Article: 340129 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Engineer" Subject: As advertized ! Date: 19 Aug 2006 10:58:59 -0700 Message-ID: <1156010339.209509.280500@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Modified just a little" !!! http://cgi.ebay.ca/BEAUTIFUL-FA-11-WESTINGHOUSE-30-S-RADIO-WORKING_W0QQitemZ150021776843QQihZ005QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Not mine, I assure you! Cheers, Roger Article: 340130 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: HOW ARE THE DIAL COVERS GOING? Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:58:32 -0500 Message-ID: <6081-44E75148-158@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: www.dialcover.com What's the problem? Always works A OK for me. cuhulin Article: 340131 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I pinged it, it panned it Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:56:01 -0500 Message-ID: <6082-44E750B1-26@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: IIIIIII painter herrr,,,,,, IIIIIII painted herrrrrrr,,,,,,,, up the hickory and down the pine,,,, her little britches are split behind,,,,,,,,, IIIIIIII painted herrrrr,,,,,,,,, cuhulin Article: 340132 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: As advertized ! References: <1156010339.209509.280500@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:10:14 -0400 He just doesn't get it!!! Clueless. Ken Engineer wrote: > "Modified just a little" !!! > > http://cgi.ebay.ca/BEAUTIFUL-FA-11-WESTINGHOUSE-30-S-RADIO-WORKING_W0QQitemZ150021776843QQihZ005QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Not mine, I assure you! > Cheers, > Roger > Article: 340133 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: GE P780E Transistor Set Date: 19 Aug 2006 18:16:40 GMT Message-ID: References: <1155957141.786906.158280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "jim menning" (jmenningSPAM@new.rr.com) writes: > They are often referred to as a forerunner to the superadio, but that's probably just > because they were GE products that were sensitive, selective, and had a good audio > amp and large speaker. I don't think the "superadio" marketing concept was thought > of when the high-performance P780s were released some 20 years earlier. > And of course the actual "Superradios" were in relation to the common portables that came later. There isn't that much super about them, beyond maybe an extra stage and that better speaker, but at least they were better than most when they came along, transistor portables devolving to cheap and just enough design to get the local stations. I suspect in the early days of transistors (problems of design due to unfamiliarity with transistors aside), they tended to be better radios simply because they weren't seen as disposable. If you were paying a significant amount of money for one, you'd expect decent performance. I look at that early Sony that I found in the garbage outside a repair place a few years back, and it has a metal chassis, a big speaker, and it's heavy. You don't get that for peanuts, and they aren't likely to have put money into all that without concern for performance. Michael Article: 340134 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Mills" References: <44ednQtVHNHxM3nZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@trueband.net> Subject: Re: Stromberg dial scale help needed Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:41:46 -0400 Message-ID: Thanks Ken! I emailed the web owner about getting a copy. Tom > One of these? > http://images.google.com/images?q=Stromberg+Carlson+430M+&hl=en > > Ken D. > >> I'm looking for a Stromberg Carlson 430M dial scale scan. I have one >> that >> the glass is broken and one half missing. I could post a picture on >> binaries if needed? Any help will be greatly appreciated. >> -- >> Tom Mills >> >> > > Article: 340135 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: No Radios @ the Flea... Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:36:57 -0400 Message-ID: <12eeq2rh3re8990@corp.supernews.com> ...but I got 4 of these, 3 of which work. They came in a carton dated 1944 and marked clearly "DOD Blackout Bulbs" with contract numbers etc. from Sparks Worthington, not GE though this GE bulb box is inside- http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230018096749&fromMakeTrack=true Also I got a pair of these batteries in better shape for my wood wall phone- http://cgi.ebay.com/WESTERN-ELECTRIC-BLUE-BELL-BATTERY-FOR-PHONE-SERVICE_W0QQitemZ300016686050 John H. Article: 340136 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1156002542.915102.325860@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Realistic: Phonograph needle replacement? Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:43:04 -0700 Message-ID: Have you searched the RatShack site? Article: 340137 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:00:25 -0500 Message-ID: <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Hagstar" wrote in message news:12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com... > Do I detect a note of sarcasm? Fine then- the Commander's brainwashing > has endured nearly a century. Never have so many coveted so little so > much. Commander, schomander. If I wanted to listen to Yurgi Ivanovich broadcasting >from a spark transmitter in Outer Elbonia I'd do it right and go buy a Collins instead of thinking that a walnut refrigerator with an extra IF stage is going to get me there. I don't listen to my radios all the time but my wife and I have to look at the dumb things every single day, and given that I'd damn well better like the view. Every radio I own picks up WTMJ and my two-tube transmitter just fine. :-D All kidding (?) aside I make a poor excuse for a Zenith evangelist. I happen to like some of the cabinets' styling (not necessarily the dials) but I don't go out of my way or budget to buy them; like everything else I own they got here because they just happened to land at the intersection of opportunity, value and potential enjoyment so religious arguments just kind of strike me as silly. I buy what I like. (OT - IMO those blackout bulbs are cool. Nice find. :) -p. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 340138 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: HOW ARE THE DIAL COVERS GOING? Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:00:23 -0500 Message-ID: <9464-44E77BE7-235@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1155883645.642649.161200@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> y'all might not know it (excuse me while I blush) but there are some wild webtvers out there.I have seen them before. cuhulin Article: 340139 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1155883645.642649.161200@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <9464-44E77BE7-235@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: HOW ARE THE DIAL COVERS GOING? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:45:12 GMT wrote in message > while I blush) but there are some > wild webtvers out there.I have seen them before. > I can't imagine why. Ron Article: 340140 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" Subject: Recap trouble Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:52:26 GMT I'm recapping a Marelli from the 1937, there is a paper cap, a sort of doorknob, 4uF and it's located between ground and the oscillator group. Looking at the schematic i was thinking it's a 1uF until i read the label.. 4uF! The cap shows a resistance of 0.5Mohms to ground, 0.7Mohms from ground.Should i replace it?? This is a paper cap so the ESR meter results may not be correct (even if it says is good). I've no paper caps of that 'size', may i replace it with an electrolityc, or, is there a value that i can place with not damage? (Any opinion about using that kid of doorknob is welcome, i'm still trying to understand why a so big cap there...) Picture here: http://WWW.JUNKRADIOS.COM/PUBLIC/RF_ALCOR.GIF Thanks, -- Daniele http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 340141 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: Subject: Re: Recap trouble Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:55:21 GMT ....forgot to mention... i have another ESR meter for sale i bought some for better pricing. Ask for images/data. -- Daniele http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 340142 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: GE P780E Transistor Set Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 07:06:55 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1155957141.786906.158280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155993907.332178.182200@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! "jim menning" wrote in message news:ubJFg.39522$Nt2.15700@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "RadioGary" wrote in message > news:1155993907.332178.182200@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... >> >> The owner informed me also he has an AC supply for this set he'll give >> me as well. That could be a good thing considering six D cells cannot >> last forever. :) >> >> > > From: > http://www.radiolabs.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=64&sid=1ff42ca24521d48d42a4d0d79fb8733a > > "The GE P780 series of the late 50's to early 60's is THE best sounding > portable I have heard. It's developed a special following. On 6 D cells of > the late 50's it had a battery life between 500 and 750 hours." And those were only carbon-zinc cells.... Article: 340143 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "flashbk13" Subject: Re: crt tester advice Date: 19 Aug 2006 15:28:11 -0700 Message-ID: <1156026491.654200.85180@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1155813746.926998.48790@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Thanks Scott for the info., Rick. Article: 340144 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Do you think this Zenith is worth that much? Date: 19 Aug 2006 15:29:26 -0700 Message-ID: <1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Here you go. http://cgi.ebay.com/VERY-RARE-1930-s-Zenith-5-R-226A-childs-console-radio_W0QQitemZ270020287712QQihZ017QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I saw this set at a Hamfest in the Chicago area which went for alot less. I'm just wondering if the seller is out of his mind or what? And in this condition? Yeek!! Article: 340145 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Recap trouble References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:04:34 -0400 I've always seen large caps there, for osc stability I assume. Ken Daniele wrote: > I'm recapping a Marelli from the 1937, > there is a paper cap, a sort of doorknob, > 4uF and it's located between ground and the > oscillator group. Looking at the schematic > i was thinking it's a 1uF until i read the label.. 4uF! > The cap shows a resistance of 0.5Mohms to ground, > 0.7Mohms from ground.Should i replace it?? > This is a paper cap so the ESR meter results may not be > correct (even if it says is good). > I've no paper caps of that 'size', may i replace it > with an electrolityc, or, is there a value that i can place > with not damage? > (Any opinion about using that kid of doorknob is welcome, > i'm still trying to understand why a so big cap there...) > Picture here: > http://WWW.JUNKRADIOS.COM/PUBLIC/RF_ALCOR.GIF > Thanks, > Article: 340146 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Do you think this Zenith is worth that much? References: <1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:05:48 -0400 Another clueless seller. Ken RadioGary wrote: > Here you go. > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/VERY-RARE-1930-s-Zenith-5-R-226A-childs-console-radio_W0QQitemZ270020287712QQihZ017QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > I saw this set at a Hamfest in the Chicago area which went for alot > less. I'm just wondering if the seller is out of his mind or what? > And in this condition? Yeek!! > Article: 340147 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Do you think this Zenith is worth that much? Message-ID: <_4NFg.40604$Nt2.25112@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:24:42 GMT "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Here you go. > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/VERY-RARE-1930-s-Zenith-5-R-226A-childs-console-radio_W0QQitemZ270020287712QQihZ017QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > I saw this set at a Hamfest in the Chicago area which went for alot > less. I'm just wondering if the seller is out of his mind or what? > And in this condition? Yeek!! > What was the one at the hamfest priced at? It may have been a very good deal. The eBay one looks rough, but it is a very hard to find set. http://www.tubularradio.com/cc.html http://www.oldradiozone.com/z5r226.html jim menning Article: 340148 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: Subject: Re: Recap trouble Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:16:37 GMT "Ken" > I've always seen large caps there, for osc stability I assume. Ken Me too, but usually an 8uF electrolytic or, sometimes, a paper 0.25 uF... i've never seen a 4uF paper here.. that's why i'm waiting a bit before replacing it.. I was also thinking... may be that paper was cheaper that putting an electrolityc? -- Daniele http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 340149 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Realistic: Phonograph needle replacement? Date: 19 Aug 2006 17:23:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1156033398.731769.179260@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156002542.915102.325860@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> William Sommerwerck wrote: > Have you searched the RatShack site? If they don't have it, Ed Saunders is another great place to try/ Article: 340150 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Black Dial and bluebird UPDATE Date: 19 Aug 2006 17:26:51 -0700 Message-ID: <1156033611.773127.175680@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1153952283.300964.3230@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I got the shipping notice and tracking information today! We'll soon see what shape it's in... Article: 340151 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: No Radios @ the Flea... Date: 19 Aug 2006 17:28:42 -0700 Message-ID: <1156033722.513227.320900@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <12eeq2rh3re8990@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > ...but I got 4 of these, 3 of which work. They came in a carton dated 1944 > and marked clearly "DOD Blackout Bulbs" with contract numbers etc. > from Sparks Worthington, not GE though this GE bulb box is inside- > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230018096749&fromMakeTrack=true > > Also I got a pair of these batteries in better shape for my wood wall phone- > > http://cgi.ebay.com/WESTERN-ELECTRIC-BLUE-BELL-BATTERY-FOR-PHONE-SERVICE_W0QQitemZ300016686050 > > John H. Marvelous! But did you get any fleas? Article: 340152 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: 19 Aug 2006 17:33:34 -0700 Message-ID: <1156034014.627590.164750@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > "Tim Mullen" wrote in message > news:ec60fd$rpq$1@reader2.panix.com... > > > > > John, how can you tell? I zoomed in on the eye, but couldn't tell > > one way or the other. > > I get it now- WHO KNOWS if it is STILL a 6T5 in there is what you're saying, > and if it is any good if there. I wasn't talking about that though, I'm > giving credit to the designer who used such a cool eye tube. It does > reinforce Peter's point that they were making a real effort on whiz-bang > appearance here. > > I assume everything is bad on a set I realize now. I also have a 6T5 and no > current set in which it came original equipment so I wouldn't worry. > > John H. i know somebody that has a couple of '38 shutterdials........... Article: 340153 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: Do you think this Zenith is worth that much? Date: 19 Aug 2006 17:42:29 -0700 Message-ID: <1156034549.296401.121380@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> JM, This was the one at the Hamfest, it's identical in every detail, including missing parts and damage. When I looked at the set the gent selling it had a price tag of seventy five dollars on it. I was tempted, but considering the stuff wrong with it I WIMPED out on it, and now am sorry I did. It sure is a beauty restored. I just bought a cube on Ebay BTW. Only thing missing is one of the wooden feet, so I may be searching for a scavenged set if I persue this project. GB jim menning wrote: > "RadioGary" wrote in message > news:1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > > > Here you go. > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/VERY-RARE-1930-s-Zenith-5-R-226A-childs-console-radio_W0QQitemZ270020287712QQihZ017QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > > > I saw this set at a Hamfest in the Chicago area which went for alot > > less. I'm just wondering if the seller is out of his mind or what? > > And in this condition? Yeek!! > > > > > What was the one at the hamfest priced at? It may have been a very good deal. > > The eBay one looks rough, but it is a very hard to find set. > > http://www.tubularradio.com/cc.html > > http://www.oldradiozone.com/z5r226.html > > jim menning Article: 340154 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Recap trouble Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:49:28 GMT There are a few things I still don't know, like what is the working voltage? Also, is this a power supply? The schematic doesn't show the source or destination. I would think a modern electrolytic or tantalum would be closer to spec than the original cap, even when it was new. What I don't know is what to use for a working voltage, or whether the voltage is always positive or if you need a non-polarized type. But yes, paper is scary, and I would replace it. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Daniele" wrote in message news:uKLFg.75759$zy5.1360747@twister1.libero.it... > I'm recapping a Marelli from the 1937, > there is a paper cap, a sort of doorknob, > 4uF and it's located between ground and the > oscillator group. Looking at the schematic > i was thinking it's a 1uF until i read the label.. 4uF! > The cap shows a resistance of 0.5Mohms to ground, > 0.7Mohms from ground.Should i replace it?? > This is a paper cap so the ESR meter results may not be > correct (even if it says is good). > I've no paper caps of that 'size', may i replace it > with an electrolityc, or, is there a value that i can place > with not damage? > (Any opinion about using that kid of doorknob is welcome, > i'm still trying to understand why a so big cap there...) > Picture here: > http://WWW.JUNKRADIOS.COM/PUBLIC/RF_ALCOR.GIF > Thanks, > > -- > Daniele > http://www.tuberadio.it > > Article: 340155 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Do you think this Zenith is worth that much? Date: 19 Aug 2006 17:49:43 -0700 Message-ID: <1156034983.095667.100800@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> RadioGary wrote: > JM, > > This was the one at the Hamfest, it's identical in every detail, > including missing parts and damage. When I looked at the set the gent > selling it had a price tag of seventy five dollars on it. I was > tempted, but considering the stuff wrong with it I WIMPED out on it, > and now am sorry I did. It sure is a beauty restored. > > I just bought a cube on Ebay BTW. Only thing missing is one of the > wooden feet, so I may be searching for a scavenged set if I persue this > project. > > GB It would meake sense to ask one of the Zenith "regulars" around here... Put a Wanted (WTB, Trade etc.) thread up if you don't get a response soon. Article: 340156 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: 19 Aug 2006 17:54:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1156035241.643264.192490@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> Paul Dietenberger wrote: > "Hagstar" wrote in message > news:12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com... > > > Do I detect a note of sarcasm? Fine then- the Commander's brainwashing > > has endured nearly a century. Never have so many coveted so little so > > much. > > Commander, schomander. If I wanted to listen to Yurgi Ivanovich broadcasting > from a spark transmitter in Outer Elbonia I'd do it right and go buy a > Collins instead of thinking that a walnut refrigerator with an extra IF > stage is going to get me there. I don't listen to my radios all the time but > my wife and I have to look at the dumb things every single day, and given > that I'd damn well better like the view. Every radio I own picks up WTMJ and > my two-tube transmitter just fine. The Elbonians are fighting a rare non-Muslim insurgency, perhaps you should see if your setup will find their freedom radio transmissions. > :-D > > All kidding (?) aside I make a poor excuse for a Zenith evangelist. I happen > to like some of the cabinets' styling (not necessarily the dials) but I > don't go out of my way or budget to buy them; like everything else I own > they got here because they just happened to land at the intersection of > opportunity, value and potential enjoyment so religious arguments just kind > of strike me as silly. I buy what I like. > > (OT - IMO those blackout bulbs are cool. Nice find. :) Article: 340157 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: 19 Aug 2006 17:56:14 -0700 Message-ID: <1156035374.858070.24080@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> Eddie Brimer wrote: > Hagstar wrote: > > "Tim Mullen" wrote in message > > news:ec60fd$rpq$1@reader2.panix.com... > > > > > > > > John, how can you tell? I zoomed in on the eye, but couldn't tell > > > one way or the other. > > > > I get it now- WHO KNOWS if it is STILL a 6T5 in there is what you're saying, > > and if it is any good if there. I wasn't talking about that though, I'm > > giving credit to the designer who used such a cool eye tube. It does > > reinforce Peter's point that they were making a real effort on whiz-bang > > appearance here. > > > > I assume everything is bad on a set I realize now. I also have a 6T5 and no > > current set in which it came original equipment so I wouldn't worry. > > > > John H. > > i know somebody that has a couple of '38 shutterdials........... That beats colored contact lenses. Article: 340158 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1155957141.786906.158280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155993907.332178.182200@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: GE P780E Transistor Set Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:16:54 -0700 Message-ID: >> The GE P780 series of the late 50's to early 60's is THE >> best-sounding portable I have heard. It's developed a >> special following. On 6 D cells of the late 50's it had >> a battery life between 500 and 750 hours. > And those were only carbon-zinc cells... Back in the '50s, Popular Science ran a construction article for a home-brew transistor radio that ran on 6 D cells, with a claimed battery life of 500 to 1000 hours. Article: 340159 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "PTurney" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: 19 Aug 2006 18:17:43 -0700 Message-ID: <1156036663.697376.40890@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > "Peter Wieck" wrote in message > news:1155905116.473450.111830@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > You must be getting grumpy in your old age... > > Wrong. A fifteen tube radio should have a 2nd IF stage. It could have THREE > with that many tubes, easily. My 9 tube including eye Stromberg 140L has 2 > IF stages, so does the 10 tube Am. Bosch 595, 11 tube Philco 116- shall I go > on? This is a nine tube set with a big audio/power section. > > John H. Hi John, I've always felt that Zenith padded out their tube count. Even many of their 6-tubers are really no more than 5, since they often used a 6H6 and 6F5G or 6J5G when a single 6Q7G could have been used - and was in many other manufacturer's 5-tube sets. See the 6-S-222 as an example http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/207/M0025207.pdf ) Compare that Zenith 15-tube set with a Philco 37-116 (also 15 tubes) and yes, the Zenith booms away with overpowering bass, but otherwise there's no comparison. Paul Article: 340160 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: GE P780E Transistor Set Date: 19 Aug 2006 18:26:46 -0700 Message-ID: <1156037205.962631.85210@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1155957141.786906.158280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Michael Black wrote: > "jim menning" (jmenningSPAM@new.rr.com) writes: > > > They are often referred to as a forerunner to the superadio, but that's probably just > > because they were GE products that were sensitive, selective, and had a good audio > > amp and large speaker. I don't think the "superadio" marketing concept was thought > > of when the high-performance P780s were released some 20 years earlier. > > > And of course the actual "Superradios" were in relation to the common > portables that came later. There isn't that much super about them, beyond > maybe an extra stage and that better speaker, but at least they were > better than most when they came along, transistor portables devolving > to cheap and just enough design to get the local stations. > > I suspect in the early days of transistors (problems of design due > to unfamiliarity with transistors aside), they tended to be better > radios simply because they weren't seen as disposable. If you were > paying a significant amount of money for one, you'd expect decent > performance. > > I look at that early Sony that I found in the garbage outside > a repair place a few years back, and it has a metal chassis, a big > speaker, and it's heavy. You don't get that for peanuts, and they > aren't likely to have put money into all that without concern for > performance. Biggest problem was they were expensive, transistors were horribly so in the earliest days, and so you saved or hoped to get cosmetically flawed, as I understand. This went away after some time, still transistor sets weren't cheap vs. a good tube portable, so they cut here, there to tout them as "pocket radios" and they were neat and sold in the tons but tanked most people's image of what solid state could be. The FCC has finished the quality ruining job by packing the band tightly for 40 years and unless you have a tube set of a really good older stereo receiver or tuner, you may not know what good AM is really like and that it's worthwhile. Article: 340161 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Phipps" Subject: Re: Kansas City Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:26:54 -0500 Message-ID: <12efeiv1mlu350b@corp.supernews.com> References: If you're looking for old radios / electronics around KC you might search the two big weekend swap meets around town... Boulevard Drive In at 10th & Merriam Lane in KCK and 63rd Street Drive In at 63rd & I-435 in KCMO. You never know what will show up in terms of antique electronics. Also the big flea markets at Truman Corners Shopping Center in Grandview and the Brass Armadillo in Blue Springs / Grain Valley have a few nice surprises now and then... Steve P. "OzRadio" wrote in message news:ZX7Fg.16110$o27.9625@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... > Are there any places in the Kansas City metro area that sell vintage > electronics and parts? > Ryan > > > --------------= Posted using GrabIt =---------------- > ------= Binary Usenet downloading made easy =--------- > -= Get GrabIt for free from http://www.shemes.com/ =- > Article: 340162 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1155957141.786906.158280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156037205.962631.85210@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: GE P780E Transistor Set Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:34:14 -0700 Message-ID: > The FCC has finished the quality ruining job by packing > the band tightly for 40 years and unless you have a tube > set of a really good older stereo receiver or tuner, you may > not know what good AM is really like and that it's worthwhile. Stereo AM can be awfully good. If you don't know, you might very well think you're listening to stereo FM. Article: 340163 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Cartrivision1" Subject: What decade do you think this console set is from? Date: 19 Aug 2006 19:00:48 -0700 Message-ID: <1156039248.049887.145990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Hi, I put a radio on Ebay this afternoon and wondered if it was in the right category? I listed it in the "1930 - 1949 Tube Radios". At first I thought it might date from the 20's, but then I saw a similar set listed on the completed auctions that was in the 30's - 40's category. Here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140020763175&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=004 Also, do you think this is worth anything to a collector? Not knowing it's value I started the bidding very low. I noticed some other consoles from that era that still had no bids on them so I don't know what the market is for these kinds of things. I would be more than happy to keep it but I already have a Crosley replica console in my living room and don't need two. thanks, CTV Article: 340164 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:59:22 -0400 Message-ID: Of course, if you want a nice console radio with REAL guts in it, you have to get an upper end Philco, Stromberg-Carlson , RCA or GE... or even a Midwest. Spending bigger money, you'd go McMurdo-Silver or Scott. Even the Wells-Gardner made Airline/Truetone/etc or Colonial made Silvertones will outdo most Zenths I think, tube for tube, in the '36-'42 era allwave sets. Those 11, 13 and 19 tube 1937era Admiral/Camden/etc sets by Consolidated Radio are nice too (big oval dials). Mark Oppat "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com... > "Hagstar" wrote in message > news:12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com... > > > Do I detect a note of sarcasm? Fine then- the Commander's brainwashing > > has endured nearly a century. Never have so many coveted so little so > > much. > > Commander, schomander. If I wanted to listen to Yurgi Ivanovich broadcasting > from a spark transmitter in Outer Elbonia I'd do it right and go buy a > Collins instead of thinking that a walnut refrigerator with an extra IF > stage is going to get me there. I don't listen to my radios all the time but > my wife and I have to look at the dumb things every single day, and given > that I'd damn well better like the view. Every radio I own picks up WTMJ and > my two-tube transmitter just fine. > > :-D > > All kidding (?) aside I make a poor excuse for a Zenith evangelist. I happen > to like some of the cabinets' styling (not necessarily the dials) but I > don't go out of my way or budget to buy them; like everything else I own > they got here because they just happened to land at the intersection of > opportunity, value and potential enjoyment so religious arguments just kind > of strike me as silly. I buy what I like. > > (OT - IMO those blackout bulbs are cool. Nice find. :) > > -p. > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > > Article: 340165 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <_4NFg.40604$Nt2.25112@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1156034549.296401.121380@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Do you think this Zenith is worth that much? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:38:02 GMT "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1156034549.296401.121380@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > This was the one at the Hamfest, it's identical in every detail, > including missing parts and damage. When I looked at the set the gent > selling it had a price tag of seventy five dollars on it. I was > tempted, but considering the stuff wrong with it I WIMPED out on it, > and now am sorry I did. It sure is a beauty restored. > I doubt anybody will jump at it with a $500 starting bid, but if the seller relists later at a more realistic starting point, he may do fairly well. I'm curious how you found the auction and posted so quick about it. Do you know the seller? It seems strange that you found the auction and posted about it here, only 13 minutes after it was listed on eBay. Item was listed at 5:16:16 Central time, you posted about it here at 5:29 Central time. Generally newly listed items will not turn up in an eBay search for the first few hours. Sounds like you know the eBay seller and are trying to give him a little free advertising. I hope not. http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&since=30&userid=country-lane-antiques&include=0&rows=200&sort=8&completed=1 > I just bought a cube on Ebay BTW. Only thing missing is one of the > wooden feet, so I may be searching for a scavenged set if I persue this > project. > 5R216. They are cute little radios. If you have no luck here, try at the antique radio forum want ads making sure you put the model number in the header line. By the way, I see you're back to checking seller reserves and retracting your bids on eBay again. http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=120020505471 Naughty! Funny how you typed in $155 when you meant to type in $88. Your keyboard must have malfunctioned, those numbers aren't even close to each other! ;o) jim menning Article: 340166 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Do you think this Zenith is worth that much? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:40:52 GMT In article <1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, n9vu@yahoo.com says... > > >Here you go. > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/VERY-RARE-1930-s-Zenith-5-R-226A-childs-console-radio_W0Q QitemZ270020287712QQihZ017QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > >I saw this set at a Hamfest in the Chicago area which went for alot >less. I'm just wondering if the seller is out of his mind or what? >And in this condition? Yeek!! > Don't be fooled here... that seller is NOT the unwashed... he knows radios.. sells a fair share of them on ebay... I think the guy is a little nutso .. see previous threads from Hagster and myself and others about How to Sell And Succeed on Ebay Auctions... with his off the wall starting bid.... but yes... the ending bid should be someplace in the area of the start bid.... and Gary... yup you passed up a chance to have a nice rare one at a super price... wouldn't be a big deal to make a new crossbrace for the backside of that cabinet.. dunno is it will get a bid or not at 500 bucks... would most likely hit 500 if he had started it at 50 bucks no reserve... John k9uwa Article: 340167 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Recap trouble From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:53:11 GMT In article , dast@tuberadio.it says... > > >I'm recapping a Marelli from the 1937, >http://WWW.JUNKRADIOS.COM/PUBLIC/RF_ALCOR.GIF >-- > Daniele my guess is that since its 700K above ground at that point and looking at the partial schematic that its the screen grid or as Danielle said... the OSC Grid voltage thats present at this location... 150 volts maybe... I also think that a 4.7 Mfd Electrolitic will work excellent at that location. I have seen several in similar positions like Ken said in US radios.. 10 Mfd and 5 Mfd .. sometimes they in the US radios have a direct in parallel .25 Mfd paper along with the 5 Mfd litic... so yes Danielle think I would put a 5 Mfd Litic in there... and another paper .25 won't hurt and might help.. John k9uwa Article: 340168 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Stromberg dial scale help needed From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <44ednQtVHNHxM3nZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@trueband.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:01:37 GMT In article , kensoldradiorepair@yahoo.com says... > > >One of these? >http://images.google.com/images?q=Stromberg+Carlson+430M+&hl=en > >Ken D. Am sure that Mike Feldt will be happy to help you out here... boy thats one neat portion of Mike's website!... John k9uwa Article: 340169 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: What decade do you think this console set is from? Date: 19 Aug 2006 20:02:48 -0700 Message-ID: <1156042968.322082.143820@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1156039248.049887.145990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Cartrivision1 wrote: > Hi, I put a radio on Ebay this afternoon and wondered if it was in the > right category? I listed it in the "1930 - 1949 Tube Radios". At > first I thought it might date from the 20's, but then I saw a similar > set listed on the completed auctions that was in the 30's - 40's > category. Here is the link: > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140020763175&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=004 > > Also, do you think this is worth anything to a collector? Not knowing > it's value I started the bidding very low. I noticed some other > consoles from that era that still had no bids on them so I don't know > what the market is for these kinds of things. I would be more than > happy to keep it but I already have a Crosley replica console in my > living room and don't need two. > > > thanks, > CTV If it's missing anything, it's probably an 80. Don'tknow why they have it marked 83V. 83V will probably work, however. The radio is 1929/30 or so. Category doesn't matter much. People search different categories with different key words. Why keep a replica when you can have the real thing? Personal preference, I guess. The market will decide who buys it for how much. Personally, I doubt there will be much collector interest. It's a common TRF chassis with push-pull 45 outputs. If the 45s are good, they might be worth more than the rest of the radio. Article: 340170 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: What decade do you think this console set is from? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1156039248.049887.145990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:32:52 GMT In article <1156039248.049887.145990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, doidy1@juno.com says... > > There was one on from Canada a couple of times... but that guy was trying to sell his radio on ebay rather than auctioning it as you are.... one of my books lists a model 54 as 1929 radio... it lists price as around $200 ... ornate carved front 8 tubes ... yours is a nice looking radio and should do well in the auction.. only drawback to console on ebay is shipping them... so expensive that your actual bidding audience is locals and people close enough to drive and pick it up.... or else the price suffers by the amount of the shipping cost.. you CAN add a 2nd category ... 1920's and leave it in the 30's section for about 50 cents added to your listing price... good luck... nice radio... John k9uwa >Hi, I put a radio on Ebay this afternoon and wondered if it was in the >right category? I listed it in the "1930 - 1949 Tube Radios". At >first I thought it might date from the 20's, but then I saw a similar >set listed on the completed auctions that was in the 30's - 40's >category. Here is the link: > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140020763175&ssPageNa me=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=004 > >Also, do you think this is worth anything to a collector? Not knowing >it's value I started the bidding very low. I noticed some other >consoles from that era that still had no bids on them so I don't know >what the market is for these kinds of things. I would be more than >happy to keep it but I already have a Crosley replica console in my >living room and don't need two. > > >thanks, >CTV > Article: 340171 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: James Sweet Subject: Re: Do you think this Zenith is worth that much? References: <1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 04:05:01 GMT RadioGary wrote: > Here you go. > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/VERY-RARE-1930-s-Zenith-5-R-226A-childs-console-radio_W0QQitemZ270020287712QQihZ017QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > I saw this set at a Hamfest in the Chicago area which went for alot > less. I'm just wondering if the seller is out of his mind or what? > And in this condition? Yeek!! > No way in hell it'll get bites with an opening bid like that, I learned long ago to start my auctions at a buck, they go far higher than if I start them at what I'd like to get. That said, I personally probably wouldn't pay more than about a hundred bucks for that thing, so maybe it's super rare, but it's not the most attractive radio I've seen, one could do far better for that sort of money unless they simply want the rarity. Article: 340172 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Crosley 516(radio from hell) From: Paul Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 04:07:49 GMT I think I found the problem I was having with my Crosley 516, after checking the schematic and my wiring after re-capping, and the old caps I took out, I noticed that one of the 2 in one caps i replaced has written on it that ground is at one end , all the others say lug is common, so I think I have things wired wrong with the 11z,y cap. I should have been looking at things more closely when I was re-capping it I guess, anyway I'll let you know how I make out when I correct things, thanks for the help so far! Paul Article: 340173 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David" Subject: OT XM 40's channel Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:36:12 -0400 Message-ID: Last night I was working on a 50s phono and listening to XM channel that plays 40's music.(The FM modulator is so strong I can pick it up on any FM radio in my house.) Aparantly, this weekend they are playing hit tunes from each year going back to 1930. For the first time ever, I heard the Paul Whiteman version of Smoke Gets In Your Eyes. What a great tune his version is. It goes to show a good tune can play with no vocal or just a vocal refrain. Whoever did the arrangements should have been paid double. That sub tone clarinet is haunting. Now to find the record.. Might be hard. 1933-1934 not too many records were sold... Article: 340174 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Do you think this Zenith is worth that much? Date: 19 Aug 2006 22:19:36 -0700 Message-ID: <1156051176.584470.295030@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> jim menning wrote: > "RadioGary" wrote in message > news:1156034549.296401.121380@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > > > This was the one at the Hamfest, it's identical in every detail, > > including missing parts and damage. When I looked at the set the gent > > selling it had a price tag of seventy five dollars on it. I was > > tempted, but considering the stuff wrong with it I WIMPED out on it, > > and now am sorry I did. It sure is a beauty restored. > > > > I doubt anybody will jump at it with a $500 starting bid, but if the seller relists > later at a more realistic starting point, he may do fairly well. > > I'm curious how you found the auction and posted so quick about it. Do you know the > seller? It seems strange that you found the auction and posted about it here, only > 13 minutes after it was listed on eBay. Item was listed at 5:16:16 Central time, you > posted about it here at 5:29 Central time. Generally newly listed items will not > turn up in an eBay search for the first few hours. Sounds like you know the eBay > seller and are trying to give him a little free advertising. I hope not. > > http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&since=30&userid=country-lane-antiques&include=0&rows=200&sort=8&completed=1 > > > I just bought a cube on Ebay BTW. Only thing missing is one of the > > wooden feet, so I may be searching for a scavenged set if I persue this > > project. > > > > 5R216. They are cute little radios. If you have no luck here, try at the antique > radio forum want ads making sure you put the model number in the header line. > > By the way, I see you're back to checking seller reserves and retracting your bids on > eBay again. http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=120020505471 > Naughty! Funny how you typed in $155 when you meant to type in $88. Your keyboard > must have malfunctioned, those numbers aren't even close to each other! ;o) > > jim menning All the items I ever listed were there PRONTO but 1. Article: 340175 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Crosley 516(radio from hell) Date: 19 Aug 2006 22:21:51 -0700 Message-ID: <1156051311.781786.72050@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: Paul wrote: > Paul wrote in > news:Xns9824E122214B9nospamallnet@24.70.95.211: > > > I think I found the problem I was having with my Crosley 516, after > > checking the schematic and my wiring after re-capping, and the old > > caps I took out, I noticed that one of the 2 in one caps i replaced > > has written on it that ground is at one end , > > all the others say lug is common, so I think I have things wired wrong > > with the 11z,y cap. > > I should have been looking at things more closely when I was > > re-capping it I guess, anyway I'll let you know how I make out when I > > correct things, thanks for the help so far! > > > > Paul > > > > Yippee - it works plays excellent! > I re-wired things right and what do you know it works! > I'll post a picture of it in the other group soon, it is my first time > using toned lacquer I got it right after the 3rd attempt but everything > came together with this radio in the end, cabinet and electronic! > > I'm very happy! > > Paul Excellent! I'm happy for you! On to bigger and fussier things, eh? From wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com Wed Aug 23 20:21:26 EDT 2006 Article: 340176 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: interesting JVC speakers-what vintage ? From: Wayne Boatwright References: <1155645657.997468.257160@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1155696024.570023.42080@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1155827509.766644.102110@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: User-Agent: Xnews/2006.03.14 X-Face: '2=UjhX-y3vfeO94nyru(,e&{Lf^eJ&15S#rcuk:e{unjSRN4yZ69Z'ePMJsPO"6\s'iVZ0OZ>_ NNTP-Posting-Host: $$-dwenldqscyt.newsgate.x-privat.org Date: 20 Aug 2006 07:47:01 +0200 Organization: X-Privat NNTP Server - http://www.x-privat.org Lines: 14 X-Complaints-To: abuse@x-privat.org Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeed.freenet.de!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!81.174.50.156.MISMATCH!redpower.x-privat.org!newsgate.x-privat.org!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:340176 Oh pshaw, on Fri 18 Aug 2006 08:54:07a, GregS meant to say... > After turning out the lights, the orginal picture was much better, but > this does not make it right. > Nor does it make it wrong. Yours was a waste of time. -- Wayne Boatwright __________________________________________________ Brought to you by the anarcho-syndicalist commune. Article: 340177 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jason M" Subject: Bought this Gilfillan, can anyone tell me about it? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 05:58:54 GMT Well, I went and bought the cathedral radio that I saw advertised as a Radiovox and found out it was made by Gilfillan. The tag on the chassis says licensed by Radio Corp of America and manufactured by Gilfillan Bros. It's an AC, 6 tube cathedral radio that says "Radiovox" under the tuning window. Now I'm curious, can anyone tell me more about it? I know I need to find a knob somewhere. The escutcheon says "Radiovox", is that original to this radio? Without me going through every Rider schematic, anyone have an idea what model it is? It looks like it's already had some work done in the past, a capacitor is soldered on the chassis and it has a glass fuse added. I've looked through five or six radio books without seeing a picture of this or a description that matches. Here is a link to a picture I took: http://mysite.verizon.net/resoz4m9/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/gilf.jpg Thanks for anything you can tell me. Jason Article: 340178 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:11:14 -0500 Message-ID: <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Yeah Mark, but you're kinda missing the point. Four tube curtain-burner TRFs were some of the worst radios ever built in this country but people still collect them. To appreciate a radio solely for its engineering is to ignore other factors that make people enjoy and collect radios. In other words, you can type till your fingers fall off about the failings of Zenith radios compared to its competitors of the era, but you won't change the minds of those who appreciate the brand. To continue to harp on it tends to end up looking like either jealousy or dickwaving. I'm not sure what's to be gained by disrespecting any radio. It's not your money, what do you care what other people spend it on? -p. "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:zbOdna9kXqpOW3rZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com... > Of course, if you want a nice console radio with REAL guts in it, you have > to get an upper end Philco, Stromberg-Carlson , RCA or GE... or even a > Midwest. Spending bigger money, you'd go McMurdo-Silver or Scott. > Even > the Wells-Gardner made Airline/Truetone/etc or Colonial made Silvertones > will outdo most Zenths I think, tube for tube, in the '36-'42 era allwave > sets. Those 11, 13 and 19 tube 1937era Admiral/Camden/etc sets by > Consolidated Radio are nice too (big oval dials). > > Mark Oppat > > > "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message > news:44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com... >> "Hagstar" wrote in message >> news:12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com... >> >> > Do I detect a note of sarcasm? Fine then- the Commander's brainwashing >> > has endured nearly a century. Never have so many coveted so little so >> > much. >> >> Commander, schomander. If I wanted to listen to Yurgi Ivanovich > broadcasting >> from a spark transmitter in Outer Elbonia I'd do it right and go buy a >> Collins instead of thinking that a walnut refrigerator with an extra IF >> stage is going to get me there. I don't listen to my radios all the time > but >> my wife and I have to look at the dumb things every single day, and given >> that I'd damn well better like the view. Every radio I own picks up WTMJ > and >> my two-tube transmitter just fine. >> >> :-D >> >> All kidding (?) aside I make a poor excuse for a Zenith evangelist. I > happen >> to like some of the cabinets' styling (not necessarily the dials) but I >> don't go out of my way or budget to buy them; like everything else I own >> they got here because they just happened to land at the intersection of >> opportunity, value and potential enjoyment so religious arguments just > kind >> of strike me as silly. I buy what I like. >> >> (OT - IMO those blackout bulbs are cool. Nice find. :) >> >> -p. >> >> >> >> -- >> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> >> > > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 340179 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: Do you think this Zenith is worth that much? Date: 19 Aug 2006 23:22:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1156054973.241280.141020@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Just for the record, NO I am not giving anyone free advertising. If I'd do it, it sure wouldn't be for that particular seller, no offense. As far as the posting versus time on, I cannot explain that. I merely responded as soon as I saw the ad come up. If it seems shorter than usual, hey blame the networking and the amount of Ebay traffic. :) Honestly I have no laison with this seller. Nuff said. Thanks all else for the input. It is a unique little radio. > I'm curious how you found the auction and posted so quick about it. Do you know the > seller? It seems strange that you found the auction and posted about it here, only > 13 minutes after it was listed on eBay. Item was listed at 5:16:16 Central time, you > posted about it here at 5:29 Central time. Generally newly listed items will not > turn up in an eBay search for the first few hours. Sounds like you know the eBay > seller and are trying to give him a little free advertising. I hope not. Article: 340180 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: GE P780E Transistor Set Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:09:04 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1155957141.786906.158280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> jim menning wrote: > "RadioGary" wrote in message > news:1155957141.786906.158280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> I've been looking around for this set for awhile. I finally found one >> very reasonable and in good condition at a Hamfest in town. Does >> anyone know more about the set? I heard rumor that this was a very >> early version of the GE Super Radio line of portable sets. Receiver on >> this thing is hot to say the least. Selective as hell, too. I can >> hear AM 700 WLW in Cincinatti with WGN's 50k watt transmitter in my >> back yard. Looks to be made around 1960. >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> GB >> > > Very good front end, loud clear audio, and very heavy. Also, very common. I saw at > least a half dozen of these at Bolingbrook this month, I'm really surprised you > didn't spot any there. I myself have sold at least 5 or 6 of these over the last 5 > years. They usually seem to go for $15-30, but I have also seen very optimistic > people go back home with theirs when pricing them any higher. > > They are often referred to as a forerunner to the superadio, but that's probably just > because they were GE products that were sensitive, selective, and had a good audio > amp and large speaker. I don't think the "superadio" marketing concept was thought > of when the high-performance P780s were released some 20 years earlier. The P780 is IMHO one of the ugliest radios ever made (and I like chrome)....BUT it is super hot and the sound quality approaches that of a good tube radio....everyone in the sticks should have one. It was designed to play for 700 hours on batteries that are considerably more mediocre than anything available today. Put alkalines in one now and you could probably play it at low volume for several weeks continuously. It may not be a SuperRadio, but it is a super radio. -Scott Article: 340181 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "k35454" References: Subject: Re: Bought this Gilfillan, can anyone tell me about it? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:27:26 -0700 "Jason M" wrote in message news:ySSFg.8235$RQ5.7254@trnddc03... Well, I went and bought the cathedral radio that I saw advertised as a Radiovox and found out it was made by Gilfillan. The tag on the chassis says licensed by Radio Corp of America and manufactured by Gilfillan Bros. It's an AC, 6 tube cathedral radio that says "Radiovox" under the tuning window. Now I'm curious, can anyone tell me more about it? I know I need to find a knob somewhere. The escutcheon says "Radiovox", is that original to this radio? Without me going through every Rider schematic, anyone have an idea what model it is? It looks like it's already had some work done in the past, a capacitor is soldered on the chassis and it has a glass fuse added. I've looked through five or six radio books without seeing a picture of this or a description that matches. Here is a link to a picture I took: http://mysite.verizon.net/resoz4m9/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/gilf.jpg Thanks for anything you can tell me. Jason There was a company in California that made Gilfillan radios. Have you tried Google ? k35454. Article: 340182 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: OT XM 40's channel Message-ID: References: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:48:11 GMT On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:36:12 -0400, "David" wrote: >Last night I was working on a 50s phono and listening to XM channel that >plays 40's music.(The FM modulator is so strong I can pick it up on any FM >radio in my house.) >Aparantly, this weekend they are playing hit tunes from each year going back >to 1930. >For the first time ever, I heard the Paul Whiteman version of Smoke Gets In >Your Eyes. >What a great tune his version is. It goes to show a good tune can play with >no vocal or just a vocal refrain. Whoever did the arrangements should have >been paid double. That sub tone clarinet is haunting. >Now to find the record.. Might be hard. 1933-1934 not too many records were >sold... > The Vocal refrain is by Bob Lawrence. The recording is available on a CD called "Best Loved Bands of All Time" I have an MP3 of that track on my Computer. Finding a 78 might be difficult. Article: 340183 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1155957141.786906.158280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156037205.962631.85210@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: GE P780E Transistor Set Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 04:54:33 -0700 Message-ID: >> The FCC has finished the quality ruining job by packing >> the band tightly for 40 years and unless you have a tube >> set of a really good older stereo receiver or tuner, you may >> not know what good AM is really like and that it's worthwhile. I like to "talk up" the tuner that came with my Sony CD Walkman. It's about the size of a pack of chewing gum (5 sticks, not 20), yet it has both AM and stereo FM, auto-programming for 30 stations, and it doubles as the remote control. It is a marvel of miniaturization! Now, its ferrite antenna (!!!) isn't very large (how could it be?), so, regardless of the quality of its front end, it's not going to be highly sensitive in any practical sense. But it uses (I assume) ceramic resonators (or something similar) in the IF strip. That means it could have excellent sensitivity and a wide, flat audio response. Could have. Other than "just listening" (non-stereo AM stations vary widely in their sound quality), any suggestions for deciding just how good it is? This isn't that important; I'm just "moving the air" more than anything else. Article: 340184 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:09:36 -0400 Message-ID: <12egk843vkgqr3e@corp.supernews.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com... > To continue to harp on it tends to end up looking like either jealousy or > dickwaving. I'm not sure what's to be gained by disrespecting any radio. The narrow conformist ideals that lead people to worship and overvalue Zenith are the same ones that produce all forms of intolerance. Like exray said on the Forum, many 1930-32 consoles are like unwanted puppies at the pound. The consoles and the puppies have the same problem- many Americans care only about trendy, new looking and smelling, superficially glossy things. They're thinking now maybe they don't like immigrants because that seems to be a trend among all the stars and talking heads. Almost NO ONE pokes fun at Zenith- they are endlessly lauded in books and online as the be all end all of old radios. Until I die I will do what I can (not enough) to knock over the Golden Calf of Radio. If they hadn't been such blatant scam artists starting a year earlier than everyone else it wouldn't be so bad. But what purpose does it serve to simply fail to state the obvious truth- the king has no clothes or in this case tapped coils in place of discrete ones. For my one knock he there with be hundreds of lines of praise. ALL I said is that I wouldn't pay that much for them. And yes I am questioning the judgment and character of those who do. I wouldn't want a Radio Bigot for a neighbor, they'd likely be calling the town because my grass is over 4" tall. John H. Article: 340185 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: 20 Aug 2006 05:20:47 -0700 Message-ID: <1156076447.154882.91270@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> Paul Dietenberger wrote: > Yeah Mark, but you're kinda missing the point. Four tube curtain-burner TRFs > were some of the worst radios ever built in this country but people still > collect them. To appreciate a radio solely for its engineering is to ignore > other factors that make people enjoy and collect radios. In other words, you > can type till your fingers fall off about the failings of Zenith radios > compared to its competitors of the era, but you won't change the minds of > those who appreciate the brand. To continue to harp on it tends to end up > looking like either jealousy or dickwaving. I'm not sure what's to be gained > by disrespecting any radio. It's not your money, what do you care what other > people spend it on? > > -p. > same point i have been trying to make for years. falls on deaf ears. i appreciate the nice philco's, rca's etc.. i have many in my collection. but zenith put together a package of a well performing radio that is extremely easy on the eyes. apparently many people agree on this or there woudn't be such a strong market for them. many people can't get past the frustration of the inabilty to buy these radios cheap (for the most part). unless you can pick one up at an auction where there are no other collectors, or rip a little old widow off at a yard sale, you are going to pay a premium for one of the nicer zenith radios. this bothers many people in the radio collecting community for some reason. i guess it is like when my brother in law whines every time he watches a barrett-jackson auction. all he can talk about is the good old days when you could buy that superbird for 1000.00 and how STUPID these people are that pay that kind of money. on the other hand, he gloats about how much his rare musclecar parts are worth. i think it is mostly jealousy that he he doesn't have the bucks to throw around and own this stuff anymore. it's human nature i suppose. everything is market driven. whether it is a car, home or a radio. if a lot of people want it, the price goes up. if it is a undesirable item, it goes cheap. that is the reason a 15 tube zenith can cost you several thousand dollars and you can buy a better performing 16 tube philco for 150.00. it ain't just about the "performance." it's supply and demand my friends. Article: 340186 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "electron@grapevine.net" Subject: Re: Kansas City Date: 20 Aug 2006 05:28:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1156076904.522475.246430@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: Steve Phipps wrote: > If you're looking for old radios / electronics around KC you might search > the two big weekend swap meets around town... Boulevard Drive In at 10th & > Merriam Lane in KCK and 63rd Street Drive In at 63rd & I-435 in KCMO. You > never know what will show up in terms of antique electronics. Also the big > flea markets at Truman Corners Shopping Center in Grandview and the Brass > Armadillo in Blue Springs / Grain Valley have a few nice surprises now and > then... > > Steve P. > > "OzRadio" wrote in message > news:ZX7Fg.16110$o27.9625@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... > > Are there any places in the Kansas City metro area that sell vintage > > electronics and parts? > > Ryan > > > > > > --------------= Posted using GrabIt =---------------- > > ------= Binary Usenet downloading made easy =--------- > > -= Get GrabIt for free from http://www.shemes.com/ =- > > I wouldn't waste any time at the 63rd street swap meet ("Nate's") as I know someone who regularly shows up there by 8am and gets all the good stuff... ;-) Seriously, lately, you have to go four to five times to get any real 'hits', but they're still there on occasion. I enjoy the regulars (sellers) that are evidently professional house cleaners/junk dealers, they bring out *everything* that they've loaded up over the week. I've 'trained' a few to expect to see me by now (..."Hey, over here! I've got some vacuum tubes for you!") I'm 'forced' into buying the chaff for a couple of bucks, so they'll remember to hold the stuff for me next weekend (when it might turn out to be *real* goodies!) Due to the rain this Saturday, sellers and buyers were relatively scarce, but I still had some fun, i.e. got another Weller 200/260w gun in beautiful shape for $5 (but with gas at $3 a gallon, was it worth the drive? You bet! I gladly pay the price of the 'hunt'!) I've enjoyed the Truman Corners flea market too, especially for records/reel to reels. -Robert Article: 340187 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: interesting JVC speakers-what vintage ? Date: 20 Aug 2006 05:31:52 -0700 Message-ID: <1156077111.997107.145540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1155645657.997468.257160@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Wayne Boatwright wrote: > -- > Wayne Boatwright > __________________________________________________ > > Brought to you by the anarcho-syndicalist commune. Endorsed by the cryptological psuedo-fascist pollster cabal. Enjoy the lightning. Article: 340188 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: 20 Aug 2006 05:32:19 -0700 Message-ID: <1156077139.623261.154400@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message > news:44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com... > > To continue to harp on it tends to end up looking like either jealousy or > > dickwaving. I'm not sure what's to be gained by disrespecting any radio. > > The narrow conformist ideals that lead people to worship and overvalue > Zenith are the same ones that produce all forms of intolerance. Like exray > said on the Forum, many 1930-32 consoles are like unwanted puppies at the > pound. The consoles and the puppies have the same problem- many Americans > care only about trendy, new looking and smelling, superficially glossy > things. They're thinking now maybe they don't like immigrants because that > seems to be a trend among all the stars and talking heads. > > Almost NO ONE pokes fun at Zenith- they are endlessly lauded in books and > online as the be all end all of old radios. Until I die I will do what I can > (not enough) to knock over the Golden Calf of Radio. If they hadn't been > such blatant scam artists starting a year earlier than everyone else it > wouldn't be so bad. But what purpose does it serve to simply fail to state > the obvious truth- the king has no clothes or in this case tapped coils in > place of discrete ones. For my one knock he there with be hundreds of lines > of praise. > > ALL I said is that I wouldn't pay that much for them. And yes I am > questioning the judgment and character of those who do. I wouldn't want a > Radio Bigot for a neighbor, they'd likely be calling the town because my > grass is over 4" tall. > > John H. john, what an item is worth to you is your opinion and of course you are entitled to it. but i know you understand free market. why in the world would you question the "worth" of anything? if people are willing to pay the price, the stuff (in this case a radio brand)will sell. it is simple as that. if it is not worth the asking price, it will not sell. if these people are fools and paying over market value (as you suggest) the market will force them to take a loss when they sell. this little simple theory drives the market for everything from radios to automobiles. i don't understand your problem. an item is worth what it is worth. nothing under the sun can change that. do i wish that i could but a nice 15 tube console for 25.00? absolutely. is that going to happen? no. then why harp on it? Article: 340189 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "powerdoc" Subject: Re: Fisher 800C tube receiver/amplifier repair question Date: 20 Aug 2006 05:32:42 -0700 Message-ID: <1156077162.175595.156480@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1153491537.047674.118300@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Does anyone know how to get a response from Fisherdoc? Article: 340190 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: 20 Aug 2006 05:47:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1156078041.429688.138490@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message > news:44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com... > > To continue to harp on it tends to end up looking like either jealousy or > > dickwaving. I'm not sure what's to be gained by disrespecting any radio. > > The narrow conformist ideals that lead people to worship and overvalue > Zenith are the same ones that produce all forms of intolerance. Like exray > said on the Forum, many 1930-32 consoles are like unwanted puppies at the > pound. The consoles and the puppies have the same problem- many Americans > care only about trendy, new looking and smelling, superficially glossy > things. They're thinking now maybe they don't like immigrants because that > seems to be a trend among all the stars and talking heads. > > Almost NO ONE pokes fun at Zenith- they are endlessly lauded in books and > online as the be all end all of old radios. Until I die I will do what I can > (not enough) to knock over the Golden Calf of Radio. If they hadn't been > such blatant scam artists starting a year earlier than everyone else it > wouldn't be so bad. But what purpose does it serve to simply fail to state > the obvious truth- the king has no clothes or in this case tapped coils in > place of discrete ones. For my one knock he there with be hundreds of lines > of praise. > > ALL I said is that I wouldn't pay that much for them. And yes I am > questioning the judgment and character of those who do. I wouldn't want a > Radio Bigot for a neighbor, they'd likely be calling the town because my > grass is over 4" tall. I don't even have grass.. Article: 340191 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: 20 Aug 2006 05:53:05 -0700 Message-ID: <1156078385.836945.268410@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> Eddie Brimer wrote: > Paul Dietenberger wrote: > > Yeah Mark, but you're kinda missing the point. Four tube curtain-burner TRFs > > were some of the worst radios ever built in this country but people still > > collect them. To appreciate a radio solely for its engineering is to ignore > > other factors that make people enjoy and collect radios. In other words, you > > can type till your fingers fall off about the failings of Zenith radios > > compared to its competitors of the era, but you won't change the minds of > > those who appreciate the brand. To continue to harp on it tends to end up > > looking like either jealousy or dickwaving. I'm not sure what's to be gained > > by disrespecting any radio. It's not your money, what do you care what other > > people spend it on? > > > > -p. > > > > same point i have been trying to make for years. falls on deaf ears. i > appreciate the nice philco's, rca's etc.. i have many in my > collection. but zenith put together a package of a well performing > radio that is extremely easy on the eyes. apparently many people agree > on this or there woudn't be such a strong market for them. many people > can't get past the frustration of the inabilty to buy these radios > cheap (for the most part). unless you can pick one up at an auction > where there are no other collectors, or rip a little old widow off at a > yard sale, you are going to pay a premium for one of the nicer zenith > radios. this bothers many people in the radio collecting community for > some reason. i guess it is like when my brother in law whines every > time he watches a barrett-jackson auction. all he can talk about is > the good old days when you could buy that superbird for 1000.00 and how > STUPID these people are that pay that kind of money. on the other > hand, he gloats about how much his rare musclecar parts are worth. i > think it is mostly jealousy that he he doesn't have the bucks to throw > around and own this stuff anymore. it's human nature i suppose. > everything is market driven. whether it is a car, home or a radio. if > a lot of people want it, the price goes up. if it is a undesirable > item, it goes cheap. that is the reason a 15 tube zenith can cost you > several thousand dollars and you can buy a better performing 16 tube > philco for 150.00. it ain't just about the "performance." it's supply > and demand my friends. Heck with that. My chassis was $60 with shipping and the cabinet 8 something.. My "new" Silvertone 4569 chassis from Jeff Goldsmith was $60.00 and the cabinet 8 something. A lovely pattern I think. Article: 340192 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: GE P780E Transistor Set Date: 20 Aug 2006 05:56:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1156078584.876057.49270@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1155957141.786906.158280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> William Sommerwerck wrote: > > The FCC has finished the quality ruining job by packing > > the band tightly for 40 years and unless you have a tube > > set of a really good older stereo receiver or tuner, you may > > not know what good AM is really like and that it's worthwhile. > > Stereo AM can be awfully good. If you don't know, you might very well think > you're listening to stereo FM. Aware of that, hasn't existed on commercial radio here since the 1990s and the public station killed it a long time ago. My AMS-modded 5050 blew all it's fuses and my Sony with it's mods belongs to my boss now. Article: 340193 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: GE P780E Transistor Set Date: 20 Aug 2006 06:00:05 -0700 Message-ID: <1156078805.828041.122830@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1155957141.786906.158280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> William Sommerwerck wrote: > >> The FCC has finished the quality ruining job by packing > >> the band tightly for 40 years and unless you have a tube > >> set of a really good older stereo receiver or tuner, you may > >> not know what good AM is really like and that it's worthwhile. > > I like to "talk up" the tuner that came with my Sony CD Walkman. It's about > the size of a pack of chewing gum (5 sticks, not 20), yet it has both AM and > stereo FM, auto-programming for 30 stations, and it doubles as the remote > control. It is a marvel of miniaturization! > > Now, its ferrite antenna (!!!) isn't very large (how could it be?), so, > regardless of the quality of its front end, it's not going to be highly > sensitive in any practical sense. But it uses (I assume) ceramic resonators > (or something similar) in the IF strip. That means it could have excellent > sensitivity and a wide, flat audio response. > > Could have. Other than "just listening" (non-stereo AM stations vary widely > in their sound quality), any suggestions for deciding just how good it is? > > This isn't that important; I'm just "moving the air" more than anything > else. I had the Toshiba? walkman with the tuner pack options (AM, FM I had and SW) sold by Trump Electronics, with the mic/mute "talk" circuit. The deck stopped pulling the tape even with batteries and seemingly good belts. Article: 340194 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: GE P780E Transistor Set Date: 20 Aug 2006 06:08:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1156079280.289200.161910@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1155957141.786906.158280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Scott W. Harvey wrote: > The P780 is IMHO one of the ugliest radios ever made (and I like > chrome)....BUT it is super hot and the sound quality approaches that of > a good tube radio....everyone in the sticks should have one. Ramblers are the car I'm reminded of, but I LIKE those. > It was designed to play for 700 hours on batteries that are considerably > more mediocre than anything available today. Put alkalines in one now > and you could probably play it at low volume for several weeks continuously. I don't think those coppertops or bunny batteries would care to be used at the rate and uncertain intervals that they tend to get. For one thing, I recall the carbon-zinc and heavy-duty type batteries had some "rebound" if you didn't just drain them quickly. Alkalines are happy with a steady drain, I'll bet, they are designed for stamina in a continuous drain usage. > It may not be a SuperRadio, but it is a super radio. I'll agree (Yes! Circle gets the square!) Article: 340195 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Fisher 800C tube receiver/amplifier repair question Date: 20 Aug 2006 06:10:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1156079413.481145.24090@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1153491537.047674.118300@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> powerdoc wrote: > Does anyone know how to get a response from Fisherdoc? Tell him his fly is open? Article: 340196 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Bought this Gilfillan, can anyone tell me about it? Date: 20 Aug 2006 06:13:12 -0700 Message-ID: <1156079592.150250.55600@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: k35454 wrote: > "Jason M" wrote in message > news:ySSFg.8235$RQ5.7254@trnddc03... > Well, I went and bought the cathedral radio that I saw advertised as a > Radiovox and found out it was made by Gilfillan. The tag on the chassis > says licensed by Radio Corp of America and manufactured by Gilfillan Bros. > It's an AC, 6 tube cathedral radio that says "Radiovox" under the tuning > window. Now I'm curious, can anyone tell me more about it? I know I need > to find a knob somewhere. The escutcheon says "Radiovox", is that original > to this radio? Without me going through every Rider schematic, anyone have > an idea what model it is? It looks like it's already had some work done in > the past, a capacitor is soldered on the chassis and it has a glass fuse > added. I've looked through five or six radio books without seeing a picture > of this or a description that matches. Here is a link to a picture I took: > > http://mysite.verizon.net/resoz4m9/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/gilf.jpg > > Thanks for anything you can tell me. > > Jason > > There was a company in California that made Gilfillan radios. > Have you tried Google ? k35454. Ask Ken G. His address is valid for any of the posts you find of his. Article: 340197 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1155957141.786906.158280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156079280.289200.161910@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: GE P780E Transistor Set Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 06:21:41 -0700 Message-ID: > I don't think those coppertops or bunny batteries would care > to be used at the rate and uncertain intervals that they tend > to get. For one thing, I recall the carbon-zinc and heavy-duty > type batteries had some "rebound" if you didn't just drain > them quickly. Alkalines are happy with a steady drain, I'll bet, > they are designed for stamina in a continuous drain usage. Though alkaline cells will always give signifcantly longer service life than carbon-zinc cells, they show their advantage under heavy-drain applications, where they last about 10 times as long (because carbon-zinc cells poop out pretty quickly). In an application such as this 6 D-cell radio, I'd expect the alkalines to give two to three times the service life, especially if the set was not used every day or for long periods, partly because alkaline cells don't self-discharge as rapidly as carbon-zinc cells. By the way, Ray-O-Vac alkalines work quite well, but they're not spec'd for heavy-drain applications (such as electronic flashes, motorized toys, etc). Their claim to provide "alkaline power" is pretty much a lie, though in light-drain apps, a single charge lasts almost as long as a throwaway alkaline. Article: 340198 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1156002542.915102.325860@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Realistic: Phonograph needle replacement? Message-ID: <4gZFg.1244$Qt3.11603@weber.videotron.net> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:10:03 -0400 "terry" wrote in message news:1156002542.915102.325860@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... > Syl; (Phonograph cartridge rebuilder and such) in Quebec. > Still around this news group? > Long time no speak! > Cos I have friend who would like to replace the phonograph needle of > his 1970s Realistic record player. > Please advise your email and also if I can have him contact you > directly. > Bon Chance. Terry Hi Terry, Long time no speak ! I lurk here from time to time... I'll be pleased to help your buddy. Have him contact me: restoration at oldradioz dot com Syl Article: 340199 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Steve J Subject: Re: Do you think this Zenith is worth that much? Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:28:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I'm sure this seller knows radios. He must have a huge collection of old test equipment. He bids aginst me all the time for vintage tube testers and test equipment from the 20's and 30's. Has for a long time. Article: 340200 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "OzRadio" Subject: 1957 Westinghouse Message-ID: <7VYFg.1502$yO7.340@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:51:15 GMT I picked up a 1957 Westinghouse 644T6 at a yard sale. I'm new to restoring old radios but this chassis looks considerably different from the other radios I have. Instead of a thick metal chassis it's like everything's soldered to a thin board. I recognize the parts just not the manner in which they're wired to the chassis. Is this common for newer old radios? Will I need to melt the solder and such to remove and test tubes, etc? Thanks in advance for any input. Ryan --------------= Posted using GrabIt =---------------- ------= Binary Usenet downloading made easy =--------- -= Get GrabIt for free from http://www.shemes.com/ =- Article: 340201 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: It speaks! References: <5o1Fg.66614$u05.36976@trnddc01> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:48:16 -0400 James Sweet wrote: > Things have been good in general, I'm excited to make further progress > on this thing but I've been limited to an evening or two a week, life, > work and other things tend to keep me from my hobbies far too often. You > wouldn't believe the queue of projects I have stacked up, or maybe you > would, I suspect it's the same way for you. > > Got any recommendations for an antenna for this thing? I noticed there's > three terminals on the back, one is apparently ground, the other two are > connected to a piece of thin stranded zipcord that was on the set when I > got it. Obviously there's better solutions. James, For the antenna all you need is a long wire connected to the terminal, nothing special. Of course you can run a long wire in your attic for better reception and long distant listening. As far as me, yes, I have a bunch of projects on cue... almost done with another 6 tube nixie clock. Sal Brisindi Article: 340202 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: GE P780E Transistor Set Date: 20 Aug 2006 06:54:15 -0700 Message-ID: <1156082055.093282.239770@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1155957141.786906.158280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> William Sommerwerck wrote: > > I don't think those coppertops or bunny batteries would care > > to be used at the rate and uncertain intervals that they tend > > to get. For one thing, I recall the carbon-zinc and heavy-duty > > type batteries had some "rebound" if you didn't just drain > > them quickly. Alkalines are happy with a steady drain, I'll bet, > > they are designed for stamina in a continuous drain usage. > > Though alkaline cells will always give signifcantly longer service life than > carbon-zinc cells, they show their advantage under heavy-drain applications, > where they last about 10 times as long (because carbon-zinc cells poop out > pretty quickly). > > In an application such as this 6 D-cell radio, I'd expect the alkalines to > give two to three times the service life, especially if the set was not used > every day or for long periods, partly because alkaline cells don't > self-discharge as rapidly as carbon-zinc cells. > > By the way, Ray-O-Vac alkalines work quite well, but they're not spec'd for > heavy-drain applications (such as electronic flashes, motorized toys, etc). > Their claim to provide "alkaline power" is pretty much a lie, though in > light-drain apps, a single charge lasts almost as long as a throwaway > alkaline. I used $1.00 Panasonic heavy-duty C cells in the Royal 880. They still have lots of punch for AM 6 months later with occasional medium duty use, but I could not get any FM the night of the blackout (Boise AM was there most of the duration). Perhaps the power was down to the antenna farm site (is it Bogus Basin or Deer Point-I've forgotten)? Nope. No FM, but AM is there. Of course, the strength of KSRV at 1/2 mile is well over 107 dBu that I've read of on a website about radio info by ZIP Code...maybe over 112 I'd guess. My monitor has NO EFFECT on reception of 1380! I asked somebody if the FM will cut out below a certain power level, to no effect? I also mention I need ANY concentric knobs that will operate the tuning and bandswitch, as I prefer it to a dinky recent GE AC/DC AM/FM that does sound good on either band but is small and gutless in comparison. A new handle strap would be cool too (got Jethro Bodine's belt for a handle--a rope). This is one I like to use! Article: 340203 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: GE P780E Transistor Set Date: 20 Aug 2006 06:58:52 -0700 Message-ID: <1156082332.349206.56940@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1155957141.786906.158280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> PS I can tell Hagstar and Co. that this one is boxy, utilitarian and not a real looker, yet I love it more than any other Zenith I have in the house right now. Not a TO but any paperboy would think it SWELL. Article: 340204 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12egk843vkgqr3e@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:37:24 -0500 Message-ID: <44e874a2$0$1850$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Hagstar" wrote in message news:12egk843vkgqr3e@corp.supernews.com... > The narrow conformist ideals that lead people to worship and overvalue > Zenith are the same ones that produce all forms of intolerance. Ummm, sure, John. Okay. Whatever you say. Who do you know is talking in this way to you? Nobody I ever see on any Internet forum...... > Like exray said on the Forum, many 1930-32 consoles are like unwanted > puppies at the pound. The consoles and the puppies have the same problem- > many Americans care only about trendy, new looking and smelling, > superficially glossy things. Trends come and go. I highly doubt that the fact that this happens is indicative of any mean spirited bias. > Almost NO ONE pokes fun at Zenith- O RLY?! Seems to be quite the popular sport on this board. > they are endlessly lauded in books and online as the be all end all of old > radios. Again. Not seeing serious evidence of this. > Until I die I will do what I can (not enough) to knock over the Golden > Calf of Radio. If they hadn't been such blatant scam artists starting a > year earlier than everyone else it wouldn't be so bad. But what purpose > does it serve to simply fail to state the obvious truth- the king has no > clothes or in this case tapped coils in place of discrete ones. For my one > knock he there with be hundreds of lines of praise. You're going at this all wrong John. Instead of knocking one down, build others up. Where's that glossy book about Stromberg Carlson radios? Somebody needs to write it. You're well spoken. Get to it. Self publish it if you have to. Let the ideas fight it out fairly in the marketplace instead of beating other people down. > ALL I said is that I wouldn't pay that much for them. Neither would I but then I don't buy anything that isn't at least slightly distressed with a price to match. > And yes I am questioning the judgment and character of those who do. I > wouldn't want a Radio Bigot for a neighbor, they'd likely be calling the > town because my grass is over 4" tall. I'm sure people just love having their character questioned. That's a great way to make them see the error of their ways. :eyeroll: Cheers, -p. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 340205 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: 1957 Westinghouse References: <7VYFg.1502$yO7.340@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:39:53 -0400 You probably have a printed wiring boatd, the copper runs take the place of wires. The tubes will unplug, the components can be un soldered. Ken OzRadio wrote: > I picked up a 1957 Westinghouse 644T6 at a yard sale. I'm new to restoring old radios but this chassis looks considerably different from the other radios I have. Instead of a thick metal chassis it's like everything's soldered to a thin board. I recognize the parts just not the manner in which they're wired to the chassis. Is this common for newer old radios? Will I need to melt the solder and such to remove and test tubes, etc? Thanks in advance for any input. > Ryan > > > --------------= Posted using GrabIt =---------------- > ------= Binary Usenet downloading made easy =--------- > -= Get GrabIt for free from http://www.shemes.com/ =- > Article: 340206 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:45:13 -0400 Message-ID: <12eh0sf3b6lpv4e@corp.supernews.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12egk843vkgqr3e@corp.supernews.com> <1156077139.623261.154400@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Eddie, Right now I am working on two nice Zeniths- TO SELL. I put my money where my mouth is- if I thought they really WERE that much better looking I'd pay the price despite a so-so circuit. But I just don't LIKE a Walton five times as much as a 16B. You have this constantly reoccurring theme about ripping off old ladies at yardsales. But you yourself have experienced offering more than they are asking and having the item promptly taken off the market never to be seen again as thanks for your free appraisal. So I don't do that much anymore- it helps no one. I have no interest in acquiring Zeniths cheap, when I do I usually sell them after a recap quite reasonably at swaps. This has nothing to do with envy, I have more nice radios already than I'll ever really need. John H. Article: 340207 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:55:06 -0400 Message-ID: <2aydnT_v5MZhGXXZnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com> Paul, Sorry , you mistook my intent. I dont disrespect Zenith, you cant deny their popularity! In fact, I forgot to mention in that post, as I have many many times, how well made the 1935 cream dial Zeniths are. The 800 and 900 series are fantastic radios. But, more than technologically, some of the sets I mention have beautiful cabinets and dials as well. The finish quality of the RCA and GE sets seems to be quite superior overall to the Zeniths, too. Mark Oppat "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com... > Yeah Mark, but you're kinda missing the point. Four tube curtain-burner TRFs > were some of the worst radios ever built in this country but people still > collect them. To appreciate a radio solely for its engineering is to ignore > other factors that make people enjoy and collect radios. In other words, you > can type till your fingers fall off about the failings of Zenith radios > compared to its competitors of the era, but you won't change the minds of > those who appreciate the brand. To continue to harp on it tends to end up > looking like either jealousy or dickwaving. I'm not sure what's to be gained > by disrespecting any radio. It's not your money, what do you care what other > people spend it on? > > -p. > > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:zbOdna9kXqpOW3rZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Of course, if you want a nice console radio with REAL guts in it, you have > > to get an upper end Philco, Stromberg-Carlson , RCA or GE... or even a > > Midwest. Spending bigger money, you'd go McMurdo-Silver or Scott. > > Even > > the Wells-Gardner made Airline/Truetone/etc or Colonial made Silvertones > > will outdo most Zenths I think, tube for tube, in the '36-'42 era allwave > > sets. Those 11, 13 and 19 tube 1937era Admiral/Camden/etc sets by > > Consolidated Radio are nice too (big oval dials). > > > > Mark Oppat > > > > > > "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message > > news:44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com... > >> "Hagstar" wrote in message > >> news:12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com... > >> > >> > Do I detect a note of sarcasm? Fine then- the Commander's brainwashing > >> > has endured nearly a century. Never have so many coveted so little so > >> > much. > >> > >> Commander, schomander. If I wanted to listen to Yurgi Ivanovich > > broadcasting > >> from a spark transmitter in Outer Elbonia I'd do it right and go buy a > >> Collins instead of thinking that a walnut refrigerator with an extra IF > >> stage is going to get me there. I don't listen to my radios all the time > > but > >> my wife and I have to look at the dumb things every single day, and given > >> that I'd damn well better like the view. Every radio I own picks up WTMJ > > and > >> my two-tube transmitter just fine. > >> > >> :-D > >> > >> All kidding (?) aside I make a poor excuse for a Zenith evangelist. I > > happen > >> to like some of the cabinets' styling (not necessarily the dials) but I > >> don't go out of my way or budget to buy them; like everything else I own > >> they got here because they just happened to land at the intersection of > >> opportunity, value and potential enjoyment so religious arguments just > > kind > >> of strike me as silly. I buy what I like. > >> > >> (OT - IMO those blackout bulbs are cool. Nice find. :) > >> > >> -p. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > > Article: 340208 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:52:57 -0400 Message-ID: <12eh1au30gj0dc0@corp.supernews.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12egk843vkgqr3e@corp.supernews.com> <44e874a2$0$1850$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> It's like you guys are hearing this for the first time. I'm nothing if not a very consistent ranter. John H. Article: 340209 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156076447.154882.91270@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:05:05 -0400 Message-ID: Eddie's right....I agree mostly with everything he said. However, my point is, since this is a RADIO newsgroup, that there are other sets out there that warrant the attention of the readers here, who I suspect might be a little more sophisticated than the average eBayer. Eddie has discovered SC sets are very nicely made and designed, and he often champions them in posts. I mention other brands in response to Zenith posts to call attention to them so readers here will begin to discover the others that deserve attention. I am not knocking all Zeniths. I have owned many many of them, including a couple of the 15 tube 1938 sets, so I know what they are. If you want a nice radio at a more reasonable price, read my posts. Mark Oppat "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1156076447.154882.91270@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > Paul Dietenberger wrote: > > Yeah Mark, but you're kinda missing the point. Four tube curtain-burner TRFs > > were some of the worst radios ever built in this country but people still > > collect them. To appreciate a radio solely for its engineering is to ignore > > other factors that make people enjoy and collect radios. In other words, you > > can type till your fingers fall off about the failings of Zenith radios > > compared to its competitors of the era, but you won't change the minds of > > those who appreciate the brand. To continue to harp on it tends to end up > > looking like either jealousy or dickwaving. I'm not sure what's to be gained > > by disrespecting any radio. It's not your money, what do you care what other > > people spend it on? > > > > -p. > > > > same point i have been trying to make for years. falls on deaf ears. i > appreciate the nice philco's, rca's etc.. i have many in my > collection. but zenith put together a package of a well performing > radio that is extremely easy on the eyes. apparently many people agree > on this or there woudn't be such a strong market for them. many people > can't get past the frustration of the inabilty to buy these radios > cheap (for the most part). unless you can pick one up at an auction > where there are no other collectors, or rip a little old widow off at a > yard sale, you are going to pay a premium for one of the nicer zenith > radios. this bothers many people in the radio collecting community for > some reason. i guess it is like when my brother in law whines every > time he watches a barrett-jackson auction. all he can talk about is > the good old days when you could buy that superbird for 1000.00 and how > STUPID these people are that pay that kind of money. on the other > hand, he gloats about how much his rare musclecar parts are worth. i > think it is mostly jealousy that he he doesn't have the bucks to throw > around and own this stuff anymore. it's human nature i suppose. > everything is market driven. whether it is a car, home or a radio. if > a lot of people want it, the price goes up. if it is a undesirable > item, it goes cheap. that is the reason a 15 tube zenith can cost you > several thousand dollars and you can buy a better performing 16 tube > philco for 150.00. it ain't just about the "performance." it's supply > and demand my friends. > > Article: 340210 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12egk843vkgqr3e@corp.supernews.com> <44e874a2$0$1850$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12eh1au30gj0dc0@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:18:37 -0500 Message-ID: <44e87e57$0$1810$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Hagstar" wrote in message news:12eh1au30gj0dc0@corp.supernews.com... > It's like you guys are hearing this for the first time. I'm nothing if not > a very consistent ranter. Nah. But like you said, it's been slow on the board lately. Seemed like a good time to raise a stink about it. :) -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 340211 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Do you think this Zenith is worth that much? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:20:29 GMT In article , jamessweet@hotmail.com says... > > yup its a radio that any serious Zenith Collector... just has to have one in his collection... and there are some around... but not that many... several hundred bucks to be sure ... even in the condition that this one it in... which although its ugly.. really isn't that bad to fix it... I would sure rather make up some board that goes across the backside of a radio... then to replace a chunk of bad veneer or fill in a bunch of veneer chips ... but alas... his start price is most likely going to be his downfall.. its possible that someone might snipe it at the last minute for just about his start price... As Steve and I both said... a low start price assures action and action is what makes for a high end price on auctions... John >That said, I personally probably wouldn't pay more than about a hundred >bucks for that thing, so maybe it's super rare, but it's not the most >attractive radio I've seen, one could do far better for that sort of >money unless they simply want the rarity. Article: 340212 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Kansas City From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1156076904.522475.246430@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <030Gg.144541$1i1.143817@attbi_s72> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:26:36 GMT In article <1156076904.522475.246430@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, electron@grapevine.net says... > > > >I'm 'forced' into buying the chaff for a couple of bucks, so they'll >remember to hold the stuff for me next weekend (when it might turn out >to be *real* goodies!) > > >-Robert > Yup always support your "pickers" ..even if you lose a little money on bad buys now and then... I always not only encourage them... but spend a little time with the try to educate them as to what to pay for various things that they find... in some cases I give them a new Bunis / Slusser price guide book... and make sure they have my phone number on their cellphones... your at a garage sale or an auction... something comes up that U think I might want.. or your not sure what to pay... call me.. amazing what these people find for us now and then.. John k9uwa Article: 340213 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: 20 Aug 2006 09:49:47 -0700 Message-ID: <1156092587.938175.198690@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > Eddie, Right now I am working on two nice Zeniths- TO SELL. I put my money > where my mouth is- if I thought they really WERE that much better looking > I'd pay the price despite a so-so circuit. But I just don't LIKE a Walton > five times as much as a 16B. > > You have this constantly reoccurring theme about ripping off old ladies at > yardsales. But you yourself have experienced offering more than they are > asking and having the item promptly taken off the market never to be seen > again as thanks for your free appraisal. So I don't do that much anymore- it > helps no one. I have no interest in acquiring Zeniths cheap, when I do I > usually sell them after a recap quite reasonably at swaps. This has nothing > to do with envy, I have more nice radios already than I'll ever really need. > > John H. i don't like it 5 times as much as a 16b either. but i realize many people DO. i don't hate them for it. as far as the ripping off old ladies....i know you wouldn't do that...or most other collectors i have met. but there is a segment of our collecting community that WILL NOT buy a radio unless it is for pennies on the dollar from an unsuspecting person. a "good deal," as they say. i'll bet you are referring to the credenza i was telling you about when you were down for the charlotte show. for those who haven't heard the story....there was an ad in the paper for a wind-up record player. i called and went to look at it. it was just down the road. when i got there it was a really nice credenza. i told her it was worth considerably more than the 50 or 75.00 she was asking and i offered her alot more. long story short, she changed her mind. as far as i know it is still on the damp back porch, weathering away. did i hate i didn't get the player? yes. am i sorry i told the lady the worth of the player? no. i wish i had handled the situation better and got the player, but still not rip the lady off. do i lose sleep over it? no. this same situation has happened to me a bunch of times. once on a whole collection. i try to be fair and if it works out, that's great. if not, i move on. for what it is worth, i don't offer retail or ebay prices either. probably 75%. Article: 340214 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156076447.154882.91270@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <4w0Gg.144572$1i1.74913@attbi_s72> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:57:36 GMT In article , moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says... > > Amazed at the comments here about Zeniths and other brands.. Sorry but maybe I am more biased than other collectors?.. and I bet that some of your are going to be amazed by my next comment... I am in the process of seriously reducing my inventory of old radios.. no way in hell would I live long enough.. and don't have the desire to restore all of them... that said.. I have considered... just exactly Which FEW CONSOLES do I intend to keep?... first the Real Short List ... these 7 ... I expect to croak owning them... Zenith console model number intentionally left off .... yeah its the big one Zenith 16a61 Zenith 12s265 GE E-155 15 tube Colorama Console Crosley Baby Grand Console cabinet Zenith 9s369 Majestic model 1250 ------------- please notice that yup of the 7 there are 4 Z radios in there.. also note that there are several other brands.. notice the absence of 15U Zradios. and I do have one... its on the list ... of Maybe I Keep it .. a 15U270 much nicer cabinet design than that ugly thing thats on fleabay this week............ ----------------- Next amazing part... a couple of weeks ago I posted a note about my latest "Find" ... response to that posting was an exact Zero.. Most of this group probably read it... saw Majestic in the title and said.... No Interest to me... its just another old radio console.. Now notice that radio is listed in my very short keepers list... Majestic model 1250 ... no doubt part of it is because I don't think any of you will find a picture of this radio anyplace on the net.. At the moment about the closest I can tell you to look for a picture is in the Stein Console book .. Stein in his halfassed model number system mistakenly calls this one a model 1280 .... guess he can't tell a 5 from an 8 ... its on page 109 of the book ... I also have the matching dial arrangement Majestic 85 Tombstone and the smaller yet Table radio.... So... yes for various reasons... some have to do with technical design and some for appearance design ... all of us tend to advance in our collecting habits as we progress through this Old Radio Collecting hobby... until we settle on something that appeals to us... and it IS that US part that is really IMPORTANT ... each of US .. have fortunately Different Opinions and desires... John k9uwa Article: 340215 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: 1957 Westinghouse Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:50:43 -0700 Message-ID: <27785-44E892E3-29@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> References: Hey OzR: It's a printed circuit board. As a heads-up, pc boards of that vintage are very prone to developing broken connections- like hairline cracks across the foil traces, bad solder connections where component leads solder into the foil, and where the tube socket lugs solder to the foil. If you discover you have an intermittent condition, wiggling components will often show where the break is at. Other times, an ohmeter is needed to spot a hairline crack that's invisible to the naked eye. To repair a hairline crack, just clean the foil and solder a strand of wire across it =96 but do it quickly as the foil is apt to peel loose from the board. Bill(oc) Article: 340216 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <2aydnT_v5MZhGXXZnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:30:00 -0500 Message-ID: <44e88f14$0$1824$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:2aydnT_v5MZhGXXZnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com... > Paul, > Sorry , you mistook my intent. I dont disrespect Zenith, you cant deny > their popularity! Well yeah,.... the point I was trying to make is that whether or not 36-42 Zeniths provide inadequate bang for the buck, you don't want to antagonize people who like the sets to the point that they don't want to even talk about them here for fear that they're going to have to listen to a lot of crap about how they're no good. It kills the conversation. People don't like being called zombies, even if it's meant in fun. > But, more than technologically, some of the sets I mention have beautiful > cabinets and dials as well. The finish quality of the RCA and GE sets > seems > to be quite superior overall to the Zeniths, too. Sure, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and for whatever reason many people simply find Zeniths more appealing. Maybe it's the fact that the color isn't so dark and somber as RCAs. Maybe it's just familiarity. Who knows. -p. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 340217 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Fisher 800C tube receiver/amplifier repair question Date: 20 Aug 2006 10:39:15 -0700 Message-ID: <1156095555.562131.213000@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1153491537.047674.118300@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Ish wrote: > On 20 Aug 2006 06:10:13 -0700, "Steven" wrote: > > > > >powerdoc wrote: > >> Does anyone know how to get a response from Fisherdoc? > > > >Tell him his fly is open? > > Not to encourage you, but you finally said something funny...! > Mike Gee whiz. Tough audience, and I wasn't trying very hard. Have a decent Sunday, Mr. DeMeo. Article: 340218 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: 20 Aug 2006 10:46:52 -0700 Message-ID: <1156096012.388822.242810@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> Paul Dietenberger wrote: > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:2aydnT_v5MZhGXXZnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Paul, > > Sorry , you mistook my intent. I dont disrespect Zenith, you cant deny > > their popularity! > > Well yeah,.... the point I was trying to make is that whether or not 36-42 > Zeniths provide inadequate bang for the buck, you don't want to antagonize > people who like the sets to the point that they don't want to even talk > about them here for fear that they're going to have to listen to a lot of > crap about how they're no good. It kills the conversation. People don't like > being called zombies, even if it's meant in fun. > > > But, more than technologically, some of the sets I mention have beautiful > > cabinets and dials as well. The finish quality of the RCA and GE sets > > seems > > to be quite superior overall to the Zeniths, too. > > Sure, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and for whatever reason many > people simply find Zeniths more appealing. Maybe it's the fact that the > color isn't so dark and somber as RCAs. Maybe it's just familiarity. Who > knows. I think I'll just plug it in and turn it on as soon as it's done, that's that. Article: 340219 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "philsvintageradios" Subject: Re: Wobbly valves/tubes Date: 20 Aug 2006 12:13:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1156101181.801846.47780@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: Steven wrote: > I tried to glue an antenna mount on a receiver (because it's a Philips > and where do I get that style of AM antenna for 22AH794A04-- anyway) > and it seems the electrical tape wrapping is stronger than JB Weld > (yes, I repaired it while OFF the receiver with the cable intact and > let it sit for a couple days, then tried again. I don't know what you > repair with it normally, but I haven't a clue why they sell it. It > seems to be as worthless as $1 superglue and 10x as expensive. epoxy , polyester resin ,and similar glues ( jb weld, PC woody etc) won't usually stick well to plastics, especially soft plastics. You can put black tape where you don't want it to stick. having said that, there are many types of plastics and many types of glue, so yes I am speaking generally.. I personally have had better success with the stuff for gluing PVC pipe to ABS pipe which is available at plumbing stores, is called transition glue. the stuff is white, and comes in a tin can . it melts into the plastic creating a bond that way. It would be nice to find something similar that is black in color. for loose tube bases I have used superglue with success But I remember someone saying a while back that he figured it might be causing tubes to crack ( from the bond? or temperature expansion issues perhaps? ) I can see using white glue or hot glue, if you ever wanted to get things apart one day that might be a better option? BTW I occasionally have wanted to separate the base from a dud tube ( to use the socket for a speaker plug, etc) I found that if I smash the tube it often leaves half of the glass still stuck in the base. I found if I heat the tube up with a blowtorch till the glass starts to go soft, then drop it in a bucket of water, well the glass shatters, and it does leave a mess of broken glass with the water that needs to be gotten rid of, but I liked the method better than others I have found, for removing the glass envelope without cutting myself. Thougt I would pass it on for what it is worth.. I am sure someone could still find a way to hurt themselves with this method, but it seemed to work better for me than using a hammer to remove the glass :) Phil Article: 340220 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mort Denison" Subject: Springs for Zenith Shutterdial Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:36:47 -0400 Message-ID: Folks, I got a 9S262 in and both springs on the shutterdial are rusted and broken. Can anyone point me to a replacement source? Thanks. Article: 340221 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:47:28 -0400 Message-ID: <12ehf2lsg7tgha4@corp.supernews.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156076447.154882.91270@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <4w0Gg.144572$1i1.74913@attbi_s72> Thanks John for that summation, I really didn't communicate properly here that PREFERENCE is one thing, PREJUDICE another. It's fine that Zenith is coveted by people, it's the way some collectors equate selling price as representing the whole and entire worth of something. It's fine to love something if you don't have to lower something else in the process- as so often happens. There's usually no In crowd without a defining Out crowd. So if you bring a huge fancy RCA console to a swap meet it just sits there in my experience until some non-collector buys it for his dad. Paul's right I could take a more positive approach and write a Stromberg guide or GE guide, but that does seem a tall order. I mean really- look at 'The Professors" book and then look at the Philco guide or the Stein books. As Alan Douglas said to me years ago, 1/2 of collecting is pure snobbery. John H. Article: 340222 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:50:55 -0400 Message-ID: <12ehf94kf92ut24@corp.supernews.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156076447.154882.91270@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <4w0Gg.144572$1i1.74913@attbi_s72> "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:4w0Gg.144572$1i1.74913@attbi_s72... > In article , > moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says... >> >> > > Most of this group probably read it... saw Majestic in the title and > said.... No Interest to me... its just another old radio console.. > Now notice that radio is listed in my very short keepers list... > Majestic model 1250 I want a 1656! But cut my teeth on a Grunow 1101 and I fear repairing Majestic products. Hope that one is an easier one. John H. Article: 340223 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "philsvintageradios" Subject: Re: No Radios @ the Flea... Date: 20 Aug 2006 12:54:42 -0700 Message-ID: <1156103682.466614.168260@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <12eeq2rh3re8990@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > ...but I got 4 of these, 3 of which work. They came in a carton dated 1944 > and marked clearly "DOD Blackout Bulbs" with contract numbers etc. > from Sparks Worthington, not GE though this GE bulb box is inside- > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230018096749&fromMakeTrack=true > > Also I got a pair of these batteries in better shape for my wood wall phone- > > http://cgi.ebay.com/WESTERN-ELECTRIC-BLUE-BELL-BATTERY-FOR-PHONE-SERVICE_W0QQitemZ300016686050 > > John H. those are interesting. maybe it would work to replace a line cord resistor ( someone suggested using a light bulb to replace a curtainburner) .. or a really dim, dim bulb tester:) maybe mounted in a box with the circular window of clear glass facing the front ? phil Article: 340224 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Phipps" Subject: Re: Kansas City Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:52:19 -0500 Message-ID: <12ehis89g3ek737@corp.supernews.com> References: <12efeiv1mlu350b@corp.supernews.com> <1156076904.522475.246430@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> I've found 2 TOs and a few windup phonos at Nate's over the last year or so. I think the Boulevard is better for old electronics. Have found several 7" late 40s TVs there for cheap. Other good large "junky" flea markets around KC include "Timeless Treasures" in Claycomo on 69 Hwy just off I-435 and the Trade Fair Mall just off the last US-71 exit in Harrisonville. Steve P. wrote in message news:1156076904.522475.246430@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > I wouldn't waste any time at the 63rd street swap meet ("Nate's") as I > know someone who regularly shows up there by 8am and gets all the good > stuff... ;-) > > Seriously, lately, you have to go four to five times to get any real > 'hits', but they're still there on occasion. I Article: 340225 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave Fase" Subject: Zenith 7S685 Phono Cartrige and Needle Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 14:39:36 -0700 Would like to buy replacements. Anyone familiar with the set who might make a recommdation? Aloha, Dave Fase Article: 340226 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156076447.154882.91270@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <4w0Gg.144572$1i1.74913@attbi_s72> <12ehf94kf92ut24@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 21:39:53 GMT In article <12ehf94kf92ut24@corp.supernews.com>, yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net says... > > >Hope that one is an easier one. > >John H. > > probably not... three sets of coils and a 5 band radio with top band up to 42 Mhz 12 toober ... the ultra band passes by the RF stage the rest of RF stage.. dual IF toobes finally a pair of 6L6 outputs.. and one of the neatest Dials I have ever seen.... at this point its a "Hummer" so it has a little life left in it. John Article: 340227 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: No Radios @ the Flea... Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:41:31 -0400 Message-ID: <12ehlojae77uda@corp.supernews.com> References: <12eeq2rh3re8990@corp.supernews.com> <1156103682.466614.168260@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "philsvintageradios" wrote in message news:1156103682.466614.168260@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Hagstar wrote: >> ...but I got 4 of these, 3 of which work. They came in a carton dated >> 1944 >> and marked clearly "DOD Blackout Bulbs" with contract numbers etc. >> from Sparks Worthington, not GE though this GE bulb box is inside- > > those are interesting. maybe it would work to replace a line cord > resistor ( someone suggested using a light bulb to replace a > curtainburner) .. or a really dim, dim bulb tester:) I tried one out last night, while listening to some Glenn Miller on the XX-XVI. You can't really read or even move about much by one- it must be about two candlepower- and DOD only allowed one per room. It's odd they blacked out all but a small dot on the end of a 20 watt orange bulb instead of just using those little 7.5 watt jobbies with a dark orange coating. I think they must have done a lot of drinking and ah, napping during blackout drills. The guy I bought them from was about 70, and thought they must be for photo darkroom use. I told him a little bit about his childhood- blackout drills, Nazi submarine saboteurs wandering around Maryland, and U-boats torpedoing merchant ships before crowds of swimmers on Atlantic beaches. He looked at me like I must be crazy, how quickly they forget. John H. Article: 340228 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Superhet Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12egk843vkgqr3e@corp.supernews.com> <1156077139.623261.154400@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <12eh0sf3b6lpv4e@corp.supernews.com> <1156092587.938175.198690@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <035Gg.26575$8j3.25360@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:07:56 GMT How about you give the old lady the $50 and take the radio. Then, since you have the address you send a check for whatever you feel is right to you and you are both happy! Eddie Brimer wrote: > Hagstar wrote: >> Eddie, Right now I am working on two nice Zeniths- TO SELL. I put my money >> where my mouth is- if I thought they really WERE that much better looking >> I'd pay the price despite a so-so circuit. But I just don't LIKE a Walton >> five times as much as a 16B. >> >> You have this constantly reoccurring theme about ripping off old ladies at >> yardsales. But you yourself have experienced offering more than they are >> asking and having the item promptly taken off the market never to be seen >> again as thanks for your free appraisal. So I don't do that much anymore- it >> helps no one. I have no interest in acquiring Zeniths cheap, when I do I >> usually sell them after a recap quite reasonably at swaps. This has nothing >> to do with envy, I have more nice radios already than I'll ever really need. >> >> John H. > > i don't like it 5 times as much as a 16b either. but i realize many > people DO. i don't hate them for it. as far as the ripping off old > ladies....i know you wouldn't do that...or most other collectors i have > met. but there is a segment of our collecting community that WILL NOT > buy a radio unless it is for pennies on the dollar from an unsuspecting > person. a "good deal," as they say. i'll bet you are referring to the > credenza i was telling you about when you were down for the charlotte > show. for those who haven't heard the story....there was an ad in the > paper for a wind-up record player. i called and went to look at it. > it was just down the road. when i got there it was a really nice > credenza. i told her it was worth considerably more than the 50 or > 75.00 she was asking and i offered her alot more. long story short, > she changed her mind. as far as i know it is still on the damp back > porch, weathering away. did i hate i didn't get the player? yes. am i > sorry i told the lady the worth of the player? no. i wish i had > handled the situation better and got the player, but still not rip the > lady off. do i lose sleep over it? no. this same situation has happened > to me a bunch of times. once on a whole collection. i try to be fair > and if it works out, that's great. if not, i move on. for what it is > worth, i don't offer retail or ebay prices either. probably 75%. > Article: 340229 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: Do you think this Zenith is worth that much? Date: 20 Aug 2006 15:56:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1156114581.222506.90070@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> > As Steve and I both said... a low start price assures action and action > is what makes for a high end price on auctions... > > John OK John, I'm trying your strategy with my GE S22. Article: 340230 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: No Radios @ the Flea... Date: 20 Aug 2006 16:30:40 -0700 Message-ID: <1156116640.243535.23410@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <12eeq2rh3re8990@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > "philsvintageradios" wrote in message > news:1156103682.466614.168260@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > > > Hagstar wrote: > >> ...but I got 4 of these, 3 of which work. They came in a carton dated > >> 1944 > >> and marked clearly "DOD Blackout Bulbs" with contract numbers etc. > >> from Sparks Worthington, not GE though this GE bulb box is inside- > > > > > those are interesting. maybe it would work to replace a line cord > > resistor ( someone suggested using a light bulb to replace a > > curtainburner) .. or a really dim, dim bulb tester:) > > I tried one out last night, while listening to some Glenn Miller on the > XX-XVI. You can't really read or even move about much by one- it must be > about two candlepower- and DOD only allowed one per room. It's odd they > blacked out all but a small dot on the end of a 20 watt orange bulb instead > of just using those little 7.5 watt jobbies with a dark orange coating. I > think they must have done a lot of drinking and ah, napping during blackout > drills. > > The guy I bought them from was about 70, and thought they must be for photo > darkroom use. I told him a little bit about his childhood- blackout drills, > Nazi submarine saboteurs wandering around Maryland, and U-boats torpedoing > merchant ships before crowds of swimmers on Atlantic beaches. He looked at > me like I must be crazy, how quickly they forget. > > John H. It would be no surprise. DOD was still the Department of WAR/War Department until after WW II. Article: 340231 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Wobbly valves/tubes Date: 20 Aug 2006 16:38:03 -0700 Message-ID: <1156117083.140631.55090@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: philsvintageradios wrote: > Steven wrote: > > I tried to glue an antenna mount on a receiver (because it's a Philips > > and where do I get that style of AM antenna for 22AH794A04-- anyway) > > and it seems the electrical tape wrapping is stronger than JB Weld > > (yes, I repaired it while OFF the receiver with the cable intact and > > let it sit for a couple days, then tried again. I don't know what you > > repair with it normally, but I haven't a clue why they sell it. It > > seems to be as worthless as $1 superglue and 10x as expensive. > > epoxy , polyester resin ,and similar glues ( jb weld, PC woody etc) > won't usually stick well to plastics, especially soft plastics. You can > put black tape where you don't want it to stick. > having said that, there are many types of plastics and many types of > glue, so yes I am speaking generally.. > > I personally have had better success with the stuff for gluing PVC > pipe to ABS pipe which is available at plumbing stores, is called > transition glue. the stuff is white, and comes in a tin can . it melts > into the plastic creating a bond that way. It would be nice to find > something similar that is black in color. > > for loose tube bases I have used superglue with success But I remember > someone saying a while back that he figured it might be causing tubes > to crack ( from the bond? or temperature expansion issues perhaps? ) > > I can see using white glue or hot glue, if you ever wanted to get > things apart one day that might be a better option? > > BTW > I occasionally have wanted to separate the base from a dud tube ( to > use the socket for a speaker plug, etc) I found that if I smash the > tube it often leaves half of the glass still stuck in the base. > > I found if I heat the tube up with a blowtorch till the glass starts > to go soft, then drop it in a bucket of water, well the glass shatters, > and it does leave a mess of broken glass with the water that needs to > be gotten rid of, but I liked the method better than others I have > found, for removing the glass envelope without cutting myself. Thougt > I would pass it on for what it is worth.. I am sure someone could still > find a way to hurt themselves with this method, but it seemed to work > better for me than using a hammer to remove the glass :) > > > Phil It needs to have the volume and tone pots cleaned also, so like I said I'm going to adjust the HK230A dials and sell it while using the Philips about the shop for now. I am looking for a new part. Article: 340232 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Zenith 7S685 Phono Cartrige and Needle Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:29:45 -0400 "Dave Fase" wrote in message news:qE4Gg.531$fX4.39@newsfe05.lga... > Would like to buy replacements. Anyone familiar with the set > who might make a recommdation? Aloha, Dave Fase Do you have the original cartridge on hand or is it missing ? Syl Article: 340233 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: justin.creasy@gmail.com Subject: need cartridge for Onkyo CP 101A Date: 20 Aug 2006 17:05:26 -0700 Message-ID: <1156118726.595890.85230@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Hello, I need a cartridge for my Onkyo CP 101A. On the back of the record player I see DN 74 ST. I have found cartridges that are very close (DN 72 ST). I am sure that I have the number right and the DN 72 ST looks somewhat different from my broken cartridge. I have tried looking on all the sites I find by googling. Anyone know where I can find a new cartridge? Thanks. Article: 340234 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "OzRadio" Subject: Tube Tester Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 00:14:07 GMT I'm interested in purchasing a tube tester. What characteristics should I look for in a unit? Ryan --------------= Posted using GrabIt =---------------- ------= Binary Usenet downloading made easy =--------- -= Get GrabIt for free from http://www.shemes.com/ =- Article: 340235 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: FS: not mine- crystal radio on craigslist Date: 20 Aug 2006 17:31:40 -0700 Message-ID: <1156120300.803692.206150@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Seller appears to have big hopes. http://denver.craigslist.org/clt/196520849.html Article: 340236 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: Subject: Re: Tube Tester Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 00:48:32 GMT "OzRadio" > I'm interested in purchasing a tube tester. What characteristics should I > look for in a unit? > Ryan If you're thinking about following tubes seriously then go for a mutual conductance, it will cost a bit more but it's better than an emission one. I use a TV-7A/U and a Taylor 45A for European socket P tubes. TV7s check mutual conductance, shorts, gas and noise and i guess it will check all the tubes you need. However it's a bit priced, but it's a hard to destroy item. Some civil clones are available but pricing is not so much different. The best one? IMHO the AVO ct160, near (and sometimes over) 600$. -- Daniele http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 340237 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Tube Tester Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 00:54:12 GMT I'm sure some people will respond with, "the name Hickok." However that's not entirely true. There are a couple of things to look for when shopping for a tester. First, tubes run the gamut from the really old 4-pin types to more modern Compactrons. Many of your older testers don't have the ability to test Compactrons (12 pin socket). Many of the testers that do, including my own B&K 747, have no provision for the older types. I would think for vintage radio work, you can pretty much forget Compactrons, but ensure you have the ability to test the older types. Aside from this, there are two types of testers. One is an emissions tester, the other is called a mutual conductance. In simple terms, the emissions tester runs a current through the tube and measures its ability to handle it; a mutual conductance tester is a little more precise, as it measures a tube's ability to amplify. Since mutual conductance is better (and more expensive), many people will tell you not to bother with the "cheap" one, but go with the "good" one. However the emissions testers also do their job well, and I really don't think you'll find much in the way of tubes that will test okay in one but fail in the other. Rather, I've seen tubes that test fine on a mutual conductance, but act up in the radio, which means that even the "expensive" testers have their flaws. Personally I have a B&K 747, as mentioned earlier, but I also have an older Precision 612. The 612 is, I'm sure, just an emissions tester, but it indeed tests tubes from the 1920's-1930's that the B&K won't. Maybe someday for the sake of snob appeal I may splurge for a good used Hickok, but I'm getting along just fine with what I have. As I recall, growing up my dad had a Heathkit tester -- it was just an emissions tester but it appeared to do the job well. I believe these things go on eBay cheap -- if you want a good tester for home use without breaking your budget, this would be a good contender. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "OzRadio" wrote in message news:jV6Gg.15012$gY6.624@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com... > I'm interested in purchasing a tube tester. What characteristics should I > look for in a unit? > Ryan > > > --------------= Posted using GrabIt =---------------- > ------= Binary Usenet downloading made easy =--------- > -= Get GrabIt for free from http://www.shemes.com/ =- > Article: 340238 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: need cartridge for Onkyo CP 101A Date: 20 Aug 2006 18:08:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1156122504.444321.46810@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156118726.595890.85230@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> justin.creasy@gmail.com wrote: > Hello, I need a cartridge for my Onkyo CP 101A. On the back of the > record player I see DN 74 ST. I have found cartridges that are very > close (DN 72 ST). I am sure that I have the number right and the DN 72 > ST looks somewhat different from my broken cartridge. > > I have tried looking on all the sites I find by googling. Anyone know > where I can find a new cartridge? Thanks. You need not find the OEM cartridge to enjoy your Onkyo, and Onkyo like no longer makes or sells any cartridges, as I don't know if they even have turntables in their product lineup anymore. However, there are some basic sites I recommend for information on good replacements, and belts if you have one: http://www.ewsaunders.com/ http://www.theturntablefactory.com/index.html http://www.garage-a-records.com/index.php http://www.vinylengine.com/ http://www.vintage-electronics.net/ www.shure.com has new cartridges, but a lot of the used cartridges you can find don't have OEM replacements available except in the case that you find New Old Stock, perhaps at an online auction. Grado, Ortofon, Stanton/Pickering and Audiotechnica are names I know and are fine depending on your needs and budget. In reality, modern cartridges don't exactly wear out so if the needle is replaceable, find the best replacement you can, make sure you setup and align the cartridge properly and keep you records clean and static free. Also note there are two types of cartridges you can deal with for you unit, moving magnet/MM/magnetic (most common) and moving coil/MC which requires either a built-in circuit or a separate phono preamp to use with most amps and receivers. More new stereos lack a phono circuit altogether and you MUST buy a phono preamp of the correct type in this case. NOTE: DO NOT USE OTHER INPUTS THROUGH A PHONO INPUT. Line voltage of line inputs may damage your phono input stage! This is not a cheap thing to fix sometimes. eBay seller hifi-trainer and others occasionally offer NIB Watts Parostatik disc preeners for sale. You put a small amount of distilled water on the wick and replace it in the preener, then place it over the spinning record to pick up dirt and impart some anti-static properties to the disc. This is a neat little gizmo and effective, the basic cleaning tool you should need at the least, and there are copies...Watts I understand went out of business in the 1980s but sold them for over 20 years. PS www.audiokarma.org has a turntable and vinyl forum, but they seem to talk about high end tables more than I care for, and the first two are run by folks that deal with stuff you and I will use. Enjoy your Onkyo, whichever cartridge (or replacement needle) you choose. I have seen one of their turntables at a pawn recently, and they look as capable as the classic TX-2500 receiver I own. Article: 340239 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: GE P780E Transistor Set Date: 20 Aug 2006 18:11:57 -0700 Message-ID: <1156122716.989529.271340@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1155957141.786906.158280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> robert casey wrote: > > > > Aware of that, hasn't existed on commercial radio here since the 1990s > > and the public station killed it a long time ago. My AMS-modded 5050 > > blew all it's fuses and my Sony with it's mods belongs to my boss now. > > > > I used a Sony SRF42 inside a digitally tuned AM receiver to do AMS, but > nobody does AMS around here anymore. So I converted it to become an AM > synchronous detector circuit. The AMS demod chip has a separate input > to run the local AM sync detector oscillator, so I introduced a 90 > degree phase shift circuit ahead of it. Now the L-R output became a > sync detected main signal (mono) output. And then I skipped over a > multiplexer circuit downstream. See > http://pw2.netcom.com/~wa2ise/radios/amstmod.html#syncdet A lot of good AMS chips were used by automakers to build some really good sounding MONO car AM sections...the biggest irony of AM stereo perhaps. Article: 340240 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Kansas City Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 20:06:57 -0500 Message-ID: <4786-44E90731-578@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <12ehis89g3ek737@corp.supernews.com> I have been to both of those Kansas City's before.One of them,twice.y'all want my autograph? cuhulin Article: 340241 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: need cartridge for Onkyo CP 101A Date: 20 Aug 2006 18:18:41 -0700 Message-ID: <1156123121.115259.198340@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1156118726.595890.85230@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > justin.creasy@gmail.com wrote: > > Hello, I need a cartridge for my Onkyo CP 101A. On the back of the > > record player I see DN 74 ST. I have found cartridges that are very > > close (DN 72 ST). I am sure that I have the number right and the DN 72 > > ST looks somewhat different from my broken cartridge. > > > > I have tried looking on all the sites I find by googling. Anyone know > > where I can find a new cartridge? Thanks. > > You need not find the OEM cartridge to enjoy your Onkyo, and Onkyo like > no longer makes or sells any cartridges, as I don't know if they even > have turntables in their product lineup anymore. And YES, if you do your homework, there are some generic substitutions for many needles. This will cause a lot of howling among some purists, but Ed Saunders has been selling phono products most of his life, and if he says it works, trust him. Any man who painted a pair of speakers plaid once is an open, honest soul to me: ) Article: 340242 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Tube Tester Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 21:47:38 -0400 Message-ID: <12ei460r9je3171@corp.supernews.com> References: If it's only for old radio and TV work then any of the older Hickoks is a great investment. They're usually quite reasonable as deep-pocketed audiophile types generally stick to the biggest and newest Hickoks. John H. Article: 340243 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve" Subject: Flea market find; Navy REO 'morale' radio Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:50:04 -0700 Message-ID: <44e9114e$0$96179$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> After hearing of all of the great buys some of you find, its my turn! Picked up a very nice Navy model REO 'morale' radio, built by Crosley. Nice wood cabinet painted Navy grey. The coolest thing is the tag that says "WARNING: do not use aborad ship, unsafe radiation limits". Hahahaha.... Probably used to listen to Tokyo Rose in the closing days of WWII. Does anyone else have one of these? In all of my years of collecting I've never seen another. Steve p.s.-its a broadcast band only AC/DC radio Article: 340244 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: patrick jankowiak Subject: Re: Simulating Neon Bulb Glow Using LED References: <1155488440.154874.15590@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <44E524C8.40701@swbell.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 01:51:06 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: >>Using one or more theatrical-type lighting filters in front of a >>suitable LED might help. You can sometimes get a filter swatch >>book free from a theatrical supply. One swatch, about 1.25x2.5", >>would do many LEDs. You could cut out some of the red. > > > This generally won't work, because LEDs don't have a broad spectrum. > > Thank you for reminding me, of all people I should have remembered. Pity, eh? well maybe it will be useful to someone. Article: 340245 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Blacksmith Subject: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:14:23 -0400 Message-ID: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> Not mine. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270017418926&fromMakeTrack=true Blacksmith wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom Article: 340246 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim Strickland" Subject: Re: Flea market find; Navy REO 'morale' radio Date: 20 Aug 2006 19:50:07 -0700 Message-ID: <1156128607.388578.206350@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <44e9114e$0$96179$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Steve wrote: > After hearing of all of the great buys some of you find, its > my turn! > > Picked up a very nice Navy model REO 'morale' radio, > built by Crosley. Nice wood cabinet painted Navy grey. > The coolest thing is the tag that says "WARNING: do > not use aborad ship, unsafe radiation limits". Hahahaha.... > Probably used to listen to Tokyo Rose in the closing days > of WWII. > > Does anyone else have one of these? In all of my > years of collecting I've never seen another. > > Steve > p.s.-its a broadcast band only AC/DC radio The radiation they're talking about is RF emission, on the broadcast frequency for regens, and on the oscillator frequency for superhets. These emissions would give the enemy a way to home in on the ship. In case you were wondering. :) -Jim Article: 340247 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "PTurney" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: 20 Aug 2006 19:59:52 -0700 Message-ID: <1156129192.715324.296320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> Paul Dietenberger wrote: >To appreciate a radio solely for its engineering is to ignore > other factors that make people enjoy and collect radios. In other words, you > can type till your fingers fall off about the failings of Zenith radios > compared to its competitors of the era, but you won't change the minds of > those who appreciate the brand. To continue to harp on it tends to end up > looking like either jealousy or dickwaving. I'm not sure what's to be gained > by disrespecting any radio. It's not your money, what do you care what other > people spend it on? Paul, I think you have missed the point. Jealousy is an emotion expressed by those who may desire something but who do not possess the means to have it. I own a significant number of Zeniths, many with high tube count, and am very fond of the aesthetics. Some of my sets can be seen here:- http://www.tuberadioland.com/zenithmain_alt1.html. Some of these I've paid dearly for and others I've come across for a song. I continue to seek out desirable Zeniths as well as other makes. I and others here are perfectly entitled to pass personal judgement on the engineering quality of our radios. For me, part of the fun of this hobby is delving into the circuit details and doing just that. My statements, at least, are not made from a position of prejudice but rather are an open-minded and candid judgement of sets that I own, as I perceive them. Paul Article: 340248 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: 20 Aug 2006 20:43:55 -0700 Message-ID: <1156131835.145066.281250@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> PTurney wrote: > Paul Dietenberger wrote: > >To appreciate a radio solely for its engineering is to ignore > > other factors that make people enjoy and collect radios. In other words, you > > can type till your fingers fall off about the failings of Zenith radios > > compared to its competitors of the era, but you won't change the minds of > > those who appreciate the brand. To continue to harp on it tends to end up > > looking like either jealousy or dickwaving. I'm not sure what's to be gained > > by disrespecting any radio. It's not your money, what do you care what other > > people spend it on? > > > Paul, > > I think you have missed the point. Jealousy is an emotion expressed by > those who may desire something but who do not possess the means to have > it. I own a significant number of Zeniths, many with high tube count, > and am very fond of the aesthetics. Some of my sets can be seen here:- > http://www.tuberadioland.com/zenithmain_alt1.html. Some of these I've > paid dearly for and others I've come across for a song. I continue to > seek out desirable Zeniths as well as other makes. > > I and others here are perfectly entitled to pass personal judgement on > the engineering quality of our radios. For me, part of the fun of this > hobby is delving into the circuit details and doing just that. My > statements, at least, are not made from a position of prejudice but > rather are an open-minded and candid judgement of sets that I own, as I > perceive them. > > Paul I'm fond of turning them on and listening myself. It's all good. And then again, it's all good. Rather monotonous but fun. Article: 340249 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <44e9114e$0$96179$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <1156128607.388578.206350@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Flea market find; Navy REO 'morale' radio Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:24:47 -0700 Message-ID: > The radiation they're talking about is RF emission, on the broadcast > frequency for regens, and on the oscillator frequency for superhets. > These emissions would give the enemy a way to home in on the ship. E.H. Scott manufactured a WWII BC/SW morale receiver with extra shielding for that very reason. http://www.antiqueradio.org/art/temp/Scott_SLRM_Ad.jpg I have seen a couple at swap meets. They are VERY heavy and owners advise that you run them with the chassis slightly pulled out (assuming you have a case) to improve ventilation. Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 340250 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: When radios lost their legs Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 05:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Recently someone had asked when the "modern" console first appeared. I came across this page about the history of DeForest: http://chem.ch.huji.ac.il/~eugeniik/history/deforest.htm About halfway down there's a chronological procession of a few DeForest radios, including several floor models. Highboys from 1929, 1931, early 30's, then... boom! A modern console in 1935. It's quite striking to see them lined up like this. Stylistic upheavals that come out of the blue from cultural phenomena are quite interesting. This particular transition (full disclosure: it happens to have brought about a style near and dear to my heart) I would guess sprang from the rising prominence of Hollywood, and the influence of designers like Gibbons in the upbeat happy-days- ahead crowd pleasers of Busby Berkeley. Style changes that result from a major political event, such as WWII, are easier to understand, but grim to contemplate. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340251 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 05:55:30 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156076447.154882.91270@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <4w0Gg.144572$1i1.74913@attbi_s72> <12ehf2lsg7tgha4@corp.supernews.com> In <12ehf2lsg7tgha4@corp.supernews.com> "Hagstar" writes: >Thanks John for that summation, I really didn't communicate properly here >that PREFERENCE is one thing, PREJUDICE another. It's fine that Zenith is >coveted by people, it's the way some collectors equate selling price as >representing the whole and entire worth of something. It's fine to love >something if you don't have to lower something else in the process- as so >often happens. There's usually no In crowd without a defining Out crowd. So >if you bring a huge fancy RCA console to a swap meet it just sits there in >my experience until some non-collector buys it for his dad. It's entirely possible Zeniths are popular for a more far-fetched reason: lots of people like they way they look. Aesthetics aren't the only reason for me to buy a radio, but it's far and away number one in my book. The first console I bought was a Zenith 12S265 because after seeing lots and lots of pictures I thought it was the hottest looking set out there. >Paul's right I could take a more positive approach and write a Stromberg >guide or GE guide, but that does seem a tall order. I mean really- look at >'The Professors" book and then look at the Philco guide or the Stein books. I know things always sound easy when you're telling someone else to do them, but I'll second Paul's nomination of you to write a book. As he said, you write well. It's unfortunately rare in our field of interest to find someone who has the combination you do of being well-spoken and knowing the subject. The result could be a book that's not only informative, but an actual pleasure to read, for collectors and non-collectors alike. >As Alan Douglas said to me years ago, 1/2 of collecting is pure snobbery. Heh. Probably half of life is snobbery. All started when someone got a bigger cave than someone else and someone else just couldn't stand that. I think you're barking up the wrong tree in this instance. C'mon, while nice and above-market compared to plain-jane consoles, Zeniths are hardly the {ahem} zenith in that kind of game. Anybody so motivated has a lot of other choices that are much rarer and much more pricey. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340252 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: No Radios @ the Flea... Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 06:02:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <12eeq2rh3re8990@corp.supernews.com> <1156103682.466614.168260@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <12ehlojae77uda@corp.supernews.com> In <12ehlojae77uda@corp.supernews.com> "Hagstar" writes: >> Hagstar wrote: >>> ...but I got 4 of these, 3 of which work. They came in a carton dated >>> 1944 >>> and marked clearly "DOD Blackout Bulbs" with contract numbers etc. >>> from Sparks Worthington, not GE though this GE bulb box is inside- >I tried one out last night, while listening to some Glenn Miller on the >XX-XVI. You can't really read or even move about much by one- it must be >about two candlepower- and DOD only allowed one per room. It's odd they >blacked out all but a small dot on the end of a 20 watt orange bulb instead >of just using those little 7.5 watt jobbies with a dark orange coating. I'd always thought the idea was so light would shine in one direction only. If they dropped the wattage it'd =really= be dim. 'Course, the right way to design such a bulb would be with an internal reflector, ala a spotlight. I guess that was too expensive at that time, and would've been a much more extensive re-tooling of the production line when they needed to get these things out right away. Since it's not reflective, but black (!), that coating must get hot! >think they must have done a lot of drinking and ah, napping during blackout >drills. The post-war baby boom probably wasn't entirely due to returning GI's. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340253 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Noble" Subject: nice 16 amp variac FA Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 23:23:19 -0700 Message-ID: <44e94430$0$1779$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> here's the link http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=020&item=300019881066 nice variac, nice case, in wooden box - should handle any radio needs you have with no risk of inadvertant burnout (it's a 2 KW variac). -- bill to email me, to to my web page, www.wbnoble.com and find my email or unscramble the following by removing spaces and correcting the obvious spelling errors wil lia m_b_n obl e at msn daught com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 340254 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: nice 16 amp variac FA References: <44e94430$0$1779$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 06:32:52 GMT William Noble wrote: > nice variac, nice case, in wooden box - should handle any radio > needs you have with no risk of inadvertant burnout (it's a 2 KW > variac). They look even more impressive when they're mounted on a rack panel with a nice big "steering wheel" knob. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 340255 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: 21 Aug 2006 04:39:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1156160352.969962.275240@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> Tim Mullen wrote. after Lila Wallace sikked her editors on it: > I think you're barking up the wrong tree in this instance. C'mon, while > nice and above-market compared to plain-jane consoles, Zeniths are hardly > the {ahem} zenith in that kind of game. Anybody so motivated has a lot > of other choices that are much rarer and much more pricey. It's purty though, and don't you even suspect how depressed the market would've been without Zenith's unique cabinet lines and flashy metals, plastics and glass allowing some of the others the freedom to dream? Enough makers disappeared before WWII as it was. Is the analogy to an early Apple Computer a fair one for me to offer? How about Schwinn? Article: 340256 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" References: Subject: Re: Zenith 7S685 Phono Cartrige and Needle Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 08:07:19 -0400 Try http://www.west-techservices.com/index.htm "Dave Fase" wrote in message news:qE4Gg.531$fX4.39@newsfe05.lga... > Would like to buy replacements. Anyone familiar with the set > who might make a recommdation? Aloha, Dave Fase > > Article: 340257 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "dave@hurtle.com" Subject: Re: Would the Nudo Group please join their party in Hell and get the Fashuggina out of Dodge? Date: 21 Aug 2006 06:45:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1156167910.431759.106430@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Steven wrote: > Why aren't you dealing with it somewhere else???? Does anybody else see the irony in Dinus requesting the distruptive, off-topic posters to go somewhere else? Article: 340258 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:53:46 -0400 Message-ID: <12ejenf4svmdvc4@news.supernews.com> References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> Worth it just for the 8track player alone... Article: 340259 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Litz wire in TRF's- will it work? Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:09:20 -0400 Message-ID: Has anyone rewound TRF tuning coils with Litz wire? It should work for individually tuned tanks, but will the Q be too high for use in a gang-tuned set? If no one has tried Litz, what's a good source for cloth wound magnet wire to be used on AK's, etc? Here's hoping for continued silence from DeserTBoob, -Pete Article: 340260 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve" References: <44e9114e$0$96179$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <1156128607.388578.206350@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Flea market find; Navy REO 'morale' radio Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 07:22:24 -0700 Message-ID: <44e9c1a2$0$96225$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Jim, I realize what the warning was for. I thought it was funny because these days, that tag would draw a LOT of attention. Steve "Jim Strickland" wrote in message news:1156128607.388578.206350@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Steve wrote: >> After hearing of all of the great buys some of you find, its >> my turn! >> >> Picked up a very nice Navy model REO 'morale' radio, >> built by Crosley. Nice wood cabinet painted Navy grey. >> The coolest thing is the tag that says "WARNING: do >> not use aborad ship, unsafe radiation limits". Hahahaha.... >> Probably used to listen to Tokyo Rose in the closing days >> of WWII. >> >> Does anyone else have one of these? In all of my >> years of collecting I've never seen another. >> >> Steve >> p.s.-its a broadcast band only AC/DC radio > > The radiation they're talking about is RF emission, on the broadcast > frequency for regens, and on the oscillator frequency for superhets. > These emissions would give the enemy a way to home in on the ship. In > case you were wondering. :) > > -Jim > Article: 340261 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: I'm realigning my upper AM band, Dave Date: 21 Aug 2006 07:27:28 -0700 Message-ID: <1156170448.490003.254580@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> dave@hurtle.com wrote: > Steven wrote: > > Why aren't you dealing with it somewhere else???? > > Does anybody else see the irony in Dinus requesting the distruptive, > off-topic posters to go somewhere else? Dinius, no. Like I'm a scapegoat, bite your tongue. I'm trying to straighten out the upper IF on my HK230A as it is a twin dial, right as rain on FM and AM until I get to around 1200 then 1380 is at 1260 and nothing 1200-13xx below (1260 and 1350). I have the manual, plenty of instructions and I'm just locating the right transformer to rock it back up and hopefully there is a correct tool in the stuff Johnny gave me a while back. Since this is my first time and I'm selling it this week, I'm taking time to study it. Article: 340262 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Reed Park" References: Subject: Re: Crosley 516(radio from hell) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:56:21 GMT "Paul" wrote in message news:Xns9824EB99EC069nospamallnet@24.70.95.211... > Yippee - it works plays excellent! > I re-wired things right and what do you know it works! > I'll post a picture of it in the other group soon, it is my first time > using toned lacquer I got it right after the 3rd attempt but everything > came together with this radio in the end, cabinet and electronic! > > I'm very happy! > > Paul Congratulations Paul. It's a bloody great feeling when something we spend a bunch of time and effort on, is once again working. Regards Reed (retired radio tech) ----- ARROW Research - (CF-105 Avro Arrow) Reed Park 916 Pre-d'en-Haut Street Memramcook, New Brunswick Canada E4K 1L1 (506)758-3128 - home (506)874-9021 - cell Amateur Radio Station VE1NU Member of the W.S. #19 Group GPS co-ordinates N 45 57.751 W 64 37.497 Article: 340263 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: 21 Aug 2006 08:01:41 -0700 Message-ID: <1156172501.875944.163270@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> Buck Frobisher wrote: > Worth it just for the 8track player alone... I want a REAL, working radio station stereo cartridge setup with at least four decks and some fresh carts, that is what I WANT... But not an IGM carousel (PLEASE NO)... Article: 340264 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Are you helping or hindering my grocery money here? Date: 21 Aug 2006 08:10:55 -0700 Message-ID: <1156173055.570855.153000@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> I'm studying a pdf, I don't want to mess up the band that was fine finding the adjustment pot. I can probably do two table sets for gifts this season tonight while I'm at it. For those who are about to chime about me being a fat fuck who ate his girlfriend, I recall your dick is broken too. Better to chip in than cop out. Article: 340265 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: 21 Aug 2006 08:18:40 -0700 Message-ID: <1156173520.384483.50430@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> > > I think you have missed the point. Jealousy is an emotion expressed by > those who may desire something but who do not possess the means to have > it. I own a significant number of Zeniths, many with high tube count, > and am very fond of the aesthetics. Some of my sets can be seen here:- > http://www.tuberadioland.com/zenithmain_alt1.html. Some of these I've > paid dearly for and others I've come across for a song. I continue to > seek out desirable Zeniths as well as other makes. > > I and others here are perfectly entitled to pass personal judgement on > the engineering quality of our radios. For me, part of the fun of this > hobby is delving into the circuit details and doing just that. My > statements, at least, are not made from a position of prejudice but > rather are an open-minded and candid judgement of sets that I own, as I > perceive them. > > Paul you can also see jealousy when one person covets another persons ability to justify things that he cannot. in other words, he can afford it, but he just can't justify the cash outlay in his mind. Article: 340266 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Are you helping or hindering my grocery money here? Date: 21 Aug 2006 08:20:31 -0700 Message-ID: <1156173631.920752.192030@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Steven wrote: > I'm studying a pdf, I don't want to mess up the band that was fine > finding the adjustment pot. I can probably do two table sets for gifts > this season tonight while I'm at it. > > For those who are about to chime about me being a fat fuck who ate his > girlfriend, I recall your dick is broken too. Better to chip in than > cop out. Have to trim the antenna too. Article: 340267 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: 21 Aug 2006 08:26:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1156173970.170332.38600@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> They have no imagination or perseverence. Poppycock. Let them whine while I get it or make it. Article: 340268 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44E9D5CB.41A67F6B@cox.net> From: Craig Smith Subject: Navy transmitter TDD-5 ???? Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:48:27 -0400 Anyone ever heard of [or know anything about] a post war Navy Transmitter TDD-5 ... type CBUA-52258-D .... didn't see any reference on the Web at all??? .. about a 4' tall rack cabinet with a LONG antenna inductor .. long wave transmitter maybe? Only has a pair of 6L6 metal tubes for output so not much power .. taking it to the Rochester AWA meet Thursday if anyone is interested. Thanks, Craig Smith Please reply to ip500@cox.net rather than posting an answer here as I'll be on the road all week. Article: 340269 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: Subject: Re: When radios lost their legs Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:06:26 -0400 Message-ID: yes, 1935 was THE year that the legs just about totally disappeared. You still see a few sets with them after that but they are very short if any at all, and usually we call them "feet". One of the few post 1935 sets to have legs are the 15-U-273 Zeniths of 1938 in the "Georgian" cabinet I think they called it. The first "modern" cabinets with no legs appeared around 1932-33 IIRC. Philco had the model 15X then. The Europeans were ahead of us on this, as per usual. Mark Oppat "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:ecbgko$7r1$1@reader2.panix.com... > > Recently someone had asked when the "modern" console first > appeared. I came across this page about the history of DeForest: > > http://chem.ch.huji.ac.il/~eugeniik/history/deforest.htm > > About halfway down there's a chronological procession of a few > DeForest radios, including several floor models. Highboys from > 1929, 1931, early 30's, then... boom! A modern console in 1935. > > It's quite striking to see them lined up like this. Stylistic > upheavals that come out of the blue from cultural phenomena are > quite interesting. This particular transition (full disclosure: > it happens to have brought about a style near and dear to my heart) > I would guess sprang from the rising prominence of Hollywood, and > the influence of designers like Gibbons in the upbeat happy-days- > ahead crowd pleasers of Busby Berkeley. > > Style changes that result from a major political event, such > as WWII, are easier to understand, but grim to contemplate. > > -- > Tim Mullen > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. > ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- > Article: 340270 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1154482416.063476.246370@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154556273.855282.81140@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154596293.127423.234110@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154602427.506876.102850@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1154638284.566159.11910@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154661884.091321.122590@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154804668.336890.260530@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154827349.198320.44090@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154993429.114318.155650@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155600109.397626.276900@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155603927.281524.94500@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1155646129.530241.222500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <7%kEg.3207$zg.1962@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1155694728.312665.228270@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Someone in Kentucky...He has split the lot up now/PLEASE NOTE MY BID Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:09:58 GMT "Steven" wrote in message news:1155694728.312665.228270@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > jim menning wrote: > >> He obviously hasn't learned the strategical and real benefits of placing a single >> bid >> in the last seconds of an auction. Why show your interest early, and allow others >> the opportunity to nickle & dime the bid higher? >> > Via the Animals: It's my bid, and I'll do what I want. Quit picking at > my strategy. You haven't been bidding on them (or trying to for four > years). Whether or not they are common, this one I hope will be the > last one I need to look at. > http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=190020104248 Your strategy failed, exactly for the reason I listed previously. Bid only once, in the last seconds of the auction, with the highest amount you are willing to pay. In the long run you'll end up winning more auctions at lower cost. Had you not been in a hurry to bid on that particular seller's auctions, you could probably have won one of these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270017841780 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160017587459 jim menning Article: 340271 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "dave" Subject: Help with open reel playback (slightly OT?) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:12:33 GMT Hello, I am not sure if this is a good forum for this inquiry, or if one exists, but here goes: I am trying to play back a very old open-reel tape recording for a friend of mine. It has some home recordings of deceased family members, etc. So basically I am trying to do audio archiving for him. I own several old open reel machines which generally have not seen much use to this point and I am certainly no expert on the format. The problem I am having is that the audio in the track/tracks where the voices are recorded has a severe 60 Hz hum over top of it. The hum is very even in amplitude and is so strong that it sounds like it is modulating the fairly faint voices underneath. I am recording to my computer and have tried filtering the hum out with software but the audio is still garbled >from the strong 60 Hz signal. I am thinking that the head on the machine that was used to record these voice tracks was aligned a little off to one side or something like that and that I might be able to get a much cleaner take if I were able to move the head on one of my machines to align better with the track. I am not talking about azimuth angle but actual side to side alignment. I am not sure if this even makes sense but it is the only thing I could think of. If anybody has a better idea on this topic, I would be most appreciative hearing from you. thanks, Dave Article: 340272 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: 21 Aug 2006 09:26:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1156177613.565236.87360@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> Eddie Brimer wrote: > you can also see jealousy when one person covets another persons > ability to justify things that he cannot. in other words, he can afford > it, but he just can't justify the cash outlay in his mind. Eddie: I cannot justify the outlay for _any_ vintage radio... obsolete technology, heavy, power consumption and so forth. But given that this is a hobby, I need no such thing. I also happen to find that any given vintage radio that is reasonably well made and designed, given a decent antenna, can do many things such that a second (or third) stage is seldom required, these days anyway. All it really needs to do is get some SW at night, all the clear-channel stations, and a clean signal from the AMT3000... after that, it is bragging rights. Like horsepower... Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 340273 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Someone in Kentucky...He has split the lot up now/PLEASE NOTE MY BID Date: 21 Aug 2006 09:35:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1156178144.049651.98370@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: The seller was willing to work on the payment, some now the rest on the 1st. I bid 104.00 and he won at 106, and he also made ONLY ONE BID. Oh well, so why do you think I'm crying in my Cheerios? I bid all I wanted to, and I really wasn't anxious to break him that badly because 20% down would start to become ridiculous after a while. I didn't feel comfortable running bids after 100, and I couldn't do it on another auction. I let it go also because my needs shifted this weekend so it made no sense to go higher than 104. Go watch football if you want to be an armchair QB, please. I make no drastic exceptions in the way I bid. Now I'm TIRED at the moment and I've been working on a set...I'm almost there but I need to use the food bank and sleep and finish. This is grocery money of a small order. Article: 340274 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: MAGNETAPHON Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:35:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3482-44E9E0E7-574@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> THE HISTORY CHANNEL JUST RAN A HISTORY OF THE 1935 AEG MAGNETAPHON WTH SAMPLES OF ITS QUALITY ALONG WITH THE 1939 EDITION WITH THE IMPROVEMENT OF AC BIAS, THIS WITH AN EXAMPLE OF ITS GREAT IMPROVEMENT. ALSO INCLUDED WAS A TAPE OF THE 1946 MACHINE THAT WAS USED IN MAKING THE FIRST BING CROSBY SHOW ON TAPE. THE FIRST MACHINES USED THE FLAT DISK BASE WITH A HUB AND NO TOP THE SAME AS THAT REFERED TO IN MY POST OF A WEEK OR SO AGO. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 340275 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Help with open reel playback (slightly OT?) Date: 21 Aug 2006 09:55:30 -0700 Message-ID: <1156179330.240903.85650@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: dave wrote: > Hello, > > I am not sure if this is a good forum for this inquiry, or if one exists, > but here goes: > > I am trying to play back a very old open-reel tape recording for a friend of > mine. It has some home recordings of deceased family members, etc. So > basically I am trying to do audio archiving for him. I own several old open > reel machines which generally have not seen much use to this point and I am > certainly no expert on the format. > > The problem I am having is that the audio in the track/tracks where the > voices are recorded has a severe 60 Hz hum over top of it. The hum is very > even in amplitude and is so strong that it sounds like it is modulating the > fairly faint voices underneath. I am recording to my computer and have > tried filtering the hum out with software but the audio is still garbled > from the strong 60 Hz signal. I am thinking that the head on the machine > that was used to record these voice tracks was aligned a little off to one > side or something like that and that I might be able to get a much cleaner > take if I were able to move the head on one of my machines to align better > with the track. I am not talking about azimuth angle but actual side to > side alignment. I am not sure if this even makes sense but it is the only > thing I could think of. If anybody has a better idea on this topic, I would > be most appreciative hearing from you. > > > thanks, > > Dave I think alignment probably doesn't have anything to do with the problem. Poor grounding in either the signal path or recording amplifier, bad bias circuitry, a partly open head...the reality of everything may well be that the recorder worked correctly and the signal was bad, in which case you have a perfect recording of a flawed recording. Give no miracles popping up soon you will likely have to inform them that, unless you had faulty equipment, they have a tape that at best could be made intelligible but not corrected and that it might be expensive to pursue the endeavor so could they settle for intelligible and for the context of the recording without the hope of correcting what was bad to begin with? Strictly for posterity. Article: 340276 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: MAGNETAPHON Date: 21 Aug 2006 09:57:58 -0700 Message-ID: <1156179478.441829.162300@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <3482-44E9E0E7-574@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> Bill Turner wrote: > THE HISTORY CHANNEL JUST RAN A HISTORY OF THE 1935 AEG MAGNETAPHON WTH > SAMPLES OF ITS QUALITY ALONG WITH THE 1939 EDITION WITH THE IMPROVEMENT > OF AC BIAS, THIS WITH AN EXAMPLE OF ITS GREAT IMPROVEMENT. ALSO > INCLUDED WAS A TAPE OF THE 1946 MACHINE THAT WAS USED IN MAKING THE > FIRST BING CROSBY SHOW ON TAPE. THE FIRST MACHINES USED THE FLAT DISK > BASE WITH A HUB AND NO TOP THE SAME AS THAT REFERED TO IN MY POST OF A > WEEK OR SO AGO. > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. I saw that special a couple of times...it was excellent. Yes, "pancake" style was preferred for many years when decks sat horizontal. Article: 340277 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "dave" References: <1156179330.240903.85650@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Help with open reel playback (slightly OT?) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:14:00 GMT Hi Steven, Thanks for responding. Thats what I was afraid of, but I am still trying to determine if I even have the proper equipment for playback. I suspect that I need a 1/2 track machine. I will have to do some more digging and if I cant get a good take off the tape, I will have to clean the bass off the sound with software and present the recording as-is. thanks again, Dave "Steven" wrote in message news:1156179330.240903.85650@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > dave wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I am not sure if this is a good forum for this inquiry, or if one exists, > > but here goes: > > > > I am trying to play back a very old open-reel tape recording for a friend of > > mine. It has some home recordings of deceased family members, etc. So > > basically I am trying to do audio archiving for him. I own several old open > > reel machines which generally have not seen much use to this point and I am > > certainly no expert on the format. > > > > The problem I am having is that the audio in the track/tracks where the > > voices are recorded has a severe 60 Hz hum over top of it. The hum is very > > even in amplitude and is so strong that it sounds like it is modulating the > > fairly faint voices underneath. I am recording to my computer and have > > tried filtering the hum out with software but the audio is still garbled > > from the strong 60 Hz signal. I am thinking that the head on the machine > > that was used to record these voice tracks was aligned a little off to one > > side or something like that and that I might be able to get a much cleaner > > take if I were able to move the head on one of my machines to align better > > with the track. I am not talking about azimuth angle but actual side to > > side alignment. I am not sure if this even makes sense but it is the only > > thing I could think of. If anybody has a better idea on this topic, I would > > be most appreciative hearing from you. > > > > > > thanks, > > > > Dave > > I think alignment probably doesn't have anything to do with the > problem. Poor grounding in either the signal path or recording > amplifier, bad bias circuitry, a partly open head...the reality of > everything may well be that the recorder worked correctly and the > signal was bad, in which case you have a perfect recording of a flawed > recording. Give no miracles popping up soon you will likely have to > inform them that, unless you had faulty equipment, they have a tape > that at best could be made intelligible but not corrected and that it > might be expensive to pursue the endeavor so could they settle for > intelligible and for the context of the recording without the hope of > correcting what was bad to begin with? Strictly for posterity. > Article: 340278 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <44e9114e$0$96179$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <1156128607.388578.206350@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e9c1a2$0$96225$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Subject: Re: Flea market find; Navy REO 'morale' radio Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:18:47 GMT This brings up an interesting thought -- I know there were a few TRF military radios in use on ships, and the TRF design was exactly for the purpose of non-radiation. But were there "morale" radios out there in a TRF design? This has me curious. I'm sure a lot of TRF radios were still in homes during the period, and it would be almost nothing to take a table radio -- except -- it would need to receive short wave. I don't know if any short wave TRF's were made, but I bet it would be fun to try and tune it. A shipboard TRF would probably have to be preset ahead of time for whatever frequency they would want to listen to. If more than one frequency, possibly a channel selector. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Steve" wrote in message news:44e9c1a2$0$96225$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net... > Jim, > I realize what the warning was for. I thought it was funny > because these days, that tag would draw a LOT of attention. > > Steve > > "Jim Strickland" wrote in message > news:1156128607.388578.206350@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> >> Steve wrote: >>> After hearing of all of the great buys some of you find, its >>> my turn! >>> >>> Picked up a very nice Navy model REO 'morale' radio, >>> built by Crosley. Nice wood cabinet painted Navy grey. >>> The coolest thing is the tag that says "WARNING: do >>> not use aborad ship, unsafe radiation limits". Hahahaha.... >>> Probably used to listen to Tokyo Rose in the closing days >>> of WWII. >>> >>> Does anyone else have one of these? In all of my >>> years of collecting I've never seen another. >>> >>> Steve >>> p.s.-its a broadcast band only AC/DC radio >> >> The radiation they're talking about is RF emission, on the broadcast >> frequency for regens, and on the oscillator frequency for superhets. >> These emissions would give the enemy a way to home in on the ship. In >> case you were wondering. :) >> >> -Jim >> > > Article: 340279 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <3482-44E9E0E7-574@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: MAGNETAPHON Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:20:56 -0700 Message-ID: If you visit the Pavek Museum of Broadcasting in St. Louis Park, MN ( http://www.pavekmuseum.org/ ), you can see a "Bing" machine from the late 1940s. http://antiqueradio.org/art/temp/BingCrosbyAmpex.jpg Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 340280 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Help with open reel playback (slightly OT?) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:27:08 GMT Hum? I suppose the first question, leaving no stone unturned, is if the hum is coming from your tape player itself. It is easily conceivable to pull out a tape deck that's been sitting in the closet for years, and find an electrolytic has gone bad. If you're absolutely 100% certain that the hum is on the tape itself, there's one more thing to check. How was the tape recorded originally? If the tape is recorded in 4 track stereo, and you're using a 2-track mono player, you may be hearing the original recording -- plus side 2 backwards. I don't know why you would have a hum on side 2, but it can't hurt to check this. Use a 4 track machine to play it back with, so you can separate the tracks if need be. If the hum is definitely in the recording, your only hope is to record and keep a copy, hum and all, then try to remove the hum with computer software. If you can't fix it at least you can improve it, and with an original copy you may find a better way in the future. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "dave" wrote in message news:RXkGg.610$Db4.72247@news1.epix.net... > Hello, > > I am not sure if this is a good forum for this inquiry, or if one exists, > but here goes: > > I am trying to play back a very old open-reel tape recording for a friend > of > mine. It has some home recordings of deceased family members, etc. So > basically I am trying to do audio archiving for him. I own several old > open > reel machines which generally have not seen much use to this point and I > am > certainly no expert on the format. > > The problem I am having is that the audio in the track/tracks where the > voices are recorded has a severe 60 Hz hum over top of it. The hum is > very > even in amplitude and is so strong that it sounds like it is modulating > the > fairly faint voices underneath. I am recording to my computer and have > tried filtering the hum out with software but the audio is still garbled > from the strong 60 Hz signal. I am thinking that the head on the machine > that was used to record these voice tracks was aligned a little off to one > side or something like that and that I might be able to get a much cleaner > take if I were able to move the head on one of my machines to align better > with the track. I am not talking about azimuth angle but actual side to > side alignment. I am not sure if this even makes sense but it is the only > thing I could think of. If anybody has a better idea on this topic, I > would > be most appreciative hearing from you. > > > thanks, > > Dave > > Article: 340281 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <3482-44E9E0E7-574@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: MAGNETAPHON Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:33:18 GMT Remember that truckload of stuff that I obtained back in February? Among the stuff left behind was a studio transcription cutter. I made a comment about it, and he told me I could have it -- and the piece that was sitting next to it. That's when I saw an original Ampex tape recorder! Gee, it might be fun to make up my own "old transcriptions" and tapes, but seriously, what would I do with these things? The two together would take up an entire room. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Bill Turner" wrote in message news:3482-44E9E0E7-574@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net... > THE HISTORY CHANNEL JUST RAN A HISTORY OF THE 1935 AEG MAGNETAPHON WTH > SAMPLES OF ITS QUALITY ALONG WITH THE 1939 EDITION WITH THE IMPROVEMENT > OF AC BIAS, THIS WITH AN EXAMPLE OF ITS GREAT IMPROVEMENT. ALSO > INCLUDED WAS A TAPE OF THE 1946 MACHINE THAT WAS USED IN MAKING THE > FIRST BING CROSBY SHOW ON TAPE. THE FIRST MACHINES USED THE FLAT DISK > BASE WITH A HUB AND NO TOP THE SAME AS THAT REFERED TO IN MY POST OF A > WEEK OR SO AGO. > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. > > > > Article: 340282 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> <12ejenf4svmdvc4@news.supernews.com> <1156172501.875944.163270@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:35:15 GMT Gee, I've got a Spotmaster sitting here -- wondering why I have it. Never bothered to plug it in, or to pull out the cart that's still in it. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Steven" wrote in message news:1156172501.875944.163270@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > Buck Frobisher wrote: >> Worth it just for the 8track player alone... > > I want a REAL, working radio station stereo cartridge setup with at > least four decks and some fresh carts, that is what I WANT... > > But not an IGM carousel (PLEASE NO)... > Article: 340283 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1154596293.127423.234110@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154602427.506876.102850@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1154638284.566159.11910@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154661884.091321.122590@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154804668.336890.260530@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154827349.198320.44090@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154993429.114318.155650@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155600109.397626.276900@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155603927.281524.94500@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1155646129.530241.222500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <7%kEg.3207$zg.1962@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1155694728.312665.228270@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156178144.049651.98370@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Someone in Kentucky...He has split the lot up now/PLEASE NOTE MY BID Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:40:31 GMT "Steven" wrote in message news:1156178144.049651.98370@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > I bid 104.00 and he won at 106, and he also made ONLY ONE BID. Liar. He made TWO bids. And you know he did, because you reacted to his first one, trying to beat it, before he nailed you with a second bid. After his first bid which took the lead away from you, it took you 5 tries to get back into it, in which you failed. He saw you nibbling at his bid in the last minutes, and he entered another bid because you were getting close. That allowed him to stay ahead of you, and then your last bid fell short of his second bid. Had you not started nibbling, and bid the $104 you now claim was the maximum you were willing to pay in the last few seconds of the auction, you would have likely won this auction at $102.50. Your early bidding and constant nibbling gave away any advantage you may have had in the auction. Now all the communications between you, the seller, and the newsgroup have been wasted time for everyone. You can't even take good, logical advice when people do give you a chance. And if you don't like the criticism/advice you got here, remember it is you that brought it all up in the newsgroup telling us of your bidding. jim menning Article: 340284 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Someone in Kentucky...He has split the lot up now/PLEASE NOTE MY BID Date: 21 Aug 2006 10:47:42 -0700 Message-ID: <1156182462.072980.226570@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154602427.506876.102850@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> FUCKING GO TO HELL ALREADY. I'M TIRED AND YOU'RE GLOATING AND I SO DON'T CARE. It's done and you ask like a coach who has been personally let down by a player. I don't care if he made 400 bids. I've ben sitting her waiting to get a ride to the food bank. Jock itch is more important than your stupid argument. Article: 340285 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: 21 Aug 2006 10:50:43 -0700 Message-ID: <1156182643.581109.267510@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> Gary Tayman wrote: > Gee, I've got a Spotmaster sitting here -- wondering why I have it. Never > bothered to plug it in, or to pull out the cart that's still in it. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > "Steven" wrote in message > news:1156172501.875944.163270@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > > > Buck Frobisher wrote: > >> Worth it just for the 8track player alone... > > > > I want a REAL, working radio station stereo cartridge setup with at > > least four decks and some fresh carts, that is what I WANT... > > > > But not an IGM carousel (PLEASE NO)... Talk to me in March, Gary Article: 340286 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: 21 Aug 2006 10:50:48 -0700 Message-ID: <1156182648.319335.163350@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> Gary Tayman wrote: > Gee, I've got a Spotmaster sitting here -- wondering why I have it. Never > bothered to plug it in, or to pull out the cart that's still in it. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > "Steven" wrote in message > news:1156172501.875944.163270@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > > > Buck Frobisher wrote: > >> Worth it just for the 8track player alone... > > > > I want a REAL, working radio station stereo cartridge setup with at > > least four decks and some fresh carts, that is what I WANT... > > > > But not an IGM carousel (PLEASE NO)... Talk to me in March, Gary Article: 340287 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "nesesu" Subject: Re: Litz wire in TRF's- will it work? Date: 21 Aug 2006 11:02:40 -0700 Message-ID: <1156183360.563346.313340@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: Pete, there is no reason that Litz cannot be used on the coils, and I cannot see why it should make much difference in performance compared to the DSC wire that was originally used, since 'skin effect' on that size wire at the broadcast frequencies will be quite small. I have a wire for winding RF coils of the 'Pi' type which is a poly coated magnet wire with an outer wrap of similar 'pinkish' 'celanise' thread as used to wrap Litz, so it is much the same as DSC, but with one poly layer and one fibre layer. I think the spools are marked MWH [MHW?] who show up on Google search 'Litz'. Neil S. Pete_O wrote: > Has anyone rewound TRF tuning coils with Litz wire? It should work for > individually tuned tanks, but will the Q be too high for use in a > gang-tuned set? > > If no one has tried Litz, what's a good source for cloth wound magnet wire > to be used on AK's, etc? > > Here's hoping for continued silence from DeserTBoob, -Pete Article: 340288 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Someone in Kentucky...He has split the lot up now/PLEASE NOTE MY BID Date: 21 Aug 2006 11:17:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1156184233.039870.86800@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154602427.506876.102850@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> jim menning wrote: > Now all the communications between you, the seller, and the newsgroup have been > wasted time for everyone. You can't even take good, logical advice when people do > give you a chance. Who else even bid on anything? I asked Terry if anybody was bidding against me in the first place. And so much for all the folks who chime in that it's easy come and go! Why are you so queerly interested anyway? > > And if you don't like the criticism/advice you got here, remember it is you that > brought it all up in the newsgroup telling us of your bidding. Your criticism didn't mean anything in the first place. It's just a damned auction, not a deer hunt. You picked the wrong day to fuck up, James. Go back to bed. Article: 340289 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Help with open reel playback (slightly OT?) Date: 21 Aug 2006 11:25:05 -0700 Message-ID: <1156184705.509961.172770@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: dave wrote: If anybody has a better idea on this topic, I would > be most appreciative hearing from you. As Gary suggests, not enough information. First question even before the enumerated ones below: Is the Hum 60hz or 120hz? For the most part, this is not a recorded artifact such that it would be present on a *properly recorded* tape, however old. What comes immediately to mind is a poor erase head imprinting 60hz hum on a tape rather than complete erasure. But that would have been apparent right from the git-go. If the hum is some sort of random buzz, that is different. Does the Original Recording machine have some sort of AVC such that it would boost the level when there was little sound? This, together with poor microphone(s) would explain it. 1. How are the OEM recordings made? Stereo? Mono? And if Mono, where on the tape is center-of-track? 2. Have you made any sort of test in the chosen playback machine(s) to verify their bona-fides? That they are recording and playing back hum-free? 3. If you are using a stereo playback machine, does it make any difference if you play only one track back? 4. And apart from the technical aspects, how were these vintage tapes stored? Even with relatively modern tapes made on relatively modern high-quality machines, poor storage has caused all sorts of difficulties. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 340290 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "woodrails" Subject: Auctions ends today : 1950 Seeburg M100B Jukebox and 1950's Seeburgh Wall-o-matic 100, Wall Box , Rochester, NY Date: 21 Aug 2006 11:58:02 -0700 Message-ID: <1156186682.268620.3370@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Last chance to bid my auction ends on Monday at 8:30 pm east cost time. For my Restored 1950 Seebrug M100B Juke Box and my 1950'S Seeburg Wall-O-Matic 100, WallBox. Thanks to all who checked it out and good luck bidding. here are the Item numbers Item number: 330018350899 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&item=330018350899&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 Item number: 330018350876 http://my.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MyeBay&LogUID=vintagecoinopclassics&CurrentPage=MyeBaySelling&ssPageName=STRK:ME:LNLK Article: 340291 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: Litz wire in TRF's- will it work? Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:30:15 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1156183360.563346.313340@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> I think the spools are marked MWH [MHW?] who show up on Google search 'Litz'. **Thanks Neil; I guess I'm on the right track. Yesterday I found the Litz site "MWS" and have asked for a quote on #28 equiv- that's the same diameter as the AK wire (.018). I'm not going to be winding Pi coils, just the single layer on a metal lathe geared way down. Tnx- Pete Article: 340292 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: It speaks! Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:19:41 -0500 Message-ID: <4786-44EA074D-678@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: All American Five? Thanks.I have ''five'' cuhulin Article: 340293 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Old Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:15:53 -0500 Message-ID: <4786-44EA0669-676@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> wind up phonographs made by furniture compaines aren't worth much money? Maybe so,I own one and I say you need to get a life! cuhulin Article: 340294 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:41:01 -0400 Message-ID: <12ek32min4g6296@corp.supernews.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156129192.715324.296320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156173520.384483.50430@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> I think you're missing the point Eddie. In the Calvinist New England tradition, not buying anything is always good. Buying only that which can be sold tomorrow for the same price or a bit more guarantees one's entrance into heaven. One day I saw a fellow at the flea market had a fishing rod near his sale items (an ancient graphite model quite collectible) that was his own and marked "Not for Sale". A city slicker guy badgered him for a bit wanting to buy it., offering "Just name an amount, I'll pay it". The Vermonter explained again politely it wasn't for sale at ANY price, and when then guy went on and on and began shouting and waving hundreds, he finally slugged him pretty good. We all applauded. Now, I'm hardly a Calvinist, but I see my talents utterly wasted on "pedigree" radios. If anything I'm an RCA/GE collector- it's hard to spend money on those.. I DO now see the point in spending more on less bulk, that much of you has rubbed off on me. But NEVER will I waver from finding money waving as described above unsavoring for many reasons. John H. Article: 340295 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "nesesu" Subject: Re: Help with open reel playback (slightly OT?) Date: 21 Aug 2006 12:52:57 -0700 Message-ID: <1156189977.647498.281550@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: Adding to what others here have said, did you take a 'known good' tape and play that into your computer? I was asked only a couple of days ago if I could pull a couple of home recorded tracks off of a cassette and put it onto a CD. The playback level on the cassette was so low it was down in the noise and I could not get anything decent into the computer, with my limited skills with the program. Neil S. dave wrote: > Hello, > > I am not sure if this is a good forum for this inquiry, or if one exists, > but here goes: > > I am trying to play back a very old open-reel tape recording for a friend of > mine. It has some home recordings of deceased family members, etc. So > basically I am trying to do audio archiving for him. I own several old open > reel machines which generally have not seen much use to this point and I am > certainly no expert on the format. > > The problem I am having is that the audio in the track/tracks where the > voices are recorded has a severe 60 Hz hum over top of it. The hum is very > even in amplitude and is so strong that it sounds like it is modulating the > fairly faint voices underneath. I am recording to my computer and have > tried filtering the hum out with software but the audio is still garbled > from the strong 60 Hz signal. I am thinking that the head on the machine > that was used to record these voice tracks was aligned a little off to one > side or something like that and that I might be able to get a much cleaner > take if I were able to move the head on one of my machines to align better > with the track. I am not talking about azimuth angle but actual side to > side alignment. I am not sure if this even makes sense but it is the only > thing I could think of. If anybody has a better idea on this topic, I would > be most appreciative hearing from you. > > > thanks, > > Dave Article: 340296 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: OT: On the behavior of Cats and Mozart Date: 21 Aug 2006 12:59:25 -0700 Message-ID: <1156190365.759983.128330@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> We have two cats residing with us at the moment, one a 10 year-old male Maine Coon who has been with us to Saudi and back, the other an 8-month old Maine Coon kitten. Last night, I was playing Mozart's C-Minor Mass a Philips recording featuring Kiri Te Kanawa. Usually the cats are pretty placid, especially when Mozart is playing. Last night, however, things were quite different. At the Gloria 'Laudamus te', the kitten, who was in the other room for the very beginning got the zooms, and the older guy joined him... not so much chasing each other as chasing around in general. At the end of the Gloria, both of them leaped onto my lap (a total of 26 pounds of Cat) and settled in a state of alertness. At the Sanctus, they climbed (both again) to the top of the chair, again in a state of alertness, but both purring. At the end, when I put on Beethoven's Triple Concerto, they retired to their usual listening perches, one on each speaker. This was the living room stereo, assembled for simplicity-of-use and electronics concealment: AR integrated amp, Dynaco FM3 tuner, Revox CD player, AR3a speakers. I will repeat the experiment in a couple of days to see if the behavior repeats. I may also try it on the more 'impressive' stereo upstairs. I found the recording stunning (in the positive sense), but the cats clearly detected something that called them in an unusual way. Anyone else have something like this happen? Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA p=2Es.: Mozart - Mass in C minor / Te Kanawa =B7 von Otter =B7 Rolfe Johnson =B7 R. Lloyd =B7 Marriner=20 ASIN: B00000418D Article: 340297 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "nesesu" Subject: Re: Litz wire in TRF's- will it work? Date: 21 Aug 2006 13:03:38 -0700 Message-ID: <1156190618.507399.111500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: MWS, right, Pete. I knwe it was something like that. I was referring to the fact that the 'CEL' wire is much more like that used in the old days for those coils which was, typically, a solid strand of bare copper with two layers of silk [usually green] thus called 'DSC' for double silk covered, rather than the more complicated Litz. I imagine that the 'CEL' is a fair bit cheaper than Litz, since it is MUCH simpler to make. If you only need a small quantity of CEL or Litz, let me know and I can probably send you some. Let me know the overall diameter you need. Relpy direct so I am sure to get your message. Neil S. Pete_O wrote: > I think the spools are marked MWH [MHW?] who show up on Google search > 'Litz'. > > **Thanks Neil; I guess I'm on the right track. Yesterday I found the Litz > site "MWS" and have asked for a quote on #28 equiv- that's the same > diameter as the AK wire (.018). I'm not going to be winding Pi coils, > just the single layer on a metal lathe geared way down. Tnx- Pete Article: 340298 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Art's Antique Radios" Subject: Scott Beam of Light Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:16:50 -0500 Message-ID: <6bKdnaSGG64ziXfZnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com> What exactly is the "Beam of Light" on a Scott Philharmonic and did the chassis come both with and without? Thanks for answering a dumb question Article: 340299 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: Scott Beam of Light Date: 21 Aug 2006 13:35:05 -0700 Message-ID: <1156192505.893448.218510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <6bKdnaSGG64ziXfZnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com> Art's Antique Radios wrote: > What exactly is the "Beam of Light" on a Scott Philharmonic and did the > chassis come both with and without? > > Thanks for answering a dumb question Earlier Philharmonics had a regular white dialpointer. Later versions were like Philco and other dials with a pilot light shining thru a slot in the dial. No dialpointer, but a "beam of light". Article: 340300 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1154602427.506876.102850@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1154638284.566159.11910@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154661884.091321.122590@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154804668.336890.260530@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154827349.198320.44090@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154993429.114318.155650@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155600109.397626.276900@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155603927.281524.94500@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1155646129.530241.222500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <7%kEg.3207$zg.1962@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1155694728.312665.228270@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156178144.049651.98370@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156184233.039870.86800@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Someone in Kentucky...He has split the lot up now/PLEASE NOTE MY BID Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 20:58:00 GMT "Steven" wrote in message news:1156184233.039870.86800@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > jim menning wrote: > >> Now all the communications between you, the seller, and the newsgroup have been >> wasted time for everyone. You can't even take good, logical advice when people do >> give you a chance. > > Who else even bid on anything? I asked Terry if anybody was bidding > against me in the first place. And so much for all the folks who chime > in that it's easy come and go! Why are you so queerly interested > anyway? >> >> And if you don't like the criticism/advice you got here, remember it is you that >> brought it all up in the newsgroup telling us of your bidding. > > Your criticism didn't mean anything in the first place. It's just a > damned auction, not a deer hunt. > > You picked the wrong day to fuck up, James. Go back to bed. > Even when you try to legitimately help this guy, he shows what a worthless piece of crap he is. Have a nice life Steven. A very short one. jim menning Article: 340301 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1154602427.506876.102850@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1154638284.566159.11910@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154661884.091321.122590@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154804668.336890.260530@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154827349.198320.44090@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154993429.114318.155650@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155600109.397626.276900@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155603927.281524.94500@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1155646129.530241.222500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <7%kEg.3207$zg.1962@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1155694728.312665.228270@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156178144.049651.98370@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156182462.072980.226570@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Someone in Kentucky...He has split the lot up now/PLEASE NOTE MY BID Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:00:10 GMT "Steven" wrote in message news:1156182462.072980.226570@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > FUCKING GO TO HELL ALREADY. I'M TIRED AND YOU'RE GLOATING AND I SO > DON'T CARE. > > It's done and you ask like a coach who has been personally let down by > a player. I don't care if he made 400 bids. I've ben sitting her > waiting to get a ride to the food bank. Jock itch is more important > than your stupid argument. > You are always whining here that you have only so much money, someone tries to help you out, and all you do is try to demand more pity. Die already. jim menning Article: 340302 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Someone in Kentucky...He has split the lot up now/PLEASE NOTE MY BID Date: 21 Aug 2006 14:01:46 -0700 Message-ID: <1156194106.041529.188780@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1154638284.566159.11910@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> jim menning wrote: > "Steven" wrote in message > news:1156182462.072980.226570@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > FUCKING GO TO HELL ALREADY. I'M TIRED AND YOU'RE GLOATING AND I SO > > DON'T CARE. > > > > It's done and you ask like a coach who has been personally let down by > > a player. I don't care if he made 400 bids. I've ben sitting her > > waiting to get a ride to the food bank. Jock itch is more important > > than your stupid argument. > > > > You are always whining here that you have only so much money, someone tries to help > you out, and all you do is try to demand more pity. Your idea of nice is pushy and one sided. Game Over. Article: 340303 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Someone in Kentucky...He has split the lot up now/PLEASE NOTE MY BID Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1154602427.506876.102850@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1154638284.566159.11910@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154661884.091321.122590@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154804668.336890.260530@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154827349.198320.44090@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154993429.114318.155650@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155600109.397626.276900@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155603927.281524.94500@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1155646129.530241.222500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <7%kEg.3207$zg.1962@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1155694728.312665.228270@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156178144.049651.98370@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156182462.072980.226570@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> In <1156182462.072980.226570@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Steven" writes: >FUCKING GO TO HELL ALREADY. I'M TIRED AND YOU'RE GLOATING AND I SO >DON'T CARE. Wow. You are one of the most advice-proof people I've ever met. You complained about wanting one of these signal generators for four years. Jim showed you, in black and white, how to improve your odds. You could have graciously said "Thank you, I'll try that next time." Instead you insult him. Shame on you. If you don't learn to take advice -- even if it means swallowing your pride -- you'll continue to have problems and you'll deserve every one. Everybody makes mistakes, the trick is to learn what you're doing wrong. Or do you really think you're perfect? And if instead of listening, you follow this with an insult or more complaints, I'll never, ever deal with you again. >I've ben sitting her waiting to get a ride to the food bank. Walk. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340304 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: Litz wire in TRF's- will it work? Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:14:53 -0400 Message-ID: <071208fbbdefecf9a7c38906c99a87b5@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: <1156190618.507399.111500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> imagine that the 'CEL' is a fair bit cheaper than Litz, since it is MUCH simpler to make. If you only need a small quantity of CEL or Litz, let me know and I can probably send you some. Let me know the overall diameter you need **Tnx for the offer but I've got too many ratty looking coils that I would like to rewind and attempt to dye to the right color. A few extra bucks for Litz shouldn't break my budget; also the Litz can be used for higher freq experiments, ie: how high can I push TRF freq using 01A technology. After all, a 45 triode can be pushed to oscillate well at 75MHz! Regards, Pete Article: 340305 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Art's Antique Radios" References: <6bKdnaSGG64ziXfZnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1156192505.893448.218510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Scott Beam of Light Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:19:38 -0500 Message-ID: Is one more desirable than the other? "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1156192505.893448.218510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > Art's Antique Radios wrote: >> What exactly is the "Beam of Light" on a Scott Philharmonic and did the >> chassis come both with and without? >> >> Thanks for answering a dumb question > Earlier Philharmonics had a regular white dialpointer. Later versions > were like Philco and other dials with a pilot light shining thru a slot > in the dial. No dialpointer, but a "beam of light". > Article: 340306 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: It cost more than I wanted to guess about and I've been burned that way. Got my leg irons? Date: 21 Aug 2006 14:22:39 -0700 Message-ID: <1156195359.678040.307390@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1154638284.566159.11910@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Tim Mullen wrote: > In <1156182462.072980.226570@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Steven" writes: > > >FUCKING GO TO HELL ALREADY. I'M TIRED AND YOU'RE GLOATING AND I SO > >DON'T CARE. > > Wow. You are one of the most advice-proof people I've ever met. > > You complained about wanting one of these signal generators for > four years. Jim showed you, in black and white, how to improve your > odds. You could have graciously said "Thank you, I'll try that next > time." Instead you insult him. Shame on you. > > If you don't learn to take advice -- even if it means swallowing > your pride -- you'll continue to have problems and you'll deserve > every one. Everybody makes mistakes, the trick is to learn what > you're doing wrong. Or do you really think you're perfect? And if > instead of listening, you follow this with an insult or more complaints, > I'll never, ever deal with you again. > > >I've ben sitting her waiting to get a ride to the food bank. > > Walk. Come back tomorrow when you can think. I may have a few more years to live and it's an AUCTION! I didn't want to spend more than 100 on it to start with, and it passed my comfort zone.The problem seems to be not that somebody is mad that I didn't follow their advice but that they didn't have the right advice. Last time I looked around there was no gun pointing at my head, and I tried until I couldn't bear to speculate or afford much more. If you can come back with a lousy attitude Tuesday, Tim, enjoy the silence, as it's the US and you can do that here. I think the final decision about most things is still mine. PERFECT??? What? Walk it off. Article: 340307 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Someone in Kentucky...He has split the lot up now/PLEASE NOTE MY BID Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:51:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1154638284.566159.11910@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154661884.091321.122590@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154804668.336890.260530@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154827349.198320.44090@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154993429.114318.155650@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155600109.397626.276900@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155603927.281524.94500@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1155646129.530241.222500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <7%kEg.3207$zg.1962@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1155694728.312665.228270@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156178144.049651.98370@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156182462.072980.226570@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156194106.041529.188780@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> In <1156194106.041529.188780@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> "Steven" writes: >jim menning wrote: >> >> You are always whining here that you have only so much money, someone tries to help >> you out, and all you do is try to demand more pity. >Your idea of nice is pushy and one sided. That's the best you're going to get out of life. If you choose to see that as pushy and one-sided you're going to be miserable. >Game Over. Indeed. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340308 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: 21 Aug 2006 15:36:19 -0700 Message-ID: <1156199779.368057.326160@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> Wow, what a great business opportunity. I can see myself sinking that kind of money into all those consoles. Once done I can show up to ARCI for Radiofest and try to sell them at more than what they're worth prices. Oh that's been done by some guy in Michigan? Sorry. Blacksmith wrote: > Not mine. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270017418926&fromMakeTrack=true > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom Article: 340309 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> <1156199779.368057.326160@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <8NqGg.31995$bo6.18846@bignews7.bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:52:15 -0500 RadioGary wrote: > Wow, what a great business opportunity. I can see myself sinking that > kind of money into all those consoles. Once done I can show up to ARCI > for Radiofest and try to sell them at more than what they're worth > prices. Oh that's been done by some guy in Michigan? Sorry. > > Blacksmith wrote: >> Not mine. >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270017418926&fromMakeTrack=true >> Blacksmith >> wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom > > Is the buyer (watchman1965) someone on this forum? I only ask because when I searched his completed listings, nothing came up. When I clicked his feedback, I found he had sold several items recently. jak Article: 340310 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) Subject: Re: Litz wire in TRF's- will it work? Date: 21 Aug 2006 22:54:07 GMT Message-ID: References: <1156183360.563346.313340@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> "Pete_O" writes: >I think the spools are marked MWH [MHW?] who show up on Google search >'Litz'. >**Thanks Neil; I guess I'm on the right track. Yesterday I found the Litz >site "MWS" and have asked for a quote on #28 equiv- that's the same >diameter as the AK wire (.018). I'm not going to be winding Pi coils, >just the single layer on a metal lathe geared way down. Tnx- Pete Make sure you scramble wind the layer. You'll get almost as good as you can with a universal wind-- but can actually do it. If you just wind a layer, you'll be disappointed with the results. (The winding self cap will be too high otherwise). Steve. -- Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA Article: 340311 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Bought this Gilfillan, can anyone tell me about it? Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 22:56:22 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "Jason M" writes: >http://mysite.verizon.net/resoz4m9/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/gilf.jpg >Thanks for anything you can tell me. I don't have anything specific to say about your set, other than it's a nice design. I've always found cathedrals to be an interesting anomaly in interior design. Gothic furniture never really caught on in the states, but here were these little radios that were wildly popular. And aside from a few baroque highboys, they were the only cabinets with that particular fetish. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340312 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Scott Beam of Light Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 19:04:44 -0400 Message-ID: <12ekf0bnhp04d85@news.supernews.com> References: <6bKdnaSGG64ziXfZnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1156192505.893448.218510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> "Art's Antique Radios" wrote in message news:h96dnRTF78H7vnfZnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Is one more desirable than the other? > Yes. Normally, it's the one you DON'T have. Article: 340313 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Mike Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Message-ID: References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:16:55 GMT How many cords of wood do you estimate in there? It might be enough to keep Mark Oppat warm this winter ;-) Article: 340314 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: It cost more than I wanted to guess about and I've been burned that way. Got my leg irons? Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:19:07 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1154638284.566159.11910@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154661884.091321.122590@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154804668.336890.260530@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154827349.198320.44090@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154993429.114318.155650@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155600109.397626.276900@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155603927.281524.94500@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1155646129.530241.222500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <7%kEg.3207$zg.1962@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1155694728.312665.228270@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156178144.049651.98370@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156182462.072980.226570@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156195359.678040.307390@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> In <1156195359.678040.307390@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> "Steven" writes: >Come back tomorrow when you can think. I can think just fine today. >I may have a few more years to >live and it's an AUCTION! I didn't want to spend more than 100 on it to >start with, and it passed my comfort zone.The problem seems to be not >that somebody is mad that I didn't follow their advice but that they >didn't have the right advice. Jim did have the right advice. >Last time I looked around there was no gun pointing at my head, and I >tried until I couldn't bear to speculate or afford much more. Of course you're free to do what you want. But *doing* what you want doesn't always *get* you what you want in life. Steven, people aren't trying to beat you up when they tell you to do things differently, they're giving you =advice=, and that's a precious thing. Don't chase it away. Where I work we have people lining up at the door to work for us for free. That's right, free. They do so because there's no college in the world that can afford the equipment we have, or has the expertise we do. We'll only take on one or two such people a year, and when they make mistakes we tell them what they did wrong. If they don't listen, they're out the door. >If you can come back with a lousy attitude Tuesday, I won't come back with a lousy attitude tomorrow, and I don't have a lousy attitude today. Years of experience in the school of hard knocks has taught me my attitude on this matter is correct. >I think the final decision about most things is still mine. Certainly. But if you don't heed the advice of others, don't complain about the outcome. That drives people nuts. >Walk it off. I walk several miles every day. It's good for you. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340315 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: GE P780E Transistor Set Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:35:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1155957141.786906.158280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156037205.962631.85210@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> In robert casey writes: >http://pw2.netcom.com/~wa2ise/radios/feedback.html Very informative page. Thanks for that! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340316 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Flea market find; Navy REO 'morale' radio Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:47:05 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <44e9114e$0$96179$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <1156128607.388578.206350@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e9c1a2$0$96225$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> In <44e9c1a2$0$96225$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> "Steve" writes: >I realize what the warning was for. I thought it was funny >because these days, that tag would draw a LOT of attention. Heh. It'll be useful to freak out visitors. :) Sometimes when giving a tour of my place folks will ask about the X-ray machines and X-ray tubes "Are those radio- active?" I'll ask them in turn if food stays hot forever after taking it out of the microwave. Radiation. It's like energy. Positive energy. You know? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340317 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: 21 Aug 2006 16:56:47 -0700 Message-ID: <1156204607.865504.182310@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> Blacksmith wrote: > Not mine. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270017418926&fromMakeTrack=true > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom other than the 13 tube RCA, is there a decent radio in the bunch? it had to cost him more to rent that truck than the whole collection is worth. Article: 340318 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:58:33 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> <12ejenf4svmdvc4@news.supernews.com> <1156172501.875944.163270@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <44EA1118.D2578065@earthlink.net> In <44EA1118.D2578065@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: >I collect old broadcast equipment. Hey Michael (or anyone else), you wouldn't happen to have a set of IB's (Instruction Book in RCA parlance for anyone else who's listening) for a TK-31B camera & field kit, do you? I'm looking for a full set of prints, user manuals, what have you. Goddess knows when I'll get the time to actually work on the thing, so I haven't been actively looking. >a mock studio in one of the extra bedrooms. Spare room, sheesh. Youse guys in the burbs... :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340319 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: 21 Aug 2006 16:58:36 -0700 Message-ID: <1156204716.888954.128580@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> Blacksmith wrote: > Not mine. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270017418926&fromMakeTrack=true > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom and a 38-116.... Article: 340320 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: When radios lost their legs Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:07:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "Mark Oppat" writes: >yes, 1935 was THE year that the legs just about totally disappeared. You >still see a few sets with them after that but they are very short if any at >all, and usually we call them "feet". Would lowboys have "knees"? :) >One of the few post 1935 sets to have >legs are the 15-U-273 Zeniths of 1938 in the "Georgian" cabinet I think they >called it. There will always be exceptions to the mainstream style in order to cater to customers at the ends of the curve. My folks tried to the end to buy televisions with that faux "colonial" cabinet replete with tambour doors. >The first "modern" cabinets with no legs appeared around 1932-33 IIRC. >Philco had the model 15X then. > The Europeans were ahead of us on this, as per usual. Yeah, back then fashion was dictated from across the pond. Nothing much has changed there. High style still labors under that inferiority complex. The one thing that is different nowadays is the sheer market weight of pop culture. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340321 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: 21 Aug 2006 17:11:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1156205478.265104.219670@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > > Now, I'm hardly a Calvinist, but I see my talents utterly wasted on > "pedigree" radios. If anything I'm an RCA/GE collector- it's hard to spend > money on those.. I DO now see the point in spending more on less bulk, that > much of you has rubbed off on me. But NEVER will I waver from finding money > waving as described above unsavoring for many reasons. > > John H. Your talent SHOULD be spent on pedigree radios. It is a pure waste of your radio genius on such common radios as a GE fishmouth. It's like like M. Angelo doing a velvet Elvis painting. I still have too much "bulk." I continue to sell and give away my non-keepers in my collection. Not that there is anything wrong with "bulk" I suppose...I just don't get much happiness out of a 5 tube bakelite anymore. Maybe I am becoming a snobbish high-end collector. GE and RCA collector huh? I think not! How many nice Philcos and Stromberg Carlsons do I see hiding in the Vermont radio haven. Article: 340322 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: 21 Aug 2006 17:15:23 -0700 Message-ID: <1156205723.788810.98060@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > Eddie Brimer wrote: > > you can also see jealousy when one person covets another persons > > ability to justify things that he cannot. in other words, he can afford > > it, but he just can't justify the cash outlay in his mind. > > Eddie: > > I cannot justify the outlay for _any_ vintage radio... obsolete > technology, heavy, power consumption and so forth. But given that this > is a hobby, I need no such thing. I also happen to find that any given > vintage radio that is reasonably well made and designed, given a decent > antenna, can do many things such that a second (or third) stage is > seldom required, these days anyway. > > All it really needs to do is get some SW at night, all the > clear-channel stations, and a clean signal from the AMT3000... after > that, it is bragging rights. Like horsepower... > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA Can't something just give a man some joy without one of the 7 deadly sins being assigned to it? Gee whiz. Article: 340323 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156129192.715324.296320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156173520.384483.50430@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <12ek32min4g6296@corp.supernews.com> In <12ek32min4g6296@corp.supernews.com> "Hagstar" writes: >One day I saw a fellow at the flea market had a fishing rod near his sale >items (an ancient graphite model quite collectible) that was his own and >marked "Not for Sale". A city slicker guy badgered him for a bit wanting to >buy it., offering "Just name an amount, I'll pay it". The Vermonter >explained again politely it wasn't for sale at ANY price, and when then guy >went on and on and began shouting and waving hundreds, he finally slugged >him pretty good. We all applauded. The city slicker was being an asshole, no doubt about it. But why did the country slicker have the rod sitting there -- right there next to rods that WERE for sale -- smugly marked "Not for Sale"? Showing he was part of the In crowd, perhaps? There was simply no where else in the wide-open countryside he could possibly have stashed his treasure? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340324 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: nice 16 amp variac FA Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:19:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <44e94430$0$1779$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> In Jeffrey D Angus writes: >They look even more impressive when they're mounted on a rack panel >with a nice big "steering wheel" knob. Back in the dinosaur era of analog video (fifteen years ago :) I worked at a post house with exactly that for the tech floor lighting to keep noise out of the signals. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340325 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: Help with open reel playback (slightly OT?) Date: 21 Aug 2006 17:20:29 -0700 Message-ID: <1156206029.375843.300580@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: Dave, If you're archiving onto a PC first, there are a number of software packages out on the market that clean home made recordings, everything >from clicks on records, to filtering out hum like you described and they do it very well. If you care to write to my EMAIL address I can give you the name of some. Thanks, Gary dave wrote: > Hello, > > I am not sure if this is a good forum for this inquiry, or if one exists, > but here goes: > > I am trying to play back a very old open-reel tape recording for a friend of > mine. It has some home recordings of deceased family members, etc. So > basically I am trying to do audio archiving for him. I own several old open > reel machines which generally have not seen much use to this point and I am > certainly no expert on the format. > > The problem I am having is that the audio in the track/tracks where the > voices are recorded has a severe 60 Hz hum over top of it. The hum is very > even in amplitude and is so strong that it sounds like it is modulating the > fairly faint voices underneath. I am recording to my computer and have > tried filtering the hum out with software but the audio is still garbled > from the strong 60 Hz signal. I am thinking that the head on the machine > that was used to record these voice tracks was aligned a little off to one > side or something like that and that I might be able to get a much cleaner > take if I were able to move the head on one of my machines to align better > with the track. I am not talking about azimuth angle but actual side to > side alignment. I am not sure if this even makes sense but it is the only > thing I could think of. If anybody has a better idea on this topic, I would > be most appreciative hearing from you. > > > thanks, > > Dave Article: 340326 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: 21 Aug 2006 17:30:51 -0700 Message-ID: <1156206651.597374.318680@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> Tim Mullen wrote: > In <12ek32min4g6296@corp.supernews.com> "Hagstar" writes: > > >One day I saw a fellow at the flea market had a fishing rod near his sale > >items (an ancient graphite model quite collectible) that was his own and > >marked "Not for Sale". A city slicker guy badgered him for a bit wanting to > >buy it., offering "Just name an amount, I'll pay it". The Vermonter > >explained again politely it wasn't for sale at ANY price, and when then guy > >went on and on and began shouting and waving hundreds, he finally slugged > >him pretty good. We all applauded. > > The city slicker was being an asshole, no doubt about it. > > But why did the country slicker have the rod sitting there -- right > there next to rods that WERE for sale -- smugly marked "Not for Sale"? > Showing he was part of the In crowd, perhaps? There was simply no > where else in the wide-open countryside he could possibly have stashed > his treasure? > > -- > Tim Mullen > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. > ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- he wanted others to covet it. Article: 340327 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:41:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156129192.715324.296320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156173520.384483.50430@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <12ek32min4g6296@corp.supernews.com> <1156206651.597374.318680@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> In <1156206651.597374.318680@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> "Eddie Brimer" writes: >> But why did the country slicker have the rod sitting there -- right >> there next to rods that WERE for sale -- smugly marked "Not for Sale"? >> Showing he was part of the In crowd, perhaps? There was simply no >> where else in the wide-open countryside he could possibly have stashed >> his treasure? >he wanted others to covet it. Naaaah... only city slickers do things like that. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340328 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:58:41 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156129192.715324.296320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156173520.384483.50430@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <12ek32min4g6296@corp.supernews.com> <44EA51CF.880B8187@earthlink.net> In <44EA51CF.880B8187@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: >Tim Mullen wrote: >> >> But why did the country slicker have the rod sitting there -- right >> there next to rods that WERE for sale -- smugly marked "Not for Sale"? >> Showing he was part of the In crowd, perhaps? There was simply no >> where else in the wide-open countryside he could possibly have stashed >> his treasure? > He may have bought it from another vendor that day and he was too >busy, or too lazy to hide it in his vehicle. But he had enough time to make a "not for sale" sign? > I've had people demand >that I sell something they saw inside my truck at a hamfest, where it >was stashed after I bought it. I think it's rude even looking inside someone's vehicle. I dunno, it feels like peering in their curtains, or something. But I don't even own a car, so maybe that's just me. >If they waved a big enough wad of money, >it was theirs. Sometimes they waved five or ten times what I'd paid for >it. How someone goes about it makes all the difference. If you're trying to talk someone into selling you something, and after two or three firm no's it's clear they're becoming irrate, you've pushed it too far. Back off and apologize. Common courtesy. For the record, this is something I've never done, and never will do. I simply don't see the point. You may have to wait a few years, and you'll definitely have to put up the cash, but one will eventually come up for sale, no matter what it is. >If they were going to deprive me of the fun of restoring it, they >had to pay for it. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340329 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Help with open reel playback (slightly OT?) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 03:03:53 +0200 Message-ID: References: dave wrote > Hello, > > I am not sure if this is a good forum for this inquiry, or if one exists, > but here goes: > > I am trying to play back a very old open-reel tape recording for a friend of > mine. It has some home recordings of deceased family members, etc. So > basically I am trying to do audio archiving for him. I own several old open > reel machines which generally have not seen much use to this point and I am > certainly no expert on the format. > > The problem I am having is that the audio in the track/tracks where the > voices are recorded has a severe 60 Hz hum over top of it. The hum is very > even in amplitude and is so strong that it sounds like it is modulating the > fairly faint voices underneath. I am recording to my computer and have > tried filtering the hum out with software but the audio is still garbled > from the strong 60 Hz signal. I am thinking that the head on the machine > that was used to record these voice tracks was aligned a little off to one > side or something like that and that I might be able to get a much cleaner > take if I were able to move the head on one of my machines to align better > with the track. I am not talking about azimuth angle but actual side to > side alignment. I am not sure if this even makes sense but it is the only > thing I could think of. If anybody has a better idea on this topic, I would > be most appreciative hearing from you. Earthlink between PC and tape reproducer? Try an audio transformer or audio optocoopler. Mayby using the same AC outlet and testing with one connector reversed. Output of professional reproducer has transformer? Open the cable shield on one side. Send a diagram of your wiring. Kind Regards Georg Article: 340330 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:04:57 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> <12ejenf4svmdvc4@news.supernews.com> <1156172501.875944.163270@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <44EA1118.D2578065@earthlink.net> <44EA5283.A0BACBB3@earthlink.net> In <44EA5283.A0BACBB3@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: [TK-31 docs] > Sorry, no. I wish that I would have taken the duplicate set of >manuals at the AFRTS radio & TV station I worked at. They closed it >right after I left, and all the documentation and 16 mm film went to the >base landfill. Which landfill??? Just kidding. Talk about kicking yourself -- I was an engineer for RCA Broadcast Systems in Camden from 1982 to 1985. If I had know then what I'd be collecting now... Hell, I probably could've ordered an entire set from tech pubs! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340331 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Flea market find; Navy REO 'morale' radio Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <44e9114e$0$96179$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <1156128607.388578.206350@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e9c1a2$0$96225$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <44EA5386.4F020C92@earthlink.net> In <44EA5386.4F020C92@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: > Hey, Tim! Would you like a few bright yellow bags that say, >"Caution, Radioactive Waste"? I still have a couple hundred that were >rejects. Those are just the thing to use as garbage bags. The "Biohazard" ones work well, too. Keeps people from going thru your trash. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340332 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jim rozen Subject: Re: Simulating Neon Bulb Glow Using LED Date: 21 Aug 2006 18:13:05 -0700 Message-ID: References: <8942-44E277AF-376@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> In article , Graywolf says... >Old Neon lamps had a trace of radioactivity in the electrodes to help >ionize the gas. In most modern Neon bulbs, this is no longer present. >Light does the same thing as the radiation, it helps ionize the gas and >hence a lower voltage can fire the lamp. Actually this is a example of the famous photoelectric effect. Photons striking the electrodes will knock off a few electrons, and start the discharge going. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== Article: 340333 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: Litz wire in TRF's- will it work? Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:39:03 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1156183360.563346.313340@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Make sure you scramble wind the layer. You'll get almost as good as you can with a universal wind-- but can actually do it. If you just wind a layer, you'll be disappointed with the results. (The winding self cap will be too high otherwise). **Steve- you lost me! I was into coil winding years ago but I'm not familiar with "scramble", "universl wind", or "self cap". You have to fill me in on the professional terms without too much detail. With a consistent wire diameter equiv of #28 (4 or 10 strand), why would I be disappointed? These coils are single layer on a 2 inch diam form and a winding spread of about 2 inches and hand tension. I can imagine that if I use too much tension there could be problem. Also, is single strand #28 availavble served? -Pete Article: 340334 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> <12ejenf4svmdvc4@news.supernews.com> <1156172501.875944.163270@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <44EA1118.D2578065@earthlink.net> <44EA5283.A0BACBB3@earthlink.net> <44EA5FA9.C3178DA1@earthlink.net> In <44EA5FA9.C3178DA1@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: >Tim Mullen wrote: >> Just kidding. Talk about kicking yourself -- I was an engineer >> for RCA Broadcast Systems in Camden from 1982 to 1985. If I had >> know then what I'd be collecting now... Hell, I probably could've >> ordered an entire set from tech pubs! > Just think what they would be worth if they were still sealed in the >plastic shipping bags? I don't think I've ever seen those. The books I remember were big red binders, at least for the tape group, and =maybe= blue for cameras? Dunno. I designed the intelligent viewfinder for the TK-48, and I don't think I even have any manuals for the basic viewfinder from a TK-47 that I designed around. Anyway, I guess the books I had at work were already laying around the lab, or perhaps they only wrapped stuff sent to customers. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340335 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <8942-44E277AF-376@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Simulating Neon Bulb Glow Using LED Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:46:21 -0700 Message-ID: > This is a example of the photoelectric effect. > Photons striking the electrodes knock off a > few electrons and start the discharge. This is correct. It's easily demonstrated with a neon relaxation oscillator -- the blink rate is higher in bright light than in the dark. From adouglasatgis.net Wed Aug 23 20:21:44 EDT 2006 Article: 340336 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: When radios lost their legs Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:45:36 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-309.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!pln-e!spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:340336 Hi, Tim wrote: > Recently someone had asked when the "modern" console first >appeared. I came across this page about the history of DeForest: > > http://chem.ch.huji.ac.il/~eugeniik/history/deforest.htm > >About halfway down there's a chronological procession of a few >DeForest radios, including several floor models. Highboys from >1929, 1931, early 30's, then... boom! A modern console in 1935. The "early 30s" set is the same as the 31, with the doors closed. What these DeForest-Crosley (Canadian) radios have to do with Lee de Forest escapes me. Alan Article: 340337 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Art's Antique Radios" References: <6bKdnaSGG64ziXfZnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1156192505.893448.218510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <12ekf0bnhp04d85@news.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Scott Beam of Light Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:10:29 -0500 Message-ID: <2fudnSf36r8M-nfZnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@comcast.com> and why do I suspect that is the case in my situation? :) "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message news:12ekf0bnhp04d85@news.supernews.com... > > "Art's Antique Radios" wrote in message > news:h96dnRTF78H7vnfZnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Is one more desirable than the other? >> > Yes. Normally, it's the one you DON'T have. > > Article: 340338 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1156190365.759983.128330@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: On the behavior of Cats and Mozart Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 02:21:36 GMT I do have one cat that dislikes it when I whistle, she will come in and complain to me. They dont seem to be particular to any kind of music though. Keith' "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1156190365.759983.128330@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... We have two cats residing with us at the moment, one a 10 year-old male Maine Coon who has been with us to Saudi and back, the other an 8-month old Maine Coon kitten. Last night, I was playing Mozart's C-Minor Mass a Philips recording featuring Kiri Te Kanawa. Usually the cats are pretty placid, especially when Mozart is playing. Last night, however, things were quite different. At the Gloria 'Laudamus te', the kitten, who was in the other room for the very beginning got the zooms, and the older guy joined him... not so much chasing each other as chasing around in general. At the end of the Gloria, both of them leaped onto my lap (a total of 26 pounds of Cat) and settled in a state of alertness. At the Sanctus, they climbed (both again) to the top of the chair, again in a state of alertness, but both purring. At the end, when I put on Beethoven's Triple Concerto, they retired to their usual listening perches, one on each speaker. This was the living room stereo, assembled for simplicity-of-use and electronics concealment: AR integrated amp, Dynaco FM3 tuner, Revox CD player, AR3a speakers. I will repeat the experiment in a couple of days to see if the behavior repeats. I may also try it on the more 'impressive' stereo upstairs. I found the recording stunning (in the positive sense), but the cats clearly detected something that called them in an unusual way. Anyone else have something like this happen? Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA p.s.: Mozart - Mass in C minor / Te Kanawa · von Otter · Rolfe Johnson · R. Lloyd · Marriner ASIN: B00000418D Article: 340339 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 22:50:36 -0400 Message-ID: <12eks84d43lqode@corp.supernews.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156129192.715324.296320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156173520.384483.50430@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <12ek32min4g6296@corp.supernews.com> <44EA51CF.880B8187@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:44EA51CF.880B8187@earthlink.net... > > He may have bought it from another vendor that day and he was too > busy, or too lazy to hide it in his vehicle. Exactly, he had purchased it that morning as part of his "keeper" collection. This is a guy who sells fly rods and has this big rack. The lowest rungs always have a faded "not for sale" sign on them as there are always some display rods there that aren't really functional, as well as sometimes something he just bought. You can't always pop these into your car quickly too. I remember a guy who came to Rochester maybe four years ago with a bunch of cheaply priced nice 1940's TV's 95% of which were marked "SOLD" before 6 am (I arrived at 5:15 but then and all day never saw anyone at this table) but all of which remained on display the rest of the day. It was Jim Menning's space in fact IIRC. John H. Article: 340340 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: djep1@juno.com Subject: Re: Speaker reconing Date: 21 Aug 2006 20:31:33 -0700 Message-ID: <1156217493.179199.231380@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Gary Tayman wrote: > > Did I recall someone on this list can recone an older speaker? > Hank Brazeal (email) hankspkr@charter.net is about the best there is, and my first choice for reconing.... Jeff Article: 340341 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goivan@hotmail.com Subject: WANTED: Sony CRF-1 shortwave radio -- will pay $$$ Date: 21 Aug 2006 20:37:22 -0700 Message-ID: <1156217842.792520.177980@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I will pay top dollars to anyone who has one or a commission for any referrals to someone who leads me to one. Looking for one in excellent condition. I have most top Sony SW radios, and this one is missing in my collection. Thanks again Ivan Santa Monica, CA Article: 340342 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 03:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156129192.715324.296320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156173520.384483.50430@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <12ek32min4g6296@corp.supernews.com> <1156205478.265104.219670@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> In <1156205478.265104.219670@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> "Eddie Brimer" writes: >Not that there is anything wrong with "bulk" I suppose... "Quality over quantity." Not a Calvinist ethic, but it sounds like it could be. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340343 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156129192.715324.296320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156173520.384483.50430@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <12ek32min4g6296@corp.supernews.com> <44EA51CF.880B8187@earthlink.net> <12eks84d43lqode@corp.supernews.com> In <12eks84d43lqode@corp.supernews.com> "Hagstar" writes: >Exactly, he had purchased it that morning as part of his "keeper" >collection. This is a guy who sells fly rods and has this big rack. The >lowest rungs always have a faded "not for sale" sign on them as there are >always some display rods there that aren't really functional, So he does this routinely? What's with that? Why explicity bring something to a place where people come to buy that thing, only to not let anyone buy it. If that's not flaunting it, I don't know what is. "I'd like to buy one of those cakes in the window of your bakery." "Oh... those are VERY good. But you can't have one." >as well as >sometimes something he just bought. You can't always pop these into your car >quickly too. Not being a fisherman, I must have underestimated the size of these things. >I remember a guy who came to Rochester maybe four years ago with a bunch of >cheaply priced nice 1940's TV's 95% of which were marked "SOLD" before 6 am >(I arrived at 5:15 but then and all day never saw anyone at this table) but >all of which remained on display the rest of the day. It was Jim Menning's >space in fact IIRC. Televisions I do have some experience with. I know these aren't something you can hold in one hand (with very few exceptions) or stash away easily. I also doubt Jim hauls around a collection of display televisions that aren't really functional, complete with a ready-made "not for sale" sign, to fleamarkets. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340344 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Speaker reconing Message-ID: <1UuGg.40561$Qt3.381446@weber.videotron.net> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:31:18 -0400 "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:YjuGg.12760$Te.9768@trnddc07... > Okay, the next item on the agenda of this Philco 41-605 is the speaker. I > took the speaker to a local fellow who rebuilds them, he later told me he > cannot do it because the voice coil is too small. > > Today I picked it up. It really isn't that bad, just noticed it rubs a > little. Well, not anymore -- he cut the cone out. > > Did I recall someone on this list can recone an older speaker? > Ken G. (Gooding) does a perfect job. I've seen his work. goodguyy@webtv.net Syl Article: 340345 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <6bKdnaSGG64ziXfZnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1156192505.893448.218510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Scott Beam of Light Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:47:44 -0400 Message-ID: Jim Clark's Scott Collector's Guide lists 4 version of the Scott Philly. The Pointer Dial version is AM only. The BOL has 3 versions, two are AM only and one is AM/FM. Mark Oppat "Art's Antique Radios" wrote in message news:h96dnRTF78H7vnfZnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Is one more desirable than the other? > > > "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message > news:1156192505.893448.218510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > > > Art's Antique Radios wrote: > >> What exactly is the "Beam of Light" on a Scott Philharmonic and did the > >> chassis come both with and without? > >> > >> Thanks for answering a dumb question > > Earlier Philharmonics had a regular white dialpointer. Later versions > > were like Philco and other dials with a pilot light shining thru a slot > > in the dial. No dialpointer, but a "beam of light". > > > > > Article: 340346 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> <1156204607.865504.182310@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:09:26 -0400 Message-ID: Well, there are TWO 13 tube RCA's (813K and 13K), one 12 tube RCA (812K) and one 11 tube (811K). Not much in this truck otherwise of higher end interest... I am VERY surprized what it went for... unless its a shill covering for it. Mark Oppat "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1156204607.865504.182310@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... > > Blacksmith wrote: > > Not mine. > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270017418926&fromMakeTrack=true > > Blacksmith > > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom > > other than the 13 tube RCA, is there a decent radio in the bunch? it > had to cost him more to rent that truck than the whole collection is > worth. > > Article: 340347 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Flea market find; Navy REO 'morale' radio Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 22:06:09 -0700 Message-ID: References: <44e9114e$0$96179$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <1156128607.388578.206350@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e9c1a2$0$96225$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Gary Tayman wrote: > This brings up an interesting thought -- I know there were a few TRF > military radios in use on ships, and the TRF design was exactly for the > purpose of non-radiation. But were there "morale" radios out there in a TRF > design? This has me curious. I'm sure a lot of TRF radios were still in > homes during the period, and it would be almost nothing to take a table > radio -- except -- it would need to receive short wave. I don't know if any > short wave TRF's were made, but I bet it would be fun to try and tune it. A > shipboard TRF would probably have to be preset ahead of time for whatever > frequency they would want to listen to. If more than one frequency, > possibly a channel selector. > Well, there was the Scott RBO, which was superhet but had a TRF front end to reduce RF radiation to "shipboard safe" levels. Quite possibly the heaviest morale receiver ever made for any armed service and definitely not portable. Article: 340348 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:25:00 +0900 Message-ID: References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> <1156204607.865504.182310@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:V4mdnTUXSOM5DXfZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com... > Well, there are TWO 13 tube RCA's (813K and 13K), one 12 tube RCA (812K) > and one 11 tube (811K). What was the one with the HUGE dial on it? -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! Article: 340349 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156129192.715324.296320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156173520.384483.50430@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <12ek32min4g6296@corp.supernews.com> <44EA51CF.880B8187@earthlink.net> <12eks84d43lqode@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:25:42 GMT "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:ecdvg2$k9c$1@reader2.panix.com... > > >>I remember a guy who came to Rochester maybe four years ago with a bunch of >>cheaply priced nice 1940's TV's 95% of which were marked "SOLD" before 6 am >>(I arrived at 5:15 but then and all day never saw anyone at this table) but >>all of which remained on display the rest of the day. It was Jim Menning's >>space in fact IIRC. > > Televisions I do have some experience with. I know these aren't > something you can hold in one hand (with very few exceptions) or > stash away easily. I also doubt Jim hauls around a collection of > display televisions that aren't really functional, complete with > a ready-made "not for sale" sign, to fleamarkets. > > No, I don't. It's a 1,750 mile round trip, it wouldn't make any sense to do that. John's recollection of 95% of the 1940's TVs I brought being marked sold on my tables was an exaggeration. However I will admit a full 50% were marked that way (1 of only 2). 4 years ago (2002 Rochester) I brought 3 old (pre-1970) TVs, one was a 1953 RCA color CT-100 which was sold at 5:15 as I pulled it out the back of my van, and promptly hauled over to the buyer's truck. Later I sold a 1948 RCA tabletop B&W set for I think $40. I didn't take the buyer's name, and he didn't return until that afternoon to pick up his set, so it did sit there all day marked "sold". I was afraid to move it, for fear he would not be able to find it later. The only other old TV was another 1948-9 wooden tabletop RCA that sat all day without any offers, I believe also priced at only $35-40. There were several transistor TV sets I brought that year, but only the 3 tube sets. At Rochester, I was always part of the Bob Evans & Al Jesperson setup. We had about 6 spaces all adjoining there, and at least one of us was in the area at all times. We had all the nice stuff under the tents in the shade, the other stalls were the "clearance area" next to the tents. If it was my stuff John was looking at, and I seem to recall we had already discussed this in a prior thread years ago, I'm sorry he couldn't find at least one of us nearby. In 2004 I again attended the Rochester show, with dozens of TVs. They were mostly all Videospheres, Videocapsules, Orbitels, and other novelty 1970-80's sets. Only 2 sold that year, one a metal 1940's RCA (the only pre-1970 set I brought) and a desktop Panasonic TV/clock/radio. The RCA was priced at $75, marked down to $50, and then finally sold for $20 after the rains brought the meet to an early close. I decided after that, I'd no longer attend the Rochester meet bringing TV sets. There just didn't appear to be enough interest there. jim menning Article: 340350 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> <1156204607.865504.182310@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:30:31 GMT "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:V4mdnTUXSOM5DXfZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Well, there are TWO 13 tube RCA's (813K and 13K), one 12 tube RCA (812K) > and one 11 tube (811K). > Not much in this truck otherwise of higher end interest... I am VERY > surprized what it went for... unless its a shill covering for it. > > Mark Oppat > I would have a hard time seeing that lot go for half of what it ended at. Was that Capehart one with the rare speaker & turntable? If so, that might up the ante. But as far as the description that many of these were restored, they mostly looked to be in pretty rough condition. I'll guess the buyer actually went to look at the stuff before they made that bid, and saw more than we did. jim menning Article: 340351 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> <1156204607.865504.182310@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:43:14 GMT "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:ece49l$51d$1@news2.kornet.net... > > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:V4mdnTUXSOM5DXfZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Well, there are TWO 13 tube RCA's (813K and 13K), one 12 tube RCA (812K) >> and one 11 tube (811K). > > > What was the one with the HUGE dial on it? > This one? http://www.sfhobbies.com/sfhobbies/radio/images/myradio/RCA813K/my813K.html jim menning Article: 340352 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> <1156204607.865504.182310@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:54:18 -0400 Message-ID: with the curved slide rule dial??? thats the RCA 813K... 1938, motor drive, 4 SW bandspread bands. NICE radios. Mark Oppat "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:ece49l$51d$1@news2.kornet.net... > > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:V4mdnTUXSOM5DXfZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Well, there are TWO 13 tube RCA's (813K and 13K), one 12 tube RCA (812K) > > and one 11 tube (811K). > > > What was the one with the HUGE dial on it? > > -- > Say no to institutionalized interference. > Just say NO to HD/IBOC! > > > Article: 340353 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:06:14 +0900 Message-ID: References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> <1156204607.865504.182310@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> "jim menning" wrote in message news:SPwGg.42988$Nt2.12535@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Brenda Ann" wrote in message > news:ece49l$51d$1@news2.kornet.net... >> >> >> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message >> news:V4mdnTUXSOM5DXfZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> Well, there are TWO 13 tube RCA's (813K and 13K), one 12 tube RCA >>> (812K) >>> and one 11 tube (811K). >> >> >> What was the one with the HUGE dial on it? >> > > > This one? > > http://www.sfhobbies.com/sfhobbies/radio/images/myradio/RCA813K/my813K.html That would be the one. Love that huge dial. Must be a lot easier to find stations on that thing. Would look great in my living room. :) -- "22 astronauts have come from Ohio. What is it about your state that makes people want to flee the Earth?" Stephen Colbert (The Colbert Report), to US Representative from Ohio Article: 340354 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: NoahVale@webtv.net Subject: NOS Burroughs B5750 Nixie Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:09:46 -0400 Message-ID: <7605-44EAC9DA-115@storefull-3115.bay.webtv.net> I need a source for a NOS Burroughs B5750 Nixie tube with long leads. If anyone has one, please e-mail me direct. Thank you. NoahVale@webtv.net Article: 340355 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: It cost more than I wanted to guess about and I've been burned that way. Got my leg irons? Date: 22 Aug 2006 04:06:12 -0700 Message-ID: <1156244772.295980.209910@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1154804668.336890.260530@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> DOES ANYBODY EVEN CARE THAT IT WAS BECOMING MORE EXPENSIVE THAN I COULD AFFORD AT THAT POINT? DO THEY EVEN CARE? IT'S AN AUCTION, THERE ARE OTHERS, AND I'M NOT GOING TO WORRY ABOUT IT. JIM IS A BIT ABUSIVE THOUGH. IF I DON'T FIND ONE SOONER OR LATER I'LL TAKE IT TO PAYETTE. IT'S NICE BUT I WON'T DIE OVER IT. QUIT ACTING LIKE SPORTS PARENTS PLEASE. Article: 340356 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: 22 Aug 2006 04:09:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1156244958.156669.133100@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> Tim Mullen wrote: > In <44EA1118.D2578065@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: > > >I collect old broadcast equipment. > > Hey Michael (or anyone else), you wouldn't happen to have a > set of IB's (Instruction Book in RCA parlance for anyone else > who's listening) for a TK-31B camera & field kit, do you? > I'm looking for a full set of prints, user manuals, what have > you. Goddess knows when I'll get the time to actually work > on the thing, so I haven't been actively looking. > > >a mock studio in one of the extra bedrooms. > > Spare room, sheesh. Youse guys in the burbs... :) I have one on HUD assistance...try living in a "town". Article: 340357 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:14:18 -0400 Message-ID: <12elpoiijqie7a@corp.supernews.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156129192.715324.296320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156173520.384483.50430@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <12ek32min4g6296@corp.supernews.com> <44EA51CF.880B8187@earthlink.net> <12eks84d43lqode@corp.supernews.com> "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:ecdvg2$k9c$1@reader2.panix.com... > In <12eks84d43lqode@corp.supernews.com> "Hagstar" > writes: > > So he does this routinely? What's with that? Why explicity > bring something to a place where people come to buy that thing, > only to not let anyone buy it. Display items are nonfunctional generally. The Alpine Shop where I work has some gorgeous old skis on the wall. None are for sale, none are intended for use or really collectible (still too new). It's like asking to buy someone's jacket because you like it. You can't sell apples from an empty cart is an old saying. And these display rods are quite cracked though nice looking. John H. Article: 340358 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:18:18 -0400 Message-ID: <12elq02aabutbfd@corp.supernews.com> References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> <1156204607.865504.182310@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:HqCdneBP9Ku0BnfZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@comcast.com... > NICE radios. > > BAAAD bezel though. Anybody got a good one :)? John H. Article: 340359 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) Subject: GE P-925A (was GE P780E Transistor Set) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:19:44 -0400 Message-ID: Hello, everyone, and I thought as a result of the other related thread I would jump in here. I've collected a number of vintage transistor portables and without a doubt the best constructed and sounding of the lot is my 8-transistor AM/SW GE model P-925A. It has a large (~ 5" dia) speaker for a portable. Excellent sensitivity. Uses 4 C cells that seem to last forever. As far as I can tell it was built in the U.S. and most, if not all, of the internal components are of American manufacture (Sprague, Allen-Bradley, etc). Sincerely, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 Article: 340360 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Speaker reconing References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:21:31 -0400 Also, John, Gary Tayman wrote: > Okay, the next item on the agenda of this Philco 41-605 is the speaker. I > took the speaker to a local fellow who rebuilds them, he later told me he > cannot do it because the voice coil is too small. > > Today I picked it up. It really isn't that bad, just noticed it rubs a > little. Well, not anymore -- he cut the cone out. > > Did I recall someone on this list can recone an older speaker? > > > Article: 340361 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Someone in Kentucky...He has split the lot up now/PLEASE NOTE MY BID Date: 22 Aug 2006 04:25:02 -0700 Message-ID: <1156245902.320354.155330@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1154804668.336890.260530@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Tim, you mistake me for being miserable. Other than I almost cried over this crap. That was evil of folks. Just because I say I've been trying for four years doesn't make me desparate or ignore other needs, and it was probably a good thing even in unfortunate. I don't think your "goddess" has ever taught you how patience and wisdom are more important than the kill in hunting. Apparently the the other losing bidder thought as I that it really wasn't worth over 100 dollars as he bid on the other one I did too and lost. Now did I expect a stray KLH Six to end up in my house? Hardly. Article: 340362 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: When radios lost their legs Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:25:47 -0400 Message-ID: <12elqe2qruda83f@corp.supernews.com> References: "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:ecdhra$sa9$5@reader2.panix.com... > In "Mark Oppat" > writes: > > Yeah, back then fashion was dictated from across the pond. Except for radios- as I have noted before the Europeans made some more progressive and nicer looking sets, but America companies set the style standards by making so MANY of them. The only Euro radios that seem to have bee exported in quantity or very far are German ones, and as we know Teutonic style precludes all frills as well as airplane dials. John H. Article: 340363 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Speaker reconing Date: 22 Aug 2006 04:27:33 -0700 Message-ID: <1156246053.407718.323120@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: Syl wrote: > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:YjuGg.12760$Te.9768@trnddc07... > > Okay, the next item on the agenda of this Philco 41-605 is the speaker. I > > took the speaker to a local fellow who rebuilds them, he later told me he > > cannot do it because the voice coil is too small. > > > > Today I picked it up. It really isn't that bad, just noticed it rubs a > > little. Well, not anymore -- he cut the cone out. > > > > Did I recall someone on this list can recone an older speaker? > > > > Ken G. (Gooding) does a perfect job. I've seen his work. > > goodguyy@webtv.net > > Syl If Ken G. has the parts, I recommend him without reservation. If you wanna reserve him, it might cost you ;-) Article: 340364 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: When radios lost their legs Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:30:41 -0400 Message-ID: <12elqn9ebgj3q41@corp.supernews.com> References: Cats like post 1935 radios much better, they are far more fun to hide behind. Vacuuming behind them however becomes a trimonthly affair involving much shuffling compared to legged models. Cat and dog toys don't get stuck under legged consoles as easily though. John H. Article: 340365 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: When radios lost their legs Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:32:28 -0400 Message-ID: <12elqqk7itfqba0@corp.supernews.com> References: <12elqn9ebgj3q41@corp.supernews.com> "Hagstar" wrote in message news:12elqn9ebgj3q41@corp.supernews.com... > Cats like post 1935 radios much better, they are far more fun to hide > behind. Vacuuming behind them however becomes a trimonthly affair Sorry I meant quadrennial. John H. Article: 340366 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: When radios lost their legs Date: 22 Aug 2006 05:16:32 -0700 Message-ID: <1156248992.322655.134240@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Hagstar wrote: > "Tim Mullen" wrote in message > news:ecdhra$sa9$5@reader2.panix.com... > > In "Mark Oppat" > > writes: > > > > Yeah, back then fashion was dictated from across the pond. > > Except for radios- as I have noted before the Europeans made some more > progressive and nicer looking sets, but America companies set the style > standards by making so MANY of them. The only Euro radios that seem to have > bee exported in quantity or very far are German ones, and as we know > Teutonic style precludes all frills as well as airplane dials. > > John H. I think hifi design after about 1950 (or the genesis of Marantz) has more to do with amateur radio/slab style than boutiques. It works, it's logical and classic...and it stacks/racks. The Europeans in turn copied our coupes and sedan for a short while, by which time no serious hifi buyers seemed to like large all in one cabinets. To this day they will lug 70 pounds of boxes and 140 lbs of speakers to avoid a faux-wood cabinet with a 40 watt stereo P-P tube amp and 12" 3-way speakers, even if Avery Fisher auditioned it himself at the Met! Article: 340367 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: 22 Aug 2006 05:26:20 -0700 Message-ID: <1156249580.817658.190200@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> jim menning wrote: > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:V4mdnTUXSOM5DXfZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com... > > > > Well, there are TWO 13 tube RCA's (813K and 13K), one 12 tube RCA (812K) > > and one 11 tube (811K). > > Not much in this truck otherwise of higher end interest... I am VERY > > surprized what it went for... unless its a shill covering for it. > > > > Mark Oppat > > > > I would have a hard time seeing that lot go for half of what it ended at. Was that > Capehart one with the rare speaker & turntable? If so, that might up the ante. But > as far as the description that many of these were restored, they mostly looked to be > in pretty rough condition. I'll guess the buyer actually went to look at the stuff > before they made that bid, and saw more than we did. > > jim menning i smell someting rotten here. Article: 340368 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Someone in Kentucky...He has split the lot up now/PLEASE NOTE MY BID Date: 22 Aug 2006 05:27:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1156249644.316567.196210@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154638284.566159.11910@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Tim Mullen wrote: > In <1156182462.072980.226570@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Steven" writes: > > >FUCKING GO TO HELL ALREADY. I'M TIRED AND YOU'RE GLOATING AND I SO > >DON'T CARE. > > Wow. You are one of the most advice-proof people I've ever met. > > You complained about wanting one of these signal generators for > four years. Jim showed you, in black and white, how to improve your > odds. You could have graciously said "Thank you, I'll try that next > time." Instead you insult him. Shame on you. > > If you don't learn to take advice -- even if it means swallowing > your pride -- you'll continue to have problems and you'll deserve > every one. Everybody makes mistakes, the trick is to learn what > you're doing wrong. Or do you really think you're perfect? And if > instead of listening, you follow this with an insult or more complaints, > I'll never, ever deal with you again. > > >I've ben sitting her waiting to get a ride to the food bank. > > Walk. Didn't have to either. I was gone before you wrote. Got a part worked on, turned in some cans and bought 32 oz of that new grape Powerade Options (Splenda and only 40 calories) and tool a long nap, got up at 3 am. Wish I was feeling well enough to feed cows and set up for the morning milking, like I used to when I was 17. Article: 340369 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Not Elmer Date: 22 Aug 2006 05:40:49 -0700 Message-ID: <1156250449.226378.77400@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1154638284.566159.11910@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> jim menning wrote: > "Steven" wrote in message > news:1156184233.039870.86800@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > > > jim menning wrote: > > > >> Now all the communications between you, the seller, and the newsgroup have been > >> wasted time for everyone. You can't even take good, logical advice when people do > >> give you a chance. > > > > Who else even bid on anything? I asked Terry if anybody was bidding > > against me in the first place. And so much for all the folks who chime > > in that it's easy come and go! Why are you so queerly interested > > anyway? > >> > >> And if you don't like the criticism/advice you got here, remember it is you that > >> brought it all up in the newsgroup telling us of your bidding. > > > > Your criticism didn't mean anything in the first place. It's just a > > damned auction, not a deer hunt. > > > > You picked the wrong day to fuck up, James. Go back to bed. > > > > Even when you try to legitimately help this guy, he shows what a worthless piece of > crap he is. Have a nice life Steven. A very short one. Make it a justified gripe in your eyes. You have taken it so personally and I keep telling you I don't wan't you for my Elmer. It seems like I'm supposed to be some kind of redemption to you. You keep looking for "see, I told you he's garbage". It doesn't matter when or even what. I could only bid what I thought I could afford. Now go back in before you get called tardy again and get held back in third grade again, Jimmy. This whole argument of yours is insane because I wasn't sure in the first place and was going to have to do some wrangling to do it anyway, but I wasn't going to hurt myself until that point. And travman100 had a good auction after you all stiffed him. Sounds like HE was smart... Article: 340370 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: 22 Aug 2006 05:44:12 -0700 Message-ID: <1156250651.939122.95690@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> Eddie Brimer wrote: > jim menning wrote: > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > > news:V4mdnTUXSOM5DXfZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com... > > > > > > Well, there are TWO 13 tube RCA's (813K and 13K), one 12 tube RCA (812K) > > > and one 11 tube (811K). > > > Not much in this truck otherwise of higher end interest... I am VERY > > > surprized what it went for... unless its a shill covering for it. > > > > > > Mark Oppat > > > > > > > I would have a hard time seeing that lot go for half of what it ended at. Was that > > Capehart one with the rare speaker & turntable? If so, that might up the ante. But > > as far as the description that many of these were restored, they mostly looked to be > > in pretty rough condition. I'll guess the buyer actually went to look at the stuff > > before they made that bid, and saw more than we did. > > > > jim menning > > i smell someting rotten here. It's the internet. Go take care of that. Article: 340371 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: Speaker reconing Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:54:50 -0400 Message-ID: <5af0822451f01c5b462fb87b4796e66c@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: Also, John, **Absolutely! I've had about 10 speakers done by John- truly professional work with no complaints and reasonable cost. Tell him Pete from Greystone Park recommended him. -Pete Article: 340372 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: justin.creasy@gmail.com Subject: Re: need cartridge for Onkyo CP 101A Date: 22 Aug 2006 07:33:57 -0700 Message-ID: <1156257237.591598.120320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1156118726.595890.85230@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Thanks a lot Steven. I have looked into a couple of those sites, but some of them look new to me so that's good. I know I don't need to go OEM, I just wasn't sure how to make sure that a non-OEM would work. If I find what I need I'll post where and how I got it. Thanks again. Steven wrote: > Steven wrote: > > justin.creasy@gmail.com wrote: > > > Hello, I need a cartridge for my Onkyo CP 101A. On the back of the > > > record player I see DN 74 ST. I have found cartridges that are very > > > close (DN 72 ST). I am sure that I have the number right and the DN 72 > > > ST looks somewhat different from my broken cartridge. > > > > > > I have tried looking on all the sites I find by googling. Anyone know > > > where I can find a new cartridge? Thanks. > > > > You need not find the OEM cartridge to enjoy your Onkyo, and Onkyo like > > no longer makes or sells any cartridges, as I don't know if they even > > have turntables in their product lineup anymore. > > And YES, if you do your homework, there are some generic substitutions > for many needles. This will cause a lot of howling among some purists, > but Ed Saunders has been selling phono products most of his life, and > if he says it works, trust him. Any man who painted a pair of speakers > plaid once is an open, honest soul to me: ) Article: 340373 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1154638284.566159.11910@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154661884.091321.122590@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154804668.336890.260530@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154827349.198320.44090@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154993429.114318.155650@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155600109.397626.276900@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155603927.281524.94500@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1155646129.530241.222500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <7%kEg.3207$zg.1962@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1155694728.312665.228270@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156178144.049651.98370@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156184233.039870.86800@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156250449.226378.77400@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Not Elmer Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:07:51 GMT "Steven" wrote in message news:1156250449.226378.77400@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > > > > Make it a justified gripe in your eyes. You have taken it so personally > and I keep telling you I don't wan't you for my Elmer. It seems like > I'm supposed to be some kind of redemption to you. What I take personally is your repetitive efforts at destroying this newsgroup. Your random worthless interjections into nearly every thread destroy the value of this group. And then you always turn the threads into your own little pity pool. You continue to morph, flirt and tease the other trolls to encourage them to continue here, and you give advice to newcomers here that aren't aware of your incompetence. You are dangerous to the health of this group Steven. Why do you always go out to destroy the very group you wish so much to be a valuable and accepted part of? I'm not trying to be your "Elmer", I am not tutoring you in radio repair. What I have been doing the last few years is encouraging you to conform to the standards of this group to fit in, rather than be a perpetual pest. And so have many others here that are concerned with the future of this group. But you always ignore their efforts, and even retaliate without regard for the further erosion of the quality of this group. You disappear for a few weeks or months at a time, then come back even more off balance. I've learned to ignore you for the most part, attempts in the past to potty train you have failed miserably. You continue to come in and drop loads of shit everywhere. And on the rare occasions when you do start talking on topic, and people actually try to converse with you, or give you help or advice, you end up sharing your explosive diarrhea with everyone anyway. We don't want to keep hearing over and over about your pitiful life, your recycling of crappy hifi equipment, and your deranged offbeat witticisms. There is no reason or purpose to keep bringing up that crap in this group. Get an ethernet penpal if you feel the need to continuously have an internet shoulder to cry on. This group is not your personal dumping ground. > > You keep looking for "see, I told you he's garbage". > I wish it weren't so, but you keep proving it's true. > It doesn't matter when or even what. I could only bid what I thought I > could afford. You still don't understand, do you? If you had used the recommended bidding strategy, you likely would have won that auction with the $104 bid you were willing to place. In other words, you could have had it for what you thought you could afford at the time you bid. > Now go back in before you get called tardy again and get > held back in third grade again, Jimmy. Stevie - You're the school dunce who will end up in remedial classes your entire life. > > This whole argument of yours is insane because I wasn't sure in the > first place and was going to have to do some wrangling to do it anyway, > but I wasn't going to hurt myself until that point. And travman100 had > a good auction after you all stiffed him. Sounds like HE was smart... > The "argument" is not insane, you are. The "argument" was me giving you advice to help you win the item within your budget. But you foolishly blew your chance. Who lost? Well, you did. And everyone else that wasted their time reading the thread to see how you'd come out. As usual, you again proved yourself a loser. You ignored good advice, and pissed away any chance you had to win. And then somehow that's everyone else's fault again...oh pity poor Steven... jim menning Article: 340374 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Not Elmer Date: 22 Aug 2006 08:21:55 -0700 Message-ID: <1156260115.348993.83010@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1154804668.336890.260530@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Who's trying to destroy what? How am I gonna do that? Now you are a paranoid crusader on top of annoying. I don't see this group falling apart anytime soon, but I do see your abuse, and I don't take abuse anymore. What you have is a self-absorbed, full-monty crusade. I just don't know where you come up with all the manure... And you can call whomever you want a "troll", whatever that is supposed to be, and I will ignore you. I have tubes and tubed sets up the wazzoo, and I find you stupid and annoying too. You will likely die before I do so I don't go around spitting, "die Menning", all day. It will happen just like eventually I get what I need-someday. I'm not going to challenge the status of your masculinity or some other stupid exercise. Go play tubes with the others. Article: 340375 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) Subject: Re: Litz wire in TRF's- will it work? Date: 22 Aug 2006 15:47:11 GMT Message-ID: References: <1156183360.563346.313340@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> "Pete_O" writes: >Make sure you scramble wind the layer. You'll get almost as good as you can >with a universal wind-- but can actually do it. If you just wind >a layer, you'll be disappointed with the results. (The winding self cap >will be too high otherwise). >**Steve- you lost me! I was into coil winding years ago but I'm not >familiar with "scramble", "universl wind", or "self cap". You have to >fill me in on the professional terms without too much detail. With a >consistent wire diameter equiv of #28 (4 or 10 strand), why would I be >disappointed? These coils are single layer on a 2 inch diam form and a >winding spread of about 2 inches and hand tension. I can imagine that if >I use too much tension there could be problem. Also, is single strand >#28 availavble served? -Pete Universal windings were invented to reduce self-capacitance of a winding by making sure no nearby winding is parallel to another. This allows maximum Q and maximum tuning range. They are hard to wind and generally require a machine like a Morris Coil Winder with the correct feed (have a look at: http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/COIL/COIL.html). A "scramble" wound coil is the poor man's version. If you need to make a coil, say 1 inch long, with 100 turns, rather than just laying the wire down in a nice neet solenoid, you slop it back and forth over the 1 inch space, so the crossings are random. This won't be as good as universal, but you can do it on any bench. If you lay down a solenoidal coil, you need spacing between each turn. Much worse than skin effect at MW frequencies is the "proximity effect." If you can get more strands in your litz (I like 20-30 strands, as small as I can get like #44 each). In your case, with the large coil and spread out, you will do fine. One of the best wires to use, if you want spread out windings is the silver plated teflon stuff, or kynar. Have fun. Steve. -- Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA Article: 340376 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Not Elmer Date: 22 Aug 2006 08:48:57 -0700 Message-ID: <1156261736.951408.246150@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1154804668.336890.260530@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> jim menning wrote: > "Steven" wrote in message > news:1156250449.226378.77400@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > Make it a justified gripe in your eyes. You have taken it so personally > > and I keep telling you I don't wan't you for my Elmer. It seems like > > I'm supposed to be some kind of redemption to you. > > What I take personally is your repetitive efforts at destroying this newsgroup. Your > random worthless interjections into nearly every thread destroy the value of this > group. And then you always turn the threads into your own little pity pool. You > continue to morph, flirt and tease the other trolls to encourage them to continue > here, and you give advice to newcomers here that aren't aware of your incompetence. > You are dangerous to the health of this group Steven. Why do you always go out to > destroy the very group you wish so much to be a valuable and accepted part of? Ah, I see now. Jealousy and paranoia, followed by attacks. You have no idea about anything, and you need to grow up and learn. First thing is that, ignored or not, some people don't go away just because you want them to. Personally, playing with them isn't gonna matter much unless you make them disinterested. You let the last couple of major "personalites" drive you nuts...I wish that you would go see how "Bob McCarty" is effectively dealt with. Secondly, all they are doing is STUNTING you and that occurs in a lot of groups. The more I see it anywhere, the more I realize you are only as pissed as you make yourself, whether or not it seems disruptive. Third, I gather you believe I type to a bunch of imaginary things that type back all the things I want to feel justified in some manner. Go sit in the corner with George W. Bush. Fourth, I believe you have brainwashed yourself into believing I am some threat to god-fearing humanity. Go work for a talk radio show. I really don't care, Jim. You can type venom all day but you'll never meet me to know different, nor do I care if you do. I told you I don't want to play with you and this is your problem to deal with. Article: 340377 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Arthur Dent" References: <1156118726.595890.85230@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156122504.444321.46810@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156123121.115259.198340@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1156257237.591598.120320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: need cartridge for Onkyo CP 101A Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:50:32 -0700 I've purchased needles and cartridge from Ed Saunders for my Technics SL80200. Works great. Glen wrote in message news:1156257237.591598.120320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > Thanks a lot Steven. I have looked into a couple of those sites, but > some of them look new to me so that's good. I know I don't need to go > OEM, I just wasn't sure how to make sure that a non-OEM would work. If > I find what I need I'll post where and how I got it. Thanks again. > > Steven wrote: >> Steven wrote: >> > justin.creasy@gmail.com wrote: >> > > Hello, I need a cartridge for my Onkyo CP 101A. On the back of the >> > > record player I see DN 74 ST. I have found cartridges that are very >> > > close (DN 72 ST). I am sure that I have the number right and the DN >> > > 72 >> > > ST looks somewhat different from my broken cartridge. >> > > >> > > I have tried looking on all the sites I find by googling. Anyone know >> > > where I can find a new cartridge? Thanks. >> > >> > You need not find the OEM cartridge to enjoy your Onkyo, and Onkyo like >> > no longer makes or sells any cartridges, as I don't know if they even >> > have turntables in their product lineup anymore. >> >> And YES, if you do your homework, there are some generic substitutions >> for many needles. This will cause a lot of howling among some purists, >> but Ed Saunders has been selling phono products most of his life, and >> if he says it works, trust him. Any man who painted a pair of speakers >> plaid once is an open, honest soul to me: ) > Article: 340378 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> <1156204607.865504.182310@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <12elq02aabutbfd@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:00:21 -0400 Message-ID: not likely, John. Those Tenite bezels are all bad, sad to say, you just gotta live with it. Not many of these sets around, and, not many getting scrapped out so the odds of finding a nicer bezel are about .0022%. If you wanted to straighten one out a bit, I suppose you could cut a perfect slice out of each side to expand it, and make some kind of filler for the sliced out area. Even if the color was a bit off (make it darker I would think, if anything) it might look neat. Mark Oppat "Hagstar" wrote in message news:12elq02aabutbfd@corp.supernews.com... > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:HqCdneBP9Ku0BnfZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > NICE radios. > > > > > > BAAAD bezel though. Anybody got a good one :)? > > John H. > > > Article: 340379 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dkelvey@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Simulating Neon Bulb Glow Using LED Date: 22 Aug 2006 10:58:34 -0700 Message-ID: <1156269514.155320.25130@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: Bill Sheppard wrote: > From jak: > > >To complete the illusion, you might add > >some kind of circuit to make it flicker as > >well. > > Well, since it's already a diode, just run it on AC, and it'll 'flicker' > at 60 cps, 'on' for part of a half cycle and off for over a half cycle. > Whereas a neon on 60 cycles turns 'on' at the peak of every half cycle > (ie, it flickers 120 times a second). > oc Hi Use care here. If you are using a dropping resistor from something like 120V to drive a LED, they are only rated for 11 volts or so back biased. If one is not using a full wave rectifier, one should put a doide across the LED such that it carries the current when the LED is back biased. As I recall, looking at the spectrum of a neon light, it has 3 major lines. One in the yellow and two in the red. I would think that the right mix of red and green LED would create the same mix of colors. Dwight Article: 340380 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Art's Antique Radios" References: <6bKdnaSGG64ziXfZnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1156192505.893448.218510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Scott Beam of Light Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:23:54 -0500 Message-ID: Shortwave must come in there somewhere. "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:MsidnXSA-PwTFnfZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > Jim Clark's Scott Collector's Guide lists 4 version of the Scott Philly. > The Pointer Dial version is AM only. > > The BOL has 3 versions, two are AM only and one is AM/FM. > > Mark Oppat > > "Art's Antique Radios" wrote in message > news:h96dnRTF78H7vnfZnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Is one more desirable than the other? >> >> >> "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message >> news:1156192505.893448.218510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... >> > >> > Art's Antique Radios wrote: >> >> What exactly is the "Beam of Light" on a Scott Philharmonic and did >> >> the >> >> chassis come both with and without? >> >> >> >> Thanks for answering a dumb question >> > Earlier Philharmonics had a regular white dialpointer. Later versions >> > were like Philco and other dials with a pilot light shining thru a slot >> > in the dial. No dialpointer, but a "beam of light". >> > >> >> >> > > > > Article: 340381 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: Litz wire in TRF's- will it work? Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:03:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1156183360.563346.313340@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Universal windings were invented to reduce self-capacitance of a winding by making sure no nearby winding is parallel to another. This allows maximum Q and maximum tuning range. They are hard to wind and generally require a machine like a Morris Coil Winder with the correct feed A "scramble" wound coil is the poor man's version. If you need to make a **Tnx for teaching me the latest terms and techniques. My department wound Q standards (Boonton Radio Q Meters) and I understand the universal winding- it was called cross-hatch in the ancient days. Distributed C isn't really an issue since I'm not matching to a calibrated dial. I will be relying on the nylon serving and perhaps a row of removable thread to keep my turns separated. I just wish my quote for the wire would come through. The old wire was very resistive so I'm begining to think that Q may not be an issue. Thanks all for help -Pete Article: 340382 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Not Elmer Date: 22 Aug 2006 11:59:31 -0700 Message-ID: <1156273171.660002.84670@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1154804668.336890.260530@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> jim menning wrote: A whole bunch of stuff lost on its object. Jim: Skippy is our cockroach (with apologies to the six-legged varieties). What it cannot consume it contaminates. The village idiot is typically tolerated because villagers understand the idiot to be helpless in the face of affliction. Skippy knows _exactly_ what it is doing, so no amount of suggestion, imploring or appeals to its better side will be effective. Roaches may be exterminated with impunity; this expedient does not apply to otherwise useless human wastes of air, water and resources. But we do not have to tolerate it. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 340383 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Not Elmer Date: 22 Aug 2006 12:52:58 -0700 Message-ID: <1156276378.715626.230870@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154827349.198320.44090@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: God damn you are depraved, Peter. Article: 340384 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Not Elmer Date: 22 Aug 2006 13:04:46 -0700 Message-ID: <1156277086.055859.240930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1154827349.198320.44090@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > Peter Wieck wrote: > > God damn you are depraved, Peter. You are unhappy with the truth, Skippy? Maybe if you go elsewhere you will be confronted with it less? Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 340385 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Not Elmer Date: 22 Aug 2006 13:12:37 -0700 Message-ID: <1156277557.031343.299100@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1155600109.397626.276900@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > Steven wrote: > > Peter Wieck wrote: > > > > God damn you are depraved, Peter. > > You are unhappy with the truth, Skippy? Maybe if you go elsewhere you > will be confronted with it less? > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA How about I send your employer a cease and desist letter? Article: 340386 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <6bKdnaSGG64ziXfZnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1156192505.893448.218510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Scott Beam of Light Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:23:24 -0400 Message-ID: <0uedndF9HZdG-3bZnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@comcast.com> SW IS AM! I didnt say BC after all. In the USA, "AM" is mistaken usually to mean only BC. Mark Oppat "Art's Antique Radios" wrote in message news:xq2dnR4U2Pgr1nbZnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > Shortwave must come in there somewhere. > > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:MsidnXSA-PwTFnfZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Jim Clark's Scott Collector's Guide lists 4 version of the Scott Philly. > > The Pointer Dial version is AM only. > > > > The BOL has 3 versions, two are AM only and one is AM/FM. > > > > Mark Oppat > > > > "Art's Antique Radios" wrote in message > > news:h96dnRTF78H7vnfZnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> Is one more desirable than the other? > >> > >> > >> "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message > >> news:1156192505.893448.218510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > >> > > >> > Art's Antique Radios wrote: > >> >> What exactly is the "Beam of Light" on a Scott Philharmonic and did > >> >> the > >> >> chassis come both with and without? > >> >> > >> >> Thanks for answering a dumb question > >> > Earlier Philharmonics had a regular white dialpointer. Later versions > >> > were like Philco and other dials with a pilot light shining thru a slot > >> > in the dial. No dialpointer, but a "beam of light". > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Article: 340387 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Not Elmer Date: 22 Aug 2006 13:20:57 -0700 Message-ID: <1156278057.257880.46650@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1155600109.397626.276900@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > Peter Wieck wrote: > > Steven wrote: > > > Peter Wieck wrote: > > > > > > God damn you are depraved, Peter. > > > > You are unhappy with the truth, Skippy? Maybe if you go elsewhere you > > will be confronted with it less? > > > > Peter Wieck > > Wyncote, PA > > How about I send your employer a cease and desist letter? So, this would assume that you _are_ Skippy? Otherwise, what connection might there be? Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 340388 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Not Elmer Date: 22 Aug 2006 13:23:58 -0700 Message-ID: <1156278237.953864.223670@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1155603927.281524.94500@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > Steven wrote: > > Peter Wieck wrote: > > > Steven wrote: > > > > Peter Wieck wrote: > > > > > > > > God damn you are depraved, Peter. > > > > > > You are unhappy with the truth, Skippy? Maybe if you go elsewhere you > > > will be confronted with it less? > > > > > > Peter Wieck > > > Wyncote, PA > > > > How about I send your employer a cease and desist letter? > > So, this would assume that you _are_ Skippy? Otherwise, what connection > might there be? > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA That you mention the name in EVERY context related to me and especially after I post. Did you support Eugene McCarthy? Dear Sirs: By not supporting Paul O'Dwyer's decision to support Humphrey, you have lost sight of the reasons he did not support HHH in the first place. By not suporting Sen. McCarthy's endorsement of HHH, you have lost sight of the circumstances of his endorsement. You have done what you swore you would not do -- you copped out. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Article: 340389 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: OT: Does your cat watch HDTV? Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:37:38 -0400 Message-ID: <12emqoi3dgjpg5b@news.supernews.com> I seem to remember that there are a number of cat people that read here, thought you might find this article interesting. I found it amusing. :) http://www.tvpredictions.com/catwatcheshdtv011606.htm cheers, Frank in Aurora Article: 340390 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Not Elmer Date: 22 Aug 2006 13:38:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1156279101.713290.142890@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <7%kEg.3207$zg.1962@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Steven wrote: Equally followed on many occasions by your vehement denial of being "Skippy", which in context, I should allow to stand? The difference between me and thee is that I do not hide under rocks, nor do I have a thin skin, nor do I get upset when called about anything under the sun. Usenet is kinda like that. If one goes in and makes a bad smell, one gets called on it. If one is thereby injured by such calls, then it behooves one to go somewhere else. If you do not like the implications heaped on Skippy, if you identify with this imaginary entity, then perhaps you need to resolve a few things before you throw threats for all the world to see. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 340391 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Not Elmer Date: 22 Aug 2006 13:41:22 -0700 Message-ID: <1156279282.089998.211170@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <7%kEg.3207$zg.1962@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > Steven wrote: > > Equally followed on many occasions by your vehement denial of being > "Skippy", which in context, I should allow to stand? > > The difference between me and thee is that I do not hide under rocks, > nor do I have a thin skin, nor do I get upset when called about > anything under the sun. Usenet is kinda like that. If one goes in and > makes a bad smell, one gets called on it. If one is thereby injured by > such calls, then it behooves one to go somewhere else. If you do not > like the implications heaped on Skippy, if you identify with this > imaginary entity, then perhaps you need to resolve a few things before > you throw threats for all the world to see. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA You should hide under a rock...calling someone not 100% in step with Gene McCarthy a "copout". Article: 340392 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Not Elmer Date: 22 Aug 2006 13:45:23 -0700 Message-ID: <1156279523.095870.20010@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: Steven wrote: > You should hide under a rock...calling someone not 100% in step with > Gene McCarthy a "copout". And you did not live in NYC in the 60s, nor do you even know who O'Dwyer was.... So? Skippy is a very creative person. It continues to find new and different ways to show its congenital ignorance and lack of social skills... remarkable even for Usenet. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 340393 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Art's Antique Radios" References: <6bKdnaSGG64ziXfZnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1156192505.893448.218510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <0uedndF9HZdG-3bZnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Scott Beam of Light Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:52:54 -0500 Message-ID: <_4ydnUqg7cc_83bZnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.com> Mark, I hate to say it but you are correct. I took AM to mean BC when I should know better Bowing to his humble master !!!!! "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:0uedndF9HZdG-3bZnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > SW IS AM! I didnt say BC after all. In the USA, "AM" is mistaken > usually to mean only BC. > > Mark Oppat > > > "Art's Antique Radios" wrote in message > news:xq2dnR4U2Pgr1nbZnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Shortwave must come in there somewhere. >> >> >> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message >> news:MsidnXSA-PwTFnfZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> > Jim Clark's Scott Collector's Guide lists 4 version of the Scott > Philly. >> > The Pointer Dial version is AM only. >> > >> > The BOL has 3 versions, two are AM only and one is AM/FM. >> > >> > Mark Oppat >> > >> > "Art's Antique Radios" wrote in message >> > news:h96dnRTF78H7vnfZnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> Is one more desirable than the other? >> >> >> >> >> >> "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message >> >> news:1156192505.893448.218510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... >> >> > >> >> > Art's Antique Radios wrote: >> >> >> What exactly is the "Beam of Light" on a Scott Philharmonic and did >> >> >> the >> >> >> chassis come both with and without? >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for answering a dumb question >> >> > Earlier Philharmonics had a regular white dialpointer. Later >> >> > versions >> >> > were like Philco and other dials with a pilot light shining thru a > slot >> >> > in the dial. No dialpointer, but a "beam of light". >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > Article: 340394 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" References: Subject: Re: When radios lost their legs Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:55:37 -0500 Message-ID: Very interesting link. There are many exceptions to the long-legged Highboy cabinets of the late 20's and early 30's until the the ubiquitous console with a lots of subtle and often banal variations came on the scene. Most if not all were extreme upper end combination sets of which few of the common man or even those that thought they had money could afford. I can think of at least one upper end 1934 Zenith without legs that was a straight radio. Bruce Article: 340395 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12egk843vkgqr3e@corp.supernews.com> <1156077139.623261.154400@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <12eh0sf3b6lpv4e@corp.supernews.com> <1156092587.938175.198690@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <035Gg.26575$8j3.25360@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:00:03 -0500 Message-ID: "Superhet" wrote in message news:035Gg.26575$8j3.25360@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > How about you give the old lady the $50 and take the radio. Then, since > you have the address you send a check for whatever you feel is right to > you and you are both happy! Seems like a good alternative to me. Now a very nice machine is going to ruin for nothing. Bruce Article: 340396 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156129192.715324.296320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156173520.384483.50430@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <12ek32min4g6296@corp.supernews.com> <1156205478.265104.219670@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:13:07 -0500 Message-ID: "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:ecduhg$6ut$1@reader2.panix.com... > In <1156205478.265104.219670@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> "Eddie Brimer" > writes: > >>Not that there is anything wrong with "bulk" I suppose... > > "Quality over quantity." > Amen to that! I don't think I ever bought anything that I didn't think I could "get my money out of", since I was a kid, whether it was coins, records or whatever. I do admit to 'overcollecting' though to the point of excess. I think it is the "collectors nature". And yes, the older I get the more I am trying to get rid of all that excess stuff. Bruce Article: 340397 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Scott Beam of Light Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:42:16 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <6bKdnaSGG64ziXfZnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1156192505.893448.218510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> In <1156192505.893448.218510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> "AuroraOldRadios" writes: >Art's Antique Radios wrote: >> What exactly is the "Beam of Light" on a Scott Philharmonic and did the >> chassis come both with and without? >> >Earlier Philharmonics had a regular white dialpointer. Later versions >were like Philco and other dials with a pilot light shining thru a slot >in the dial. No dialpointer, but a "beam of light". The Radio Daze guy has a nifty line-up of Scotts: http://radiodaze.com/rdscott1.htm Including a rather sexy chairside: http://radiodaze.com/Scott-Sixteen.htm Understated but very nice looking wood. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340398 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:51:43 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> <1156204607.865504.182310@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> In "Brenda Ann" writes: >"jim menning" wrote in message >news:SPwGg.42988$Nt2.12535@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... >> >> http://www.sfhobbies.com/sfhobbies/radio/images/myradio/RCA813K/my813K.html >That would be the one. Love that huge dial. Must be a lot easier to find >stations on that thing. Would look great in my living room. :) That is a cool radio. Not to dis Jim's shot, but it looks even better from above, as seen in the trailer. >"22 astronauts have come from Ohio. What is it about your state that makes >people want to flee the Earth?" >Stephen Colbert (The Colbert Report), to US Representative from Ohio Heh. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340399 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jiri Placek" Subject: Re: OT: On the behavior of Cats and Mozart Date: 22 Aug 2006 15:03:19 -0700 Message-ID: <1156284199.172666.224250@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1156190365.759983.128330@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > I found the recording stunning (in the positive sense), but the cats > clearly detected something that called them in an unusual way. a) religious awakening b) sorrow for the souls of songbirds they killed c) aroused by soprani d) high frequency harmonics in organ sound Sorry, can't resist. > else have something like this happen? Referring to d) above, my daughter's pekingese goes ballistic at the sound of organ from McIntosh ML-2 speakers, a signal generator test showed than anything over 17 kHz will do. Article: 340400 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:24:14 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156129192.715324.296320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156173520.384483.50430@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <12ek32min4g6296@corp.supernews.com> <1156205478.265104.219670@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> In "Bruce Mercer" writes: >And yes, the older I get the more I am trying to get rid of >all that excess stuff. You've got my address if you need to get rid of that you-know-what. :) I'm here for ya, man. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340401 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> <1156204607.865504.182310@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <12elq02aabutbfd@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:34:12 GMT In article <12elq02aabutbfd@corp.supernews.com>, yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net says... > > > > >BAAAD bezel though. Anybody got a good one :)? > >John H. > > OK John.... question first... is the bezel the same for the 816K as it is for the 813K ???????????? next... there is no such thing as a "Good One" .. there are some that are better than others... but no good ones as the suckers shrink and break since they are around glass that won't shrink.. only question is where it breaks.... and lastly ... it they are the same... then yes I have one.. its not a "Good One" but perhaps better than the one you have.. John k9uwa Article: 340402 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <3347-44E0B3A3-35@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> <1156269514.155320.25130@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Simulating Neon Bulb Glow Using LED Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:57:18 -0700 Message-ID: > The spectrum of a neon light has 3 major lines, one in the yellow > and two in the red. I'd think the right mix of red and green LED > would create the same mix. My Toshiba Tecra has an amber light on the front edge that looks decided neonish. Article: 340403 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: 22 Aug 2006 18:35:40 -0700 Message-ID: <1156296940.455919.142670@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> Superhet wrote: > How about you give the old lady the $50 and take the radio. Then, since > you have the address you send a check for whatever you feel is right to > you and you are both happy! i have thought of that. i also think i could be more diplomatic than just saying "that phonograph is worth 10 times what you are asking." Article: 340404 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry S" Subject: Re: NOS Burroughs B5750 Nixie Date: 22 Aug 2006 18:49:22 -0700 Message-ID: <1156297762.433880.138060@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <7605-44EAC9DA-115@storefull-3115.bay.webtv.net> I suggest you post your need on the Yahoo NeoNixie group. Terry. NoahVale@webtv.net wrote: > I need a source for a NOS Burroughs B5750 Nixie tube with long leads. > > If anyone has one, please e-mail me direct. > > Thank you. > > NoahVale@webtv.net Article: 340405 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> <1156204607.865504.182310@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:21:46 -0400 Message-ID: I sold a 813K last year to a Florida collector. I totally restored the chassis and the finish on the cabinet was original and very nice (RCA/GE finishes seem to hold up very well IMHO). Anyways... I described it on eBay as the most "stout" radio ever. It really looks like a stocky German guy in a uniform with shoulder pads. Very cool in my opinion... and, like I said, you cant beat it for shortwave, its got 4 bandspread bands. No other consumer radio of the 30's has that. And audio? wow, can we talk about that....clear and LOUD. The one odd ailment with these is the vernier shafts wear and begin to jump out or get lost altogether, due to the motor spinning them so much. My buddy Dan and I had a few made to order, and fixed ours. Mark Oppat "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:ecfu9f$4e8$2@reader2.panix.com... > In "Brenda Ann" writes: > > >"jim menning" wrote in message > >news:SPwGg.42988$Nt2.12535@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > >> > >> http://www.sfhobbies.com/sfhobbies/radio/images/myradio/RCA813K/my813K.html > > >That would be the one. Love that huge dial. Must be a lot easier to find > >stations on that thing. Would look great in my living room. :) > > That is a cool radio. Not to dis Jim's shot, but it looks even > better from above, as seen in the trailer. > > >"22 astronauts have come from Ohio. What is it about your state that makes > >people want to flee the Earth?" > > >Stephen Colbert (The Colbert Report), to US Representative from Ohio > > Heh. :) > > -- > Tim Mullen > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. > ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- > Article: 340406 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <12emqoi3dgjpg5b@news.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Does your cat watch HDTV? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 02:05:59 GMT Hi! > I found it amusing. :) It is a cute story, and I wouldn't doubt but what it is true as well. I was working on installing computer software for someone one day when their cat came upon the scene and proceeded to become *very* fascinated with the onscreen progress bar. My only worry is that a well intentioned cat or dog just "doing what comes naturally" could damage a delicate screen. William Article: 340407 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Not Elmer Date: 22 Aug 2006 19:10:05 -0700 Message-ID: <1156299005.015007.314360@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1155646129.530241.222500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Bobsey Twins. Classic juvenile literature. Article: 340408 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Most unservicable! Message-ID: <6QOGg.6009$hP6.740@trnddc04> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 02:12:18 GMT I received a car radio today for repair/rebuild, and I've got to say it's the worst yet in terms of servicability. It's a shame, because it doesn't need much -- just the usual rebuild. Vibrator is bad, electrolytics are leaky, force B+ into it and it plays. This is a Mopar 804, from a 49 De Soto. It is a goofy-shaped radio, with a big dial up top -- WAY up top -- and those electronic pushbuttons along the bottom. In fact the buttons are so far down that they each have bellcranks to push in the switches themselves. Here's what's inside: the chassis is in the middle, with the vibrator, filter, and rectifier facing downward. The related wiring is on top. The rest of the radio has the tubes on top with the wiring on the bottom -- sort of a predecessor to a two-sided PCB, only with a metal chassis and tubes. But that's not the best of it. The tuner, with its electronic pushbutton array, sits below the chassis, mounted in such a way that you cannot reach any component without removing the entire tuner! So what's involved in removing the tuner? Remove the wiring from the tuning coils, remove the wiring from the pushbutton array, remove the wiring (very short) from the on-off switch which is located in the exact center of the radio and surrounded by the rest of it, remove the wiring from the volume/tone controls, remove wiring from various stationary coils, and finally -- not one but TWO dial strings! One is for the dial pointer, the other for the tone control. With the chassis and tuner totally disassembled, you can replace most of the caps. I say most, because there is one cap located inside the pushbutton array itself. Sorry, that one ain't gonna be replaced! As I type this, I've replaced all the caps except the one. I'm ready to reassemble. Now -- if you've been on this list for any time at all, you know that recap lesson #101 says you should turn the radio on after replacing 2-3 caps. This way, if the radio should quit working you know where to check. Well, I've removed and disassembled a complete tuner with electronic pushbuttons, then recapped the entire chassis, and am about to reassemble. There is no other way to do it. Pray for me. Motorola made this thing -- what were they thinking about? I'd love to locate the fellow who designed this one, and make him replace that last cap, but they probably don't allow soldering irons in that section of the nursing home . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 340409 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Most unservicable! From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <6QOGg.6009$hP6.740@trnddc04> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 02:29:45 GMT In article <6QOGg.6009$hP6.740@trnddc04>, caradio@verizon.net says... > > >Motorola made this thing -- what were they thinking about? I'd love to >locate the fellow who designed this one, and make him replace that last cap, >but they probably don't allow soldering irons in that section of the nursing >home . . . >-- >Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Just finished one up identical to this about a month ago... I concur... the absolute worst auto radio I ever worked on... also it was the last one like it that we will do... John k9uwa Article: 340410 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Springs for Zenith Shutterdial From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 02:34:16 GMT In article , mldenison@comcast.net says... > > >Folks, > >I got a 9S262 in and both springs on the shutterdial are rusted and broken. >Can anyone point me to a replacement source? Thanks. > > OK Mort ... I see no one responded to you... send me your address in an email .... its free friday .... or whatever day it is.. John k9uwa Article: 340411 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: HERE'S a Great Crate Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:39:15 -0400 Message-ID: <12enfusgnon90fc@corp.supernews.com> I'd pay a couple hundred for this crate myself. I have no idea what I would do with it though :) http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Victrola-Shipping-Crate-w-Superb-Nipper-Litho_W0QQitemZ220017859465 John H. Article: 340412 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: 22 Aug 2006 19:40:12 -0700 Message-ID: <1156300812.228320.134340@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> Eddie Brimer wrote: > Superhet wrote: > > How about you give the old lady the $50 and take the radio. Then, since > > you have the address you send a check for whatever you feel is right to > > you and you are both happy! > > > i have thought of that. i also think i could be more diplomatic than > just saying "that phonograph is worth 10 times what you are asking." Just give her 10x then, it's that New Diplomacy, you know. Article: 340413 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Timothy Subject: Need help in I.D'ing Realtone 2296 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 19:49:37 -0700 Message-ID: Good day. I have gotten 2 radios that I know nothing about. Was hoping to get a new antenna for this radio, but I can not find any info on this model at all. The best I could find was a 2427 that looks like mine mostly. What I have: Realtone 2296 serial no. 4109-9302 3 band (AM/FM/FM-AFC) Dual power Black leather case with leather handle 10 transistors 9 diodes 1 Thermistor Are there any on-line sources for this radio...? Thanks for your time. Article: 340414 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: GE P-925A (was GE P780E Transistor Set) References: <9bene29q392e8ifa096tceckcq42532kup@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 02:56:25 GMT Ish wrote: > It is indeed a testament to American productivity and innovation > that I hope we still have in our country. In the words of Mr. Spock, "Fascinating." Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 340415 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mort Denison" References: Subject: Re: Springs for Zenith Shutterdial Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:03:38 -0400 Message-ID: On the way, John. Appreciate it. Article: 340416 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:07:40 -0400 Message-ID: <12enhk5rt3m8e2e@corp.supernews.com> References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> <1156204607.865504.182310@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <12elq02aabutbfd@corp.supernews.com> "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:EDLGg.921454$084.633213@attbi_s22... > > next... there is no such thing as a "Good One" .. there are > some that are better than others... but no good ones as the suckers > shrink and break since they are around glass that won't shrink.. Perhaps I haven't checked them carefully enough but I'd swear I've seen some non-cracked though a but shrunken ones. I think the 813K and 816K share a common bezel, I sent you mail. The 813K I have has been on the back burner for a couple of years as the bezel I have is in many bent pieces. I've almost never seen those rolling pin dial Silvertone consoles- otherwise quite attractive- with intact Tenite bezels though! John H. Article: 340417 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Timothy Subject: Need help in I.D'ing RCA Victor Model 7TA-5 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 20:08:34 -0700 Message-ID: Good day. I'm looking for information of an old RCA Victor model 7TA-5. This is a portable transistor radio in it's own little brown case. Any information on this reciever would be great. RCA Victor model no. 7TA_5 transistor 7 Article: 340418 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: HERE'S a Great Crate Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 03:14:49 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <12enfusgnon90fc@corp.supernews.com> In <12enfusgnon90fc@corp.supernews.com> "Hagstar" writes: >I'd pay a couple hundred for this crate myself. I have no idea what I would >do with it though :) >http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Victrola-Shipping-Crate-w-Superb-Nipper-Litho_W0QQitemZ220017859465 Now THAT's a crate! Hinges, no less. The color Nipper is fantastic. Do with it? Dunno. It'd be cool just to look at while reading the chapter on factory packing in "Look For the Dog". :) Speaking of crate-type-things: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110024116954 Where do people find this stuff? :) It's like those dreams you have of stumbling into an old warehouse, except it's real. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340419 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Art's Antique Radios" Subject: Stewart Warner R102 info wanted Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:19:04 -0500 Message-ID: Got a call today about this radio and cant seem to find any information. Appears to be an early Stewart Warner but no pictures anywhere. Does anyone have any information or pictures? Thanks Article: 340420 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Reeves" Subject: Re: Does your cat watch HDTV? Date: 22 Aug 2006 21:39:14 -0700 Message-ID: <1156307954.492332.286860@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <12emqoi3dgjpg5b@news.supernews.com> I was working on a 32 in zenith TV it was sitting on the floor and turned off. One of my cats saw her reflection in the tv screen and ran full speed into it. Sounded like it hurt but she shook it off. I wish I'd of had that on video. No there wasn't a second time. Article: 340421 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 01:00:35 -0400 From: Tom Adkins Subject: Re: HERE'S a Great Crate References: <12enfusgnon90fc@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Hagstar wrote: > I'd pay a couple hundred for this crate myself. I have no idea what I would > do with it though :) > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Victrola-Shipping-Crate-w-Superb-Nipper-Litho_W0QQitemZ220017859465 > > John H. > > I know what I would do with it. I'd put it in my living room in that funky corner that nothing seems to look right in (I'm single) ;) There can't be many of those left around. Article: 340422 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 01:05:35 -0400 From: Tom Adkins Subject: Re: Most unservicable! References: <6QOGg.6009$hP6.740@trnddc04> Message-ID: Gary Tayman wrote: > I received a car radio today for repair/rebuild, and I've got to say it's > the worst yet in terms of servicability. It's a shame, because it doesn't > need much -- just the usual rebuild. Vibrator is bad, electrolytics are > leaky, force B+ into it and it plays. > > This is a Mopar 804, from a 49 De Soto. It is a goofy-shaped radio, with a > big dial up top -- WAY up top -- and those electronic pushbuttons along the > bottom. In fact the buttons are so far down that they each have bellcranks > to push in the switches themselves. > > Here's what's inside: the chassis is in the middle, with the vibrator, > filter, and rectifier facing downward. The related wiring is on top. The > rest of the radio has the tubes on top with the wiring on the bottom -- sort > of a predecessor to a two-sided PCB, only with a metal chassis and tubes. > > But that's not the best of it. The tuner, with its electronic pushbutton > array, sits below the chassis, mounted in such a way that you cannot reach > any component without removing the entire tuner! So what's involved in > removing the tuner? Remove the wiring from the tuning coils, remove the > wiring from the pushbutton array, remove the wiring (very short) from the > on-off switch which is located in the exact center of the radio and > surrounded by the rest of it, remove the wiring from the volume/tone > controls, remove wiring from various stationary coils, and finally -- not > one but TWO dial strings! One is for the dial pointer, the other for the > tone control. > > With the chassis and tuner totally disassembled, you can replace most of the > caps. I say most, because there is one cap located inside the pushbutton > array itself. Sorry, that one ain't gonna be replaced! > > As I type this, I've replaced all the caps except the one. I'm ready to > reassemble. Now -- if you've been on this list for any time at all, you > know that recap lesson #101 says you should turn the radio on after > replacing 2-3 caps. This way, if the radio should quit working you know > where to check. Well, I've removed and disassembled a complete tuner with > electronic pushbuttons, then recapped the entire chassis, and am about to > reassemble. There is no other way to do it. Pray for me. > > Motorola made this thing -- what were they thinking about? I'd love to > locate the fellow who designed this one, and make him replace that last cap, > but they probably don't allow soldering irons in that section of the nursing > home . . . > > Oohh Gary, it really sucks to be you on that repair, from your description. I'm rooting for you, you haven't let us down yet. I'd like to see some pics of that beast. Article: 340423 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Mikael Carlsson Subject: Re: NOS Burroughs B5750 Nixie Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 07:07:55 +0200 Message-ID: <4l265bFe9ujeU1@individual.net> References: <7605-44EAC9DA-115@storefull-3115.bay.webtv.net> NoahVale@webtv.net wrote: > I need a source for a NOS Burroughs B5750 Nixie tube with long leads. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230018783113 Article: 340424 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 01:25:59 -0400 From: Tom Adkins Subject: Re: Does your cat watch HDTV? References: <12emqoi3dgjpg5b@news.supernews.com> <1156307954.492332.286860@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <-JOdnZy8e7lLeHbZnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@comcast.com> Steve Reeves wrote: > I was working on a 32 in zenith TV it was sitting on the floor and > turned off. One of my cats saw her reflection in the tv screen and ran > full speed into it. Sounded like it hurt but she shook it off. I wish > I'd of had that on video. No there wasn't a second time. > My brother has a cat that seems to go ballistic over "nature" shows in HD (and surround sound). She's an indoor\outdoor cat that is an avid hunter. She crouches, growls, stalks, etc, and then attacks the screen at times. He pointed it out to me because it was a great source of amusement for him. Eventually he noticed that the cat didn't usually react to programming that wasn't HD. I just thought it was a quirk with that particular cat, but maybe there is something to it? Could the video and audio be good enough to make a cat think it's outdoors? My internal skeptic says NO, but... Article: 340425 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: James Sweet Subject: Re: NOS Burroughs B5750 Nixie References: <7605-44EAC9DA-115@storefull-3115.bay.webtv.net> <4l265bFe9ujeU1@individual.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 05:35:32 GMT Mikael Carlsson wrote: > NoahVale@webtv.net wrote: > >> I need a source for a NOS Burroughs B5750 Nixie tube with long leads. > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230018783113 $25 *EACH*? Holy crap, when did 5870's become so valuable? Wasn't that long ago that I got a set of 6 for that much. Article: 340426 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Smith" Subject: Mystery Turntable Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:02:42 +1200 Message-ID: Perhaps someone on this group can help me . Have an early British Turntable. It is mostly complete but need info on a couple of things. Who made it? and what was on the top right where the speed selector is. Here is a photo of theTurntable http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~allofus/tanex/mysterytt.jpg If anyone has one I need a photo of the missing bit if possible. allofus@es.co.nz John Article: 340427 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <6QOGg.6009$hP6.740@trnddc04> Subject: Re: Most unservicable! Message-ID: <7%SGg.6035$hP6.4123@trnddc04> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 06:57:07 GMT Oh yes, I forgot to mention -- when I removed the front cover, a big lizard jumped out and ran behind the bench. Fun fun! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:t4PGg.148233$1i1.41151@attbi_s72... > In article <6QOGg.6009$hP6.740@trnddc04>, caradio@verizon.net says... >> >> >>Motorola made this thing -- what were they thinking about? I'd love to >>locate the fellow who designed this one, and make him replace that last >>cap, >>but they probably don't allow soldering irons in that section of the >>nursing >>home . . . >>-- >>Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > > > Just finished one up identical to this about a month ago... I concur... > the > absolute worst auto radio I ever worked on... also it was the last one > like it that we will do... > John k9uwa > Article: 340428 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Most unservicable! Date: 23 Aug 2006 01:41:51 -0700 Message-ID: <1156322511.291780.159350@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <6QOGg.6009$hP6.740@trnddc04> Gary Tayman wrote: > Oh yes, I forgot to mention -- when I removed the front cover, a big lizard > jumped out and ran behind the bench. Fun fun! Call it "Project Godzilla 2006" then! Article: 340429 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <9bene29q392e8ifa096tceckcq42532kup@4ax.com> Subject: Re: GE P-925A (was GE P780E Transistor Set) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 04:33:25 -0700 Message-ID: > In the words of Mr. Spock, "Fascinating." As Spock said, "Fascinating I reserve for the unexpected." It is indeed unexpected that the designers took this project so seriously. How many current businesses pay this much attention to detail? I often wonder whether good products are good by design, or be accident/coincidence. By the way, Consumer Reports often down-rated GE radios for being too sensitive for their selectivity. Article: 340430 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "J.B. Wood" Subject: Re: GE P-925A (was GE P780E Transistor Set) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 07:46:18 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9bene29q392e8ifa096tceckcq42532kup@4ax.com> Ish wrote: > John, > Check out this site. It is indeed a testament to American > productivity and innovation that I hope we still have in our country. > http://www.transistor.org/feature/jutson/details.html > > Be sure to click on the link at the bottom of the page. > > It is an interview with the guy who designed the radio and why they > did it the way they did. > > > I have one of these and they are terrific. If I could get to the dial > light to replace it,, and find a set of the original knobs I would be > happy. > > Mike Thanks for the info, Mike! Always interesting to know the engineer(s) who designs the technologies we all take for granted. Marilyn vos Savant was right on target: "The occupational group most responsible for modern society is engineers, who should win a 'most underappreciated' award." Sincerely, Article: 340431 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Most unservicable! References: <6QOGg.6009$hP6.740@trnddc04> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 07:52:21 -0400 I just finished one of these also. Had to use micro-sugery to replace the caps, not a fun project. The tough job was getting it up under a dashboard that had never contained a radio. Took several tries, two guys and much cursing. It's going on a madien voyage from Virginia to Boston in a 48 De Soto next month. Ken Gary Tayman wrote: > I received a car radio today for repair/rebuild, and I've got to say it's > the worst yet in terms of servicability. It's a shame, because it doesn't > need much -- just the usual rebuild. Vibrator is bad, electrolytics are > leaky, force B+ into it and it plays. > > This is a Mopar 804, from a 49 De Soto. It is a goofy-shaped radio, with a > big dial up top -- WAY up top -- and those electronic pushbuttons along the > bottom. In fact the buttons are so far down that they each have bellcranks > to push in the switches themselves. > > Here's what's inside: the chassis is in the middle, with the vibrator, > filter, and rectifier facing downward. The related wiring is on top. The > rest of the radio has the tubes on top with the wiring on the bottom -- sort > of a predecessor to a two-sided PCB, only with a metal chassis and tubes. > > But that's not the best of it. The tuner, with its electronic pushbutton > array, sits below the chassis, mounted in such a way that you cannot reach > any component without removing the entire tuner! So what's involved in > removing the tuner? Remove the wiring from the tuning coils, remove the > wiring from the pushbutton array, remove the wiring (very short) from the > on-off switch which is located in the exact center of the radio and > surrounded by the rest of it, remove the wiring from the volume/tone > controls, remove wiring from various stationary coils, and finally -- not > one but TWO dial strings! One is for the dial pointer, the other for the > tone control. > > With the chassis and tuner totally disassembled, you can replace most of the > caps. I say most, because there is one cap located inside the pushbutton > array itself. Sorry, that one ain't gonna be replaced! > > As I type this, I've replaced all the caps except the one. I'm ready to > reassemble. Now -- if you've been on this list for any time at all, you > know that recap lesson #101 says you should turn the radio on after > replacing 2-3 caps. This way, if the radio should quit working you know > where to check. Well, I've removed and disassembled a complete tuner with > electronic pushbuttons, then recapped the entire chassis, and am about to > reassemble. There is no other way to do it. Pray for me. > > Motorola made this thing -- what were they thinking about? I'd love to > locate the fellow who designed this one, and make him replace that last cap, > but they probably don't allow soldering irons in that section of the nursing > home . . . > > Article: 340432 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Does your cat watch HDTV? Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 08:00:35 -0400 Message-ID: <12eogr63rbml985@news.supernews.com> References: <12emqoi3dgjpg5b@news.supernews.com> <1156307954.492332.286860@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <-JOdnZy8e7lLeHbZnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@comcast.com> "Tom Adkins" wrote in message news:-JOdnZy8e7lLeHbZnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@comcast.com... > Steve Reeves wrote: >> I was working on a 32 in zenith TV it was sitting on the floor and >> turned off. One of my cats saw her reflection in the tv screen and ran >> full speed into it. Sounded like it hurt but she shook it off. I wish >> I'd of had that on video. No there wasn't a second time. >> > > My brother has a cat that seems to go ballistic over "nature" shows in HD > (and surround sound). She's an indoor\outdoor cat that is an avid hunter. > She crouches, growls, stalks, etc, and then attacks the screen at times. > He pointed it out to me because it was a great source of amusement for > him. Eventually he noticed that the cat didn't usually react to > programming that wasn't HD. I just thought it was a quirk with that > particular cat, but maybe there is something to it? > Could the video and audio be good enough to make a cat think it's > outdoors? My internal skeptic says NO, but... Dunno if you followed the link I posted, but that's exactly the reaction the writer saw with his cat. HD was real enough to make the cat react. Article: 340433 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Loose tuning slug.... Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 12:42:56 GMT Hello all, What is the best way to keep a loose tuning slug from moving once adjusted. I am aligning a Hallicrafters S120 and one of the tuning slugs is loose in the form except at the extreme ends of it's travel. Is something available that could hold it in place, but not permanently, in case it needs to be realigned in the future? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bobby KC9IHK Article: 340434 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Loose tuning slug.... Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:48:30 +0900 Message-ID: References: -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! "Robert Sherrod" wrote in message news:k3YGg.7976$aJ.3528@attbi_s21... > Hello all, > > What is the best way to keep a loose tuning slug from moving once > adjusted. I am aligning a Hallicrafters S120 and one of the tuning slugs > is loose in the form except at the extreme ends of it's travel. Is > something available that could hold it in place, but not permanently, in > case it needs to be realigned in the future? > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, Small piece of rubber band Article: 340435 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Art's Antique Radios" References: Subject: Re: Stewart Warner R102 info wanted Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 08:03:19 -0500 Message-ID: need to clarify - it is the floor model. "Art's Antique Radios" wrote in message news:J7-dnVlS57-1VHbZnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@comcast.com... > Got a call today about this radio and cant seem to find any information. > Appears to be an early Stewart Warner but no pictures anywhere. > > Does anyone have any information or pictures? > > Thanks > Article: 340436 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: Loose tuning slug.... References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:06:54 GMT A length of string (or dental floss) run through the coil form? Seems to me I have seen some original coils with the string through it. Bill Jeffrey Article: 340437 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" References: Subject: Re: Loose tuning slug.... Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:07:10 -0400 Service cement works - easily broken free if re-adjustment needed. Apply where the adjustment screw passes through the metal "nut". Available from the usual sources - used to repair speaker cones. Dave "Robert Sherrod" wrote in message news:k3YGg.7976$aJ.3528@attbi_s21... > Hello all, > > What is the best way to keep a loose tuning slug from moving once > adjusted. I am aligning a Hallicrafters S120 and one of the tuning slugs > is loose in the form except at the extreme ends of it's travel. Is > something available that could hold it in place, but not permanently, in > case it needs to be realigned in the future? > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Bobby > KC9IHK Article: 340438 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Mystery Turntable Date: 23 Aug 2006 06:40:17 -0700 Message-ID: <1156340416.910462.283150@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: John Smith wrote: > If anyone has one I need a photo of the missing bit if possible. > No clue, but only the Brits would mount the motor at right-angles to the TT rotation. My guess is that the brass flanged wheel had a rubber tire (tyre) on it that ran against the TT. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 340439 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: HERE'S a Great Crate References: <12enfusgnon90fc@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 08:56:01 -0500 Tom Adkins wrote: > Hagstar wrote: >> I'd pay a couple hundred for this crate myself. I have no idea what I >> would do with it though :) >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Victrola-Shipping-Crate-w-Superb-Nipper-Litho_W0QQitemZ220017859465 >> >> >> John H. >> > > I know what I would do with it. I'd put it in my living room in that > funky corner that nothing seems to look right in (I'm single) ;) There > can't be many of those left around. > I started to complain of the state of the owner's pictures. However, on second thought.... I think the bad pictures are a tease. You can see just enough to want more. Of course, to see more, you have to win the auction. One of those instances where bad is good.... jak Article: 340440 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: Loose tuning slug.... References: Message-ID: <8eZGg.529$y7.224@bignews6.bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:04:27 -0500 Robert Sherrod wrote: > Hello all, > > What is the best way to keep a loose tuning slug from moving once > adjusted. I am aligning a Hallicrafters S120 and one of the tuning slugs > is loose in the form except at the extreme ends of it's travel. Is > something available that could hold it in place, but not permanently, in > case it needs to be realigned in the future? > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Bobby > KC9IHK > Drip some wax into the form (what they used originally). jak Article: 340441 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:06:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Mystery Turntable From: John Stone Message-ID: References: <1156340416.910462.283150@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 8/23/06 8:40 AM, in article 1156340416.910462.283150@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, "Peter Wieck" wrote: > > John Smith wrote: > >> If anyone has one I need a photo of the missing bit if possible. >> > > No clue, but only the Brits would mount the motor at right-angles to > the TT rotation. My guess is that the brass flanged wheel had a rubber > tire (tyre) on it that ran against the TT. > Not just the Brits, Peter. Lenco (Swiss) did this as well. Article: 340442 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Loose tuning slug.... References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:11:31 GMT I'll second what Brenda Ann said about using a rubber band. Similar to the other comment about dental floss. It will hold the coil in place inside the form. Note: Do not use the red "cheap" ones that the throw away papers come in. They'll self destruct and glue your coil together with melted rubber. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 340443 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bobby" Subject: Re: Loose tuning slug.... Date: 23 Aug 2006 07:20:45 -0700 Message-ID: <1156342845.560218.267570@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Thanks everyone, I have service cement, wax and string I could use. Maybe I'll use all three. LOL. Thanks again for all of your suggestions. This group has been a big help to me over that past several years. Bobby KC9IHK Robert Sherrod wrote: > Hello all, > > What is the best way to keep a loose tuning slug from moving once > adjusted. I am aligning a Hallicrafters S120 and one of the tuning slugs > is loose in the form except at the extreme ends of it's travel. Is > something available that could hold it in place, but not permanently, in > case it needs to be realigned in the future? > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Bobby > KC9IHK Article: 340444 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Mystery Turntable Date: 23 Aug 2006 07:31:04 -0700 Message-ID: <1156343464.891410.115890@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: John Stone wrote: > On 8/23/06 8:40 AM, in article > 1156340416.910462.283150@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, "Peter Wieck" > wrote: > > > > > John Smith wrote: > > > >> If anyone has one I need a photo of the missing bit if possible. > >> > > > > No clue, but only the Brits would mount the motor at right-angles to > > the TT rotation. My guess is that the brass flanged wheel had a rubber > > tire (tyre) on it that ran against the TT. > > > Not just the Brits, Peter. Lenco (Swiss) did this as well. Learn something new each day. Thanky you. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 340445 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Does your cat watch HDTV? Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <12emqoi3dgjpg5b@news.supernews.com> <1156307954.492332.286860@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <-JOdnZy8e7lLeHbZnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@comcast.com> In <-JOdnZy8e7lLeHbZnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@comcast.com> Tom Adkins writes: > Could the video and audio be good enough to make a cat think it's outdoors? My >internal skeptic says NO, but... I work in television post-production, and see HD every day as-good-as-it-gets: 35mm film transfers direct to a $50K monitor. While HD is indeed very, very good -- you can leave a nose print on the glass and still not see scan lines -- there's no mistaking it for reality. It's not quite like looking thru a glass window. The eye has much better spatial acuity. There's still subtle detail missing in shadows that give you 3D cues in real life. However, cats, like people, have different levels of eyesight. Some of them, especially older cats, are terribly nearsighted. And I think cats are smart enough to perhaps "allow" themselves at times to be "fooled", all in the sense of fun. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340446 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Loose tuning slug.... Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 07:39:18 -0700 Message-ID: <9279-44EC6896-34@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> References: <1156342845.560218.267570@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Bobby: A strand of neoprene rubber from a bicycle inner tube would be your best bet. Won't deteriorate over time. Bill(oc) Article: 340447 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> <1156204607.865504.182310@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <12elq02aabutbfd@corp.supernews.com> <12enhk5rt3m8e2e@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:47:44 GMT In article <12enhk5rt3m8e2e@corp.supernews.com>, yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net says... > > >I've almost never seen those rolling pin dial Silvertone consoles- otherwise >quite attractive- with intact Tenite bezels though! > >John H. > > I have a complete Silvertone Teledial Rolling Pin console... with a good tenite bezel on it... yup it is a complete one.. see your email regarding the bezel for the RCA ... I need your address to ship it to.. John k9uwa Article: 340448 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Lyndell Scott" References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> <1156204607.865504.182310@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <12elq02aabutbfd@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:50:08 GMT Mark, I recently restored a Motorola with a shrunken plastic bezel. I did just as you suggested, except since it was round, only had to slice one side. I used moldable plastic epoxy for the filler and toned it to match the surrounding plastic. It worked great and one could not tell it had been patched. -- Lyndell Scott Audio Antiques http://geocities.com/lfscott@flash.net Article: 340449 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "frenchy" Subject: Re: Does your cat watch HDTV? Date: 23 Aug 2006 09:15:52 -0700 Message-ID: <1156349751.856647.28590@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <12emqoi3dgjpg5b@news.supernews.com> My dinky, scruffy terrier used to like to watch animals on TV, especially cats. Now she is totally blind with cataracts and just barks and what comes out of the speaker, such as puppies whining and felines meowing. Article: 340450 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" References: <12enfusgnon90fc@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: HERE'S a Great Crate Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:20:15 -0500 Message-ID: There's a complete Edison Diamond Disc crate in an auction that is still active. Years ago I bought a still uncrated Edison disc machine from a former Edison dealer. I also bought a bunch of NOS discs that had never been played, eight Long Play discs in sleeves and last but not least a tuning record. I didn't have enough sense at the time to look through the many drawers for spare diamond needle bars. It was like opening up a mummy sarcophagus. I have one side of the crate hanging on the wall in my radio room. Oh, for the good old days when you could find stuff like that.......... Bruce "Hagstar" wrote in message news:12enfusgnon90fc@corp.supernews.com... > I'd pay a couple hundred for this crate myself. I have no idea what I > would do with it though :) > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Victrola-Shipping-Crate-w-Superb-Nipper-Litho_W0QQitemZ220017859465 > > John H. > Article: 340451 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" References: <6bKdnaSGG64ziXfZnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1156192505.893448.218510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Scott Beam of Light Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:22:25 -0500 Message-ID: > > Including a rather sexy chairside: > > http://radiodaze.com/Scott-Sixteen.htm > > Understated but very nice looking wood. > > -- > Tim Mullen Beautiful walnut and lines. I particularly like that sled base, very very nice. Bruce Article: 340452 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156129192.715324.296320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156173520.384483.50430@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <12ek32min4g6296@corp.supernews.com> <1156205478.265104.219670@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:27:02 -0500 Message-ID: >>And yes, the older I get the more I am trying to get rid of >>all that excess stuff. > > You've got my address if you need to get rid of that > you-know-what. :) > > I'm here for ya, man. > > -- > Tim Mullen Right back at 'cha! I think I'm starting to tear up. :-)))) Bruce Article: 340453 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" References: <12ea73tgcdi2b51@corp.supernews.com> <1155911506.455769.191830@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e5d67b$0$15849$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ecvnp2lc2p104@corp.supernews.com> <44e76ed1$0$24978$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44e7eff7$0$1828$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12egk843vkgqr3e@corp.supernews.com> <1156077139.623261.154400@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <12eh0sf3b6lpv4e@corp.supernews.com> <1156092587.938175.198690@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <035Gg.26575$8j3.25360@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <1156296940.455919.142670@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: This SEEMS Like a Nice Radio Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:38:56 -0500 Message-ID: "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1156296940.455919.142670@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > Superhet wrote: >> How about you give the old lady the $50 and take the radio. Then, since >> you have the address you send a check for whatever you feel is right to >> you and you are both happy! > > > i have thought of that. i also think i could be more diplomatic than > just saying "that phonograph is worth 10 times what you are asking." > I have this "thing"...I just can't stand seeing something going to possible ruin if I can save it. I can't help it, some kind of character flaw perhaps. I bought a nice RCA console radio (can't remember the model but it had the magic brain and still had the cover on it, one with the sealed speaker chamber w/ those "tuned rods") for 22.00 after going around the block a few times, coming home and asking for info on it here. To make a long story short, I posted and took off immediately without waiting for an answer and bought the thing. It stayed in the garage until John G. ended up with it for what I paid for it along with a couple more. It was a nice set...for somebody and I had done my "good deed" of 'saving' it. A nice Credenza is WELL worth trying to save, especially if it's on an open porch, for Pete's sake. I'm afraid now it will be a nice veneer donor. It's better than bringing puppies home..........:-) Not that I haven't done that too. B. Article: 340454 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "marty" Subject: Re: grundig 3059 Date: 23 Aug 2006 09:43:16 -0700 Message-ID: <1156351396.450403.172540@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1154263570.512422.192940@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Peter (and others) Thanks for your help. Work and travel continue to get in the way of any relaxation. Does anyone want to call my Boss? I checked virtually all of the brown resistors last night (20+), clipping one leg, checking, and then resoldering. All but one were spot on. Offending resistor runs from tube ECC83, pin 7. per schema = 6.8m, observed 7.7m (checked 3x) Questions - Do I need to check ALL of the brown resistors? Some of them will be nightmares to get to. Is there an allowable % variance for resistors, as with capacitors? .....And....No, I have not replaced the 3w power resistor. I am going to order another batch of parts soon. Thanks, MAR Article: 340455 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" Subject: J&B Weld Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:47:45 -0500 Message-ID: Has anybody ever cut threads into this material? I have what amounts to a half-nut on the end of a small rod. It is made of brass. The top of it has threads cut into it and is moved back and forth by a steel adjusting screw. The threads in the brass rod are the culprit as the thing slips and the threads don't look the best. The rod and adjusting screw are in a tone arm and the screw is the adjustment for the rod that activates the automatic shutoff for the machine. I know this material can do just about anything as I have used it to fix just about anything. Thanks to Peter W., as he is the one that made me think about using this material in another post. I'm just wondering if anybody has ever tried cutting threads into this cured material. OR........if anybody has any other suggestions, I would appreciate hearing them. Bruce Article: 340456 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <6QOGg.6009$hP6.740@trnddc04> Subject: Can we throw this on Mark Oppat's bonfire? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:25:00 GMT Okay, I'll make a couple more checks before calling it quits, but I'm about to cut my losses. I don't think the oscillator is running, and I think the fixed coil is bad. I recall when cutting the capacitor lead off, the terminal post was very loose -- and the wire may be broken. It will take me another 2 hours of labor just to find out. I'll give the customer a choice -- offer a discount on a conversion, or send it back like it is. Of course with 6 volts and electronic pushbuttons, a conversion isn't exactly cheap either -- but might be less expensive than continuing with this nonsense. I've posted a couple of photos on the binaries. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:6QOGg.6009$hP6.740@trnddc04... >I received a car radio today for repair/rebuild, and I've got to say it's >the worst yet in terms of servicability. It's a shame, because it doesn't >need much -- just the usual rebuild. Vibrator is bad, electrolytics are >leaky, force B+ into it and it plays. > > This is a Mopar 804, from a 49 De Soto. It is a goofy-shaped radio, with > a big dial up top -- WAY up top -- and those electronic pushbuttons along > the bottom. In fact the buttons are so far down that they each have > bellcranks to push in the switches themselves. > > Here's what's inside: the chassis is in the middle, with the vibrator, > filter, and rectifier facing downward. The related wiring is on top. The > rest of the radio has the tubes on top with the wiring on the bottom -- > sort of a predecessor to a two-sided PCB, only with a metal chassis and > tubes. > > But that's not the best of it. The tuner, with its electronic pushbutton > array, sits below the chassis, mounted in such a way that you cannot reach > any component without removing the entire tuner! So what's involved in > removing the tuner? Remove the wiring from the tuning coils, remove the > wiring from the pushbutton array, remove the wiring (very short) from the > on-off switch which is located in the exact center of the radio and > surrounded by the rest of it, remove the wiring from the volume/tone > controls, remove wiring from various stationary coils, and finally -- not > one but TWO dial strings! One is for the dial pointer, the other for the > tone control. > > With the chassis and tuner totally disassembled, you can replace most of > the caps. I say most, because there is one cap located inside the > pushbutton array itself. Sorry, that one ain't gonna be replaced! > > As I type this, I've replaced all the caps except the one. I'm ready to > reassemble. Now -- if you've been on this list for any time at all, you > know that recap lesson #101 says you should turn the radio on after > replacing 2-3 caps. This way, if the radio should quit working you know > where to check. Well, I've removed and disassembled a complete tuner with > electronic pushbuttons, then recapped the entire chassis, and am about to > reassemble. There is no other way to do it. Pray for me. > > Motorola made this thing -- what were they thinking about? I'd love to > locate the fellow who designed this one, and make him replace that last > cap, but they probably don't allow soldering irons in that section of the > nursing home . . . > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > Article: 340457 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: J&B Weld Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:34:49 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "Bruce Mercer" writes: >Has anybody ever cut threads into this material? I have what amounts to a >half-nut on the end of a small rod. It is made of brass. The top of it has >threads cut into it and is moved back and forth by a steel adjusting screw. >The threads in the brass rod are the culprit as the thing slips and the >threads don't look the best. The rod and adjusting screw are in a tone arm >and the screw is the adjustment for the rod that activates the automatic >shutoff for the machine. I know this material can do just about anything as >I have used it to fix just about anything. Thanks to Peter W., as he is the >one that made me think about using this material in another post. I'm just >wondering if anybody has ever tried cutting threads into this cured >material. >OR........if anybody has any other suggestions, I would appreciate hearing >them. Loctite makes a thread repair kit called "Form-A-Thread": http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=439683&eventPage=1 I bought some from McMaster-Carr years ago, but never got around to using it. I don't know if it's still good (hope so, I still have the problem :). Anyway, if you google for Loctite Form-A-Thread it looks like you can get it from lots of places, even Ace Hardware carries it. Loctite makes good stuff. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340458 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: J&B Weld Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:36:01 -0700 Message-ID: <2974-44EC9201-62@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: Bruce: I've used JB Weld in model aircraft building, specifically in forming landing-gear attachment plates. Where It was necessary to cut screw threads in the material, it is too 'crumbly' to hold threads. So what i did was flow some CA glue into the hole after the first tapping, let the CA cure, and then tapped the hole again. Then the JB was able to hold threads. The CA (cyanoacrylate or 'crazy glue') is the 'real' CA, not the odorless variety. I use 'Zap' brand which is known high quality. Incidently, the JB weld was mixed 50/50 per the instructions and was definitely *not* contaminated in any way. The stuff is not all it's cracked up to be, IMHO. Bill(oc) Article: 340459 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: J&B Weld Date: 23 Aug 2006 11:06:33 -0700 Message-ID: <1156356393.324114.200570@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: Bruce Mercer wrote: > Has anybody ever cut threads into this material? I have what amounts to a > half-nut on the end of a small rod. It is made of brass. > OR........if anybody has any other suggestions, I would appreciate hearing > them. > Bruce Bruce, It occurred to me that if your item is brass you could solder or braze (using plumbing solder) parts onto it. I'm not sure I can visualize the geometry here, in spite of your detailed description, so I don't know if that would work, but I just thought I'd mention it. I suppose it would eliminate the adjustability of the thing. Tox Article: 340460 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Black Dial and bluebird 1 BOX HERE Date: 23 Aug 2006 11:07:43 -0700 Message-ID: <1156356463.319776.67960@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1153952283.300964.3230@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Dialglass, bezel and the biggest speaker I've ever had in my house got here this morning, and actually "early"...one of the postal workers noticed it and he thinks the other is on the truck but the two were split up by accident, so he came over and delivered it himself (and the confirmation email came 30 minutes later for it)! I have to write a thank you note for their diligence all these years... That means it's about time to call for my cabinet and see if I need my folks to help me take anything to Boise or not. So far a good day and I slept great and managed to pretty much align my HK230A and I sat down and repaired my headphones too. I hope I can get the other receiver done tonight and sell up some groceries. Article: 340461 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <6QOGg.6009$hP6.740@trnddc04> Subject: MIRACLE! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:10:48 GMT Well, it looks as though a couple of final checks paid off. Although there is positively no way I can reach that coil, I was able to read from various test points and determine that the coil is okay. I then took an RF generator and set it to 455 (yes, 455) just to see what I find. Forget the signal -- I touched it to a tube socket and noticed the pin move very easily, along with a resistor that also moved. The other lead of that resistor had somehow gotten sheared off and was disconnected. Even better, it's in a place where I can reach it. Resoldered it back in place, radio works! Also, cleaning the tube sockets indeed eliminated the noises. I'm not sure how this particular resistor would affect the oscillator, but who cares. Time to go into the kitchen and celebrate . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:6QOGg.6009$hP6.740@trnddc04... >I received a car radio today for repair/rebuild, and I've got to say it's >the worst yet in terms of servicability. It's a shame, because it doesn't >need much -- just the usual rebuild. Vibrator is bad, electrolytics are >leaky, force B+ into it and it plays. > > This is a Mopar 804, from a 49 De Soto. It is a goofy-shaped radio, with > a big dial up top -- WAY up top -- and those electronic pushbuttons along > the bottom. In fact the buttons are so far down that they each have > bellcranks to push in the switches themselves. > > Here's what's inside: the chassis is in the middle, with the vibrator, > filter, and rectifier facing downward. The related wiring is on top. The > rest of the radio has the tubes on top with the wiring on the bottom -- > sort of a predecessor to a two-sided PCB, only with a metal chassis and > tubes. > > But that's not the best of it. The tuner, with its electronic pushbutton > array, sits below the chassis, mounted in such a way that you cannot reach > any component without removing the entire tuner! So what's involved in > removing the tuner? Remove the wiring from the tuning coils, remove the > wiring from the pushbutton array, remove the wiring (very short) from the > on-off switch which is located in the exact center of the radio and > surrounded by the rest of it, remove the wiring from the volume/tone > controls, remove wiring from various stationary coils, and finally -- not > one but TWO dial strings! One is for the dial pointer, the other for the > tone control. > > With the chassis and tuner totally disassembled, you can replace most of > the caps. I say most, because there is one cap located inside the > pushbutton array itself. Sorry, that one ain't gonna be replaced! > > As I type this, I've replaced all the caps except the one. I'm ready to > reassemble. Now -- if you've been on this list for any time at all, you > know that recap lesson #101 says you should turn the radio on after > replacing 2-3 caps. This way, if the radio should quit working you know > where to check. Well, I've removed and disassembled a complete tuner with > electronic pushbuttons, then recapped the entire chassis, and am about to > reassemble. There is no other way to do it. Pray for me. > > Motorola made this thing -- what were they thinking about? I'd love to > locate the fellow who designed this one, and make him replace that last > cap, but they probably don't allow soldering irons in that section of the > nursing home . . . > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > Article: 340462 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: MIRACLE! Date: 23 Aug 2006 11:14:54 -0700 Message-ID: <1156356894.308274.91320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <6QOGg.6009$hP6.740@trnddc04> Gary Tayman wrote: > Well, it looks as though a couple of final checks paid off. Although there > is positively no way I can reach that coil, I was able to read from various > test points and determine that the coil is okay. > > I then took an RF generator and set it to 455 (yes, 455) just to see what I > find. Forget the signal -- I touched it to a tube socket and noticed the > pin move very easily, along with a resistor that also moved. The other lead > of that resistor had somehow gotten sheared off and was disconnected. Even > better, it's in a place where I can reach it. Resoldered it back in place, > radio works! Also, cleaning the tube sockets indeed eliminated the noises. > > I'm not sure how this particular resistor would affect the oscillator, but > who cares. > > Time to go into the kitchen and celebrate . . . Some of what made Bud wiser! Article: 340463 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: J&B Weld References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:22:57 -0400 Can you drill a bigger hole and tap it? The best epoxy for threading I've found is the polyester type, works well when casting knobs. Ken Bruce Mercer wrote: > Has anybody ever cut threads into this material? I have what amounts to a > half-nut on the end of a small rod. It is made of brass. The top of it has > threads cut into it and is moved back and forth by a steel adjusting screw. > The threads in the brass rod are the culprit as the thing slips and the > threads don't look the best. The rod and adjusting screw are in a tone arm > and the screw is the adjustment for the rod that activates the automatic > shutoff for the machine. I know this material can do just about anything as > I have used it to fix just about anything. Thanks to Peter W., as he is the > one that made me think about using this material in another post. I'm just > wondering if anybody has ever tried cutting threads into this cured > material. > OR........if anybody has any other suggestions, I would appreciate hearing > them. > Bruce > > Article: 340464 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: njengineer@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Scott Beam of Light Date: 23 Aug 2006 11:24:48 -0700 Message-ID: <1156357488.304471.74490@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <6bKdnaSGG64ziXfZnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com> here's a beam of light on ebay now.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140021947531&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX&refitem=260021216083&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&refwidgettype=osi_widget I have no connection to this set or the seller, Nate Article: 340465 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <6QOGg.6009$hP6.740@trnddc04> <1156356894.308274.91320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: MIRACLE! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:30:52 GMT "Steven" wrote in message news:1156356894.308274.91320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > Some of what made Bud wiser! > I don't know; I think the guy who designed this thing had a lot of that to drink, and it didn't help him . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 340466 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: szekeres@pitt.edu (GregS) Subject: Re: J&B Weld Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:46:08 GMT Message-ID: References: In article , "Bruce Mercer" wrote: >Has anybody ever cut threads into this material? I have what amounts to a >half-nut on the end of a small rod. It is made of brass. The top of it has >threads cut into it and is moved back and forth by a steel adjusting screw. >The threads in the brass rod are the culprit as the thing slips and the >threads don't look the best. The rod and adjusting screw are in a tone arm >and the screw is the adjustment for the rod that activates the automatic >shutoff for the machine. I know this material can do just about anything as >I have used it to fix just about anything. Thanks to Peter W., as he is the >one that made me think about using this material in another post. I'm just >wondering if anybody has ever tried cutting threads into this cured >material. >OR........if anybody has any other suggestions, I would appreciate hearing >them. It will probably work. There is an epoxy, which happens to be thermally conductive, which is machinable. It looks like black anodized aluminum. epoxies.com 50-3159R greg Article: 340467 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: MIRACLE! Date: 23 Aug 2006 11:49:02 -0700 Message-ID: <1156358942.106379.3320@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <6QOGg.6009$hP6.740@trnddc04> Gary Tayman wrote: > "Steven" wrote in message > news:1156356894.308274.91320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > > > Some of what made Bud wiser! > > > > I don't know; I think the guy who designed this thing had a lot of that to > drink, and it didn't help him . . . Yeah, guess it never made my Uncle Bud wiser either. Just drunk in Da Nang. Article: 340468 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: J&B Weld Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:45:10 -0700 Message-ID: <2974-44ECA236-75@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: <44EC970A.E65A206B@earthlink.net> >From Michael T.: >Was it fresh stock? Yep, brand new and just bought. Unless it had been on the store shelf a long time. >Epoxy goes bad on the shelf. oc Article: 340469 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <6bKdnaSGG64ziXfZnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1156192505.893448.218510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156357488.304471.74490@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Scott Beam of Light Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:02:34 GMT wrote in message news:1156357488.304471.74490@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > here's a beam of light on ebay now.... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140021947531&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX&refitem=260021216083&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&refwidgettype=osi_widget > > I have no connection to this set or the seller, > > Nate > Looks like one of the eye tubes is winking. jim menning Article: 340470 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: szekeres@pitt.edu (GregS) Subject: Re: J&B Weld Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:20:02 GMT Message-ID: References: <44EC970A.E65A206B@earthlink.net> <2974-44ECA236-75@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> In article <2974-44ECA236-75@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net>, oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) wrote: >From Michael T.: > >>Was it fresh stock? > >Yep, brand new and just bought. Unless it had been on the store shelf a >long time. > >>Epoxy goes bad on the shelf. They say that, and I think some really go bad, but others just take longer to cure. A long setting epoxy is much stronger than a 5 minuite epoxy, and lasts longer in time without getting gummy. I have some epoxy in the drawer thats more than 10 years old. Still works. Sometime heating it up works better if there is a problem. greg Article: 340471 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Most unservicable! Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:00:21 -0700 Message-ID: <2975-44ECB3D5-10@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: >..."Lizards in a Radio".... :-) Hmm.. sounds like a case of reptile dysfunction. :-) oc Article: 340472 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: om2.1@netzero.net Subject: Re: J&B Weld Date: 23 Aug 2006 13:26:16 -0700 Message-ID: <1156364776.588577.252020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <44EC970A.E65A206B@earthlink.net> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > It was still usable for some things, but as it aged it didn't get as > hard as it was supposed to. That statement applies to more than just epoxy Article: 340473 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "bobbbo" References: <12emqoi3dgjpg5b@news.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Does your cat watch HDTV? Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:28:11 -0400 Message-ID: <5c119$44ecba48$d1cc7adb$26447@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> I would rather have my cat sit watching the TeeVee than doing THIS..... ---> here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5LRY16q0Qo Article: 340474 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Smith" Subject: Re: Mystery Turntable Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:35:05 +1200 Message-ID: References: <1156340416.910462.283150@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Yes Peter you are correct. Have those pieces and am pretty sure the plate missing has the cutout like a gearshift gate that allows speed change. A heck of a complex drive to the platter . Understand it was made for the BBC . Looks to me like a Sugden product but I expect other British manufactures used the same Broan hammertone finish.. The heavy cast alloy platter has an inch wide rim to accomodate the drive. john "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1156340416.910462.283150@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > John Smith wrote: > >> If anyone has one I need a photo of the missing bit if possible. >> > > No clue, but only the Brits would mount the motor at right-angles to > the TT rotation. My guess is that the brass flanged wheel had a rubber > tire (tyre) on it that ran against the TT. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 340475 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) Subject: Re: Litz wire in TRF's- will it work? Date: 23 Aug 2006 20:44:13 GMT Message-ID: References: <1156183360.563346.313340@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> "Pete_O" writes: >Universal windings were invented to reduce self-capacitance of a winding by >making sure no nearby winding is parallel to another. This allows maximum Q >and maximum tuning range. They are hard to wind and generally require a >machine like a Morris Coil Winder with the correct feed >A "scramble" wound coil is the poor man's version. If you need to make a >**Tnx for teaching me the latest terms and techniques. My department wound >Q standards (Boonton Radio Q Meters) and I understand the universal >winding- it was called cross-hatch in the ancient days. Distributed C >isn't really an issue since I'm not matching to a calibrated dial. I will >be relying on the nylon serving and perhaps a row of removable thread to >keep my turns separated. I just wish my quote for the wire would come >through. The old wire was very resistive so I'm begining to think that Q >may not be an issue. Thanks all for help -Pete How many feet do you need? I can probably spool off some wire. I'd have to see if we have any served wire in your size. We pay about $500 for a spool of served litz (3-5 pounds). Steve. -- Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA Article: 340476 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" Subject: Zenith TO 1000 repair in Seattle area? Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:02:03 -0700 Message-ID: Does anybody know someone willing to attempt repairing this item? I don't have the time and a couple of other queries have not panned out. You can email me directly via http://antiqueradio.org/contact.htm . Thanks. Phil Nelson ----------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Nelson Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:29 PM Subject: Zenith TransOceanic 1000 "string idler?" I got the following email from a visitor to my website. Never having cracked open my working TO 1000, I'm not sure what would be meant by the "string idler," or whether it's as unobtainable as the service guy claimed. Perhaps it's the medium-sized pulley-gizmo shown in the stringing diagram ( http://www.transoceanic.nostalgiaair.org/1000.htm ) which shows two larger and three smaller pulleys. Is there something peculiar about that part that would make it likely to break? In my experience, the cords will break long before other things in such an assembly. The owner lives not far from me. If this requires parts fabrication, I don't have the equipment for that, but with a little better info, perhaps I could send them in the right direction. Phil Nelson ---------------------------------- I am trying to find someone to repair a 93 year old family friend's radio. It is a Zenith Royal 1000. We were told that it needs a new string idler. In the past, he has had the radio fixed through Radio Shack. This Spring we took it there and they shipped it to someone in Utah who said that the string idler was the problem, but that the part was no longer available, so the radio couldn't be fixed. The family friend now lives in an assisted living facility and I would love to be able to get the radio fixed for him. ---------------------------------- Article: 340477 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: J&B Weld Date: 23 Aug 2006 15:07:47 -0700 Message-ID: <1156370867.423518.214040@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <44EC970A.E65A206B@earthlink.net> om2.1@netzero.net wrote: > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > > It was still usable for some things, but as it aged it didn't get as > > hard as it was supposed to. > > That statement applies to more than just epoxy Did your pills get the "blues"? Article: 340478 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "JaneyP" Subject: 1950 Television building manual FA Date: 23 Aug 2006 15:39:26 -0700 Message-ID: <1156372765.975718.61380@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> The Premier TV Kit using 9 or 12 inch tube (Long Range Model) 32 pages. This is (I think!) an instructional book for the building of a television ,using bits manafactured by the Premier Television company of London. Nice early TV collectable! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320018406408&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 Article: 340479 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <12emqoi3dgjpg5b@news.supernews.com> <5c119$44ecba48$d1cc7adb$26447@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> Subject: Re: Does your cat watch HDTV? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:00:56 GMT Now that was funny. I almost fell on the floor laughing...but on a more serious note, the cat did seem to realize after a while that it would have to wait before flushing again. William Article: 340480 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" Subject: FA: Mallory book worth having (not mine) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:29:54 -0400 Message-ID: I use my Mallory 6th ed (1946) a fair bit. This one is 3rd ed, I think its 1939 or so, so it covers up to that. gives lots of info on radios, tubes in each, Mallory control replacement, etc. http://cgi.ebay.com/MALLORY-RADIO-SERVICE-ENCYCLOPEDIA-TUBE-CATALOG-VINTAGE_W0QQitemZ260024666655QQihZ016QQcategoryZ7275QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Mark Oppat Article: 340481 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Mallory book worth having (not mine) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 01:33:19 GMT "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:VOSdnWLc66KynXDZnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@comcast.com... >I use my Mallory 6th ed (1946) a fair bit. This one is 3rd ed, I think its > 1939 or so, so it covers up to that. > gives lots of info on radios, tubes in each, Mallory control replacement, > etc. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/MALLORY-RADIO-SERVICE-ENCYCLOPEDIA-TUBE-CATALOG-VINTAGE_W0QQitemZ260024666655QQihZ016QQcategoryZ7275QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Mark Oppat > > > Be aware that it's the Canadian version though. jim menning Article: 340482 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Barry" References: <44EC970A.E65A206B@earthlink.net> <2974-44ECA236-75@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: J&B Weld Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:50:27 -0500 Message-ID: "GregS" wrote in message news:eci9pq$s1a$2@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu... > In article <2974-44ECA236-75@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net>, oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) wrote: > >From Michael T.: > > > >>Was it fresh stock? > > > >Yep, brand new and just bought. Unless it had been on the store shelf a > >long time. > > > >>Epoxy goes bad on the shelf. > > They say that, and I think some really go bad, but others just > take longer to cure. A long setting epoxy is much stronger than a 5 minuite epoxy, > and lasts longer in time without getting gummy. > > I have some epoxy in the drawer thats more than 10 years old. > Still works. Sometime heating it up works better if there is a problem. > > greg JB Weld also comes in both quick-setting and long-setting formulas (formulae?). Were you using the quick-setting formula? Also, it may depend on the size of threads you are trying to tap. A 4-40 might not work, but a 1/2-13 might. Barry - N4BUQ Article: 340483 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: bwv582@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT: On the behavior of Cats and Mozart Date: 23 Aug 2006 19:13:40 -0700 Message-ID: <1156385619.921439.127810@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1156190365.759983.128330@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> I conducted the same experiment twice, with the same CD recording and two cats (Siamese-Tortoise Shell mix, litter mates, >15 years old), inconsequential Pioneer player and Boston speakers. On both occasions, one cat got inspired to go munch on something upon 'Laudamus te' and the other one soon followed. They went back to napping by the time of the 'Domine Deus'. No leaping on laps or residual alertness observed. In my case it takes a Richard Strauss opera to put the cats in an excited state. E.g. the tavern scene in Der Rosenkavalier Act III :-) Article: 340484 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: J&B Weld Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:48:02 -0400 Message-ID: <12eq4r1n33o7rec@news.supernews.com> References: <44EC970A.E65A206B@earthlink.net> <2974-44ECA236-75@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> <44ECAC90.366240C8@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:44ECAC90.366240C8@earthlink.net... > GregS wrote: > It was still usable for some things, but as it aged it didn't get as > hard as it was supposed to. Common problem, isn't it? Article: 340487 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Engineer" Subject: Re: Mallory book worth having (not mine) Date: 23 Aug 2006 20:03:35 -0700 Message-ID: <1156388615.157277.62540@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: jim menning wrote: > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:VOSdnWLc66KynXDZnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >I use my Mallory 6th ed (1946) a fair bit. This one is 3rd ed, I think its > > 1939 or so, so it covers up to that. > > gives lots of info on radios, tubes in each, Mallory control replacement, > > etc. > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/MALLORY-RADIO-SERVICE-ENCYCLOPEDIA-TUBE-CATALOG-VINTAGE_W0QQitemZ260024666655QQihZ016QQcategoryZ7275QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > Mark Oppat > > > > > > > > Be aware that it's the Canadian version though. > > jim menning Er... are the physics different up here, Jim... or have I missed something? Cheers, Roger Thornhill, near Toronto, Canada. Article: 340488 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1156388615.157277.62540@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mallory book worth having (not mine) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 03:44:13 GMT "Engineer" wrote in message news:1156388615.157277.62540@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > jim menning wrote: >> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message >> news:VOSdnWLc66KynXDZnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >I use my Mallory 6th ed (1946) a fair bit. This one is 3rd ed, I think its >> > 1939 or so, so it covers up to that. >> > gives lots of info on radios, tubes in each, Mallory control replacement, >> > etc. >> > >> > http://cgi.ebay.com/MALLORY-RADIO-SERVICE-ENCYCLOPEDIA-TUBE-CATALOG-VINTAGE_W0QQitemZ260024666655QQihZ016QQcategoryZ7275QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >> > >> > Mark Oppat >> > >> > >> > >> >> Be aware that it's the Canadian version though. >> >> jim menning > > Er... are the physics different up here, Jim... or have I missed > something? > Cheers, > Roger > Thornhill, near Toronto, Canada. > Hopefully we are using the same physics. But this is not a physics book, it's a parts replacement guide. The book is a resource for chassis identification that lists Mallory and Yaxley branded replacement controls, condensers, and vibrators, but one of it's best features is a way to identify unknown radios by tube complement. The US 3rd edition has over 200 pages of radios broken down by manufacturer and model number. Only the back end of the book is theory and/or service information. My guess is the difference between the US and Canadian versions is that the Canadian book probably lists the Canadian manufacturers as opposed to the US ones. If so, this book would be good for those who collect Canadian radios, but may have little or no value to a US collector. If I'm wrong, someone please let us know. jim menning Article: 340489 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: MIRACLE! Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:44:09 -0700 Message-ID: References: <6QOGg.6009$hP6.740@trnddc04> Gary Tayman wrote: > Well, it looks as though a couple of final checks paid off. Although there > is positively no way I can reach that coil, I was able to read from various > test points and determine that the coil is okay. > > I then took an RF generator and set it to 455 (yes, 455) just to see what I > find. Forget the signal -- I touched it to a tube socket and noticed the > pin move very easily, along with a resistor that also moved. The other lead > of that resistor had somehow gotten sheared off and was disconnected. Even > better, it's in a place where I can reach it. Resoldered it back in place, > radio works! Also, cleaning the tube sockets indeed eliminated the noises. > > I'm not sure how this particular resistor would affect the oscillator, but > who cares. > > Time to go into the kitchen and celebrate . . . > > > Congratulations, Gary....Based on your description of the insides, I probably would have given up on this one, and I'm a masochist. At least you'll know to give a very high estimate for the next one (if there is a next one) -Scott Article: 340490 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: HERE'S a Great Crate Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:52:15 -0700 Message-ID: References: <12enfusgnon90fc@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > I'd pay a couple hundred for this crate myself. I have no idea what I would > do with it though :) > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Victrola-Shipping-Crate-w-Superb-Nipper-Litho_W0QQitemZ220017859465 Use it as a coat closet...It certainly looks big enough. Whoever the winning bidder is will have the only one on their block. -Scott Article: 340491 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: HERE'S a Great Crate Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:06:15 -0700 Message-ID: References: <12enfusgnon90fc@corp.supernews.com> Tim Mullen wrote: > In <12enfusgnon90fc@corp.supernews.com> "Hagstar" writes: > >> I'd pay a couple hundred for this crate myself. I have no idea what I would >> do with it though :) > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Victrola-Shipping-Crate-w-Superb-Nipper-Litho_W0QQitemZ220017859465 > > Now THAT's a crate! Hinges, no less. The color Nipper is fantastic. > Do with it? Dunno. It'd be cool just to look at while reading the > chapter on factory packing in "Look For the Dog". :) > > > Speaking of crate-type-things: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110024116954 > > Where do people find this stuff? :) It's like those dreams you have of > stumbling into an old warehouse, except it's real. Amazing....That radio probably cost about as much as a low priced car, and the owner never even bothered to unbox it! In my shack, I've got the pieces to assemble a crate which once housed a Douglas Aircraft DC-3 engine....Somebody used it to build a loft in what is now my radio repair shack. One of the side pieces has the Douglas logo burned into the wood with a branding iron. Although it is normally invisible (it's covered with carpeting and has dozens of radios stacked on top of it. It adds a nice historical touch to the shack, considering that the DC-3 was conceived and built in the same era as most of my radios. Article: 340492 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: J&B Weld Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:22:48 -0700 Message-ID: References: Tim Mullen wrote: > In "Bruce Mercer" writes: > >> Has anybody ever cut threads into this material? I have what amounts to a >> half-nut on the end of a small rod. It is made of brass. The top of it has >> threads cut into it and is moved back and forth by a steel adjusting screw. >> The threads in the brass rod are the culprit as the thing slips and the >> threads don't look the best. The rod and adjusting screw are in a tone arm >> and the screw is the adjustment for the rod that activates the automatic >> shutoff for the machine. I know this material can do just about anything as >> I have used it to fix just about anything. Thanks to Peter W., as he is the >> one that made me think about using this material in another post. I'm just >> wondering if anybody has ever tried cutting threads into this cured >> material. >> OR........if anybody has any other suggestions, I would appreciate hearing >> them. > > Loctite makes a thread repair kit called "Form-A-Thread": > > http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=439683&eventPage=1 > > I bought some from McMaster-Carr years ago, but never got around to using > it. I don't know if it's still good (hope so, I still have the problem :). > Anyway, if you google for Loctite Form-A-Thread it looks like you can get > it from lots of places, even Ace Hardware carries it. Loctite makes good > stuff. > Loctite advertises this stuff as being suitable for repairing stripped threads in engine blocks. I'd find it hard to believe it wouldn't work on something like this. There is also an epoxy that they sell at auto parts stores that comes in a stick. In its unhardened state it is like putty. After it cures it is literally hard as a rock, with none of the plasticy feel of most epoxies. I think that would take threads well. -Scott Article: 340493 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: J&B Weld Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 00:23:35 -0500 Message-ID: <10888-44ED37D7-166@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: It would be like cutting threads in a piece of cheap made in China metal.It wouldn't hold worh a durn. cuhulin Article: 340494 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Does your cat watch HDTV? Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 00:34:53 -0500 Message-ID: <10888-44ED3A7D-167@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: I own a four and a half years old Blue Heeler Australian Cattle Dog. www.cattledog.com www.acdca.org Sometimes she watches tv for a little while. cuhulin Article: 340495 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Orban" Subject: Re: GE P780E Transistor Set, and other portable AM radios Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 06:39:25 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1155957141.786906.158280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Hello Everyone, With all the talk on the excellent performance of the P780, and the link to an engineering analysis by the original designer, is there a link somewhere to the schematics? I did some Google search, but it came up empty. On another note, I picked up a non functional Sony GR-33 at a garage sale. It is labelled as "Super Sensitive". It is MW only radio. I traced out the schematics. It has 9 transistors, triple gang tuning capacitor, a common emitter pre-amplifier, a separate oscillator, all Si NPN transistors in the RF and IF stages, and Ge PNP transistors in the AF stages. It uses 3 D-cells. (The last IF coil is busted, interestingly, it is a non tunable one.) I also have a few Russian VEF 204-206 radios, they also use Ge PNP transistors and run forever on 6 D-cell batteries. That radio was designed in the early '60s, and produced till the late '70s. It is AM only, with six SW bands plus MW and LW. The yare quite sensitive and selective, on SW I usually can here what my Sony 2010 pulls in. However, the front-end is not as robust, it overloads a lot easier. I still enjoy them, one of them was originally bought my father. Regards, Peter "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1155957141.786906.158280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > I've been looking around for this set for awhile. I finally found one > very reasonable and in good condition at a Hamfest in town. Does > anyone know more about the set? I heard rumor that this was a very > early version of the GE Super Radio line of portable sets. Receiver on > this thing is hot to say the least. Selective as hell, too. I can > hear AM 700 WLW in Cincinatti with WGN's 50k watt transmitter in my > back yard. Looks to be made around 1960. > > > Thanks, > > GB > Article: 340496 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1156190365.759983.128330@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1156385619.921439.127810@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT: On the behavior of Cats and Mozart Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 04:49:07 -0700 Message-ID: > I conducted the same experiment twice, with the same CD recording and > two cats (Siamese-Tortoise Shell mix, litter mates, >15 years old), > inconsequential Pioneer player and Boston speakers. On both occasions, > one cat got inspired to go munch on something upon 'Laudamus te' and > the other one soon followed. They went back to napping by the time of > the 'Domine Deus'. No leaping on laps or residual alertness observed. > In my case it takes a Richard Strauss opera to put the cats in an > excited state. E.g. the tavern scene in Der Rosenkavalier Act III :-) How do they react to the "tender, loving" scene in "Lulu" where she screams as Jack the Ripper murders her? Article: 340497 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: On the behavior of Cats and Mozart Date: 24 Aug 2006 05:49:35 -0700 Message-ID: <1156423775.697073.247880@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1156190365.759983.128330@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> William Sommerwerck wrote: > > I conducted the same experiment twice, with the same CD recording and > > two cats (Siamese-Tortoise Shell mix, litter mates, >15 years old), > > inconsequential Pioneer player and Boston speakers. On both occasions, > > one cat got inspired to go munch on something upon 'Laudamus te' and > > the other one soon followed. They went back to napping by the time of > > the 'Domine Deus'. No leaping on laps or residual alertness observed. > > In my case it takes a Richard Strauss opera to put the cats in an > > excited state. E.g. the tavern scene in Der Rosenkavalier Act III :-) > > How do they react to the "tender, loving" scene in "Lulu" where she screams > as Jack the Ripper murders her? Probably by sitting on the remote and changing the disc : ) Article: 340498 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Does your cat watch HDTV? Date: 24 Aug 2006 05:51:05 -0700 Message-ID: <1156423865.856521.256750@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: No, they stay outside and I don't have HDTV. Article: 340499 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: GE P780E Transistor Set, and other portable AM radios Date: 24 Aug 2006 05:54:05 -0700 Message-ID: <1156424045.863401.214120@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1155957141.786906.158280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> There's a National Radio Club in Canada too? (re: your "addy") Article: 340500 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <6QOGg.6009$hP6.740@trnddc04> Subject: Re: MIRACLE! Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:29:13 -0400 Message-ID: <44eda9a7$0$1018$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> As Leonard said in the game, Redneck Rampage, "My advice to you is to start drinkin'.....HEAVILY!" "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:IS0Hg.13264$RQ5.13220@trnddc03... > Well, it looks as though a couple of final checks paid off. Although > there is positively no way I can reach that coil, I was able to read from > various test points and determine that the coil is okay. > > I then took an RF generator and set it to 455 (yes, 455) just to see what > I find. Forget the signal -- I touched it to a tube socket and noticed > the pin move very easily, along with a resistor that also moved. The > other lead of that resistor had somehow gotten sheared off and was > disconnected. Even better, it's in a place where I can reach it. > Resoldered it back in place, radio works! Also, cleaning the tube sockets > indeed eliminated the noises. > > I'm not sure how this particular resistor would affect the oscillator, but > who cares. > > Time to go into the kitchen and celebrate . . . > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:6QOGg.6009$hP6.740@trnddc04... >>I received a car radio today for repair/rebuild, and I've got to say it's >>the worst yet in terms of servicability. It's a shame, because it doesn't >>need much -- just the usual rebuild. Vibrator is bad, electrolytics are >>leaky, force B+ into it and it plays. >> >> This is a Mopar 804, from a 49 De Soto. It is a goofy-shaped radio, with >> a big dial up top -- WAY up top -- and those electronic pushbuttons along >> the bottom. In fact the buttons are so far down that they each have >> bellcranks to push in the switches themselves. >> >> Here's what's inside: the chassis is in the middle, with the vibrator, >> filter, and rectifier facing downward. The related wiring is on top. >> The rest of the radio has the tubes on top with the wiring on the >> bottom -- sort of a predecessor to a two-sided PCB, only with a metal >> chassis and tubes. >> >> But that's not the best of it. The tuner, with its electronic pushbutton >> array, sits below the chassis, mounted in such a way that you cannot >> reach any component without removing the entire tuner! So what's >> involved in removing the tuner? Remove the wiring from the tuning coils, >> remove the wiring from the pushbutton array, remove the wiring (very >> short) from the on-off switch which is located in the exact center of the >> radio and surrounded by the rest of it, remove the wiring from the >> volume/tone controls, remove wiring from various stationary coils, and >> finally -- not one but TWO dial strings! One is for the dial pointer, >> the other for the tone control. >> >> With the chassis and tuner totally disassembled, you can replace most of >> the caps. I say most, because there is one cap located inside the >> pushbutton array itself. Sorry, that one ain't gonna be replaced! >> >> As I type this, I've replaced all the caps except the one. I'm ready to >> reassemble. Now -- if you've been on this list for any time at all, you >> know that recap lesson #101 says you should turn the radio on after >> replacing 2-3 caps. This way, if the radio should quit working you know >> where to check. Well, I've removed and disassembled a complete tuner >> with electronic pushbuttons, then recapped the entire chassis, and am >> about to reassemble. There is no other way to do it. Pray for me. >> >> Motorola made this thing -- what were they thinking about? I'd love to >> locate the fellow who designed this one, and make him replace that last >> cap, but they probably don't allow soldering irons in that section of the >> nursing home . . . >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> > > Article: 340501 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "455 Pontiac on premium Sunoco-chariot of the gods" Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format Date: 24 Aug 2006 06:37:06 -0700 Message-ID: <1156426625.977398.140890@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Weldon Nudlpudl wrote: > On 9-Aug-2006, "duty-honor-country" wrote: > > > > napalm, bullets and whiskey are our FRIENDS > > > > so is money- money is good, money is our pal... > > That gives new meaning to the idea that you would do anything for a friend. and proves that after you got several warnings, you hid your spare ISP username for a while- how did that taste, little cowering girly ?? Article: 340502 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: unwanted bugs and critters.... Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:42:10 GMT Be glad you don't have this problem... Or this... Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 340503 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: unwanted bugs and critters.... Date: 24 Aug 2006 07:28:09 -0700 Message-ID: <1156429689.269378.140670@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Be glad you don't have this problem... YIKES! That yellow jacket nest is disturbing! Tox Article: 340504 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <6QOGg.6009$hP6.740@trnddc04> Subject: Re: Most unservicable! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:05:07 GMT Okay, so this monster is finished and ready to ship out. It took yet another 1 1/2 hours -- no exaggeration -- to put the covers back on. It's a pretty safe bet that the fellow will drop it or miswire it or something, and it'll come back . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 340505 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hi-volts" Subject: Re: Flea market find; Navy REO 'morale' radio Date: 24 Aug 2006 09:07:08 -0700 Message-ID: <1156435628.233294.84560@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <44e9114e$0$96179$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Hi Steve, Here's a link to my webpage pic of the REP by Crosley. Bigger radio with short wave but has the same warning. Given the date of manufacture and delivery, these were primarily used during the US occupation of the Axis nations. The REP was also sold to civilians as the Pan-American Tropical. Nice find! Rich Steve wrote: > After hearing of all of the great buys some of you find, its > my turn! > > Picked up a very nice Navy model REO 'morale' radio, > built by Crosley. Nice wood cabinet painted Navy grey. > The coolest thing is the tag that says "WARNING: do > not use aborad ship, unsafe radiation limits". Hahahaha.... > Probably used to listen to Tokyo Rose in the closing days > of WWII. > > Does anyone else have one of these? In all of my > years of collecting I've never seen another. > > Steve > p.s.-its a broadcast band only AC/DC radio Article: 340506 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: GE P780E Transistor Set, and other portable AM radios Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 03:56:14 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1155957141.786906.158280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Peter Orban" wrote in message news:ecjvkv$f4m$1@nrc-news.nrc.ca... > Hello Everyone, > > With all the talk on the excellent performance of the P780, and the link > to an engineering analysis by the original designer, is there a link > somewhere to the schematics? > I did some Google search, but it came up empty. The schematic(s) are in Beitman's. There seem to be two different circuits, both mainly the same, but with some difference in the output sections. Beitman's 1960 Pp. 58 (P780A) Beitman's 1966 Pp. 30 (P780H) Can't imagine they made the same radio for 6 years, so I suspect that Beitman's simply discovred there had been some changes and wanted to document them. If you don't have Beitman's, they are available for download online, or I can supply you with a CD with all the Beitman's on it along with the djvu reader plugin for Internet Explorer (plugins are available for other browsers as well). -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! Article: 340507 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: MY WEBSITE MAY NOW BE ACCESSED AS "DIALCOVER.COM" Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:03:03 -0500 Message-ID: <17633-44EE05F7-233@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> BEFORE IT WAS NECESSARY TO ADDRESS IT AS "WWW.DIALCOVER@COM" CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 340509 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Black Dial and bluebird IT'S ALL HERE Date: 24 Aug 2006 13:55:33 -0700 Message-ID: <1156452933.498171.200030@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1153952283.300964.3230@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Waiting for the post office to have it ready at 4 pm and get the cabinet back from Dave. Walked most of the morn and after and saw some headlights/hardware that will be tossed tomorrow, so I'll grab a few specimens and cut the back open some to add LEDs in a back reflecting sceme and put in the Ford bezel I bought from Bill Noble (see I do have a noggin). Don't exactly have binary groups...somebody will have to post for me. Article: 340510 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: J&B Weld Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:58:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "Scott W. Harvey" writes: >There is also an epoxy that they sell at auto parts stores that comes in >a stick. In its unhardened state it is like putty. After it cures it is >literally hard as a rock, with none of the plasticy feel of most >epoxies. I think that would take threads well. Propoxy is one brand. Looks like a tootsie roll, black on the outside with a white center. You tear off a length and knead it together until it's a uniform gray. This stuff is great. I wrap it around lead anchors before inserting them into soft brick. I'm sure it would take a thread, but for what Bruce was asking about I'd try the thread repair kit. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340511 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <17633-44EE05F7-233@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: MY WEBSITE MAY NOW BE ACCESSED AS "DIALCOVER.COM" Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:30:59 GMT It works!!! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Bill Turner" wrote in message news:17633-44EE05F7-233@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net... > BEFORE IT WAS NECESSARY TO ADDRESS IT AS "WWW.DIALCOVER@COM" > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. > > > > Article: 340512 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" References: Subject: Re: J&B Weld Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:43:51 -0500 Message-ID: "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:eci3jp$f2q$1@reader2.panix.com... > In "Bruce Mercer" > writes: > Loctite makes a thread repair kit called "Form-A-Thread": > > http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=439683&eventPage=1 > > I bought some from McMaster-Carr years ago, but never got around to using > it. I don't know if it's still good (hope so, I still have the problem > :). > Anyway, if you google for Loctite Form-A-Thread it looks like you can get > it from lots of places, even Ace Hardware carries it. Loctite makes good > stuff. > > -- > Tim Mullen Thanks guys for all these helpful tips. One of these is bound to work. Bruce Article: 340513 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" References: <6bKdnaSGG64ziXfZnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1156192505.893448.218510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156357488.304471.74490@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Scott Beam of Light Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:50:13 -0500 Message-ID: My postwar Capehart 414N uses a light beam to indicate where you were on the dial. There is a projector with a slit in it that backlights the glass dial. Pretty cool. for some reason it reminds me of Gort with the visor up. :-) Bruce Article: 340514 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: unwanted bugs and critters.... Date: 24 Aug 2006 14:55:17 -0700 Message-ID: <1156456517.244080.71840@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Be glad you don't have this problem... > > Or this... > So why do those two URLs for different papers. apparently owned by different COMPANIES... look so similar? Slightly odd twist for two stories about bizarre infestations that sound like they were carved by some turkey for holiday cash. Article: 340515 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Scott Beam of Light Date: 24 Aug 2006 14:58:57 -0700 Message-ID: <1156456737.185693.91600@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <6bKdnaSGG64ziXfZnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com> Bruce Mercer wrote: > My postwar Capehart 414N uses a light beam to indicate where you were on the > dial. There is a projector with a slit in it that backlights the glass dial. > Pretty cool. for some reason it reminds me of Gort with the visor up. :-) > Bruce Citizens of Earth! We come in peace! Now turn that %^&* down and listen! Article: 340516 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:00:34 -0400 From: Scott Irvine Subject: Arvin 9562 question Message-ID: I have an Arvin model #9562 transistor radio. Circa 1959-60? It uses 6 D batteries. It has a tap at 1.5v. What is the tap for and if I wanted to use an ac adapter would I need to use a 9v and a 1.5v to make the radio work? Thanks for any ideas. Scott Irvine Article: 340517 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "JaneyP" Subject: Vintage Telephone Telephony Handbook 1918 edwardian FA Date: 24 Aug 2006 15:04:09 -0700 Message-ID: <1156457049.038890.282540@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> The Practical Telephone Handbook and Guide to the Telephone Exchange,with 585 illustrations. by Joseph Poole London 1918, boards a bit tired but otherwise a good solid copy. Hugely, massively comprehensive manual of vintage telephony, 725 pages. Covers every concievable aspect of telephony in the early years of the 20th century an is packed with illustrations,diagrams plans etc.Lots of old phones pictured. Extremely useful for the collector/restorer of early vintage phones. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320020798412&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 Article: 340518 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: HERE'S a Great Crate Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:34:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <12enfusgnon90fc@corp.supernews.com> In "Scott W. Harvey" writes: >Tim Mullen wrote: >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110024116954 >Amazing....That radio probably cost about as much as a low priced car, >and the owner never even bothered to unbox it! I wonder what really happened? I wouldn't be surprised if these sets were bought with a certain percentage up front, and the balance to be paid upon delivery. Perhaps the buyer had a change of fortune and was unable to pay the final amount. Nevertheless, quite a find. > In my shack, I've got the pieces to assemble a crate which once housed >a Douglas Aircraft DC-3 engine....Somebody used it to build a loft in >what is now my radio repair shack. >One of the side pieces has the Douglas logo burned into the wood with a >branding iron. Although it is normally invisible (it's covered with >carpeting and has dozens of radios stacked on top of it. It adds a nice >historical touch to the shack, considering that the DC-3 was conceived >and built in the same era as most of my radios. I saw a documentary on the history of flight where the Wright brother who lived the longest (I always forget which one) rode in the co-pilot seat of a DC-3. How far we'd come in such a short time! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340519 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "tony" Subject: help with an obsolete ECG #? Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:41:58 -0500 Message-ID: I posted quite a while ago about trying to repair the Story&Clark organ at our church. It uses now-obsolete flip-flop IC's as the frequency dividers, and there are two kinds, one with 4 legs which are a single FF but most are 6 legs containing 2 FF's. They operate on a 17 volt supply, which precludes a quick modern substitution, even with rewiring. A reader remembered that the single FF ones can be replaced with ECG754, (I looked up the data sheet for this # and verified it is the one) but he could not remember the ECG number for the dual one. Any idea how can I determine that? My 1996 ECG catalog just lists them as obsolete, unavailable, and gives no data. With the number in hand I can try some of the obsolete IC suppliers, but I don't know what to ask for. Article: 340520 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1156456517.244080.71840@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: unwanted bugs and critters.... Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 23:37:03 GMT I don't know, but I heard there are now some killer bees in the Tampa Bay area. From now on I'm gonna roll up the windows on my T-Bird. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Steven" wrote in message news:1156456517.244080.71840@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Jeffrey D Angus wrote: >> Be glad you don't have this problem... >> >> Or this... >> > > So why do those two URLs for different papers. apparently owned by > different COMPANIES... > > look so similar? > > Slightly odd twist for two stories about bizarre infestations that > sound like they were carved by some turkey for holiday cash. > Article: 340521 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Reed Park" References: Subject: Re: help with an obsolete ECG #? Message-ID: <3ZqHg.1155$9u.15673@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 23:52:31 GMT "tony" wrote in message news:ecl9vn$hds$1@news.tamu.edu... >I posted quite a while ago about trying to repair the Story&Clark organ at >our church. It uses now-obsolete flip-flop IC's as the frequency dividers, >and there are two kinds, one with 4 legs which are a single FF but most are >6 legs containing 2 FF's. They operate on a 17 volt supply, which precludes >a quick modern substitution, even with rewiring. > A reader remembered that the single FF ones can be replaced with ECG754, > (I looked up the data sheet for this # and verified it is the one) but he > could not remember the ECG number for the dual one. Any idea how can I > determine that? > > My 1996 ECG catalog just lists them as obsolete, unavailable, and gives no > data. > > With the number in hand I can try some of the obsolete IC suppliers, but I > don't know what to ask for. Can't help you with the dual number, but ECG was bought out by NTE. Usually the part number remained the same. e.g. ECG-754 is now an NTE-754 Regards Reed ----- ARROW Research - (CF-105 Avro Arrow) Reed Park 916 Pre-d'en-Haut Street Memramcook, New Brunswick Canada E4K 1L1 (506)758-3128 - home (506)874-9021 - cell Amateur Radio Station VE1NU Member of the W.S. #19 Group GPS co-ordinates N 45 57.751 W 64 37.497 Article: 340522 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: help with an obsolete ECG #? Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 08:53:39 +0900 Message-ID: References: "tony" wrote in message news:ecl9vn$hds$1@news.tamu.edu... >I posted quite a while ago about trying to repair the Story&Clark organ at >our church. It uses now-obsolete flip-flop IC's as the frequency dividers, >and there are two kinds, one with 4 legs which are a single FF but most are >6 legs containing 2 FF's. They operate on a 17 volt supply, which precludes >a quick modern substitution, even with rewiring. > A reader remembered that the single FF ones can be replaced with ECG754, > (I looked up the data sheet for this # and verified it is the one) but he > could not remember the ECG number for the dual one. Any idea how can I > determine that? > > My 1996 ECG catalog just lists them as obsolete, unavailable, and gives no > data. > > With the number in hand I can try some of the obsolete IC suppliers, but I > don't know what to ask for. > What is the original number? The ECG754 still exists as an NTE754. I can check my current NTE sub database for you if I have the original number. -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! Article: 340523 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Capt Video 2006!" Subject: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:07:37 -0400 Message-ID: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> Looks like the Dell and Apple laptop battery fiasco just might BANKRUPT Sony Corporation, so if your looking for a Sony Shortwave, Scanner or other radio product, you may want to buy it sooner than later.... --> http://tinyurl.com/ltf55 ---> http://www.forbes.com/markets/equities/2006/08/17/sony-update-0817marketscan01.html ---> http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14502021/ ---> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/4139283.html Article: 340524 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave.H" Subject: Operatic Model 45M Date: 24 Aug 2006 17:11:55 -0700 Message-ID: <1156464715.484737.151440@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> I have bought a wooden radio from eBay, and it has arrived today, an Operatic Model 45M. A five valve (tube) radio, it employs 3 full size valves and two miniature. I powered it up and it has power supply hum? and doesn't pick up much stations, although I'm hoping to get the shortwave working. Is it normal for the valves to glow dimly and some have a deposit on the inside of the glass as if blown but they work. I thought they glow bright. The Rola speaker is very good for its age, has faded a bit and a small tear or two, but that don't worry me. The speaker cloth is loose and a bit worn. It also has no back, this worries me as my Burmese cat is very curious and I don't want him fried. Is it a live chassis? It has earth wire coming out of the back, and antenna wire coming out beside that. It has some markings on the undeside of the chassis. See this photo. http://community.webshots.com/photo/553460291/2718889290086933478pNfgkM Written is OK. 17/10/46. I cant make out the writing on the right. Looks like service info, and it was checked over in 1946. This would make it a prewar radio. Has got something that don't look normal non the chassis underside, see this photo http://community.webshots.com/photo/553460291/2201611200086933478uZmAgL Not sure what that is? Sorry for all the questions, this happens to be my first valve radio. View all photos of it here, http://community.webshots.com/album/553460291UOIdSU Article: 340525 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:35:32 -0400 Message-ID: <9chse2dpb48bl2m3h1p5jvoj96hdqgu0h4@4ax.com> References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:07:37 -0400, "Capt Video 2006!" wrote: >Looks like the Dell and Apple laptop battery fiasco >just might BANKRUPT Sony Corporation, so if your >looking for a Sony Shortwave, Scanner or other radio >product, you may want to buy it sooner than later.... > >--> http://tinyurl.com/ltf55 > >---> >http://www.forbes.com/markets/equities/2006/08/17/sony-update-0817marketscan01.html > >---> http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14502021/ > >---> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/4139283.html > Yeah, and they are talking about putting the Li-Ion batteries in hybrid cars in place of the NiMH that is there now. Yikes! Holy flaming Prius, Batman! John Article: 340526 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Engineer" Subject: Re: Mallory book worth having (not mine) Date: 24 Aug 2006 17:28:14 -0700 Message-ID: <1156465694.816222.246950@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: jim menning wrote: > "Engineer" wrote in message > news:1156388615.157277.62540@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > jim menning wrote: > >> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > >> news:VOSdnWLc66KynXDZnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >I use my Mallory 6th ed (1946) a fair bit. This one is 3rd ed, I think its > >> > 1939 or so, so it covers up to that. > >> > gives lots of info on radios, tubes in each, Mallory control replacement, > >> > etc. > >> > > >> > http://cgi.ebay.com/MALLORY-RADIO-SERVICE-ENCYCLOPEDIA-TUBE-CATALOG-VINTAGE_W0QQitemZ260024666655QQihZ016QQcategoryZ7275QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > >> > > >> > Mark Oppat > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> Be aware that it's the Canadian version though. > >> > >> jim menning > > > > Er... are the physics different up here, Jim... or have I missed > > something? > > Cheers, > > Roger > > Thornhill, near Toronto, Canada. > > > > Hopefully we are using the same physics. > > But this is not a physics book, it's a parts replacement guide. The book is a > resource for chassis identification that lists Mallory and Yaxley branded replacement > controls, condensers, and vibrators, but one of it's best features is a way to > identify unknown radios by tube complement. The US 3rd edition has over 200 pages of > radios broken down by manufacturer and model number. Only the back end of the book > is theory and/or service information. > > My guess is the difference between the US and Canadian versions is that the Canadian > book probably lists the Canadian manufacturers as opposed to the US ones. If so, > this book would be good for those who collect Canadian radios, but may have little or > no value to a US collector. If I'm wrong, someone please let us know. > > jim menning Jim, I take your point. Perhaps someone knows the book. Cheers, Roger Article: 340527 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Blacksmith Subject: Looking for a Zenith 835 or 809 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:45:57 -0400 Message-ID: <1vhse2d1iam20kshaiovkg5tlci34b8fp5@4ax.com> A friend of mine is looking for a Zenith 835 or an 809. Anyone have one to sell, or know who has one? Blacksmith wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom Article: 340528 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:51:58 -0700 Message-ID: <_d-dnSKnz7Yo1HPZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com> OT for this newsgroup. Phil Nelson Article: 340529 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <9chse2dpb48bl2m3h1p5jvoj96hdqgu0h4@4ax.com> Message-ID: <1%rHg.107187$FQ1.28880@attbi_s71> Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 01:02:54 GMT Honestly, I doubt that Sony is going to go bankrupt recalling these batteries. Sony has a long and successful history and will make it through this. Sony did make a mistake in its quality control department and is paying for it, literally. In spite of this, Sony is not entirely to blame for the Dell batteries going up in flames. The Forbes article stated that the Dell charging system is of a different design from that used on the Sony VAIO laptops using the SAME batteries. Also, battery sales only account for a small percentage of Sony's operations. In regards to the battery technology itself, lithium-ion and lithium-polymer are the logical next step in rechargeable batteries. Unlike, NiCad and NiMh, Li-Ion batteries don't suffer from memory effect and do not gradually lose power as they discharge. My Sony digital audio player uses a Li-Ion battery that goes about 60 hours between charges. Also, as the battery discharges no loss in playback is experienced. It just keeps on going until it just stops and the device tells me it is time to recharge. If anyone wants to add to this feel free. Bobby KC9IHK John Bachman wrote: > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:07:37 -0400, "Capt Video 2006!" > wrote: > >> Looks like the Dell and Apple laptop battery fiasco >> just might BANKRUPT Sony Corporation, so if your >> looking for a Sony Shortwave, Scanner or other radio >> product, you may want to buy it sooner than later.... >> >> --> http://tinyurl.com/ltf55 >> >> ---> >> http://www.forbes.com/markets/equities/2006/08/17/sony-update-0817marketscan01.html >> >> ---> http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14502021/ >> >> ---> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/4139283.html >> > > Yeah, and they are talking about putting the Li-Ion batteries in > hybrid cars in place of the NiMH that is there now. Yikes! > > Holy flaming Prius, Batman! > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Article: 340530 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <6bKdnaSGG64ziXfZnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1156192505.893448.218510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156357488.304471.74490@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Scott Beam of Light Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:16:01 -0400 Message-ID: <89CdnVobor_203PZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> same with most Philco pre 1939 radios. The dial light creates the beam of focused light as a pointer. (shameless plug dept) ...That is why my repro dials are so much better than any others... mine pass the light right thru like the originals. www.oldradioparts.net Mark Oppat "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:NPOdnfKhGb2LgnPZnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@sigecom.net... > My postwar Capehart 414N uses a light beam to indicate where you were on the > dial. There is a projector with a slit in it that backlights the glass dial. > Pretty cool. for some reason it reminds me of Gort with the visor up. :-) > Bruce > > > Article: 340531 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Operatic Model 45M References: <1156464715.484737.151440@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <09sHg.6886$Tl4.1817@dukeread06> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:13:07 -0400 Be sure to change the electrolytic caps out, they can ruin the transformer. All the other caps should be changed also before you run it. That thingy under the chassis is a trimmer, a variable capacitor, used for tuning. Ken Dave.H wrote: > I have bought a wooden radio from eBay, and it has arrived today, an > Operatic Model 45M. A five valve (tube) radio, it employs 3 full size > valves and two miniature. I powered it up and it has power supply hum? > and doesn't pick up much stations, although I'm hoping to get the > shortwave working. Is it normal for the valves to glow dimly and some > have a deposit on the inside of the glass as if blown but they work. I > thought they glow bright. The Rola speaker is very good for its age, > has faded a bit and a small tear or two, but that don't worry me. The > speaker cloth is loose and a bit worn. It also has no back, this > worries me as my Burmese cat is very curious and I don't want him > fried. Is it a live chassis? It has earth wire coming out of the back, > and antenna wire coming out beside that. It has some markings on the > undeside of the chassis. See this photo. > http://community.webshots.com/photo/553460291/2718889290086933478pNfgkM > Written is OK. 17/10/46. I cant make out the writing on the right. > Looks like service info, and it was checked over in 1946. This would > make it a prewar radio. Has got something that don't look normal non > the chassis underside, see this photo > http://community.webshots.com/photo/553460291/2201611200086933478uZmAgL > > Not sure what that is? > > Sorry for all the questions, this happens to be my first valve radio. > > View all photos of it here, > http://community.webshots.com/album/553460291UOIdSU > Article: 340532 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: 24 Aug 2006 18:19:32 -0700 Message-ID: <1156468772.022734.144660@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> Robert Sherrod wrote: > Honestly, I doubt that Sony is going to go bankrupt recalling these > batteries. Sony has a long and successful history and will make it > through this. Sony did make a mistake in its quality control department > and is paying for it, literally. In spite of this, Sony is not entirely > to blame for the Dell batteries going up in flames. The Forbes article > stated that the Dell charging system is of a different design from that > used on the Sony VAIO laptops using the SAME batteries. Also, battery > sales only account for a small percentage of Sony's operations. > > In regards to the battery technology itself, lithium-ion and > lithium-polymer are the logical next step in rechargeable batteries. > Unlike, NiCad and NiMh, Li-Ion batteries don't suffer from memory effect > and do not gradually lose power as they discharge. My Sony digital > audio player uses a Li-Ion battery that goes about 60 hours between > charges. Also, as the battery discharges no loss in playback is > experienced. It just keeps on going until it just stops and the device > tells me it is time to recharge. > > If anyone wants to add to this feel free. > > Bobby > KC9IHK Sanyo lost it's main semiconductor in an earthquake two years or so back and there were a lot of stories about them being able to float--so far they seem to have survived. The OP is an uninformed, insightless speculative rumormonger and was that an eBay auction or a website tied to him? Sony Corporation is a multinational megalith that has it's technologies into so many fields that it's really hard to die for a battery that might cost less than a CD boombox to make. The real culprit is the MISapplication of the technology. You might not realize there are lithium batteries (the plain kind) in calculators, watches, cameras, smoke alarms...all devices that don't draw nearly as much current as a laptop, and don't need the shielding etc NOT provided properly that is overheating the lithium ion batteries in the first place. Having them near magnetic fields is also possibly doing it, maybe those kiddy powered cars too IIRC. You'd be surprised how many other manufacturers parts are sourced from Sony. For shame. Article: 340533 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: 24 Aug 2006 18:25:55 -0700 Message-ID: <1156469155.328423.180710@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> Phil Nelson wrote: > OT for this newsgroup. > > Phil Nelson Hey boatanchor cats! Neither a 2.9% drop in stock price over a day nor a 50-75 million USD recall are going to bother Sony. They use it to wipe in the factory restroom every day. Don't be so retarded and get out of Dodge? Article: 340534 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bonchakrs@aol.com Subject: Re: MY WEBSITE MAY NOW BE ACCESSED AS "DIALCOVER.COM" Date: 24 Aug 2006 18:37:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1156469864.844799.215260@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <17633-44EE05F7-233@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> Bill Turner wrote: > BEFORE IT WAS NECESSARY TO ADDRESS IT AS "WWW.DIALCOVER@COM" > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 340535 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bonchakrs@aol.com Subject: Re: MY WEBSITE MAY NOW BE ACCESSED AS "DIALCOVER.COM" Date: 24 Aug 2006 18:40:04 -0700 Message-ID: <1156470004.820237.12430@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <17633-44EE05F7-233@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> Bill Turner wrote: > BEFORE IT WAS NECESSARY TO ADDRESS IT AS "WWW.DIALCOVER@COM" > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Bill: Glad to see you are still offering valuable products to the hobby. Keep up the good work, and stay well. BOB Article: 340536 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: unwanted bugs and critters.... Date: 24 Aug 2006 18:58:40 -0700 Message-ID: <1156471120.804465.279390@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Gary Tayman wrote: > I don't know, but I heard there are now some killer bees in the Tampa Bay > area. From now on I'm gonna roll up the windows on my T-Bird. Africanized bees are not THAT crazed, just innately much more aggressive when threatened. Try not to hit a hive and you are probably 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999955% fine. PS I'm sure Tampa is doing something about that. The rumor too. Article: 340537 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Noble" References: Subject: Re: help with an obsolete ECG #? Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:03:12 -0700 Message-ID: <44ee4d3f$0$8815$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> it doesn't take too many discretes to make a flip flop - why not use a couple of transistors and make one up? Alternatively, you can use CMOS or TTL and drop the voltage down with a divider and then pull it back up with a npn or pnp output stage as appropriate "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:ecle02$grc$1@news2.kornet.net... > > > "tony" wrote in message > news:ecl9vn$hds$1@news.tamu.edu... >>I posted quite a while ago about trying to repair the Story&Clark organ at >>our church. It uses now-obsolete flip-flop IC's as the frequency dividers, >>and there are two kinds, one with 4 legs which are a single FF but most >>are 6 legs containing 2 FF's. They operate on a 17 volt supply, which >>precludes a quick modern substitution, even with rewiring. >> A reader remembered that the single FF ones can be replaced with ECG754, >> (I looked up the data sheet for this # and verified it is the one) but he >> could not remember the ECG number for the dual one. Any idea how can I >> determine that? >> >> My 1996 ECG catalog just lists them as obsolete, unavailable, and gives >> no data. >> >> With the number in hand I can try some of the obsolete IC suppliers, but >> I don't know what to ask for. >> > > What is the original number? The ECG754 still exists as an NTE754. I can > check my current NTE sub database for you if I have the original number. > > -- > Say no to institutionalized interference. > Just say NO to HD/IBOC! > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 340538 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44EE5AF6.3080309@swbell.net> From: patrick jankowiak Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 02:05:32 GMT David wrote: > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:07:37 -0400, "Capt Video 2006!" > wrote: > > >>Looks like the Dell and Apple laptop battery fiasco >>just might BANKRUPT Sony Corporation, so if your >>looking for a Sony Shortwave, Scanner or other radio >>product, you may want to buy it sooner than later.... >> >>--> http://tinyurl.com/ltf55 >> >>---> >>http://www.forbes.com/markets/equities/2006/08/17/sony-update-0817marketscan01.html >> >>---> http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14502021/ >> >>---> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/4139283.html >> > > Good riddance. In the past, the company did very well, even though the products and service were costly they were of the highest quality. Once the founder, Mr. Morita, passed away, the company became very poorly managed -left to bean counters and lawyers who had no concept of the value of a tradition of quality products or service. They made sweeping changes they would not have dared to make while Morita-San was alive. Parts in machines that had previously been cast or machined became stamped. Machined brass or aluminum bosses holding mechanism guides and supports to a mechanism baseplate became molded-in nylon strips and thin sheets with little threaded and even -perish the though- press-fit bosses on them. Yes, press-fit metal into nylon. Service quality also became secondary to profit. That is, the service organization was no longer permitted to break even in order to provide high value service, and the profit-center model they implemented caused the quality of service to drop severely, even as they raised the hourly rate to $150 (broadcast) and cheaply hired inexperienced technicians right out of a 2-year course DeVry to work on broadcast video gear. People I would not let loose on a CD palyer. Their excuse was "hire from a diverse pool" but in reality that was not done. We called them 20-20's because they were 20 years old and made $20K/Yr -and they really had no concept of the fundamental theory behind most of the equipment they worked on. I mean these guys could not tell you the difference between a balanced and unbalanced signal, or why it was important. Service center managers expected us 'old' guys to train them, but the immaturity, laziness, and impatience of such folk won out as time and time again the rework would come back. Customers would say that Sony service was becoming no better than Panasonic's, a huge insult previously, but it became close to the truth. The profit sharing plan dried up as the hungry new 'hollywood' branch of the company, a gigantic business error, sucked up money faster than a new york coke prostitue. They were paying Michael Jackson's salary for a while too. It was a mess, and the spiral to destruction was not slow, and is probably now irreversible. I left Sony when they decided to consolidate alll service to one location and they offered me the "opportunity" to move to Norcross GA (Atlanta) and work in a 24-hour sweatshop, er.. hot-seat repair center. In the current center, I was in charge of a 12x30 area with three 7' racks, a desk, computer, phone, and workbench, with maybe $250K worh of test gear, and that is where I did my repairs. I worked on high end NTSC and HDTV digital broadcast and production products. Nothing I worked on cost less than $5000 and most of it was in the 20K range. That was the level of responsibility. The new place would have me coming in to a seat still warm from someone's butt every morning, sharing a drawer full of possibly nasty hand tools and maybe some potato chip crumbs, in a short workbench with no desk, no racks and only a couple pieces of test gear, working on cheap VHS or 8mm video tape recorders with two other people, and no computer or phone, all assholes and elbows, butts to nuts with 300 other people in the huge room, the hillbilly boss staring down from his loft on the second floor, deciding which slave to beat. (we sent spies in ahead to check on this) That is what they did to the service department and it is why Sony service sucks now and why the products are not what they were. I could go on, but there's no point. I think that was the best thing that Sony ever did for us experienced people, shutting down the regional service centers. Really gave our carreers a boost when we changed Jobs. Sony on your resume used to mean something then. I wonder if it does now? Article: 340539 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <9chse2dpb48bl2m3h1p5jvoj96hdqgu0h4@4ax.com> <1%rHg.107187$FQ1.28880@attbi_s71> <1156468772.022734.144660@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 02:16:01 GMT Steven wrote: > Robert Sherrod wrote: >> Honestly, I doubt that Sony is going to go bankrupt recalling these >> batteries. Sony has a long and successful history and will make it >> through this. Sony did make a mistake in its quality control department >> and is paying for it, literally. In spite of this, Sony is not entirely >> to blame for the Dell batteries going up in flames. The Forbes article >> stated that the Dell charging system is of a different design from that >> used on the Sony VAIO laptops using the SAME batteries. Also, battery >> sales only account for a small percentage of Sony's operations. >> >> In regards to the battery technology itself, lithium-ion and >> lithium-polymer are the logical next step in rechargeable batteries. >> Unlike, NiCad and NiMh, Li-Ion batteries don't suffer from memory effect >> and do not gradually lose power as they discharge. My Sony digital >> audio player uses a Li-Ion battery that goes about 60 hours between >> charges. Also, as the battery discharges no loss in playback is >> experienced. It just keeps on going until it just stops and the device >> tells me it is time to recharge. >> >> If anyone wants to add to this feel free. >> >> Bobby >> KC9IHK > > Sanyo lost it's main semiconductor in an earthquake two years or so > back and there were a lot of stories about them being able to float--so > far they seem to have survived. The OP is an uninformed, insightless > speculative rumormonger and was that an eBay auction or a website tied > to him? > > Sony Corporation is a multinational megalith that has it's technologies > into so many fields that it's really hard to die for a battery that > might cost less than a CD boombox to make. The real culprit is the > MISapplication of the technology. You might not realize there are > lithium batteries (the plain kind) in calculators, watches, cameras, > smoke alarms...all devices that don't draw nearly as much current as a > laptop, and don't need the shielding etc NOT provided properly that is > overheating the lithium ion batteries in the first place. Having them > near magnetic fields is also possibly doing it, maybe those kiddy > powered cars too IIRC. > > You'd be surprised how many other manufacturers parts are sourced from > Sony. For shame. > Lithium and Lithium-Ion batteries are two different technologies and the problems with the laptop batteries have nothing to do with shield or current draw. Lithium-Ion batteries are more than capable of handling the current draw of a laptop. Hell, Milwaukee tools, makers of the best power tools on the market, now has 18V and 28V cordless tools based on Li-Ion. The problem was a metal particulate impurity contaminated the materials that make up the battery and were apparently enough to damage the insulation surrounding the battery, causing a short. Also, Sony is one of the best electronics companies around. They have a very interesting history. Read it on Sony's corporate site http://tinyurl.com/hly22. Sony (Tokyo Tsushin Kyogo, or Totsuko at the time) designed and built their own transistor manufacturing equipment once they received a license to do so from Western Electric. They designed the first Japanese transistor radio to be exported, the TR-63, which was branded "Sony". Due to the success of the radio, Totsuko changed their name to Sony Corporation in January 1958. The list goes on of successful product introductions that make Sony a great company. I have many Sony products and have been very satisfied with their quality and this little incident will not change my mind. Bobby KC9IHK Article: 340540 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Blacksmith Subject: Re: Mallory book worth having (not mine) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:19:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 01:33:19 GMT, "jim menning" wrote: > >"Mark Oppat" wrote in message >news:VOSdnWLc66KynXDZnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>I use my Mallory 6th ed (1946) a fair bit. This one is 3rd ed, I think its >> 1939 or so, so it covers up to that. >> gives lots of info on radios, tubes in each, Mallory control replacement, >> etc. >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/MALLORY-RADIO-SERVICE-ENCYCLOPEDIA-TUBE-CATALOG-VINTAGE_W0QQitemZ260024666655QQihZ016QQcategoryZ7275QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >> >> Mark Oppat >> >> >> > >Be aware that it's the Canadian version though. > >jim menning > I have the 5th. edition available on CD at www.renovatedradios.com Blacksmith wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom Article: 340541 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: 24 Aug 2006 19:22:02 -0700 Message-ID: <1156472522.709402.153950@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> Robert Sherrod wrote: > Steven wrote: > > Robert Sherrod wrote: > >> Honestly, I doubt that Sony is going to go bankrupt recalling these > >> batteries. Sony has a long and successful history and will make it > >> through this. Sony did make a mistake in its quality control department > >> and is paying for it, literally. In spite of this, Sony is not entirely > >> to blame for the Dell batteries going up in flames. The Forbes article > >> stated that the Dell charging system is of a different design from that > >> used on the Sony VAIO laptops using the SAME batteries. Also, battery > >> sales only account for a small percentage of Sony's operations. > >> > >> In regards to the battery technology itself, lithium-ion and > >> lithium-polymer are the logical next step in rechargeable batteries. > >> Unlike, NiCad and NiMh, Li-Ion batteries don't suffer from memory effect > >> and do not gradually lose power as they discharge. My Sony digital > >> audio player uses a Li-Ion battery that goes about 60 hours between > >> charges. Also, as the battery discharges no loss in playback is > >> experienced. It just keeps on going until it just stops and the device > >> tells me it is time to recharge. > >> > >> If anyone wants to add to this feel free. > >> > >> Bobby > >> KC9IHK > > > > Sanyo lost it's main semiconductor in an earthquake two years or so > > back and there were a lot of stories about them being able to float--so > > far they seem to have survived. The OP is an uninformed, insightless > > speculative rumormonger and was that an eBay auction or a website tied > > to him? > > > > Sony Corporation is a multinational megalith that has it's technologies > > into so many fields that it's really hard to die for a battery that > > might cost less than a CD boombox to make. The real culprit is the > > MISapplication of the technology. You might not realize there are > > lithium batteries (the plain kind) in calculators, watches, cameras, > > smoke alarms...all devices that don't draw nearly as much current as a > > laptop, and don't need the shielding etc NOT provided properly that is > > overheating the lithium ion batteries in the first place. Having them > > near magnetic fields is also possibly doing it, maybe those kiddy > > powered cars too IIRC. > > > > You'd be surprised how many other manufacturers parts are sourced from > > Sony. For shame. > > > Lithium and Lithium-Ion batteries are two different technologies and the > problems with the laptop batteries have nothing to do with shield or > current draw. Lithium-Ion batteries are more than capable of handling > the current draw of a laptop. Hell, Milwaukee tools, makers of the best > power tools on the market, now has 18V and 28V cordless tools based on > Li-Ion. The problem was a metal particulate impurity contaminated the > materials that make up the battery and were apparently enough to damage > the insulation surrounding the battery, causing a short. > > Also, Sony is one of the best electronics companies around. They have a > very interesting history. Read it on Sony's corporate site > http://tinyurl.com/hly22. Sony (Tokyo Tsushin Kyogo, or Totsuko at the > time) designed and built their own transistor manufacturing equipment > once they received a license to do so from Western Electric. They > designed the first Japanese transistor radio to be exported, the TR-63, > which was branded "Sony". Due to the success of the radio, Totsuko > changed their name to Sony Corporation in January 1958. The list goes on > of successful product introductions that make Sony a great company. > > I have many Sony products and have been very satisfied with their > quality and this little incident will not change my mind. > > Bobby > KC9IHK I sent what three groups Google would post to a reply that we don't care and left RAR+P out. Two of them must have something against an ICF?-2010...more fun, hell yeah, we need that. Article: 340542 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: help with an obsolete ECG #? Date: 25 Aug 2006 02:38:46 GMT Message-ID: References: "tony" (jhill@tarleton.edu) writes: > I posted quite a while ago about trying to repair the Story&Clark organ at > our church. It uses now-obsolete flip-flop IC's as the frequency dividers, > and there are two kinds, one with 4 legs which are a single FF but most are > 6 legs containing 2 FF's. They operate on a 17 volt supply, which precludes > a quick modern substitution, even with rewiring. > A reader remembered that the single FF ones can be replaced with ECG754, > (I looked up the data sheet for this # and verified it is the one) but he > could not remember the ECG number for the dual one. Any idea how can I > determine that? > > My 1996 ECG catalog just lists them as obsolete, unavailable, and gives no > data. > > With the number in hand I can try some of the obsolete IC suppliers, but I > don't know what to ask for. > > Are we talking about the MFC6040 for the single flip-flop, in a 206A case, and the MFC6020 or MFC6050 for the dual flip-flp, in a 643A case? Those were weird cases, and I think Motorola was the only one to use them. On the other hand, they probably saved something in manufacturing costs by making the packages fit the needed pins for a given IC. Oddly, or maybe not, the 1974 Semiconductor Data Library reference volume has only a line for each, and doesn't say anything about what type of logic it uses. Michael Article: 340543 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: pgonshor@aol.com Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: 24 Aug 2006 19:45:02 -0700 Message-ID: <1156473902.385455.194790@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> "Hell, Milwaukee tools, makers of the best power tools on the market... " Yea, I was a victim of the best power tools on the market. My expensive Milwaukee lost both of it's battery packs after only a few months. Cost to replace? $80 each. The great Milwaukee went in the trash can. I bought a nice corded drill for half the cost of one crappy Milwaukee battery. Dave Robert Sherrod wrote: > Steven wrote: > > Robert Sherrod wrote: > >> Honestly, I doubt that Sony is going to go bankrupt recalling these > >> batteries. Sony has a long and successful history and will make it > >> through this. Sony did make a mistake in its quality control department > >> and is paying for it, literally. In spite of this, Sony is not entirely > >> to blame for the Dell batteries going up in flames. The Forbes article > >> stated that the Dell charging system is of a different design from that > >> used on the Sony VAIO laptops using the SAME batteries. Also, battery > >> sales only account for a small percentage of Sony's operations. > >> > >> In regards to the battery technology itself, lithium-ion and > >> lithium-polymer are the logical next step in rechargeable batteries. > >> Unlike, NiCad and NiMh, Li-Ion batteries don't suffer from memory effect > >> and do not gradually lose power as they discharge. My Sony digital > >> audio player uses a Li-Ion battery that goes about 60 hours between > >> charges. Also, as the battery discharges no loss in playback is > >> experienced. It just keeps on going until it just stops and the device > >> tells me it is time to recharge. > >> > >> If anyone wants to add to this feel free. > >> > >> Bobby > >> KC9IHK > > > > Sanyo lost it's main semiconductor in an earthquake two years or so > > back and there were a lot of stories about them being able to float--so > > far they seem to have survived. The OP is an uninformed, insightless > > speculative rumormonger and was that an eBay auction or a website tied > > to him? > > > > Sony Corporation is a multinational megalith that has it's technologies > > into so many fields that it's really hard to die for a battery that > > might cost less than a CD boombox to make. The real culprit is the > > MISapplication of the technology. You might not realize there are > > lithium batteries (the plain kind) in calculators, watches, cameras, > > smoke alarms...all devices that don't draw nearly as much current as a > > laptop, and don't need the shielding etc NOT provided properly that is > > overheating the lithium ion batteries in the first place. Having them > > near magnetic fields is also possibly doing it, maybe those kiddy > > powered cars too IIRC. > > > > You'd be surprised how many other manufacturers parts are sourced from > > Sony. For shame. > > > Lithium and Lithium-Ion batteries are two different technologies and the > problems with the laptop batteries have nothing to do with shield or > current draw. Lithium-Ion batteries are more than capable of handling > the current draw of a laptop. Hell, Milwaukee tools, makers of the best > power tools on the market, now has 18V and 28V cordless tools based on > Li-Ion. The problem was a metal particulate impurity contaminated the > materials that make up the battery and were apparently enough to damage > the insulation surrounding the battery, causing a short. > > Also, Sony is one of the best electronics companies around. They have a > very interesting history. Read it on Sony's corporate site > http://tinyurl.com/hly22. Sony (Tokyo Tsushin Kyogo, or Totsuko at the > time) designed and built their own transistor manufacturing equipment > once they received a license to do so from Western Electric. They > designed the first Japanese transistor radio to be exported, the TR-63, > which was branded "Sony". Due to the success of the radio, Totsuko > changed their name to Sony Corporation in January 1958. The list goes on > of successful product introductions that make Sony a great company. > > I have many Sony products and have been very satisfied with their > quality and this little incident will not change my mind. > > Bobby > KC9IHK Article: 340544 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <9chse2dpb48bl2m3h1p5jvoj96hdqgu0h4@4ax.com> <1%rHg.107187$FQ1.28880@attbi_s71> <1156468772.022734.144660@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156473902.385455.194790@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 02:58:25 GMT Well, one reason could be abuse of the cells in the packs. Most people abuse the batteries without even knowing it. NiMH and NiCd batteries heat up during use and charging. For optimum life, the batteries should be allowed to cool for about 1 hour after each use before being recharged. They should also be allowed to cool after charging for the same amount of time before using. Not doing this stresses the batteries and causes premature failure of the cells. Li-Ion cells do not have this problem and also have twice the life and more power than the current standard, NiMh. I'm sorry to hear that you had such a bad experience with Milwaukee. They do make the best corded tools available and I have one of their drills, a model that has remained on the market for over 30 years. I'd say that says something about Milwaukee. Bobby KC9IHK pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > "Hell, Milwaukee tools, makers of the best power tools on the market... > " > Yea, I was a victim of the best power tools on the market. My > expensive Milwaukee lost both of it's battery packs after only a few > months. Cost to replace? $80 each. The great Milwaukee went in the > trash can. I bought a nice corded drill for half the cost of one > crappy Milwaukee battery. > > Dave > Robert Sherrod wrote: >> Steven wrote: >>> Robert Sherrod wrote: >>>> Honestly, I doubt that Sony is going to go bankrupt recalling these >>>> batteries. Sony has a long and successful history and will make it >>>> through this. Sony did make a mistake in its quality control department >>>> and is paying for it, literally. In spite of this, Sony is not entirely >>>> to blame for the Dell batteries going up in flames. The Forbes article >>>> stated that the Dell charging system is of a different design from that >>>> used on the Sony VAIO laptops using the SAME batteries. Also, battery >>>> sales only account for a small percentage of Sony's operations. >>>> >>>> In regards to the battery technology itself, lithium-ion and >>>> lithium-polymer are the logical next step in rechargeable batteries. >>>> Unlike, NiCad and NiMh, Li-Ion batteries don't suffer from memory effect >>>> and do not gradually lose power as they discharge. My Sony digital >>>> audio player uses a Li-Ion battery that goes about 60 hours between >>>> charges. Also, as the battery discharges no loss in playback is >>>> experienced. It just keeps on going until it just stops and the device >>>> tells me it is time to recharge. >>>> >>>> If anyone wants to add to this feel free. >>>> >>>> Bobby >>>> KC9IHK >>> Sanyo lost it's main semiconductor in an earthquake two years or so >>> back and there were a lot of stories about them being able to float--so >>> far they seem to have survived. The OP is an uninformed, insightless >>> speculative rumormonger and was that an eBay auction or a website tied >>> to him? >>> >>> Sony Corporation is a multinational megalith that has it's technologies >>> into so many fields that it's really hard to die for a battery that >>> might cost less than a CD boombox to make. The real culprit is the >>> MISapplication of the technology. You might not realize there are >>> lithium batteries (the plain kind) in calculators, watches, cameras, >>> smoke alarms...all devices that don't draw nearly as much current as a >>> laptop, and don't need the shielding etc NOT provided properly that is >>> overheating the lithium ion batteries in the first place. Having them >>> near magnetic fields is also possibly doing it, maybe those kiddy >>> powered cars too IIRC. >>> >>> You'd be surprised how many other manufacturers parts are sourced from >>> Sony. For shame. >>> >> Lithium and Lithium-Ion batteries are two different technologies and the >> problems with the laptop batteries have nothing to do with shield or >> current draw. Lithium-Ion batteries are more than capable of handling >> the current draw of a laptop. Hell, Milwaukee tools, makers of the best >> power tools on the market, now has 18V and 28V cordless tools based on >> Li-Ion. The problem was a metal particulate impurity contaminated the >> materials that make up the battery and were apparently enough to damage >> the insulation surrounding the battery, causing a short. >> >> Also, Sony is one of the best electronics companies around. They have a >> very interesting history. Read it on Sony's corporate site >> http://tinyurl.com/hly22. Sony (Tokyo Tsushin Kyogo, or Totsuko at the >> time) designed and built their own transistor manufacturing equipment >> once they received a license to do so from Western Electric. They >> designed the first Japanese transistor radio to be exported, the TR-63, >> which was branded "Sony". Due to the success of the radio, Totsuko >> changed their name to Sony Corporation in January 1958. The list goes on >> of successful product introductions that make Sony a great company. >> >> I have many Sony products and have been very satisfied with their >> quality and this little incident will not change my mind. >> >> Bobby >> KC9IHK > Article: 340545 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Noble" References: <1156340416.910462.283150@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mystery Turntable Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:04:57 -0700 Message-ID: <44ee5bb9$0$8835$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> I like that TT design - what a great way to get infinitely variable speed without any control electronics - just "lovely" to use the vernacular of the time. The gold color is probably your hint for the maker, it looks familar, but I don't remember what mfgr I associate it with - you could try posting on some of the audio groups also "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1156340416.910462.283150@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > John Smith wrote: > >> If anyone has one I need a photo of the missing bit if possible. >> > > No clue, but only the Brits would mount the motor at right-angles to > the TT rotation. My guess is that the brass flanged wheel had a rubber > tire (tyre) on it that ran against the TT. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 340546 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <9chse2dpb48bl2m3h1p5jvoj96hdqgu0h4@4ax.com> <1%rHg.107187$FQ1.28880@attbi_s71> <1156468772.022734.144660@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 04:05:12 GMT Hi! > Also, Sony is one of the best electronics companies around. They have a > very interesting history. Indeed. I've got at least two Sony TV sets...one from the early 80s and the other from the mid-70s. Both work flawlessly and have never given any trouble. They both still have excellent pictures. I have my doubts that this battery issue will bother them much financially. What I wonder about is a combination of factors...this recent battery fiasco paired with the also-recent rootkit-on-an-audio-CD mess...causing problems. I purchased one of those audio CDs. Thankfully, I had no interest whatsoever in using the disc in a PC and my Mac ripped it to MP3 like nothing was special about it. The whole controversy about that almost outweighed my positive experiences with Sony products... My Dell laptop's two primary batteries are made by Panasonic and Sanyo. The secondary drive bay battery, however, is a Sony battery. It's never given any trouble (and is a slightly different Lithium Ion Polymer chemistry) but I wonder... William Article: 340547 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:23:06 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <9chse2dpb48bl2m3h1p5jvoj96hdqgu0h4@4ax.com> <1%rHg.107187$FQ1.28880@attbi_s71> <1156468772.022734.144660@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Robert Sherrod wrote: > > > Steven wrote: >> Robert Sherrod wrote: >>> Honestly, I doubt that Sony is going to go bankrupt recalling these >>> batteries. Sony has a long and successful history and will make it >>> through this. Sony did make a mistake in its quality control department >>> and is paying for it, literally. In spite of this, Sony is not entirely >>> to blame for the Dell batteries going up in flames. The Forbes article >>> stated that the Dell charging system is of a different design from that >>> used on the Sony VAIO laptops using the SAME batteries. Also, battery >>> sales only account for a small percentage of Sony's operations. >>> >>> In regards to the battery technology itself, lithium-ion and >>> lithium-polymer are the logical next step in rechargeable batteries. >>> Unlike, NiCad and NiMh, Li-Ion batteries don't suffer from memory effect >>> and do not gradually lose power as they discharge. My Sony digital >>> audio player uses a Li-Ion battery that goes about 60 hours between >>> charges. Also, as the battery discharges no loss in playback is >>> experienced. It just keeps on going until it just stops and the device >>> tells me it is time to recharge. >>> >>> If anyone wants to add to this feel free. >>> >>> Bobby >>> KC9IHK >> >> Sanyo lost it's main semiconductor in an earthquake two years or so >> back and there were a lot of stories about them being able to float--so >> far they seem to have survived. The OP is an uninformed, insightless >> speculative rumormonger and was that an eBay auction or a website tied >> to him? >> >> Sony Corporation is a multinational megalith that has it's technologies >> into so many fields that it's really hard to die for a battery that >> might cost less than a CD boombox to make. The real culprit is the >> MISapplication of the technology. You might not realize there are >> lithium batteries (the plain kind) in calculators, watches, cameras, >> smoke alarms...all devices that don't draw nearly as much current as a >> laptop, and don't need the shielding etc NOT provided properly that is >> overheating the lithium ion batteries in the first place. Having them >> near magnetic fields is also possibly doing it, maybe those kiddy >> powered cars too IIRC. >> >> You'd be surprised how many other manufacturers parts are sourced from >> Sony. For shame. >> > Lithium and Lithium-Ion batteries are two different technologies and the > problems with the laptop batteries have nothing to do with shield or > current draw. Lithium-Ion batteries are more than capable of handling > the current draw of a laptop. Hell, Milwaukee tools, makers of the best > power tools on the market, now has 18V and 28V cordless tools based on > Li-Ion. The problem was a metal particulate impurity contaminated the > materials that make up the battery and were apparently enough to damage > the insulation surrounding the battery, causing a short. > > Also, Sony is one of the best electronics companies around. They have a > very interesting history. Read it on Sony's corporate site > http://tinyurl.com/hly22. Sony (Tokyo Tsushin Kyogo, or Totsuko at the > time) designed and built their own transistor manufacturing equipment > once they received a license to do so from Western Electric. They > designed the first Japanese transistor radio to be exported, the TR-63, > which was branded "Sony". Due to the success of the radio, Totsuko > changed their name to Sony Corporation in January 1958. The list goes on > of successful product introductions that make Sony a great company. > > I have many Sony products and have been very satisfied with their > quality and this little incident will not change my mind. > Although I like sony's products in general (and their shortwave radios and digital cameras are particularly superb), they do seem to have a bad luck streak with laptops. I remember back in the early 1990s, Apple began marketing their first notebook computers. All of the first generation of these units was manufactured by apple except for the lowest-end model, The powerbook 100, which Apple commissioned Sony to manufacture in Japan. I remember when the Apple corporate rep showed us the insides of one of these-it was superbly manufactured, with nary a millimeter of wasted space inside. There was only one problem-It had a tendency to overheat and some reportedly began smoking while in use. The problem was related to the charging circuitry for the built-in battery. Apple did not offer a fix for the problem, opting instead to recall the entire production of 100s and offering those who had already purchased one a very good deal on the next model up. Sony's laptops look great-super thin, lightweight, and slick-but in terms of performance, reliability and serviceability, they are lousy. Sony seems to have forgotten that people buy these things to do useful work, not as fashion statements. -Scott Article: 340548 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil B" References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <_d-dnSKnz7Yo1HPZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com> Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 05:21:34 GMT Yep. OT, but I can't resist posting this link: http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32550 I like the part that says "... we'd suggest you avoid actually using a laptop on your lap. Ouch." Phil BE "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:_d-dnSKnz7Yo1HPZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com... > OT for this newsgroup. > > Phil Nelson > > Article: 340549 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave.H" Subject: Re: Operatic Model 45M Date: 24 Aug 2006 22:38:23 -0700 Message-ID: <1156484303.794648.124230@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1156464715.484737.151440@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> What is electrolytic caps? Where can I get these from, I live in Shellharbour New South Wales. And this trimmer thing, should I leave that in? The radio plays, but has a loud hum. Would it hurt if I left the whole thing the way it is? I probably wouldnt use it everyday. Also what type of shortwave antenna would I need? I don't want a longwire. Article: 340550 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <_d-dnSKnz7Yo1HPZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com> Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:52:08 -0700 Message-ID: My older son and my wife's best friend both bought top-end Dell laptops during the months in question. We checked the batteries and they weren't in the recall group. Everything working fine. Snore . . . . Sitting next to my computer as I type is the Sony KV-1311CR monitor that I have used daily since purchase in the early 1980s. It's what I use to watch satellite TV in the office. So -- anybody want to discuss antique radios or phonos? We welcome your ideas on those RELEVANT topics. Regards, Phil Nelson Article: 340551 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Help with open reel playback (slightly OT?) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:34:45 -0700 Message-ID: References: dave wrote: > Hello, > > I am not sure if this is a good forum for this inquiry, or if one exists, > but here goes: > > I am trying to play back a very old open-reel tape recording for a friend of > mine. It has some home recordings of deceased family members, etc. So > basically I am trying to do audio archiving for him. I own several old open > reel machines which generally have not seen much use to this point and I am > certainly no expert on the format. > > The problem I am having is that the audio in the track/tracks where the > voices are recorded has a severe 60 Hz hum over top of it. The hum is very > even in amplitude and is so strong that it sounds like it is modulating the > fairly faint voices underneath. I am recording to my computer and have > tried filtering the hum out with software but the audio is still garbled > from the strong 60 Hz signal. I am thinking that the head on the machine > that was used to record these voice tracks was aligned a little off to one > side or something like that and that I might be able to get a much cleaner > take if I were able to move the head on one of my machines to align better > with the track. I am not talking about azimuth angle but actual side to > side alignment. I am not sure if this even makes sense but it is the only > thing I could think of. If anybody has a better idea on this topic, I would > be most appreciative hearing from you. First of all, you must make sure your playback deck is as perfect as you can make it. Are you SURE the hum is not caused by some fault in the deck or cables? Turn on the machine and operate it without a tape while recording to the destination device....Is the hum still there? Is the track arrangement the same as the deck the tape was originally recorded on? (Early machines used a different ordering of the tracks than later ones). Your suspicions about the head alignment may be valid as well, an awful lot of these decks were less than spot-on in that regard. If you eventually determine for sure that the tape IS where the problem lies, then the most viable solution is to transfer the tape to a computer and do digital noise reduction on the resulting audio file. This requires you to get well acquainted with a good computer audio program. Record it in 32-bit initially (not 16-bit), it will give you finer amplitude granularity to play around with as you process the audio. You will need to sample a bit of the noise without speech and use that as your baseline for noise. The noise will most likely need to be reduced a little at a time in several passes. (If you try to do it all in one pass you will probably get background noise that sounds like clinking wine glasses in the background). Try bumping up the amplitude as well. Keep at it and try whatever filters that exist in the audio program you are using. Eventually you should be able to recover intelligible audio >from the tape and transfer it to CD. Above all, don't give up hope. The advent of digital signal processing software over the last few years has been nothing short of revolutionary. Years ago I had a tape of a once in a lifetime event that was truly hopeless...What was recorded was buried in hiss, hum and background noise from HVAC equipment. I gave it to a recording engineer who had access to analog equipment that was state-of-the-art at the time, and he couldn't do much with it. Fast forward maybe 15 years later. I recorded the same tape into my computer, and used a demo version of a popular Audio manipulation package to work on it. Within three hours, I was able to extract a very decent sounding, listenable recording out of that mess, in spite of being a total neophyte. Truly amazing. -Scott Fas If, after t Article: 340552 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "k35454" References: <1156464715.484737.151440@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Operatic Model 45M Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 00:15:25 -0700 If you are talking about the light-coloured thing in the lower right quadrant of the photo, It looks like an ordinary ceramic or similar trimmer capacitor , usually used to peak a tuned circuit at some criteria frequency. k35454. "Dave.H" wrote in message news:1156464715.484737.151440@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... I have bought a wooden radio from eBay, and it has arrived today, an Operatic Model 45M. A five valve (tube) radio, it employs 3 full size valves and two miniature. I powered it up and it has power supply hum? and doesn't pick up much stations, although I'm hoping to get the shortwave working. Is it normal for the valves to glow dimly and some have a deposit on the inside of the glass as if blown but they work. I thought they glow bright. The Rola speaker is very good for its age, has faded a bit and a small tear or two, but that don't worry me. The speaker cloth is loose and a bit worn. It also has no back, this worries me as my Burmese cat is very curious and I don't want him fried. Is it a live chassis? It has earth wire coming out of the back, and antenna wire coming out beside that. It has some markings on the undeside of the chassis. See this photo. http://community.webshots.com/photo/553460291/2718889290086933478pNfgkM Written is OK. 17/10/46. I cant make out the writing on the right. Looks like service info, and it was checked over in 1946. This would make it a prewar radio. Has got something that don't look normal non the chassis underside, see this photo http://community.webshots.com/photo/553460291/2201611200086933478uZmAgL Not sure what that is? Sorry for all the questions, this happens to be my first valve radio. View all photos of it here, http://community.webshots.com/album/553460291UOIdSU Article: 340553 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave.H" Subject: Re: Operatic Model 45M Date: 25 Aug 2006 01:02:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1156492973.332385.100360@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156464715.484737.151440@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Ever since I (carefully) cleaned it, the radio only clicks and pops. No stations are audible. What should I do with this? Whats the problem? Article: 340554 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <1156464715.484737.151440@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156492973.332385.100360@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Operatic Model 45M Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:33:58 GMT Dave, Before you plug this radio in again go here, http://www.antiqueradio.org/begin.htm and read through the various subjects. Phil has gone to great lengths to present good information for the beginner. In an earlier post you mentioned using the raido as is, however bad filters will eventually take out other expensive and difficult to obtain components, specifically the power transformer is at risk. As far as why the radio does not work after cleaning perhaps a wire or compnent was dislodged during the process. If the tubes were removed for the cleaning maybe the pins are dirty or otherwise making poor contact, or it may be that they are not all in the correct sockets. Larry Fowkes "Dave.H" wrote in message news:1156492973.332385.100360@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Ever since I (carefully) cleaned it, the radio only clicks and pops. > No stations are audible. What should I do with this? Whats the > problem? > Article: 340555 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: Subject: Re: Arvin 9562 question Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:38:43 GMT Scott, Just a wild a@@ guess here, but could the 1.5 v tap be used for a dial light of some sort? Is there some type of momentary contact switch on the radio to light the dial as needed? Larry Fowkes "Scott Irvine" wrote in message news:ZtOdnd9sN70JvHPZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@insightbb.com... > I have an Arvin model #9562 transistor radio. Circa 1959-60? It uses 6 D > batteries. It has a tap at 1.5v. What is the tap for and if I wanted to > use an ac adapter would I need to use a 9v and a 1.5v to make the radio > work? Thanks for any ideas. > > Scott Irvine Article: 340556 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Anyone have a schematic for an Emud T7? Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:56:35 +0900 Message-ID: I'm not afraid to pay for one if necessary. TIA Brenda Ann -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! Article: 340557 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave.H" Subject: Re: Operatic Model 45M Date: 25 Aug 2006 04:18:43 -0700 Message-ID: <1156504723.530757.139310@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1156464715.484737.151440@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> I only took the tubes out one by one so theyre in the right sockets. I think I may know whats wrong with the radio. According to the previous photo of the underchassis (I may have this wrong) one of the components has dislodged. I had my suspicions with this before. The recent underchassis photos here http://www.flickr.com/photos/davehenning/224380463/ I added a note to were this componet is so move your mouse over the photo. The previous photo is here, http://community.webshots.com/photo/553460291/2510369390086933478WJvFrc# Its to the right of the two brown capacitors forming an L shape in the center bottom. Article: 340558 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave.H" Subject: Re: Operatic Model 45M Date: 25 Aug 2006 04:21:23 -0700 Message-ID: <1156504883.008922.217280@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156464715.484737.151440@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> What I forgot to ask is this radio a live chassis model? It has no back or screw holes for one if that helps. Article: 340559 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "N Cook" Subject: Fabricating a stylus replacement Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:52:38 +0100 Message-ID: I've done the steel (for electro-magnetic induction) metalwork to make a functional replacement (to preserve the original un-used) for the stylus carrying shaft through a 55 year old magnetic cartridge. I've robbed the stylus point, (same translucent white -what is the gem?) >from later style LP/SP stylus with a tiny part of the aluminimum stylus shaft and intend gluing to the pit at the end of the steel shaft about 1.5 mm internal diameter , outside diameter 1.8mm and about 2 mm deep above the solid part of the steel. What sort of glue would be best epoxy, super-glue or some specialist glue? The steel I've used is probably high carbon brittle rods for holding cogs in clock repair, so very stiff for its small diameter. -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ Article: 340560 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Uncle Willie" References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <_d-dnSKnz7Yo1HPZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com> Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 08:25:23 -0400 Message-ID: <8d365$44eeec14$d1cc5bb8$16828@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:Sv2dnc1X17mQDXPZnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com... > My older son and my wife's best friend both bought top-end Dell laptops > during the months in question. We checked the batteries and they weren't in > the recall group. Everything working fine. Snore . . . . > > Sitting next to my computer as I type is the Sony KV-1311CR monitor that I > have used daily since purchase in the early 1980s. It's what I use to watch > satellite TV in the office. > > So -- anybody want to discuss antique radios or phonos? We welcome your > ideas on those RELEVANT topics. > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson Well...I do collect older Sony Transistor Radios, my favorite being an auto/home/portable transportable model that runs off of 4 D-cells or 12V that was made in 1966. It still plays great too and looks nice sitting in my restored 1966 Buick Wildcat Sedan that has almost as much chrome plated steel *inside* the passenger compartment as is outside on the V-shaped front end. (grin) Still however, I found it very amusing that this all went down with Sony and their batteries on the same day that the IAU downsized the Solar System from 9 to 8 Planets.... Wonder if Art Bell will have anything to comment on about this on Saturday Night ? (grin) Article: 340561 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Mystery Turntable Date: 25 Aug 2006 05:54:42 -0700 Message-ID: <1156510482.844784.234610@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: William Noble wrote: > I like that TT design - what a great way to get infinitely variable speed > without any control electronics - just "lovely" to use the vernacular of the > time. Lovely, vastly over-engineered.... Very British. Today the Brits still make the world's best hobby-grade steam engines, MUCH better than the Germans. For about the same reasons. http://www.pps-steam-models.co.uk/index.htm One need go no further than the original Jaguar XKE V-12, with six (6) side-draft carburettors (Brit spelling, please) and whitworth nuts and bolts... http://www.jag-lovers.org/xk-lovers/library/whitworth_system.html ... to have a very clear picture of the mind of a British Engineer. Mandatory Radio Content: The Lucas-engineered radios didn't work either. (OK, OK Lucas didn't make the radios... ) Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 340562 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 05:54:53 -0700 Message-ID: <18541-44EEF31D-6@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> References: <8d365$44eeec14$d1cc5bb8$16828@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> Got a question regarding laptops - can't they be run on straight AC with the batteries out of the loop? The reason being, i have resolved to dump this !@#$%^&* webtv dinosaur after 9 years. And a used laptop is the only real option. Bill(oc) Article: 340563 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Mystery Turntable References: <1156340416.910462.283150@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <44ee5bb9$0$8835$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156510482.844784.234610@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:23:32 GMT Peter Wieck wrote: > ... to have a very clear picture of the mind of a British Engineer. Heh, having owned a pre-unit '59 Triumph motorcycle.... > (OK, OK Lucas didn't make the radios... ) Lucas... Innovators in darkness. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 340564 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Lyndell Scott" References: Subject: Re: Fabricating a stylus replacement Message-ID: <4_CHg.10941$%j7.9038@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:32:48 GMT I have had success with JB Weld epoxy for this purpose. Super-glue did not work for me. -- Lyndell Scott Audio Antiques http://geocities.com/lfscott@flash.net Article: 340565 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1156340416.910462.283150@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <44ee5bb9$0$8835$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156510482.844784.234610@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mystery Turntable Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:43:05 GMT No, but the "Lucas, prince of darkness" electrical wiring in those cars were so atrocious that the cars themselves earned a reputation for being among the most unreliable ever made. That, and overheating, valve problems, etc. Whatever you may think of foreign engineering, and I'll admit that much of it is indeed noteworthy, probably the best thing that ever happened to Jaguar was its being purchased by Ford. As for the radios, just what DID go in them? Becker? Radiomobile? Pye? In my opinion the best of the bunch is Becker -- they indeed made some phenomenal sounding stereos back in the 60's, and they are the only ones I know of who made an AM/FM stereo/cassette wonderbar. The insides were built like a watch, making it a bear to work on, but it performed well. Plus, it was compact -- similar in size to most American AM radios of the period. At a time when Americans were hooked on gadgetry, and Europeans preferred simplicity and performance, it's surprising that Becker was the first (that I know of) to offer a radio with "all the toys." -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1156510482.844784.234610@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > One need go no further than the original Jaguar XKE V-12, with six (6) > side-draft carburettors (Brit spelling, please) and whitworth nuts and > bolts... > > http://www.jag-lovers.org/xk-lovers/library/whitworth_system.html > > ... to have a very clear picture of the mind of a British Engineer. > > Mandatory Radio Content: The Lucas-engineered radios didn't work > either. > (OK, OK Lucas didn't make the radios... ) > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 340566 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Trans-Portable radio Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:16:39 GMT Am I a glutton for punishment or what? A customer is sending me a "Trans-Portable" radio from a 58 Oldsmobile. Have you ever seen one of these? It was an interesting idea that only lasted for a couple of years, mainly because in my opinion, it's a STUPID idea -- in the same category as car record players.. These radios were available as options in the 58-59 Olds and Pontiac; I don't know if Buick or the others ever offered one. It is a radio that actually slides into the dash as a docking station, and plays through the dash speaker in the normal fashion. However it can be removed and used as a portable radio, with built-in speaker and batteries. So you can take it to the beach, fill it up with sand, and jab it back into the dash for the trip home. The portable idea was indeed cute. It's a stupid idea however, as for the same or less money you could easily purchase a REAL portable radio and keep it portable. Of course today there are plenty of car stereos that pull out in the same fashion, for the purpose of theft prevention. That only works IF you pull out the radio and take it with you everywhere you go -- otherwise it's easier than ever to steal. Still, it's a novelty. I may post a few pictures when I get it. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 340567 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Looking for a Trade Date: 25 Aug 2006 07:17:04 -0700 Message-ID: <1156515424.465254.269150@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I have two Original US-made AR Integrated Amplifiers. I am willing to trade the better of the two, or trader's choice for a contemporary AR Tuner in similar condition, Gorler front-end preferred. As an additional incentive, I will include a 300-watt fused VIZ isolation transfomer. Both are in excellent condition, all factory mods and clean. Both are in use as well. All factory-designed mods completed. Also included will be copies of the Service Manual, Owners manual, and original packaging if that makes the trade go. Let me know and thanks in advance. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 340568 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "tony" Subject: Re: help with an obsolete ECG #? Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:29:08 -0500 Message-ID: References: Thank you so much. That is what I needed. Now I need luck in finding one. For the others who responded, I got the data for the ECG 754 by looking for NTE 754, from whose site I got the data sheets and confirmed it is the same one as the single FF. The original numbers printed on the IC's are Story&Clark part numbers. That was what I was asking in the post a while back to see if anyone recognized them. Yes, these are strange packaging where two IC legs are longer than the others. "Rick" wrote in message news:gHuHg.1323$bM.544@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net... > > "tony" wrote in message > news:ecl9vn$hds$1@news.tamu.edu... >> I posted quite a while ago about trying to repair the Story&Clark organ >> at >> our church. It uses now-obsolete flip-flop IC's as the frequency >> dividers, >> and there are two kinds, one with 4 legs which are a single FF but most >> are >> 6 legs containing 2 FF's. They operate on a 17 volt supply, which >> precludes >> a quick modern substitution, even with rewiring. >> A reader remembered that the single FF ones can be replaced with >> ECG754, >> (I looked up the data sheet for this # and verified it is the one) but he >> could not remember the ECG number for the dual one. Any idea how can I >> determine that? >> >> My 1996 ECG catalog just lists them as obsolete, unavailable, and gives >> no >> data. >> >> With the number in hand I can try some of the obsolete IC suppliers, but >> I >> don't know what to ask for. > > > ECG 761 was the dual. I have the data sheets for both.... > > Article: 340569 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Message-ID: References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <44EE5AF6.3080309@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:40:03 GMT On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 02:05:32 GMT, patrick jankowiak wrote: >David wrote: > >> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:07:37 -0400, "Capt Video 2006!" >> wrote: >> >> >>>Looks like the Dell and Apple laptop battery fiasco >>>just might BANKRUPT Sony Corporation, so if your >>>looking for a Sony Shortwave, Scanner or other radio >>>product, you may want to buy it sooner than later.... >>> >>>--> http://tinyurl.com/ltf55 >>> >>>---> >>>http://www.forbes.com/markets/equities/2006/08/17/sony-update-0817marketscan01.html >>> >>>---> http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14502021/ >>> >>>---> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/4139283.html >>> >> http://www.quadonevideo.com/ Article: 340570 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "tony" Subject: Re: help with an obsolete ECG #? Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:52:26 -0500 Message-ID: References: I just checked and the NTE website does not have datasheets for ECG/NTE 761 or 757, but they did for 754! Anyone having those sheets please email scans of them so I can confirm they are the same ones. "Rick" wrote in message news:gHuHg.1323$bM.544@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net... > > "tony" wrote in message > news:ecl9vn$hds$1@news.tamu.edu... >> I posted quite a while ago about trying to repair the Story&Clark organ >> at >> our church. It uses now-obsolete flip-flop IC's as the frequency >> dividers, >> and there are two kinds, one with 4 legs which are a single FF but most >> are >> 6 legs containing 2 FF's. They operate on a 17 volt supply, which >> precludes >> a quick modern substitution, even with rewiring. >> A reader remembered that the single FF ones can be replaced with >> ECG754, >> (I looked up the data sheet for this # and verified it is the one) but he >> could not remember the ECG number for the dual one. Any idea how can I >> determine that? >> >> My 1996 ECG catalog just lists them as obsolete, unavailable, and gives >> no >> data. >> >> With the number in hand I can try some of the obsolete IC suppliers, but >> I >> don't know what to ask for. > > > ECG 761 was the dual. I have the data sheets for both.... > > Article: 340571 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: Subject: Re: Trans-Portable radio Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:16:02 -0400 Message-ID: Gary, surprised you haven't seen one of these! Yes, Buick did it too. The Olds version is most common, though. Pontiac is most rare, i think. I sold mine years ago for $100. They seem to go for $80-$150 unrestored. Mark Oppat "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:bDDHg.3783$NF3.1615@trnddc05... > Am I a glutton for punishment or what? > > A customer is sending me a "Trans-Portable" radio from a 58 Oldsmobile. > Have you ever seen one of these? > > It was an interesting idea that only lasted for a couple of years, mainly > because in my opinion, it's a STUPID idea -- in the same category as car > record players.. > > These radios were available as options in the 58-59 Olds and Pontiac; I > don't know if Buick or the others ever offered one. It is a radio that > actually slides into the dash as a docking station, and plays through the > dash speaker in the normal fashion. However it can be removed and used as a > portable radio, with built-in speaker and batteries. So you can take it to > the beach, fill it up with sand, and jab it back into the dash for the trip > home. > > The portable idea was indeed cute. It's a stupid idea however, as for the > same or less money you could easily purchase a REAL portable radio and keep > it portable. > > Of course today there are plenty of car stereos that pull out in the same > fashion, for the purpose of theft prevention. That only works IF you pull > out the radio and take it with you everywhere you go -- otherwise it's > easier than ever to steal. > > Still, it's a novelty. I may post a few pictures when I get it. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > Article: 340572 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: Subject: Re: Trans-Portable radio Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:00:45 -0700 Message-ID: <_KKdneSCpvsog3LZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@giganews.com> > A customer is sending me a "Trans-Portable" radio from a 58 Oldsmobile. > Have you ever seen one of these? Yes, I own the Buick model. http://antiqueradio.org/buick.htm If you follow the link from that article to my Blaupunkt Derby article, you'll find a discussion of why the "take-along" radio concept was more popular in Europe than in the USA. Regards, Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html