Article 33913 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Fred Higgins" Subject: A new breed of free email! Worldwide access including WWW, Outlook, mobiles/PDAs etc.! Reply-To: "Fred Higgins" Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 01:44:29 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-Library: Indy 9.00.10 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping X-InternalID: CRHVIkkIo6tCrgAIixD0TcqiMrKtAUfz9Hxq Lines: 5 Message-ID: <3e1247ff$1$247$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: userdx05.uk.uudial.com X-Trace: 1041385472 news.dial.pipex.com 247 62.188.8.98 X-Complaints-To: abuse@uk.uu.net Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn14feed!wn12feed!worldnet.att.net!204.71.34.3!newsfeed.cwix.com!opentransit.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.esat.net!lnewspeer01.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!lnewspost00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33913 Being a gadget freak I own a T68I, T39, 6310I, 7650, 8310, and an IPAQ 3970. I've spent many an hour looking for a unified email solution that would enable me to access my email from not only my *favorite email client & web browser* but also my *mobile devices* as well. Eventually I found a solution offered by UPO, here's the link : http://www.universalpostoffice.com They also offer you a variety of available email addresses including such as mymobile.net, and various other phone/PDA type domains. They're even including 10mb of storage and POP3 access and aren't charging a cent. For how long I don't know. BTW, easy access via GPRS/CSD with any built-in phone email client like the 7650 or T68(I) has! Article 33914 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: adamf@nullcity.net (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: ghost post? Date: 1 Jan 2003 18:34:34 -0500 Organization: Self-Organized. Dig that. Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: nobody@nullcity.net NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1041464074 14071 166.84.1.3 (1 Jan 2003 23:34:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 23:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!news.umass.edu!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!panix!panix3.panix.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33914 In article , David Hatch wrote: >Hi all > A poser if you will... I use Agent as my e-mail newsreader and have >made a couple of posts over the course of the last couple of days. The >problem is searching google from here at work I do not find my >original post let alone any responses (I have had none at home as >well) Did they ever get on the newsgroup? If anyone has noticed a >couple of threads "EZI question" or "Breeder queen question" I would >appreciate someone letting me know if they saw it go by at some point. >If not it may be my server and I need to get in touch with them... >Thanks alot David Hatch, Corning NY > >PS in case google insists on listing the wrong e-mail it should read >D_Hatch@Hotmail.com Google is less then the absolute than they'd have you think. They cache stuff and often Usenet post don't make it into their archives. Thank goodness for the old newsreaders like trn that can archive posts right off the spool. The only problem wit that is if your site has a lousy feed... :) Adam -- Adam Finkelstein adamf panix com To reply to this post, use the address components in the signature. Article 33915 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: adamf@nullcity.net (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Happy New Year from USA Date: 1 Jan 2003 18:57:52 -0500 Organization: Self-Organized. Dig that. Lines: 49 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1041465472 14456 166.84.1.3 (1 Jan 2003 23:57:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 23:57:52 +0000 (UTC) Keywords: woopi-cadoopi Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn14feed!wn12feed!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.71.34.3!newsfeed.cwix.com!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!panix!panix3.panix.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33915 Hello! I wanted to wish you all a very happy American new year. I've been really busy with my work (day job) and haevn't had the chance to post much here in the last year or so. Did you know that next year, 2004 is this newsgroup's tenth anniversary? Cool! I'm going to get the search engine built on www.ibiblio.org/bees and hopefully an automated bee-l update so that we'll have access to beekeeping information and be able to search it all from one spot currently. This has been my goal for beekeeping information on the net and we're getting there. regarding this newsgroup: I'm always amazed that the same topics continually emerge in waves, like surf on the beach: spam, kill files, off-topic posts, group moderation... The truth about Usenet is it's random and unmanagable, often broken, but filled with good information! Thank goodness we have it! Long live Usenet! Mites and disease: I haven't touched base with anyone yet on how their last season went, but we have some lines that are doing well without mite treatments. That's for Varroa and Treacheal and all those fine wee viruses that accompany the larger pathogens. Things look better than they have in a long while, but as any experienced beekeeper will tell you: "Whatever you think is going on, your probably right, or wrong, but it is sure to change!" Sincere best wishes for the new year, Adam -- Adam Finkelstein adamf panix com To reply to this post, use the address components in the signature. Article 33916 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: adamf@nullcity.net (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: alt.music.lyrics,sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: What song had the lyrics 'Got bees in the bathroom'? Date: 1 Jan 2003 19:00:23 -0500 Organization: Self-Organized. Dig that. Lines: 7 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: nobody@nullcity.net NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1041465623 14534 166.84.1.3 (2 Jan 2003 00:00:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 00:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!panix!panix3.panix.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu alt.music.lyrics:235196 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33916 Man that's funny. Adam -- Adam Finkelstein adamf panix com To reply to this post, use the address components in the signature. Article 33917 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Charlie Kroeger Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Pamela, this is my view from NYC Date: 2 Jan 2003 07:03:50 GMT Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <37326244855811155@news.interbusiness.it> <20021228211642.14016.00000322@mb-cr.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.167.138.119 X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1041491030 11192733 216.167.138.119 (16 [35320]) User-Agent: Xnews/05.08.12 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stueberl.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!216.167.138.119!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33917 harrisonrw@aol.com (HarrisonRW) wrote in news:20021228211642.14016.00000322@mb-cr.aol.com: >And what pray tell does this have to do with > sci.agriculture.beekeeping?>Subject: Pamela, this is my view from NYC RW, don't feed the trolls. Verb: troll 1. Circulate, move around 2. Cause to move round and round 3. Sing the parts of (a round) in succession 4. Angle with a hook and line drawn through the water 5. Sing loudly and without inhibition 6. Praise or celebrate in song 7. Speak or recite rapidly or in a rolling voice [WordWeb.info] C.K. Article 33918 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Murray McGregor Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Pamela, this is my view from NYC Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:00:14 +0000 Organization: Denrosa Ltd Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <37326244855811155@news.interbusiness.it> <20021228211642.14016.00000322@mb-cr.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: denrosa.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1041501746 1831 194.222.100.90 (2 Jan 2003 10:02:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:02:26 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-U () Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!128.230.129.106!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!denrosa.demon.co.uk!murray Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33918 In article , Charlie Kroeger writes >4. Angle with a hook and line drawn through the water Whilst obviously the above is the meaning intended, personally I prefer one of the nouns. I like to think of these people as malevolent little poisoned dwarfs. It answers a lot of questions about their behaviour. Let them die of starvation. Much more satisfying than helping them get more and more animated. -- Murray McGregor Article 33919 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "BeeFarmer" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: stamped foundation Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 07:30:15 -0500 Organization: Kids getting involved with Beekeeping Lines: 23 Message-ID: Reply-To: "BeeFarmer" NNTP-Posting-Host: rrcs-central-24-123-61-178.biz.rr.com (24.123.61.178) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1041510620 11563638 24.123.61.178 (16 [66812]) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stueberl.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!rrcs-central-24-123-61-178.biz.rr.COM!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33919 This gentleman needs assistance. Dear Sirs, We are a small rach in southern baja, Mexico with 200 hives and are interested in purchasing a machine that will process stamped foundation. Do you know of a company in USA that has this item. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Emilio H. Yagel Rancho La Primera laprimera@bcsmexico.com -- OhioBeeFarmer Getting kids involved in Beekeeping http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/BeesRUs.html http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html Article 33920 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: cheap air nailer Date: 2 Jan 2003 13:54:41 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 3 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0301021354.45a1a8ab@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.15.188 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1041544482 31069 127.0.0.1 (2 Jan 2003 21:54:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Jan 2003 21:54:42 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33920 In todays junk mail cheap Chinese air nailer for 19.99 from Harbor Freight capacity to 1 -3/8 probably good for frame assembly use glue anyway part number 42528-2rvb Article 33921 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "huestis'" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: stamped foundation Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:24:47 -0800 Lines: 28 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.23.11.69 Message-ID: <3e14d8a0_2@corp.newsgroups.com> X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1041553568 209.23.11.69 (2 Jan 2003 18:26:08 -0600) X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. X-Comments3: IMPORTANT: Under NO circumstances will postings containing illegal or copyrighted material through this service be tolerated!! X-Report: Please report illegal or inappropriate use to X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, INCLUDING the body (DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 80,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!news-out.newsfeeds.com!l2!corp.newsgroups.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33921 Hi Emilio H. Yagel, There are only two mill makers in the US that I am aware of. One is Toma of Tom Industries. Unfortunately Toma has just come out of a coma and is not back to making mills yet. Mills from Tom are below: http://www.beesource.com/suppliers/tomind.htm The other is: THE HAWLEY HONEY CO. Raymond Cooper 220 N. Elm Iola, KS 66749 Ph: 620-365-5956 Mill: 4.9 hand crank mill He has other worker cell sizes too I believe. Out of curiosity what size cell foundation do you use? I am using a mill from Toma, but those from the Hawley company are excellent too (Ive heard very excellent but are a bit more expensive). regards, Clay -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- adamf panix com To reply to this post, use the address components in the signature. Article 33917 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Charlie Kroeger Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Pamela, this is my view from NYC Date: 2 Jan 2003 07:03:50 GMT Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <37326244855811155@news.interbusiness.it> <20021228211642.14016.00000322@mb-cr.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.167.138.119 X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1041491030 11192733 216.167.138.119 (16 [35320]) User-Agent: Xnews/05.08.12 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stueberl.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!216.167.138.119!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33917 harrisonrw@aol.com (HarrisonRW) wrote in news:20021228211642.14016.00000322@mb-cr.aol.com: >And what pray tell does this have to do with > sci.agriculture.beekeeping?>Subject: Pamela, this is my view from NYC RW, don't feed the trolls. Verb: troll 1. Circulate, move around 2. Cause to move round and round 3. Sing the parts of (a round) in succession 4. Angle with a hook and line drawn through the water 5. Sing loudly and without inhibition 6. Praise or celebrate in song 7. Speak or recite rapidly or in a rolling voice [WordWeb.info] C.K. Article 33918 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Murray McGregor Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Pamela, this is my view from NYC Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:00:14 +0000 Organization: Denrosa Ltd Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <37326244855811155@news.interbusiness.it> <20021228211642.14016.00000322@mb-cr.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: denrosa.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1041501746 1831 194.222.100.90 (2 Jan 2003 10:02:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:02:26 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-U () Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!128.230.129.106!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!denrosa.demon.co.uk!murray Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33918 In article , Charlie Kroeger writes >4. Angle with a hook and line drawn through the water Whilst obviously the above is the meaning intended, personally I prefer one of the nouns. I like to think of these people as malevolent little poisoned dwarfs. It answers a lot of questions about their behaviour. Let them die of starvation. Much more satisfying than helping them get more and more animated. -- Murray McGregor Article 33919 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "BeeFarmer" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: stamped foundation Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 07:30:15 -0500 Organization: Kids getting involved with Beekeeping Lines: 23 Message-ID: Reply-To: "BeeFarmer" NNTP-Posting-Host: rrcs-central-24-123-61-178.biz.rr.com (24.123.61.178) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1041510620 11563638 24.123.61.178 (16 [66812]) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stueberl.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!rrcs-central-24-123-61-178.biz.rr.COM!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33919 This gentleman needs assistance. Dear Sirs, We are a small rach in southern baja, Mexico with 200 hives and are interested in purchasing a machine that will process stamped foundation. Do you know of a company in USA that has this item. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Emilio H. Yagel Rancho La Primera laprimera@bcsmexico.com -- OhioBeeFarmer Getting kids involved in Beekeeping http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/BeesRUs.html http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html Article 33920 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: cheap air nailer Date: 2 Jan 2003 13:54:41 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 3 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0301021354.45a1a8ab@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.15.188 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1041544482 31069 127.0.0.1 (2 Jan 2003 21:54:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Jan 2003 21:54:42 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33920 In todays junk mail cheap Chinese air nailer for 19.99 from Harbor Freight capacity to 1 -3/8 probably good for frame assembly use glue anyway part number 42528-2rvb Article 33921 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "huestis'" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: stamped foundation Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:24:47 -0800 Lines: 28 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.23.11.69 Message-ID: <3e14d8a0_2@corp.newsgroups.com> X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1041553568 209.23.11.69 (2 Jan 2003 18:26:08 -0600) X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. X-Comments3: IMPORTANT: Under NO circumstances will postings containing illegal or copyrighted material through this service be tolerated!! X-Report: Please report illegal or inappropriate use to X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, INCLUDING the body (DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 80,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!news-out.newsfeeds.com!l2!corp.newsgroups.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33921 Hi Emilio H. Yagel, There are only two mill makers in the US that I am aware of. One is Toma of Tom Industries. Unfortunately Toma has just come out of a coma and is not back to making mills yet. Mills from Tom are below: http://www.beesource.com/suppliers/tomind.htm The other is: THE HAWLEY HONEY CO. Raymond Cooper 220 N. Elm Iola, KS 66749 Ph: 620-365-5956 Mill: 4.9 hand crank mill He has other worker cell sizes too I believe. Out of curiosity what size cell foundation do you use? I am using a mill from Toma, but those from the Hawley company are excellent too (Ive heard very excellent but are a bit more expensive). regards, Clay -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Article 33922 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: adamf@ibiblio.org (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: testing please ignore Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:41:09 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 5 Distribution: local Message-ID: Reply-To: adamf@ibiblio.org NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.2.210.122 X-Trace: news.unc.edu 1041597668 152.2.210.122 (3 Jan 2003 07:41:08 -0500) Organization: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Path: news.unc.edu!tribal.metalab.unc.edu!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33922 Test 1 -- Adam Finkelstein adamf@ibiblio.org http://www.ibiblio.org/bees Article 33923 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: adamf@ibiblio.org (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Testing please ignore Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:42:30 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 5 Distribution: local Message-ID: Reply-To: adamf@ibiblio.org NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.2.210.122 X-Trace: news.unc.edu 1041597749 152.2.210.122 (3 Jan 2003 07:42:29 -0500) Organization: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Path: news.unc.edu!tribal.metalab.unc.edu!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33923 test 2 -- Adam Finkelstein adamf@ibiblio.org http://www.ibiblio.org/bees Article 33924 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: adamf@ibiblio.org (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: testing please ignore Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 5 Distribution: local Message-ID: Reply-To: adamf@ibiblio.org NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.2.210.122 X-Trace: news.unc.edu 1041597869 152.2.210.122 (3 Jan 2003 07:44:29 -0500) Organization: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Path: news.unc.edu!tribal.metalab.unc.edu!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33924 Test 3 -- Adam Finkelstein adamf@ibiblio.org http://www.ibiblio.org/bees Article 33925 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: adamf@ibiblio.org (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: testing please ignore Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:59:00 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 6 Distribution: nc Message-ID: Reply-To: adamf@ibiblio.org NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.2.210.122 X-Trace: news.unc.edu 1041598739 152.2.210.122 (3 Jan 2003 07:58:59 -0500) Organization: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Path: news.unc.edu!tribal.metalab.unc.edu!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33925 test 1 -- Adam Finkelstein adamf@ibiblio.org http://www.ibiblio.org/bees Article 33926 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: adamf@ibiblio.org (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: testing please ignore Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:01:53 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 12 Distribution: nc Message-ID: References: Reply-To: adamf@ibiblio.org NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.2.210.122 X-Trace: news.unc.edu 1041598912 152.2.210.122 (3 Jan 2003 08:01:52 -0500) Organization: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Path: news.unc.edu!tribal.metalab.unc.edu!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33926 In article , Adam Finkelstein wrote: >test 1 testing a thread for archival. Sure beats the heck out of Google, no? -- Adam Finkelstein adamf@ibiblio.org http://www.ibiblio.org/bees Article 33927 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: adamf@ibiblio.org (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Testing yet another thread for archival Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 10 Distribution: nc Message-ID: Reply-To: adamf@ibiblio.org NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.2.210.122 X-Trace: news.unc.edu 1041598999 152.2.210.122 (3 Jan 2003 08:03:19 -0500) Organization: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Path: news.unc.edu!tribal.metalab.unc.edu!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33927 e=mc2 A new mite formula for speedy ectopic parasites... -- Adam Finkelstein adamf@ibiblio.org http://www.ibiblio.org/bees Article 33929 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Dan Z. Johnson Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: cheap air nailer Organization: The Mosin-Nagant Webpage Reply-To: danz@voicenet.com Message-ID: References: <23e8adb1.0301021354.45a1a8ab@posting.google.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 17 Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 02:20:10 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.71.20.87 X-Complaints-To: abuse@voicenet.com X-Trace: news2.voicenet.com 1041906010 209.71.20.87 (Mon, 06 Jan 2003 21:20:10 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 21:20:10 EST Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.voicenet.com!news2.voicenet.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33929 And for hive bodies and supers? What do the air tool-enabled bee keepers use? I recently set up a good sized compressor in the workshop and can't wait to assemble hives without using a hammer. DanZ On Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:59:39 -0500, "BeeFarmer" wrote: >They have some really good deals on inexpensive units. I use one of their >air staplers the shoots 1/4 by 2 inch staples. It is great for frames. I >normally shoot 1 - 1 1/4 inch staples in the frame. When I bought the unit >it was about 24.99. Sorry, I don't have the part number but here is the web >address: > >http://www.harborfreight.com/ Article 33930 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 22:30:02 -0600 Message-ID: <3E1A5503.E0C01071@hcis.net> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 22:18:11 -0600 From: AL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: cheap air nailer References: <23e8adb1.0301021354.45a1a8ab@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.240.93.192 X-Trace: sv3-w1GwJbjzc2Qb46bJgM+br3I4DaYyz6dOrXB41YdJIauGO1rOf+l1OLt47k67yL4DyO0b6ECvmKLkTrR!0u8J+pzkK2FTfNgc/5o4QkCWv65CPXYJZ6ikmEFBCzBE9yySxyy0f9KBVHtiIE1Ze1b0xWA= X-Complaints-To: abuse@shawneelink.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@shawneelink.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.us.prserv.net!prserv.net!cyclone.swbell.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!feed01.bs1!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.shawneelink.net!news.shawneelink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33930 "Dan Z. Johnson" wrote: > > And for hive bodies and supers? What do the air tool-enabled bee keepers use? I > recently set up a good sized compressor in the workshop and can't wait to > assemble hives without using a hammer. > > DanZ I have no idea the cost but during a construction project last summer one of the guys had butane powered nailer - that was *nice*. That dude would have handled hive bodies anywhere including the bee yard for repairs. AL Article 33931 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: adamf@nullcity.net (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: cheap air nailer Date: 7 Jan 2003 06:18:44 -0500 Organization: Self-Organized. Dig that. Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <23e8adb1.0301021354.45a1a8ab@posting.google.com> Reply-To: nobody@nullcity.net NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1041938324 11739 166.84.1.3 (7 Jan 2003 11:18:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 11:18:44 +0000 (UTC) Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!panix!panix3.panix.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33931 In article , Dan Z. Johnson wrote: >And for hive bodies and supers? What do the air tool-enabled bee keepers use? I >recently set up a good sized compressor in the workshop and can't wait to >assemble hives without using a hammer. > >DanZ > >On Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:59:39 -0500, "BeeFarmer" >wrote: > >>They have some really good deals on inexpensive units. I use one of their >>air staplers the shoots 1/4 by 2 inch staples. It is great for frames. I >>normally shoot 1 - 1 1/4 inch staples in the frame. When I bought the unit >>it was about 24.99. Sorry, I don't have the part number but here is the web >>address: Looking over the "cheapy route" or the "durable" route, we opted to purchase a fairly versatile Sears 18 gauge Combination Nailer/Stapler. Shoots 1/4-5/8" staples up to 1 1/2" long. There are similar makes available, we chose the Craftsman because it felt better holding it. Be sure to check that the majority of the staples/nails sold in the larger "super-stores" fit the model you end up choosing. Using this tool speeds up frame-making by about 2000%. :-) If used to put together boxes, the longer staples are preferred. I also use construction (waterproof) glue with the staples. This combination has worked very well. The compressor is loud! It kicks in and often makes me jump! Adam -- Adam Finkelstein adamf panix com To reply to this post, use the address components in the signature. Article 33932 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping From: Billy Subject: Centrifuge for Pollen Analysis X-Nntp-Posting-Host: rs498032.ks.boeing.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3E1AF3B6.ACCB503E@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (Boeing NNTP News Access) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Dew of the Plains Apiaries X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 15:35:18 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; AIX 4.3) Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!uunet!sea.uu.net!sac.uu.net!dfw.uu.net!ash.uu.net!xyzzy!nntp Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33932 Folks, Am toying with the idea of doing some pollen analysis of my honey to try and determine the sources. I understand that it is a involved process but I want to try for the fun of it. Anyway, one method used to separate the pollen from the honey is by use of a centrifuge. Not having one of these myself I did a search on ebay and found several entries for centrifuges. Most are the medical type used to do bloodwork. I think I could probably get one of these for around $20-$30. I have no experience with centrifuges and don't know if one of these medical units would work for pollen analysis. Has anyone tried? It needs to spin at 2500-3000rpm for 5 minutes. Most of the units I saw exceed this speed, which I think would still be OK as long as it's faster? Thanks, Billy Smart Rock, KS Article 33933 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Ruary Rudd" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <3E1AF3B6.ACCB503E@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Centrifuge for Pollen Analysis Lines: 28 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:14:55 -0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 159.134.156.249 X-Complaints-To: abuse@eircom.net X-Trace: news.indigo.ie 1042049696 159.134.156.249 (Wed, 08 Jan 2003 18:14:56 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 18:14:56 GMT Organization: Eircom.Net http://www.eircom.net Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.esat.net!news.indigo.ie!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33933 You want to make sure that the tubes can lift at right angles to the axis of rotation, Otherwise your pollen is left as a streak down the tube. You can also dilute the honey with water and allow the pollen to settle to the bottom of the jar, decant the dilute honey off, repeat once or twice and then place the settled pollen on a slide and work from there. Takes longer, but no rocket science required Ruary > Am toying with the idea of doing some pollen analysis of my honey to try > and determine the sources. I understand that it is a involved process > but I want to try for the fun of it. Anyway, one method used to separate > the pollen from the honey is by use of a centrifuge. Not having one of > these myself I did a search on ebay and found several entries for > centrifuges. Most are the medical type used to do bloodwork. I think I > could probably get one of these for around $20-$30. I have no experience > with centrifuges and don't know if one of these medical units would work > for pollen analysis. Has anyone tried? It needs to spin at 2500-3000rpm > for 5 minutes. Most of the units I saw exceed this speed, which I think > would still be OK as long as it's faster? > > Thanks, > > Billy Smart > Rock, KS Article 33934 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "roythiat" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: A farm in France Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:20:24 +0100 Organization: Guest of TISCALI - FRANCE Lines: 14 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: news3adm.tiscali.fr X-Trace: news2adm.tiscali.fr. 1042050343 8653 172.29.129.3 (8 Jan 2003 18:25:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@libertysurf.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:25:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.36.90.106 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!proxad.net!news.tiscali.fr!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33934 Hello, I don't know if this news-group is really appropriate, but i display this information: I have a farm for sale in the center of France, and if you know somebody that would be interested, you may give him this URL: http://royjp.chez.tiscali.fr/ There's all informations, and more some nices photos and links about of the region (Limousin). Thank you. Have a nice day. Roy JP Article 33935 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Euaghelos Karakassis" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Royal jelly pump Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 20:47:54 +0200 Organization: An OTEnet S.A. customer Lines: 7 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kate364-a083.otenet.gr X-Trace: usenet.otenet.gr 1042138314 27245 195.167.121.49 (9 Jan 2003 18:51:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@otenet.gr NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 18:51:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news-stoc.telia.net!news-stoa.telia.net!telia.net!Amsterdam.Infonet!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!news.otenet.gr!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33935 Please anyone knows were are royal jelly pumps for sale and coments for these. Thanks Van Article 33936 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Oliver" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <3E1AF3B6.ACCB503E@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Centrifuge for Pollen Analysis Lines: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 04:59:23 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.91.181.129 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1042174763 64.91.181.129 (Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:59:23 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:59:23 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!extra.newsguy.com!lotsanews.com!nntp1.phx1.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33936 Is there anywhere we can send our honey to have the pollen source analyzed ? Article 33937 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Oliver" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <23e8adb1.0301021354.45a1a8ab@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: cheap air nailer Lines: 4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 05:02:24 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.91.181.129 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1042174944 64.91.181.129 (Thu, 09 Jan 2003 21:02:24 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 21:02:24 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!lackawana.kippona.com!news.infoave.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33937 I have a Palm Nailer and they work well. Can handle many sizes of nails. Think I would switch to drive screw for supers in the future however. Article 33938 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Murray McGregor Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: cheap air nailer Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:05:03 +0000 Organization: Denrosa Ltd Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <23e8adb1.0301021354.45a1a8ab@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: denrosa.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1042189589 9169 194.222.100.90 (10 Jan 2003 09:06:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:06:29 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-U () Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!denrosa.demon.co.uk!murray Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33938 Whoever mentioned the butane powered nailer was on the ball. No compressor and take it wherever you want, out in the field or anyplace. We have one of them, US make, Paslode. You can get it to do nails, or other models to do staples. Great tool. However, if you are intending only to use it in one place the air version is best as it is a lot lighter and thus less tiring to use. As regards nails for supers as mentioned below, I would recommend annular nails. Bang in like any other nail (so they go in quickly), but grip like a screw. We use them in many cases if we are using wood we have any reason to feel might warp. This has come up before and most replies asked what an annular nail was. They are the ones with pronounced rings round the length of the shank to prevent the nail from pulling back out of the wood. If you are using a nail gun you can buy nails glue tipped, and the heat generated by the friction of going into the wood flash melts the glue, bonding the nail into place, and preventing the need for anything more labour intensive, like putting in screws. Murray In article , Oliver writes >I have a Palm Nailer and they work well. Can handle many sizes of >nails. Think I would switch to drive screw for supers in the future >however. > -- Murray McGregor Article 33939 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "The Cloete Family" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: bee grabbing Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 20:36:45 +0200 Organization: The South African Internet Exchange Lines: 6 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ctb54-01-p116.wc.saix.net X-Trace: ctb-nnrp2.saix.net 1042310201 9938 155.239.146.116 (11 Jan 2003 18:36:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@saix.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 Jan 2003 18:36:41 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.telebyte.nl!teleglobe.net!ctb-nntp1.saix.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33939 Anyone here heard of bee grabbing? Brendon Cape Town. Article 33940 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:08:06 -0600 Message-ID: <3E2068B4.A48D3A73@hcis.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:55:48 -0600 From: AL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: bee grabbing References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.240.93.209 X-Trace: sv3-brGW6DUyr2ZbltjYziyssGM0KSEhyDcUMQCOWd34sfZzVVgb37LcIf1QGb464PZfaDFeI7IkepvKPWB!c1j9e6C7jLTK9gu39a6MTWfUJkRl15nafkjU2rCPEITvnTyJPuHjUcY1k/qH1RA5lallj2M= X-Complaints-To: abuse@shawneelink.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@shawneelink.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stueberl.de!cox.net!nntp2.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.shawneelink.net!news.shawneelink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33940 The Cloete Family wrote: > > Anyone here heard of bee grabbing? > > Brendon > Cape Town. That pretty well describes my reaction to the ones that get up my pant leg. AL Article 33941 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: John Caldeira Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Royal jelly pump Message-ID: <5cc12vcaabd3avl7t36sumfgqor16fdjml@4ax.com> References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 18 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 00:12:03 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.62.104.125 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1042330323 4.62.104.125 (Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:12:03 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:12:03 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.us.prserv.net!prserv.net!cyclone.swbell.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33941 "Euaghelos Karakassis" wrote: >Please anyone knows were are royal jelly pumps for sale and coments for >these. > >Thanks >Van > A pump may be made from an aquarium air pump (used to create suction) and other common supplies. Here is a photo of such a device being used (though the pump itself is not visible): http://outdoorplace.org/beekeeping/graphics/RJ_2.jpg John John Caldeira Dallas, Texas, USA http://www.outdoorplace.org/beekeeping Article 33942 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: jim Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: bee grabbing Date: 11 Jan 2003 19:41:16 -0800 Organization: Newsguy News Service [http://newsguy.com] Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-643.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: Direct Read News 4.20 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!drn Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33942 >Anyone here heard of bee grabbing? Of course - how do you THINK the workers get into a queen cage? It is very difficult to convince them to walk in on their own. Here's a hint - practice on drones. They are slower, easier to handle without harming them, and (big plus) don't sting if you screw up. jim Article 33943 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "The Cloete Family" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: bee grabbing Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 13:38:54 +0200 Organization: The South African Internet Exchange Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ctb54-01-p378.wc.saix.net X-Trace: ctb-nnrp2.saix.net 1042457936 4341 155.239.147.122 (13 Jan 2003 11:38:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@saix.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Jan 2003 11:38:56 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.telebyte.nl!teleglobe.net!ctb-nntp1.saix.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33943 No that is not what I am talking about. I'll give you a hint. It is a form of bee-keeping practiced in Asia by one person. Cheers Brendon Article 33944 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Murray McGregor Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: bee grabbing Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 13:23:12 +0000 Organization: Denrosa Ltd Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: denrosa.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1042464333 19748 194.222.100.90 (13 Jan 2003 13:25:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 13:25:33 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-U () Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!denrosa.demon.co.uk!murray Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33944 In article , David Eyre writes > Try marking queens with this method, as you can see the thorax without >any obstruction. If you're right handed, then use the left to lift the bee, >leaving the right hand to handle the marking pen. > Now if someone could help me get those dots on, I'll be made. I catch them by a variant of this, using the right hand to pick them up by the wings, then allow the queen to grip your left forefinger with her legs. When she is gripping you, you then catch at least the two biggest legs on one side between your left thumb and forefinger. This then frees up your good hand to do whatever you like, including clipping, painting, or sticking discs on, with the correct surface (top of thorax) facing outwards towards you. Its quick, its easy, and indeed, if you practice on drones you will get more than competent at it in a very short time. Those who try it instead of push in traps etc rarely go back to their old ways. -- Murray McGregor Article 33945 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 28 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: beeman10@aol.com (Beeman10) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 09 Jan 2003 12:01:41 GMT References: <3E1AF3B6.ACCB503E@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Centrifuge for Pollen Analysis Message-ID: <20030109070141.08709.00000620@mb-fu.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!205.188.226.98!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m1.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33945 Could you give me a reference for the procedure you are using. I would like to try identifying some of the pollen sources. >Subject: Centrifuge for Pollen Analysis >From: Billy deweyplains@NOSPAM.yahoo.com >Date: 1/7/03 10:35 AM Eastern Standard Time >Message-id: <3E1AF3B6.ACCB503E@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> > >Folks, > >Am toying with the idea of doing some pollen analysis of my honey to try >and determine the sources. I understand that it is a involved process >but I want to try for the fun of it. Anyway, one method used to separate >the pollen from the honey is by use of a centrifuge. Not having one of >these myself I did a search on ebay and found several entries for >centrifuges. Most are the medical type used to do bloodwork. I think I >could probably get one of these for around $20-$30. I have no experience >with centrifuges and don't know if one of these medical units would work >for pollen analysis. Has anyone tried? It needs to spin at 2500-3000rpm >for 5 minutes. Most of the units I saw exceed this speed, which I think >would still be OK as long as it's faster? > >Thanks, > >Billy Smart >Rock, KS Article 33946 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping From: Billy Subject: Re: Centrifuge for Pollen Analysis X-Nntp-Posting-Host: rs498032.ks.boeing.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3E2321FC.7C62C688@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (Boeing NNTP News Access) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Dew of the Plains Apiaries X-Accept-Language: en References: <3E1AF3B6.ACCB503E@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> <20030109070141.08709.00000620@mb-fu.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:30:53 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; AIX 4.3) Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!uunet!sea.uu.net!sac.uu.net!dfw.uu.net!ash.uu.net!xyzzy!nntp Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33946 The pollen loads of the honeybee : a guide to their identification by colour and form / Dorothy Hodges ; containing a chart of pollen load colours ... and other illustrations by the author. Beeman10 wrote: > > Could you give me a reference for the procedure you are using. I would like to > try identifying some of the pollen sources. > > >Subject: Centrifuge for Pollen Analysis > >From: Billy deweyplains@NOSPAM.yahoo.com > >Date: 1/7/03 10:35 AM Eastern Standard Time > >Message-id: <3E1AF3B6.ACCB503E@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> > > > >Folks, > > > >Am toying with the idea of doing some pollen analysis of my honey to try > >and determine the sources. I understand that it is a involved process > >but I want to try for the fun of it. Anyway, one method used to separate > >the pollen from the honey is by use of a centrifuge. Not having one of > >these myself I did a search on ebay and found several entries for > >centrifuges. Most are the medical type used to do bloodwork. I think I > >could probably get one of these for around $20-$30. I have no experience > >with centrifuges and don't know if one of these medical units would work > >for pollen analysis. Has anyone tried? It needs to spin at 2500-3000rpm > >for 5 minutes. Most of the units I saw exceed this speed, which I think > >would still be OK as long as it's faster? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Billy Smart > >Rock, KS Article 33947 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 15 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: ooffy@aol.com (Ooffy) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 13 Jan 2003 22:09:30 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Beekeeping forklift Message-ID: <20030113170930.01363.00000323@mb-fb.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m1.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33947 We have a Clark Transporter forklift for sale. It has a 8' mast, has been professionally converted to propane, dual off road front tires, and a ROP cage. It is in very good condition and has been professionally maintained all its life (it can out of a University program and had very minimal use). Read to work - $3400 Pictures at http://members.aol.com./ooffy/Clark1.jpg http://members.aol.com./ooffy/Clark2.jpg Ron Bennett Luckiamute Bee ooffy@aol.com 503-838-2328 Monmouth OR Article 33948 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: leggassoc@aol.com (Lawrence Legg) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: honey straws Date: 14 Jan 2003 19:16:20 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 1 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.96.106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1042600580 32387 127.0.0.1 (15 Jan 2003 03:16:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Jan 2003 03:16:20 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33948 I am looking for information on making honey straws. Thanks. Article 33949 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Steve Huston" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: honey straws Lines: 10 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.62.89.183 X-Complaints-To: abuse@attbi.com X-Trace: sccrnsc04 1042642730 24.62.89.183 (Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:58:50 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:58:50 GMT Organization: AT&T Broadband Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:58:50 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!sccrnsc04.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33949 I believe I saw an ad for a machine that makes these... it was in a recent issue of ABJ or Bee Culture - don't recall which right now. -Steve "Lawrence Legg" wrote in message news:ce3204ed.0301141916.3ea09b92@posting.google.com... > I am looking for information on making honey straws. Thanks. Article 33950 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: steppler@cici.mb.ca (Ian) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: FGMO hive treatments Date: 15 Jan 2003 12:04:15 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 8 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.56.136.38 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1042661055 14808 127.0.0.1 (15 Jan 2003 20:04:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Jan 2003 20:04:15 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33950 I have been reading bites of information of mite treatments with use of food grade mineal oil. I was wondering if anyone here could lead me to any sites that have impartially conducted experiments with this treatment. I'm especially interested in the fogged FGMO treatments, for it may, if it actually/practially works, be its lead into the commercial hive treatment. Ian Article 33951 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Reply-To: "candia" From: "candia" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Beekeepers in Alberta Canada Lines: 9 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:37:06 -0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.1.22.229 X-Complaints-To: abuse@virgin.net X-Trace: newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net 1042709638 80.1.22.229 (Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:33:58 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:33:58 GMT Organization: Virgin Net Usenet Service Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.vmunix.org!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33951 Hi group I am presently a beekeeper in the UK who is going to emigrate to the Red Deer area of Alberta, is there any one who can tell me if there is any beekeeping associations in that area or any Web addresses for Canadian beekeepers. Regards Nick Article 33952 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Keith B. Forsyth" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Beekeepers in Alberta Canada Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:22:55 -0500 Organization: Keith B. Forsyth Lines: 27 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.212.94.180 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1123 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!news.umass.edu!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!torn!newserver!news.hwcn.org!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33952 You could try the following: Alberta Beekeepers Association Gertie Adair 11434- 168 Street #102 Edmonton AB T5M 3T9 780-489-6949 780-487-8640 honeybee@Albertabeekeepers.org Calgary and Area Beekeepers http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Beekeeping/beeclub.htm Canadian Honey Council Heather Clay 234-5149 Country Hills Blvd Calgary AB T3A 5K8 403-208-7141 403-547-4317 (fax) chc-ccm@honeycouncil.ca Provincial Apiarist Medhat Nasr medhat.nasr@gov.ab.ca Article 33953 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: albert.cannon@lineone.net (albert cannon) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: propolis Date: 16 Jan 2003 10:03:23 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 3 Message-ID: <4169b71c.0301161003.c387ae7@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.225.118.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1042740203 22016 127.0.0.1 (16 Jan 2003 18:03:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Jan 2003 18:03:23 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33953 To those interested in propolis, i would suggest the book by james fearnley titled "BEE PROPOLIS" it is by souvenier press Article 33954 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Artem" Newsgroups: ally.commerce.food,sci.agriculture,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,sci.agriculture.fruit,sci.agriculture.poultry,sci.agriculture.ratites Subject: We are looking for to buy the barley,rape seeds. (+380-4849 40971) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 04:21:21 +0300 Organization: S&PE Telematika Lines: 16 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: dp-0-45.tm.odessa.ua X-Trace: News.TM.Odessa.UA 1042750219 71801 195.66.212.45 (16 Jan 2003 20:50:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@News.Odessa.Net NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Jan 2003 20:50:19 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed1.bredband.com!bredband!uio.no!newsfeed1.funet.fi!newsfeeds.funet.fi!news1.spb.su!image.surnet.ru!surnet.ru!carrier.kiev.ua!news.odessa.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture:72040 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33954 sci.agriculture.fruit:4424 sci.agriculture.poultry:42207 sci.agriculture.ratites:1853 Dear Sirs ! We are agricultural farm company from Odessa region, Ukraine . We are growing the agricultural plants in own agricultural enterprise, in Ukraine . We are interested in buying of the seeds of agricultural plants such as barley, rape for to grow it in the season of February --April . We will very glad to look the differents propositions from Seeds companies . Yours truly, manager of Farm Company " Yavir" Vladymyr Vasylenko, Odessa region, Ukraine . Tel/fax: +380 4849 40971 +380 4873 28399. Article 33955 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 5 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lazurus106@aol.com (Lazurus106) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 17 Jan 2003 00:08:35 GMT References: <4169b71c.0301161003.c387ae7@posting.google.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: propolis Message-ID: <20030116190835.08958.00000027@mb-fn.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!205.188.226.97!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m2.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33955 Hi, So can you get us an ISBN or other information on it, how many pages ? Or maybe a short review of it for us? Cheers, Dutch Article 33956 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Interest Free Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: propolis Organization: Interest Free References: <4169b71c.0301161003.c387ae7@posting.google.com> <20030116190835.08958.00000027@mb-fn.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Noworyta News Reader/2.9 Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3FIV9.39768$NV.810769@news.direcpc.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:04:50 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.82.173.108 X-Complaints-To: abuse@direcpc.com X-Trace: news.direcpc.com 1042765503 66.82.173.108 (Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:05:03 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:05:03 EST Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!gestalt.direcpc.com!news.direcpc.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33956 Lazurus106 wrote: > Hi, > So can you get us an ISBN or other information on it, how many pages ? > Or maybe a short review of it for us? > Cheers, > Dutch 0-28563-5220 128 pages Article 33957 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Reply-To: "Tim Whittingham" From: "Tim Whittingham" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Telling the bees Lines: 9 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:09:00 -0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.255.16.130 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net 1042809384 62.255.16.130 (Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:16:24 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:16:24 GMT Organization: ntlworld News Service Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stueberl.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33957 I hear it is thought by some to be important to inform your bees of events in the house. In particular deaths but also marriages, births and the like. I have heard also that there are certain procedures for this - rhymes to recite, serving of wedding cake, attaching of black crepe to the hives for mourning. Does anyone know more? Tim W Article 33958 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Reply-To: "Tim Whittingham" From: "Tim Whittingham" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Tasmanian Leatherwood Honey Lines: 13 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:04:30 -0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.255.8.202 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net 1042815649 62.255.8.202 (Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:00:49 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:00:49 GMT Organization: ntlworld News Service Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.vmunix.org!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33958 How come it tastes like the food of the gods but smells like a cow-pat? Quite extraordinary! -- Tim W Everyday, I think about dying. About disease, starvation, violence, terrorism, war, the end of the world. It helps keep my mind off things. - Roger McGough Article 33959 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "David Brookes" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Telling the bees Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:05:04 -0000 Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.134.217.222 X-Trace: newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk 1042819500 28726 217.134.217.222 (17 Jan 2003 16:05:00 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Jan 2003 16:05:00 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33959 When my father passed away my step-mum and my sister had instructions to tie black crepe around his hives and knock on each roof so they would know. I've kept his bees as seperate from my apiaries as possible and they've considerably outperformed mine over the last 2 years!! I know he'll be smiling at that. David Perthshire > "Tim Whittingham" wrote in message > news:ImTV9.301$UM.105461@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net... > > I hear it is thought by some to be important to inform your bees of > > events in the house. In particular deaths but also marriages, births and > > the like. I have heard also that there are certain procedures for this - > > rhymes to recite, serving of wedding cake, attaching of black crepe to > > the hives for mourning. Does anyone know more? > > > > Tim W Article 33960 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: persephone736@yahoo.com (Persephone) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: NEW High IQ Science Discussion Forum Date: 17 Jan 2003 21:38:13 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 1 Message-ID: <954ecaae.0301172138.2a8960af@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.174.219.59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1042868294 26981 127.0.0.1 (18 Jan 2003 05:38:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jan 2003 05:38:14 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33960 The URL is http://www.mugu.com/upstream-list-archive/current/index.html Article 33961 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Tasmanian Leatherwood Honey Date: 18 Jan 2003 08:03:45 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 7 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0301180803.90d9f5e@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.14.167 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1042905825 7552 127.0.0.1 (18 Jan 2003 16:03:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jan 2003 16:03:45 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33961 "Tim Whittingham" wrote in message news:... > How come it tastes like the food of the gods but smells like a cow-pat? > Quite extraordinary! I never got the cow pat smell but next time I'll check for it. Leatherwood is some awesome stuff. Those folks in Mole Creek have a treasure. Article 33962 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: albert.cannon@lineone.net (albert cannon) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: propolis Date: 18 Jan 2003 09:43:26 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 19 Message-ID: <4169b71c.0301180943.629ac3ce@posting.google.com> References: <4169b71c.0301161003.c387ae7@posting.google.com> <20030116190835.08958.00000027@mb-fn.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.225.108.126 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1042911806 15117 127.0.0.1 (18 Jan 2003 17:43:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jan 2003 17:43:26 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33962 lazurus106@aol.com (Lazurus106) wrote in message news:<20030116190835.08958.00000027@mb-fn.aol.com>... > Hi, > So can you get us an ISBN or other information on it, how many pages ? > Or maybe a short review of it for us? > Cheers, > Dutch ISBN 285 63522 0 172 pages. Lots of references at the back plus a chapter on making your own medicines. I think that it is well worth a read There is a series of books called Natures remidies to which this book belongs. The edition that i have was published in 2001 by Souvenier Press 46 Great Russell Street London.wc1b 3pd. and I purchased it through Northern Bee Books. If you are interested in the medical side of bee products why not read The Gourmet Medicine by Joe Traynor (an american Publication) isdn 0-9604704-1-7 Article 33963 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: albert.cannon@lineone.net (albert cannon) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: shb Date: 21 Jan 2003 14:07:10 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 2 Message-ID: <4169b71c.0301211407.67d01deb@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.225.124.38 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1043186830 9871 127.0.0.1 (21 Jan 2003 22:07:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Jan 2003 22:07:10 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33963 any information on the small hive beetle that we in the uk may need when it gets here? Article 33964 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: paul_bilodeau1@excite.com (Paul Bilodeau) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: shb Date: 22 Jan 2003 05:19:03 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: <4169b71c.0301211407.67d01deb@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.186.164.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1043241543 15489 127.0.0.1 (22 Jan 2003 13:19:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Jan 2003 13:19:03 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33964 Hi Albert, You might want to try going to: www.beesource.com and clicking on "The Exchange" section. Browse through it and you will find some Q/A chats about Hive Beetles and many other things. Hope this helps, Paul Article 33965 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "jonathan sholar" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: news letter Lines: 4 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenetserver.com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:18:35 EST Organization: WEBUSENET.com Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:24:23 -0600 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!208.49.253.98!newsfeed.news2me.com!newshosting.com!news-xfer2.atl.newshosting.com!64.154.60.99.MISMATCH!c03.atl99!news.webusenet.com!pc01.webusenet.com!news.bellsouth.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33965 Is there a news letter to subscribe to for this group?? anyone ever hear of BEELINE?? Article 33966 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 6 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: wskriba@aol.com (WSkriba) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 24 Jan 2003 01:05:47 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: HIve Lift or Super Elevator Message-ID: <20030123200547.29807.00000343@mb-mv.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!west.cox.net!cox.net!nntp2.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m1.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33966 I was wondering if anyone on the list uses one of those super elevators like Kelley has on page 50 of there new catalog? Or has made one? would be interesting to take to my local fabricator to see if he can beat that $900 price tag. Looks like a back saver come extracting time. Bill Article 33967 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 1 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: absw@aol.com (Absw) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 24 Jan 2003 18:56:40 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: test Message-ID: <20030124135640.27095.00000413@mb-mq.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!worldnet.att.net!64.12.151.225!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m1.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33967 test Article 33968 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 1 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: absw@aol.com (Absw) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 24 Jan 2003 18:57:39 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: test Message-ID: <20030124135739.27095.00000416@mb-mq.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m1.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33968 est Article 33969 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 1 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: absw@aol.com (Absw) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 24 Jan 2003 18:58:33 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: test Message-ID: <20030124135833.27129.00000334@mb-mq.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m1.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33969 estt Article 33970 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 18 From: steven.turner@zbee.com (Steven Turner) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: RE: news letter Message-ID: <1043449622.121.1043449153@zbee.com> Distribution: world Organization: ZbeeNet computer networking for beekeepers Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 23:07:02 +0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.157.220.2 X-Complaints-To: news-admin@dircon.co.uk X-Trace: news.dircon.co.uk 1043452643 195.157.220.2 (Fri, 24 Jan 2003 23:57:23 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 23:57:23 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.esat.net!peer1.news.dircon.net!peer2.news.dircon.net!news.dircon.co.uk.POSTED!zbee.com!anonymous!steven.turner Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33970 On Jan 23, 2003 03:24pm, SHOLARJ@BELLSOUTH.NET wrote to ALL: > Is there a news letter to subscribe to for this group?? anyone ever hear > of BEELINE?? You may be interested in the Apis-UK beekeeping newsletters http://www.beedata.com/apis-uk Subscribe to the Apis-UK list for notifications Regards Steve (London Beekeeper) ... When you go in search of honey all you get is spam. Article 33971 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: ymurti@yahoo.com (Yajna) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Package bees Date: 25 Jan 2003 19:46:29 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 14 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.168.77.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1043552789 16432 127.0.0.1 (26 Jan 2003 03:46:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Jan 2003 03:46:29 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33971 My name is Yajna Murti das and I want to have some bees. I am writing you to ask if you know where I can buy Package Bees, near where I live. I live in Mathura (about 130 Km south of New Delhi) Uttar Pradesh - India. Thank You for Your attention Yours truly, Yajna Murti das Article 33972 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: ymurti@yahoo.com (Yajna) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.hobbies.beekeeping Subject: India - Package bees Date: 26 Jan 2003 16:25:00 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 6 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.168.77.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1043627100 15895 127.0.0.1 (27 Jan 2003 00:25:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Jan 2003 00:25:00 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33972 alt.hobbies.beekeeping:1022 My name is Yajna Murti das and I want to have some bees. I am writing you to ask if you know where I can buy Package Bees, near where I live. I live in Mathura (about 130 Km south of New Delhi) Uttar Pradesh - India. Thank You for Your attention Article 33973 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "The Cloete Family" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Package bees Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:46:37 +0200 Organization: The South African Internet Exchange Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ctb54-01-p115.wc.saix.net X-Trace: ctb-nnrp2.saix.net 1043703558 180 155.239.146.115 (27 Jan 2003 21:39:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@saix.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Jan 2003 21:39:18 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.telebyte.nl!teleglobe.net!ctb-nntp1.saix.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33973 Hi there Does it have to be packaged bees? Why don't you set up some trap-boxes to catch a few swarms? Brendon. "Yajna" wrote in message news:a38bc1f9.0301251946.2c32a511@posting.google.com... > My name is Yajna Murti das and I want to have some bees. I am writing > you to ask if you know where I can buy Package Bees, near where I > live. I live in Mathura (about 130 Km south of New Delhi) Uttar > Pradesh - India. > > Thank You for Your attention > > > > Yours truly, > > > > Yajna Murti das Article 33974 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 2 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: wskriba@aol.com (WSkriba) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 28 Jan 2003 03:29:07 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Buckwheat Pollination Number Message-ID: <20030127222907.20514.00000362@mb-fo.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsengine.sol.net!nntp1.roc.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m2.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33974 A friend will be raising buckwheat for seed production this year. Does anyone have info or hive/acre numbers? Article 33975 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.65.177.105 From: bjms Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Buckwheat Pollination Number Message-ID: References: <20030127222907.20514.00000362@mb-fo.aol.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 14 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 04:09:13 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.64.223.206 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news2.calgary.shaw.ca 1043726953 24.64.223.206 (Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:09:13 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:09:13 MST Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!128.230.129.106!news.maxwell.syr.edu!c03.atl99!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news2.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33975 You may want to have a read "Plants For Beekeeping In Canada" Jane Ramsay. ISBN 0-86098-191-6 A great wealth of information on the question you ask. Fagopyrum esculentum (notch seed buckwheat) can give you 25-60kg/ha cool moist conditions at flowering are best, and the bees will work all day. Hot dry weather may terminate the flow. Sooo they say. Brian On 28 Jan 2003 03:29:07 GMT, wskriba@aol.com (WSkriba) wrote: >A friend will be raising buckwheat for seed production this year. Does anyone >have info or hive/acre numbers? Article 33976 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:11:19 -0600 From: "The Rock Garden" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <20030127222907.20514.00000362@mb-fo.aol.com> Subject: Re: Buckwheat Pollination Number Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:11:41 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.85.26.58 X-Trace: sv3-hqvF6I2i7CEGYE3WzKJbE1cCBeJqfGrhyKIhcgQZjyty13GR0/yT4f+MrW/0JQl/n8/08FMtIun09ee!kxRA9PvTM/YUpwJ9UfGDEclirTkeT4ur+56003lgZ8bOZC0+GuUN+vhrqcx9s6w2 X-Complaints-To: abuse@povn.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@povn.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!cyclone.swbell.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!nntp2.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.povn.com!news.povn.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33976 "WSkriba" wrote > A friend will be raising buckwheat for seed production this year. Does anyone > have info or hive/acre numbers? see: http://www.agric.gov.ab.ca/agdex/100/118_20-2.html and http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/Crops/Buckwheat.html I can't help you with the hive/acre numbers question except that under the right conditions the nectar flow is a heavy one. Skip Skip & Christy Hensler THE ROCK GARDEN Newport, WA http://www.povn.com/rock/ Article 33977 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: steppler@cici.mb.ca (Ian) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Buckwheat Pollination Number Date: 28 Jan 2003 13:54:05 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <20030127222907.20514.00000362@mb-fo.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.56.136.27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1043790845 14429 127.0.0.1 (28 Jan 2003 21:54:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Jan 2003 21:54:05 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33977 wskriba@aol.com (WSkriba) wrote in message news:<20030127222907.20514.00000362@mb-fo.aol.com>... > A friend will be raising buckwheat for seed production this year. Does anyone > have info or hive/acre numbers? Buckwheat needs a polliantor to set seed. More hives/acre gives you a better pollinated crop. But It has to be within a certain cost to the buckwheat producer, so it depends on your pollination fee. Where one hive per acre is best, it gets a bit expensive, so most producers generaly hit the hive/five acre mark. Hive groups placed throughout the field also provides a more uniform crop pollination, but it depends on your pollination fee. Ian Article 33978 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Steve Newport Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Buckwheat Honey Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 23:22:22 +0000 Lines: 3 Message-ID: <544e3v09a138v3ln26q8sn4skuujfpu7rs@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.25.192.64 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news7.svr.pol.co.uk 1043795320 21893 62.25.192.64 (28 Jan 2003 23:08:40 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Jan 2003 23:08:40 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33978 Does anybody have buckwheat honey they are willing to send to the UK? Small quantities only Article 33979 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 7 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lazurus106@aol.com (Lazurus106) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 29 Jan 2003 00:34:28 GMT References: <544e3v09a138v3ln26q8sn4skuujfpu7rs@4ax.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Buckwheat Honey Message-ID: <20030128193428.20799.00000345@mb-fq.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!64.12.151.225!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m1.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33979 Hi, I can get you a 8 ounce plasic bear of it from my buddy and mail it to you if you can figure how to pay for it? I'm sure that postage will be more than the cost as well of will it run afoul of any export or import laws? Cheers, Dave in Madison,WI USA Article 33980 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: ymurti@yahoo.com (Yajna) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Package bees Date: 28 Jan 2003 17:53:37 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.168.77.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1043805217 1772 127.0.0.1 (29 Jan 2003 01:53:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Jan 2003 01:53:37 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33980 I did already but it is taking long time to catch. Any way thanks. "The Cloete Family" wrote in message news:... > Hi there > > Does it have to be packaged bees? Why don't you set up some trap-boxes to > catch a few swarms? > > Brendon. > > > "Yajna" wrote in message > news:a38bc1f9.0301251946.2c32a511@posting.google.com... > > My name is Yajna Murti das and I want to have some bees. I am writing > > you to ask if you know where I can buy Package Bees, near where I > > live. I live in Mathura (about 130 Km south of New Delhi) Uttar > > Pradesh - India. > > > > Thank You for Your attention > > > > > > > > Yours truly, > > > > > > > > Yajna Murti das Article 33981 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "gaetano" Newsgroups: alt.agriculture.misc,fj.soc.agriculture,free.it.agriturismo,sci.agriculture,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,sci.agriculture.fruit,uk.business.agriculture Subject: Confronto varietale di melone sotto tunnel Lines: 10 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 07:53:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.117.211.148 X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@tin.it X-Trace: news1.tin.it 1043826801 80.117.211.148 (Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:53:21 MET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:53:21 MET Organization: TIN Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!btnet-peer0!btnet!news.mailgate.org!news-out.tin.it!news-in.tin.it!news1.tin.it.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu alt.agriculture.misc:12846 fj.soc.agriculture:441 sci.agriculture:72087 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33981 sci.agriculture.fruit:4427 CONFRONTO VARIETALE DI MELONE CANTALUPO SOTTO TUNNEL Risultati conseguiti nell'annata agraria 2001-2002 Dr. Carmelo Daunisi Responsabile della S.O.P.A.T. di Naro www.lafontedelmiele.it/esa.htm Article 33982 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "éÓÔÏÍÉÎ" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,sci.agriculture.fruit,sci.agriculture.poultry,sci.agriculture.ratites Subject: ëõðéí ðáòëåô,äïóëõ,ïôäåìïþîùå íÁÔÅÒÉÁÌÙ ÉÚ ÄÅÒÅ×Á!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 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Ç.ëÉÅ×. avantag@visti.com Article 33983 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "éÓÔÏÍÉÎ" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,sci.agriculture.fruit,sci.agriculture.poultry,sci.agriculture.ratites Subject: ëÕÐÉÍ Ó\È ÐÒÏÄÕËÃÉÀ ÚÁÐÁÓÎÙÅ ÞÁÓÔÉ Ë Á×ÔÏÔÒÁËÔÏÒÎÏÊ ÔÅÈÎÉËÅ(óáèáò) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:17:17 +0300 Organization: user from ELVISTI Lines: 6 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: acc7-240.dialup.elvisti.kiev.ua X-Trace: app0.visti.net 1043828568 74180 195.64.233.240 (29 Jan 2003 08:22:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@app0.visti.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Jan 2003 08:22:48 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.kiev.sovam.com!Svitonline.COM!carrier.kiev.ua!info.elvisti.kiev.ua!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture:72089 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33983 sci.agriculture.fruit:4429 sci.agriculture.poultry:42422 sci.agriculture.ratites:1855 ïÒÇÁÎÉÚÁÃÉÑ ËÕÐÉÔ ÓÅÌØÓØËÏÈÏÚÑÊÓÔ×ÅÎÎÕÀ ÐÒÏÄÕËÃÉÀ. ïÒÇÁÎÉÚÁÃÉÑ ËÕÐÉÔ ÚÁÐÁÓÎÙÅ ÞÁÓÔÉ Ë Á×ÔÏÔÒÁËÔÏÒÎÏÊ ÔÅÈÎÉËÅ. Ç.ëÉÅ× avantag@visti.com Article 33984 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: New beekeeping software Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:00:49 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 121 Message-ID: <3e37d07a$0$154$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.249.242.8 X-Trace: 1043845242 dread16.news.tele.dk 154 195.249.242.8 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!aanews.merit.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33984 Dear Fellow beekeepers! I can't tell how many and who is using this software, but this month there have been around 450 downloads or attempts to download my software. I have also this month had about 100 downloads of a simple update to my software (the old) which indicates that some are using it. But who I can't tell because people are not writing and giving there opinions to me. But my software is living from comments, because my goal is to make a specialised software for beekeeping covering the most of the worlds beekeeping. And we are different people with our special thoughts about this business. It also seems that we have different needs even within a country. The basic for my software is the Danish hivenotecard, that has been developed since the Danish Beekeeper organisation was born more than hundred Years ago. The Swedish and Norwegian Hivenote card is very similar to the Danish card, so I decided to build the software on basic of those three countries official hivenotecards. I have also included the Swedish queen breeder card as basic for the queen entry screen. By the time the software grow from a simple hivenote card software to a very complex hivenote/Queen breeder software. Through the development I am sorry to admit that I have build in some errors, such as fighting with key violations. They are now all fixed and I have not seen a key violation on my system for the last two Years. I have now released a compilation version 6 of the software and have included some new facilities. The major is a new visual search engine that eliminates showing of my stupid Danish named fields in the database. There is also a sophisticated filter facility allowing you to filter on every field in the database. Such as if a queen is a breeding queen or not. I have also made it possible to change the fieldnames if a different field is needed and one is not of interest. About the using of supers, medium and the like I am a little in doubt. the software alows you to enter number of frames or alternativ enter the number of supers. I have only this as calculated in the database, the indexcalculation not included. Why a calculation of Index ? The reason for this possibility is to make it possible to evaluate hives against each other not only among hives in a beeyard but also hives in one beeyard against other hives in an other beeyard, based on the index for the hive generated. It also make it possible to show hives in a graphical way which is more userfrindly than just a list of data. The index is based on your judgments; This means that an Index to work demands you to evaluate your bees and give a judgment when possible. It is only four items needed + the amount of honey harvested from each hive. e.g I use the agressivity (defendness) as a parameter. This is valuated out from how many stings you could recive. Tendency to sting or Aggressively is an important issue to face. Mainly because of the extra workload and lack of comfort in the work a strong aggressiveness gives. Also is to point out that bee poison is poison. And it is wise to limit the stings receiving from the bees to a minimum, because it can happen that one suddenly is getting an allergic reaction, and thereby be forced to give up beekeeping. Some bees are very aggressive and some are very gentle to work with. The ideal is not to receive one single none provoked sting at all. The opposite is to be needed to dress full protected up 50 meters or more away from the beeyard. 5. Don't sting. Can be handled without use of smoke 4. Don't sting if moderate smoke is used 3. 1-3 stings unprovoked. 2. 4-10 stings unprovoked 1. very aggressive. Are very willing to sting. . It is also to mention that this behaviour is easy to get to a reasonable stage by simple selection among queens. But it is also a something to keep on with, because if not done the aggressively will grow up again. The same goes for the other three criteria. About the EDBi Foundation. It is not working any longer, but I decided to take over the obligations of this. That means that I will inform about new updates, and collect suggestions to the software. I will also without cost replace faultry software. The registration policy have changed a bit. The Software will be working depended of the registration. a not registration will allow full working of the software, but will get use of some nag screens when entering the software an leaving the sofware. a 45 US registration will remove the nag screens and allow full working with 40 hives. When new software is released an e-mail will be sent with information of new changes. a 100 US registration will allow full working with a unlimited number of hives. It will also trigger a CD with the newest tested software. And suggestions to the software will be taken serious into consideration. When new software is released a new CD will be send within the promised two years period. Small changes will be just a notification and an url to an update. The registration will be unlimited in time, that means it will be a one time payment. Because the EDBi foundation is not longer existing I have taken over the obligations. If you have more questions then please just ask! if you have downloaded the bidata archive then please redo the download because of the version 6 release that I have just put up. -- Best regards Jorn Johanesson visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software and other beekeeping stuff. Article 33985 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping From: Billy Subject: Re: Buckwheat Honey X-Nntp-Posting-Host: rs498032.ks.boeing.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3E37F585.DF4B3372@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (Boeing NNTP News Access) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Dew of the Plains Apiaries X-Accept-Language: en References: <544e3v09a138v3ln26q8sn4skuujfpu7rs@4ax.com> <20030128193428.20799.00000345@mb-fq.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:38:45 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; AIX 4.3) Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!cyclone.swbell.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!uunet!dfw.uu.net!ash.uu.net!xyzzy!nntp Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33985 The post office will allow you to ship honey overseas provided that it is pure honey with no other ingredients added. I shipped a squeeze bear of honey to my Uncle in Rugby, England. It took over a month to get there. Later I shipped two more bears - that time it only took a couple weeks. Billy Rock,KS > I'm sure that postage will be more than the cost as well of will it run afoul > of any export or import laws? > Cheers, > Dave in Madison,WI USA Article 33986 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Steve Newport Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Spain - Honey Co-Op Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:39:00 +0000 Lines: 5 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.136.138.218 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk 1043879117 32697 62.136.138.218 (29 Jan 2003 22:25:17 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Jan 2003 22:25:17 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.esat.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33986 Can anybody tell me if there is a honey co-op in Spain, and where I can find out about prices and regulations etc? Many thanks Steve Newport Article 33987 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: To limit dowloadcost for you! Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 02:30:16 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 24 Message-ID: <3e38801e$0$13198$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.215.97.118 X-Trace: 1043890206 dread11.news.tele.dk 13198 195.215.97.118 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!aanews.merit.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news.telebyte.nl!news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33987 Hello Fellow Beekeeprs! I have created an install that is half size of the normal install archive for you who has already downloadet the full install archive. http://apimo.dk/programs/bidataupdate.exe -- Best regards Jorn Johanesson visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software and other beekeeping stuff. Article 33988 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: To limit dowloadcost for you! Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 02:30:40 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 26 Message-ID: <3e38804a$0$13180$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.215.97.118 X-Trace: 1043890250 dread11.news.tele.dk 13180 195.215.97.118 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33988 Hello Fellow Beekeeprs! I have created an install that is half size of the normal install archive for you who has already downloadet the full install archive. http://apimo.dk/programs/bidataupdate.exe -- Best regards Jorn Johanesson visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software and other beekeeping stuff. Article 33989 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jose Matas \(Mallorca - Spain\)" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: Spain - Honey Co-Op Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 07:18:05 +0100 Lines: 23 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.73.49.224 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.73.49.224 Message-ID: <3e38c3a2@news.airtel.net> X-Trace: news.airtel.net 1043907490 212.73.49.224 (30 Jan 2003 07:18:10 +0200) Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news-out.cwix.com!pullfeed!news.airtel.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33989 About the Spanish laws looks a my page http://www.islapro.com/ecologia/abeja01.htm the paragraph is what you call the law Normas de ordenación de las explotaciones Apícolas Españolas. Real decreto 208 / 2002. Pág. 1, Pág. 2, Pág. 3, Pág. 4, Pág. 5, Pág. 6. As per co-op they are small ones, and the sames as per the prices, some mono-floral honey command a high price, the problems are imports from otuside the Euorpan Unions Best wishes Jose Matas "Steve Newport" escribió en el mensaje news:lulg3v05kgmj0bfa9r02idoeepgehcc0t1@4ax.com... > Can anybody tell me if there is a honey co-op in Spain, and where I > can find out about prices and regulations etc? > > Many thanks > Steve Newport Article 33990 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "BeeFarmer" Newsgroups: alt.hobbies.beekeeping,sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: The Ohio State University Extension & TCBA Beekeeping Workshop Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:54:47 -0500 Organization: Kids getting involved with Beekeeping Lines: 47 Message-ID: Reply-To: "BeeFarmer" NNTP-Posting-Host: rrcs-central-24-123-61-178.biz.rr.com (24.123.61.178) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1044017689 35843995 24.123.61.178 (16 [66812]) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!rrcs-central-24-123-61-178.biz.rr.COM!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu alt.hobbies.beekeeping:1024 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33990 The Ohio State University Extension & Tri-County Beekeepers' Assn Beekeeping Workshop Serving the Beekeeping Community Dear Beekeeper: The Tri-County Beekeepers' Association (TCBA) of Ohio in cooperation, with Ohio State University Extension, is planning its Twenty-Fifth Annual Beekeeping Workshop in Wooster, Ohio on Saturday, March 1, 2003. It will be held in Fisher Auditorium and the Shisler Center at the Ohio Agricultural Research and Development Center (OARDC). It is located near ST. RT. 83 (Madison Ave) just south of Wooster. This meeting has become the largest one-day workshop in the U.S. Last year there were 715 people from around Ohio and neighboring states who par-ticipated in the workshop. This year's program will consist of one keynote speaker and three workshop sessions. The three workshop sessions will have six different breakout topics. One of the breakout topics in each of the three sessions will be a beginner beekeeping session. These sessions are designed to teach some of the very basics of beekeeping. Also, a new kids session has been added to each of the three workshop sessions. These are open to kids 5 - 12 years old and will offer a variety of bee related activities. The workshop opens at 8:00 a.m. with registration from 8:00-9:00 a.m. and ending at 4:00 p.m. Following the close of our meeting The Ohio State University, Beekeeping Museum will be open for tours until 5:00 p.m. Below is a tentative schedule for the Saturday meeting. You can download the TCBA Registration Workshop packet at http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html -- OhioBeeFarmer Getting kids involved in Beekeeping http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/BeesRUs.html http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html Article 33990 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "BeeFarmer" Newsgroups: alt.hobbies.beekeeping,sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: The Ohio State University Extension & TCBA Beekeeping Workshop Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:54:47 -0500 Organization: Kids getting involved with Beekeeping Lines: 47 Message-ID: Reply-To: "BeeFarmer" NNTP-Posting-Host: rrcs-central-24-123-61-178.biz.rr.com (24.123.61.178) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1044017689 35843995 24.123.61.178 (16 [66812]) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!rrcs-central-24-123-61-178.biz.rr.COM!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu alt.hobbies.beekeeping:1024 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:33990 The Ohio State University Extension & Tri-County Beekeepers' Assn Beekeeping Workshop Serving the Beekeeping Community Dear Beekeeper: The Tri-County Beekeepers' Association (TCBA) of Ohio in cooperation, with Ohio State University Extension, is planning its Twenty-Fifth Annual Beekeeping Workshop in Wooster, Ohio on Saturday, March 1, 2003. It will be held in Fisher Auditorium and the Shisler Center at the Ohio Agricultural Research and Development Center (OARDC). It is located near ST. RT. 83 (Madison Ave) just south of Wooster. This meeting has become the largest one-day workshop in the U.S. Last year there were 715 people from around Ohio and neighboring states who par-ticipated in the workshop. This year's program will consist of one keynote speaker and three workshop sessions. The three workshop sessions will have six different breakout topics. One of the breakout topics in each of the three sessions will be a beginner beekeeping session. These sessions are designed to teach some of the very basics of beekeeping. Also, a new kids session has been added to each of the three workshop sessions. These are open to kids 5 - 12 years old and will offer a variety of bee related activities. The workshop opens at 8:00 a.m. with registration from 8:00-9:00 a.m. and ending at 4:00 p.m. Following the close of our meeting The Ohio State University, Beekeeping Museum will be open for tours until 5:00 p.m. Below is a tentative schedule for the Saturday meeting. You can download the TCBA Registration Workshop packet at http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html -- OhioBeeFarmer Getting kids involved in Beekeeping http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/BeesRUs.html http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html