,since first turned on
October 15,1999,,, 44,553 hours,as of right now) I bought it on October
15,1999 at a Wal Mart store.So far,it is still working just as good as
new.I only use it for my webtv thangy.I have another tv set for watching
old,old movies on DirecTV.Sure,I can get them little picture in picture
thingys on both tv sets.But what is the use of little pictures in medium
size tv sets anyway? Do I want to look at those Hungarian wimmins in a
little picture in picture thingy? Heck NO! I like them on full
screen.But,that's just me.
cuhulin



Article: 335261 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 12:12:19 -0500
Message-ID: <8237-447F1FF3-1126@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>
References: <447ec501$0$31638$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>

All of my webtv equipment says Philips Magnavox on there.Now,I realize
this isn't a politics website.But I sort of know a woman whom lives in
Lima,Ohio and she is all about politics talking stuff.(y'all might find
her at   www.pipelinenews.com   it might be a dot org) She has (she is
about 57 years old) worked at several American factories in the Lima
area before,as usual,fed govt sold them down the River,she worked at a
Murray Bicycle factory in the Lima area,other Lima factories.Philips put
a new factory in the Lima area a few years ago.She once told me she
doesn't like my atrocious language and she won't email me
anymore.(Rosie,I still likes ya) I used to wait up to about 2:30 AM
every morning/night for good old Rosie to get home from work and she and
I used to talk some politics.I sent her some politics (rackjite and
others) sites she had never heard of before.

Hows the Fishing at Indian Lake,Rosie?
cuhulin



Article: 335262 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 12:17:09 -0500
Message-ID: <8239-447F2115-67@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>
References: <PcOdnf31iKXpUuPZRVn-jg@comcast.com>

World War Two,We knocked the britches off of all them furriners.We are
knocking the britches off of them islam jihads now.
cuhulin
[Keep On Knocking] 



Article: 335263 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Chris F." <zappymanNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
References: <uLCfg.16000$A26.371771@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>
Subject: Re: Raytheon RK-45 Tubes
Message-ID: <YIFfg.16088$A26.373602@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 17:45:28 GMT

My mistake - these are RK-49, not RK-45. I found some NOS RK-49's selling 
for $40 apiece. But if anyone has any info on the value of this Hammond 
regulator, I'd like to know.

"Chris F." <zappymanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:uLCfg.16000$A26.371771@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>  A friend who recently acquired an estate of old radios, brought me what 
> he thought was an amplifier from an old Hammond organ, to sell for him. 
> However, it says "Model G Tuning Fork Regulator", so I'm assuming it isn't 
> an amp at all - though I'm not really sure just what it is. The 
> interesting part is that among the tubes are a pair of ceramic-based 
> Raytheon RK-45 's, and I can't find any vendor or Ebay seller who has 
> these for sale, so I could determine their value. At this point, I'm 
> thinking the tubes are worth far more than the unit itself, and am 
> considering selling them separately - would that be a good idea?
>
> -- 
> To reply via Email, remove NOSPAM from the address
> 




Article: 335264 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: jakdedert <jakdedert@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Power Button fix
References: <V8Sdnc9fj7Sz3uvZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@comcast.com> <pe6dna8nOqK5AuTZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com> <e5gn5p019mj@news2.newsguy.com> <Xns97D460CB1AAnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253> <uyBfg.14417$xO5.5538@trnddc03>
Message-ID: <%NFfg.6644$EX2.3896@bignews5.bellsouth.net>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:50:20 -0500

Paul P wrote:
> "Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message 
> news:Xns97D460CB1AAnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
>> "Scott W. Harvey" <NOT_MY_REAL@email.com> wrote in
>> news:e5gn5p019mj@news2.newsguy.com:
>>
>> My only complaint is the damned power button depresses in my toolbox,
>> killing the 9V battery.
> 
> Glue a grommet of appropriate size around the button.  I have an antenna 
> analyzer that I did this to. The carry case pushes the button in.  Works 
> great.
> 
> PP 
> 
> 
> 
I've done the same thing, only used a slice of an appropriately-sized 
plastic bottle cap...a little more robust, but same concept.




Article: 335265 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 12:53:24 -0500
Message-ID: <8237-447F2994-1146@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>
References: <4e8ibpF1ckg0uU1@individual.net>

My stupidity shows when it shows.Once in a while though,I think I am at
least halfway right.
cuhulin



Article: 335266 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 12:59:58 -0500
Message-ID: <8238-447F2B1E-232@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>
References: <622u725bs43nr5th6tg8ajetp9qqr3fivv@4ax.com>

Zenith equals over priced,overated,JUNK.Zenith never built anything that
was any good.I worked at a Zenith factory in the Shytown area in 1960.
At zenith,The Name Means Junk,Crap! F..k You,Zenith!!!! JUNK!
cuhulin



Article: 335267 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:00:48 -0500
Message-ID: <8238-447F2B50-234@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>
References: <622u725bs43nr5th6tg8ajetp9qqr3fivv@4ax.com>

Zenith SUCKS!
cuhulin



Article: 335268 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:05:55 -0500
Message-ID: <8239-447F2C83-70@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>
References: <622u725bs43nr5th6tg8ajetp9qqr3fivv@4ax.com>

Ther's a party,,,,,, a party goin on,,,,,, at Rapids Water Park.Let me
git my 11 inches of kitestring on and head on over to Rapids On The
Reservoir.
cuhulin



Article: 335269 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: robert casey <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
References: <1149128557.405053.207770@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <8237-447F1221-1122@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>
Message-ID: <wqGfg.779$jB5.527@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:34:04 GMT

cuhulin@webtv.net wrote:

> I will always stick up for American manufactured products.(I do
> appreciate other peoples opinions,both pro and con) How many times have
> y'all been driving along and seen old,old,old American manufactured
> vehicles still plugging along on the roads,highways,interstates,you name
> it.Good old American Iron last forever.How many old,old,old foreign name
> brand vehicles do y'all see still plugging along out there?
> cuhulin 
> 
The Pinto I had just out of college was constantly breaking down.  The 
Honda I had after that held up very well.  I think the American auto 
makers forgot how much people hate being stranded on the road by a 
broken down car...


Article: 335270 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:21:21 -0500
Message-ID: <8237-447F3021-1158@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>
References: <h2lj72h0ucosfj2pvh74v8oc05vhh9bk88@4ax.com>

Well,go buy some old Philco Radios and be happy.I own a bunch of old,old
Philco tube type and transistor Philco Radios and they all work OK.
cuhulin 



Article: 335271 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: How useful is a signal tracer?
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:28:34 -0500
Message-ID: <8237-447F31D2-1160@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>
References: <Xns97D57A003E3ACnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>

I trarrrrced herrr little footprints in the snow,,,,,,,,,, I traced
herrrr little footprinths in the snowwwwwww,,,,,,,,

A Cowboys Calf had got out of the Barn,he traced herrrr little
footprints in the snow.He Saddled up,went out and brought that Calf back
to the Barn.
True Story.
cuhulin



Article: 335272 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Power Button fix
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:31:16 -0500
Message-ID: <8237-447F3274-1162@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>
References: <%NFfg.6644$EX2.3896@bignews5.bellsouth.net>

I think that BEllSouth woman next door wants me to ''push her button''
I am scared.
cuhulin  



Article: 335273 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: robert casey <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
References: <1149024077.251495.188280@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <16028-447D2914-817@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net>   <e5dq72d9eab0l7r6ai2e51nijvm8mpctpm@4ax.com>   <1149078713.720486.113970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>   <sk8r729vkfo6nhk1pircrq88kjh91638hc@4ax.com>   <1149096310.867782.319360@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   <jbyrns-3105061542380001@216-80-74-96.d.enteract.com>   <mSqfg.7517$921.3024@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>   <oues721pchpgip3h5v647qoc4qjr5cmq8n@4ax.com> <1149125963.616731.133440@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <ziGfg.7727$921.659@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:25:35 GMT


> Jack Welch made GE the most successful corporation on earth based on
> growth, profit and stability. They are one of the very last full-line
> Domestic manufacturers of appliances, and one of two (2) still making
> small-appliance (home refrigerators & window AC units) compressors in
> the US. The second maker (Frigidaire) is threatened. They are the
> _last_ domestic full-line manufacturer of light bulbs (properly,
> lamps). GE is #1 or #2 in every line it has, from appliances to
> aircraft engines, from turbines to locomotives. Welch may have been one
> reprehensible human being, but he was one helluva manager. And what he
> started pretty much still obtains today. And, for the record, I have no
> love whatsoever for GE....

He destroyed a great job I once had at RCA Labs.  Haven't bought 
anything made by GE since.  (They probably haven't noticed....)


Article: 335274 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <447F51ED.11B11E8C@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a 
References: <1149024077.251495.188280@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <16028-447D2914-817@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net>   <e5dq72d9eab0l7r6ai2e51nijvm8mpctpm@4ax.com>   <1149078713.720486.113970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>   <sk8r729vkfo6nhk1pircrq88kjh91638hc@4ax.com>   <1149096310.867782.319360@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   <jbyrns-3105061542380001@216-80-74-96.d.enteract.com>   <ra7s72tvagitnbalu7io5te6t60cvh9781@4ax.com>   <1149125312.187785.213740@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Y_sfg.4844$VE1.3706@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>   <1149165148.133345.164470@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   <I6CdnaVTw-4qbOPZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@comcast.com> <1149171532.833003.39380@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5P-dnekpbsxdZ-PZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com> <447F05DA.3840D72@earthlink.net> <V8Sdnbag3Zikk-LZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 20:45:54 GMT

Bill Cohn wrote:
> 
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> 
> >
> >    Is that the same Videotek that used to gut Sony Trinitron TV sets to
> > convert them into video monitors?  They pulled the tuners and added
> > pairs audio and video inputs, along with an A-B switch.  WACX TV in
> > orlando had several of them in the late '80s when I was one of the
> > engineers there.
> >
> >
> 
> Yes. But we have come a long way from that part of the business. The
> company has not done that for over 15 years. We are now making Video
> Test and Measurement that is starting to outclass the traditional market
>   Tektronix my previous employer.


   I was just curious.  They filled a need when Conrac and others were
just too damn expensive to be able to have a few extra monitors around a
TV studio. I used to add audio and video inputs & outputs to the
original Motorola Quasar TVs to work on R-R VTRs.

   Is any documentation still availible for the monitors?  I think I
still have one in storage that needs repaired.


-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 335275 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com>
References: <w3pfg.44975$As2.16161@trnddc02> <Vmwfg.4479$7e.1702@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <b4Cfg.8$_k6.7@newsfe22.lga>
Subject: Re: Looking for help with oscillations and whistling in Clinton K-7 1937 table set
Message-ID: <%BIfg.4344$%h.3821@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 21:02:51 GMT

I haven't found a reliable method of identifying "outside foil" and it 
doesn't seem to matter with these film caps anyway. The coating on the film 
is so thin it can be seen through (think of semi-silvered window film or 
sunglasses). Light gets through and so does other radiation.

Some older caps were marked with a line to indicate the outside lead but 
again it really made no functional difference. I tried flipping them before 
I tried other measures. No difference at all.

They are perfectly good replacements except for this quirk in a few special 
circumstances. Now that I have stumbled onto it I can deal with it but it 
drove me and a couple of friends nuts for a long while. Now I don't have to 
live with deliberately mis-aligned radios to get by.

Ray

"Nelson Gietz" <ngietz@mts.net> wrote in message 
news:b4Cfg.8$_k6.7@newsfe22.lga...
>
> "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com> wrote in message
> news:Vmwfg.4479$7e.1702@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com...
>> The last 2 times this happened to me I found it was an odd combination of
>> the new style film caps having different reactions with nearby parts like
>> coils and tube bases and leads. I went through everything 5 times before
>> that - even took apart and recapped the IFs (they were fine) and replaced
>> all the resistors in the RF and IF circuits. No change.
>>
>> Then the discovery.
>>
>> It _seems_ that the modern caps do not contain or resist nearby fields
> like
>> the old paper and foil ones did. There's no "outside foil" shield effect.
>> Normally this isn't a problem but there is the occasional layout and
> design
>> where it matters.
>>
>> The cure is placement away from the location the original part occupied
> near
>> antenna entry, rf coil, or oscillator coil - and sometimes high-gain
> stages
>> such as RF amps.
> (Snipped)
> Ray
>
> It seems to me that you may have hit on something important when we're
> using the new caps.  Many of the older ones had a mark indicating "outer
> foil".
> If the new ones are still made with two coiled foils (I haven't opened 
> one),
> one of the foils "should" be on the outside, and maybe simply reversing 
> the
> cap end-for-end would solve the problem.  I sort of thought of that in
> passing
> on a couple of  occasions, but the thought never really seemed important 
> as
> long as things worked, and I just went on to replace the next one.
>    Is there any way to tell which would be the outer foil on the new ones?
>    Cheers,
>    Nelson
>
>
> 




Article: 335276 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:51:02 -0700
Message-ID: <qnku72dqm4shq6lvn65g25jc0n99u80ieq@4ax.com>
References: <1149128557.405053.207770@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <8237-447F1221-1122@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>

On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:13:21 -0500, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote:

>I will always stick up for American manufactured products.(I do
>appreciate other peoples opinions,both pro and con) How many times have
>y'all been driving along and seen old,old,old American manufactured
>vehicles still plugging along on the roads,highways,interstates,you name
>it.Good old American Iron last forever.How many old,old,old foreign name
>brand vehicles do y'all see still plugging along out there? <snip>

I have a 28 year old Honda Accord that gets 34 MPG and has 34°F air
conditioning.  Everything in that car still works, even the electric
clock.


Article: 335277 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:52:34 -0700
Message-ID: <cqku72tu692lultkquev9ig14o9vcon9dq@4ax.com>
References: <1149128557.405053.207770@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <8237-447F1221-1122@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> <wqGfg.779$jB5.527@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>

On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:34:04 GMT, robert casey <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

>The Pinto I had just out of college was constantly breaking down. <snip>

Some Pintos were pretty hardy cars, notably the ones with the 2000 and
2300 cc German-made engines.  Anything after 1975 was junk.  None of
them were very good cars, per se...lots of wasted space in the design,
and not terrribly efficient.


Article: 335278 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:53:41 -0700
Message-ID: <4uku7217do87fsd3bvlequ16n6r3r3r8t4@4ax.com>
References: <4e77dgF1d8aaaU1@individual.net> <8238-447F169E-225@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>

On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:32:30 -0500, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote:

>Peter Wieck makes perfectly good sense.<snip>

Enough of the trailer trash.

*plonk*


Article: 335279 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Radio Rambler <jim@jam.com>
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Phil...
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 17:23:42 -0400
Message-ID: <4e9471F1dh54lU1@individual.net>
References: <622u725bs43nr5th6tg8ajetp9qqr3fivv@4ax.com> <8238-447F2B50-234@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>

cuhulin@webtv.net wrote:

> Zenith SUCKS!
> cuhulin

your full of shit!
-- 
The Shadow Knows


Article: 335280 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a  Philcoinages]
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 14:04:46 -0700
Message-ID: <65lu725ub1uq8q3g5knsg0f4pun3ma0h3a@4ax.com>
References: <ra7s72tvagitnbalu7io5te6t60cvh9781@4ax.com>   <1149125312.187785.213740@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Y_sfg.4844$VE1.3706@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>   <1149165148.133345.164470@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   <I6CdnaVTw-4qbOPZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@comcast.com> <1149171532.833003.39380@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5P-dnekpbsxdZ-PZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com> <447F05DA.3840D72@earthlink.net> <V8Sdnbag3Zikk-LZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com> <447F51ED.11B11E8C@earthlink.net>

On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 20:45:54 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

>   I was just curious.  They filled a need when Conrac and others were
>just too damn expensive to be able to have a few extra monitors around a
>TV studio. I used to add audio and video inputs & outputs to the
>original Motorola Quasar TVs to work on R-R VTRs. <snip>

Conrac....oy, what a nightmare THEY were.

In the '80s, Conrac became a "non-business."  At our earth station we
got from GTE, they had a few Conrac/Trinitron monitors in need of
repair...bad power supplies, noisy vertical amps, you name it.  The
Conrac plant out in Monrovia was close enough, and I was way
overloaded with stuff preparing for the conversion from linear to
circular polarization on two of our antennas, so we farmed out the
work to Conrac.  Off to Monrovia they went in the back of the company
station wagon.

Six months later, after several phone calls ("Where the hell are our
monitors???") some guy in the warehouse calls back, "Are these yours?"
He read the tags and sure enough, they were ours, and we were told to
come pick them up...now...or they'd get scrapped.  (!!)  Off I went to
retrieve them.  A bill for $762 awaited, which I authorized.  Got them
back to the stations, plugged the gennie into them...they didn't do a
THING to them!  Called Conrac back...no answer??  A trip down there a
month later showed the placed locked up tight and no one around.  I
kept them as I referred the matter of fraud to company legal, and we
just replaced everything with new Teks.

I never did find out WTF happened at the Monrovia facility, but word
was that Conrac was so delirious ripping off the US military on bogus
contracts, they didn't think a thing of ripping us off for undone
repairs.

When things died down a bit, I got into those Conracs and cleaned them
up.  Even when everything was per spec, they were NOT a very good
monitor; the Teks outclassed them in every way.  Later, word came from
30 Rock (NBC) and CBS that they frowned upon us using Teks to
evaluated incoming video from the birds...the monitors were simply too
good!  By that time, the networks were using consumer TV sets, without
the good comb filters and others niceties, to see what the end user
would see.  It was, indeed, a revealtion...a baseband signal that
looked fine on a Tek would be shedded crap on one of those cheapie
TVs!


Article: 335281 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: How useful is a signal tracer?
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 14:06:49 -0700
Message-ID: <2mlu72lqd83hf368nav50bcu132l99t8q1@4ax.com>
References: <V8Sdnc9fj7Sz3uvZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@comcast.com> <pe6dna8nOqK5AuTZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com> <e5gn5p019mj@news2.newsguy.com> <Xns97D460CB1AAnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253> <q1bq72l0d47ovu27651ldhiomvsrb2bea6@4ax.com> <Xns97D57A003E3ACnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>

On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:59:32 -0400, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

>I work on more than just Hammonds.... <snip>

Good...cook me up some keyer LSIs for my Conn 652!


Article: 335282 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: Well of course it doesn't work DUFUS!
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 06:28:15 +0900
Message-ID: <e5nm1v$ohg$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <nRqfg.67697$MM6.59823@bignews3.bellsouth.net> <SCGfg.783$jB5.158@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>


"robert casey" <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message 
news:SCGfg.783$jB5.158@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Ken Scharf wrote:
>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/GE-Tube-Battery-Radio-Vintage-Burgundy-Carry-Case_W0QQitemZ9733389672QQihZ008QQcategoryZ50595QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>> This guy says he plugged in the radio and it only hums.  Well from the 
>> pictures
>> I think I can say I know why.  Nothing a missing 1R5 wouldn't fix!
>
> I'd still recap the wax caps, though

As well as the filter, if it's humming without the 1R5 in it. 




Article: 335283 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Radio Rambler <jim@jam.com>
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Phil...
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 17:29:17 -0400
Message-ID: <4e94hgF1dn2pqU1@individual.net>
References: <622u725bs43nr5th6tg8ajetp9qqr3fivv@4ax.com> <8238-447F2B1E-232@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>

cuhulin@webtv.net wrote:

> Zenith equals over priced,overated,JUNK.Zenith never built anything that
> was any good.I worked at a Zenith factory in the Shytown area in 1960.
> At zenith,The Name Means Junk,Crap! F..k You,Zenith!!!! JUNK!
> cuhulin

i can get (and keep) a 30 to 50 year old zenith set going with very little
effort. hell, my daily watcher is a 30 year old zenith chromacolor 2. it
has a picture just as good as the high-end shit they sell today. what's
more amaizing is that it still has the original CRT. it has never been
rejuvenated.
cuhulin, you dont know what you are talking about.
-- 
The Shadow Knows


Article: 335284 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Phil...
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 06:42:23 +0900
Message-ID: <e5nmse$om5$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <622u725bs43nr5th6tg8ajetp9qqr3fivv@4ax.com> <8238-447F2B1E-232@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> <4e94hgF1dn2pqU1@individual.net>


"Radio Rambler" <jim@jam.com> wrote in message 
news:4e94hgF1dn2pqU1@individual.net...
> cuhulin@webtv.net wrote:
>
>> Zenith equals over priced,overated,JUNK.Zenith never built anything that
>> was any good.I worked at a Zenith factory in the Shytown area in 1960.
>> At zenith,The Name Means Junk,Crap! F..k You,Zenith!!!! JUNK!
>> cuhulin
>
> i can get (and keep) a 30 to 50 year old zenith set going with very little
> effort. hell, my daily watcher is a 30 year old zenith chromacolor 2. it
> has a picture just as good as the high-end shit they sell today. what's
> more amaizing is that it still has the original CRT. it has never been
> rejuvenated.
> cuhulin, you dont know what you are talking about.
> -- 
> The Shadow Knows

At least it isn't a System 3.. They should have changed their slogan for 
those. "Quality? What Quality?"  I did warranty repairs for those and we got 
probably 10-15% of the ones sold locally in for repairs dead out of the box. 
I agree with you though that the old Zenith stuff was head and shoulders 
above most of the competition. 




Article: 335285 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Well of course it doesn't work DUFUS!
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:18:35 -0600
Message-ID: <17160-447F67BB-1330@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net>
References: <e5nm1v$ohg$1@news2.kornet.net>

Was the guy humming or the radio ?



Article: 335286 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brian Hill" <good@it.net>
References: <1149003373.274035.257890@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <vVZeg.2141$f76.1872@dukeread06> <1149004638.610851.64580@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <447C6E6C.E815D322@earthlink.net> <Jx3fg.23$Z53.21@fe03.lga> <447CE402.A2DFCF9A@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Keepers
Message-ID: <1UJfg.515$gw1.209@fe05.lga>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 17:30:20 -0500


"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message 
news:447CE402.A2DFCF9A@earthlink.net...
> Brian Hill wrote:
>>
>> Hey you guys aren't going to be buried in anything that resembles a 
>> radio,
>> are you? :)
>
>
>   I don't think they let you do that at a Veterans cemetery.
>
>
> -- 
> Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
> prove it.
> Member of DAV #85.
>
> Michael A. Terrell
> Central Florida

I think a vet should be allowed to be buried in anything he wants.

BH 




Article: 335287 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brian Hill" <good@it.net>
References: <1149003373.274035.257890@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <vVZeg.2141$f76.1872@dukeread06> <1149004638.610851.64580@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <447C6E6C.E815D322@earthlink.net> <Jx3fg.23$Z53.21@fe03.lga> <OJmfg.9917$y4.6718@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Keepers
Message-ID: <wUJfg.516$gw1.101@fe05.lga>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 17:30:51 -0500


"robert casey" <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message 
news:OJmfg.9917$y4.6718@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
>>
>> Hey you guys aren't going to be buried in anything that resembles a 
>> radio, are you? :)
>>
>>
> Maybe a tombstone style radio...    :-)

There ya go :)

BH 




Article: 335288 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Lou deGonzague <zenith@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: test
Message-ID: <gtKfg.6081$W97.5158@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 23:10:04 GMT

test


Article: 335289 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Radio Rambler <jim@jam.com>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 20:10:03 -0400
Message-ID: <4e9dutF1djvlkU1@individual.net>
References: <1149024077.251495.188280@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <16028-447D2914-817@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> <e5dq72d9eab0l7r6ai2e51nijvm8mpctpm@4ax.com> <1149078713.720486.113970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <sk8r729vkfo6nhk1pircrq88kjh91638hc@4ax.com> <1149096310.867782.319360@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-3105061542380001@216-80-74-96.d.enteract.com> <ra7s72tvagitnbalu7io5te6t60cvh9781@4ax.com> <1149125312.187785.213740@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4e77dgF1d8aaaU1@individual.net> <1149136516.100516.266590@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <4e8ibpF1ckg0uU1@individual.net> <1149179056.094845.228030@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

Steven wrote:


> 
> They were assembled in San Diego, weren't they?

No, only the wood cabinet was assembled here in the U.S. & the finished
chassis / CRT was installed. that does NOT mean that the set was made in
U.S.A.

> 
> And why the fuck do I care anymore? For some pissant's argument?

Dinius, YOU ARE the pissant.

-- 
The Shadow Knows


Article: 335290 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Radio Rambler <jim@jam.com>
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Phil...
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 20:22:39 -0400
Message-ID: <4e9emgF1do7buU1@individual.net>
References: <622u725bs43nr5th6tg8ajetp9qqr3fivv@4ax.com> <8238-447F2B1E-232@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> <4e94hgF1dn2pqU1@individual.net> <e5nmse$om5$1@news2.kornet.net>

Brenda Ann wrote:

> At least it isn't a System 3.. They should have changed their slogan for
> those. "Quality? What Quality?"  I did warranty repairs for those and we
> got probably 10-15% of the ones sold locally in for repairs dead out of
> the box. I agree with you though that the old Zenith stuff was head and
> shoulders above most of the competition.

yes, i remember the system-3 chassis. that was the beginning of zeniths
downfall.
i really was fond of the Zenith tubed chassis. those were considered the
best
-- 
The Shadow Knows


Article: 335291 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Dial Face Close-up Photo Needed
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:48:37 -0600
Message-ID: <17161-447F8AE5-342@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net>
References: <C4udnc2gxtpGzePZ4p2dnA@comcast.com>

I know the feeling . I think parts are out there but getting in contact
with enough people is impossible .
I have had very hard luck Finding ordinary dial escutcheons for Zenith
or Philco .

I had been looking for a Philco 16B escutcheon all over the internet .
Tonight a friend showed up at my door with one he found local .     



Article: 335292 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 20:13:09 -0500
Message-ID: <18384-447F90A5-1330@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1149186561.645856.136840@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>

I am not a polygamist.What makes you think that?
cuhulin



Article: 335293 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 20:20:38 -0500
Message-ID: <18384-447F9266-1331@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1149186838.027515.91650@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

One of those divorced women who live next door to me was going to get a
new license plate sticker for her car.(1997 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
SL car) But her boyfriend didn't give her enough money.After she paid
her water bill and a couple of other bills,she was short about $10.00
lacking getting her license plate sticker.Since I am not her boyfriend,I
am not going to cover the $10.00 difference.
cuhulin



Article: 335294 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Nelson Gietz" <ngietz@mts.net>
References: <gtKfg.6081$W97.5158@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: test
Message-ID: <mRMfg.11784$aD6.6189@newsfe16.lga>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 20:53:47 -0500


"Lou deGonzague" <zenith@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:gtKfg.6081$W97.5158@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> test

'Bout zero dB here.





Article: 335295 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: How useful is a signal tracer?
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 20:46:49 -0500
Message-ID: <26666-447F9889-1111@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net>
References: <2mlu72lqd83hf368nav50bcu132l99t8q1@4ax.com>

I need to get in my kitchen and rattle those pots and pans.It's past my
suppertime.
cuhulin



Article: 335296 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Gary Tayman" <caradio@verizon.net>
References: <gtKfg.6081$W97.5158@twister.nyroc.rr.com>   <mRMfg.11784$aD6.6189@newsfe16.lga>   <edadnY2w3LNgA-LZRVn-qA@qx.net> <1149214901.473041.59800@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: test
Message-ID: <fCNfg.16324$xO5.12360@trnddc03>
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 02:44:27 GMT

I suggest replacing the caps anyway.



-- 
Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical
Sound Solutions For Classic Cars
http://www.taymanelectrical.com



"Steven" <thisjukeboxplays33rpm@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1149214901.473041.59800@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Theresa McCarty wrote:
>> 5 by 5
>
> Thank God It's Amplitude Modulated. Carrier is looking swell.
> 




Article: 335297 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Phil Witt <w4imm@mindspring.com>
Subject: Michael Terrell - Videotek
Message-ID: <bjav72hsupgq5jleh8gj4f4i1ff9k02lem@4ax.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 22:04:25 -0500

Check the binaries for a couple of pictures, especially the Videotek
monitor made out of a Sony consumer set.

Phil


Article: 335298 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Dial Face Close-up Photo Needed
From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa)
References: <a_ofg.8912$3q2.7609@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <C4udnc2gxtpGzePZ4p2dnA@comcast.com>
Message-ID: <k2Ofg.758845$084.403315@attbi_s22>
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 03:14:24 GMT

In article <C4udnc2gxtpGzePZ4p2dnA@comcast.com>, moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet 
says...
>
>
>If you hang in there, dilligently posting here and the Radio Forum and run
>ads in ARC (with pix only, nobody knows what you need otherwise),  and add a
>permanent search on eBay, you MIGHT find that bezel within a year or two.  I
>mean that seriously.
>
>Mark Oppat
>

Spent 4 years looking for a WG Airline Escutcheon ... first one I found
was attached to a whole radio... so yup I bought the whole radio. Now
at least I knew what the thing looked like that I was looking for! ...
took a couple more years to find one... 

Strange I sold that 2nd radio to another local collector last week who
does his own restorations ... I need to revisit that first one and
clean the controls and get it back up and running again... it was one
of my early restorations.. didn't have DeOxit then ...

That radio is another that stays in my collection ... nice tombstone but 
mostly it stays because of its history and the source of it to me... Old Ham 
and Father of one of my school buddies ... both are gone now...

John k9uwa



Article: 335299 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Dual 6L6 Output in a Table Set
From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa)
References: <127pmotnmtl8bb6@corp.supernews.com> <CdadnSptWY6pzOPZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com>
Message-ID: <25Ofg.1001348$xm3.466998@attbi_s21>
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 03:17:18 GMT

In article <CdadnSptWY6pzOPZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com>, 
moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says...
>
>
>Hey Yonny,  thanks for the lead on this set.  I won it!
>
>Mark Oppat

Amazing!... Terminology that is... "I Won It!" sounds like Mark
won the lottery .... now there.... that would be a luck win.. 

in this case ... correct terminology is... I was willing to pay
more money than anyone else for this old radio!... 

Back to my evening drink... and my nose into the corner!
John k9uwa



Article: 335300 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "oldfogie" <oldfogie@bellsouth.net>
References: <127pr93j2clcka4@corp.supernews.com>   <127ps6sqn7es4fe@corp.supernews.com> <1149039572.793815.89960@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8YudnU-8rZoPNuDZnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@sigecom.net> <_tmdndqQavUXVuDZnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: Did Capehart Make Floor Model Stereos...
Message-ID: <%iOfg.68075$MM6.29775@bignews3.bellsouth.net>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 22:31:51 -0500

They made very good ones in the '50s. I still have a Capehart RP154
Radio/phono I bought new about 1955.
Had great sound, (but mono). Haven't even turned it on in years.
Malcolm B.




Article: 335301 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: test
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 22:35:40 -0500
Message-ID: <26666-447FB20C-1128@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net>
References: <fCNfg.16324$xO5.12360@trnddc03>

I saw it too.
cuhulin



Article: 335302 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Mannyt" <collinscollector45567@yahoo.nosp.om>
References: <Omhdg.8238$Ar6.5318@trnddc02> <xo2dnbJNHtz8cOjZRVn-jg@comcast.com> <127crr7std22n26@corp.supernews.com> <1148618385.034999.39510@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <e577cd$olh$1@reader1.panix.com> <1148665951.755079.63870@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <e57i25$bvh$3@reader1.panix.com> <1148671230.532512.227120@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <e57o5l$dmn$1@reader1.panix.com> <kmjf721prrbatgqpv721g9p32i0vda4it2@4ax.com> <lJ1eg.2295$Oh1.1679@news01.roc.ny> <prgh72dqp6habpsd09nle30th7qrmng5rp@4ax.com> <jbyrns-2805061050180001@216-80-74-228.d.enteract.com> <e5i8np0scg@news1.newsguy.com> <Xns97D43A8C4788noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>
Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [was Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages]
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 00:10:27 -0400
Message-ID: <c20d7$447fbae2$d1cc563a$9495@snip.allthenewsgroups.com>


"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97D43A8C4788noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> "Scott W. Harvey" <NOT_MY_REAL@email.com> wrote in
> news:e5i8np0scg@news1.newsguy.com:
>
> > Maybe that
> > fact will compel congress to keep analog TV around a little longer. I'm
> > not holding my breath, though.
> >
>
> Wait until the public finds out the REAL reason for DTV.....PAY DTV.
>
> Want to watch Monday Night Football on your UHF TV antenna?  Call 1-800-
> FEED-US-MONEY, give the nice lady your credit card and she'll turn on the
> football game through your ADDRESSABLE DTV, right over the air.  Ain't
that
> nice?!
>
> One spam channel of infomercials open to keep the FCC bureaucrats happy.
> 3 pay TV channels to sell with nearly good programs on it.
> or
> 1 WIDESCREEN pay TV channel in HDTV for "just a little more money".
>
> The pay movie comes on Channel 19 at 8PM in HDTV.  Don't forget where
your
> Mastercard is laying.  You're gonna need it.....

It don't bother me one damm bit. I do not have cable or
dish tv as what's on the local fare is bad enough. Utter mindless
claptrap. TV could go bye-bye tomorrow and I'd not miss it
at all. AM and FM radio is all I need. (same goes for Sat radio.
Sirus and XM can go pound crap if they think I'll pay for radio)
When radio goes away there is always shortwave that will
always be there.



Article: 335303 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "William R. Walsh" <newsgroups1@idontwantjunqueemail.walshcomptech.com>
References: <1148989053.597094.122450@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   <vOWeg.15264$Zc7.201995@wagner.videotron.net>   <1148994081.080892.264920@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1149000621.884533.117400@r44g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: collectors` stories
Message-ID: <N4Qfg.758991$084.451205@attbi_s22>
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 05:33:33 GMT

Hi!

> Is life so much more urgent now that we must all be always available
> for constant contact? Does our very existence now demand that we be
> reachable 24 hours, from every point on the globe?

Perhaps so, but at 23 I'm trying to hide. I hate telephones, but it hasn't
always been that way.

As it stands now, I don't answer the phone unless I'm good and feeling like
it. I don't carry a cell phone and probably never will. Despite being in the
field of IT, I don't (and won't ever) have a pager.

I have a cell phone. It's several generations out of date, (it is new enough
to be digital, however) doesn't have a color screen or camera and I've had
it long enough to have put a second battery in it out of necessity. (How
many people can say that?) It sits in my truck (although I can't find it
now) and waits should I ever have a roadside emergency. I've never had to
use it for that purpose. The longest I've ever spoken on it was about 15
minutes, and only because a storm took down the hardwired phone lines.

> Damn phones.

I've said this before..in fact, I just got done saying it above.

http://greyghost.dyndns.org/phonerant.htm

What hasn't been added to that "rant" is my recent purchase of a home. I
seriously question whether or not I'll have any phone at all. The only
reason I'd want one is to sync the odd old computer in my computers
collection to the NIST clock over a modem. Most have network cards,
however...and TCP/IP stacks available...

(And no. I really, really, really, really, really don't care to hear any
argument about what I said in the rant link above with regard to cell
phones.)

William




Article: 335304 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Clive" <cashaw@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 09:30:05 +0200
Message-ID: <e5opds$dq8$1@news.al.sw.ericsson.se>
References: <odqdnWKpLpL5RenZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com>   <OF8dg.8177$Ar6.1798@trnddc02>   <OYWdna3bb8mJo-jZRVn-qQ@giganews.com>   <Omhdg.8238$Ar6.5318@trnddc02>   <xo2dnbJNHtz8cOjZRVn-jg@comcast.com>   <127crr7std22n26@corp.supernews.com>   <1148618385.034999.39510@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   <e577cd$olh$1@reader1.panix.com>   <slrne7fejp.bqe.rogblake10@moog.netaxs.com> <1148699238.991832.208240@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44784f99$0$31654$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>


<maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl> wrote in message
news:44784f99$0$31654$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
> System A had 405 lines. Most wide-screen transmissions in Europe nowadays
> don't have any more visible lines than the old system A. By far the
> superior system was the French system E, having 819 lines and 14MHz
> channel width (11.15MHz between the video carrier and the audio carrier).
> Unfortunately this was a short lived system, I think it was abandoned even
> before the transition to colour TV. Had it not been abandoned, we could
> have named it "Analogue HDTV".
>
>

Indeed the horizontal resolution on 405 lines was greater then that on 625
lines. Proper black level clamping giving lovely crisp pictures, though
liable to interference. Indeed when 625 lines was introduced into the UK in
1964, many people were put off from investing in it as many perceived the
405 line picture to look better.

I think the French 819 lines system lasted from around 1950 into the
mid-70's. Secam Colour tests were indeed tried out on 819 lines but the
sheer bandwith required would have meant only one national channel within
the existing frequency bands. The pictures from 819 lines were though very
smeary.....




Article: 335305 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Phil Witt <w4imm@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Michael Terrell - Videotek
Message-ID: <bac082dc9tujp7ofq8n5lql03dhupffmfb@4ax.com>
References: <bjav72hsupgq5jleh8gj4f4i1ff9k02lem@4ax.com> <447FAD7A.D7DEBA19@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 07:41:48 -0500

On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 03:16:09 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Phil Witt wrote:
>> 
>> Check the binaries for a couple of pictures, especially the Videotek
>> monitor made out of a Sony consumer set.
>> 
>> Phil
>
>
>   Thanks, that is what I remember using.  Are those Tektronix 528 or
>529 waveform monitors?

The CCUs are for  IVC 500s . The WFMs are 528s.


Article: 335306 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Phil Witt <w4imm@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Michael Terrell - Videotek
Message-ID: <lic082dt11d6g1uj6jvpickaheh9503lr4@4ax.com>
References: <bjav72hsupgq5jleh8gj4f4i1ff9k02lem@4ax.com> <l46dnd7PTbjQsh3ZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com>
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 07:43:46 -0500

On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 07:28:12 -0500, Bill Cohn <billcohn1.comcast.net>
wrote:

>Phil Witt wrote:
>> Check the binaries for a couple of pictures, especially the Videotek
>> monitor made out of a Sony consumer set.
>> 
>> Phil
>
>Interesting photo Phil. The TV below the Videotek monitor is a Zenith 
>12" Black and White set I helped design in 1974. The waveform monitors 
>look like Tektronix 528s. Since I worked at Zenith and Tektronix and now 
>Videotek it is old home week.
>
>Bill Cohn - N9MHT

Videotek has come a long way since those monitors.


Article: 335307 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Did Capehart Make Floor Model Stereos...
From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa)
References: <127pr93j2clcka4@corp.supernews.com>
Message-ID: <PCWfg.1002002$xm3.390822@attbi_s21>
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 12:59:27 GMT

In article <127pr93j2clcka4@corp.supernews.com>, yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net 
says...
>
>
>...in the