start Article 8774 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!fddisunsite.oit.unc.edu!usenet From: adamf@fddisunsite.oit.unc.edu (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bee skyscraper Date: 30 Jun 1997 23:21:43 -0400 Organization: SunSITE UNC-CH Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5p9t47$fdl@fddisunsite.oit.unc.edu> References: <33B7B93A.5414@ultranet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: fddisunsite.oit.unc.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8774 In article <33B7B93A.5414@ultranet.com>, Marc Andelman wrote: >How many deep supers can you put on, and how many >should you out on? > >Thank you >Marc The more room a *strong* colony has the more it produces if there is a good flow on. I've got some with six deeps above the brood chamber. Adam -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Adam Finkelstein Internet Apiculture and Beekeeping Archive adamf@sunsite.unc.edu http://www.sunsite.unc.edu/bees Article 8775 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!zetnet.co.uk!btnet-feed1!BTInternet!usenet From: "Peter Barrett" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Beekeeping by Ron Brown - book sought Date: 29 Jun 1997 20:22:23 GMT Organization: BT Internet Message-ID: <01bc84ca$2449ae40$a83563c3@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: host5-99-53-168.btinternet.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Lines: 8 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8775 I am trying to obtain a copy of "Beekeeping - a seasonal guide" by Ron Brown publisher Batsford I think this is now out of print. Any assistance appreciated. Regards, Pete pete.barrett@btinternet.com Article 8776 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!europa.clark.net!ais.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!147.81.244.14!newsreader.read.tasc.com!usenet From: Rick Hough Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: BEE-L Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 13:33:35 -0500 Organization: TASC, Inc. Lines: 14 Message-ID: <33B7FBFE.1DDE@tasc.com> References: <33a8364c.27959467@news.iserv.net> <19970629224500.SAA02690@ladder02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: rshough@tasc.com NNTP-Posting-Host: rhough.read.tasc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; U; PPC) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8776 EShel95313 wrote: [clip] > While I am here, is there an online chat facility for beekeepers around > here anywhere? If you have a Java-enabled web browser, you can use the new chat room set up at http://www.widtech.com/beechat/ It is a new room, so I have not met many folks there - maybe I'm just visiting when everyone else is out foraging...... According to the introductory webpage, there will be a special guest chatting on July 1st - check the URL above for details. Rick Hough, rshough@tasc.com keeping bees just NE of Boston.... Article 8777 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!192.108.254.3!news.teleport.com!not-for-mail From: Paul Cauthorn Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: wtb: Extractor - Eugene, OR Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 21:42:55 -0700 Organization: Cascadia Hop Company Lines: 9 Message-ID: <33B88ACF.2419@teleport.com> Reply-To: pbc@teleport.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-eug1-24.teleport.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8777 Hello, I'm intersted in finding an inexpensive used 2 or 4 frame extractor. Thanks, Paul Cauthorn Eugene, OR USA Article 8778 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!demos!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!192.108.254.3!news.teleport.com!not-for-mail From: Paul Cauthorn Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: wtb: bottom boards - Eugene, OR Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 21:44:50 -0700 Organization: Cascadia Hop Company Lines: 7 Message-ID: <33B88B42.48FA@teleport.com> Reply-To: pbc@teleport.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-eug1-24.teleport.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8778 Hello, Does anybody in the Eugene area have any extra bottom boards? Paul Cauthorn Eugene, OR 541-342-7206 Article 8779 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!tomsp8.demon.co.uk!tomsp8.demon.co.uk!tom From: Tom Speight Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bee Tree Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 20:36:00 +0100 Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: tomsp8.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: tomsp8.demon.co.uk [194.222.124.95] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Newsreader: Turnpike (evaluation) Version 3.02 Lines: 26 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8779 On Friday 27th June, Joe Kent and I were called by the Parks Department, to a colony in a tree that was about to be felled on Abbey Road, (the main road into Barrow). I was late and arrived just as Joe was going up in a crane hoist. The parks gardener had already cut the top off the tree and had missed to comb at the top of the colony by about 3 inches (75mm). There were bees everywhere. The crane lorry was bright yellow, and covered with bees. Joe and the attendant gardener were peering into the hole without benefit of veils or any protective wear. After much discussion on where to place the bottom cut, and whether to split the trunk open, the bole was cut through about three feet lower down, Again not missing the bees by much. Looking up into the bottom of the hole, the bees were in a cluster about the size of a football. Naturally, we couldn't see how far up the hole the cluster went although there were bees on the top comb. After lowering the section of trunk onto their wagon, the Parks Dept, delivered it to Joe's home - fortunately not far away. This was preferred to splitting it on the site and having the public worried by all the bees that would suddenly become homeless. The log has now become a ‘hive’ and has a super placed above it for the large docile colony to fill. It is not known how long they had been in the tree, but the nest was certainly a lage one. From the whiteness of the comb, it could be a swarm from earlier in the year. -- Tom Speight Turnpike evaluation. For information, see http://www.turnpike.com/ Article 8780 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.icanect.net!pandora.digitaladvantage.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-in.iadfw.net!news-f.iadfw.net!usenet From: busykngt@airmail.net (BusyKnight) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: BeeChat Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 09:58:19 GMT Organization: INTERNET AMERICA Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5B97840CA96EC7E4.4A948A2AD297C3D0.EF5B84646C0B8FAF@library-proxy.airnews.net> X-Orig-Message-ID: <5parsk$7mn@library.airnews.net> References: <33B8CCD0.579F@his.com> Reply-To: busykngt@mail.airmail.net NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Host: dal13-30.ppp.iadfw.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8780 John Alexander wrote: > you will >need to have a 32 bit operating system (Win 95, OS/2, UNIX, etc) and a >java enabled browser That should help to keep all us "riff-raft" with only 16 bit machines outta yore hair... 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Article 8782 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.new-york.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-in.iadfw.net!news-f.iadfw.net!usenet From: busykngt@airmail.net (BusyKnight) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: honey Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 08:46:12 GMT Organization: INTERNET AMERICA Lines: 8 Message-ID: X-Orig-Message-ID: <5p9kqh$ufu@library.airnews.net> References: <19970630135701.JAA14932@ladder01.news.aol.com> Reply-To: busykngt@mail.airmail.net NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Host: gw2-ppp71.its.iadfw.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8782 dianajudd@aol.com (DianaJudd) wrote: >Please could you advise me on the healing properties of honey as. What >specific illness or allergies is it good for? Honey is a food (only). Article 8783 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!204.71.16.13!newsfeed.sover.net!not-for-mail From: "Samuel Allen" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Some thoughts on pathogens Date: 1 Jul 1997 13:56:47 GMT Organization: SoVerNet, Inc. Lines: 25 Message-ID: <01bc8626$3cb67140$724219ce@Whatever.sover.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm0a14.mid.sover.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1160 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8783 Some Thoughts About Pathogens: Both American and European Foulbrood are bacteria. Nosema apis is a protozoan. Sacbrood is a virus, and Chalkbrood is a fungus. What about Grapefruit seed extract? It is a proven anti- protozoan, anti-viral, anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, and it is non-toxic, quickly biodegradable, and is effective in extremely low concentrations. I feel extremely confident that GSE will help, and MAYBE it's the answer to the question of survival for honey bees. What I don't know is the best method for delivery. Spray the hive all over with a dilute liquid? Make powder form available to bees? Make a sweetened patty as is currently done with teramycin? The liquid concentrate retains a somewhat bitter, citrus flavor, even when diluted. It probably should not be applied during honey flow for that reason. I would like to have some help from a few experienced beekeepers. What do you think? Thanks. Article 8784 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!205.232.174.12!node2.frontiernet.net!news.his.com!news3.his.com!usenet From: John Alexander Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: BeeChat Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 05:24:32 -0400 Organization: Heller Information Services, Inc. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <33B8CCD0.579F@his.com> Reply-To: jdalexa@his.com NNTP-Posting-Host: jdalexa.his.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8784 A reminder to all that tonight, 1 July 97 at 8:00 PM EST, BeeChat will host Dr. Pedro Rodriguez. Dr. Rodrigues recently published his findings on research into the use of mineral oil for the control of Varroa mites. BeeChat is a real-time java-based chat program and as such, you will need to have a 32 bit operating system (Win 95, OS/2, UNIX, etc) and a java enabled browser (Netscape, Internet Explorer). Join BeeChat and Dr. Rodrigues tonight at 8:00 PM EST. http://www.widtech.com/beechat/ Article 8785 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!demos!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!vtaix.cc.vt.edu!adamf From: adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Some thoughts on pathogens Date: 1 Jul 1997 18:09:40 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5pbh54$an4$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <01bc8626$3cb67140$724219ce@Whatever.sover.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: vtaix.cc.vt.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8785 In article <01bc8626$3cb67140$724219ce@Whatever.sover.net>, Samuel Allen wrote: >I feel extremely confident that GSE will help, and MAYBE it's the answer to >the >question of survival for honey bees. Perhaps, but what if it's toxic to insects? Test it on a small colony and see what it does to the bees. Observe their behavior, and if they seem non the worse, maybe test more colonies. How will you figure out active ingredient/hive concentration? What is the active ingredient in GSE that is so effective? Maybe that should be tested too? Adam -- _________________ Adam Finkelstein adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu http://sunsite.unc.edu/bees/adamf Article 8786 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!uunet!in3.uu.net!194.162.162.196!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!bellman.NSD.3Com.COM!news.erg.sri.com!news.sri.com!hplabs!hplntx!cello.hpl.hp.com!col.hp.com!fc.hp.com!hird From: hird@fc.hp.com (Steve Hird) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Queen Problem Date: 1 Jul 1997 14:03:42 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5pb2nu$fbn@fcnews.fc.hp.com> Reply-To: hird@fc.hp.REMOVE.com NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.fc.hp.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2.10] Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8786 I need some help with a bee problem. I live along the Colorado front range, and am new to bee keeping. I got some bees nine weeks ago. Mail order package bees. At five weeks things looked good. Queen laying in a good pattern, about one 10" frame worth of sealed worker brood. At six weeks most of the the brood had been born. Now at nine weeks very little sealed brood just a few drone cells here and there and about 1/3 of my bee population is drones. The overall worker bee population is down significantly. I searched the hive (mid day when the workers were out) and could not find the queen. Does this mean the queen is a drone layer or did the hive maybe swarm, and leave about half the bees behind? The only reason I can think of for them having swarmed is starvation, as overcrowding was not even close. I can't guess if there is good forage material because we live on the edge of the foothills and there is a great degree of biodiversity (always something in bloom but never lots of it). I fed them syrup all the time except for about a one week period around the six week after I got them when they went for a week with out much syrup. The queen seemed to start OK. I ordered a new queen. This is my only hive so I can't supplement the new queen with new brood. Will the new queen be accepted? How should I ensure that the old queen is gone? Thanks in Advance. Steve Hird Article 8787 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: smokey Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Royal Jelly Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 14:10:29 -0700 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 3 Message-ID: <33B97245.595E@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Reply-To: goomba@worldnet.att.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.116.35.60 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-WorldNet (Win16; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8787 What is Royal Jelly? How do you go about getting it out of the Hive? Just wondering!! Article 8788 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!purdue!news.bu.edu!ppp-95-21.bu.edu!user From: iraseski@xensei.com (Ira Seskin) X-Sender: anncat@bu.edu Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Swarm & Queen Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 22:04:14 -0500 Organization: ira_seskin@bmugbos.org Lines: 50 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-95-21.bu.edu Reply-To: anncat@bu.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8788 Strange season, not that I have had any other to compare it to. My bees swarmed. I guess they didnt like their new home, all the good treats I provided, fresh water etc. Anyway , I didnt think I could do it, but I captured the swarm. Queen with it. Problem is, she got..er.. underfoot while I was transporting the branch. Real underfoot. Squashed by my Rebock's underfoot. I dumped them back into my hive ( I only have one, and didnt expect then to swarm in their first few months when starting with package bees) quickly added two supers to give the bees more room, and they have decided to stay for now, no doubt because they were queenless. Do I buy a new queen, or let them do the work, or does anyone think they wouldn't have left unless there were some queen cells already started? Local beekeepers told me to leave the hive ..er... be ( bee?) for a few weeks. Local Bee Inspector ( real friendly and helpful said the same thing on the phone and said in a couple of weeks he willl come over my house and open the hive and check it for a new queen. Should I wait? Thoughts? -I- -- /| __ / | ,-~ / Y :| // / | jj /( .^ >-"~"-v" /^ ^ Y /o o | ( ~T~ j >._-' _./ I'm / "~" | Having A Bad Y _, | HARE /| ;-"~ _ l Day / l/ ,-"~ \ \//\/ .- \ Y / Y > ) l I ! > ]\ _\ /"\ (" ~----( ~ Y. ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ->Bugs the Wonder Bunny<- ira_seskin@bmugbos.org (e- mail only... no attachments) iraseski@xensei.com (e-mail when sending attachements) http://www.xensei.com/users/iraseski "Live Free or Die" Article 8789 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!newsin.iconnet.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.com!chi-news.cic.net!207.33.1.6!news.he.net!news.rain.net!news.teleport.com!not-for-mail From: Paul Cauthorn Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Royal Jelly Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 21:46:47 -0700 Organization: Cascadia Hop Company Lines: 24 Message-ID: <33B9DD37.4F21@teleport.com> References: <33B97245.595E@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Reply-To: pbc@teleport.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-eug1-14.teleport.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) To: goomba@worldnet.att.net Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8789 smokey wrote: > > What is Royal Jelly? How do you go about getting it out of the Hive? > > Just wondering!! From what I've gathered from talking to Dr. Burgett and reading a couple references, royal jelly is collected from the hives through a process similar to queen rearing. I'm sure I probably missing a few details, so I'd appreciate any corrections. Royal jelly, a substance excreted from worker bees heads, is a substance fed to the queen larvae. Queenless colonies are given frames of grafted queen cells. After 4 days these frames of cells are removed and the royal jelly is sucked out of the cells. The frames are then regrafted and then replaced in the hives. Burgett says that it requires 3 to 5 colonies to maintain one royal jelly colony in constant production. The process is very labor intensive. I would really like to hear from someone who is actually involved in the production of royal jelly. Paul Cauthorn Eugene, OR Article 8790 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.74.141.7!zinger.callamer.com!not-for-mail From: "OLd Drone" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Hornets Attack Boy Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 21:32:17 -0700 Organization: Call America Internet Services +1 (800) 563-3271 Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5pclnb$pga$1@zinger.callamer.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: n3-102-166.thegrid.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8790 Killer Bee News, this time it's hornets and not our honeybees. http://www,msnbc.com/localWTVJ/6.htm Out here on the left coast the FOX network is running a killer honeybee flick. Tried to watch it but after about ten I had my limit and opt out for PBS special on how we stole all the water from the Colorado River by building Hover Dam and sending the water to LA. Maybe its time we follow the leadership of the Brits and gave California back to Spain, at least half of todays population would share a almost common language and they could turn the clock back and dry up the land by releasing all the water in our dams into the rivers for the benifit of all nature, less man... My own bet is that it would matter not who we gave California to they would soon build more dams to grow bigger cities and more crops. Its only in California USA that the main irrigation pumps are shut down because last year about 70 two inch Smelt, (a small fish that is food for bigger fish), were sucked into the pump screens and resulted in killing 20 or so over the limit allowed by the EPA. Since the pumps were not shut down last year they were this year, the result 10% less water for irrigation of crops already planted. This year less then the 50 allowable Smelt were killed by the three humungus pumps that stand idle during the peak of the irrigation season. The government cares so much for doing whats right about Smelt its just too bad they would not do the same for our honeybees that contine to be slatered by the millions each day by the regulated, legal, misuse of pesticides blessed by the EPA and protected by everyone in goverment from the top to the lowest paid grunt.. ttul, the OLd Drone beta test of Compose by NetScape IMHO, Opinions are just that... Article 8791 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: n4ssd@aol.com (N4ssd) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Swarm & Queen Date: 2 Jul 1997 05:11:56 GMT Lines: 21 Message-ID: <19970702051101.BAA21078@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8791 In article , iraseski@xensei.com (Ira Seskin) writes: >Do I buy a new queen, or let them do the work, or does anyone think they >wouldn't have left unless there were some queen cells already started? >Local beekeepers told me to leave the hive ..er... be ( bee?) for a few >weeks. If it were me, and I had access to a fresh new queen...I think I would requeen as soon as I could. If the hive does indeed have queen cells, the queenless bees may raise their own queen, and so your friends advice to wait could work. There will probably be several different opinions on this as well as approaches. But if it were my hive, I would purchase a new queen and install asap. Good luck with your bees! Fred B. Hembree, Jr. n4ssd@aol.com Article 8792 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.74.141.7!zinger.callamer.com!not-for-mail From: andy.nachbaur@calwest.net (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Hornets Attack Boy Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 22:30:46 -0700 Organization: Wild Bee's BBS Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <5pclnb$pga$1@zinger.callamer.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: n1-103-51.thegrid.net X-Newsreader: Anawave Gravity v1.10 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8792 In article <5pclnb$pga$1@zinger.callamer.com>, andy.nachbaur@calwest.net says... > Killer Bee News, this time it's hornets and not our honeybees. > correction: http://www.msnbc.com/local/WTVJ/6.htm > http://www,msnbc.com/localWTVJ/6.htm > > > Article 8793 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.74.141.7!zinger.callamer.com!not-for-mail From: andy.nachbaur@calwest.net (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Hornets Attack Boy Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 23:18:14 -0700 Organization: Wild Bee's BBS Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <5pclnb$pga$1@zinger.callamer.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: n1-103-51.thegrid.net X-Newsreader: Anawave Gravity v1.10 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8793 In article , andy.nachbaur@calwest.net says... > In article <5pclnb$pga$1@zinger.callamer.com>, andy.nachbaur@calwest.net > says... > > Killer Bee News, this time it's hornets and not our honeybees. > > > correction: > > http://www.msnbc.com/local/WTVJ/6.htm > > > http://www,msnbc.com/localWTVJ/6.htm Better yet, correction on correction: http://www.msnbc.com/local/WTVJ/11.HTM Sorry about that, but perfection is not in my natural order of things. Article 8794 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp.sprintmail.com!nntp.sprintmail.com!news@sprintmail.com From: Jon Iverson Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queen Problem Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 04:16:16 -0700 Organization: Poulsbo, Washington - "Little Norway" Lines: 85 Message-ID: <33BA3880.288F@sprintmail.com> References: <5pb2nu$fbn@fcnews.fc.hp.com> Reply-To: joniverson@sprintmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: sdn-ts-006wapoulp15.dialsprint.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) To: hird@fc.hp.com Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8794 Steve Hird wrote: > > I need some help with a bee problem. > > I live along the Colorado front range, and am new to bee keeping. I > got some bees nine weeks ago. Mail order package bees. > > At five weeks things looked good. Queen laying in a good pattern, > about one 10" frame worth of sealed worker brood. > > At six weeks most of the the brood had been born. > > Now at nine weeks very little sealed brood just a few drone cells here and > there and about 1/3 of my bee population is drones. The overall > worker bee population is down significantly. > I searched the hive (mid day when the workers were out) and could not find > the queen. > Does this mean the queen is a drone layer or did the hive maybe swarm, and > leave about half the bees behind? The only reason I can think of for them > having swarmed is starvation, as overcrowding was not even close. I can't > guess if there is good forage material because we live on the edge of the > foothills and there is a great degree of biodiversity (always something in > bloom but never lots of it). I fed them syrup all the time except > for about a one week period around the six week after I got them when > they went for a week with out much syrup. > The queen seemed to start OK. I ordered a new queen. > This is my only hive so I can't supplement the new queen with new brood. > Will the new queen be accepted? How should I ensure that the old queen > is gone? > > Thanks in Advance. > > Steve Hird Swarming will reduce the population and if I suspected I had a drone layer, I would re-queen. You should get a new hatch every 21 days. Some queens can be hard to find but you must find her if you are going to re-queen. Just look for the area the she has been laying. She won't be on the capped brood and there is a saying around here that "a queen won't walk across honey". She will be close to where the fresh eggs have been layed. Be sure to check the first couple frames and set them on the ground leaning against something and don't let the one you check get close to the ones you haven't checked yet or she may run to a checked frame. If you have two brood boxes, check the top one first and then check the bottom one. I just went thru a re-queening on two hives. No assurance that it will work 100% of the time by anyone. I was successful this time on the two hives I did. I used liberal (not excessive) smoke. Assasinated the old queens and removed them from the area. Placed the queen cages between the brood frames in the lower hive body. You may have to remove one frame to get it in. I had an outer frame in each hive that wasn't drawn out and I just set in on the ground leaning against its respective hive until I could put it back in. Be sure the candy plug can be accessed by the workers in the hive. Be patient ! The worker bees will eat the candy out and release the queen. I may take them 24 - 36 hrs to do it but let them do it even if it takes 48 hrs. One other school of thought is to squash the old queen and smear her on the new queen cage. This will mask the new queen's scent and make her more acceptable. I did it without doing the later. It is said that the older the bees, the larger the population, the less likely the hive will accept the new queen. Both my hives were new packages this year (April) but they got nasty attitudes for some reason. In just one week, the new queens have already calmed both hives down. Be sure to vent your hives if it gets too warm. Here ib the Puget Sound area, we can vent all year. You can make a shallow box to fit on top of your hive bodies or supers (1x3 or 1x4) and drill a hole to put a 1" house vent (siding vent) in the back side (opposite the entrance) and then if it gets real cold in the winter, remove it for the winter. The vent will reduce one of the reasons for swarming. Good Luck Hope this gets to you. I assume I need to take out the REMOVE in your email address. Article 8795 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk!fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk!Clayton From: Clayton Smith Newsgroups: alt.non.sequitur,alt.tv.simpsons,alt.tv.simpsons.itchy-scratchy,soc.culture.mexican,soc.culture.mexican.american,soc.culture.spain,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.music.korn,alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.fan.ok-soda,alt.genius.bill-palmer Subject: What bumblebee are we talking about? Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 18:37:07 +0100 Organization: Civacon-OPW Distribution: world Message-ID: <1KuXRKBDHpuzIwre@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> References: <5ocjt2$24e@news.enter.net> <33c2d5aa.11853803@news.enter.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk [194.222.221.91] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <5KoCwp8X5vsH4kTvzYrR2js3bn> Lines: 24 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu alt.non.sequitur:16676 alt.tv.simpsons:175154 alt.tv.simpsons.itchy-scratchy:3831 soc.culture.mexican:82537 soc.culture.mexican.american:26132 soc.culture.spain:150978 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8795 alt.music.korn:1477 alt.fan.karl-malden.nose:67371 alt.fan.ok-soda:3727 In article , Martin Bulmer writes >In article <33c2d5aa.11853803@news.enter.net>, Phil Oliver AMBLOCKbiosys.net> writes >>On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:09:21 -0400, Clint Walsh >> wrote: >> >>>He already has his own show on Channel Ocho. >> >>I don't get Channel Ocho. >> >>-Phil Oliver >>----- >>"I'm mean if you going to be hypocrite like the rest of us >>just admit you posturing potser." - Ruwan Jayatilleke, in >> > >I don't get Channel Ocho. I don't get any channels. I'm in England! HAHAHAHAHAHAH...a -- Clayton Smith (Encore on IRC) Clayton@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk Whoever gave us opinions caused a lot of aggravation... Article 8796 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!demos!news-out.communique.net!communique!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ix.netcom.com!news From: toltec@ix.netcom.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Royal Jelly Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 14:16:09 +0100 Organization: Netcom Lines: 62 Message-ID: <33BA5499.3E8F@ix.netcom.com> References: <33B97245.595E@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> <33B9DD37.4F21@teleport.com> Reply-To: toltec@ix.netcom.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lax-ca24-06.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Jul 02 2:21:17 PM PDT 1997 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) To: pbc@teleport.com Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8796 > > What is Royal Jelly? How do you go about getting it out of the Hive? > > Just wondering!! > From http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3872/ Royal Jelly Royal jelly is a glandular secretion of young workers that is placed in queen cells as a food for larval queens. It is called royal jelly because it is the sole food of queen larvae. It appears that the composition of royal jelly remains relatively constant over different colonies, bee strains and time. Some variations can occur as a result of nutritional and age conditions of the secreting worker bees, and care of collection/care of storage of the royal jelly. The components with greatest variations in gross composition are probably the sugars, mainly because workers add different amounts of sugar to royal jelly depending upon the age of the queen larva. Vitamins are present in royal jelly in varying amounts. Levels of the B vitamins in royal jelly are generally high. Otherwise vitamins are in low to very low levels. A wide variety of health and cosmetic properties have been attributed to royal jelly over the years. Nevertheless, no well designed controlled medical studies have demonstrated therapeutic effects for royal jelly. The most promising antibacterial and textural potential for royal jelly are as a topical cream with both cosmetic and antimicrobial action. Royal jelly also has potential as a dietary ingredient in both human foods and for animals. Royal jelly is usually produced in colonies maintained for that purpose. The queen is removed and a frame containing artificial queen cells, each with a 12-36 hour old worker larva is inserted. Three days later the frame is removed, the larvae discarded and the royal jelly collected either with a wooden spoon or a soft suction tube. A good queen cup will yield about 200-300 mg of royal jelly. Once collected the royal jelly can be stored in a tight container in the refrigerator for several months, frozen or freeze dried until used. The main markets in the U.S. and Europe for royal jelly are the cosmetic industry which uses royal jelly in moisturizing and skin cream as well as a variety of other products, and the health food market. The antibacterial, cleansing and textural properties of royal jelly likely account for its popularity in cosmetics. In the health food market royal jelly is often added as a supplement to other ingredients and vitamins which can be taken either as capsules, as parts of beverages, in confectionaries or mixed with honey as a spread. Royal jelly has a much larger market in Asia than in the U.S. or Europe. In Asia it is commonly found in products including cosmetics, food supplements and beverages and is used in the medical profession. In the U.S., royal jelly can be purchased for about US$6 per ounce (28 g) in 2 ounce containers. This adds up to about US$214 per kg. The largest producers of royal jelly are China, Japan and Korea. Annual production levels in China have been 220-360 metric tonnes. However, it can expected that the production levels in China have increased as a result of a huge increase in the production of honey and other products of the hive. Japan is both a large producer and importer of royal jelly. Article 8797 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!uunet!in3.uu.net!128.230.129.112!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kiva.net!not-for-mail From: mbenton@ansel.intersource.com (Mark Benton) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Help me identify odd bee Date: 3 Jul 1997 01:50:06 GMT Organization: Kiva Networking Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5pf0ge$o3o$1@gretle.intersource.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: xyplex1-2-11.kiva.net Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.14 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8797 Are there any good resources on the net to help one indentify and learn about bees? I have some burrowing bees in my back yard, they are small, about honey-bee sized, mostly black and yellow, abdomen kind of flat. They happened to nest right under my 10 month olds swing, and I need to know if they could be dangerous to him. thanks, Mark Benton mbenton@kiva.net mbenton@harman.com Article 8798 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!uunet!in2.uu.net!198.207.169.10!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wildbee!andy.nachbaur From: andy.nachbaur@beenet.com (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Plastic foundation Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:57:00 GMT Message-ID: <9707021950292124@beenet.com> Organization: WILD BEE'S BBS (209) 826-8107 LOS BANOS, CA Distribution: world References: <5hc6br$a72@nntp.pe.net> Lines: 71 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8798 FYI* Another view on plastic foundation. ---------------------------------------- From: Tim Townsend Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 14:50:01 -0700 Subject: Re: Plastic foundation Organization: TPLR Honey Farms Andy Nachbaur wrote: > > MG>From: Mark Goodwin > >Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 14:10:07 +1200 > >Subject: Plastic foundation > >Organization: HortResearch,Ruakura,NZ > > MG>Does anyone have a reference for a scientific paper comparing the > >performance of plastic foundation and wax foundation. > > Hello Mark, > > I am sure that there are some and hope someone will forward them to you. > > But from experience in beekeeping testing, and most beekeepers this area > use rigid plastic foundations not because it is more better for the bees > but because it is stronger and holds up well with mechanical uncapping > machines and very fast radial extractors, and is not labor intensive to > install in the wooden frames. Anyway in beekeeper field testing the bees > always preferred wax foundation over wax covered plastic film > foundations, or rigid plastic foundations with or without bees wax > coatings. All one has to do is put on foundation during a honey flow > with the wax foundations, and the plastic together to see the > difference. > Andy; I had to respond to this post as I don't agree with it :), not because I am the Canadian dealer for Pierco, but because I am a beekeeper and have been using plastic for about five years now, in large amounts, we also talk to alot of beekeepers here in Canada and abroad that use plastic foundation or one piece units, and the general concenses is that as long as the bees are in good shape and on a flow they draw out the plastic very well, even in side by side tests ( done by two agriculture field men in Alberta and British Columbia) the results do NOT show a preference for wax over plastic. Some of the advantages of plastic over wax are: 1. Removal of undesired comb, ie. drone or intermediary, is possible without damaging the frame. 2. The queens lay in the plastic sooner than the wax (I don't know why)but we have seen it as have others, the first frames of brood in the spring are nine times out of ten on the plastic frames. 3. Can remove the old wax and end up with a totally new reusable frame, (would be quite benificial in Europe now with the wax being tainted). 4. More cell space per frame ( pierco one piece units) nine frames can equal ten. 5. Stand up much better to the extracing, moving, wax moth, mice, beekeepers, and even bears. 6. Also with the one piece units the frames are the exact size, so all the equipment is the same, unlike wood frames which you know come in a wide variety of sizes. 7. Ease of assemblage and storability, not damaged if you are unable to use them this season. They don't do everything, but they are an improvement over wood, especially for the commercial operator. I also believe that even the hobbiest's would be surprised and happy with them in there hives. But like excluders, they aren't for everybody. Tim Townsend Stony Plain AB Canada --- þ QMPro 1.53 þ http://194.112.46.22/public/default.htm (Amigabee BBS) Article 8800 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!newsfeed.cv.nrao.edu!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!131.103.1.114!chi-news.cic.net!robin.theramp.net!not-for-mail From: Barry Birkey Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Help me identify odd bee Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 21:28:57 +0000 Organization: Birkey.Com Lines: 25 Message-ID: <33BAC819.7D1A@birkey.com> References: <5pf0ge$o3o$1@gretle.intersource.com> Reply-To: barry@birkey.com NNTP-Posting-Host: nap-ip-124.theramp.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) To: Mark Benton Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8800 Mark Benton wrote: > > Are there any good resources on the net to help one indentify and learn > about bees? I have some burrowing bees in my back yard, they are small, > about honey-bee sized, mostly black and yellow, abdomen kind of flat. > They happened to nest right under my 10 month olds swing, and I need to > know if they could be dangerous to him. > > thanks, > > Mark Benton > > mbenton@kiva.net > mbenton@harman.com > > Look at: http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/academic/agriculture/entomology/beekeeping/general/ under yellow jackets. -- Barry Birkey West Chicago, Illinois USA barry@birkey.com http://www.birkey.com Article 8801 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!198.207.169.10!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wildbee!andy.nachbaur From: andy.nachbaur@beenet.com (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: BeeChat Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 02:46:00 GMT Message-ID: <9707021950292125@beenet.com> Organization: WILD BEE'S BBS (209) 826-8107 LOS BANOS, CA Distribution: world References: <33B8CCD0.579F@his.com> Lines: 68 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8801 JA>From: John Alexander >Subject: BeeChat GOOD TIME had by all in spite of a few technical problems. Hope to see more of these scheduled CHATS. Dr. Rodriguez did a good job answering questions on his work with MO and Varroa. One BEE BYTE of NEWS passed on by a LA beekeeper, (not LA Calif.) was that the Russian bees (queens) have invaded the United States and are being kept at a secret base on a island off the coast of LA. Well maybe it is a just a quarantine station or something... It is hoped this new genetic material from Eastern Europe will add varroa resistance to our bees as they are reported to kill all but 10% more or less of their varroa. Lots of ruck, but one has to really be a believer that the varroa mites themselves are or can kill off hives full of healthy bees and that has never been demonstrated by beekeepers or science and if it is a combination of conditions linked with one or more virus and other environmental concerns then bees that can tolerate 10% varroa will be no less subject to traumatic collapse sooner or later. But we all should welcome new stock in any case as even a small addition to the honeybee gene base in America is better then nothing but I fear that a few or a few hundred hand picked by any beekeeper or a closed group of beekeepers will prove to be no more that what the USDA Bee Research has given us in the past. All should remember the experience of the Brazilian beekeepers with African Bees imported by one of the top graduates of the University of California Beekeeping school under the best scientific controls. I don't believe this would have happened if many real experienced beekeepers were allowed to pick their own stock. Not to say the judgement of many can not be faulty but I can assure you that a real queen breeders looks at stock selection a lot different then the scientist and does it every day of the bee season and not just on expense paid vacation trips to Timbuktu. It is about time that like Canada we in the USA open our boarders to greater bee importations and try to get a step ahead of nature who everyday is providing us with new genetic material from south of our own boarders. ttul, the OLd Drone (c) Permission is granted to freely copy this document in any form, or to print for any use. (w)Opinions are not necessarily facts. Use at own risk. JA>A reminder to all that tonight, 1 July 97 at 8:00 PM EST, BeeChat will >host Dr. Pedro Rodriguez. Dr. Rodrigues recently published his findings >on research into the use of mineral oil for the control of Varroa mites. JA>BeeChat is a real-time java-based chat program and as such, you will >need to have a 32 bit operating system (Win 95, OS/2, UNIX, etc) and a >java enabled browser (Netscape, Internet Explorer). JA>Join BeeChat and Dr. Rodrigues tonight at 8:00 PM EST. JA>http://www.widtech.com/beechat/ --- þ QMPro 1.53 þ Let the honey flow!!!!! Article 8802 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!206.250.118.17!nntp.earthlink.net!max1-np-ca-07.earthlink.net!user From: paul@eisusa.com (Paul Nicholson) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: shipping a hive and bees from CA to MN Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 22:57:25 -0700 Organization: Electronic Imaging Systems, Inc. Lines: 15 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: max1-np-ca-07.earthlink.net Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8802 Hi, My neighbor, who is also a beekeper, is moving from California to Minnesota. The movers estimator told him he could ship the beehive with the furniture, but the driver says the closed trailer will get too hot going across the desert, and my freind's wife put the whammy on his idea to screen up the hive and carry it in the back of the family van. The hive is now in my yard and I'm going to try to box the bees and ship them by the US postal service, and send the empty hive (two 10 inch brood chambers) via UPS. What are the packaging requirements for shipping live bees? Also, how can I get all the adult bees out of the hive into a package? Paul Article 8803 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!uunet!in2.uu.net!192.108.254.3!news.teleport.com!not-for-mail From: Paul Cauthorn Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: shipping a hive and bees from CA to MN Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 06:08:49 -0700 Organization: Cascadia Hop Company Lines: 36 Message-ID: <33BBA461.1C9C@teleport.com> References: Reply-To: pbc@teleport.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-eug1-09.teleport.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) To: Paul Nicholson Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8803 Hi, I'm sure your friend is pretty attached to his colony, but you might consider the option of selling the colony. Once he's in MN, he could purchase one locally. Otherwise, he's going to end up with a very stressed out colony. One way of caging the bees would be the use of a bee vacuum. I think it's the May issue of Bee Culture that has plans for this. I think the biggest problem will be the unattended brood left in the brood chamber. There's also going to brood emerging along the way. Your local postmaster can give you all the requirements for mailing. Please keep us updated. Good Luck, Paul Cauthorn Paul Nicholson wrote: > > Hi, > > My neighbor, who is also a beekeper, is moving from California to > Minnesota. The movers estimator told him he could ship the beehive with > the furniture, but the driver says the closed trailer will get too hot > going across the desert, and my freind's wife put the whammy on his idea > to screen up the hive and carry it in the back of the family van. The hive > is now in my yard and I'm going to try to box the bees and ship them by > the US postal service, and send the empty hive (two 10 inch brood > chambers) via UPS. > > What are the packaging requirements for shipping live bees? Also, how can > I get all the adult bees out of the hive into a package? > > Paul Article 8804 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!vtaix.cc.vt.edu!adamf From: adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queen Problem Date: 3 Jul 1997 10:50:23 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5pg05f$pns$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <5pb2nu$fbn@fcnews.fc.hp.com> <33BA3880.288F@sprintmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vtaix.cc.vt.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8804 In article <33BA3880.288F@sprintmail.com>, Jon Iverson wrote: > >One other school of thought is to squash the old queen and smear her on >the new queen cage. This will mask the new queen's scent and make her >more acceptable. I did it without doing the later. A bee's capacity to perceive pheromones is amazing! They are sensitive to some pheromones at the nanogram level, maybe even picogram level--that's very very small! Squashing a laying queen on a new queen's cage, although seemingly logical, is probably not a good thing to do. You would be applying all the pheromonal materials to the queen cage all at once. By overloading the bee's receptor sites you might be cue-ing alarm behavior, rather than acceptance. Who knows? I'd remove the old queen (in a requeen ) and then install the new queen, in her cage. In a hive ready for a new queen, I remove all the candy and place a single sheet of newspaper over the cage hole, held on by an elastic band. In a colony that has been queenless for awhile, or is on the verge of something nasty (laying worker) I give the colony brood, then then introduce a caged queen on the brood using a push-in cage. A regular USA wood mailing cage will work okay too; the advantage to the push-in cage is that the brood emerging from the comb will immediately accept the queen. With allies in the new colony she'll be accepted much more readily. Adam -- _________________ Adam Finkelstein adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu http://sunsite.unc.edu/bees/adamf Article 8805 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!csir.uni.net.za!wits.uni.net.za!news.puk.ac.za!usenet From: aa Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Prepromelittin cDNA Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 15:43:00 -0700 Organization: University of Potchefstroom Lines: 5 Message-ID: <33BC2AF4.A13@cool.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bchfjm.puk.ac.za Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8805 Does anybody know where I could get hold of cDNA of the prepromelittin gene of Apis mellifera ? Please email me at bchncgvp@puknet.puk.ac.za. Any help would be greatly appreciated . Nico Gey van Pittius Article 8806 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!newsin.iconnet.net!news.inc.net!feeder.chicago.cic.net!EU.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp.sprintmail.com!nntp.sprintmail.com!news@sprintmail.com From: Jon Iverson Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queen excluders, can they be too small? Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 08:45:49 -0700 Organization: Poulsbo, Washington - "Little Norway" Lines: 16 Message-ID: <33BBC92D.1B10@sprintmail.com> References: <33BBAE0C.41C6@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu> Reply-To: joniverson@sprintmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: sdn-ts-005wapoulp02.dialsprint.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) To: Randy Nessler Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8806 Randy Nessler wrote: > > I installed supers on three hives on June 12, with a queen excluder > between the super and the brood chamber. Last night I opened the hives > for a look, and there was no activity in the supers (no comb being > drawn, and very few bees present in the super). These are first year > hives, so I guess they might not be ready, though one hive has both deep > brood chambers in production. The bees are three banded Italians, and > I've never seen different sized openings offered for the queen excluder, > so I guess I just need to be patient? > -- > Randy Nessler rnessler@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu > Views expressed are my own. Let them draw out the comb and then put in the excluder. The eggs the queen lays in the super will hatch and be replaced with honey. Article 8807 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!ukma!jobone!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!128.255.40.11!news.uiowa.edu!not-for-mail From: Randy Nessler Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Queen excluders, can they be too small? Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 08:50:04 -0500 Organization: The University of Iowa Lines: 11 Message-ID: <33BBAE0C.41C6@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-SGI (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP22) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8807 I installed supers on three hives on June 12, with a queen excluder between the super and the brood chamber. Last night I opened the hives for a look, and there was no activity in the supers (no comb being drawn, and very few bees present in the super). These are first year hives, so I guess they might not be ready, though one hive has both deep brood chambers in production. The bees are three banded Italians, and I've never seen different sized openings offered for the queen excluder, so I guess I just need to be patient? -- Randy Nessler rnessler@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu Views expressed are my own. Article 8808 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!newsfeed.cv.nrao.edu!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!gatech!sdd.hp.com!hp-pcd.cv.hp.com!hplabs!hplntx!cello.hpl.hp.com!col.hp.com!fc.hp.com!hird From: hird@fc.hp.com (Steve Hird) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queen Problem Date: 3 Jul 1997 13:46:50 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5pgaga$s9f@fcnews.fc.hp.com> References: <5pb2nu$fbn@fcnews.fc.hp.com> <33BA3880.288F@sprintmail.com> Reply-To: hird-at-fc.hp.com NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.fc.hp.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2.10] Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8808 Jon Iverson (joniverson@sprintmail.com) wrote: : Swarming will reduce the population and if I suspected I had a drone : layer, I would re-queen. You should get a new hatch every 21 days. I gave up looking for her and assume she must be dead/gone. There is no sign of the bees trying to re-queen and there is maybe ten or so capped drone brood cells and a couple of larva, both signs that the queen was present not too long ago. : Some queens can be hard to find but you must find her if you are going : to re-queen. Just look for the area the she has been laying. She won't : be on the capped brood and there is a saying around here that "a queen : won't walk across honey". She will be close to where the fresh eggs have I am not sure if there are any eggs. Are they an orange colored paste in the bottom of a cell or is that just pollen? : Hope this gets to you. I assume I need to take out the REMOVE in your : email address. Sorry for the confusion I forgot that my email was broken were I posted from. Thanks for your help Steve Hird hird@lvld.hp.com Article 8809 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.columbia.edu!psinntp!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!paladin.american.edu!news.jhu.edu!boingo.amil.jhu.edu!news.his.com!news3.his.com!usenet From: John Alexander Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: BeeChat Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 21:46:22 -0400 Organization: Heller Information Services, Inc. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <33B9B2EE.50DE@widtech.com> Reply-To: jdalexa@widtech.com NNTP-Posting-Host: jdalexa.his.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8809 All, The first forum of BeeChat, featuring Dr. Pedro Rodriguez went tolerably well considering the problems with the chat server. I appologize for these difficulties and hope to have them resolved for the next BeeChat session. A transcript of the session (edited for readibility and pertinance) will be availablein a day or so from the BeeChat homepage at: http://www.widtech.com/beechat/ Thank you, Dr. Rodriguez for your time and everyone for bearing with the difficulties. John Alexander WIDTECH Article 8810 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!uunet!in1.uu.net!128.255.40.11!news.uiowa.edu!not-for-mail From: Randy Nessler Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queen excluders, can they be too small? Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 10:47:31 -0500 Organization: The University of Iowa Lines: 24 Message-ID: <33BBC993.41C6@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu> References: <33BBAE0C.41C6@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu> <33BBC92D.1B10@sprintmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-SGI (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP22) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8810 Jon Iverson wrote: > > Randy Nessler wrote: > > > > I installed supers on three hives on June 12, with a queen excluder > > between the super and the brood chamber. Last night I opened the hives > > for a look, and there was no activity in the supers (no comb being > > drawn, and very few bees present in the super). These are first year > > hives, so I guess they might not be ready, though one hive has both deep > > brood chambers in production. The bees are three banded Italians, and > > I've never seen different sized openings offered for the queen excluder, > > so I guess I just need to be patient? > > -- > > Randy Nessler rnessler@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu > > Views expressed are my own. > > Let them draw out the comb and then put in the excluder. The eggs the > queen lays in the super will hatch and be replaced with honey. Such an easy answer! A big DUHH for me. Thanks for the excellent advice. -- Randy Nessler rnessler@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu Views expressed are my own. Article 8811 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,sci.agriculture.fruit,sci.agriculture.poultry,sci.agriculture.ratites Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!uucp3.uu.net!xyzzy!nntp From: "Kathy E. Gill" Subject: Re: Ag News & Information X-Nntp-Posting-Host: e837151.rtn.boeing.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <33BC08C4.1CCF@boeing.com> Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (Boeing NNTP News Access) Reply-To: kathy.gill@boeing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: keg Organization: DCAC/MRM References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 20:17:08 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Lines: 93 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture:20571 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8811 sci.agriculture.fruit:926 sci.agriculture.poultry:2977 sci.agriculture.ratites:863 Robert Georgantas wrote: > > Announcing the SCIENCE GUIDE. > http://www.scienceguide.com > > A New Internet Directory and Information Service run by Scientists and for > Scientists and Physicians. 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Gill DCAC/MRM Business Process Information Team PHONE 234.2004 FAX 234.2820, MS 6X-JT http://www.dotparagon.com/ Article 8812 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!198.207.169.10!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wildbee!andy.nachbaur From: andy.nachbaur@beenet.com (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: VARROA, (started as cell size) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 22:03:00 GMT Message-ID: <9707031839432127@beenet.com> Organization: WILD BEE'S BBS (209) 826-8107 LOS BANOS, CA Distribution: world Lines: 85 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8812 FYI* RIPed off the BeeList. ---------------------------------------- RD>From: Richard Drutchas >Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 07:21:56 +0000 >Subject: cell size >Organization: Bee Haven Honey RD>Early on I was hearing that AHB was more tolerant to varroa now Im >hearing that its varroa that is holding AHB back in southern Texas. How >about it is varroa killing feral AHB in Brazil? Hello Richard, Varroa has not disappeared from any area of the world they have been reported in, as far as I have read, or heard. Some areas such as Brazil and other SA location have varroa but they are not reported to be a problem to hivebees or their feral offspring. They appear to reach a certain level in the honeybee populations, (maybe 10%), and co exists with their honeybee hosts. Some say this is because they are different, but the damage and vector they provide for other pathogens is the same if they were made in Japan or Eastern Europe. I have long suspected that the right kind of sales promotion of chemical treatments could fast change the perceived threat from Vampire mites even in Brazil and all beekeepers would be treating there today to prevent loss. Maybe an aggressive government give away program such as reported done in other areas and with queen bees in the past would change the bee tolerance to mites or is it beekeeper tolerance? Brazil has been blessed with some real bee scientists that have resisted the pesticide merry-go-around. Or it could be that producing pesticide advertizements in the language of Brazil is not cost effective as it is in the English or Spanish language. Many explanations have and will be given why one area suffers from horrendous loss of honeybees and the other none or less, the best answer is better pasture and less stress in one area over another. It is interesting to note that in the USA we have since the first importation of bees had climatic health problems with them. These problems seem to run in cycles with large die offs each time placed on some biological disaster. Then followed by periods of relative calm until the next event. I personally believe we are again entering one of those extended periods of relative calm. Sadly beekeepers in the US will be treating for one problem or another forever. Some will change from costly chemical treatments to less costly and non toxic things like mineral oil for Vampire mites. As for the feral populations.. One thing I have noticed in almost 50 years of stoop labor in my own bee hives is there is less swarming. This is because I am a better beekeeper, use better stock, and my bees have poorer pasture then they once had, all more or less true. I mention this because the continued hype to the public media of the big loss reported by some in the wild or feral honeybee populations. This is being unwarranted made into some kind of natural disaster when it is nothing more the the reflection of our own efforts and may have passed in the wind. Feral hives are different in only one respect from hive bees and that is they are the survivors of swarms issued by our hives. If we have no or much less swarms in our hivebees then in time there will be no or few feral hives in many areas of the US that are hostile to bees because of the same factors that reduce our own hive numbers each year under the best of care and environmental conditions. It is also well to remember that all the research done on feral honeybee populations in the USA does not amount to much more then a few local grad student projects. There does not exist a data base of feral hive statistics over any extended period of time for more then a limited local area and most of these are very limited spastic observations. It is sad to see so many research and proposed research papers with figures of gloom and doom on feral and hive bee populations but then thats pure USA BS (bee science) for you and they wonder why they are on the short list. ttul, the OLd Drone (c) Permission is granted to freely copy this document in any form, or to print for any personal use. (w)Opinions are not necessarily facts. Use at own risk. --- þ QMPro 1.53 þ http://gears.tucson.ars.ag.gov/beecam/beecam.html --- þ QMPro 1.53 þ Honey is sweeter than wine. Spreads on bread better too! Article 8814 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.bu.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!not-for-mail From: bill greenrose Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: BeeChat Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 01:03:13 -0400 Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Lines: 97 Message-ID: <33BC8411.C9A46F8D@valley.net> References: <33B9B2EE.50DE@widtech.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: v2-p-102.valley.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------ECA83FD5C3C07EB64273D806" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8814 --------------ECA83FD5C3C07EB64273D806 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Alexander wrote: > All, > > The first forum of BeeChat, featuring Dr. Pedro Rodriguez went > tolerably well considering the problems with the chat server. I > appologize for these difficulties and hope to have them resolved for > the next BeeChat session. > > A transcript of the session (edited for readibility and pertinance) > will be availablein a day or so from the BeeChat homepage at: > > http://www.widtech.com/beechat/ > > Thank you, Dr. Rodriguez for your time and everyone for bearing with > the difficulties. > > John Alexander > WIDTECH hi john, don't sweat it, the problems were certainly out of your control. during the 'growing pains' period of IRC, i used to spend more time trying to reconnect than i spent actually in a room. i expect java-chat will undergo the same sort of evolution, as demand outstrips capacity. the session was great, with lots of useful info. besides being able to ask questions of dr. rodriguez, it was also very helpful to chat with other beekeepers in real-time. thanks for your efforts, and i look forward to reading the transcript. bill ######################################## don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player greenros@medicalmedia.com [work] bill.greenrose@valley.net [home] http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 --------------ECA83FD5C3C07EB64273D806 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Alexander wrote:
All,

The first forum of BeeChat, featuring Dr. Pedro Rodriguez went
tolerably well considering the problems with the chat server.  I
appologize for these difficulties and hope to have them resolved for
the next BeeChat session.

A transcript of the session (edited for readibility and pertinance)
will be availablein a day or so from the BeeChat homepage at:

http://www.widtech.com/beechat/

Thank you, Dr. Rodriguez for your time and everyone for bearing with
the difficulties.

John Alexander
WIDTECH

 hi john,

don't sweat it, the problems were certainly out of your control.  during the 'growing pains' period of IRC, i used to spend more time trying to reconnect than i spent actually in a room.  i expect java-chat will undergo the same sort of evolution, as demand outstrips capacity.

the session was great, with lots of useful info.  besides being able to ask questions of dr. rodriguez, it was also very helpful to chat with other beekeepers in real-time.

thanks for your efforts, and i look forward to reading the transcript.

bill
 
########################################

don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player

greenros@medicalmedia.com [work]
bill.greenrose@valley.net [home]
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 --------------ECA83FD5C3C07EB64273D806-- Article 8815 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!206.250.118.17!nntp.earthlink.net!max1-np-ca-06.earthlink.net!user From: paul@eisusa.com (Paul Nicholson) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: shipping a hive and bees from CA to MN Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 22:30:36 -0700 Organization: Electronic Imaging Systems, Inc. Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: max1-np-ca-06.earthlink.net Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8815 Hi, >I'm sure your friend is pretty attached to his colony, but you might >consider the option of selling the colony. Once he's in MN, he could >purchase one locally. Otherwise, he's going to end up with a very >stressed out colony. Actually, I think he's attached to his woodenware. The truck driver said he'd take it, and I'm betting those bees don't make it past Arizona because of the heat. He put boardman feeders with water in them inside the hive, but the vibration of the truck will soon empty them. Out of concern for the bee's I offered to find a local buyer for the hive. >One way of caging the bees would be the use of a bee vacuum. I think >it's the May issue of Bee Culture that has plans for this. It's too much work. >I think the biggest problem will be the unattended brood left in the >brood chamber. There's also going to brood emerging along the way. Your >local postmaster can give you all the requirements for mailing. I'll hear next week if they made it. Paul Article 8816 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.bu.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!not-for-mail From: bill greenrose Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queen Problem Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 09:20:13 -0400 Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Lines: 58 Message-ID: <33BCF88D.F2BEC902@valley.net> References: <5pb2nu$fbn@fcnews.fc.hp.com> <33BA3880.288F@sprintmail.com> <5pgaga$s9f@fcnews.fc.hp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: v2-p-113.valley.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8816 Steve Hird wrote: > : Some queens can be hard to find but you must find her if you are > going > : to re-queen. Just look for the area the she has been laying. She > won't > : be on the capped brood and there is a saying around here that "a > queen > : won't walk across honey". She will be close to where the fresh eggs > have > > I am not sure if there are any eggs. Are they an orange colored paste > > in the bottom of a cell or is that just pollen? > what you're describing sounds more like pollen. eggs look like tiny grains of rice in the bottom of the cells. should be one to a cell, sort of on end and pointing up. they can be hard to see, at first, because they're very small. try angling the frame around a bit, until you can get the light just right to illuminate down into the cells. if your queen has/had a good laying pattern, then there should be a progression of brood development in the comb, with capped brood in the middle, uncapped brood outside of that, getting progressively smaller, until there are eggs on the perimeter of the cells containing the smallest larvae. obviously, this depends not only on the queen, but on the overall crowding in the hive and how much space she has with which to work. plus, once the capped brood 'hatch' in the middle, she generally starts the process all over again, so you will see a sort of 'bulls eye' effect, as she lays in the newly vacated cells in the middle. once you can pick out all the phases of the development cycle, you can see just how cool the whole process is. you really want to get the hang of spotting eggs, because IMHO [but i'm a newbie, so what do i know?] they are one of the best ways of determining the health of your hive and your queen. if you see eggs, then she was around at least a few days ago. for example, i didn't see my queen for over a week, because i was probably rolling her off onto the other frames, as i took each frame out to examine. [i finally figured out that you should take out one frame and LEAVE it out, in order to create a gap that you can slide the other frames into to make removal easier and less traumatic for the bees. duh.] but, i didn't panic, because every time i removed a frame, i saw that new eggs had been laid in the pattern i described above. so, i knew she was in there, somewhere. once i changed my frame removal style, i saw her that same day. hope this helps. bill ######################################## don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player greenros@medicalmedia.com [work] bill.greenrose@valley.net [home] http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 Article 8817 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-in.iadfw.net!news-f.iadfw.net!usenet From: busykngt@airmail.net (BusyKnight) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queen Problem Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 15:36:29 GMT Organization: INTERNET AMERICA Lines: 35 Message-ID: X-Orig-Message-ID: <5pj2se$s61@library.airnews.net> References: <5pb2nu$fbn@fcnews.fc.hp.com> <33BA3880.288F@sprintmail.com> <5pg05f$pns$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Reply-To: busykngt@mail.airmail.net NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Host: dal09-25.ppp.iadfw.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8817 adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu (Adam Finkelstein) wrote: >I'd remove the old queen (in a requeen ) and then install the new queen, >in her cage. In a hive ready for a new queen, I remove all the candy >and place a single sheet of newspaper over the cage hole, held on by an >elastic band. Adam had a very good post with the excption of the above comment (IMHO). I would disagree with this technique. While some beekeepers will dispense with the queen cage altogether and just directly release the new queen into the hive, I have never been one to watch ten dollars disappear so quickly. And the technique described above is pretty close to that. With just a single layer of newspaper to chew through, the bees will be at the new queen in no time (perhaps a matter of minutes!). Even "in a hive ready for a new queen", I would always leave the candy plug in place and force the colony to take a two or three days to chew thru it so they have the time to (hopefully) adjust to the new queen's pheromones. I have on occassion even left the cork plug in place for a day or two before I allowed the bees access to the candy plug; to lengthen the time the new queen is exposed to the colony. (This is no worse than it taking an extra day or two for the queen to arrive in the mail - plus it has the added benefit of putting the new queen in contact with the colony). I usually use this technique on a 'hot' colony. The main thing that Adam said and I agree with, is to place a frame or two of brood in with the new queen. This seems to help the acceptance of the new queen (especially in a hot colony). Also, if you don't have a strong honey flow going at the time of requeening, by all means, feed some sugar syrup while you're trying to get the colony to accept a new queen. BusyKnight Dallas Article 8818 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!198.207.169.10!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wildbee!andy.nachbaur From: andy.nachbaur@beenet.com (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: S.A.B.A. Summer Workshop Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 02:42:00 GMT Message-ID: <9707041749452139@beenet.com> Organization: WILD BEE'S BBS (209) 826-8107 LOS BANOS, CA Distribution: world Lines: 31 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8818 FYI* bEE meeting...August From: Aaron Morris Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:53:13 EDT Subject: S.A.B.A. Summer Workshop at Betterbee and Meadery >--- Summer Workshop ---< The Southern Adirondack Beekeepers Association will sponsor a full day workshop on Beekeeping in northern climates on Saturday, August 2 at Betterbee in Greenwich, NY. Speakers include Dr. Shimanuki, USDA, ARS, Bee Research Laboratory in Beltsville, MD who will focus on mites, past, present and future, Peter Keating of Lac St. Jean, Quebec, a former bee inspector and currently a private consultant to the 25 biggest beekeepers in Quebec who will speak on wintering and mite control strategy in Quebec, and Charles Parker, a com- mercial beekeeper from Ontario who will speak on managing bees in the north country. This will be an excellent oppor- tunity to hear the latest information on beekeeping first hand and exchange information on the latest management tech- niques. The morning session will run from 10 am to noon and the aft- ernoon session from 1 pm to 3 pm. Bring your own lunch or visit nearby fast food restaurants. Advance registration would be appreciated as last year's workshop drew 200+ beekeepers and friends. Send $10 per family ($5 for SABA members) to Fred Ludewig at 289 Middle Line Road, Ballston Spa, NY 12020. For further information call 518-885-9032. Article 8819 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jjcardinal@aol.com (JJCardinal) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Mason Bees Date: 5 Jul 1997 02:47:32 GMT Lines: 4 Message-ID: <19970705024700.WAA05290@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8819 Can anyone tell me if theyMason Bees are considered "common" in Michigan and if they are, do you think they could be attracted with the new "Mason Bee Homes"? Louise Dawson Article 8820 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!newsfeed.concentric.net!winternet.com!not-for-mail From: Elroy Rogers Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bill, Varroa and mineral oil Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 22:42:30 -0700 Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc Lines: 36 Message-ID: <33B5F57C.6AC1@starpoint.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: aratus-15.starpoint.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I; 16bit) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8820 Hi Bill, For some reason I got this urge to shoot a guitar player and don't know why, just kidding, thought is was funny to say. I have been treating my hives with mineral oil by applying a thin strip of mineral oil to all top bars of the brood chamber box that has the most bees in, that is the lower chamber two weeks ago. Yesterday I put the mineral oil on the upper chamber then switched the two brood chamber boxes and put on my first set of supers on half of my hives. The amount of oil I been putting on each hive is about a tablespoon full, any puddles with kill bees right away. If you do put on too much you will see the bees turn almost translusent right before your eyes, seems to drive them crazy trying to get it off. The right about they will step in it then do a kind of jitter bug dance then run back down on the combs, if too much they seem to stay on top. The whole idea is to spread the mineral oil very thinly all over the combs which will kill the mites. I done this twice so with out losing too many bees, the next day you can't tell you did this. It does seem to stop them from building burr comb on the top bars. The next time I am going to apply mineral by using a white rag dipped in the oil, no excess oil then wipe down the top bars. If your going to use the mineral oil scrape all the burr comb off first, works much better. If you keep a dry rag with you just wipe off the excess, don't let it drip in between the combs. This seems like a lot of bother but I would rather have bees with very few mites going into fall. If you figure out a better system I would like to hear it. If your system worked getting those bees out ot the temporary box they were in, then maybe you may find a better way to apply the oil. I don't know about anyone else but I love to hear what others are doing and learn from their errors, I hope others can find some wisdom or humor in what I put on the news service. Like the old drone always says I just been rambling on to much. Hope this helps Elroy Article 8821 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: "Jack Griffes" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Plastic foundation Date: 5 Jul 1997 03:25:00 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 124 Message-ID: <01bc88f3$05b96d80$4b6ed9ce@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> References: <5hc6br$a72@nntp.pe.net> <9707021950292124@beenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tol-oh3-11.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Jul 04 10:25:00 PM CDT 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8821 A BIG and hearty AMEN to Tim Townsend's assessment of Pierco one piece frame/foundation. We use 'em and love 'em too. -- Jack Griffes Country Jack's Honeybee Farm Honeybee Improvement Program Ottawa Lake, MI USA e-mail: Griffes at ix.netcom.com Web site: http://pw2.netcom.com/~griffes/ "Always be nice to other people, they outnumber you 5.5 billion to 1..." - Steve White! " Andy Nachbaur wrote in article <9707021950292124@beenet.com>... > > FYI* Another view on plastic foundation. > ---------------------------------------- > From: Tim Townsend > Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 14:50:01 -0700 > Subject: Re: Plastic foundation > Organization: TPLR Honey Farms > > Andy Nachbaur wrote: > > > > MG>From: Mark Goodwin > > >Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 14:10:07 +1200 > > >Subject: Plastic foundation > > >Organization: HortResearch,Ruakura,NZ > > > > MG>Does anyone have a reference for a scientific paper comparing the > > >performance of plastic foundation and wax foundation. > > > > Hello Mark, > > > > I am sure that there are some and hope someone will forward them to you. > > > > But from experience in beekeeping testing, and most beekeepers this area > > use rigid plastic foundations not because it is more better for the bees > > but because it is stronger and holds up well with mechanical uncapping > > machines and very fast radial extractors, and is not labor intensive to > > install in the wooden frames. Anyway in beekeeper field testing the bees > > always preferred wax foundation over wax covered plastic film > > foundations, or rigid plastic foundations with or without bees wax > > coatings. All one has to do is put on foundation during a honey flow > > with the wax foundations, and the plastic together to see the > > difference. > > > > Andy; > I had to respond to this post as I don't agree with it :), not because > I am the Canadian dealer for Pierco, but because I am a beekeeper and > have been using plastic for about five years now, in large amounts, we > also talk to alot of beekeepers here in Canada and abroad that use > plastic foundation or one piece units, and the general concenses is that > as long as the bees are in good shape and on a flow they draw out the > plastic very well, even in side by side tests ( done by two agriculture > field men in Alberta and British Columbia) the results do NOT show a > preference for wax over plastic. Some of the advantages of plastic over > wax are: > 1. Removal of undesired comb, ie. drone or intermediary, is possible > without damaging the frame. > 2. The queens lay in the plastic sooner than the wax (I don't know > why)but we have seen it as have others, the first frames of brood in the > spring are nine times out of ten on the plastic frames. > 3. Can remove the old wax and end up with a totally new reusable > frame, (would be quite benificial in Europe now with the wax being > tainted). > 4. More cell space per frame ( pierco one piece units) nine frames > can equal ten. > 5. Stand up much better to the extracing, moving, wax moth, mice, > beekeepers, and even bears. > 6. Also with the one piece units the frames are the exact size, so > all the equipment is the same, unlike wood frames which you know come in > a wide variety of sizes. > 7. Ease of assemblage and storability, not damaged if you are unable > to use them this season. > They don't do everything, but they are an improvement over wood, > especially for the commercial operator. I also believe that even the > hobbiest's would be surprised and happy with them in there hives. But > like excluders, they aren't for everybody. > > Tim Townsend > Stony Plain AB Canada > --- > þ QMPro 1.53 þ http://194.112.46.22/public/default.htm (Amigabee BBS) > Article 8822 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: "Jack Griffes" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: VARROA, (started as cell size) Date: 5 Jul 1997 03:42:29 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 80 Message-ID: <01bc88f5$77d760a0$4b6ed9ce@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> References: <9707031839432127@beenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tol-oh3-11.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Jul 04 10:42:29 PM CDT 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8822 Andy Nachbaur wrote in article <9707031839432127@beenet.com>... > As for the feral populations.. One thing I have noticed in almost 50 > years of stoop labor in my own bee hives is there is less swarming. This > is because I am a better beekeeper, use better stock, and my bees have > poorer pasture then they once had, all more or less true. I mention this > because the continued hype to the public media of the big loss reported > by some in the wild or feral honeybee populations. This is being > unwarranted made into some kind of natural disaster when it is nothing > more the the reflection of our own efforts and may have passed in the > wind. Feral hives are different in only one respect from hive bees and > that is they are the survivors of swarms issued by our hives. If we have > no or much less swarms in our hivebees then in time there will be no or > few feral hives in many areas of the US that are hostile to bees because > of the same factors that reduce our own hive numbers each year under the > best of care and environmental conditions. Andy, what you say may (or may not) be true where you live. It is certainly not true here. Except for the most Northern reaches a great deal of Michigan is IDEAL for honeybees and feral colonies used to be abundant here. In pre-mite days Michigan State University did a study of Pickle Pollination and found that even with rented hives the feral bees where doing 50% of the pollination. Now we have folks that used to get that free pollination from the bees in the woods wondering why there apple trees have nearly zero apples on them, etc. And there was the Zucchini grower with 100 acres of squash in bloom that can't find one single honeybee in the field. So it ain't all a bunch of jive Andy - it happens to be the truth here in our area that feral colonies are pretty near extinct. The only ones are the recent swarms (this was a swarmy year in MI) and they will likely be pretty near all dead by Spring if they live that long. While in pre-mite days a new swarm had only a one in three chance of making it until next Spring it is equally true that if they accomplished that feat they had a very decent chance of surviving near forever after that. And it just ain't thata way no more. And it is very very true that the loss of feral colonies is hurting pollination of home orchards and gardens. The flip side of that coin though is that the loss of free pollination from the feral bees is generating a whole new wave of beekeepers. The loss of feral colonies has also increased the average honey yield in MI - less competition for floral resources - many beekeepers setting out twice the colonies in their yards now that more can make good in an area as well. -- Jack Griffes Ottawa Lake, MI USA e-mail: Griffes at ix.netcom.com Web site: http://pw2.netcom.com/~griffes/ "Always be nice to other people, they outnumber you 5.5 billion to 1..." - Steve White! " Article 8823 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.96.250.4!news1.icx.net!not-for-mail From: fakeaddress@avoidspammers.net Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Help me identify odd bee Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 06:06:24 GMT Organization: Internet Design Group, Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <33bde3c7.929933@news.icx.net> References: <5pf0ge$o3o$1@gretle.intersource.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm4s.icx.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8823 On 3 Jul 1997 01:50:06 GMT, mbenton@ansel.intersource.com (Mark Benton) wrote: >Are there any good resources on the net to help one indentify and learn >about bees? I have some burrowing bees in my back yard, they are small, >about honey-bee sized, mostly black and yellow, abdomen kind of flat. >They happened to nest right under my 10 month olds swing, and I need to >know if they could be dangerous to him. > >thanks, > >Mark Benton > >mbenton@kiva.net >mbenton@harman.com > > > I believe you have a nest of yellow jackets under your 10 mionths old's swing. Kill them. They sting, and sting a lot. It may not hurt an adult, but it couldn't be good for babies. At the very least, they hurt! Article 8824 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!sun4nl!sun4nl!Utrecht.NL.net!Kijfhoek.NL.net!not-for-mail From: HOSTY Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Nederlandstalige nieuwsgroep Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 08:11:12 +0200 Organization: DERAAT Message-ID: <33BDE580.2D60@PUBLISHNET.NL> Reply-To: deraat@publishnet.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: p21.pm1.publishnet.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Lines: 10 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8824 Aan Allen De nederlandstalige nieuwsgroep laat niet meer lang op zich wachten en op het moment is een rondzendlijst onder de nederlandstalige imkers dus als er mensen zijn in het buitenland die hier aan deel willen nemen,mail dan naar listserv@lifenet.nl met in de header subscribe ik hoop op reactie. Groeten Ed Article 8825 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!vtaix.cc.vt.edu!adamf From: adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queen Problem Date: 5 Jul 1997 11:54:18 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5plcla$2oo$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <5pb2nu$fbn@fcnews.fc.hp.com> <33BA3880.288F@sprintmail.com> <5pg05f$pns$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: vtaix.cc.vt.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8825 In article , BusyKnight wrote: > I have never been one to watch ten >dollars disappear so quickly. And the technique described above is >pretty close to that. With just a single layer of newspaper to chew >through, the bees will be at the new queen in no time (perhaps a >matter of minutes!). Even "in a hive ready for a new queen", I would >always leave the candy plug in place and force the colony to take a >two or three days to chew thru it so they have the time to (hopefully) >adjust to the new queen's pheromones. Sure. The condition of the hive to be requeened is as important to assess as the quality of the new queen. Some hives just need a new queen; others need a new queen caged for a few days. Others will certainly need brood and a queen. Using the newspaper method has worked well (for me) on the average. Like queen candy, you can "tune" the time taken for the bees to remove the queen by adding more layers of newspaper, or other paper-- I try to follow the old beekeeping adage with requeening: "Give the bees what they expect." Therefore, a colony hostile towards a new queen will receive a caged queen. A colony that is fanning and I know has been queenless, I'll give a newspapered-in-a-cage- queen. Sometimes, if a change in queens is necessary, both queens are laying, and on frames, you can just switch the queens. Defiantly though, if in doubt, time the release of the new queen so that her pheromonal and physiological odor may become the dominant one in the new hive, after assessing the hive's condition. I appreciate BusyKnight's point with the $10.00 queen becoming a $10.00 chewed clump of bee-parts. Another advantage to raising your own queens! Adam -- _________________ Adam Finkelstein adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu http://sunsite.unc.edu/bees/adamf Article 8826 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: "Jack Griffes" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queen Problem Date: 5 Jul 1997 13:14:35 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 102 Message-ID: <01bc8945$59f4dea0$2a8cb8cd@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> References: <5pb2nu$fbn@fcnews.fc.hp.com> <33BA3880.288F@sprintmail.com> <5pg05f$pns$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <5plcla$2oo$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: tol-oh1-10.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Jul 05 8:14:35 AM CDT 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8826 Adam Finkelstein wrote in article <5plcla$2oo$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu>... Sometimes, if a > change in queens is necessary, both queens are laying, and on frames, you can > just switch the queens. Yep you can - pick one up - drop the other in her spot. BUT they have to be a match as to "state of lay". And having a honeyflow on helps as well. >Defiantly though, if in doubt, time the release of > the new queen so that her pheromonal and physiological odor may become > the dominant one in the new hive, after assessing the hive's condition. > For certain make an assessment as to receptivity of the colony to that queen in a cage before hastening her release. Look and see if bees are biting the screen - if they are the queen would/will get handled VERY rough if she got out then. > I appreciate BusyKnight's point with the $10.00 queen becoming a $10.00 > chewed clump of bee-parts. Another advantage to raising your own > queens! > Ain't that the truth. The advantages of raising your own queens are NUMEROUS. One advantage being relatedness. Bees are more receptive to queens they are related to it seems. And if you can't/won't/just don't wanna learn how to graft (or use a non-grafting method) you can still pick up many of the advantages of raising your own queens by buying queen cells instead of mated queens. Obviously the cells must be grafted off stock that is well suited to your region. Using cells you can use "forced supersedure" to comparatively cheaply requeen "everything" during a flow. As with anything with bees you won't get 100% requeened this way. But is fast and simple and in many cases the best practical way to go. Assuming you are not using excluders you just drop a very near emergence (10 or 11 day after grafting) PROTECTED queen cell into the uppermost super the bees are vigourously working in (gotta be lotsa bees where you put the cell - don't go putting it where there ain't no bees). Results vary but generally DURING A FLOW when done to supersede older queens you get around 60-80% "forced supersedure" this way. And if it is warm enough so you can use Top Bar Cell Protectors (hang cell between top bars of frames instead of down in comb as you would under cool conditions) then you can plant a LOT of cells in a hurry too saving MUCH time. Joseph Cantu and I planted 154 cells in 35 minutes - counting time from time we stopped truck to time we were getting back in truck to leave. In this case they were splits made according to the "Yard Trashing" method down in FL and yes they were all in one yard on 6-way pallets. Since they were splits the cells were planted in the brood box (had no supers nor enough bees to be working in supers if'n they did have 'em). If you really have no reason to know if you have the same queen in your hive or not - you can just drop a PROTECTED cell in each colony Spring, Summer, or early Fall during a flow. If you want to know if it got requeened (sometimes they end up with two queens just as sometimes happens with normal supersedure) you look at them in two weeks after planting the cell in them. If they have all phases of brood in a balanced brood nest you know the old queen is still there (but you don't know if the virgin got mated and is there too). If they have only patches of old sealed brood a bunch of empty polished cells and a frame or two or three of eggs and very young larvae then the old queen is gone and you now have a new queen. When we make up nucs here (unless for AI) we don't spend much if any time trying to find the queen in the colony we are splitting. If the pace is leisurely we will take a quick glance at each side of every brood frame on the chance we may spot her and kill her (unless she is needed somewhere). But we don't (unless she is a potential breeder queen or the nucs are being made up to house AI queens) spend anymore time than a quick glance per side of frame to look - one scan and the frame is gone. Then we just come back next day and make any adjustments to try and equalize the nucs and drop a cell in EVERY nuc. Cells are alot cheaper and more expendable than time is when things need doing and this way if that laying queen is young and vigorous she may not get the ax just now but will instead have a stronger colony you can use as a support colony if need be. -- Jack Griffes Ottawa Lake, MI USA e-mail: Griffes at ix.netcom.com Web site: http://pw2.netcom.com/~griffes/ "Always be nice to other people, they outnumber you 5.5 billion to 1..." - Steve White! " Article 8827 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!News1.Vancouver.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!azure.xara.net!xara.net!zynet.net!bashabee From: Stewart Beattie Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: honey Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 20:36:18 +0000 (GMT) Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <19970630135701.JAA14932@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vpop001-p1.zynet.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 X-Newsreader: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.09] Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8827 In article , BusyKnight wrote: > > dianajudd@aol.com (DianaJudd) wrote: > > >Please could you advise me on the healing properties of honey as. What > >specific illness or allergies is it good for? > > Honey is a food (only). > > Honey has been used, possibly still is to cure bed sores in hospital anybody confirm this?? Stewart Cumbria, UK. (an old Gable-Endie) Article 8828 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <33BEDFF0.5CA2@ibm.net> Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 19:59:44 -0400 From: Al Welk Reply-To: ajwelk@ibm.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: honey References: <19970630135701.JAA14932@ladder01.news.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.72.78.81 Lines: 21 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsm.ibm.net!ibm.net!news2.ibm.net!166.72.78.81 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8828 I have tried to find articles and books on the healing properties of honey. It is assumed that local honey will help with pollen related alergies. I can not confirm this in any medical or homopathic books. It does however help my 5 year old son and many of my customers swear by it. It must be local and unfiltered honey. Honey is anti microbial(SP), and hydroscopic. It does not support the growth of bacteria or microbes. It also absorbs moisture. I can only find in old time homecure type books that honey placed on open cuts and burns helps the healing process. It prevents bacteria from growing and absorbs the excess moisture and infection that is present in the wound. I can find many old reciepies that use honey for various cures there is no formal documentation that I can find. If anyone can please email me because I would love to reference that material with my honey sales literature. As was mentioned by BusyKnight in his responce to this news..... Honey is food! DianaJudd wrote: > > Please could you advise me on the healing properties of honey as. What > specific illness or allergies is it good for? Article 8829 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!ix.netcom.com!news From: "Jack Griffes" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Marking Queens (Was: Use of correcting fliud) Date: 6 Jul 1997 00:01:55 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 18 Message-ID: <01bc899f$ce11a700$2f8cb8cd@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> References: <01bc726f$9adad420$358cb8cd@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> <19970607141600.KAA11193@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tol-oh1-15.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Jul 05 7:01:55 PM CDT 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8829 We mark queens using oil based paint pens - they come in a variety of colors (use a light & bright color). We catch 'em in hand (hang onto thorarx) - draw a nice dot on 'em then pronto release them. The paint pens cost about $4 each (got some on sale for $2 recently though) at our local office supply place. Have bought them down in FL at a Art supply store. -- Jack Griffes Ottawa Lake, MI USA e-mail: Griffes at ix.netcom.com Web site: http://pw2.netcom.com/~griffes/ "Always be nice to other people, they outnumber you 5.5 billion to 1..." - Steve White! " Article 8830 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!ais.net!nntp.sprintmail.com!nntp.sprintmail.com!news@sprintmail.com From: Howard Bowles Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Moving a hive Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 07:29:53 -0700 Lines: 18 Message-ID: <33BE5A61.5B62@sprintmail.com> Reply-To: hbowles@sprintmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: sdn-ts-006watacop09.dialsprint.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-SI304B01 (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8830 I have recently been able to hive a swarm...I estimate about 5lbs of bees. The swarm has built up one and is currently finishing the 7th frame in a second deep super. They appear to be very productive but at the same time they are considerably more agressive than my other hives at this site. Because of their industrious nature I do not want to re-queen yet am concerned about their penchant to chase anyone who comes close to the hive. I live in a residential area where beekeeping is permitted but do not wish to push my luck. I live in the Tacoma, WA area and the weather this year has been at best, unpredictable and I am not sure when and how would be the best to move them. I have identified a location for them and the owner is anxious to have a hive on her property. I estimate about 1 hour to secure the hive, load it, then move it to its new location. Does anyone have suggestions on how to move this cantankerous hive? Thanks, HBowles Article 8831 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: JE Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Need help with bees!!!! Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 23:28:38 -0500 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 18 Message-ID: <33BF1EF6.68CC@cybersim.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.24.83.184 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8831 Please let me preface this by saying that I have absolutely NO knowledge of bees & found this group through a website while searching for help with a severe bee problem. I would be MOST grateful if anyone could point me in the right direction to find out how to deal with this problem. Unforunately, we can't afford to have a beekeeper come and take the bees...we realy don't want to kill them, but we also can't live with the infestation either. These bees are bumblebees, not honey bees, and they have infested our horse stall undre some sheets of plywood. So in a word......HELP!!!! Aby ideas as to what we can do to deal with this problem? We would rather drive them away, but if this is not possible...what do we do. Any suggestions would be MOST welcome! Please respond via email at your convenience & thanks in advance for the help! Jon Eubanks cgar@pdq.net Article 8832 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: JE Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: wrong email address Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 23:32:18 -0500 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 26 Message-ID: <33BF1FD2.6864@pdq.net> References: <33BF1EF6.68CC@cybersim.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.24.83.184 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8832 JE wrote: > > Please let me preface this by saying that I have absolutely NO knowledge > of bees & found this group through a website while searching for help > with a severe bee problem. > I would be MOST grateful if anyone could point me in the right direction > to find out how to deal with this problem. Unforunately, we can't afford > to have a beekeeper come and take the bees...we realy don't want to kill > them, but we also can't live with the infestation either. > These bees are bumblebees, not honey bees, and they have infested our > horse stall undre some sheets of plywood. > So in a word......HELP!!!! > > Aby ideas as to what we can do to deal with this problem? We would > rather drive them away, but if this is not possible...what do we do. > Any suggestions would be MOST welcome! Please respond via email at your > convenience & thanks in advance for the help! > > Jon Eubanks > cgar@pdq.net Please note the correct email address as I had not changed the address in my browser before posting...correct address is cgar@pdq.net Thanks Jon Eubanks Article 8833 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!baron.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!knife.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!news.enterprise.net!not-for-mail From: "Rai Minter" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: International queen colours Date: 6 Jul 1997 08:56:03 GMT Organization: Private User Lines: 6 Message-ID: <01bc89e2$de310520$a3c348c2@RMINTER> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp163.enterprise.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8833 Can any one help? I have just started beekeeping and I need to find out (for a quiz) the international colour marking codes for queen bees. best regards Rai Article 8835 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!ais.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-in.iadfw.net!news-f.iadfw.net!usenet From: busykngt@airmail.net (BusyKnight) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: International queen colours Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 04:00:02 GMT Organization: INTERNET AMERICA Lines: 28 Message-ID: X-Orig-Message-ID: <5pnuvc$o5h@library.airnews.net> References: <01bc89e2$de310520$a3c348c2@RMINTER> Reply-To: busykngt@mail.airmail.net NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Host: dal03-14.ppp.iadfw.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8835 "Rai Minter" wrote: >Can any one help? I have just started beekeeping and I need to find out >(for a quiz) the international colour marking codes for queen bees. Here's a way to remember: Why You Raise Green Bees? Year Phrase Colour Year 1 Why White 6 2 You Yellow 7 3 Raise Red 8 4 Green Green 9 5 Bees? Blue 0 The International Colour System for marking newly mated queens shows the age of the queen. The colour correspondes to the year ending last digit. Example: 1997 Queens are marked yellow (as were 1992 queens and as will queens in 2002 - five years from now). Good luck on your bee quizz! BusyKnight Dallas, TX Article 8837 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-in.iadfw.net!news-f.iadfw.net!usenet From: busykngt@airmail.net (BusyKnight) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Marking Queens (Was: Use of correcting fliud) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 23:07:14 GMT Organization: INTERNET AMERICA Lines: 8 Message-ID: <09D759F602599A59.0E57EFB42C84843D.CC5412E9D95E7D0B@library-proxy.airnews.net> X-Orig-Message-ID: <5plrdf$vuh@library.airnews.net> References: <01bc726f$9adad420$358cb8cd@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> <19970607141600.KAA11193@ladder02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: busykngt@mail.airmail.net NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Host: dal06-24.ppp.iadfw.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8837 busykngt@airmail.net (BusyKnight) wrote: >I've always used just Testor's model paint... Opps, please disregard - this was an old message I accidently resent. Sorry 'bout that... Article 8838 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!uucp3.uu.net!xyzzy!bcstec!nntp From: "Stephen D. Mills" Subject: New Hives S. Central Ks. X-Nntp-Posting-Host: pc172041.ks.boeing.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <33BF8BDF.4BAE@boeing.com> Sender: nntp@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (NNTP News Access) Reply-To: Stephen.D.Mills@boeing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Boeing - Wichita Division Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 12:13:19 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Lines: 21 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8838 I am a new beekeeper this is my first year, on Apr 10 I started 3 new hives with buckfast from weaver via mid con supply in overland park ks. On Apr 10 when I picked up the bees it started out as a nice spring day but by the time I got home with the packages to Mulvane Ks the temp was dropping. But being inexperianced I installed them anyway. Looking back, I should hav waited, as the weather went from bad to worse as temps dropped into the 30's I fead them with the baggie method and really messed up as I filled them too full and had leaking sugar water everywhere which got part of a cluster wet, the cold took care of about a third of that package. So two mistakes right off! But those little girls sure are forgiving, as I put on 2nd brood chambers in may 1st super on june 9th, and checked on july 4 and had all frames in supers of all hives fully capped so added 2nd supers to all hives. It sure was great to see all that capped honey, this looks like a good start for a beginner. Stephen Mills Mulvane Ks. Article 8839 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed5.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!papergirl.highway1.com!chnws02.highway1.com!wbnws01.ne.highway1.com!root From: "James P. Marsh" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: I need advise for getting rid of a bee hive Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 11:40:11 -0400 Organization: Marsh Consulting Lines: 9 Message-ID: <33BFBC5B.2FE5@mediaone.net> Reply-To: jmarsh@mediaone.net NNTP-Posting-Host: jmarsh.ne.mediaone.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8839 A beehive has appeared in one of my windows (I can see the crack where they got in) and I would like to move it because it is in a high traffic location. I don't want to kill them (the minority opinion it seems) and was wondering if anyone knows if it possible to move the hive. It is very small right now. Thank you in advance. Article 8840 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: nilamda@aol.com (NILAMDA) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: International queen colours Date: 6 Jul 1997 15:54:25 GMT Lines: 8 Message-ID: <19970706155401.LAA02632@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <01bc89e2$de310520$a3c348c2@RMINTER> Organization: AOL, http://www.aol.co.uk X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8840 W hen White 1996 Y ou Yellow 1997 R e-queen always Red 1998 G ive the Green 1999 B est Blue 2000 White 2001 etc etc NB This system avoids any millenium problem !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Article 8841 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: nilamda@aol.com (NILAMDA) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Swarm & Queen Date: 6 Jul 1997 17:57:47 GMT Lines: 31 Message-ID: <19970706175701.NAA09133@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: Organization: AOL, http://www.aol.co.uk X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8841 I am amazed at the advice you received !!!!!!!!!!!!! There would have been around a dozen Q cells at the time they swarmed. Accepting you had to DUMP the swarm, once they settled down you should have examined every frame and cut out all Q cells bar ONE. This is best done by shaking all bees off each frame, to make it easier to see all the cells, except of course the one with the cell you want to keep, which should have the bees brushed off gently. The colony now queenless, has no brood to feed and should therefore store plenty of honey. The new queen will be very difficult to find in the colony. So you may not know if the colony is Q-right again until you see brood. This can take three weeks or more from time it swarmed. HOWEVER it sounds like you didn't cut the Q cells, so you can expect to have a cast about nine days after the swarm. Then a few days later another and another and another. I would look in right away and look for empty open Q cells. If there are any still capped, use one (with its frame) to make a nucleus. Recommend you get help ASAP. BTW if you had decided to buy a new Q you would have had to cut out ALL the cells before you introduced her. Tony Malin, RUGBY UK Article 8842 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!shaw1.demon.co.uk!shaw1.demon.co.uk!Clair From: Clair Newsgroups: alt.non.sequitur,alt.tv.simpsons,alt.tv.simpsons.itchy-scratchy,soc.culture.mexican,soc.culture.mexican.american,soc.culture.spain,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.music.korn,alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.fan.ok-soda,alt.genius.bill-palmer Subject: Re: What bumblebee are we talking about? Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 19:26:40 +0100 Organization: ESSC Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <5ocjt2$24e@news.enter.net> <33c2d5aa.11853803@news.enter.net> <1KuXRKBDHpuzIwre@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: shaw1.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: shaw1.demon.co.uk [194.222.11.177] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 3.01 Lines: 24 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu alt.non.sequitur:16891 alt.tv.simpsons:175860 alt.tv.simpsons.itchy-scratchy:3846 soc.culture.mexican:82729 soc.culture.mexican.american:26195 soc.culture.spain:152105 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8842 alt.music.korn:1579 alt.fan.karl-malden.nose:68775 alt.fan.ok-soda:3748 In article <1KuXRKBDHpuzIwre@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk>, Clayton Smith writes >In article , Martin Bulmer > writes >>In article <33c2d5aa.11853803@news.enter.net>, Phil Oliver >AMBLOCKbiosys.net> writes >>>On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:09:21 -0400, Clint Walsh >>> wrote: >>> >>>>He already has his own show on Channel Ocho. >>> >>>I don't get Channel Ocho. >>> >>>-Phil Oliver >>>----- >>>"I'm mean if you going to be hypocrite like the rest of us >>>just admit you posturing potser." - Ruwan Jayatilleke, in >>> >> >>I don't get Channel Ocho. >I don't get any channels. I'm in England! HAHAHAHAHAHAH...a You do! I'm from England! You get BBC, ITV, C4 & C5 -- Clair Article 8844 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.columbia.edu!panix!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!argonet.co.uk!argbd67 From: Nick Cooke Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Moving a hive Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 21:58:41 BST Organization: ArgoNet, but does not reflect its views Lines: 48 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <33BE5A61.5B62@sprintmail.com> Reply-To: Nick Cooke NNTP-Posting-Host: al075.du.pipex.com X-Newsreader: NewsAgent 0.84 for RISC OS Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8844 In article <33BE5A61.5B62@sprintmail.com>, Howard Bowles wrote: > > I have recently been able to hive a swarm...I estimate about 5lbs of > bees. The swarm has built up one and is currently finishing the 7th > frame in a second deep super. They appear to be very productive but at > the same time they are considerably more agressive than my other hives > at this site. Because of their industrious nature I do not want to > re-queen yet am concerned about their penchant to chase anyone who comes > close to the hive. I live in a residential area where beekeeping is > permitted but do not wish to push my luck. > I live in the Tacoma, WA area and the weather this year has been at > best, unpredictable and I am not sure when and how would be the best to > move them. I have identified a location for them and the owner is > anxious to have a hive on her property. I estimate about 1 hour to > secure the hive, load it, then move it to its new location. > Does anyone have suggestions on how to move this cantankerous hive? > > Thanks, > > HBowles > Wait till night time when the little dears have gone to bed, then close the entrance with hay or straw but give them plenty of ventilation through wire gauze at the top of the hive. (They can overheat with the panic of being shut in) Strap the hive up so that it will not come apart during the journey. Load up and away you go. I think it's a good idea to travel in your bee clothes in case of emergencies. -- Nick ZFC Cd nick.cooke@argonet.co.uk _ _______________ |___|______________|__ _/|____________________/______________ A5000, Original Serial Port, 4MB RAM, 41 MB IDE Hard Drive SCSI Card with CD-ROM and 507MB Hard drive Using 1.14 Article 8846 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uuneo.neosoft.com!news.blkbox.COM!news From: Dan Buchsbaum Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: packaging costs Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 18:22:21 -500 (CDT) Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Lines: 15 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: blkbox.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: danb Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8846 Hello from Houston! I've only been keeping bees a few years and this is the first year I have been approached by a local feed store to contract for all the honey I can produce. This year it is only going to be about 35 gallons. My costs for new lids, Ball jars, and a label are running about 25 cents for every dollar that comes in. This seems kind of high. I was wondering if other small time beekeepers (dozen hives or less) could share what their percent of costs are to give me some idea on where I stand. Anybody know where to get jars for less? Am using quart, pint and 1.5 pint jars. - Thanks, Cynthia Buchsbaum Houston, Tx Article 8847 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!vtaix.cc.vt.edu!adamf From: adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Sell/Your/Photos$$$ Date: 6 Jul 1997 23:36:29 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5ppa5t$pd6$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <5pp8qh$hra$128@roadrunner.miracle.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: vtaix.cc.vt.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8847 Spam Spam Spam. Adam -- _________________ Adam Finkelstein adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu http://sunsite.unc.edu/bees/adamf Article 8848 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.bu.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!not-for-mail From: bill greenrose Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: insect sting swabs really work Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 19:15:07 -0400 Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Lines: 35 Message-ID: <33C026FB.61295DC1@valley.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: v2-p-162.valley.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8848 greetings, thought i'd post this info, which is primarily for newbies, like me, but may be of use to others. i got my first sting of the season, but it wasn't from my bees. while mowing the lawn today, i disturbed a nest of yellow jackets, and one of them stung me right on the little piece of cartilage in the front of the ear. man, did that hurt! fortunately, i had ordered a package of insect sting swabs from the walter kelly company as a precaution, and they arrived on wednesday [timing is everything in life]. by the time i got into the house the front of my ear was hot and throbbing. i popped one of the ampoules and rubbed it on the site of the sting. within seconds the pain stopped, and it hasn't come back. no swelling, either, just a tiny bump where she got me. i figured it would just numb the pain, but it also seems to have neutralized the toxin. i don't react badly to stings in general, but i usually get SOME kind of swelling. don't know if they work as well on bees stings, but one shot sure did the trick for a yellow jacket sting. i'm sure other supply houses sell them, as well. active ingredients are: 2% Lidocane HCL, 1% Menthol and 0.13% Benzalkonium Chloride. hope this helps someone. bill ######################################## don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player greenros@medicalmedia.com [work] bill.greenrose@valley.net [home] http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 Article 8849 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!ais.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!winternet.com!not-for-mail From: Elroy Rogers Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: .Hot Teens that want to be fucked teenfuk.jpg Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 05:57:59 -0700 Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc Lines: 16 Message-ID: <33B8FED7.315C@starpoint.net> References: <5pam34$6os$751@news.internetmci.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: comet-4.starpoint.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I; 16bit) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8849 ;asdlfj@sdal;fj.com wrote: > > Looking for XXX Pictures of Teens having Sex ? 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Article 8851 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!198.207.169.10!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wildbee!andy.nachbaur From: andy.nachbaur@beenet.com (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: VARROA, (started as cell size) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 23:07:00 GMT Message-ID: <9707062204312151@beenet.com> Organization: WILD BEE'S BBS (209) 826-8107 LOS BANOS, CA Distribution: world References: <01bc88f5$77d760a0$4b6ed9ce@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> <9707031839432127@beenet.co Lines: 112 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8851 >From: "Jack Griffes" >Subject: Re: VARROA, (started as cell size) >Andy, what you say may (or may not) be true where you live. >It is certainly not true here. Except for the most Northern reaches >a great deal of Michigan is IDEAL for honeybees and feral colonies >used to be abundant here. In pre-mite days Michigan State University >did a study of Pickle Pollination and found that even with rented hives >the feral bees where doing 50% of the pollination. Now we have folks >that used to get that free pollination from the bees in the woods >wondering why there apple trees have nearly zero apples on them, etc. >And there was the Zucchini grower with 100 acres of squash in bloom >that can't find one single honeybee in the field. >So it ain't all a bunch of jive Andy - it happens to be the >truth here in our area that feral colonies are pretty near >extinct. The only ones are the recent swarms (this was a swarmy >year in MI) and they will likely be pretty near all dead by >Spring if they live that long. I am sure Jack all you say is true, I have no reason to doubt it. >While in pre-mite days a new swarm had only a one in three >chance of making it until next Spring it is equally true that if >they accomplished that feat they had a very decent chance of >surviving near forever after that. And it just ain't thata way >no more. By "pre-mite" I can only guess you are including all mites. Here in California and many other areas of the US we were suffering very dramatic losses in our bees as long ago as 90 years or more.. All these losses were well documented and well researched at the time, and all were said to have thought to have been caused by one thing or another. Sadly little attention was given then to so called "feral" hives other then to say they will soon be gone forever or were less in number then before and declining because of that days problem. One reason for this then and today is because most believe that there are no real feral honeybees this side of Europe because we have no history of honeybees except what we have imported. I believe myself that feral hive populations do reflect populations and conditions of our hivebees and they are no more then hivebees selected naturally for survival. I also believe they (the feral's) also do change by natural selection when left alone. One example of this in California is the nice gentle yellow swarms that take to the woods of the coast are soon replaced by fierce dark bees representative of the early hivebees in California which were called Spanish or German Black and well known for their poor temperament. The same thing happens in abandoned hive bees. I can say for sure from experience that some of these bees can fit the profile of the most aggressive African bee and if one bee attacks you soon every bee in the hive will take to wing and attack. I can not say they are different in any other way, except that one will seldom find AFB in the woods here, and I have seen these healthy feral swarms doing well after years cross combed in hives that showed every sign of having died out with AFB many years before in abandoned apiaries. But then a feral swarm in a old bee hive is no longer feral is it. >And it is very very true that the loss of feral colonies is >hurting pollination of home orchards and gardens. The flip side >of that coin though is that the loss of free pollination from >the feral bees is generating a whole new wave of beekeepers. All of this is not new to California not withstanding that beekeepers here still do a little pollination work with our bees it is still possible to find honeybee pollinated crops doing well without bees being moved in and we still have good populations of insects other then bees that help pollinate both our commercial and home grown fruits and vegetables. Bee pollinated crop production in California has not decreased and in fact has increased because, it is said, of better weather conditions during bloom. >The loss of feral colonies has also increased the average honey >yield in MI - less competition for floral resources - many >beekeepers setting out twice the colonies in their yards now >that more can make good in an area as well. Really sounds good, in this area that seems like always has been less then a good place for honeybees. But then the first year I worked in the bees for a commercial beekeeper (summer 1954), we had about the same number of commercial bee outfits, the big difference is the number of hives per outfit has increased from 500 to around 4,000. Pollination is number uno, it has to bee as our honey production has decreased from long time averages of 100+ lbs per hive in the 1940-50 to more like 30+ pounds today. One should remember what comes around goes around, and good conditions for hive honeybees will sooner or later become good times for feral honeybees unless you believe that you are doing something to or with your bees that does not effect the bees in the wild, I don't... Now maybe finding a nesting site, which is a real problem here for swarms as all the old clapboard building of the early days have been torn down to square up farm fields along with the removal of most trees and all the fence rows. I would like to add for consideration. Beekeeper Pollination is Good, the Best, or Top farming practice, but more times then not other then the cash that flows from it, it is not good beekeeping and will never replace good beekeeping. Few beekeepers who leave good beekeeping pasture for the smell of money ever gains back what was left behind. ttul, the OLd Drone (c) Permission is granted to freely copy this document in any form, or to print for any use. (w)Opinions are not necessarily facts. Use at own risk. 7797 --- þ QMPro 1.53 þ "Where there are fruits & nuts, there are beekeepers" Article 8852 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!xfer.kren.nm.kr!newsfeed.dacom.co.kr!chollian!TECFO1 From: TECFO1@chollian.dacom.co.kr (õ¸®¾È NEWS GROUP ÀÌ¿ëÀÚ) Newsgroups: alt.non.sequitur,alt.tv.simpsons,alt.tv.simpsons.itchy-scratchy,soc.culture.mexican,soc.culture.mexican.american,soc.culture.spain,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.music.korn,alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.fan.ok-soda,alt.genius.bill-palmer Subject: Re: What bumblebee are we talking about? Followup-To: alt.non.sequitur,alt.tv.simpsons,alt.tv.simpsons.itchy-scratchy,soc.culture.mexican,soc.culture.mexican.american,soc.culture.spain,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.music.korn,alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.fan.ok-soda,alt.genius.bill-palmer Date: 7 Jul 1997 07:30:50 GMT Organization: DACOM Internet Service Lines: 34 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5pq5va$psp$1@news2.dacom.co.kr> References: <5ocjt2$24e@news.enter.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mail.chollian.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu alt.non.sequitur:16909 alt.tv.simpsons:175939 alt.tv.simpsons.itchy-scratchy:3849 soc.culture.mexican:82742 soc.culture.mexican.american:26207 soc.culture.spain:152149 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8852 alt.music.korn:1590 alt.fan.karl-malden.nose:69010 alt.fan.ok-soda:3751 m f f m m a Clair (Clair@shaw1.demon.co.uk) wrote: : In article <1KuXRKBDHpuzIwre@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk>, Clayton Smith : writes : >In article , Martin Bulmer : > writes : >>In article <33c2d5aa.11853803@news.enter.net>, Phil Oliver >AMBLOCKbiosys.net> writes : >>>On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:09:21 -0400, Clint Walsh : >>> wrote: : >>> : >>>>He already has his own show on Channel Ocho. : >>> : >>>I don't get Channel Ocho. : >>> : >>>-Phil Oliver : >>>----- : >>>"I'm mean if you going to be hypocrite like the rest of us : >>>just admit you posturing potser." - Ruwan Jayatilleke, in : >>> : >> : >>I don't get Channel Ocho. : >I don't get any channels. I'm in England! HAHAHAHAHAHAH...a : You do! I'm from England! You get BBC, ITV, C4 & C5 : -- : Clair Article 8853 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!ais.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!winternet.com!not-for-mail From: Elroy Rogers Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Swarm & Queen Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 09:19:12 -0700 Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc Lines: 72 Message-ID: <33BA7F4A.75C0@starpoint.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lunar-6.starpoint.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I; 16bit) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8853 Ira Seskin wrote: > > Strange season, not that I have had any other to compare it to. My bees > swarmed. I guess they didnt like their new home, all the good treats I > provided, fresh water etc. Anyway , I didnt think I could do it, but I > captured the swarm. Queen with it. Problem is, she got..er.. underfoot > while I was transporting the branch. Real underfoot. Squashed by my > Rebock's underfoot. > > I dumped them back into my hive ( I only have one, and didnt expect then > to swarm in their first few months when starting with package bees) > quickly added two supers to give the bees more room, and they have decided > to stay for now, no doubt because they were queenless. > > Do I buy a new queen, or let them do the work, or does anyone think they > wouldn't have left unless there were some queen cells already started? > Local beekeepers told me to leave the hive ..er... be ( bee?) for a few > weeks. Local Bee Inspector ( real friendly and helpful said the same thing > on the phone and said in a couple of weeks he willl come over my house and > open the hive and check it for a new queen. Should I wait? Thoughts? > > -I- > > -- > When A hive swarms they feel over crowded and there is no room for all of them. If the supers you put on is foundation they probably couldn't draw it out fast enough. When a hive decides to swarm it starts 12 to 13 days earlier by making queen cells. The first one getting ready to emerge will start a piping sound when the old queen hears this she can't kill the new emerging queen because the workers won't let her. The Old queen then takes all the old bees with her and leaves the hive or swarms. Right now a few days later your new queen is out and is probably on her mating flight if weather permits, she will probably in the hive and laying in about a 7 to 10 days. I would quess requeening at this time could be risky, because the bees will prefer there own queen over another. I would wait and she if the new queen survives her mating flight and see if she is acceptable, or is gentle. Good luck Elroy > /| __ > / | ,-~ / > Y :| // / > | jj /( .^ > >-"~"-v" > /^ ^ Y > /o o | > ( ~T~ j > >._-' _./ I'm > / "~" | Having A Bad > Y _, | HARE > /| ;-"~ _ l Day > / l/ ,-"~ \ > \//\/ .- \ > Y / Y > ) > l I ! > > ]\ _\ /"\ > (" ~----( ~ Y. ) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ->Bugs the Wonder Bunny<- > > ira_seskin@bmugbos.org (e- mail only... no attachments) > iraseski@xensei.com (e-mail when sending attachements) > http://www.xensei.com/users/iraseski > > "Live Free or Die" \ Article 8855 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!ais.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news-master!not-for-mail From: Drmobius@cris.com (Alex Kooney) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Plastic Foundation Date: 7 Jul 1997 21:53:22 GMT Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5progi$slj@chronicle.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mariner.concentric.net X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8855 I started using Pierco Plastic foundation this year. Previouly I used Duragilt. I put both types of foundation side by side on different hives. Depending on the hive, the bees either drew the Pierco first or drew both at the same time. I hived a new swarm on undrawn Pierco foundation and noticed the queen started laying in the undrawn cells. As the larvae grew the bees drew the cells out around them. I did not notice this on the shallower Duragilt cells. I just finished pulling all of my supers off (SE Lousiana) and both types of foundation made good even combs. I use a tangential extractor and the Pierco frames are nearly immune to distortion under high speeds. The Duragilt would occassionally bulge, tearing a line on the opposite side. Combined with the ease of assembly, my experience this season leads me to only use the Pierco in the future. Timothy Kooney Article 8856 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!ais.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!winternet.com!not-for-mail From: Elroy Rogers Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: News group posting Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 19:54:16 -0700 Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc Lines: 3 Message-ID: <33BC65D8.2BAD@starpoint.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: orion-3.starpoint.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I; 16bit) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8856 I don't know if anyone else is having problems reading new post to this news group, I only see answers and not the original post on some threads. Is there any thing that can be done to eliminate the problem. Article 8857 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ais.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!winternet.com!not-for-mail From: Elroy Rogers Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queen excluders, can they be too small? Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 20:34:25 -0700 Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc Lines: 32 Message-ID: <33BC6ED1.2E89@starpoint.net> References: <33BBAE0C.41C6@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu> <33BBC92D.1B10@sprintmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.146.5.230 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I; 16bit) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8857 Jon Iverson wrote: > > Randy Nessler wrote: > > > > I installed supers on three hives on June 12, with a queen excluder > > between the super and the brood chamber. Last night I opened the hives > > for a look, and there was no activity in the supers (no comb being > > drawn, and very few bees present in the super). These are first year > > hives, so I guess they might not be ready, though one hive has both deep > > brood chambers in production. The bees are three banded Italians, and > > I've never seen different sized openings offered for the queen excluder, > > so I guess I just need to be patient? > > -- > > Randy Nessler rnessler@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu > > Views expressed are my own. > > Let them draw out the comb and then put in the excluder. The eggs the > queen lays in the super will hatch and be replaced with honey. Two weeks ago I had place a super on with no queen excuder between super and brood chamber, a week later they had already put up 4 frames of honey. Last week I placed supers on 15 more hives, I looked back on a couple hives 10 minutes later to see if they were in the super, the middle two frames were covered with bees. The second brood chamber was only half full, with queen in the second brood chamber. On all my colonies I switched the two brood chamber before putting on the supers. I think the bees have to become overcrowded before they will start moving through the queen excluder, which can cause swarming. I think queen excluders real name should be honey excluder. I hope my 2 cents will help Elroy Article 8858 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!ais.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!winternet.com!not-for-mail From: Elroy Rogers Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: What happened to the beeman? Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 20:50:35 -0700 Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc Lines: 3 Message-ID: <33BC730A.6838@starpoint.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.146.5.230 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I; 16bit) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8858 I have been trying to log on to his sight, but message says bad request. href=http//www.kuai.se/~beeman/ Article 8859 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wolsi.com!news.aros.net!news.cs.utah.edu!news.cc.utah.edu!not-for-mail From: Lin Richardson Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bad or worsening reaction to stings? Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 18:29:19 -0600 Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Lines: 32 Message-ID: <33C189DF.2380E3CB@m.cc.utah.edu> Reply-To: lin.richardson@m.cc.utah.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: ctsasync60.cc.utah.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; U) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8859 Hello All, I have, in the past seen posts dealing with people who were worried about the reaction they were developing to bee stings. I experienced this same reaction myself, and was a bit concerned that I woul dhave to give up beekeeping. I went to my physician and he sent me to an allergist, and for the past 6 months or so I have been undergoing treatments to lessen my reaction to stings instead of it getting steadily worse with each sting. I am pleased to report that the treatment has been a complete and overwhealming success, and if there are any of you out there who would be interested in the doccumentation, I've been keeping a little journal of what the proceedure has been, etc. I now continue to get stung, but have no sneezing, stuffiness, or congestion, and the swelling with a sting has decreased probably 75% or more. In my mind, this is pretty neat stuff. I am not connected to any doctor or clinic, and only suggest if you would like to read my doccumentation and are interested in something similar for yourself that you contact your physician. e-mail me at lin.richardson@m.cc.utah.edu if you would like an e-mail copy of my experience. regards Lin http://www.cc.utah.edu/~lbr9649 Article 8860 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hnnutt@aol.com (HNNutt) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bad or worsening reaction to stings? Date: 8 Jul 1997 02:39:26 GMT Lines: 12 Message-ID: <19970708023900.WAA20721@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <33C189DF.2380E3CB@m.cc.utah.edu> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8860 Would like very much for you to E-mail me your documentation. I have only had bees for a few months. I was under the impression that stings would help to build a kind of immunity but, their reaction seems to be worsening rather than improving. I don't have a bee suit yet. Saturday I was adding some supers and had pulled on a pair of sleeves cut from a heave shirt. One slipped down and I got about a dozen stings on my right bicept. They don't affect my breathing but the swelling and soreness was unbelievable. Your response will be appreciated. HNNutt@aol.com Article 8861 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Abandon hives Date: 8 Jul 1997 02:50:00 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 20 Message-ID: <01bc8b49$15fe6bc0$baa592cf@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.165.186 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8861 For a number of years I have driven by several hives that set back in a wooded area. Yesterday I stopped to walk back and see if I could identify the owner so as to talk with him. I have been keeping bees two years now and thought that this beekeeper might provide me with an additonal source of knowledge. Upon examining the hives even a non beekeeper could tell no one had tended these hives in years. The weeds had grown up in front of the entrances, several of the tops(commercial types) were partially off, they were weathered and the paint was peeling. I could find no name branded on the hives. My questions are these; I have no interest in the equipment but one hive appeared to have a colony in it. This may be a swarm that found this location this year because I doubt that a hive in this area (Illinois) could survive without treatment for mites. I am pondering whether a) it is ethical to move the bees into my equipment because the hives appear to have been abandon b) if so is it just asking for trouble because of disease c)should I notify the state inspector regarding these hives? I would appreciate hearing what members of the group feel is the correct action to be taken. Thanks for your help. Steve Davison Article 8862 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hnnutt@aol.com (HNNutt) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Honey left in the supers Date: 8 Jul 1997 03:01:52 GMT Lines: 30 Message-ID: <19970708030101.XAA22345@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8862 Whew!!! It's sure getting warm in Waco, Texas. I'm spanking new at this bee thing and need a little advice. I started this year with one new hive and a couple of new supers. I was waiting to order package bees when a local bee man ran an ad selling hives with one super and bees for sixty five dollars each. Like an idiot, I figured I needed at least three. A couple of weeks after getting them set in my small orchard, one hive split and swarmed. I caught them and put them in the new hive I assembled myself. I've purchased and added supers until my wife( boss ) has stopped understanding. I currently have 12 supers on 4 hives. They are all full. I don't have an extractor yet and am waiting on a group of bee folks who say they will help but they all get together and do their extracting in one day. My question is: What do I need to do now? Will the honey be okay left in hives several weeks? What will the bees do with no place left to put honey? Could I just buy frames and foundation and trade empty frames for full ones? If so, how do you store frames of honey? I've lifted the lids on the hives with some 3/8" spacers because lots of bees were hanging out on the front of the hives. It has to be hot with the afternoon sun on those hives. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks HNNutt@AOL.Com Article 8863 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ix.netcom.com!news From: "Jack Griffes" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queen excluders, can they be too small? Date: 8 Jul 1997 03:04:48 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 30 Message-ID: <01bc8b4b$a9a80460$456ed9ce@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> References: <33BBAE0C.41C6@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu> <33BBC92D.1B10@sprintmail.com> <33BC6ED1.2E89@starpoint.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: tol-oh3-05.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Jul 07 10:04:48 PM CDT 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8863 Elroy Rogers wrote in article <33BC6ED1.2E89@starpoint.net>... > I think the bees have to become overcrowded before they will start > moving through the queen excluder, which can cause swarming. I think > queen excluders real name should be honey excluder. You need to have brood basically solid across the top of the box on which you place the excluder. In other words if the bees would normally expand their semi-spherical shaped broodnest up into the space above the excluder then the excluder will not inhibit them in the least. If you set up the broodnest otherwise then some bee strains will just live below the excluder more or less - while the good ones will even then go right through it like it wasn't there. You might do well to note that the Aebi's took the world record for honey production from a single queen colony using a queen excluder over the brood nest - so they don't exclude honey if'n they are used correctly. -- Jack Griffes Ottawa Lake, MI USA e-mail: Griffes at ix.netcom.com Web site: http://pw2.netcom.com/~griffes/ "Always be nice to other people, they outnumber you 5.5 billion to 1..." - Steve White! " Article 8864 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk!fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk!Clayton From: Clayton Smith Newsgroups: alt.non.sequitur,alt.tv.simpsons,alt.tv.simpsons.itchy-scratchy,soc.culture.mexican,soc.culture.mexican.american,soc.culture.spain,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.music.korn,alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.fan.ok-soda,alt.genius.bill-palmer Subject: Re: What bumblebee are we talking about? Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 18:08:23 +0100 Organization: Civacon-OPW Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <5ocjt2$24e@news.enter.net> <33c2d5aa.11853803@news.enter.net> <1KuXRKBDHpuzIwre@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk [194.222.221.91] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <5KoCwp8X5vsH4kTvzYrR2js3bn> Lines: 34 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu alt.non.sequitur:16929 alt.tv.simpsons:176124 alt.tv.simpsons.itchy-scratchy:3854 soc.culture.mexican:82794 soc.culture.mexican.american:26229 soc.culture.spain:152247 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8864 alt.music.korn:1605 alt.fan.karl-malden.nose:69442 alt.fan.ok-soda:3757 In article , Clair writes >In article <1KuXRKBDHpuzIwre@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk>, Clayton Smith > writes >>In article , Martin Bulmer >> writes >>>In article <33c2d5aa.11853803@news.enter.net>, Phil Oliver >>AMBLOCKbiosys.net> writes >>>>On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:09:21 -0400, Clint Walsh >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>He already has his own show on Channel Ocho. >>>> >>>>I don't get Channel Ocho. >>>> >>>>-Phil Oliver >>>>----- >>>>"I'm mean if you going to be hypocrite like the rest of us >>>>just admit you posturing potser." - Ruwan Jayatilleke, in >>>> >>> >>>I don't get Channel Ocho. >>I don't get any channels. I'm in England! HAHAHAHAHAHAH...a >You do! I'm from England! You get BBC, ITV, C4 & C5 Oh extreamly funny. :> (forced) -- Clayton Smith Encore on IRC - Find Me On: #mirc_lounge #korn (if I'm not banned! #sepultura and sometimes #chat Clayton@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk Whoever gave us opinions caused a lot of aggravation... Article 8865 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk!fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk!Clayton From: Clayton Smith Newsgroups: alt.non.sequitur,alt.tv.simpsons,alt.tv.simpsons.itchy-scratchy,soc.culture.mexican,soc.culture.mexican.american,soc.culture.spain,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.music.korn,alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.fan.ok-soda,alt.genius.bill-palmer Subject: Re: What bumblebee are we talking about? Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 18:08:50 +0100 Organization: Civacon-OPW Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <5ocjt2$24e@news.enter.net> <5pq5va$psp$1@news2.dacom.co.kr> NNTP-Posting-Host: fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk [194.222.221.91] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <5KoCwp8X5vsH4kTvzYrR2js3bn> Lines: 21 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu alt.non.sequitur:16930 alt.tv.simpsons:176125 alt.tv.simpsons.itchy-scratchy:3855 soc.culture.mexican:82795 soc.culture.mexican.american:26230 soc.culture.spain:152248 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8865 alt.music.korn:1606 alt.fan.karl-malden.nose:69443 alt.fan.ok-soda:3758 In article <5pq5va$psp$1@news2.dacom.co.kr>, =?iso-8859-1?q?=C3=B5=B8=AE =BE=C8_NEWS_GROUP_=C0=CC=BF=EB=C0=DA?= writes > >m >f >f >m >m > >a thanks for that -- Clayton Smith Encore on IRC - Find Me On: #mirc_lounge #korn (if I'm not banned! #sepultura and sometimes #chat Clayton@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk Whoever gave us opinions caused a lot of aggravation... Article 8866 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp.sprintmail.com!nntp.sprintmail.com!news@sprintmail.com From: Howard Bowles Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bad or worsening reaction to stings? Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 10:12:24 -0700 Lines: 28 Message-ID: <33C12378.FDE@sprintmail.com> References: <33C189DF.2380E3CB@m.cc.utah.edu> <19970708023900.WAA20721@ladder02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: hbowles@sprintmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: sdn-ts-002watacop12.dialsprint.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-SI304B01 (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8866 HNNutt wrote: > > Would like very much for you to E-mail me your documentation. I have only > had bees for a few months. I was under the impression that stings would > help to build > a kind of immunity but, their reaction seems to be worsening rather than > improving. I don't have a bee suit yet. Saturday I was adding some supers > and had pulled on a pair of sleeves cut from a heave shirt. One slipped > down and I got > about a dozen stings on my right bicept. They don't affect my breathing > but the > swelling and soreness was unbelievable. Your response will be appreciated. > > HNNutt@aol.com By all means see your doctor for his opinion. However, I have and continue to have similar reactions to bee stings as you describe. At the suggestion of the consulting nurse at my HMO I tried an over-the-counter antihistimine. If I take one tablet just after a sting or stings it *greatly* minimizes the swelling, itching and "heat" that I sense near the sting site. One day, not a good one by any measure, I received two stings on my leg and later the same day a sting on my cheek. I had taken an antihistimine tablet after the first two stings in the morning and when the third occurred later in the day, while it certainly hurt, did not swell nearly as I had anticipated. Good luck. Howard Article 8867 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wolsi.com!news.aros.net!news.cs.utah.edu!news.cc.utah.edu!not-for-mail From: Lin Richardson Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bad or worsening reaction to stings? Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 00:31:39 -0600 Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Lines: 45 Message-ID: <33C1DECA.30EE99E@m.cc.utah.edu> References: <33C189DF.2380E3CB@m.cc.utah.edu> <19970708023900.WAA20721@ladder02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: lin.richardson@m.cc.utah.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: ctsasync30.cc.utah.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; U) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8867 HNNutt wrote: > Would like very much for you to E-mail me your documentation. I have > only > had bees for a few months. I was under the impression that stings > would > help to build > a kind of immunity but, their reaction seems to be worsening rather > than > improving. ... Well, I was told a lot of stories by different doctors. I guess it all boils down to how your body reacts to venom. You have about a 50% chance of getting worse and the same of getting better reactions over time. For people who have some tolerance to the stuff, stings over time only increase their body's efficiency in dealing with the venom, hence the tales of beekeepers who sting their hired help or family members over a period of time to build up their 'immunity'. If you're body has an incorrect response to venom (i.e. it tries to kill itself when you are exposed to venom) it will only get more and more severe over time until it really does kill you (i.e. anaphallaxsys(sp)) When you get stung by a bee if you have hives on any part of your body that didn't get stung, or if you have watery eyes, sneezing, congestion, stuffiness, difficulty breathing - then you have systemic reactions to bee venom (even if you get stung on the head or face, it is still considered systemic and serious if it makes your sinuses clog up or eyes water.) You should seek professional medical advise if you have any of the above, or if the swelling goes past 2 joints (i.e. a sting on the hand swells up past the elbow) This was the situation I was in. For my notes on how I was treated and, in my case, cured of this problem link to my home page at http://www.cc.utah.edu/~lbr9649/immuno.txt or e-mail me and I'll get you a copy. This is not a gimmick, nobody selling anything, only something for you to discuss with your physician. It worked for me. regards Lin lin.richardson@m.cc.utah.edu http://www.cc.utah.edu/~lbr9649/ Article 8868 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: beecrofter@aol.com (BeeCrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bad or worsening reaction to stings? Date: 8 Jul 1997 11:47:24 GMT Lines: 21 Message-ID: <19970708114700.HAA15859@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <19970708023900.WAA20721@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8868 In article <19970708023900.WAA20721@ladder02.news.aol.com>, hnnutt@aol.com (HNNutt) writes: >One slipped >down and I got >about a dozen stings on my right bicept. They don't affect my breathing >but the >swelling and soreness was unbelievable. Your response will be appreciated. > > By any chance was this the 2nd time you were stung this season? I find that the first sting of the season is relatively minor but it sets up your immune response and the 2nd stings of the season hurt and swell more after that things go pretty much milder. Over the counter bennadryll helps but remember the pill takes about a half hour to get into your system so if you are allergic you better have a bee sting kit with the injector from your Dr. Article 8869 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pollinator@aol.com (Pollinator) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Mason Bees Date: 8 Jul 1997 14:06:02 GMT Lines: 22 Message-ID: <19970708140601.KAA20728@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8869 In article <19970705024700.WAA05290@ladder02.news.aol.com>, jjcardinal@aol.com (JJCardinal) writes: >Can anyone tell me if theyMason Bees are considered "common" in Michigan >and if they are, do you think they could be attracted with the new "Mason >Bee Homes"? >Louise Dawson Mason bees (Osmia) should be present in Michigan. I don't know how common, but they certainly can be encouraged. There are many species. The blue orchard bee and a couple others can be purchased from several suppliers. Placing homesites may draw in some. But remember that many of these bees orient to a specific plant, and the adult life stage probably only exists during the bloom of that plant. If you want Osmia bees for, say apple pollination, you need to have the nesting blocks up well before apple bloom. By now they'll be in the dormant phase of life. Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC The Pollination Scene: http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html Article 8870 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pollinator@aol.com (Pollinator) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Mason Bees Date: 8 Jul 1997 14:07:02 GMT Lines: 25 Message-ID: <19970708140700.KAA17301@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <19970705024700.WAA05290@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8870 In article <19970705024700.WAA05290@ladder02.news.aol.com>, jjcardinal@aol.com (JJCardinal) writes: >Can anyone tell me if theyMason Bees are considered "common" in Michigan >and if they are, do you think they could be attracted with the new "Mason >Bee Homes"? >Louise Dawson Mason bees (Osmia) should be present in Michigan. I don't know how common, but they certainly can be encouraged. There are many species. The blue orchard bee and a couple others can be purchased from several suppliers. Placing homesites may draw in some. But remember that many of these bees orient to a specific plant, and the adult life stage probably only exists during the bloom of that plant. If you want Osmia bees for, say apple pollination, you need to have the nesting blocks up well before apple bloom. By now they'll be in the dormant phase of life. Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC The Pollination Scene: http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA Practical Pollination Page http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html Article 8871 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!mreddy.comp.glam.ac.UK!not-for-mail From: mreddy@REMOVEglam.ac.uk (Mike Reddy) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Welsh black bees Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 15:35:42 +0000 Organization: Dept of Computer Studies, Glamorgan University Lines: 54 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <01bc7693$31f2d840$f1c448c2@default> <1Pga7GA44jrzEwbK@emphasys.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: mreddy.comp.glam.ac.uk (193.63.130.40) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Access: 16 334 522 X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8871 I wrote: >>You may not be able to move the bees. There are cases where a bee nest >>itself is protected. So be careful. If you can give me more details, I can >>raise the issue with our local beekeepers association. Alyn W. Ashworth wrote: >I have never heard of such a case, and my understanding is that honey >bees are not a protected species (in the UK at least). There is a youth hostel south of Snowdon which has a wild colony of Welsh black bees in its eaves and roof. The wardens have been informed in no uncertain terms that the bees are not to be removed or disturbed. So there is at least one example for you. >Rather than >raising ?legal? issues with local beekeepers, just get someone to move >them for you - here in Liverpool you would have a queue of beekeepers >anxious to get a good colony. I rather thought that the original poster was being quite responsible by making such a request for guidance. Whether you agree with my response is fair enough. >If no local beekeepers want to make the >effort, then you should be able to pay the local council to exterminate >them as a last resort. A rather arrogant view given the dire need for varroa resistant strains and the common sense argument for a wide range of biodiversity, which would reduce the impact of any new parasite in future. Only my opinion, but I often have to make the case for neighbours not destroying bumble bee nests; it seems that any flying insect with a sting is often equated with "Killer Bees". Rather sad really, as they can often be accomodated with little or no fuss. -- Email: mreddy@glam.ac.uk CU-Seeme: 193.63.130.40 (On request) Web: http://www.comp.glam.ac.uk/pages/staff/mreddy/ Snail: J228, Dept. of Computer Studies, University of Glamorgan, Pontypridd, Mid Glamorgan. CF37 1DL Wales, UK. TEL: +44 1443 482 240 Fax: +44 1443 482 715 -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.3i mQCPAzBVX74AAAEEANXA10mBmyoaLrU7aYz/8o93VaY4p+cJl+eAK0pIt/m9X1nK Drv/edboaWLxnx2L3L8Er/qRt1au+gk4FWE591zx6jv2TrJvWqBm/zQkaEnt9Pgk sgfjDleH8PoIuIJCC9I5jum1hObddewhcfvk8m8lUXn7bRlNfqmJI3HrZ0ddABEB AAG0Hk1pa2UgUmVkZHkgPG1yZWRkeUBnbGFtLmFjLnVrPg== =xTit -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Article 8872 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!top.mts.net!usenet From: Darryl Hill Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Check This Out!!! Date: 8 Jul 1997 15:52:55 GMT Organization: n/a Lines: 1 Message-ID: <5ptnon$7vd2@top.MTS.Net> NNTP-Posting-Host: swrvas01-p06.mts.net Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8872 http://freedomstarr.com/?HI3009665 Article 8873 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!argonet.co.uk!argbd67 From: Nick Cooke Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: .Hot Teens etc. Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 21:43:13 BST Organization: ArgoNet, but does not reflect its views Lines: 13 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <5pam34$6os$751@news.internetmci.com> <33B8FED7.315C@starpoint.net> Reply-To: Nick Cooke NNTP-Posting-Host: ak114.du.pipex.com X-Newsreader: NewsAgent 0.84 for RISC OS Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8873 In article <33B8FED7.315C@starpoint.net>, Elroy Rogers wrote: > > The Name Teen-Porno Represents Models that are 18 Years of age or older > > This is a news group that should not be polluted with this garbage, I'am > sure there are lots of under aged kids that have read this. I hope your > a person that will respect the wishes of others and not post here again. > Was it a good idea to quote this in all its offensiveness complete with the web address? Article 8874 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!208.198.194.10!news.datacruz.com!not-for-mail From: "Wishin" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Uninvited words on my desktop Date: 8 Jul 1997 17:17:29 GMT Organization: Datacruz Internet Lines: 3 Message-ID: <01bc8bc2$b85c3c20$85c2c6d0@cpcustom> References: <5pql5n$o9u$8770@roadrunner.miracle.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1-5.datacruz.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8874 I am receiving some obscene articles - isn't this supposed to BEE about BEES? I have kids on this computer! Article 8875 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!208.198.194.10!news.datacruz.com!not-for-mail From: "Wishin" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: .Hot Teens that want to be fucked *&%$# Date: 8 Jul 1997 20:08:38 GMT Organization: Datacruz Internet Lines: 10 Message-ID: <01bc8bda$a18af0a0$84c2c6d0@cpcustom> References: <5pam34$6os$751@news.internetmci.com> <33B8FED7.315C@starpoint.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1-4.datacruz.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8875 Please get this garbage off !! My kids are trying to learn about bees with me here!!!! Elroy Rogers wrote in article <33B8FED7.315C@starpoint.net>... > ;asdlfj@sdal;fj.com wrote: > > > > Looking for XXX Pictures of Teens having Sex ? Then you've come to the > > right place. Teen-Porno has tons of Teens #$@#$%^&*())_)_+!@##$%$%^. Article 8876 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!newstf02.news.aol.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: nilamda@aol.com (NILAMDA) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bad or worsening reaction to stings? Date: 8 Jul 1997 22:11:30 GMT Lines: 13 Message-ID: <19970708221101.SAA15979@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <19970708023900.WAA20721@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL, http://www.aol.co.uk X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8876 In article <19970708023900.WAA20721@ladder02.news.aol.com>, hnnutt@aol.com (HNNutt) writes: > I don't have a bee suit yet. You could get stung in a vein and the venom go straight to your heart. A local beekeeper used to say "I'd rather be a live coward than a dead hero" Get some protection man. Tony Malin RUGBY UK Article 8877 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wwa.com!not-for-mail From: "David Bergman" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Abandon hives Date: 8 Jul 1997 22:25:05 GMT Organization: IPC Lines: 53 Message-ID: <01bc8bed$d6a55240$1f3cf1cf@bergda.ipc.org> References: <01bc8b49$15fe6bc0$baa592cf@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: pool1-030.wwa.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8877 Steve Having had to burn my colonies due to transfer of foulbrood from used equipment, I would be high cautious about picking the equipment up. My rule of thumb now is I would take and burn all wax and frames, and scorch the inside of the boxes and reuse them. It's just not worth it. Regarding your theory of the live hive- based on the mite problem we have had in Illinois, there is NO WAY that this could have been there long term, so I agree with your guess that it was a swarm that has repopulated the previously vacated equipment. An inspector might be able to give you the name of the previous owner and some help with foulbrood detection. As to the ethics, I can't really offer too much advice. Abandoned hive hurt other beekeepers due to disease, and should be reported, so you would be doing a service to other beekeepers in the area. But I'm not one to just go using someone else's stuff. Best of luck. Dave Bergman, Third Lake, Illinois scdavison@postoffice.worldnet.att.net wrote in article <01bc8b49$15fe6bc0$baa592cf@default>... > For a number of years I have driven by several hives that set back in a > wooded area. Yesterday I stopped to walk back and see if I could identify > the owner so as to talk with him. I have been keeping bees two years now > and thought that this beekeeper might provide me with an additonal source > of knowledge. Upon examining the hives even a non beekeeper could tell no > one had tended these hives in years. The weeds had grown up in front of the > entrances, several of the tops(commercial types) were partially off, they > were weathered and the paint was peeling. I could find no name branded on > the hives. My questions are these; I have no interest in the equipment but > one hive appeared to have a colony in it. This may be a swarm that found > this location this year because I doubt that a hive in this area (Illinois) > could survive without treatment for mites. I am pondering whether a) it is > ethical to move the bees into my equipment because the hives appear to have > been abandon b) if so is it just asking for trouble because of disease > c)should I notify the state inspector regarding these hives? I would > appreciate hearing what members of the group feel is the correct action to > be taken. > > Thanks for your help. > Steve Davison > Article 8878 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-in.iadfw.net!news-f.iadfw.net!usenet From: busykngt@airmail.net (BusyKnight) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Off Topic: Boy!, am I HOT Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 09:18:46 GMT Organization: INTERNET AMERICA Lines: 44 Message-ID: X-Orig-Message-ID: <5puns4$rea@library.airnews.net> Reply-To: busykngt@mail.airmail.net NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Host: gw6-ppp40.its.iadfw.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8878 Look bee folks, here is Global Internet Rule Number One: The Internet can't be controlled (and that in large part is the beauty of it); in it's worse case, it is anarchy and in it's best case, it is semi-controlled confusion. (Free speach and all that, y'know?) I have been on "the 'net" for several years now and have watched it's explosive growth. Included in this growth are the so called "spammers" - those individuals or companies who post their message to the whole world; without solicitation on the part of anyone. This is what you and your kids have been subjected to in our beekeeping newsgroup the last few days. You may find this difficult to believe, but we have been VERY lucky so far to have not experienced more of it. The WORSE thing you can do is to post a public comment about it back to the newsgroup - especially just hitting the "follow-up post", which has the effect of re-posting the offensive subject titles, etc. This serves no purpose whatsoever. What you can do, is contact your ISP and complain. If ISPs are *bugged* enough (pardon my pun), they will eventually get the message and fix the problem by forcing more sophisticated screening/blocking software to be developed or some other equally imaginative process. The most successful ISPs will be those who meet the demand of their clients by offering features that are in demand by the public (including some mechanism to block such offensive postings from your household). Humans being what they are, the postings ain't gona stop. If you also have e-mail, you may have noticed the incredible increase in unsolidicted e-mail you're now receiving compared to say, a year ago. So it is NOT just our little beekeeping newsgroup, the whole internet infrastructure suffers from these newly found mass marketeers. (After all, it is a money thang, y'know?...where else can you spend a few pennys and reach millions of people?) BusyKnight Dallas, TX (...and gettin' pretty HOT in Texas these days!) Article 8879 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.bu.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!not-for-mail From: bill greenrose Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queen excluders, can they be too small? Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 21:29:23 -0400 Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Lines: 75 Message-ID: <33C2E973.1D3DBFB@valley.net> References: <33BBAE0C.41C6@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu> <33BBC92D.1B10@sprintmail.com> <33BBC993.41C6@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: v2-p-144.valley.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8879 Randy Nessler wrote: > Jon Iverson wrote: > > > > Randy Nessler wrote: > > > > > > I installed supers on three hives on June 12, with a queen > excluder > > > between the super and the brood chamber. Last night I opened the > hives > > > for a look, and there was no activity in the supers (no comb being > > > > drawn, and very few bees present in the super). These are first > year > > > hives, so I guess they might not be ready, though one hive has > both deep > > > brood chambers in production. The bees are three banded Italians, > and > > > I've never seen different sized openings offered for the queen > excluder, > > > so I guess I just need to be patient? > > > -- > > > Randy Nessler rnessler@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu > > > Views expressed are my own. > > > > Let them draw out the comb and then put in the excluder. The eggs > the > > queen lays in the super will hatch and be replaced with honey. > > Such an easy answer! A big DUHH for me. Thanks for the > excellent > advice. > -- > Randy Nessler rnessler@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu > Views expressed are my own. greetings, here's my experience [first time] for what it's worth. i added my first shallow super [without excluder] to my first deep of my first [and currently only] hive last thursday. i did this, not to get honey for me, but to give my bees room to expand, because they really exploded in comb, egg and honey production the previous week [i live in new hampshire and we went from lingering, cold winter, to hot summer in a couple of weeks.]. i have another deep on order, but figured they needed the space immediately. [deep is pretty much packed, and there's a fair amount of brace comb in it.] yesterday, i checked the hive, and they were drawing comb on 7 of 11 frames, with 4 of the frames showing pretty good early comb development. i checked again today, and they were actively storing honey in the middle 4 frames, even though they were less than 50% drawn, and the comb that was drawn was only about half the normal depth. guess they really needed the space. no sign of the queen having made it up to the super [no eggs], but it didn't seem to slow them down at all. LOTS of bees were in the super. i guess my take on this is, if they need the space, then they will utilize it. if they don't start drawing comb immediately, then don't worry, as they probably have sufficient space down below. when they need the super, then they'll use it. hope this helps. bill ######################################## don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player greenros@medicalmedia.com [work] bill.greenrose@valley.net [home] http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 Article 8880 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.bu.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!not-for-mail From: bill greenrose Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: News group posting Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 21:42:19 -0400 Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Lines: 41 Message-ID: <33C2EC7B.B7DE8428@valley.net> References: <33BC65D8.2BAD@starpoint.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: v2-p-144.valley.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8880 Elroy Rogers wrote: > I don't know if anyone else is having problems reading new post to > this > news group, I only see answers and not the original post on some > threads. Is there any thing that can be done to eliminate the problem. hi elroy, it might be a timing thing. in order to keep enough space on their drives, your provider probably only keeps a certain volume of historical postings and dumps the rest. each day's download can total several hundred megs of data. i know, because we turned off our news server at work for that very reason. if the original post was from prior to their last dump, then you will only see the reply, and not the original. sometimes, you may show an original post in your listing, but if you try to open it you will get an error message. same cause. it's one of the reasons that i like to keep as much of the original post in my replies as is relevant, as providers have different cutoff times and some readers may be left hanging. if the problem is recent, then your provider might have cut the time they wait before dumping old posts, to increase their disk space for things like emails. if they upgrade their hardware and get more disk space, then they may go back to the longer cut off. a call to them could confirm or deny this possibility. hope this helps. bill ######################################## don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player greenros@medicalmedia.com [work] bill.greenrose@valley.net [home] http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 Article 8881 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!chi-news.cic.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: beecrofter@aol.com (BeeCrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Plastic Foundation Date: 9 Jul 1997 02:42:26 GMT Lines: 15 Message-ID: <19970709024201.WAA08879@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <5progi$slj@chronicle.concentric.net> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8881 In article <5progi$slj@chronicle.concentric.net>, Drmobius@cris.com (Alex Kooney) writes: >The Duragilt would occassionally bulge, tearing a line >on the opposite side. I have been using an italian hand cranked extractor from Brushy Mountain and have been wondering why the only blowouts i have gotten were on the backside of the comb when extracting the fronts. I am on my 7th carton of pierco now and like the stuff a lot I only hope it proves to be as durable as wood in the long run. BTW anybody know who has the best price per carton for pierco frames in a per carton qty? Article 8882 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: beecrofter@aol.com (BeeCrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queen Problem Date: 9 Jul 1997 02:42:29 GMT Lines: 10 Message-ID: <19970709024201.WAA05481@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <5plcla$2oo$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8882 The best requeening method I know of is to make a nuc with the new queen and then make a nuc with the old queen after the new one is laying strong. Unite the new queen with the colony using the newspaper method and keep the old queen in a nuc as a backup should something go wrong. I learned this from an article by a beekeeper named Imrie in the Brushy mountain catalog. This beekeeper is in Maryland I believe and if anyone knows him let him know I have seen jars of his honey as far as New London CT with a piece of cut comb in the jar. Article 8883 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!167.142.225.6!newsrelay.netins.net!news.netins.net!not-for-mail From: drox Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Crooked comb Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 23:16:07 -0500 Organization: Malfunction Junction Lines: 11 Message-ID: <33C31085.D382EE46@hotmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: desm-28-46.dialup.netins.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8883 I am new to beekeeping, having just started with two hives this spring. They got a rather late start and are just beginning to draw out comb in the supers for (hopefully) cut comb honey. I started with strips of wax foundation about 1 1/2" wide at the tops of the frames only, and the bees are building wavy crooked comb. I am concerned that the frames will stick together once they are filled with honey and I try to take them out of the supers. Is this a valid concern? Is there anything I can do about it? Thanx. -Drox Article 8884 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!vtaix.cc.vt.edu!adamf From: adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: .Hot Teens that want to be fucked *&%$# Date: 9 Jul 1997 11:24:30 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5pvsde$p3f$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <5pam34$6os$751@news.internetmci.com> <33B8FED7.315C@starpoint.net> <01bc8bda$a18af0a0$84c2c6d0@cpcustom> NNTP-Posting-Host: vtaix.cc.vt.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8884 In article <01bc8bda$a18af0a0$84c2c6d0@cpcustom>, Wishin wrote: >Please get this garbage off !! My kids are trying to learn about bees with >me here!!!! Hi. This *is* truly garbage. But this is Usenet and people can post whatever they want, wherever they want. The best strategy to deal with these post is to ignore them, or try to send the poster's sysadmin a letter stating how they are disrupting a newsgroup you enjoy reading--the news header is a good place to find the poster's posting machine although sadly, often a poster can disguise his/her posting machine well. A thread on the topic of how vile these posts are, although your perogitive, has nothing to do with our friends the bees. :) Adam -- _________________ Adam Finkelstein adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu http://sunsite.unc.edu/bees/adamf Article 8885 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!europa.clark.net!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!vtaix.cc.vt.edu!adamf From: adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Uninvited words on my desktop Date: 9 Jul 1997 11:32:05 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5pvsrl$38d$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <5pql5n$o9u$8770@roadrunner.miracle.net> <01bc8bc2$b85c3c20$85c2c6d0@cpcustom> NNTP-Posting-Host: vtaix.cc.vt.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8885 In article <01bc8bc2$b85c3c20$85c2c6d0@cpcustom>, Wishin wrote: >I am receiving some obscene articles - isn't this supposed to BEE about >BEES? I have kids on this computer! > Read my followup to your last post, or BusyKnight's post. This is Usenet--maybe you should read browse the news.answers newsgroup too-- Obtain some background on Usenet. The beauty of Usenet news is the contextual freedom of posts-- newsgroups have a specific charter, and within the definitions of the charter posts are appropriate. People will often abuse Usenet, if only to GET A RESPONSE from others-- called a troll. By reacting, the essence of the group is diluted. I know how disturbing these posts are, but to have a free Usenet, the best thing to do is to ignore them, or write the poster's sysadmin, or ISP. Hang in there, Adam -- _________________ Adam Finkelstein adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu http://sunsite.unc.edu/bees/adamf Article 8886 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!emphasys.demon.co.uk!alyn From: "Alyn W. Ashworth" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Welsh black bees Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 08:48:58 +0100 Organization: Emphasys Computer Consultants Ltd. Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <01bc7693$31f2d840$f1c448c2@default> <1Pga7GA44jrzEwbK@emphasys.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: emphasys.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: emphasys.demon.co.uk [158.152.242.226] [NO-IDENT] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 3.03a Lines: 71 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8886 In article , Mike Reddy writes criticising my posting. MR: >There is a youth hostel south of Snowdon which has a wild colony of Welsh >black bees in its eaves and roof. The wardens have been informed in no >uncertain terms that the bees are not to be removed or disturbed. So there >is at least one example for you. AWA: I'm sure that you are right - but WHO has informed them, and under what regulations? Also, preservation of feral bees is not, in itself, enough - we need to find out if they are varroa-resistant, and if so breed from them. It is therefore counter-productive for a NO DISTURBANCE blanket ban to be imposed. Hence my first question. MR: >I rather thought that the original poster was being quite responsible by >making such a request for guidance. Whether you agree with my response is >fair enough. AWA: I do agree, but we must be realistic about these things. He wanted help. I recommended that he find a beekeeper to take the bees and ensure their survival. BUT I am not able to do it myself, so I gave him a last resort. I hope to hear that as you seem to be closer to the situation, you may be able to be rescue the bees. I then wrote... >>If no local beekeepers want to make the >>effort, then you should be able to pay the local council to exterminate >>them as a last resort. and you said..... >A rather arrogant view given the dire need for varroa resistant strains and >the common sense argument for a wide range of biodiversity, which would >reduce the impact of any new parasite in future. AWA: I'm not sure how the personal epithet helps. We must always balance the need to preserve wildlife with other considerations. I'm sure that if a colony of bees took up residence in your kitchen, then you would be quite enthusiastic to see them removed, and if no-one came forward to help, but the local council would destroy them, what decision would you make? Remember we are not talking to a beekeeper here, just a well- meaning person. I suggest destruction only if all else fails. MR: > >Only my opinion, but I often have to make the case for neighbours not >destroying bumble bee nests; it seems that any flying insect with a sting >is often equated with "Killer Bees". Rather sad really, as they can often >be accomodated with little or no fuss. > AWA: No problems with this - but it doesn't seem relevant in this case. I note the word OFTEN rather than ALWAYS in your last sentence! -- Alyn W. Ashworth Lancashire & North-West Bee-Keepers' Association. UK. (but I don't speak on their bee-half) http://www.demon.co.uk/emphasys -- Alyn W. Ashworth Emphasys Computer Consultants Ltd. http://www.demon.co.uk/emphasys Article 8887 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: "Jack Griffes" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Honeybee Improvement Program Date: 9 Jul 1997 12:56:25 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 39 Message-ID: <01bc8c67$782f09c0$4b8cb8cd@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tol-oh2-11.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Jul 09 5:56:25 AM PDT 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8887 By way of information HIP continues to work hard toward breeding a bee able to thrive (not just survive) untreated for either mite. Yesterday our team headed by Artificial Insemination (or "Instrumental Insemination") expert, Garrett Dodds, got 66 Virgin queens AI'd using full loads of mixed semen. Using mixed semen gives us the ability to breed 20 some queens (per batch - size of full semen load batches limited by instrument) to exactly the same drones - and simultaneously giving us the ability to breed each queen to around 150 or so drones while Nature only allows each queen to mate with 10-20 and each queen with different drones. Thus in a batch of mixed semen queens that are all sisters for example since they are all bred to exactly the same drones you can now accurately tell which sister(s) got the best genetic combination in their own genetic makeup (since the drones they got mated with were all the same). In natural mating the question is always there if it is the queens genes or the drones that are making the difference in the behaviors shown by the progeny. Mixed semen makes accurate maternal side selection a reality and full loads allow these colonies to function just dandy as full size production colonies thus allowing full testing. If you wish to learn more about HIP our selective breeding protocol is located on my website. And we cordially invite you to help out and become a full fledged HIP Cooperator if you have enough colonies to make that possible. Have a mighty nice day. -- Jack Griffes Ottawa Lake, MI USA e-mail: Griffes at ix.netcom.com Web site: http://pw2.netcom.com/~griffes/ "Always be nice to other people, they outnumber you 5.5 billion to 1..." - Steve White! " Article 8888 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: "Jack Griffes" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Crooked comb Date: 9 Jul 1997 13:09:03 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 49 Message-ID: <01bc8c69$3c3b3860$4b8cb8cd@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> References: <33C31085.D382EE46@hotmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tol-oh2-11.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Jul 09 6:09:03 AM PDT 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8888 drox wrote in article <33C31085.D382EE46@hotmail.com>... > I am new to beekeeping, having just started with two hives this spring. > They got a rather late start and are just beginning to draw out comb in > the supers for (hopefully) cut comb honey. I started with strips of wax > foundation about 1 1/2" wide at the tops of the frames only, and the > bees are building wavy crooked comb. I am concerned that the frames > will stick together once they are filled with honey and I try to take > them out of the supers. Is this a valid concern? Yep ya gotta problem. Combs in removable frame hives need to be arrow straight so that you can put them where you want in any hive body. If they are wavy you can only place them in the set of wavy comb and in exactly the same position as they were drawn in - rendering many manipulations impossible. > Is there anything I > can do about it? Thanx. Hmm - not that I know of at this point as far as actually straightening fully drawn wavy combs but perhaps someone else knows a way - I surely don't know everything. Of course you can make 'em do it over correctly though. When using starter strips it is CRUCIAL that the lower edge of them be arrow straight or you will end up with wavy comb. Haven't tried it out but my suspicion is that if you used one of the hard plastic (cell imprint in the plastic not just in the wax coating) foundations cut into strips as the starters. They would seem harder to get cut but would be arrow straight and would stay thata way even if the weather got warm before the foundation got drawn. -- Jack Griffes Ottawa Lake, MI USA e-mail: Griffes at ix.netcom.com Web site: http://pw2.netcom.com/~griffes/ "Always be nice to other people, they outnumber you 5.5 billion to 1..." - Steve White! 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Depew, Munroe Falls, OH red@redpoll.mrfs.oh.us (home) It's over, and can't be helped, and that's one consolation, as they always say in Turkey, when they cut the wrong man's head off'' -- Charles Dickens, _The Pickwick Papers_ Article 8890 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!scars.demon.co.uk!Phil From: "Phil D.Long" Newsgroups: alt.non.sequitur,alt.tv.simpsons,alt.tv.simpsons.itchy-scratchy,soc.culture.mexican,soc.culture.mexican.american,soc.culture.spain,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.music.korn,alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.fan.ok-soda,alt.genius.bill-palmer Subject: Re: What bumblebee are we talking about? Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:59:54 +0100 Organization: Very Rarely Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <5ocjt2$24e@news.enter.net> <33c2d5aa.11853803@news.enter.net> <1KuXRKBDHpuzIwre@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: "Phil D.Long" NNTP-Posting-Host: scars.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: scars.demon.co.uk [158.152.93.212] [NO-IDENT] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 3.03a Lines: 26 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu alt.non.sequitur:16966 alt.tv.simpsons:176342 alt.tv.simpsons.itchy-scratchy:3859 soc.culture.mexican:82879 soc.culture.mexican.american:26252 soc.culture.spain:152462 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8890 alt.music.korn:1651 alt.fan.karl-malden.nose:70002 alt.fan.ok-soda:3769 In article , Clair writes >You do! I'm from England! You get BBC, ITV, C4 & C5 >-- >Clair You can hardly count channel 5! That' leaves us with 4...and it's summer meaning 1, 2 and ITV are sport and C4 is the same as always...old shit films and Father Ted Reruns(admittadly the show is very good, but that's all there is!) -Cheers, Pinky. Fuck the rules poo poo poo -- Phil D.Long E-mail: Phil@scars.demon.co.uk Web Url: http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/1701/index.htm Poetry : http://www.scars.demon.co.uk/pink/index.htm DS 101 : http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/5645/ SCARS : http://www.scars.demon.co.uk/scars/index.htm DiTcH : http://www.scars.demon.co.uk/ditch/ditch.htm "Forget the past the future's comin', pack up your chalk and getchabitchass runnin'" - DiTCH '97 Article 8891 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 14:23:21 -0600 From: caesar@bdg.centrin.net.id Subject: bee venom Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Message-ID: <868474894.27190@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Jul 09 19:01:35 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 202.146.253.202 () X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.0; Windows 3.1) X-Authenticated-Sender: caesar@bdg.centrin.net.id Lines: 8 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8891 Hi, I read so many discussion about bee venom use, I need some information about collecting venom from bees. -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet Article 8892 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!utnut!utcsri!bc2cep!news From: redneck Subject: Re: Crooked comb X-Nntp-Posting-Host: thvc0a.on.bell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <33C3E751.7D22@on.bell.ca> Sender: news@bc2cep.on.bell.ca (news admin) Reply-To: gcanders@on.bell.ca Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Bell Canada and Bell Sygma References: <33C31085.D382EE46@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:32:33 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) Lines: 25 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8892 drox wrote: > > I am new to beekeeping, having just started with two hives this spring. > They got a rather late start and are just beginning to draw out comb in > the supers for (hopefully) cut comb honey. I started with strips of wax > foundation about 1 1/2" wide at the tops of the frames only, and the > bees are building wavy crooked comb. I am concerned that the frames > will stick together once they are filled with honey and I try to take > them out of the supers. Is this a valid concern? Is there anything I > can do about it? Thanx. > > -Drox I'm new too but shouldn't you have the bees work on full or 3/4 frames and then cut the comb to the size you like??? This way, the bees should form rather straight comb and you should not have to worry about wavy crooked comb. At the same time the bees will be allowed to do their job with minimal interference and produce better while creating LESS work for you. It may be a good idea to forget the narrow strips. I hope I have helped in any way. happy beekeeping, Glenn Dunroven Farm Article 8893 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!demos!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.bu.edu!ppp-76-15.bu.edu!user From: iraseski@xensei.com (Ira Seskin) X-Sender: anncat@bu.edu Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Update.... Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 21:07:21 -0500 Organization: ira_seskin@bmugbos.org Lines: 81 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-76-15.bu.edu Reply-To: anncat@bu.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8893 As I type this, the bulk of my bees have left the hive and have clustered on my hedges, easily takable for whomever wants about 6 lbs of Buckfasts, and no doubt a Queen in there too! First: Thanks to everyone who responded to my last crisis when they swarmed the first time. I have archived the opinions, and I confess they varied significantly, and no doubt all were valid. As my bee teacher told me, "you cant out think bees... you just have to work with them". These bees were hell bent on leaving me! To go back a bit.... a couple of weeks ago they swarmed, I caught them, and in capturing them, killed of the Queen. Its amazing, I had forgotten she was clipped, which is why she was on my driveway at the time, and not in the swarm... she was either carried or walked about 30 feet from the hive before becoming sneaker guck. Anyway... those bees were returned to the hive, and I was hoping that the queenless bees would stay. They did, but not for long. This morning , I got the local bee inspector to come over ( they are incredibly helpful people to us urban hobbyists) and he left me a note saying he found 4 Q cells about to open in a day or so, and I should expect the bees that I returned to leave again. Well... after I read his note in my mailbox, I went to the hive, looked around and there was activity, but not as much as I thought there should be. This time they left for my hedges, where they had clustered. I have NO extra hive bodies, supers, or even plywood around, so Im not going to even think about getting them again. Advice to newbees like me: HAVE AN EXTRA HIVE BODY AND BOTTOM BOARD AROUND EVEN IF YOUR TOLD THEY WONT SWARM THE FIRST YEAR!!!! I was told swarming was unlikely the first year with package bees in a hive with no drawn comb. WRONG!!!!!!!!!! Bee inspector tells me that the good news is that the remaining bees are in the supers making comb and honey since there was no brood/eggs/larve in the hive bodies.(which I verified) . I was advised by him.. wait, dont go in again for a few weeks, dont kill any of the Q cells , let them fight it out, and look for eggs/larve in two weeks. He will come back at that time and do another " official" inspection, which was really nice of him! My question for the moment, if I follow this strategy ( which I will, the inspector knows THIS hive really well at this point), will I have big problems with a weak hive for wintering, or will the new queen produce enough brood by the fall to re strengthen the colony? Suggestions? Can one add bees in the fall, of do I hope for the best and see what happens in the spring? -I- -- /| __ / | ,-~ / Y :| // / | jj /( .^ >-"~"-v" /^ ^ Y /o o | ( ~T~ j >._-' _./ I'm / "~" | Having A Bad Y _, | HARE /| ;-"~ _ l Day / l/ ,-"~ \ \//\/ .- \ Y / Y > ) l I ! > ]\ _\ /"\ (" ~----( ~ Y. ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ->Bugs the Wonder Bunny<- ira_seskin@bmugbos.org (e- mail only... no attachments) iraseski@xensei.com (e-mail when sending attachements) http://www.xensei.com/users/iraseski "Live Free or Die" Article 8894 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!utnut!utcsri!bc2cep!news From: redneck Subject: Re: I need advise for getting rid of a bee hive X-Nntp-Posting-Host: thvc0a.on.bell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <33C3EAB5.6C6F@on.bell.ca> Sender: news@bc2cep.on.bell.ca (news admin) Reply-To: gcanders@on.bell.ca Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Bell Canada and Bell Sygma References: <33BFBC5B.2FE5@mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:47:01 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) Lines: 21 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8894 James P. Marsh wrote: > > A beehive has appeared in one of my windows (I can see the crack where > they got in) and I would like to move it because it is in a high traffic > location. > > I don't want to kill them (the minority opinion it seems) and was > wondering if anyone knows if it possible to move the hive. It is very > small right now. > > Thank you in advance. Try moving them (wearing adequate protection) during the night and in the morning the bees will hopefully re-orientate themselves to the new location. You may find a some come back to the window and you will probably have to Raid those. That's the best I can think of without destroying them. I did this when I re-established my new hives after a bear attack and it worked. Glenn Dunroven Farm Article 8895 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.bu.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!not-for-mail From: bill greenrose Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Crooked comb Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 19:58:09 -0400 Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Lines: 42 Message-ID: <33C42591.EF8C2EC1@valley.net> References: <33C31085.D382EE46@hotmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: v2-p-162.valley.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8895 drox wrote: > I am new to beekeeping, having just started with two hives this > spring. > They got a rather late start and are just beginning to draw out comb > in > the supers for (hopefully) cut comb honey. I started with strips of > wax > foundation about 1 1/2" wide at the tops of the frames only, and the > bees are building wavy crooked comb. I am concerned that the frames > will stick together once they are filled with honey and I try to take > them out of the supers. Is this a valid concern? Is there anything I > > can do about it? Thanx. > > -Drox hi drox, i remember you from bee chat. hope the swelling has subsided. as a first time beekeeper, too, i've seen the same thing. it seems to happen, when the bees start drawing comb in several places on the frame and some sections get completed [drawn to full height] before others. over time, they'll fill in the valleys and even out the comb. my deep started out that way, but everything evened out nicely. the same thing is happening to my super. i wouldn't worry about it. in fact, i take it as a sign of a very active colony with so many bees drawing comb, that they all can't work in the same area. hope this helps. bill ######################################## don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player greenros@medicalmedia.com [work] bill.greenrose@valley.net [home] http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 Article 8896 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news1.best.com!noos.hooked.net!news.scruz.net!redtail.cruzio.com!usenet From: Keith Kimes Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Plastic foundation Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 18:45:44 -0700 Organization: Cruzio Community Networking Service Lines: 43 Message-ID: <33C43EC8.777D@cruzio.com> References: <5hc6br$a72@nntp.pe.net> <9707021950292124@beenet.com> Reply-To: kkimes@cruzio.com NNTP-Posting-Host: mbay206.cruzio.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8896 Andy Nachbaur wrote: > I am the Canadian dealer for Pierco, but because I am a beekeeper and > have been using plastic for about five years now, in large amounts, we > also talk to alot of beekeepers here in Canada and abroad that use > plastic foundation or one piece units, and the general concenses is that > as long as the bees are in good shape and on a flow they draw out the > plastic very well, even in side by side tests ( done by two agriculture > field men in Alberta and British Columbia) the results do NOT show a > preference for wax over plastic. Some of the advantages of plastic over > wax are: > 1. Removal of undesired comb, ie. drone or intermediary, is possible > without damaging the frame. > 2. The queens lay in the plastic sooner than the wax (I don't know > why)but we have seen it as have others, the first frames of brood in the > spring are nine times out of ten on the plastic frames. > 3. Can remove the old wax and end up with a totally new reusable > frame, (would be quite benificial in Europe now with the wax being > tainted). > 4. More cell space per frame ( pierco one piece units) nine frames > can equal ten. > 5. Stand up much better to the extracing, moving, wax moth, mice, > beekeepers, and even bears. > 6. Also with the one piece units the frames are the exact size, so > all the equipment is the same, unlike wood frames which you know come in > a wide variety of sizes. > 7. Ease of assemblage and storability, not damaged if you are unable > to use them this season. > They don't do everything, but they are an improvement over wood, > especially for the commercial operator. I also believe that even the > hobbiest's would be surprised and happy with them in there hives. But > like excluders, they aren't for everybody. Andy, Since you are a Peirco dearler you might be able to help me. I agree that plastic is the way to go but have not made up my mind on which plastic is best. This is my first year with Pierco, I am using the medium size and am very disapointed that three frames out of 40 have had the top bar warp making the fram unusable. I do not live in a hot climate area , is this a common occurance? I have noticed that recent Pierco adds boast stronger top bars and am wondering if I have some of the older style. I purchased the frames in April and the top bars are about 1/8 inch thick. What do you think? Is this unusual or a common occurrence? Article 8897 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!newstf02.news.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pollinator@aol.com (Pollinator) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Uninvited words on my desktop Date: 10 Jul 1997 04:44:22 GMT Lines: 20 Message-ID: <19970710044401.AAA23871@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <01bc8bc2$b85c3c20$85c2c6d0@cpcustom> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8897 In article <01bc8bc2$b85c3c20$85c2c6d0@cpcustom>, "Wishin" writes: >I am receiving some obscene articles - isn't this supposed to BEE about >BEES? I have kids on this computer! > > The bee group is one of the better ones -- so far..... Some groups have only an occasional relevant post, the rest being unrelenting trash. Usenet is dying, unless a way can be found to stop these jerks. I wonder what nine men and women in their ivory tower would have decided, had they been subjected to the same barrage? Pollinator@aol.com http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA Practical Pollination Page http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html Article 8898 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!uninett.no!pravda.tisip.no!not-for-mail From: "Anthony N. Morgan" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: What happened to the beeman? Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:36:03 -0700 Organization: HiST-elektro Lines: 20 Message-ID: <33C547B2.3C03@iet.hist.no> References: <33BC730A.6838@starpoint.net> Reply-To: anthony@iet.hist.no NNTP-Posting-Host: ans77.iet.hist.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8898 Elroy Rogers wrote: > = > I have been trying to log on to his sight, but message says bad request= =2E > = > href=3Dhttp//www.kuai.se/~beeman/ The site is up and going right now - keep trying it's worth the trouble! Remember the : after http ie. http://www.kuai.se/~beeman/ Cheers Tony -- = Anthony N Morgan Institutt for elektroteknikk H=F8gskolen i S=F8r-Tr=F8ndelag N-7005 Trondheim Article 8899 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!ix.netcom.com!news From: "Susan K. Wehe" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Uninvited words on my desktop Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 08:26:52 -0500 Organization: Netcom Lines: 22 Message-ID: <33C4E31C.35D0@ix.netcom.com> References: <01bc8bc2$b85c3c20$85c2c6d0@cpcustom> <19970710044401.AAA23871@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: san-tx2-07.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Thu Jul 10 8:25:49 AM CDT 1997 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NC320 (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8899 Pollinator wrote: > > In article <01bc8bc2$b85c3c20$85c2c6d0@cpcustom>, "Wishin" > writes: > > >I am receiving some obscene articles - isn't this supposed to BEE about > >BEES? I have kids on this computer! > > > > > > The bee group is one of the better ones -- so far..... Some groups have > only an occasional relevant post, the rest being unrelenting trash. > Usenet is dying, unless a way can be found to stop these jerks. I've sent complaints on every post that has appeared here and have gotten several people's accounts suspended. I realize that they will simply switch servers but it does slow down the problem for a time and they lose whatever responses they may have garnered. Susan Article 8900 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!poleposn.demon.co.uk!paulc From: Paul Chandler Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Getting Started Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 14:18:03 +0100 Organization: Pole Position Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: poleposn.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: poleposn.demon.co.uk [158.152.119.251] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 3.03a Lines: 4 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8900 What is the best way to get started in the UK? Is there a national association and any good books that one could recommend? Thanks Paul Chandler Article 8901 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!206.63.63.70!nwnews.wa.com!nwfocus.wa.com!nntp.alaska.net!not-for-mail From: sewak@alaska.net Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Alaska Bees & Varroa Mites.. Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 20:36:11 -0800 Organization: APCS Lines: 3 Message-ID: <33C466BB.6F0D@alaska.net> Reply-To: sewak@alaska.net NNTP-Posting-Host: anc-ns3-151.alaska.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8901 Does anyone know if honey bees in Alaska are suffering the same fate with the varroa as honey bees down south? Steve Article 8902 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <33C4EFE4.528FB3B8@communicationssystems.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 10:21:25 -0400 From: "Philip M. Hempel" Organization: Communications Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping To: BeeCrofter Subject: Re: Plastic Foundation X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <5progi$slj@chronicle.concentric.net> <19970709024201.WAA08879@ladder01.news.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.72.105.199 Lines: 29 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsm.ibm.net!ibm.net!news1.ibm.net!166.72.105.199 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8902 Call Blossomland Supply 1-800-637-5262 9 to 6 EST M to Fri 9-3 Sat. Pierco frames priced at factory per case prices. BeeCrofter wrote: > In article <5progi$slj@chronicle.concentric.net>, Drmobius@cris.com > (Alex > Kooney) writes: > > >The Duragilt would occassionally bulge, tearing a line > >on the opposite side. > > I have been using an italian hand cranked extractor from Brushy > Mountain > and have been wondering why the only blowouts i have gotten were on > the > backside of the comb when extracting the fronts. > > I am on my 7th carton of pierco now and like the stuff a lot I only > hope > it proves to be as durable as wood in the long run. > > BTW anybody know who has the best price per carton for pierco frames > in a > per carton qty? Article 8903 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!winternet.com!not-for-mail From: Elroy Rogers Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: It was a dumb thing Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 06:16:12 -0700 Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc Lines: 19 Message-ID: <33C38F1C.3815@starpoint.net> References: <5pam34$6os$751@news.internetmci.com> <33B8FED7.315C@starpoint.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: sol-5.starpoint.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I; 16bit) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8903 Nick Cooke wrote: > > In article <33B8FED7.315C@starpoint.net>, Elroy Rogers > wrote: > > > The Name Teen-Porno Represents Models that are 18 Years of age or older > > > > This is a news group that should not be polluted with this garbage, I'am > > sure there are lots of under aged kids that have read this. I hope your > > a person that will respect the wishes of others and not post here again. > > > Was it a good idea to quote this in all its offensiveness complete with the > web address? I realized that I shouldn't have reposted this without taking out the trash first as soon as I seen the double post. I sorry such trash came from my computer. Send me a boot and I'll bend over. Elroy Article 8904 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!argonet.co.uk!argbd67 From: Nick Cooke Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey left in the supers Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 17:41:18 BST Organization: ArgoNet, but does not reflect its views Lines: 68 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <19970708030101.XAA22345@ladder02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: Nick Cooke NNTP-Posting-Host: aj040.du.pipex.com X-Newsreader: NewsAgent 0.84 for RISC OS Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8904 In article <19970708030101.XAA22345@ladder02.news.aol.com>, hnnutt@aol.com (HNNutt) wrote: > > Whew!!! It's sure getting warm in Waco, Texas. I'm spanking new at this > bee > thing and need a little advice. I started this year with one new hive and > a couple > of new supers. I was waiting to order package bees when a local bee man > ran an > ad selling hives with one super and bees for sixty five dollars each. Like > an idiot, > I figured I needed at least three. A couple of weeks after getting them > set in my small orchard, one hive split and swarmed. I caught them and put > them in the new hive I assembled myself. I've purchased and added supers > until my wife( boss ) > has stopped understanding. I currently have 12 supers on 4 hives. They are > all > full. I don't have an extractor yet and am waiting on a group of bee folks > who say they will help but they all get together and do their extracting > in one day. My question is: What do I need to do now? Will the honey be > okay left in hives > several weeks? AFAIK the honey will be OK unless the bees have stored a variety like rape which crystallizes in the comb. In this case you need to get it out quick or the only way of retrieving the honey will be to melt it and the wax together. The wax will solidify on the top of the bucket and then you can lift the disc off. > What will the bees do with no place left to put honey? Swarm! > Could I just buy frames and foundation and trade empty frames for full > ones? Don't see why not. > If so, how do you store frames of honey? A quantity of ingenuity required here but I fear the the most conveninet way is in super boxes but make sure that they are well sealed from bee access or the little ladies could just come along and take it back to their hive. > I've lifted the lids on the hives with some 3/8" spacers because lots of >bees were hanging out on the front of the hives. It has to be hot > with the afternoon sun on those hives. Any advice would be appreciated. > HTH Someone will, I am sure, add to this. -- Nick ZFC Cd nick.cooke@argonet.co.uk _ _______________ |___|______________|__ _/|____________________/______________ A5000, Original Serial Port, 4MB RAM, 41 MB IDE Hard Drive SCSI Card with CD-ROM and 507MB Hard drive Using 1.14 Article 8905 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!argonet.co.uk!argbd67 From: Nick Cooke Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Hives and colonies Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 19:12:25 BST Organization: ArgoNet, but does not reflect its views Lines: 27 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <33BFBC5B.2FE5@mediaone.net> <33C3EAB5.6C6F@on.bell.ca> Reply-To: Nick Cooke NNTP-Posting-Host: aj040.du.pipex.com X-Newsreader: NewsAgent 0.84 for RISC OS Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8905 I am interested in the use of the terms "hive" and "colony". Some people use the word "hive" for a breeding colony of bees wherever it is. Some people use "hive" to mean the set of boxes that holds the colony. I prefer the latter but am wondering if there is a difference of usage between US and UK. Comments? -- Nick ZFC Cd nick.cooke@argonet.co.uk _ _______________ |___|______________|__ _/|____________________/______________ A5000, Original Serial Port, 4MB RAM, 41 MB IDE Hard Drive SCSI Card with CD-ROM and 507MB Hard drive Using 1.14 Article 8906 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.74.141.7!zinger.callamer.com!not-for-mail From: Andy Nachbaur Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Hives and colonies Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:30:15 -0700 Organization: Call America Internet Services +1 (800) 563-3271 Lines: 26 Message-ID: <33C53847.4D791D0E@calwest.net> References: <33BFBC5B.2FE5@mediaone.net> <33C3EAB5.6C6F@on.bell.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: n2-103-70.thegrid.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8906 Nick Cooke wrote: > I am interested in the use of the terms "hive" and "colony". Some > people > use the word "hive" for a breeding colony of bees wherever it is. > Some > people use "hive" to mean the set of boxes that holds the colony. > > I prefer the latter but am wondering if there is a difference of usage > > between US and UK. > Hi Nick, Over the years, through the generations I have heard many terms used to identify beehives. Stands, Gums, hives, colonies, are all used in the US. Even here many of our older hamlets are identified as Colony, such as Dos Palos Colony. It does make it a little harder for the newbee to communicate but does not take long for most to figure out the translation. ttul Andy- Article 8907 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!dragon.sk.sympatico.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!not-for-mail From: "MacWax" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Beeswax prices Date: 10 Jul 1997 20:04:50 GMT Organization: The University of Manitoba Lines: 3 Message-ID: <01bc8d6c$7bb25380$f6d92dce@gqgrmhba> NNTP-Posting-Host: gl-dialin246.cpnet.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1157 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8907 I'm trying to figure out what the latest beeswax prices are doing anybody have any news? Article 8908 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!join.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!in2p3.fr!news-ge.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!surfnet.nl!news.unisource.nl!newsgate.unisource.nl!xs4all!not-for-mail From: Jan Tempelman Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Mason Bees Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 10:55:30 +0200 Organization: Home Lines: 16 Message-ID: <33C351FB.5CBB@xs4all.nl> References: <19970705024700.WAA05290@ladder02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: jtemp@xs4all.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: ztm01-24.dial.xs4all.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-XS4ALL-Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 10:54:49 CEST X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8908 JJCardinal wrote: > > Can anyone tell me if theyMason Bees are considered "common" in Michigan > and if they are, do you think they could be attracted with the new "Mason > Bee Homes"? > Louise Dawson look at http://www.xs4all.nl/~jtemp/index3.html solitary bee life -- Jan Tempelman / Ineke Drabbe | EMAIL:jtemp@xs4all.nl Sterremos 16 3069 AS Rotterdam, The Netherlands Tel/Fax (SOMETIMES) XX 31 (0)10-4569412 http://www.xs4all.nl/~jtemp/index3.html Article 8909 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: randy97 Subject: http://www.love.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping NNTP-Posting-Host: pgh.nauticom.net Message-ID: <33c530a9.1@pgh.nauticom.net> Date: 10 Jul 97 18:57:45 GMT Lines: 9 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!pgh.nauticom.net!pgh.nauticom.net Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8909 Looking to find people in your area that enjoy the same things as this newsgroup? Check out http://www.love.com It's free, it's new, and it's awesome. Rand Article 8910 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <33C56458.3B07@corinthian.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 18:38:16 -0400 From: Wallace King Reply-To: iwkremovetoreply@corinthian.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Wax problem? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.53.82.107 Lines: 8 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!zdc-e!super.zippo.com!gridnntp1!207.53.82.107 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8910 I am new to beekeeping, so pardon me if I sound ignorant, which I most woefully am. My question to all you long-time beekepers is this: I have a colony that seems very healthy. Today when I looked at them, everything looked good until the last frame. The comb on the outside of the last frame looks as though it is powdering away. A couple of bees seem to be covered in honey and are stuck to the comb, dead. Is this wax moths? Can anything be done if this is a serious problem? Thanks in advance. Article 8911 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: nilamda@aol.com (NILAMDA) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Getting Started Date: 10 Jul 1997 23:09:34 GMT Lines: 19 Message-ID: <19970710230901.TAA15911@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: Organization: AOL, http://www.aol.co.uk X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8911 In article , Paul Chandler writes: >What is the best way to get started in the UK? Is there a national >association and any good books that one could recommend? >Thanks >Paul Chandler You haven't said where you live. Most areas have Branches of the BBKA. The General Secretary of the British Beekeeper's Association is Mr Adrian Waring, who can be contacted through the BBKA Headquarters, National Agricultural Centre, Stoneleigh, Kenilworth,Warwickshire, CV8 2LZ Tel 01203 690682 Suggest you read Guide to Bees and Honey by Ted Hooper. Try your local Public Library, which is likely to have a number of books on bees. Tony Malin RUGBY UK Article 8912 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!newsfeed.cv.nrao.edu!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-in.iadfw.net!news-f.iadfw.net!usenet From: busykngt@airmail.net (BusyKnight) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Marking Queens (Was: Use of correcting fliud) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 23:04:14 GMT Organization: INTERNET AMERICA Lines: 23 Message-ID: X-Orig-Message-ID: <5plr7q$vuh@library.airnews.net> References: <01bc726f$9adad420$358cb8cd@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> <19970607141600.KAA11193@ladder02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: busykngt@mail.airmail.net NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Host: dal06-24.ppp.iadfw.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8912 I've always used just Testor's model paint. Some say it doesn't dry fast enough but it's never caused me any problems. Perhaps it's the technique I use. I shake up the little bottle of Testor's model paint and of course this gets it on the inside, bottom of the lid. I use a finishing nail (ground off flat - this makes the perfect sized dot) and dab it in the paint thats on the inside of the bottle cap. This keeps too much paint from getting on the nail. After I mark the queen, I place 'her highness' in a little jar to transport her back to the hive. The Testor's has never failed to dry in the time it takes me to walk her back to the hive (about 50 yards). BusyKnight Dallas Article 8913 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!vtaix.cc.vt.edu!adamf From: adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Getting Started Date: 11 Jul 1997 00:03:20 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5q3t88$cne$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <19970710230901.TAA15911@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vtaix.cc.vt.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8913 In article <19970710230901.TAA15911@ladder02.news.aol.com>, NILAMDA wrote: > >Suggest you read Guide to Bees and Honey by Ted Hooper. Try your local >Public Library, which is likely to have a number of books on bees. > Tony is right, this is a fine book. :) Adam -- _________________ Adam Finkelstein adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu http://sunsite.unc.edu/bees/adamf Article 8914 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.bu.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!not-for-mail From: bill greenrose Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Crooked comb Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 21:31:31 -0400 Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Lines: 71 Message-ID: <33C58CF2.4675C0B0@valley.net> References: <33C31085.D382EE46@hotmail.com> <01bc8c69$3c3b3860$4b8cb8cd@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: v2-p-102.valley.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8914 Jack Griffes wrote: > drox wrote in article > <33C31085.D382EE46@hotmail.com>... > > I am new to beekeeping, having just started with two hives > this spring. > > They got a rather late start and are just beginning to draw > out comb in > > the supers for (hopefully) cut comb honey. I started with > strips of wax > > foundation about 1 1/2" wide at the tops of the frames only, > and the > > bees are building wavy crooked comb. I am concerned that the > frames > > will stick together once they are filled with honey and I try > to take > > them out of the supers. Is this a valid concern? > > Yep ya gotta problem. Combs in removable frame hives need to be > arrow straight so that you can put them where you want in any > hive body. If they are wavy you can only place them in the set > of wavy comb and in exactly the same position as they were drawn > in - rendering many manipulations impossible. > > > Is there anything I > > can do about it? Thanx. > > Hmm - not that I know of at this point as far as actually > straightening fully drawn wavy combs but perhaps someone else > knows a way - I surely don't know everything. Of course you can > make 'em do it over correctly though. > > When using starter strips it is CRUCIAL that the lower edge of > them be arrow straight or you will end up with wavy comb. > Haven't tried it out but my suspicion is that if you used one of > the hard plastic (cell imprint in the plastic not just in the > wax coating) foundations cut into strips as the starters. They > would seem harder to get cut but would be arrow straight and > would stay thata way even if the weather got warm before the > foundation got drawn. > > -- > Jack Griffes > Ottawa Lake, MI > USA > e-mail: Griffes at ix.netcom.com > Web site: http://pw2.netcom.com/~griffes/ > > "Always be nice to other people, > they outnumber you 5.5 billion to 1..." > - Steve White! " greetings, i apologize, if i gave bad advice. i thought that the frames were straight, but that the bees were drawing comb unevenly, so the surface of the comb had a 'wavy' appearance [as in my case]. sorry, guess newbies [at least this one] should read, rather than give advice. bill ######################################## don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player greenros@medicalmedia.com [work] bill.greenrose@valley.net [home] http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 Article 8915 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-in.iadfw.net!news-f.iadfw.net!usenet From: busykngt@airmail.net (BusyKnight) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: saved again.. Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:37:56 GMT Organization: INTERNET AMERICA Lines: 9 Message-ID: X-Orig-Message-ID: <5q40u6$r8f@library.airnews.net> References: Reply-To: busykngt@mail.airmail.net NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Thu Jul 10 20:06:14 1997 NNTP-Posting-Host: dal34-04.ppp.iadfw.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8915 iraseski@xensei.com (Ira Seskin) wrote: >My wife gave me a choice... her ... or the bees.... Hummm........my (ex)wife said the same thing ! BusyKnight Dallas Article 8916 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!News1.Ottawa.iSTAR.net!News1.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!news1.istar.ca!not-for-mail From: billfern@istar.ca (bill fernihough) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: I need advise for getting rid of a bee hive Date: 11 Jul 1997 03:18:04 GMT Organization: Your Organization Lines: 3 Message-ID: <5q48lc$a2t$1@news.istar.ca> References: <33BFBC5B.2FE5@mediaone.net> <33C3EAB5.6C6F@on.bell.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1-13.vcr.istar.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (x86 32bit) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8916 If you can move them, make it over two miles, they won't come back almost for sure. Article 8917 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!News1.Ottawa.iSTAR.net!News4.Ottawa.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!news1.istar.ca!not-for-mail From: billfern@istar.ca (bill fernihough) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Wax problem? Date: 11 Jul 1997 03:24:17 GMT Organization: Your Organization Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5q4911$a2t$2@news.istar.ca> References: <33C56458.3B07@corinthian.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1-13.vcr.istar.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (x86 32bit) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8917 This sounds like an interesting problem. Wax moths don't sound likely. Wax moths usually leave some webby stuff around, and if you hold a frame up to the sun or good light, you will see little tunnels in the comb where the moth larvae has gone and also some excrement from the larvae, very easy to diagnos! I wonder if you have a mouse perhaps, or perhaps yellow jacket wasps in there? Keep you entrance small unless a honey flow is on. Mice are quite common, but usually a winter problem. And they will really mess up a hive. But it doesn't sound like a mouse either, so suggest you do some thorough inspections. Article 8918 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.74.141.7!zinger.callamer.com!not-for-mail From: Andy Nachbaur Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: New Search Engine Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 16:33:38 -0700 Organization: Call America Internet Services +1 (800) 563-3271 Lines: 1207 Message-ID: <33C57152.4AC2F13D@calwest.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: n4-102-229.thegrid.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------EE24D5D0BDC0653D89F6E825" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8918 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EE24D5D0BDC0653D89F6E825 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit About burned out looking for new and old bee sites on the net? 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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:28:09 GMT Organization: Dartmouth College Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: kac.dartmouth.edu X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8919 >iraseski@xensei.com (Ira Seskin) wrote: >>My wife gave me a choice... her ... or the bees.... >Hummm........my (ex)wife said the same thing ! >BusyKnight >Dallas So did mine. Were either of you married to a woman named Pam. Ahhh probably not, just checking. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The Cutting Farm Warlock West Springfield, NH Wolf #3 Lurking in the shadows <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Article 8920 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!infeed2.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!masternews.telia.net!newsfeed3.telia.com!nntp.telivo.net!Filon.sgic.fi!news.funet.fi!nntp.inet.fi!news.sci.fi!usenet From: "Durk Ellison" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: saved again.. Date: 11 Jul 1997 12:05:47 GMT Organization: Scifi Communications International, http://www.sci.fi/, helpdesk@sci.fi, +358 3 2899111 Lines: 52 Message-ID: <01bc8df2$852619c0$c4044ac3@beenet.sci.fi> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: cdxcix.hdyn.sci.fi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8920 Another good one is " If you really love me you'll ........." -- Regards from: Durk Ellison Vantaa, Finland BeeNet : 240:2358/100 e-mail : Durk.Ellison@beenet.pp.sci.fi e-mail : Durk.Ellison@knowledgebase.fi (e-mail only) Packet : oh2zas @ oh2rbt.#hki.fin.eu > time they swarm next spring... IM NOT GETTING ANOTHER HIVE!!!!! My wife > gave me a choice... her ... or the bees.... > > hummmmmmm. Im thinking... Im thinking..... > > > -I- > > -- > > /| __ > / | ,-~ / > Y :| // / > | jj /( .^ > >-"~"-v" > /^ ^ Y > /o o | > ( ~T~ j > >._-' _./ I'm > / "~" | Having A Bad > Y _, | HARE > /| ;-"~ _ l Day > / l/ ,-"~ \ > \//\/ .- \ > Y / Y > ) > l I ! > > ]\ _\ /"\ > (" ~----( ~ Y. ) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ->Bugs the Wonder Bunny<- > > ira_seskin@bmugbos.org (e- mail only... no attachments) > iraseski@xensei.com (e-mail when sending attachements) > http://www.xensei.com/users/iraseski > > > "Live Free or Die" > Article 8921 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!emphasys.demon.co.uk!alyn From: "Alyn W. Ashworth" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: New Search Engine Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:09:01 +0100 Organization: Emphasys Computer Consultants Ltd. Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <33C57152.4AC2F13D@calwest.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: emphasys.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: emphasys.demon.co.uk [158.152.242.226] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 3.03a Lines: 21 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8921 In article <33C57152.4AC2F13D@calwest.net>, Andy Nachbaur writes >About burned out looking for new and old bee sites on the net? > >Try this one you may like it.: > >http://www.inference.com/infind/index.html > >++ a pic of a feral hive..(with lots of room for honey storage) > >[ A MIME image / gif part was included here. ] > And I for one wish it wasn't, but rather it was on a web site somewhere so that we could get it if we wanted it, but didn't have to put up with long download times if we didn't. I thought that this was a news-group, not a glossy-coffee-table-magazine-group! -- Alyn W. Ashworth Lancashire & North-West Bee-Keepers' Association. UK. (but I don't speak on their bee-half) http://www.demon.co.uk/emphasys Article 8922 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu!slider.bme.ri.ccf.org!kira.cc.uakron.edu!odin.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!news.apk.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.255.96.40!intex.net!not-for-mail From: Luis Salcedo Newsgroups: sci.agriculture,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,sci.agriculture.fruit,sci.agriculture.poultry,sci.agriculture.ratities Subject: Call for Volunteers: Fort Worth International Science Fair Grand Awards Judges Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:54:41 -0500 Organization: Carson-Salcedo-McWilliams, Inc. Lines: 153 Message-ID: <33C68F81.59088E93@csm-net.com> Reply-To: lsalcedo@csm-net.com NNTP-Posting-Host: pppb087.nstar.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------C71FC7C309FBD26A2A89BDDC" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture:20695 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8922 sci.agriculture.fruit:944 sci.agriculture.poultry:3027 --------------C71FC7C309FBD26A2A89BDDC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Intel International Science and Engineering Fair takes place annually each May in a different city. The 49th ISEF will take place in Fort Worth at the Tarrant County Convention Center during May 10-16, 1998. More than 460 ISEF affiliated fairs are eligible to sent two Finalists and one Team Project to the ISEF. Over 1000 student projects in 15 different categories from throughout the U.S. and the world are expected to participate in the Fort Worth ISEF. The students will be competing for thousands of dollars in cash prizes, trips and scholarships. The Grand Awards Judges will evaluate projects within the 15 categories for the 300 ISEF Grand Awards (First, Second, Third and Fourth Place). The number of awards presented in a particular category depends on the number of entries in that category. Project awards, including teams, are $3000 for First Place, $1500 for Second Place, $1000 for Third Place and $500 for Fourth Place. Two Finalists at the ISEF will be chosen to attend the Nobel Prize Ceremonies and participate in the Stockholm International Youth Science Seminar. Two additional students will be chosen to represent the United States as guest observers at the European Union Contest for Young Scientists. Grand Awards Judges are all volunteers and represent the best of the Host City's Science and Engineering community. The Grand Awards Judges will only evaluate projects for the Intel Grand Awards. A separate group of judges will select winners for the Special Awards Category. The Special Awards are those awarded by professional organizations, corporations and government agencies. Grand Awards Judges cannot participate in the Special Awards judging. Fort Worth expects to recruit over 800 volunteer Grand Awards Judges from the technical community of North Texas. The Fort Worth area is a world leader in cutting-edge technical industries, and will provide a valuable educational experience for the participating students. Formal recruitment of judges will begin July 1, 1997. It will greatly facilitate that process if we have a bank of names of individuals who are seriously interested in becoming a judge. The judges are divided into 15 categories, which are listed in the Fort Worth ISEF Web Site at: http://www.weblife.net/isef/ Science Service, Inc. of Washington is the agency that conducts these international events, and they set the criteria for becoming a judge, which read as follows: "All judges should have a Ph.D., M.D., or equivalent OR a minimum of six years related professional experience. Judges may include university faculty, industrial scientists and engineers, representatives of private and federal research centers and agencies, and medical researchers. Affiliated science fair directors, ISEF Official Party members, or elementary or secondary school teachers are not eligible to judge." Judges are expected to be available from Tuesday afternoon, May 12, 1998 through all day Wednesday, May 13, 1998 to complete their judging assignments. If you wish to be considered as a judge, please use the on-line form in the FW ISEF web site (http://www.csm-net.com/fwisef/judge-app.html) or send your resume to Luis Salcedo who will then contact you to confirm your acceptance. We will keep volunteers informed with periodic notices. Thanks for your help. Judging Committee Chair Luis Salcedo Carson-Salcedo-McWilliams, Inc. 6800 Manhattan, Suite 400 Fort Worth, Texas 76120 817-492-9868 817-492-9855 (fax) E-mail: lsalcedo@csm-net.com FW ISEF Home Page : http://www.weblife.net/isef/ --------------C71FC7C309FBD26A2A89BDDC Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Intel International Science and Engineering Fair takes place annually each May in a different city. The 49th ISEF will take place in Fort Worth at the Tarrant County Convention Center during May 10-16, 1998.  More than 460 ISEF affiliated fairs are eligible to sent two Finalists and one Team Project to the ISEF.  Over 1000 student projects in 15 different categories from throughout the U.S. and the world are expected to participate in the Fort Worth ISEF.  The students will be competing for thousands of dollars in cash prizes, trips and scholarships.

The Grand Awards Judges will evaluate projects within the 15 categories for the 300 ISEF Grand Awards (First, Second, Third and Fourth Place).   The number of awards presented in a particular category depends on the number of entries in that category.  Project awards, including teams, are $3000 for First Place, $1500 for Second Place, $1000 for Third Place and $500 for Fourth Place.  Two Finalists at the ISEF will be chosen to attend the Nobel Prize Ceremonies and participate in the Stockholm International Youth Science Seminar. Two additional students will be chosen to represent the United States as guest observers at the European Union Contest for Young Scientists.

Grand Awards Judges are all volunteers and represent the best of the Host City's Science and Engineering community.  The Grand Awards Judges will only evaluate projects for the Intel Grand Awards.  A separate group of judges will select winners for the Special Awards Category.  The Special Awards are those awarded by professional organizations, corporations and government agencies.  Grand Awards Judges cannot participate in the Special Awards judging.

Fort Worth expects to recruit over 800 volunteer Grand Awards Judges from the technical community of North Texas.  The Fort Worth area is a world leader in cutting-edge technical industries, and will provide a valuable educational experience for the participating students.  Formal recruitment of judges will  begin July 1, 1997.   It will greatly facilitate that process if we have a bank of names of  individuals who are seriously interested in becoming a judge. The judges are divided into 15 categories, which are listed in the Fort Worth ISEF Web Site at:

                        http://www.weblife.net/isef/

 Science Service, Inc. of Washington is the agency that conducts these international events, and they set the criteria
 for becoming a judge, which read as follows:

           "All judges should have a Ph.D., M.D., or equivalent OR a minimum of six years related professional experience. Judges may include university faculty, industrial scientists  and engineers, representatives of private and federal research centers and agencies, and medical researchers. Affiliated science fair  directors, ISEF Official Party members, or elementary or secondary school teachers are not eligible to judge."

Judges are expected to be available from Tuesday afternoon, May 12, 1998  through all day Wednesday, May 13, 1998
to complete their judging assignments.  If  you wish to be considered as a judge, please use the on-line form in the FW ISEF web site (http://www.csm-net.com/fwisef/judge-app.html) or send your resume to Luis Salcedo who will then contact you to confirm your acceptance.  We will keep volunteers informed with periodic notices.   Thanks for your help.

   Judging Committee Chair
   Luis Salcedo
   Carson-Salcedo-McWilliams, Inc.
   6800 Manhattan, Suite 400
   Fort Worth, Texas 76120
   817-492-9868    817-492-9855 (fax)
   E-mail: lsalcedo@csm-net.com
   FW ISEF Home Page : http://www.weblife.net/isef/ --------------C71FC7C309FBD26A2A89BDDC-- Article 8923 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!interpath!news.interpath.net!news-fw-22.sprintlink.net!news-fw-12.sprintlink.net!news-west.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!europa.clark.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!emphasys.demon.co.uk!alyn From: "Alyn W. Ashworth" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Crooked comb Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:49:40 +0100 Organization: Emphasys Computer Consultants Ltd. Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <33C31085.D382EE46@hotmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: emphasys.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: emphasys.demon.co.uk [158.152.242.226] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 3.03a Lines: 36 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8923 In article <33C31085.D382EE46@hotmail.com>, drox writes >I am new to beekeeping, having just started with two hives this spring. >They got a rather late start and are just beginning to draw out comb in >the supers for (hopefully) cut comb honey. I started with strips of wax >foundation about 1 1/2" wide at the tops of the frames only, and the >bees are building wavy crooked comb. Some thoughts.... As you are a newbie (and I'm not an oldie) I recommend that you make things as easy for yourself as possible, by using full sheets of foundation. I know that the cost savings make strips look attractive, but it's hard to quantify the hassle factor. If you really do want to save some cash, try putting in alternative sheets and strips, and keep the spacing very tight to minimize the wave effect. What I do is to use both narrow and wide plastic spacers (plastic metal- ends!!) and varable comb spacing. When I start with foundation I use narrow spacing, then after one extraction, when the comb is well built, I use alternate wide and narrow ends to increase the spacing, and finally, once the combe is really well built out, I use wide ends all through. This way I avoid (mostly) the wavy comb syndrome, and I get more honey from fewer frames, less handling, less cost and easier uncapping. I consider the initial use of complete foundation sheets as an investment, in that it gives me nice regular frames that are easy to uncap and handle. Normally the bees co-operate!! Good beekeeping. -- Alyn W. Ashworth Lancashire & North-West Bee-Keepers' Association. UK. (but I don't speak on their bee-half) http://www.demon.co.uk/emphasys Article 8924 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.he.net!hermes.louisville.edu!not-for-mail From: caw@SPAM@bcc.louisville.edu Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: How to start??? Date: 11 Jul 1997 21:21:50 GMT Organization: University of Louisville Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5q685e$qej$1@hermes.louisville.edu> Reply-To: caw@SPAM@bcc.louisville.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: flowman.bcc.louisville.edu X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 2.0 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8924 Way back I lived near a man who kept bees, and I thought it was really interesting. Well now that I'm grown up(subject to debate according to some) I'm considering getting a hive of my own. I have a garden and most all of my neighbors have gardens, flowers clover in the yards, etc. Is this doable? who should I contact? I don't have any idea if I can even legally have a hive in my yard. I live in Louisville, Kentucky. thanks all, and have a good weekend. Chris Article 8925 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.telstra.net!loomi.telstra.net!not-for-mail From: malex Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: I need to find Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:03:32 +1000 Organization: malex Lines: 27 Message-ID: <33C5F6E4.75375ABF@comcen.com.au> Reply-To: malex@comcen.com.au NNTP-Posting-Host: angel.comcen.com.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Cache-Post-Path: angel.comcen.com.au!unknown@modem034.ts52.comcen.com.au Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8925 Fax Transmission No. of pages incl. this one: 1 To: Fax number: cc: FILES From: Nicolas Alexopulos Date: If you do not receive all page, please contact: MALEX 6 BOOMERANG AVE. EARLWOOD 2206 SYDNEY NSW AUSTRALIA fax/phone ; 61 2 97895694 Subject: Quotation E-mail: malex@comcen.com.au We are planing to restart our family business overseas (South of CHILE) with our own 500 hives and give service to others 2500, therefore we are interesting in machines that we believe are important for our plans of operation; two of them are: 1.- uncapping machine (placed in a uncapping van) 2.- foundation comb machine (to service own operation and eventually sell to others) Please fell free to enclose any other product that you consider a great value, we will be very grateful if you can help us in our searching YOURS SICERELY pd: la informacion puede ser en castellano Nicolas Alexopulos Article 8926 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.bu.edu!ppp-93-5.bu.edu!user From: iraseski@xensei.com (Ira Seskin) X-Sender: anncat@bu.edu Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: saved again.. Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 20:32:52 -0500 Organization: ira_seskin@bmugbos.org Lines: 47 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-93-5.bu.edu Reply-To: anncat@bu.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8926 After my "Update" message yesterday, I got a call from the bee inspector, who , when hearing of the swarm in my hedges said he would lend me a "nuc" if he could catch them. Whewn I got home from work there was a happy hive where the hedge WAS. Along with that was a note in my mailbox saying that these bees looked too good to waste, and if I didnt want them, he would take them.. if I did want them, I should just call him when the nuc was empty. Mailorder three medium supers, 20 PIERCO waxed frames, bottom board, inside cover and outside cover. BetterBee catalog. I am calling this hive OMEGA.. yes I had dubbed the first one ALPHA. Next time they swarm next spring... IM NOT GETTING ANOTHER HIVE!!!!! My wife gave me a choice... her ... or the bees.... hummmmmmm. Im thinking... Im thinking..... -I- -- /| __ / | ,-~ / Y :| // / | jj /( .^ >-"~"-v" /^ ^ Y /o o | ( ~T~ j >._-' _./ I'm / "~" | Having A Bad Y _, | HARE /| ;-"~ _ l Day / l/ ,-"~ \ \//\/ .- \ Y / Y > ) l I ! > ]\ _\ /"\ (" ~----( ~ Y. ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ->Bugs the Wonder Bunny<- ira_seskin@bmugbos.org (e- mail only... no attachments) iraseski@xensei.com (e-mail when sending attachements) http://www.xensei.com/users/iraseski "Live Free or Die" Article 8927 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!hose.news.pipex.net!pipex!burn.news.pipex.net!pipex!weld.news.pipex.net!pipex!uk-po.com!usenet From: Chris Brooks Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Hives and colonies Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:59:58 +0100 Organization: Post Office - IT SERVICES Lines: 22 Message-ID: <33C62E4E.11B2@it.postoffice.co.uk> References: <33BFBC5B.2FE5@mediaone.net> <33C3EAB5.6C6F@on.bell.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.87.1.177 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (WinNT; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8927 Nick Cooke wrote: > > I am interested in the use of the terms "hive" and "colony". Some people > use the word "hive" for a breeding colony of bees wherever it is. Some > people use "hive" to mean the set of boxes that holds the colony. > > I prefer the latter but am wondering if there is a difference of usage > between US and UK. > > Comments? > > -- > NickHi Nick I have a number of Hives(6) but only 3 Colonies. No I don't want that swarm! :-) ChrisB -- My views Not those of my employer Article 8928 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.tds.net!news From: "Don" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Queen rearing Date: 12 Jul 1997 01:44:16 GMT Organization: TDS Telecom - Madison, WI Lines: 4 Message-ID: <01bc8e7d$b983a580$751401cf@mypc.tdsnet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kntnusr1-a53.conc.tds.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8928 Is anyone out there into queen rearing if so e-mail me at dmelton@conc.tdsnet.com thanks Don Article 8929 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.magicnet.net!not-for-mail From: Mike Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Malathion spraying for Medfly in FL Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 22:09:07 -0700 Organization: MagicNet, Inc. Lines: 6 Message-ID: <33C71172.4EE84C94@magicnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm53-22.magicnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win16; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8929 Any beekeepers in Cent.FL have any ideas to protect their bees/hives or experience with the malathion spraying being done to kill the Mediterranean fruit fly? Eileen Article 8930 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.bu.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!not-for-mail From: bill greenrose Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: New Search Engine Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 23:19:07 -0400 Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Lines: 31 Message-ID: <33C6F7AB.95E470B6@valley.net> References: <33C57152.4AC2F13D@calwest.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: v2-p-114.valley.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8930 Andy Nachbaur wrote: > About burned out looking for new and old bee sites on the net? > > Try this one you may like it.: > > http://www.inference.com/infind/index.html > > ++ a pic of a feral hive..(with lots of room for honey storage) > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > [Image] thanks for the link to the search engine. i like the way it sorts and groups webpages. LOTS of hits on 'beekeeping.' another bookmark has been added. cool pic, too. as a newbie, i enjoy seeing, as well as reading, different aspects of bees and beekeeping. [although i hope i never see something like that on my house!] bill ######################################## don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player greenros@medicalmedia.com [work] bill.greenrose@valley.net [home] http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 Article 8931 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.bu.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!not-for-mail From: bill greenrose Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: saved again.. Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 23:25:45 -0400 Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Lines: 181 Message-ID: <33C6F938.C9B2820B@valley.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: v2-p-114.valley.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------737031998A570F20F274FC0C" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8931 --------------737031998A570F20F274FC0C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ira Seskin wrote: > After my "Update" message yesterday, I got a call from the bee > inspector, > who , when hearing of the swarm in my hedges said he would lend me a > "nuc" > if he could catch them. Whewn I got home from work there was a happy > hive > where the hedge WAS. Along with that was a note in my mailbox saying > that > these bees looked too good to waste, and if I didnt want them, he > would > take them.. if I did want them, I should just call him when the nuc > was > empty. Mailorder three medium supers, 20 PIERCO waxed frames, bottom > board, inside cover and outside cover. BetterBee catalog. > > I am calling this hive OMEGA.. yes I had dubbed the first one ALPHA. > Next > time they swarm next spring... IM NOT GETTING ANOTHER HIVE!!!!! My > wife > gave me a choice... her ... or the bees.... > > hummmmmmm. Im thinking... Im thinking..... > > -I- > > -- > > /| __ > / | ,-~ / > Y :| // / > | jj /( .^ > >-"~"-v" > /^ ^ Y > /o o | > ( ~T~ j > >._-' _./ I'm > / "~" | Having A Bad > Y _, | HARE > /| ;-"~ _ l Day > / l/ ,-"~ \ > \//\/ .- \ > Y / Y > ) > l I ! > > ]\ _\ /"\ > (" ~----( ~ Y. ) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ->Bugs the Wonder Bunny<- > > ira_seskin@bmugbos.org (e- mail only... no attachments) > iraseski@xensei.com (e-mail when sending attachements) > http://www.xensei.com/users/iraseski > > "Live Free or Die" so THAT'S why i'm still single, so i don't have to make those kinds of decisions. bill p.s. you from new hamsphire? your motto is on my license plate. ######################################## don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player greenros@medicalmedia.com [work] bill.greenrose@valley.net [home] http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 --------------737031998A570F20F274FC0C Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ira Seskin wrote:

After my "Update" message yesterday, I got a call from the bee inspector,
who , when hearing of the swarm in my hedges said he would lend me a "nuc"
if he could catch them. Whewn I got home from work there was a happy hive
where the hedge WAS.  Along with that was a note in my mailbox saying that
these bees looked too good to waste, and if I didnt want them, he would
take them.. if I did want them, I should just call him when the nuc was
empty.  Mailorder three medium supers, 20 PIERCO waxed frames, bottom
board, inside cover and outside cover. BetterBee catalog.

I am calling this hive OMEGA.. yes I had dubbed the first one ALPHA. Next
time they swarm next spring... IM NOT GETTING ANOTHER HIVE!!!!!  My wife
gave me a choice... her ... or the bees....

hummmmmmm. Im thinking... Im thinking.....

-I-

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                           / |   ,-~ /
                          Y :|  //  /
                          | jj /( .^
                         >-"~"-v"
                         /^   ^    Y
                        /o  o    |
                      ( ~T~     j
                        >._-' _./                  I'm
                       /   "~"  |              Having A Bad
                      Y     _,  |                  HARE
                     /| ;-"~ _  l                  Day
                    / l/ ,-"~    \
                     \//\/      .- \
                      Y        /    Y    > )
                      l       I     !     >
                      ]\      _\    /"\
                    (" ~----( ~   Y.  )
           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
              ->Bugs the Wonder Bunny<-

      ira_seskin@bmugbos.org   (e- mail only...  no attachments)
       iraseski@xensei.com    (e-mail when sending attachements)
                  http://www.xensei.com/users/iraseski

                      "Live Free or Die"

 so THAT'S why i'm still single, so i don't have to make those kinds of decisions.

bill

p.s. you from new hamsphire?  your motto is on my license plate.
 
########################################

don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player

greenros@medicalmedia.com [work]
bill.greenrose@valley.net [home]
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 --------------737031998A570F20F274FC0C-- Article 8932 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!argonet.co.uk!argbd67 From: Nick Cooke Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Getting Started Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:49:51 BST Organization: ArgoNet, but does not reflect its views Lines: 10 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <19970710230901.TAA15911@ladder02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: Nick Cooke NNTP-Posting-Host: ak202.du.pipex.com X-Newsreader: NewsAgent 0.84 for RISC OS Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8932 In article <19970710230901.TAA15911@ladder02.news.aol.com>, nilamda@aol.com (NILAMDA) wrote: > Suggest you read Guide to Bees and Honey by Ted Hooper. Try your local > Public Library, which is likely to have a number of books on bees. > It's the only book I ever bought apart from Snelgrove. They're both excellent. Article 8933 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!easynet-fr!easynet-buggy!max2-paris-101.easynet.fr!user From: evolution@webdepart.com (Antoine Huchet) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture,alt.sustainable.agriculture,alt.agriculture.fruit,sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Export Agriculture France Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 15:13:12 -0300 Organization: Evolution Lines: 12 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: max2-paris-101.easynet.fr Keywords: Export Agriculture France Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture:20704 alt.sustainable.agriculture:19642 alt.agriculture.fruit:5943 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8933 Hire my services. I help small and medium foreign agricultural companies to find new business contacts with French companies. I can work for you as a temporary and independent export manager based in France. Reasonable rates. -- Antoine HUCHET, Evolution, Paris E. Mail : evolution@webdepart.com Web Page : http://www.webdepart.com/evolution Article 8934 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.gte.net!news-in.iadfw.net!news-f.iadfw.net!usenet From: busykngt@airmail.net (BusyKnight) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queen rearing Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 14:26:34 GMT Organization: INTERNET AMERICA Lines: 9 Message-ID: X-Orig-Message-ID: <5q84oj$4rb@library.airnews.net> References: <01bc8e7d$b983a580$751401cf@mypc.tdsnet.com> Reply-To: busykngt@mail.airmail.net NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Sat Jul 12 09:36:04 1997 NNTP-Posting-Host: dal14-21.ppp.iadfw.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8934 "Don" wrote: >Is anyone out there into queen rearing Don, I've played around with it a few times; with varing degrees of success. What did you have in mind? I'd like to get a little more serious about it but I just really don't have the time... Article 8935 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!198.207.169.10!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wildbee!andy.nachbaur From: andy.nachbaur@beenet.com (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Need Honey Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 13:49:00 GMT Message-ID: <9707120739372198@beenet.com> Organization: WILD BEE'S BBS (209) 826-8107 LOS BANOS, CA Distribution: world References: <01bc5954$3c942d00$48567ec2@default> Lines: 45 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8935 This message was from Ross M (by way of Andy Nachbaur (by way of Andy Nachbaur ) To: sysop@beenet.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 21:57:34 -0700 Subject: Re: Need Honey Greetings: This may or may not be the place to ask, if not please advise, if so please relpy. This is my first year that I have had a hive. And I bought a couple of Hundred Honey bears to fill. Thinking that I would be "giving it away" to friends and co-workers. I happened to meet someone on the Golf Course and we got talking about honey. He was a buyer with a chain of stores in Canada. He told me he may be able to provide some shelf space for a North Americian product. (he has been buying from a broker that is based in Hong Kong, product made in China) Today I got a trial order from him to "test the market" he ordered 2500 - 8oz bears thats 1250 pounds of honey. (I hope to produce 100 to 200 pounds myself) if this test runs ok I would been looking at 2500 to 5000 units every month. The purchase order states that the Honey be "Pfund 60 or below" and a moisture content of 18.6 % or less. If you have Honey to sell (wholesale) I would be pleased to look at offers My Fax number is 613-821-0157 Thanks, Ross Murray RR # 3, Metcalfe, ON. K0A 2P0 --- þ QMPro 1.53 þ http://194.112.46.22/public/default.htm (Amigabee BBS) Article 8936 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!198.207.169.10!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wildbee!andy.nachbaur From: andy.nachbaur@beenet.com (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Malathion spraying for Medfly in FL Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 14:13:00 GMT Message-ID: <9707120739372199@beenet.com> Organization: WILD BEE'S BBS (209) 826-8107 LOS BANOS, CA Distribution: world References: <33C71172.4EE84C94@magicnet.net> Lines: 56 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8936 M>From: Mike >Subject: Malathion spraying for Medfly in FL M>Any beekeepers in Cent.FL have any ideas to protect their bees/hives or >experience with the malathion spraying being done to kill the >Mediterranean fruit fly? If it is the same "malathion" bait program that was used in California you should not have any problems with your bees at all. Can't say about your own health, and for sure you are a better at determining the effects on your bees locally then I. A good friend of donated a 100 hives of bees for use by the University of California to monitor any bee damage in the Med Fly program as done in the norther California area, San Jose and 50 miles around it. I went with him to help move them out after the testing was done. They were so heavy with honey he had to make two trips to move the hundred hives of bees which is something he had never did before running 12,000 hives commercially. Part of the test was also to give these bees AFB by putting squares of diseased combs to hives placed in an old USDA Field Station which was in an area that was no longer rural in San Jose. The honey flow was so good during the test and med fly spraying all the bees did was make honey and swarm and none of them came down with AFB... The research technician complained about all the honey as he had to lift the super off every time he wanted to check the bees to see what was going on with the AFB comb he gave them. He had box after box of burr comb he had to remove from the lids and between the supers. It was a man killer job for sure. They also had a problem with the swarms as if they left the research station, and they did, they ended up in a new school yard to the north, a new shopping center to east, or in the yards of new homes to the south or west. We were happy they were doing all the work as it would be a 400 mile round trip if my friend had to come and catch the swarms. It was interesting to note that all these bees on a dozen different sites, state equipment yards, federal research labs, environmental schools, all places that you and I could never get permission to put bees, AND not one complaint. Of course none of the bees were in public view, just on public property that was closed to the public. As far as the malathion if it is used the same way it was here you should not have a problem. But since conditions are far from the same you will have to be the judge on your own bees. ttul, the OLd Drone (c) Permission is granted to freely copy this document in any form, or to print for any use. (w)Opinions are not necessarily facts. Use at own risk. --- þ QMPro 1.53 þ Let the honey flow!!!!! Article 8937 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!newstf02.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: nilamda@aol.com (NILAMDA) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Malathion spraying for Medfly in FL Date: 12 Jul 1997 20:40:21 GMT Lines: 13 Message-ID: <19970712204001.QAA02471@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <33C71172.4EE84C94@magicnet.net> Organization: AOL, http://www.aol.co.uk X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8937 In article <33C71172.4EE84C94@magicnet.net>, Mike writes: >Any beekeepers in Cent.FL have any ideas to protect their bees/hives or >experience with the malathion spraying being done to kill the >Mediterranean fruit fly? > >Eileen In the UK some measure of control over indiscriminate spraying was achieved by suing the Spraying Contractors. Tony Malin RUGBY UK Article 8938 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.his.com!news3.his.com!usenet From: John Alexander Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: BeeChat Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 20:27:32 -0400 Organization: Heller Information Services, Inc. Lines: 7 Message-ID: <33C820F4.6C11@widtech.com> Reply-To: jdalexa@widtech.com NNTP-Posting-Host: jdalexa.his.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8938 Greetings, For an edited transcript of the 1 July BeeChat forum featuring Dr. Pedro Rodrigues, point your browser at: http://www.widtech.com/beechat/ John Alexander Article 8939 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!prodigy.com!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: Worker Bee Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: saved again.. Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 18:58:21 -0500 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Lines: 56 Message-ID: <33C81A1D.1904@earthlink.net> References: Reply-To: dvisrael@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ip94.rocky-mount.nc.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) To: anncat@bu.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8939 Ira Seskin wrote: > > After my "Update" message yesterday, I got a call from the bee inspector, > who , when hearing of the swarm in my hedges said he would lend me a "nuc" > if he could catch them. Whewn I got home from work there was a happy hive > where the hedge WAS. Along with that was a note in my mailbox saying that > these bees looked too good to waste, and if I didnt want them, he would > take them.. if I did want them, I should just call him when the nuc was > empty. Mailorder three medium supers, 20 PIERCO waxed frames, bottom > board, inside cover and outside cover. BetterBee catalog. > > I am calling this hive OMEGA.. yes I had dubbed the first one ALPHA. Next > time they swarm next spring... IM NOT GETTING ANOTHER HIVE!!!!! My wife > gave me a choice... her ... or the bees.... > > hummmmmmm. Im thinking... Im thinking..... > > -I- > > -- > > /| __ > / | ,-~ / > Y :| // / > | jj /( .^ > >-"~"-v" > /^ ^ Y > /o o | > ( ~T~ j > >._-' _./ I'm > / "~" | Having A Bad > Y _, | HARE > /| ;-"~ _ l Day > / l/ ,-"~ \ > \//\/ .- \ > Y / Y > ) > l I ! > > ]\ _\ /"\ > (" ~----( ~ Y. ) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ->Bugs the Wonder Bunny<- > > ira_seskin@bmugbos.org (e- mail only... no attachments) > iraseski@xensei.com (e-mail when sending attachements) > http://www.xensei.com/users/iraseski > > "Live Free or Die" I read with much interest several comments about beekeepers wives. My wife readilly helps me when needed and without suit or veil if there is a good honey flow. She stays away if there is no honey flow. She is so sweet that the bees would consume her in just a few minutes. Most of my beekeeping friends involve their wives in their beekeeping endevors. BTW 2 hives anr no more of a bother than one. I have three hives in my back yard it the city limits. No problems for 4 years. Don 11 hives in NC Article 8940 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!nntp.sprintmail.com!nntp.sprintmail.com!news@sprintmail.com From: hbowles@sprintmail.com (Howard Bowles) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: How to start??? Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 14:24:00 GMT Lines: 28 Message-ID: <33c79339.9131662@nntp.a001.sprintmail.com> References: <5q685e$qej$1@hermes.louisville.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: sdn-ts-005watacop12.dialsprint.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8940 Contact your local agricultural extension service. They should be able to help you, if not them specifically, they should be able to tell you who to contact. Howard On 11 Jul 1997 21:21:50 GMT, caw@SPAM@bcc.louisville.edu wrote: >Way back I lived near a man who kept bees, and I thought it was really interesting. >Well now that I'm grown up(subject to debate according to some) I'm considering >getting a hive of my own. I have a garden and most all of my neighbors have gardens, >flowers clover in the yards, etc. > >Is this doable? who should I contact? I don't have any idea if I can even legally >have a hive in my yard. > >I live in Louisville, Kentucky. > >thanks all, and have a good weekend. > > >Chris > > > Article 8941 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!Frankfurt.Germany.EU.net!news-reader.Dortmund.Germany.EU.net!not-for-mail From: "Mark" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Help,Swarm of Bees Date: 13 Jul 1997 06:08:51 GMT Organization: Online Pro GmbH & Co. KG Lines: 16 Message-ID: <01bc8f0f$d3e653e0$LocalHost@default> Reply-To: mmarb@s-direktnet.de NNTP-Posting-Host: host105.seitz.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1160 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8941 Hi, In the am today from vacation back coming and have looked equal after my bees. But in a bees nest are 10 bevy cubicles and all slipping. The old queen isn't more there. In the bees nest are still open brood existent. What I must then do? when goes away the swarm of bees? What making the bees with the many queens? I do hope I get quick a news! Thanks Article 8942 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!op.net!news.bconnex.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news From: Peter Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Crooked comb Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 22:14:45 -0400 Organization: PlantCAD Ssytems Lines: 21 Message-ID: <33C83A15.4F68@plantdesign.com> References: <33C31085.D382EE46@hotmail.com> Reply-To: preck@plantdesign.com NNTP-Posting-Host: dam-as7s51.erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Received-On: 13 Jul 1997 02:08:58 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8942 drox wrote: > > I am new to beekeeping, having just started with two hives this spring. > They got a rather late start and are just beginning to draw out comb in > the supers for (hopefully) cut comb honey. I started with strips of wax > foundation about 1 1/2" wide at the tops of the frames only, and the > bees are building wavy crooked comb. I am concerned that the frames > will stick together once they are filled with honey and I try to take > them out of the supers. Is this a valid concern? Is there anything I > can do about it? Thanx. > > -Drox I've never heard of this 1 1/2" foundation before... Why didn't you use full foundation sheets? IS this a cost issue or are you trying something new? If the comb comes in real wavy or crooked then you got a real mess on your hands! Pete Article 8943 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!btnet-feed3!news.worldonline.nl!not-for-mail From: "bouke scheffer" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Holydays in New Zealand Date: 13 Jul 1997 10:59:46 GMT Organization: World Online Lines: 7 Message-ID: <01bc8f7a$fb6ae500$5191f1c3@bnscheff> NNTP-Posting-Host: grngn1-p81.worldonline.nl X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8943 Hallo Beekeepers in New Zealand, I plan to go for 5/6 weeks on holyday to NZ in nov/dec. I should like to get some tips and adresses to go there. Of course it should be nice when I (we) can meet some beekeepers when it is on our route. Please inform me. Bouke Scheffer The Netherlands Article 8944 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!infeed2.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!newstf02.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: nilamda@aol.com (NILAMDA) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Help,Swarm of Bees Date: 13 Jul 1997 11:19:37 GMT Lines: 34 Message-ID: <19970713111901.HAA12796@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <01bc8f0f$d3e653e0$LocalHost@default> Organization: AOL, http://www.aol.co.uk X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8944 In article <01bc8f0f$d3e653e0$LocalHost@default>, "Mark" writes: >In the am today from vacation back coming and have >looked equal after my bees. >But in a bees nest are 10 bevy cubicles and all >slipping. >The old queen isn't more there. In the bees nest are >still open brood existent. >What I must then do? when goes away the swarm of bees? >What making the bees with the many queens? > >I do hope I get quick a news! I will try to interpret your messge and comment as follows:- But in a bees nest are 10 bevy cubicles (QUEEN CELLS)and all >slipping.(ARE CAPPED) >The old queen isn't more there.(HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS?) In the bees nest are >still open brood existent. (FROM EGGS LAID BEFORE SWARM) >What I must then do? ( ASSUMING A SWARM HAS GONE DESTROY ALL BUT ONE OF THE QUEEN CELLS AND EXAMINE AGAIN IN 3/4 WEEKS TIME) When goes away the swarm of bees? (MOST PROBABLY VERY SOON AFTER THE FIRST Q CELL WAS CAPPED) >What making the bees with the many queens? ( THIS IS NATURE'S WAY OF MAKING INCREASE) Hope you understand and that this helps you. Bitte bist du Deutscher? Ich glaube du sollst ein gutes Buch von Biene lesen. Tony Malin RUGBY UK > Article 8945 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: Thom Bradley Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: saved again.. Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 07:43:12 -0400 Organization: Netcom Lines: 11 Message-ID: <33C8BF50.4DD1@ix.netcom.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: nor-va1-04.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Jul 13 6:42:27 AM CDT 1997 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8945 Ira Seskin wrote: My wife > gave me a choice... her ... or the bees.... > > hummmmmmm. Im thinking... Im thinking..... > If you don't wish to make the choice there is something you can do. Be careful though, it's like opening pandora's box.Wax is an excellent product for doing lot's of neat stuff.Get her into candles and you will soon here complaints of insufficient colonies to support the "momma wax moth". Article 8946 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!infeed2.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 06:52:54 -0600 From: cinglegap@aol.com Subject: Why have my bees died? Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Message-ID: <868732122.31378@dejanews.com> Reply-To: cinglegap@aol.com Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service To: cinglegap@aol.com X-Article-Creation-Date: Sat Jul 12 18:28:42 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 152.163.206.12 (ww-tb08.proxy.aol.com) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.02; Update a; AOL 3.0; Windows 95) X-Authenticated-Sender: cinglegap@aol.com Lines: 12 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8946 Last spring, one year ago, I started my first bee colony. I had two swarms and a very active colony. The bees wintered over. Early in the spring, I checked and found very few larva. After checking with my supplier, I supplied a new queen in the hive. A week or so later, I checked to find some increased larva in the hive. Gradually, however, the colony has declined to zero. I get all kinds of explanations from my supplier, some of which appears contradictory. Incidently, I live in the north west mountains of North Carolina. Can anyone advise me of what has gone wrong and what I should do? Thanks very much . -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet Article 8947 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!not-for-mail From: moser@news.unc.edu (Robin M. Shapiro) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Why have my bees died? Date: 13 Jul 1997 19:27:08 GMT Organization: Information & Library Science, UNC-CH Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5qba6c$ajb$1@fddinewz.oit.unc.edu> References: <868732122.31378@dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ruby.ils.unc.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8947 North Carolina has friendly, helpful, and skilled bee inspectors. If you call your county extension agent, he/she should be able to put you in touch with someone. Here in the Triangle area, we have a number of Master Beekeepers and a few Master Craftsman beekeepers who provide lots of help for beginners! An inspector or an experienced beekeeper may be able to tell a lot just by looking at your hive and asking some questions. Also, if there's a beekeepers' association near you, consider joining! This is a great state for bees, and there are lots of people ready to share their knowledge and experience. There's also the Master Beekeeper program, with 4 levels of certification based on knowledge, experience, and volunteer service (like a Master Gardener program). Good luck! Robin M. Shapiro | "Our memories are card-indexes consulted, | and then put back in disorder by moser@ils.unc.edu | authorities whom we do not control." | -- Cyril Connolly Article 8948 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <33C92B98.74AA@ibm.net> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 12:25:12 -0700 From: Al Welk Reply-To: ajwelk@ibm.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Weak Queen - Kill or keep Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.72.134.70 Lines: 20 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsm.ibm.net!ibm.net!news1.ibm.net!166.72.134.70 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8948 I requeend one of my hives about 3-4 weeks ago. The queen is a midnight, clipped and marked. The hive eagerly accepted her. When she was put in the hive had some old brood that looked dead on some of the inner frames. I guessed that with a new queen that they would clean it out once she got to going. I have been checking the hive about every 5 days with almost no smoke. The new queen started laying only on the outer frames not working the inner. she has just started to lay a little on the inner. She is laying a VERY weak pattern. I have to hunt to find any sign of eggs. The bees are putting honey in the inner frames that normally there would be full brood. Questions: 1. Should I just leave her alone and be more patient? 2. Am I opening the hive too much and this is preventing her from really getting to work? 3. Should I call the queen supplier and give him hell that this queen is not doing her job? Get hime to send me a new quuen and nix this one? I'm in the North Georgia area near Atlanta where we are getting to be towards the middle to end of the flow. WE paln on pulling about the 2nd week of Aug. Article 8949 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: crispin@paonline.com (Crispin Foster) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Summer harvest Date: Sun, 13 Jul 97 18:02:32 GMT Organization: Pennsylvania Online [Usenet News Server for Hire] Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5qb4ev$460@news.paonline.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hbg-25-249.paonline.com X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!infeed2.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news-out.microserve.net!news-in.microserve.net!news3.paonline.com!news.paonline.com!unknown Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8949 I would be interested to here how other beekeepers in the mid atlantic states are doing this summer. We are having a drought here in Pennsylvania and I was expecting a poor crop of honey. I robbed my colony of buckfasts yesterday and couldn't believe the 125 lb of honey I spun out. This is a colony that also made 3 nucs in May. I'll probably get another 60-80 lb at the end of August from them. The seven new colonies that I started from nucs in May ( Buckfasts and carniolans ) Have all filled their 1 !/2 deep broodchambers with comb and honey and are now putting honey up in the supers. I didn't think things would get better than last season but so far looks like it will. Hope other beekeepers are doing as well. Crispin Foster Article 8950 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!infeed2.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news-out.microserve.net!news-in.microserve.net!news.paonline.com!unknown From: crispin@paonline.com (Crispin Foster) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Greek Beekeeping Date: Sun, 13 Jul 97 17:43:50 GMT Organization: Pennsylvania Online [Usenet News Server for Hire] Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5qb3bs$460@news.paonline.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hbg-25-249.paonline.com X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8950 Can anyone supply me with the name and address of any Greek beekeeping associations? Are there any Greek beekeeping journals? I'm trying to help a computer illiterate Greek friend find information to improve his 30 colony sideline operation. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Crispin Foster Article 8951 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!bullseye.news.demon.net!demon!newsgate.unisource.nl!halley.pi.net!news From: jacob Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Asian Ladies Date: 13 Jul 1997 19:53:38 GMT Organization: World Access/Planet Internet Message-ID: <5qbbo2$rtk@halley.pi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 145.220.210.27 Lines: 10 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8951 I've found the pefect site with nude Asian ladies. Much more than you can find in any newsgroup. http://home.pi.net/~sappie/playboy.htm Article 8952 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.IAEhv.nl!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Ken Lawrence Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Summer harvest Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 16:12:52 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 30 Message-ID: <33C944D3.6F7E@worldnet.att.net> References: <5qb4ev$460@news.paonline.com> Reply-To: beeman52@worldnet.att.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.209.238 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-WorldNet (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8952 Crispin Foster wrote: > > I would be interested to here how other beekeepers in the mid atlantic states > are doing this summer. We are having a drought here in Pennsylvania and I was > expecting a poor crop of honey. I robbed my colony of buckfasts yesterday and > couldn't believe the 125 lb of honey I spun out. This is a colony that also > made 3 nucs in May. I'll probably get another 60-80 lb at the end of August > from them. > The seven new colonies that I started from nucs in May ( Buckfasts and > carniolans ) Have all filled their 1 !/2 deep broodchambers with comb and > honey and are now putting honey up in the supers. > I didn't think things would get better than last season but so far looks like > it will. > Hope other beekeepers are doing as well. > Crispin Foster Hello Crispin: Ken Lawrence here about 25 miles north of Kansas City Mo. I just pulled 19 supers off of 12 hives that were in a Basswood Grove. I got about 600 lbs of very good light honey extracted today. Moisture was a tad high but have it in a storage tank with about 120 deg heat on it. It was about 19.1 after it all got put in the tank. have about 18 more hives that some have 6 supers and one hive made by BARRY BIRKEY (a Condo) that has 7 supers and one Hive body on it. You can see his condo at http://www.birkey.com/BLB/UpClose/index.html Just below it is a picture of me with one my beetrailers. Will be moving bees tonight to the Soybeans which is in full bloom. Ken Article 8953 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: a9@a.a Subject: $$ LOAN BUSINESS, EASY MONTHLY INCOME, NO BRAINER $$$$$ Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Organization: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: inselgate-u.unibe.ch Message-ID: <33c97d8b.0@news.unibe.ch> Date: 14 Jul 97 01:14:51 GMT Lines: 104 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!demos!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.apfel.de!serra.unipi.it!news-ge.switch.ch!swsbe6.switch.ch!news.unibe.ch!inselgate-u.unibe.ch Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8953 I have participated in the standard "Please put me on your mailing list" letter and found it to be worth my time (I get 1 or 2 handfulls or letters every day) but I also found that it's results were nowhere near what I expected due mainly to people not sending in the money but rather spreading the letter without paying for it. I participated in that mainly as an experiment and found that there are a tremendous amount of people willing to do it. I thought about how to, first, eliminate the "non-pay" problem and, second, to create a monthly income. I came upon the solution and decided to start a new program. I decided that there were 3 things that this new program needed in order to work for everyone and they were: 1.) It needed to be very simple and easy for anyone to do, and, 2.) It needed to be inexpensive enough for even the poorest of people, and, 3.) It needs to be DUPLICATABLE. I think you will find this program to meet those requirements. I have put lots of thought into it and I ask that you PLEASE do NOT modify it. This WILL WORK if you follow it. This system is based on the unconditional "loaning" of money to people. Simply say, "I am loaning you this $2 as an act of goodwill to help you in your financial need, you may pay me back if and when you can." You should find 5 or more people who will send $2 to the 5 needy people on this list AND MAINTAIN 5 or more people who will do the same. You should put your name on postition number 5 and move each of the other names up one position. The name originally on position number 1 gets removed. You should be able to contact each of your 5 or more people to see if they are going to be active this month. If not then you need to find one or more people to be active in order to maintain at least 5. I am not speaking about the 5 people on the list but rather the 5 new people you have found. I would highly suggest having more than 5 in any given month. Now I know that this would be extremely easy to do since I can think of at least 20 people myself who will do this consistently. The key is to maintain at LEAST 5 active people. If you don't then you can't expect for the rest of the people to do it either and you can't expect for this system to work. This system is a no-brainer, and if someone can't afford the $10 + stamps for this then they truly ARE in need! It is OK to use the internet to find people but I think it would be easier to find them through people that you know. This way it will be easier for you to contact them every month to ask about their being active, unless someone is willing to give you their e-mail address. Here are some numbers: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 4 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 4 people = $8, Total now $8 Level 2: $2 x 16 people = $32, Total now $8 + $32 = $40 Level 3: $2 x 64 people = $128, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 = $168 Level 4: $2 x 256 people = $512, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 + $512 = $680 Level 5: $2 x 1024 people = $2048, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 + $512 + $2048 = *** $2728 *** Yearly income: $2728 x 12 months = $32,736 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 5 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 5 people = $10, Total now $10 Level 2: $2 x 25 people = $50, Total now $10 + $50 = $60 Level 3: $2 x 125 people = $250, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 = $310 Level 4: $2 x 500 people = $1000, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 + $1000 = $1310 Level 5: $2 x 2500 people = $5000, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 + $1000 + $5000 = *** $6310 *** Yearly income: $6310 x 12 months = $75,720 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 6 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 6 people = $12, Total now $12 Level 2: $2 x 36 people = $72, Total now $12 + $72 = $84 Level 3: $2 x 216 people = $432, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 = $516 Level 4: $2 x 1296 people = $2592, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 + $2592 = $3108 Level 5: $2 x 7776 people = $15552, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 + $2592 + $15552 = *** $18660 *** Yearly income: $18660 x 12 months = $223,920 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 7 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 7 people = $14, Total now $14 Level 2: $2 x 49 people = $98, Total now $14 + $98 = $112 Level 3: $2 x 343 people = $686, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 = $798 Level 4: $2 x 2401 people = $4802, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 + $4802 = $5600 Level 5: $2 x 16807 people = $33614, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 + $4802 + $33614 = *** $39214 *** Yearly income: $39214 x 12 months = $470,568 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep in mind that it does not matter what day of the month that someone chooses to be active. It DOES matter that they are active on that day EVERY month. The key to this is DUPLICATION! You must treat this as a business. If you treat it like a hobby that is how it will treat you. You could even organize small meetings with your people and their prospects and work with your leaders. Think of how easy this would be for you, how reasonable this is, and of how good the chances are of it working for you. You may need to hire someone to open all the envelopes. NOTE: I decided on $2 instead of $1 because it is more feasible and it won't matter much for someone to send $2 as opposed to $1. Also I was against $5 as that becomes too expensive to duplicate. Mail $2 every month with a piece of paper saying "I am loaning you this $2 as an act of goodwill to help you in your financial need, you may pay me back if and when you can" to the following needy people: #1 Robert Jezil 114 Jefferson Ave. Slidell, LA 70460 #2 Phil Walther Jr. 9495 Annapolis Lane North Maple Grove, MN 55369 #3 C. E. Burkman 170 University Ave. W Suite 12-129 Waterloo, Ontario N2L 3E9 #4 A. Bailey 1207 Reeves Road Plainfield, IN 46168 #5 J. Martin P.O. Box 2292 Reston, Va. 20195 Article 8954 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!demos!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.webspan.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news From: Peter Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Uninvited words on my desktop Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 22:08:29 -0400 Organization: PlantCAD Ssytems Lines: 26 Message-ID: <33C8389D.281F@plantdesign.com> References: <01bc8bc2$b85c3c20$85c2c6d0@cpcustom> <19970710044401.AAA23871@ladder02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: preck@plantdesign.com NNTP-Posting-Host: dam-as7s51.erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Received-On: 13 Jul 1997 02:02:41 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8954 Pollinator wrote: > > In article <01bc8bc2$b85c3c20$85c2c6d0@cpcustom>, "Wishin" > writes: > > >I am receiving some obscene articles - isn't this supposed to BEE about > >BEES? I have kids on this computer! > > > > > > The bee group is one of the better ones -- so far..... Some groups have > only an occasional relevant post, the rest being unrelenting trash. > Usenet is dying, unless a way can be found to stop these jerks. > > I wonder what nine men and women in their ivory tower would have decided, > had they been subjected to the same barrage? > > Pollinator@aol.com > http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html > Pollinator@aol.com > Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA > Practical Pollination Page http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html This group is suprisingly free of the normal SPAM and porno advertising associated with news groups. PLEASE fight to keep it this way before it's too late. Article 8955 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <33C9405A.140D@povn.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 16:53:46 -0400 From: "J. F Hensler" Reply-To: hensler@povn.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Washing bee gloves Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.96.81.238 Lines: 7 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.dsource.com!206.96.81.238 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8955 Do any of you "old" pros out there have a sure-fire way to remove the propolis and wax from bee gloves without ruining the gloves? Thanks in advance, Skip Article 8956 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!demos!news.maxwell.syr.edu!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!vtaix.cc.vt.edu!adamf From: adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Some tips and pointers regarding spam and spurious posts Date: 14 Jul 1997 00:14:23 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech Lines: 201 Message-ID: <5qbr0v$mim$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: vtaix.cc.vt.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8956 Hello folks, found this on the web. The site where this came from is: http://w3.one.net/~nemo/antispam Fighting Cross-Posting, Spam, and Off-Topic Trash by SLiNKy GaL help and inspiration from Nemo and Tango -> Why fight it ? There are tens of thousands of newsgroups in existence today, catering to all topics and subjects. If you have something to say, chances are there is at least one newsgroup that is on-topic. Almost all newsgroups in existence have been, or are being, filled with off-topic garbage. -> But every group has it.. deal with it ! Why should we ? If you have something to say, it won’t do much good targeting it to a group that has no interest or care in the subject matter. There are thousands of newsgroups. Use the ones that are relevant to what you are posting. Usenet is completely jammed with off-topic trash, and is beginning to lose its original purpose. -> I can post what I want ! Tell the authorities at your ISP that. PHILOSOPHY Our approach to fighting off-topic cross-posting is non-violent, non-accusatory and non-offensive. Many people who contribute to huge, ongoing, cross-posted threads do not realize that they are cross-posting. Others realize they are posting to many groups, but are not aware of the importance of posting on-topic, or that they are annoying others. Advertisers, for the most part, are relatively ignorant to the concept of netiquette. The purpose of these efforts is to educate, and to promote a medium where on-topic discussion is encouraged and welcomed. We hope to restore the original purpose of Usenet: a free, open forum for information sharing. DEFINING TARGETS Spammers People who start or add to off-topic, cross-posted threads. Individuals answering the thread add groups and next thing you know, you have a growing eyesore being sent to fifty newsgroups. These monstrosities can be propagated for many months at a time, filling tons of groups with off-topic trash. Trolls Spammers who purposely send offensive or controversial messages to as many newsgroups as possible, in hopes of starting a long-lasting flame war. Advertisements Sleazy or irrelevant advertisements are usually good targets. Not *all* advertisements on the net are offensive or unwanted enough to draw an attack. Use restraint whenever possible. Make Money Fast Scammers (also known as M*M*F) People who post pyramid chain letters, commonly known as "Make Money Fast"s, that are not only illegal, they're a plague to all newsgroups. Persistent spammers The ones who just won't give it up. METHOD Combatting Off-Topic Cross-Posting ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The method consists of a polite, *private* email to each user who posts to the threads, asking that they remove your group from any future postings. An example: ** Please remove rec.humor from any future postings to this thread. Your message was cross-posted to several newsgroups, many of which are unrelated to the subject matter. Rec.humor does not start, contribute to, or want these off-topic messages. Feel free to continue this discussion on the appropriate newsgroups. We ask that you please trim out rec.humor from your Newsgroups header when responding to these messages. Thank you. :) ** This message should be sent to as many contributors as possible. In practice, this can be a time-consuming task. To make the process easier, save your form letter into a file, and insert the text file in your messages. (This is so you don’t have to type it out every time). A useful anti-spam gun is located at http://www.compulink.co.uk/~net-services/spam/ . This program apparently will work with Eudora, Pegasus, Netscape, MSIE, and Agent software. It allows the user to prepare a reply automatically. Depending on the severity of the cross-posting, it may require the efforts of a group of dedicated people. Patience is the key. It may take a month or two before the threads are completely off your group. The more people that help out, the better. A cross-poster will think twice about posting again if he/she continually receives emails. A User Responds Sometimes, users will respond to these requests. If they ask for help on how to trim out a newsgroup from their headers, tell them how. If they apologize, accept. The main purpose of these efforts is to create and maintain a level of respect. A User Refuses to Comply, Flames, or Mail-Bombs This can happen. There are some people who believe that they can spew whatever garbage they wish in whatever forum(s) they fancy. They have no respect for the medium or its users. In these cases, it may be necessary to turn to the authorities at their ISP. It is the duty of ISPs to ensure that their customers are using the medium in an appropriate fashion. Your Email Bounces Back In this case, it is obvious that the person sending the spam has forged his/her email ID. Forging email IDs, along with spamming, is contrary to ISPs’ policy. In this case, report the user to their postmaster. See below on the particulars. Reporting to Postmasters and ISP Authorities This is to be used only as a *last resort*. Postmasters are literally flooded on a daily basis with complaints about users. If you are to report a user to his/her ISP, ensure that they have sufficiently breached netiquette and will continue to abuse Usenet if not reported. This avenue is reserved for persistent spammers, flamers, mail-bombers, those who forge their email IDs, and M*M*Fers. To do so, send a message to postmaster@. You can find out where the person is posting from by showing full headers on your news reader, and reading the NNTP Posting Host line and the Path: line. Or, you can show full headers in your mail software, and read from them where the person’s email originated. In the message to the postmaster, send a copy of the offender’s post/email, WITH FULL HEADERS INCLUDED. You may have to copy-and-paste the headers into the message. Briefly inform the postmaster of what the person did. If a letter to postmaster@ bounces, try policy@ or abuse@. If those bounce, try root@. One of these should get through. If not, check the headers again and make sure you have the proper site. Do Not Make the Problem Worse ! Sometimes you may feel the urge to post to the cross-posted thread and ask that your group be removed, or flame the clueless jerks who continue to propagate it. These particular actions have proven (through trial and error) to be ineffective. In cross-posting your message, you are violating policy and netiquette, and are stooping to the level of the contributors. This serves no purpose but to decrease your effectiveness, and it may get you in trouble with the authorities at your ISP. In all cases, avoid mail-bombing. Combatting Unwanted/Irrelevant Advertisements ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Same method as combatting cross-posting - write a polite email requesting that the advertisement not be repeated on your group. If a user persists, or has sent his/her original message to a very high number of newsgroups, write a note to his/her postmaster. Combatting M*M*F ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ These people are the scum of Usenet and should be reported to their postmasters immediately. THE AFTERMATH - MAINTENANCE Once the threads are gone, and your group is clean, it is necessary to continue to uphold the rule of relevance. Cross-posting *will* resurface from time to time. To combat this, appoint a user or a group of users that read the newsgroup regularly. Their task will be to uphold relevance by notifying of off-topic postings, and (if applicable), distributing and enforcing the group’s FAQ. This method that I have documented has proven to be effective in alt.rave and alt.life.sucks. At one time, both of these newsgroups were almost overrun by off-topic garbage, which made up 40%-75% of their messages. Now, they are virtually spam-free. Fighting off-topic garbage in a newsgroup can be frustrating and time-consuming, but it is worth it in the end. Adam -- _________________ Adam Finkelstein adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu http://sunsite.unc.edu/bees/adamf Article 8957 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.gte.net!news From: douglask@gte.net (D. Kersh) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queen rearing Date: 14 Jul 1997 01:19:14 GMT Organization: GTE Intelligent Network Services, GTE INS Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5qbuqi$7qv$1@news12.gte.net> References: <01bc8e7d$b983a580$751401cf@mypc.tdsnet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 1cust34.max32.los-angeles.ca.ms.uu.net X-Auth: D11E97121D88D7DC51D68491 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8957 "Don" wrote: >Is anyone out there into queen rearing if so e-mail me at >dmelton@conc.tdsnet.com > >thanks Don The link below will send you to Glenn Apiaries: http://member.aol.com/queenb95/web/home.html Tom and Suki are really nice people plus they raise queens. They hosted a beekeeping field trip by the Beekeeping Association of Southern California and the Los Angeles and Orange County organizations on Saturday July 12, 1997. Everyone had a great time, learned a lot and (as far as I know) no one got stung!!:-) Doug Article 8958 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.gte.net!news From: douglask@gte.net (D. Kersh) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Washing bee gloves Date: 14 Jul 1997 01:22:19 GMT Organization: GTE Intelligent Network Services, GTE INS Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5qbv0b$7qv$2@news12.gte.net> References: <33C9405A.140D@povn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 1cust34.max32.los-angeles.ca.ms.uu.net X-Auth: 511E97915C8357DC51560412 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8958 "J. F Hensler" wrote: >Do any of you "old" pros out there have a sure-fire way to remove the >propolis and wax from bee gloves without ruining the gloves? > >Thanks in advance, > >Skip The first question to ask is "how many wear gloves at all and when they do how often?" Doug Article 8959 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!demos!news.maxwell.syr.edu!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ix.netcom.com!news From: "Jack Griffes" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Weak Queen - Kill or keep Date: 14 Jul 1997 02:03:55 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 80 Message-ID: <01bc8ffa$28a79ac0$2a8cb8cd@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> References: <33C92B98.74AA@ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: tol-oh1-10.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Jul 13 9:03:55 PM CDT 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8959 Al Welk wrote in article <33C92B98.74AA@ibm.net>... > I requeend one of my hives about 3-4 weeks ago. Unless the weather was flat nasty for 10-14 straight days covering the time this queen would have made her mating flights at the queen rearers mating yard you should have gotten a well mated queen. Sometimes the Spring queens aren't as well mated simply due to poor weather for mating flights but in June that should not have been the case. That notwithstanding an occassional poor queen will pop up and even an occassional drone layer. >The queen is a > midnight, clipped and marked. > The hive eagerly accepted her. When she was put in the hive had some > old brood that looked dead on some of the inner frames. I guessed that > with a new queen that they would clean it out once she got to going. > I have been checking the hive about every 5 days with almost no smoke. > The new queen started laying only on the outer frames not working the > inner. she has just started to lay a little on the inner. She is > laying a VERY weak pattern. I have to hunt to find any sign of eggs. Is this hive strong or has it seriously dwindled and that is the trouble perhaps?? (not enough bees to support lots of brood) > The bees are putting honey in the inner frames that normally there would > be full brood. > Questions: > 1. Should I just leave her alone and be more patient? NO - replace her or any queen as soon as a problem is positively noted. > 2. Am I opening the hive too much and this is preventing her from really > getting to work? You might be making extra work for the workers but even frequent checks should not slow things down very noticably. > 3. Should I call the queen supplier and give him heck that this queen is > not doing her job? Get hime to send me a new quuen and nix this one? I would suggest POLITELY calling and telling of the problem. Then ya just might get a replacement queen. But whether ya get a free replacement or not ya do wanna replace her SOON or sooner. > I'm in the North Georgia area near Atlanta where we are getting to be > towards the middle to end of the flow. WE paln on pulling about the 2nd > week of Aug. What this means is that you will not get any honey production benefit from the new queen BUT they still have to "overwinter" so a good young queen would help on that project. -- Jack Griffes Ottawa Lake, MI USA e-mail: Griffes at ix.netcom.com Web site: http://pw2.netcom.com/~griffes/ "Always be nice to other people, they outnumber you 5.5 billion to 1..." - Steve White! " Article 8960 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!demos!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ix.netcom.com!news From: "Jack Griffes" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Washing bee gloves Date: 14 Jul 1997 02:25:24 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 45 Message-ID: <01bc8ffd$2947cb00$2a8cb8cd@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> References: <33C9405A.140D@povn.com> <5qbv0b$7qv$2@news12.gte.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: tol-oh1-10.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Jul 13 9:25:24 PM CDT 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8960 D. Kersh wrote in article <5qbv0b$7qv$2@news12.gte.net>... > "J. F Hensler" wrote: > > >Do any of you "old" pros out there have a sure-fire way to remove the > >propolis and wax from bee gloves without ruining the gloves? Buy rubber coated bee gloves instead of leather - then ya just wash 'em. > > > >Thanks in advance, > > > >Skip > The first question to ask is "how many wear gloves at all and when > they do how often?" > Doug My kids wear gloves ALL the time unless the job requires higher level dexterity and must be done bare-handed. I prefer not to wear gloves but will wear 'em if the bees are testy due to weather, if I have got to go somewhere with clean hands afterwards (with no access to Boraxo to clean up with), or if the job must be done mighty speedy so we just don't have time to be real easy and gentle about it nor to keep up with the smoke (we may have a bunch open doing splits via "yard trashing" for instance). -- Jack Griffes Country Jack's Honeybee Farm Honeybee Improvement Program Ottawa Lake, MI USA e-mail: Griffes at ix.netcom.com Web site: http://pw2.netcom.com/~griffes/ "Always be nice to other people, they outnumber you 5.5 billion to 1..." - Steve White! " Article 8961 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!infeed2.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!newstf02.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pollinator@aol.com (Pollinator) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Malathion spraying for Medfly in FL Date: 14 Jul 1997 03:08:14 GMT Lines: 86 Message-ID: <19970714030801.XAA03199@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <33C71172.4EE84C94@magicnet.net> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8961 In article <33C71172.4EE84C94@magicnet.net>, Mike writes: >Any beekeepers in Cent.FL have any ideas to protect their bees/hives or >experience with the malathion spraying being done to kill the >Mediterranean fruit fly? The first thing to do is to get a copy of the label, which should be public information. If the formulation is, as a bait, as Andy Nachbaur mentions, it should not be toxic to bees, and there won't be any directions about bees on the label. If there are no bee protection directions, you won't have any problem. If it is in a liquid formulation, there will be specific directions prohibiting its application when bees are foraging in the application area. The label directions are the law, and the applicators have to obey it. They don't want to bother to monitor when bees are foraging, and it is common for them to announce the areas to be sprayed and tell beekeepers to "protect the bees." This kind of announcement is their statement of intent to ignore the label directions. You cannot protect wild pollinators, and many beekeepers can't even protect their own. They may have a boss who frowns of them taking a day off work to protect their hives. Or they may have bees in dozens of locations, and cannot be everywhere the plane can go in one day. We as beekeepers have got to stand up and MAKE these arrogant public officials who think they are above the law, to obey it. BTW there is a lot of lobbying (EPA) right now to exempt public spraying programs from the bee protection directions. So they are trying to make official the de facto condition that exists now. I've seen it time and time again. It's time to arrest the perpetrators of these criminal acts for wilful pesticide misuse. Offer to help set up monitoring to determine the times the bees are actively foraging in the treatment area. They will most likely ignore the offer, but you have made the effort. Document this offer. Most likely you will have to document the crime. Show the applications occurring while bees are foraging with camera, camcorder. Write down times, places, plane ID numbers, etc. Make all the noise you can in the media. Make sure the reporters understand that, if the applicators do not monitor when bees are foraging, and spray accordingly, they are perpetrating a crime. Contact appropriate public officials. Don't let them put you off; keep on it. I've seen these spray programs sink some beekeepers. They nearly sunk me in the illegal applications after Hurricane Hugo. North Carolina did it illegally after Hurricane Fran. Florida did it after Hurricane Andrew. It's been done for gypsy moths, grasshoppers and many other pests. We cannot stop the spraying; after all these are real pests. But we MUST make them obey the law and stop MISusing the pesticides. Malathion is not a residual pesticide. If the applicators will obey the law, applying only when bees are NOT foraging in the area, they will not harm the bees in any significant amount. But violations are leaving increasing areas of the country barren for a long time, until wild pollinators and beekeepers have a chance to recover. You will note that public officials who comment on the loss of pollinators will never refer to this massive misuse, which is a big part of the problem. Varroa mites have the attention and the blame right now. But we were losing pollinators before varroa mites. Varroa mites only affect wild and poorly kept honeybees. They do not affect bumblebees, solitary bees, and honeybees kept by beekeepers who are careful managers. Many times we have an unrecognized synergistic effect. When you add pesticide misuse to bee diseases and pests, their effects are greatly multiplied. Bees that are weakened by losses of the field force and/or stored poisoned pollen have little chance against many things that they normally would fight off. Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA Practical Pollination Page http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html Article 8962 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: a2@a.a Subject: $$$$ NEW SYSTEM, BETTER THAN "ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST" $$$$$ Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Organization: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: inselgate-u.unibe.ch Message-ID: <33c9abf7.0@news.unibe.ch> Date: 14 Jul 97 04:32:55 GMT Lines: 104 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!join.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!in2p3.fr!news-ge.switch.ch!swsbe6.switch.ch!news.unibe.ch!inselgate-u.unibe.ch Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8962 I have participated in the standard "Please put me on your mailing list" letter and found it to be worth my time (I get 1 or 2 handfulls or letters every day) but I also found that it's results were nowhere near what I expected due mainly to people not sending in the money but rather spreading the letter without paying for it. I participated in that mainly as an experiment and found that there are a tremendous amount of people willing to do it. I thought about how to, first, eliminate the "non-pay" problem and, second, to create a monthly income. I came upon the solution and decided to start a new program. I decided that there were 3 things that this new program needed in order to work for everyone and they were: 1.) It needed to be very simple and easy for anyone to do, and, 2.) It needed to be inexpensive enough for even the poorest of people, and, 3.) It needs to be DUPLICATABLE. I think you will find this program to meet those requirements. I have put lots of thought into it and I ask that you PLEASE do NOT modify it. This WILL WORK if you follow it. This system is based on the unconditional "loaning" of money to people. Simply say, "I am loaning you this $2 as an act of goodwill to help you in your financial need, you may pay me back if and when you can." You should find 5 or more people who will send $2 to the 5 needy people on this list AND MAINTAIN 5 or more people who will do the same. You should put your name on postition number 5 and move each of the other names up one position. The name originally on position number 1 gets removed. You should be able to contact each of your 5 or more people to see if they are going to be active this month. If not then you need to find one or more people to be active in order to maintain at least 5. I am not speaking about the 5 people on the list but rather the 5 new people you have found. I would highly suggest having more than 5 in any given month. Now I know that this would be extremely easy to do since I can think of at least 20 people myself who will do this consistently. The key is to maintain at LEAST 5 active people. If you don't then you can't expect for the rest of the people to do it either and you can't expect for this system to work. This system is a no-brainer, and if someone can't afford the $10 + stamps for this then they truly ARE in need! It is OK to use the internet to find people but I think it would be easier to find them through people that you know. This way it will be easier for you to contact them every month to ask about their being active, unless someone is willing to give you their e-mail address. Here are some numbers: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 4 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 4 people = $8, Total now $8 Level 2: $2 x 16 people = $32, Total now $8 + $32 = $40 Level 3: $2 x 64 people = $128, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 = $168 Level 4: $2 x 256 people = $512, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 + $512 = $680 Level 5: $2 x 1024 people = $2048, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 + $512 + $2048 = *** $2728 *** Yearly income: $2728 x 12 months = $32,736 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 5 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 5 people = $10, Total now $10 Level 2: $2 x 25 people = $50, Total now $10 + $50 = $60 Level 3: $2 x 125 people = $250, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 = $310 Level 4: $2 x 500 people = $1000, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 + $1000 = $1310 Level 5: $2 x 2500 people = $5000, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 + $1000 + $5000 = *** $6310 *** Yearly income: $6310 x 12 months = $75,720 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 6 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 6 people = $12, Total now $12 Level 2: $2 x 36 people = $72, Total now $12 + $72 = $84 Level 3: $2 x 216 people = $432, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 = $516 Level 4: $2 x 1296 people = $2592, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 + $2592 = $3108 Level 5: $2 x 7776 people = $15552, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 + $2592 + $15552 = *** $18660 *** Yearly income: $18660 x 12 months = $223,920 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 7 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 7 people = $14, Total now $14 Level 2: $2 x 49 people = $98, Total now $14 + $98 = $112 Level 3: $2 x 343 people = $686, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 = $798 Level 4: $2 x 2401 people = $4802, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 + $4802 = $5600 Level 5: $2 x 16807 people = $33614, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 + $4802 + $33614 = *** $39214 *** Yearly income: $39214 x 12 months = $470,568 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep in mind that it does not matter what day of the month that someone chooses to be active. It DOES matter that they are active on that day EVERY month. The key to this is DUPLICATION! You must treat this as a business. If you treat it like a hobby that is how it will treat you. You could even organize small meetings with your people and their prospects and work with your leaders. Think of how easy this would be for you, how reasonable this is, and of how good the chances are of it working for you. You may need to hire someone to open all the envelopes. NOTE: I decided on $2 instead of $1 because it is more feasible and it won't matter much for someone to send $2 as opposed to $1. Also I was against $5 as that becomes too expensive to duplicate. Mail $2 every month with a piece of paper saying "I am loaning you this $2 as an act of goodwill to help you in your financial need, you may pay me back if and when you can" to the following needy people: #1 Robert Jezil 114 Jefferson Ave. Slidell, LA 70460 #2 Phil Walther Jr. 9495 Annapolis Lane North Maple Grove, MN 55369 #3 C. E. Burkman 170 University Ave. W Suite 12-129 Waterloo, Ontario N2L 3E9 #4 A. Bailey 1207 Reeves Road Plainfield, IN 46168 #5 J. Martin P.O. Box 2292 Reston, Va. 20195 Article 8963 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.74.141.7!zinger.callamer.com!not-for-mail From: Andy Nachbaur Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Is this a HONEYBEE? Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 18:07:05 -0700 Organization: Call America Internet Services +1 (800) 563-3271 Lines: 6 Message-ID: <33C97BB9.C9AD4F8E@calwest.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: n4-102-236.thegrid.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8963 Check out this page and judge for yourself: http://www.barn9.com/cgi-bin/gallery/mgeorge/honey Is it a honey bee with deformed front legs? Article 8964 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!demos!news.maxwell.syr.edu!News1.Vancouver.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!van-bc!news1.istar.ca!not-for-mail From: billfern@istar.ca (bill fernihough) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Why have my bees died? Date: 14 Jul 1997 04:07:04 GMT Organization: Your Organization Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5qc8l8$6k9$1@news.istar.ca> References: <868732122.31378@dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts12-12.vcr.istar.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (x86 32bit) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8964 You don't sound like an experienced beekeeper, so lets ask a few questions. First, it appears that the population just dwindled down to zero. Many possible reasons. Starvation could be one. Did you find bees in the hive with their bodies stuck in the cells. Like someone pushed them in and left them there. If so, they starved! If not, then likely its Varroa mite. Did you treat for mites at all? If you didn't, then one of the signs of mites is as you have expressed, the hives just dwindle down to nothing. Get more bees, treat with Apistan, two strips to a box, for 6 weeks, and remove the strips. Treat again before winter. You did not mention if the larvae successfully became adults. If not, then you probably have foulbrood. If you still have the hive, break open any larvae cells, have them inspected by an expert and find out if you have foul brood. Did you treat with Terramycin, if not, you need to. Should also treat with fumagillan, for the other disease, called Nosema. Good luck. Organic beekeeping is a tough way to go, and there are lots of people trying it, so stay tuned. Suggest you sign up for this newsgroups and the bee list, BEE-L for lots of good help. Article 8965 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.nap.net!news1.nap.net!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!207.22.81.9!europa.clark.net!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Pete Wolcott Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: foundation press Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:06:32 -0700 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 11 Message-ID: <33C9A5C8.5E5C@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> References: <33C991AD.1FA0@cococo.net> Reply-To: PBJJJ@postoffice.worldnet.att.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.132.211 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-WorldNet (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8965 jason@cococo.net wrote: > > Hello, I am looking for plans and instructions to build a foundation > press. I know that it is probably cheaper to buy the ready-made > foundation, but I am a tinker at heart. If anyone can help let me know. Jason, Look at John Vivian's book, "Keeping Bees" pg 131-141. Plans and pictures. Good Luck, Pete Article 8966 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <33C991AD.1FA0@cococo.net> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:40:45 -0400 From: jason@cococo.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: foundation press Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: pm4-106.cococo.net Lines: 3 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.cococo.net!pm4-106.cococo.net Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8966 Hello, I am looking for plans and instructions to build a foundation press. I know that it is probably cheaper to buy the ready-made foundation, but I am a tinker at heart. If anyone can help let me know. Article 8967 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!demos!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.webspan.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news From: Peter Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Moving a hive Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 21:57:58 -0400 Organization: PlantCAD Ssytems Lines: 51 Message-ID: <33C83626.25A6@plantdesign.com> References: <33BE5A61.5B62@sprintmail.com> Reply-To: preck@plantdesign.com NNTP-Posting-Host: dam-as7s51.erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Received-On: 13 Jul 1997 01:52:12 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8967 Howard Bowles wrote: > > I have recently been able to hive a swarm...I estimate about 5lbs of > bees. The swarm has built up one and is currently finishing the 7th > frame in a second deep super. They appear to be very productive but at > the same time they are considerably more agressive than my other hives > at this site. Because of their industrious nature I do not want to > re-queen yet am concerned about their penchant to chase anyone who comes > close to the hive. I live in a residential area where beekeeping is > permitted but do not wish to push my luck. > I live in the Tacoma, WA area and the weather this year has been at > best, unpredictable and I am not sure when and how would be the best to > move them. I have identified a location for them and the owner is > anxious to have a hive on her property. I estimate about 1 hour to > secure the hive, load it, then move it to its new location. > Does anyone have suggestions on how to move this cantankerous hive? > > Thanks, > > HBowles Every hive I have ever purchased (or sold) required a half hour to 2 hour drive. First two days before, use the normal procedure toget the bees out of the supers an into the hive body(s) -- just like you were going to extract the honey. This help to reduce the weight and reduces the chance that something comes apart. You just put the supers back on after the bees have settled from the move. Wait until after dark and using a pre-designed fine mesh screen close up the entrance to the hive. A night or early in the morning an hour or two before the sun comes up and before a lot of flight starts. You'll loose a few dozen bees at most. If the trip includes bumpy roads you might want to use 2-4 crate nails (shaped in a "C") to hold the hive bodys and lid on tight. Don't drive them in too tight since you want to pull them out when you get to your destination. Buy these at you local hardware store. The other option is strap the hive together. Put the hive in the back of a pickup (if you can get a pickup) and secure it so it doesn't slide around. Use common sense. Bring your gloves, veil, hive tool, smoker, etc... When you get to the site, place the hive on a sturdy foundation, remove any tempory straps or nails and then remove the screen from the front of the hive. The next day or two put the supers back on. Good luck, have fun! Article 8968 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!News1.Ottawa.iSTAR.net!News1.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!news1.istar.ca!not-for-mail From: billfern@istar.ca (bill fernihough) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Weak Queen - Kill or keep Date: 14 Jul 1997 04:09:35 GMT Organization: Your Organization Lines: 4 Message-ID: <5qc8pv$6k9$2@news.istar.ca> References: <33C92B98.74AA@ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts12-12.vcr.istar.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (x86 32bit) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:8968 Are you sure you don't have a disease problem, like mites or foul brood? Bees often will stay away from infected foul brood comb. Are you using new comb, foundation, or an old hive? Article 9001 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bu.edu!news.eecs.umich.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!baron.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!knife.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!not-for-mail From: Morley Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bumble Bees Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 22:32:00 -0851 Organization: None. (via NETCOM Internet Ltd. USENET service). Lines: 20 Message-ID: <32CE0580.46ED@itl.net> References: <33CD178D.7FEED289@oz.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ap204-12.itl.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9001 Ted Thetford wrote: > > While working in the yard I observed bumble bees entering and exiting a > nickel size hole in the ground under a maple tree next to the house. > The house is newly built and the area has never been disturbed. I am > unfamiliar with bumble bee aggressiveness and culture. How many are in > a hive? With a one year old playing in the backyard I am afraid she > might start > put sticks or even her finger down the hole. Would it be best to get a > can of the bee killing stuff to eliminate the problem. > > - Concerned How about putting a small fence round the tree that a little hand can't go through? My children (3 of them) have grown up with some simple rules with regard to our hive in the back garden for over 15 years. Don't go close to it, watch the bees on plants but don't bother them, don't walk on the lawn in clover in bare feet. If everyone uses a can to kill bees, pretty soon, nobody will have a back yard with even a maple tree in it. Morley Article 9002 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Weights of different sizes of supers Date: 17 Jul 1997 03:22:25 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 7 Message-ID: <01bc9260$33096260$5ec192cf@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.193.94 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9002 Can anyone give the approximate weight of the honey in a deep hive body, a Illinois (medium depth super) and a shallow? I'm trying to estimate the quantity of honey on my hives currently and don't have a "rule of thumb" to go by. Thanks Steve Davison Article 9003 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Pete Wolcott Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bumble Bees Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 20:24:20 -0700 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 24 Message-ID: <33CD9064.CEE@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> References: <33CD178D.7FEED289@oz.net> Reply-To: PBJJJ@postoffice.worldnet.att.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.133.226 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-WorldNet (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9003 Ted Thetford wrote: > > While working in the yard I observed bumble bees entering and exiting a > nickel size hole in the ground under a maple tree next to the house. > The house is newly built and the area has never been disturbed. I am > unfamiliar with bumble bee aggressiveness and culture. How many are in > a hive? With a one year old playing in the backyard I am afraid she > might start > put sticks or even her finger down the hole. Would it be best to get a > can of the bee killing stuff to eliminate the problem. > > - Concerned Ted, The bumble bees we have here in Seattle are very mellow. I killed a nest of about 12 bees that was at the bottom of a fir tree that we where going to have sawed down. I still feel bad about it. They just let me spray them. Yellow jackets would have gotten even. I have some bumble bee nests now in my rock garden that only have a few bees. Our grandchildren like to watch them work the flowers in our yard. No stings. Pete Article 9004 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.enteract.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!News1.Ottawa.iSTAR.net!News4.Ottawa.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!news1.istar.ca!not-for-mail From: billfern@istar.ca (bill fernihough) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queen excluders, can they be too small? Date: 17 Jul 1997 03:31:12 GMT Organization: Your Organization Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5qk3m0$1c3$1@news.istar.ca> References: <33BBAE0C.41C6@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu> <33cce5a7.17603737@news.wn.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts28-06.vcr.istar.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (x86 32bit) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9004 one of the most common errors made by new beekeepers is to put foundation above a queen excluder. They simply won't go to it, they see the two, foundation and excuder as a double barrier, and just refuse it. You made a good move to put some bait frames above, but in a weaker hive, you might have found those frames abandoned, and lost the brood. This issue is quite simple, just put on the new super, no excluder, and when the bees have got used toworking it, put in the excluder, If you happen to trap the queen above the excuder, just find her and move that frame below. If you did get some brood in this super, when it is hatched in three weeks, the cells will be filled with honey. Not an issue. Next year, you will have drawn comb, and you can put that above an excluder, no problem. I made this same error, and the hive swarmed. Local bee masters straightened me out. Article 9005 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!demos!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!emphasys.demon.co.uk!alyn From: "Alyn W. Ashworth" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queen excluders, can they be too small? Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 09:39:15 +0100 Organization: Emphasys Computer Consultants Ltd. Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <33BBAE0C.41C6@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: emphasys.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: emphasys.demon.co.uk [158.152.242.226] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 3.03a Lines: 26 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9005 In article <33BBAE0C.41C6@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu>, Randy Nessler writes >I installed supers on three hives on June 12, with a queen excluder >between the super and the brood chamber. Last night I opened the hives >for a look, and there was no activity in the supers (no comb being >drawn, and very few bees present in the super). These are first year >hives, so I guess they might not be ready, though one hive has both deep >brood chambers in production. The bees are three banded Italians, and >I've never seen different sized openings offered for the queen excluder, >so I guess I just need to be patient? I've come to this thread a bit late in the day, but can I ask what type of excluders you are using? I have found that the bees are much more willing to move up through Herzog (wire) excluders, rather than zinc sheet excluders (and the short slot ones seem the worst). The general (non-scientifically acquired) wisdom locally seems to be that the wire excluders are easier for the bees to pass through because they don't have all the sharp edges, and that they do less damage to the wings as the bees pass through. The only criticisam is that the slots are more easily enlarged by rough handling. -- Alyn W. Ashworth Lancashire & North-West Bee-Keepers' Association. UK. (but I don't speak on their bee-half) http://www.demon.co.uk/emphasys Article 9006 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.bu.edu!ppp-81-21.bu.edu!user From: iraseski@xensei.com (Ira Seskin) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: I give up ( kidding) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 20:31:02 -0500 Organization: ira_seskin@bmugbos.org Lines: 78 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-81-21.bu.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9006 Well for those who have read my past posts as a Newbee.... After the first swarm, and recapture, they left again.... caught again in a Nuc. There were... three ripe queens left in the original hive, at which all my bee " gurus" including the State Bee Inspector ( who is real friendly and lives real close).. well they all said wait, and the strong emerging Q will kill the others, and start populating the hive again. Well... that was not the case. Another swarm took place a few days after the expected Q hatching day. That one topped off a neighbors apple tree. She was not pleased :-( Well I took a tall step ladder, and while the bees were resting for the night, tied a hive body with drawn comb to the top, rested it CAREFULLY against the swarm and poured honey into it. I hoped at first light they would move in, drawn by the honey. Well at first light ( 4:40 AM.. Im on my way to work) they had moved to the front of the hive bodyt, and there was activity inside. Well by the time I got home, no bees. And.. they sucked all that honey clean, so clean that I couldnt even get a finger print. No sticky at all! That having failed.... I decided to move the nuc bees, into a better home, and combine the two weak hives in the fall after things had stabilized... I figured that before I left for my vacation the bees ( I have permission) would go to my bee teachers house ( several miles away) and after I got back, they could be dumped into the original hive, using" newspaper" method, and after killing off the weaker of the two queens. Moved the Nuc bees this evening.. and placed a hive body, the nuc frames, and good drawn frames into it. Hive enterence is exctly same height and location as the nuc one. So far.. the bees SEEM happy.. and the best part is, that in the nuc... was wonderful new comb with incredible honey :-) Now I understand why Winnie the Pooh is addicted to hive honey! There was no sign of Q in the nuc, and NO eggs ! They just filled the spaces between the frames with new comb and honey... it was my first taste of ' my" honey from my bees...well actually... they're not my bees, they just live in my yard... for now... and ALLOW me to take care of them.... for now.... Stay tuned.. we'll see if they are still there in a few days.... -I- -I- -- /| __ / | ,-~ / Y :| // / | jj /( .^ >-"~"-v" /^ ^ Y /o o | ( ~T~ j >._-' _./ I'm / "~" | Having A Bad Y _, | HARE /| ;-"~ _ l Day / l/ ,-"~ \ \//\/ .- \ Y / Y > ) l I ! > ]\ _\ /"\ (" ~----( ~ Y. ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ->Bugs the Wonder Bunny<- ira_seskin@bmugbos.org (e- mail only... no attachments) iraseski@xensei.com (e-mail when sending attachements) http://www.xensei.com/users/iraseski "Live Free or Die" Article 9008 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!144.212.100.12!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!mindspring!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: jcmurray@mindspring.com (Jonathan C. Murray) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Is this a HONEYBEE? Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:02:46 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5qm1j7$spv@camel4.mindspring.com> References: <33C97BB9.C9AD4F8E@calwest.net> Reply-To: jcmurray@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: user-2k7i8so.dialup.mindspring.com X-Server-Date: 17 Jul 1997 21:07:51 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9008 THAT IS NOT A HONEYBEE. If you disagree, please E-Mail me why. Unless this was taken just after 3 mile island. Andy Nachbaur wrote: >Check out this page and judge for yourself: >http://www.barn9.com/cgi-bin/gallery/mgeorge/honey >Is it a honey bee with deformed front legs? Article 9009 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!ais.net!news.ais.net!not-for-mail From: Marty Kenny Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Help for native African bees. Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 07:31:24 -0500 Organization: Chicago Cybernetics, Inc Lines: 37 Message-ID: <33CE109B.6BB9@ais.net> Reply-To: ccimart.drop@ais.net NNTP-Posting-Host: dyn-tc01-135.chi.ais.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) CC: ccimart@ais.net Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9009 My brother lives in Africa and keeps bees. He lives on a short phone budget so I'm doing his searching. A few days ago I got the following request. Can any one help? Perhaps TOM of El Cajon himself will see this or Thomas of Fay-aux-loges will see it. You can respond to me or to Joe. Use the addresses below. Thanks. Marty Kenny Date: 11 Jul 1997 11:04:30 +0100 From: ibpriory@infoweb.abs.net To: ccimart@ais.net CCIMART@AIS.NET 10 July 1997 Dear Marty, Dorothy & all, I got your email of 8 July, and the first thing that comes to mind are the "furnaces in heaven". I think heaven will be like Nigeria, where you do not need furnaces to keep warm. ... On another note, would you please go wandering in your Internet for me and look for bees. Under that look for TOM INDUSTRIES, El Cajon CA, who advertize "foundation rollers" for tropical African "apis mellifera"; dimensions of cells must be 3mm on the side and 5mm across, exactly; see their specs and prices. Also look for ETS THOMAS FILS SA, 65 rue Abbi Georges Thomas, Fay-aux-Loges, France, for "extractor for combs from top- bar hives", which are not on full frame; again get specs and price. Best wishes and prayers, Joseph OP Article 9010 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.enteract.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!feed1.news.erols.com!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!woodbridge-rd.demon.co.uk!dave From: Dave Black Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Developing Beekeeping Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:00:30 +0100 Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: woodbridge-rd.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: woodbridge-rd.demon.co.uk [194.222.228.123] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a Lines: 8 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9010 Those of you with an interest in Beekeeping around the world and in supporting sustainable beekeeping, especially in developing countries, may like to visit Bees for Development's new site. Point your browser to -- Dave Black http://www.guildford.ac.uk/beehive Weekdays: Article 9011 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!news From: vermillo@unity.ncsu.edu (David Lee Vermillion) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Apistan Failure Reported Date: 17 Jul 1997 14:29:27 GMT Organization: North Carolina State University Lines: 46 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5qla87$b1i@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> References: <9707160718532234@beenet.com> Reply-To: vermillo@eos.ncsu.edu (David Lee Vermillion) NNTP-Posting-Host: c13106-144wl.bae.ncsu.edu X-Newsreader: mxrn 6.18-30 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9011 In article <9707160718532234@beenet.com>, andy.nachbaur@beenet.com (Andy Nachbaur) writes: > > FYI* Found in the BEE-List mail. > ---------------------------------------- > From: Faith Andrews Bedford > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:25:04 -0400 > Subject: Re: Apistan > > Trial solution: Take a hacksaw blade, draw it across the surface of > the strips and reinsert them in the hive. > This solution seemed to do the trick for, when ether rolls were done > after reinsertion of these "rasped" strips the mite count was way down > quite quickly. > Good to know...thanks for this tip. > Anyone else had similar problems. I'm presently bee-less in Fla. > since I commute to Virginia to take care of my bees there (a true "migratory" > beekeeper!). I am also discovering what an amazine difference Florida > beekeeping is from the way we Yankees do it. ^^^^^^^ For the world wide audience that tunes in to this group, Faith Bedford may be a Yankee, but Ivy Virginia, which is in my home county, is not Yankeeland...my ancestors put lots of Yankees in their graves. I apologize for the rant, but try calling an Irishman English and see what happens... > Faith Andrews Bedford, Beekeeper, Tampa FL and Ivy VA > --- > -- David Vermillion =================================================== = Biological and Agricultural Engineering = = Box 7625, Weaver Laboratories = = North Carolina State University = = Raleigh, NC 27695-7625 = Article 9012 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!128.255.40.11!news.uiowa.edu!not-for-mail From: Randy Nessler Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queen excluders, can they be too small? Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 08:40:08 -0500 Organization: The University of Iowa Lines: 25 Message-ID: <33CE20B8.41C6@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu> References: <33BBAE0C.41C6@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: tessa.iaf.uiowa.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01SC-SGI (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9012 Alyn W. Ashworth wrote: > > In article <33BBAE0C.41C6@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu>, Randy Nessler > writes > >I installed supers on three hives on June 12, with a queen excluder > >between the super and the brood chamber. Last night I opened the hives > >for a look, and there was no activity in the supers (no comb being > >drawn, and very few bees present in the super). These are first year > >hives, so I guess they might not be ready, though one hive has both deep > >brood chambers in production. The bees are three banded Italians, and > >I've never seen different sized openings offered for the queen excluder, > >so I guess I just need to be patient? > > I've come to this thread a bit late in the day, but can I ask what type > of excluders you are using? > -- > Alyn W. Ashworth Alyn and Others who have responded, I took the excluders off. They were wood framed wire excluders. The bees immediately started working the new foundations. I even placed a second super on my strongest hive. It's time to get the excluders back on now, add it to my list of things to do.... -- Randy Nessler rnessler@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu Views expressed are my own. Article 9013 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!newsin.iconnet.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!globalcenter0!news.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!howland.erols.net!gatech!firehose.mindspring.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: jcmurray@mindspring.com (Jonathan C. Murray) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Death to my hive Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 20:56:01 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5qm16i$spv@camel4.mindspring.com> Reply-To: jcmurray@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: user-2k7i8so.dialup.mindspring.com X-Server-Date: 17 Jul 1997 21:01:06 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9013 Hello. I'm new to this newsgroup. I'm 15, and Live in Georgia, USA. This is my second year beekeeping. I started with 2 hives in this spring. One went queenless through the winter and barely any bees survived. The other hive was weak due to starvation. I combined the hives and replaced the queen. I have always medicated properly. Now the combined hive is in 1 brood chamber, and doing poorly. There is an excellent brood production, but no visible nectar or pollen coming into the hive. With no honey in the hive I began to feed sugar/water syrup to try and get them jump started. I've been constanty riding the hive of wax moths. I have replaced the damaged comb with already drawn comb. There is no new wax beiung produced. Someone Please help Me!!! Thanks. Article 9014 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!newsin.iconnet.net!world6.bellatlantic.net!news From: jamers Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Honey Press Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 19:12:21 -0400 Organization: Bell Atlantic Internet Solutions Lines: 2 Message-ID: <33CEA6D5.678@bellatlantic.net> Reply-To: jamers@bellatlantic.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 20715980198.bellatlantic.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9014 Does anyone know where I would find plans for building a honey press? Any info would greatly apreciated. Thanks Rick Article 9015 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!zdc-e!super.zippo.com!plnews!zippo!drn From: Lee Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: For Sale: Pierce Uncapping Knife $35.00 inc shipping Date: 17 Jul 1997 13:20:09 -0700 Organization: None Lines: 3 Message-ID: <5qlupp$jhc@drn.zippo.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9015 Fopr Sale Pierce Manufacturing Electric uncapping Knife model II 120-v 675 watt... $35.00 inc shipping US.. Lee Email: jcs4us@cosmoaccess.net Article 9016 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!news.eecs.umich.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk!Clayton From: Clayton Smith Newsgroups: alt.non.sequitur,alt.tv.simpsons,alt.tv.simpsons.itchy-scratchy,soc.culture.mexican,soc.culture.mexican.american,soc.culture.spain,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.music.korn,alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.fan.ok-soda,alt.genius.bill-palmer Subject: Re: What bumblebee are we talking about? Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 18:29:41 +0100 Organization: Load Distribution: world Message-ID: <3TCHXNAFUQzzIwzy@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> References: <5ocjt2$24e@news.enter.net> <33c2d5aa.11853803@news.enter.net> <1KuXRKBDHpuzIwre@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk [194.222.221.91] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <5KoCwp8X5vsH4kTvzYrR2js3bn> Lines: 23 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu alt.non.sequitur:17213 alt.tv.simpsons:177390 alt.tv.simpsons.itchy-scratchy:3910 soc.culture.mexican:83199 soc.culture.mexican.american:26429 soc.culture.spain:153752 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9016 alt.music.korn:1771 alt.fan.karl-malden.nose:71712 alt.fan.ok-soda:3803 In article , "Phil D.Long" writes >In article , Clair > writes >>You do! I'm from England! You get BBC, ITV, C4 & C5 >>-- >>Clair > >You can hardly count channel 5! That' leaves us with 4...and it's >summer meaning 1, 2 and ITV are sport and C4 is the same as always...old >shit films and Father Ted Reruns(admittadly the show is very good, but >that's all there is!) Not only that, but I don't even get c5 anyway. -- Clayton Smith Clayton@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk Encore on IRC - Find Me On: #mirc_lounge #korn (if I'm not banned!) #sepultura and sometimes #chat Sick Of The Same Old Things... Article 9018 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!hermes.louisville.edu!not-for-mail From: caw@SPAM@bcc.louisville.edu Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: How to start??? Date: 17 Jul 1997 19:29:10 GMT Organization: University of Louisville Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5qlrq6$rqv$3@hermes.louisville.edu> References: <5q685e$qej$1@hermes.louisville.edu> <33c79339.9131662@nntp.a001.sprintmail.com> Reply-To: caw@SPAM@bcc.louisville.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: flowman.bcc.louisville.edu X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 2.0 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9018 In <33c79339.9131662@nntp.a001.sprintmail.com>, hbowles@sprintmail.com (Howard Bowles) writes: >Contact your local agricultural extension service. They should be >able to help you, if not them specifically, they should be able to >tell you who to contact. > >Howard > > my original message snipped. Howard, Thanks, I'll do that... Article 9019 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!204.238.120.130!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 18:22:39 -0600 From: caesar@bdg.centrin.net.id Subject: bee venom Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Message-ID: <869161874.23861@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Jul 17 17:51:14 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 202.146.253.212 () X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.0; Windows 3.1) X-Authenticated-Sender: caesar@bdg.centrin.net.id Lines: 19 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9019 Recently I posted messages about bee venom collector I have already got responds from: -Ron Miksha. -Malcom T.Sanford. -Michael Simicss. -Mark & Jeanie. -Mike White. -Paul Cronshaw. The information are very usefull for me to start learning about collecting venom from bees. I like to thank to all people above. I am still looking for information about voltage and pulsating frequency for bee venom collector. D.Prijatna. -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet Article 9020 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsm.ibm.net!ibm.net!zdc-e!super.zippo.com!plnews!zippo!drn From: Lee Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: For Sale: Pierce Uncapping Knife $35.00 inc shipping Date: 17 Jul 1997 13:21:04 -0700 Organization: None Lines: 3 Message-ID: <5qlurg$jpj@drn.zippo.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9020 Fopr Sale Pierce Manufacturing Electric uncapping Knife model II 120-v 675 watt... $35.00 inc shipping US.. Lee Email: jcs4us@cosmoaccess.net Article 9021 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!europa.clark.net!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: stevedorer@aol.com (StevedoreR) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: inactive 3# package of Starlines Date: 18 Jul 1997 17:02:29 GMT Lines: 62 Message-ID: <19970718170201.NAA29782@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <01bc5d9f$ca39cc60$516ed9ce@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9021 In article <01bc5d9f$ca39cc60$516ed9ce@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com>, "Jack Griffes" writes: >Subject: Re: inactive 3# package of Starlines >From: "Jack Griffes" >Date: 11 May 1997 00:10:45 GMT > > >StevedoreR wrote in article ><19970510224201.SAA19635@ladder01.news.aol.com>... >> I recently installed a 3# package of Starlines in a row of other newly >> installed 2# Italian packages (same day), but the Italians don't fly >> around as much. I though that Starlines are the best honey producers. >> Also, in the time it took the Starlines to eat an inch off their 5# jar >of >> 2:1 medicated sugar syrup, 3 of the 11 Italians had emptied theirs. The >> hive is queenright, and has capped brood. Does anyone know why they're >so >> inactive? >> >> Thanks, >> Steve >> > >Howdy Steve, > >When you buy package bees only the queen's strain type is specified. The >bees in the package could be from a completely different race or stock >type. So you can't judge them until the queen's progeny has pretty much >replaced the bees from the package. > > >-- >Jack Griffes >Country Jack's Honeybee Farm >Honeybee Improvement Program >Horseshoeing by Jack Griffes >Ottawa Lake, MI 49267 >USA >Web site http://www2.netcom.com/~griffes/ >Much thanks to the person much more clever than myself that suggested the >following spam defeating method of listing my e-mail address. >e-mail: Griffes at ix dot netcom dot com > > Thanks Jack, Now that we are later into the year, the Starlines are doing much better than the Italian hive, which is one hive closer to the center of the row than the Starlines. Must be all the time they were in the box instead of flying around wasting energy when there was no flow, they were making comb. They got their first shallow yesterday, with the honey coated comb already in it, because we bought it used. They still had about three frames to draw and fill, but we moved them toward the center, making sure not to break up the brood pattern. I'm pretty happy about this because I thought it was looking like the extra $20 for 3# of Starlines instead of 2# of Italians or Midnites was a waste. Stephen Article 9022 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!gatech!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!news.inet.tele.dk!not-for-mail From: "Jørn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Hivenote software New edition Date: 18 Jul 1997 09:35:16 GMT Organization: EDBi Lines: 63 Message-ID: <01bc935d$95142be0$0ea1efc2@jornjoha> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp14.rd.tele.dk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1157 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9022 Multilangual software now in new edition! The Bidata software is meant for practical beekeeping and is traded by EDBi, which is a foundation of EDB interested beekeepers with a wish of handling their beekeeping data on a computer. EDBi was founded 1986 with the purpose of developing a practical hivenote software suitable for the Danish beekeeping. To serve this purpose I have been programming a software package for the last 9 years. In the meantime the platform has changed from pure DOS to windows so I have stopped the developing of a DOS based software and is concentrating developing to windows 3.1+ and win95/NT. The concept for the 'Bidata' is put up by input from practical beekeepers and the national Danish Beekeeper Foundation (DBF). It gives some freedom to the beekeeper but will also limited the data input into a necessary amount with the purpose of standardisation of data, making it possible for beekeepers to cooperage in the effort of making the queens as productive as possible. The function of the programme is based on notes taken in the bee yard and transferred into the programme. When data have been entered, you will be able to calculate an Index on the queens, making it easy to compare the queens within a bee yard. You will also be able to compare queen sisters, and all together you will get a tool to help you to judge and select the queens, you want to go on with in your beekeeping. To make it easy to compare data, there is a graphical function build in where you e.g. Is able to see the honey harvest in pillar representation and also see it in 3D. This graphical screen can be copied to the clipboard and transferred in to a document like you see here : Picture omitted. The data you judge from is the following : Honey harvest aggressively swarm tendency steadiness sickness and you enter the data into a spreadsheet like window : Picture Omitted. the cheapest way to get the software is to download it from my homepage http://home4.inet.tele.dk/apimo/download.htm. There you can get the software you want. The software you are getting is a Three month demo and can be registered by paying the register fee to EDBi. The instructions to this you will find in the program. EDBi = Beekeeping software for Windows 3.1/win95 e-mail apimo@post4.tele.dk edbi homepage http://home4.inet.tele.dk/apimo/edbi.htm Ken Morris Homepage http://www.wn.com.au/gol/members/kenm/index.htm Hivenote software win95 ftp://ftp.wn.com.au/bidata/win95pg/bidatawin95inst.exe Hivenote software win31 ftp://ftp.wn.com.au/bidata/win31pg/bidat31.exe bolonging databasekit ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/science/agriculture/beenet/databas1.zip best regards Jorn Article 9023 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!europa.clark.net!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!newstf02.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: martin4269@aol.com (Martin4269) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Malathion spraying for Medfly in FL Date: 18 Jul 1997 17:28:29 GMT Lines: 16 Message-ID: <19970718172801.NAA09164@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <33C71172.4EE84C94@magicnet.net> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9023 To give a little more information on the Malathion spraying. The state is running four DC-3 and three helicopters. Plus some ground sparying as well. Running days and nights. Over two county's, last time I heard a number it was 300 sq miles.. Their are using a liquid form that has a bait in it. When people ask about the heath effects of Malathion the "pure grade" effects are stated when they are using the "commerical grade" which is more toxic. After a couple of weeks of people complaining, and finding MAlthion in the river that supplies the drinking water. The EPA did widen the buffer around bodies of water. In an attempt to stop the planes from sparying in the water. The state is modeling their program after the Califonia so I've been told. I think that you can see the trust that has been built up between the state and the resisdents. There was been many people stating question of what is going to pollinate the cirus flower when the spaying is down. It's like a nine week program. So far one person said the bees will be fine and another stated this can wipe out colonizes. I don't know what to make of it. Article 9024 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!infeed2.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news-peer!btnet-feed1!BTInternet!usenet From: "Paul Bowden" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Granulated honey Date: 18 Jul 1997 10:04:53 GMT Organization: BT Internet Lines: 14 Message-ID: <01bc9347$8cbba4c0$LocalHost@dtorvtwg> NNTP-Posting-Host: host5-99-54-218.btinternet.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9024 I am a newish beekeeper (and even newer Internet user!), keeping 5 colonies in British National hives in my garden in a village in the East Midlands. The principal local early honey source is oilseed rape. Because of foul weather (nearly four weeks of steady rain and low temperatures) just after the bees had worked this, I was unable to take this honey off and it has now granulated - I have 2-3 supers of granulated honey in each hive. I would like to know what to do with this: if it is left, can the bees make any use of it or should it be removed and....? Any advice very welcome. Thank you Paul Bowden Article 9025 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!newsin.iconnet.net!news.inc.net!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!gatech!arachnid.Gsu.EDU!panther.Gsu.EDU!biojdsx From: James D Satterfield Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Honey Press and TBH Website Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 14:41:48 -0400 Organization: Georgia State University Lines: 35 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.96.1.18 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: biojdsx Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9025 I continue to revise the tbh website at: http://www.gsu.edu/~biojdsx/main.htm An addition I made today to the home page was to establish a link to pages on constructing and using a honey press. That page includes seven photos. It takes 3.5 minutes at 14.4 for the page to load, but I think you'll find it worth it if you're considering pressing honey. I have rescanned almost all of the photos on the pages, improved the quality, and reduced the files sizes to around 20K. There may be specific photos where individuals would like to have more detail. It that turns out to be the case, I can rescan the photos and put a link to the larger files. Hope your beekeeping is going well for you wherever you may be on this wonderful planet of ours... I'd much rather be here than on Mars. :) Cordially yours, Jim ---------------------------------------------------------------- | James D. Satterfield | E-Mail: jsatt@gsu.edu | | 258 Ridge Pine Drive --------------------------------| | Canton, GA 30114, USA Canton is about 40 mi/64 km | | Telephone (770) 479-4784 north of Altanta, Georgia USA | | | | TBH Beekeeping Website: http://www.gsu.edu/~biojdsx/main.htm | ---------------------------------------------------------------- Article 9026 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: kenm@wn.com.au (Ken Morris) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Moving a hive Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 14:48:44 GMT Organization: Hillgrove Farm Honey Reply-To: kenm@wn.com.au Message-ID: <33cf8106.26123044@news.wn.com.au> References: <33BE5A61.5B62@sprintmail.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp30.wn.com.au Lines: 38 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!gatech!howland.erols.net!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!dnaco.net!news5.digex.net!news.kcdata.com!dhcp30.wn.com.au Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9026 On Sat, 05 Jul 1997 07:29:53 -0700, Howard Bowles wrote: >I have recently been able to hive a swarm...I estimate about 5lbs of >bees. The swarm has built up one and is currently finishing the 7th >frame in a second deep super. They appear to be very productive but at >the same time they are considerably more agressive than my other hives >at this site. Because of their industrious nature I do not want to >re-queen yet am concerned about their penchant to chase anyone who comes >close to the hive. I live in a residential area where beekeeping is >permitted but do not wish to push my luck. >I live in the Tacoma, WA area and the weather this year has been at >best, unpredictable and I am not sure when and how would be the best to >move them. I have identified a location for them and the owner is >anxious to have a hive on her property. I estimate about 1 hour to >secure the hive, load it, then move it to its new location. >Does anyone have suggestions on how to move this cantankerous hive? > >Thanks, > >HBowles Hello Howard, I would just put on my best protective gear, and about sunset when all the foragers are back from work, strap the hive to ensure it doesn't come apart enroute, put it in my vehicle and go. If you arrive at your destination after dark, DO NOT shine any bright lights around the hive as this really seems to make the bees furious, place them on their new site with as little jarring as posssible, and there you go! Hope this helps. good luck! Regards, Ken Morris Hillgrove Farm Honey, Batavia Coast, Western Australia Telephone (618 outside Aust) (08 in Aust) 9926 1087 http://www.wn.com.au/gol/members/kenm/index.htm Australia/New Zealand Dist.BiData Beekeeping Software Article 9027 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.radio.cz!europa.clark.net!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!News1.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!news.globalserve.net!not-for-mail From: mike white Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bumble Bees Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 19:55:15 -0700 Organization: Globalserve Communications Inc. Lines: 12 Message-ID: <33D02C93.629F@globalserve.net> References: <33CD178D.7FEED289@oz.net> <32CE0580.46ED@itl.net> Reply-To: mwhite@globalserve.net NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin2001.globalserve.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9027 Ted, I agree with Pete and Morley. Bumble bees are not aggressive. We have several nests at our house and they are not a threat. Although the number of bumble bees per nest varies, you should know that they rent space in old chipmunk holes, snake holes, hollow limbs and trees. They do not construct their own place and may not keep the same nest site the following year. Placing a little fence around the nest site or simply training your child to avoid that area would be a good idea. Like all bees - leave a bee be and she will be off. Good luck. Mike -- White House Greetings from Mike and Luci Article 9028 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!EU.net!Norway.EU.net!online.no!not-for-mail From: "Tommy Jensen" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: FAQ...? Date: 19 Jul 1997 12:44:14 GMT Organization: Telenor Online Public Access Lines: 14 Message-ID: <01bc9442$80bf3be0$52a44382@8613gvd30934> NNTP-Posting-Host: ti32a01-0018.dialup.online.no X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9028 Hi! Is there a FAQ for this NG? I just got here. Thought I'd browse through the FAQ 'before' asking questions...Kinda smart aren't I ;-) -- Tommy Jensen tommjens@online.no http://home.sol.no/tommjens Nolite te bastardes carborundorum Article 9029 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!ais.net!nntp.sprintmail.com!nntp.sprintmail.com!news@sprintmail.com From: hbowles@sprintmail.com (Howard Bowles) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Moving hive Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 15:25:43 GMT Lines: 8 Message-ID: <33d0dbe1.39737011@nntp.a001.sprintmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sdn-ts-006watacop12.dialsprint.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9029 Thanks to all who responded to my request for information on moving a hive. I successfully moved them and had a what I considered to be an acceptable number of casualties. A 4 days later the bees were really active and did not appear distressed. Thanks again, Howard Article 9030 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!chi-news.cic.net!news.bright.net!news From: "John C. Bongiovanni" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Washboarding? Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 18:06:41 -0400 Organization: BrightNet Ohio Lines: 6 Message-ID: <33D13A71.238A@bright.net> Reply-To: jbongi@bright.net NNTP-Posting-Host: medi-cas1-cs-40.dial.bright.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9030 I have ony hive where several hundred bees spend their time more or less in place at the hive entrance but moving slowly back and forth about half a bee-length. Called "washboarding" in my 1948 and in my 199? copies of "ABC and XYZ of Bee Culture" there apparently isn't (wasn't) any explaination. Do any of you cyb-apiarists have a theory, explaination, or whatever? Article 9031 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Weight of various size supers Date: 19 Jul 1997 23:46:39 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 7 Message-ID: <01bc949d$8eeffc80$b3a392cf@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.163.179 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9031 Can any one give me an approximate weight of honey that would be stored in a 1) deep super 2) medium depth (Illinois super) and 3) a shallow super? I've looked in several of the beekeeping reference books I have, but find no indication. Thanks for the help! Steve Davison Article 9032 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!198.207.169.10!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wildbee!andy.nachbaur From: andy.nachbaur@beenet.com (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: bad honey (repost by request) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 02:55:00 GMT Message-ID: <9707191804182247@beenet.com> Organization: WILD BEE'S BBS (209) 826-8107 LOS BANOS, CA Distribution: world References: <19970616034001.XAA01174@ladder02.news.aol.com> <9706110716301953@beenet.com> Lines: 162 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9032 "MAD" HONEY DISEASE I bet some of you thought you have seen or heard it all, not true, if you don't know about the "grayanotoxin" and "mad" honey disease or Honey Intoxication caused by consuming honey produced from some of the most beautiful flower's in the west and other places belonging to the rhododendron family. It is only fair to point out that most of these plants do not produce or seldom produce much surplus honey that can be extracted or are they now or have they ever been even a minor health risk in the US. But occasionally someone does find enough of the pure stuff to eat and become sick. It is also believed, and from my own personal experience with the western wild azalea, that the nectar from these plants may also be toxic to the bees themselves and cause occasional unexplained loss of field bees in the areas they can be found blooming. And yes, I know beekeepers who have tasted the raw honey from the comb and did live to tell about it as you would expect as we beekeepers can't resist digging into a freshly uncapped frame for a taste of that strange new honey. Just about all of us at one time or another had to spit cotton balls or risk missing a meal because of a sneak taste of raw honey. If not your day is coming sooner or later. I know when I was a beekeeper's louse, the head beekeeper would catch me digging into a comb for a taste and warn me not to eat that raw honey. I thought "what a cheep boss, he won't let me stick my fingers in that nice new honey comb", but my day came more then once when he was not watching and I got into some green honey and shortly after had gut wrenching cramps, but I learned, a little slow, but I learned. What the Guys from the government say: U S Food & Drug Administration Center for Food Safety & Applied Nutrition Food borne Pathogenic Microorganisms and Natural Toxins 1992 (Bad Bug Book) 1. Name of Toxin: Grayanotoxin (formerly known as andromedotoxin, acetylandromedol, and rhodotoxin) 2. Name of Acute Disease: Honey Intoxication Honey intoxication is caused by the consumption of honey produced from the nectar of rhododendrons. The grayanotoxins cause the intoxication. The specific grayanotoxins vary with the plant species. These compounds are diterpenes, polyhydroxylated cyclic hydrocarbons that do not contain nitrogen. Other names associated with the disease is rhododendron poisoning, mad honey intoxication or grayanotoxin poisoning. 3. Nature of Disease: The intoxication is rarely fatal and generally lasts for no more than 24 hours. Generally the disease induces dizziness, weakness, excessive perspiration, nausea, and vomiting shortly after the toxic honey is ingested. Other symptoms that can occur are low blood pressure or shock, bradyarrhythima (slowness of the heart beat associated with an irregularity in the heart rhythm), sinus bradycardia (a slow sinus rhythm, with a heart rate less than 60), nodal rhythm (pertaining to a node, particularly the atrioventricular node), Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome (anomalous atrioventricular excitation) and complete atrioventricular block. 4. Normal Course of the Disease: The grayanotoxins bind to sodium channels in cell membranes. The binding unit is the group II receptor site, localized on a region of the sodium channel that is involved in the voltage-dependent activation and inactivation. These compounds prevent inactivation; thus, excitable cells (nerve and muscle) are maintained in a state of depolarization, during which entry of calcium into the cells may be facilitated. This action is similar to that exerted by the alkaloids of veratrum and aconite. All of the observed responses of skeletal and heart muscles, nerves, and the central nervous system are related to the membrane effects. Because the intoxication is rarely fatal and recovery generally occurs within 24 hours, intervention may not be required. Severe low blood pressure usually responds to the administration of fluids and correction of bradycardia; therapy with vasopressors (agents that stimulate contraction of the muscular tissue of the capillaries and arteries) is only rarely required. Sinus bradycardia and conduction defects usually respond to atropine therapy; however, in at least one instance the use of a temporary pacemaker was required. 5. Diagnosis of Human Illness: In humans, symptoms of poisoning occur after a dose-dependent latent period of a few minutes to two or more hours and include salivation, vomiting, and both circumoral (around or near the mouth) and extremity paresthesia (abnormal sensations). Pronounced low blood pressure and sinus bradycardia develop. In severe intoxication, loss of coordination and progressive muscular weakness result. Extrasystoles (a premature contraction of the heart that is independent of the normal rhythm and arises in response to an impulse in some part of the heart other than the sinoatrial node; called also premature beat) and ventricular tachycardia (an abnormally rapid ventricular rhythm with aberrant ventricular excitation, usually in excess of 150 per minute) with both atrioventricular and intraventricular conduction disturbances also may occur. Convulsions are reported occasionally. 6. Associated Foods: Grayanotoxin poisoning most commonly results from the ingestion of grayanotoxin-contaminated honey, although it may result from the ingestion of the leaves, flowers, and nectar of rhododendrons. Not all rhododendrons produce grayanotoxins. Rhododendron ponticum grows extensively on the mountains of the eastern Black Sea area of Turkey. This species has been associated with honey poisoning since 401 BC. A number of toxin species are native to the United States. Of particular importance are the western azalea (Rhododendron occidentale) found from Oregon to southern California, the California rosebay (Rhododendron macrophyllum) found from British Columbia to central California, and Rhododendron albiflorum found from British Columbia to Oregon and in Colorado. In the eastern half of the United States grayanotoxin-contaminated honey may be derived from other members of the botanical family Ericaceae, to which rhododendrons belong. Mountain laurel (Kalmia latifolia) and sheep laurel (Kalmia angustifolia) are probably the most important sources of the toxin. 7. Relative Frequency of Disease: Grayanotoxin poisoning in humans is rare. However, cases of honey intoxication should be anticipated everywhere. Some may be ascribed to a increase consumption of imported honey. Others may result from the ingestion of unprocessed honey with the increased desire of natural foods in the American diet. 8. Target Population: All people are believed to be susceptible to honey intoxication. The increased desire of the American public for natural (unprocessed) foods, may result in more cases of grayanotoxin poisoning. Individuals who obtain honey from farmers who may have only a few hives are at increased risk. The pooling of massive quantities of honey during commercial processing generally dilutes any toxic substance. 9. Analysis in Foods: The grayanotoxins can be isolated from the suspect commodity by typical extraction procedures for naturally occurring terpenes. The toxins are identified by thin layer chromatography. 10. History of Recent Outbreaks: Several cases of grayanotoxin poisonings in humans have been documented in the 1980s. These reports come from Turkey and Austria. The Austrian case resulted from the consumption of honey that was brought back from a visit to Turkey. From 1984 to 1986, 16 patients were treated for honey intoxication in Turkey. The symptoms started approximately 1 h after 50 g of honey was consumed. In an average of 24 h, all of the patients recovered. The case in Austria resulted in cardiac arrhythmia, which required a temporal pacemaker to prevent further decrease in heart rate. After a few hours, pacemaker simulation was no longer needed. The Austrian case shows that with increased travel throughout the world, the risk of grayanotoxin poisoning is possible outside the areas of Ericaceae-dominated vegetation, namely, Turkey, Japan, Brazil, United States, Nepal, and British Columbia. In 1983 several British veterinarians reported a incident of grayanotoxin poisoning in goats. One of the four animals died. Post-mortem examination showed grayanotoxin in the rumen contents. (c) Permission is granted to freely copy this document in any form, or to print for any use. (w)Opinions are not necessarily facts. Use at own risk. --- þ QMPro 1.53 þ http://gears.tucson.ars.ag.gov/beecam/beecam.html Article 9033 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!198.207.169.10!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wildbee!andy.nachbaur From: andy.nachbaur@beenet.com (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Insecticide and bees Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 02:58:00 GMT Message-ID: <9707191804182248@beenet.com> Organization: WILD BEE'S BBS (209) 826-8107 LOS BANOS, CA Distribution: world References: <5o988m$bs7@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Lines: 35 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9033 FYI* Grad student looking for help with bees & pesticides research. >Approved-By: Rui Carlos Peruquetti >Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:43:35 -0300 >Reply-To: rcarlos@alunos.ufv.br >Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology >From: Rui Carlos Peruquetti >Organization: Universidade Federa de Vicosa - Minas Gerais - Brazil >Subject: Insecticide and bees >To: BEE-L@CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU > >Hi everyone, > > >Reginaldo Proque, a graduate student, is beginning a work on impact of >insecticide in beekeeping. So, he is need recent references about this >subject. > >If someone in the list can help him, please, send the reply to this to >apiario@mail.ufv.br. > > >Thanks. > > >-- >Rui Carlos Peruquetti > Universidade Federal de Vicosa > Departamento de Biologia Geral > 36571-000 - Vicosa - MG - Brazil > > --- þ QMPro 1.53 þ http://www.kuai.se/~beeman/ Article 9034 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!198.207.169.10!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wildbee!andy.nachbaur From: andy.nachbaur@beenet.com (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Apistan Failure Reported Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 03:08:00 GMT Message-ID: <9707191804182249@beenet.com> Organization: WILD BEE'S BBS (209) 826-8107 LOS BANOS, CA Distribution: world Lines: 48 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9034 *RETURNED and resent. FYI* Found in the BEE-List mail. ---------------------------------------- From: Faith Andrews Bedford Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:25:04 -0400 Subject: Re: Apistan Last night I was at the Tampa Bay Beekeepers association and heard some concerns about Apistant strips. No one could understand what was happening so I said I'd ask the beeline and see if anyone else had similar problems. Problem: Beekeepers are putting in Apistan strips and finding that they are not working. After three weeks in the hive, ether rolls are stil indicating high mite infestations. Observations: The strips that are being put in seem different, stiffer, a darker color, less flexible. Trial solution: Take a hacksaw blade, draw it across the surface of the strips and reinsert them in the hive. This solution seemed to do the trick for, when ether rolls were done after reinsertion of these "rasped" strips the mite count was way down quite quickly. Word is that people don't want to question the efficacy of the strips lest the EPA get word that someting is amiss. The thinking is that people "don't want to talk about" this problem. something like we might lose the only treatment we have for the mites if it is discovered to be ineffective. This sounds a tad paranoid but I pass it along as one more piece of the puzzle. Anyone else had similar problems. I'm presently bee-less in Fla. since I commute to Virginia to take care of my bees there (a true "migratory" beekeeper!). I am also discovering what an amazine difference Florida beekeeping is from the way we Yankees do it. How about a year round honey flow? How about needing to extract four or five times a year? How about honey with flavors from palm trees, mangroves, punk trees, Brazilian pepper (sound hot and spicy to me). Citrus, of course, is the big honey flow here and that I've heard of, but cabbage palm? Sounds like it would either make a good salad or be good on one. Thanks for your input on the Apistan strip question. I promised I'd pass all thoughts along to the membership. Faith Andrews Bedford, Beekeeper, Tampa FL and Ivy VA --- þ QMPro 1.53 þ It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a Article 9035 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!198.207.169.10!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wildbee!andy.nachbaur From: andy.nachbaur@beenet.com (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: June Honey Prices Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 01:28:00 GMT Message-ID: <9707191829152261@beenet.com> Organization: WILD BEE'S BBS (209) 826-8107 LOS BANOS, CA Distribution: world Lines: 46 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9035 June Swoon? 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Dakota Clover 68-93 white | | Florida Mixed 75-80 ex lt amber to amb | | Texas Tallow 64 light amber | | Minnesota Clover 80-88 white | | Nebraska Clover 68 white | | Indiana Wild 85 med amber | | IMPORTS East Coast | | Argentina Clover 66 1/5-70 white | | " Clover 66-66 1/2 light amber | | Argentina Gulf Ports del dock duty paid | | Mixed Flowers 77 1/2 white | | Mixed Flowers 71 light amber : | MEXICO Mixed Flo 66 light amber | | West Coast Argentina | | Mixed Flowers 83 (prev.contract) white | | Mexico Mixed Flo 65-68 " lt amber | | CHINA Acacia 88 " white | |____________________________________________________________| \ The market is lower as US new crop comes in with stiff / \ competition from imports. Crop prospects are spotty! / \------------------------------------------------------/ (c) Permission is granted to freely copy this document in any form, or to print for any use. (w)Opinions are not necessarily facts. Use at own risk. 71597 --- þþ "Where there is honey, there are beekeepers" --- þ QMPro 1.53 þ "Where there are fruits & nuts, there are beekeepers" Article 9036 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!vtaix.cc.vt.edu!adamf From: adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: FAQ...? Date: 20 Jul 1997 11:42:56 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5qstk0$86v$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <01bc9442$80bf3be0$52a44382@8613gvd30934> NNTP-Posting-Host: vtaix.cc.vt.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9036 In article <01bc9442$80bf3be0$52a44382@8613gvd30934>, Tommy Jensen wrote: >Hi! > >Is there a FAQ for this NG? I just got here. Thought I'd browse through the >FAQ 'before' asking questions...Kinda smart aren't I ;-) Yes there is a sci.agriculture.beekeeping faq, although it's really out of date-- go to http://sunsite.unc.edu/bees for it, other faqs and pointers as well. I'll update the faq when I can. Adam -- _________________ Adam Finkelstein adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu http://sunsite.unc.edu/bees/adamf Article 9037 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!mis2!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Master Beekeeper Date: 20 Jul 1997 15:35:56 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 8 Message-ID: <01bc9522$2b7beda0$62a392cf@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.163.98 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9037 I have seen this term used in the group and in various bee magazines. Can anyone answer a few questions regard that designation? How does one become a Master Beekeeper? Is it a state by state accreditation?(ie. are the requirements the same in NC as in IL or WA?) Is it earned OJT or in the classroom? These are just a few of my questions. Perhaps someone can point me to a reference on the subject. Thanks! Steve Davison Article 9038 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.bu.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!not-for-mail From: bill greenrose Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Washboarding? Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 12:02:28 -0400 Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Lines: 42 Message-ID: <33D23694.6AE6F7AC@valley.net> References: <33D13A71.238A@bright.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: v2-p-113.valley.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9038 John C. Bongiovanni wrote: > I have ony hive where several hundred bees spend their time more or > less > in place at the hive entrance but moving slowly back and forth about > half a bee-length. Called "washboarding" in my 1948 and in my 199? > copies of "ABC and XYZ of Bee Culture" there apparently isn't (wasn't) > > any explaination. Do any of you cyb-apiarists have a theory, > explaination, or whatever? greetings, the following are comments from a newbie and should be taken with a large grain of salt. are the bees fanning their wings as they move? if so, then they may be ventilating the hive, moving air in from the entrance to cool the inside of the hive. my bees do that on hot days, but they tend to line up in a row at the entrance, looking like fighter jets at an airfield, and fanning their wings in place. also, the guard bees are always patrolling the entrance, walking back and forth on the landing board, checking out every bee that lands and chasing flies, ants, bumble bees, etc. [really cool to watch] i suppose each colony develops its own, unique pattern for these activities, based on the local environment. finally, maybe the hive is overcrowded and/or too hot? i used to get a fairly large crowd of bees at the entrance, but since i added another deep box to the hive a few days ago, there is much less massing at the entrance. hope this helps, bill ######################################## don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player greenros@medicalmedia.com [work] bill.greenrose@valley.net [home] http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 Article 9039 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!viper.america.net!not-for-mail From: BILLY BRADSHAW Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: HONEY BEE LIFE CYCLE Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 14:22:26 -0400 Organization: ISP Alliance, Inc. Lines: 6 Message-ID: <33D25762.208D@stc.net> Reply-To: wmb@stc.net NNTP-Posting-Host: max5-12.stc.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9039 What is the life cycle of the worker bee, I requeened one of my three banded italian hives with a midnite queen.I would like to know when i can except to see midnite workers.I requeened the hive the first week in july. think you, Bill Article 9040 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!arachnid.Gsu.EDU!panther.Gsu.EDU!biojdsx From: James D Satterfield Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: TBH Beekeeping Website Update; Making Foundation Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 15:32:07 -0400 Organization: Georgia State University Lines: 54 Message-ID: Reply-To: James D Satterfield NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.96.1.18 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: biojdsx Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9040 It's 93F outside at the moment and very humid. Good time to stay inside under a fan and do some work on the web page. Someone suggested that more photos on manipulating tbh's be added. I've added a section to the homepage where I will compile links to pages with more photos and information on working the hives. The first addition is on making foundation and setting up top bars. Jim Moore has made a couple of suggestions. One, that I make the small images 'clickable' to larger images. I'm not sure that this would be LYNX friendly, so I've put a link at one image that goes to a larger annotated image. Seems to work ok. If you find other photos that would better serve your needs with similar links, please let me know. Jim also suggested that I put links to the additions on the "What's New" link on the homepage. Wonderful suggestion! I've started doing this, so if you want to see what has been added, you no longer have to hunt for it. Just got to the "What's New" section and click on the links. If any of you who are keeping tbh's have photos of your working with the hives, I'd be happy to scan them, put them on the page along with your explanations, and return the photos to you. Drop me a note if you have photos to add. Looks as if my revision of the area on the honey press has inspired some of the site visitors to start making presses. That's wonderful. If tbh beekeeping is an area of interest to you, check out the site at http://www.gsu.edu/~biojdsx/main.htm Cordially yours, Jim ---------------------------------------------------------------- | James D. Satterfield | E-Mail: jsatt@gsu.edu | | 258 Ridge Pine Drive --------------------------------| | Canton, GA 30114, USA Canton is about 40 mi/64 km | | Telephone (770) 479-4784 north of Altanta, Georgia USA | | | | TBH Beekeeping Website: http://www.gsu.edu/~biojdsx/main.htm | ---------------------------------------------------------------- Article 9041 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!chi-news.cic.net!news.bright.net!news From: "John C. Bongiovanni" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Washboarding? Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 16:25:19 -0400 Organization: BrightNet Ohio Lines: 18 Message-ID: <33D2742F.4D6B@bright.net> References: <33D13A71.238A@bright.net> <33D23694.6AE6F7AC@valley.net> Reply-To: jbongi@bright.net NNTP-Posting-Host: medi-cas1-cs-42.dial.bright.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) To: bill greenrose Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9041 this helps, > > bill > > > Appreciate the response - all good points...but the bees are definitely NOT ventilating the hive. In fact, their wings ( those that are actualy "washboarding") are actually motionless. Nor are they guard bees. They apear to be doing nothing actually - If they were members of the bee union, I guess you could say they were picketing. Your point about overcrowding occurred to me, but uaually the bees will collect in a clump reaching perhaps haslfway up the first hive body or more. These washboarders are only one-deep and cover the landing strip. Over the years I've read about it, but I've ever seen any reason for this activity. Article 9042 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!news.aracnet.com!not-for-mail From: "Bern" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Yellow Jacket Problem Date: 20 Jul 1997 23:47:37 GMT Organization: Bern Enterprises Lines: 10 Message-ID: <01bc9566$f2922c80$aa0deecd@bern> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-a43.aracnet.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9042 We have discovered a new yellow jacket nest in our yard deep in the ground. Yes one of us has been stung :-( we need to get rid of these intruders. Is there an effective solution anyone can suggest that is quick? Thank You! -- Email to Fax Service http://www.aracnet.com/~bern bern@aracnet.com Article 9043 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hdsearcher@aol.com (HDsearcher) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Washboarding? Date: 21 Jul 1997 00:18:35 GMT Lines: 4 Message-ID: <19970721001800.UAA00445@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <33D2742F.4D6B@bright.net> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9043 I have exactly the same thing happening with my midnites. I've looked in the book and asked the old goats (no offense) and no answers. So if you come up with something please post here for all to read. Thanks HDSearcher Article 9044 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pollinator@aol.com (Pollinator) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Master Beekeeper Date: 21 Jul 1997 00:38:47 GMT Lines: 20 Message-ID: <19970721003801.UAA01659@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <01bc9522$2b7beda0$62a392cf@default> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9044 In article <01bc9522$2b7beda0$62a392cf@default>, writes: >I have seen this term used in the group and in various bee magazines. Can >anyone answer a few questions regard that designation? How does one become >a Master Beekeeper? Is it a state by state accreditation?(ie. are the >requirements the same in NC as in IL or WA?) Is it earned OJT or in the >classroom? These are just a few of my questions. Perhaps someone can point >me to a reference on the subject. Thanks! Check with your state beekeeper association. Not all states have Master Beekeeper programs, and they are not all the same. Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA Practical Pollination Page http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html Article 9045 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Ken Lawrence Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Washboarding? Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 20:53:22 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 27 Message-ID: <33D2C112.7332@worldnet.att.net> References: <33D2742F.4D6B@bright.net> <19970721001800.UAA00445@ladder02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: beeman52@worldnet.att.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.209.37 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-WorldNet (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9045 HDsearcher wrote: > > I have exactly the same thing happening with my midnites. I've looked in > the book and asked the old goats (no offense) and no answers. So if you > come up with something please post here for all to read. Thanks > HDSearcher Hello: Washboard Behavior is the name given to a curious activity which is commonly seen on the front of a colony, above the entrance. Hundreds of worker bees are often involved. The bees rock back and forth with their heads all oriented downward,toward the entrance. Their Mid and hind legs are firmly planted, while their front legs scrape the surface with quick movements. At the same time, their mandibles methodically slide over the surface. This behavior has been observed on the inside as well as on the outside of the hive. Beyond a description of the movements, we have very little information on this behavior. It is generally thought to be a harmless activity, perhaps a type of cleaning behavior performed by young bees. Washboard behavior has not been associated with any disease or problem in the hive, and seems to have no adverse effects on the colony. This was taken out of the book "THE ILLUSTRATED ENCYCLOPEDIA OF BEEKEEPING". Ken Article 9046 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!chi-news.cic.net!robin.theramp.net!not-for-mail From: Barry Birkey Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Yellow Jacket Problem Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 20:33:56 +0000 Organization: BIRKEY.COM Lines: 22 Message-ID: <33D27634.3FDD@Birkey.Com> References: <01bc9566$f2922c80$aa0deecd@bern> Reply-To: Barry@Birkey.Com NNTP-Posting-Host: nap-ip-136.theramp.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) To: Bern Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9046 Bern wrote: > > We have discovered a new yellow jacket nest in our yard deep in the ground. > Yes one of us has been stung :-( we need to get rid of these intruders. > Is there an effective solution anyone can suggest that is quick? > > Thank You! > -- > Email to Fax Service > http://www.aracnet.com/~bern > bern@aracnet.com Looks like this address needs to start being posted on a weekly basis now that we are getting into the yellowjacket season. http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/academic/agriculture/entomology/beekeeping/general/ -- Barry Birkey West Chicago, Illinois USA barry@birkey.com http://www.birkey.com Article 9047 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Ken Lawrence Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Washboarding? Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 23:01:16 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 43 Message-ID: <33D2DF0C.7DAE@worldnet.att.net> References: <33D2742F.4D6B@bright.net> <19970721001800.UAA00445@ladder02.news.aol.com> <33D2C112.7332@worldnet.att.net> Reply-To: beeman52@worldnet.att.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.209.24 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-WorldNet (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9047 Ken Lawrence wrote: > > HDsearcher wrote: > > > > I have exactly the same thing happening with my midnites. I've looked in > > the book and asked the old goats (no offense) and no answers. So if you > > come up with something please post here for all to read. Thanks > > HDSearcher > > Hello: > Washboard Behavior is the name given to a curious activity which > is commonly seen on the front of a colony, above the entrance. Hundreds > of worker bees are often involved. The bees rock back and forth with > their heads all oriented downward,toward the entrance. Their Mid and > hind legs are firmly planted, while their front legs scrape the surface > with quick movements. At the same time, their mandibles methodically > slide over the surface. This behavior has been observed on the inside > as well as on the outside of the hive. > Beyond a description of the movements, we have very little > information on this behavior. It is generally thought to be a harmless > activity, perhaps a type of cleaning behavior performed by young bees. > Washboard behavior has not been associated with any disease or problem > in the hive, and seems to have no adverse effects on the colony. > > This was taken out of the book "THE ILLUSTRATED ENCYCLOPEDIA OF > BEEKEEPING". > Ken From ABC XYZ of Bee Culture Washboard Behavior- One will often see a hundred or more bees at the colony entrance rocking back and forth. Their heads bent downward. Their hind four legs grip the surface firmly and the front legs scrape the entrance surface. It will be seen that the entrances to colonies are polished by bees; this is especially clear on trees. No one has been able to document why bees behave in this manner but we have assumed that this smmoothing of the entrance surface servers to eliminate cracks and crevasses where noxious microbes might live just as polishing the inside of the nest with propolis gives protection there. Ken Article 9048 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: kenm@wn.com.au (Ken Morris) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Pierco or similar frames Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 15:14:14 GMT Organization: Hillgrove Farm Honey Reply-To: kenm@wn.com.au Message-ID: <33d37c17.13370612@news.wn.com.au> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp44.wn.com.au Lines: 11 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news5.digex.net!news.kcdata.com!dhcp44.wn.com.au Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9048 Can anyone point me to an e-mail address or website for one piece plastic frames? I seem to recal a contributor to this newsgroup saying that he was a Pierco distributor. Also, are there any distributors in Australia? Regards, Ken Morris Hillgrove Farm Honey, Batavia Coast, Western Australia Telephone (618 outside Aust) (08 in Aust) 9926 1087 http://www.wn.com.au/gol/members/kenm/index.htm Australia/New Zealand Dist.BiData Beekeeping Software Article 9049 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!murdoch!usenet From: "Will Shaw " Subject: Re: Apistan Failure Reported X-Nntp-Posting-Host: bootp-211-15.bootp.virginia.edu Message-ID: <01bc961a$26807480$0fd38f80@WShaw.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: UVA Facilities Management X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1160 References: <9707191804182249@beenet.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 21:11:37 GMT Lines: 10 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9049 Andy Nachbaur wrote in article <9707191804182249@beenet.com>... > ...Anyone else had similar problems. I'm presently bee-less in Fla. since I > commute to Virginia to take care of my bees there (a true "migratory" > beekeeper!). I am also discovering what an amazine difference Florida > beekeeping is from the way we Yankees do it. ... Real Virginians are not yankees. :-) - Will Article 9050 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Pete Wolcott Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: bad honey (repost by request) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 16:44:08 -0700 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 19 Message-ID: <33D3F448.7BC2@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> References: <19970616034001.XAA01174@ladder02.news.aol.com> <9706110716301953@beenet.com> <9707191804182247@beenet.com> Reply-To: PBJJJ@postoffice.worldnet.att.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.133.147 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-WorldNet (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9050 Andy Nachbaur wrote: > > "MAD" HONEY DISEASE > > I bet some of you thought you have seen or heard it all, not true, if > you don't know about the "grayanotoxin" and "mad" honey disease or > Honey Intoxication caused by consuming honey produced from some of the > most beautiful flower's in the west and other places belonging to the > rhododendron family. > > snip There is a large Rhody right in front of my hives and about twenty others on the same property. I have never seen a honey bee on them. Bumble bees love them however. Pete Article 9051 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: nicedeers@aol.com (NiceDeers) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: PLSE EME. I NEED TO GET RID OF HIVE. Date: 22 Jul 1997 02:04:21 GMT Lines: 6 Message-ID: <19970722020400.WAA05587@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9051 I HAVE A BEE HIVE ON MY GARAGE. I WANT TO GET RID OF THEM W/O KILLING THEM OR GETTING STUNG. WHAT DO I DO? NO BEEKEEPERS IN MY PHONE BOOK. PLEASE EMAIL AN ANSWER. Article 9052 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Pete Wolcott Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: PLSE EME. I NEED TO GET RID OF HIVE. Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 21:49:20 -0700 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 10 Message-ID: <33D43BD0.735F@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> References: <19970722020400.WAA05587@ladder01.news.aol.com> Reply-To: PBJJJ@postoffice.worldnet.att.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.134.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-WorldNet (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9052 NiceDeers wrote: > > I HAVE A BEE HIVE ON MY GARAGE. I WANT TO GET RID OF THEM W/O KILLING THEM OR GETTING STUNG. WHAT DO I DO? > > NO BEEKEEPERS IN MY PHONE BOOK. > > PLEASE EMAIL AN ANSWER. Give us a hint about where you live. Maybe one of us beekeepers are close to you. Pete (Seattle) Article 9053 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.2.96.62!news.rain.net!news.teleport.com!not-for-mail From: Paul Cauthorn Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Nectar sources, Oregon? Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 23:36:17 -0700 Organization: Cascadia Hop Company Lines: 15 Message-ID: <33D454E1.371E@teleport.com> Reply-To: pbc@teleport.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-eug1-19.teleport.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9053 Hello, What good nectar sources are still available west of the Cascades in Oregon? Are there any that would provide a surplus? Blackberries are over, and fireweed is about 1/2 of the way through in my area. Is fireweed still worthwhile at this point? Would ag crops be the place to look? Peppermint and Clover...? Any suggestions and contact information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Paul Cauthorn Article 9054 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!eastnews1.East.Sun.COM!walters.East.Sun.COM!usenet From: "Brian M. Boerner" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Fraudulent E-mail Info Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 10:43:39 -0400 Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 33 Message-ID: <33D4C71B.520D@East.Sun.COM> References: <33CC46AB.74209A65@valley.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: fundeduty.east.sun.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4m) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9054 > > today i called the number collect. to make a long story short[er], it > turned out that the company at that number had no idea what i was > talking about, they did not do electronic transactions [adult or > otherwise], and they had no idea why people kept calling the number to > ask about similar e-mails. my guess is that someone was very p*ssed at > 'bruce' or someone else at that company, and decided to take revenge by > sending many such bogus e-mails, triggering a flood of collect calls to > the company. actually, a pretty slick, if somewhat perverse, kind of > revenge. > It sounds to me like the mailing address has been spoofed. If you view the full headers on the email address, it may give you some clue as to where it is coming from. If you have access to a UNIX box, you can nslookup the host and at least find out some basic information regarding the message. Perhaps a reply to postmaster of the ISP of the person sending these types of mailings would help. I deliberatly change my email address that I post to newsgroups from to avoid this. If you wanna send the email to me (must have full headers) I wouldnt mind doing a little leg work for you. Brian -- ************************************************* * Brian M. Boerner * * Sun Microsystems, Inc. * * brian.boerner@East.Sun.COM * ************************************************* Sun Microsystems, Inc. is NOT Responsible for the Opinions Expressed by myself, Brian M. Boerner. Article 9055 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!eastnews1.East.Sun.COM!walters.East.Sun.COM!usenet From: "Brian M. Boerner" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Anyone Recomend a Good Beekeeping Book? Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 10:59:41 -0400 Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 27 Message-ID: <33D4CADD.72CC@Eng.Sun.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: fundeduty.east.sun.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4m) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9055 I have been interested in Beekeeping for sometime now, and have recently aquired some used equipment. I have read some of the FAQs, though they seem a bit out of date. If anyone could provide me with some general pointers to some WWW sites, that would be fine. Also, any recomendations as to where to start would be excellent as well. If anyone knows of a great "handbook" for beginers, it would be great to have: Title: Author: ISBN #: Looking forward to hearing from you all. Brian p.s. Email header is modified, you may have to change the Eng to East. Brian -- ************************************************* * Brian M. Boerner * * Sun Microsystems, Inc. * * brian.boerner@East.Sun.COM * ************************************************* Sun Microsystems, Inc. is NOT Responsible for the Opinions Expressed by myself, Brian M. Boerner. Article 9056 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: kenm@wn.com.au (Ken Morris) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Pierco frames Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 12:52:11 GMT Organization: Hillgrove Farm Honey Reply-To: kenm@wn.com.au Message-ID: <33d37aaf.13009810@news.wn.com.au> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp56.wn.com.au Lines: 10 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.enteract.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!feed1.news.erols.com!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.he.net!news.accessone.com!news1.cstone.net!news5.digex.net!news.kcdata.com!dhcp56.wn.com.au Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9056 Can someone direct me to a Pierco or other type(s) of one - piece plastic frames website or e-mail address? I seem to remember a contributor to this newsgroup mentioning that he was a distributor for them. Also, is there a distributor in Australia? Regards, Ken Morris Hillgrove Farm Honey, Batavia Coast, Western Australia http://www.wn.com.au/gol/members/kenm/index.htm Australia/New Zealand Distributor of BiData Beekeeping Software Article 9057 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <33D4F6EC.3CF2@ibm.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 14:07:40 -0400 From: "Philip M. Hempel" Reply-To: bigun@ibm.net Organization: Communications Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Yellow Jacket Problem References: <01bc9566$f2922c80$aa0deecd@bern> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.72.105.229 Lines: 20 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsm.ibm.net!ibm.net!news1.ibm.net!166.72.105.229 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9057 Bern wrote: > > We have discovered a new yellow jacket nest in our yard deep in the ground. > Yes one of us has been stung :-( we need to get rid of these intruders. > Is there an effective solution anyone can suggest that is quick? > > Thank You! > -- > Email to Fax Service > http://www.aracnet.com/~bern > bern@aracnet.com Call Blossomland Supply for the spray "Gettum Gone" just spray into the entrances of the nests (sprays up to 12 feet away) and within 24 hours the nest wil be dead! Works well with hornets in the attic and any other bothersome insects that are entering and exiting a specific area to their nests. Just $7.00 US a can plus shipping and handling. PMH Blossomland Supply Article 9058 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <33D4F770.1A0D@ibm.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 14:09:52 -0400 From: "Philip M. Hempel" Reply-To: bigun@ibm.net Organization: Communications Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Pierco frames References: <33d37aaf.13009810@news.wn.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.72.105.229 Lines: 18 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!gatech!howland.erols.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsm.ibm.net!ibm.net!news1.ibm.net!166.72.105.229 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9058 Ken Morris wrote: > > Can someone direct me to a Pierco or other type(s) of one - piece > plastic frames website or e-mail address? I seem to remember a > contributor to this newsgroup mentioning that he was a distributor for > them. Also, is there a distributor in Australia? > Regards, > Ken Morris > Hillgrove Farm Honey, Batavia Coast, Western Australia > http://www.wn.com.au/gol/members/kenm/index.htm > Australia/New Zealand Distributor of BiData Beekeeping Software Call Blossomland Supply for Pierco frames and foundations. From one frame to a truckload 800-637-5262 9-6 M-F 9-3 Sat EST PMH Blossomland Supply www.blossomland.com Article 9059 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!192.35.44.7!news.crd.ge.com!rebecca!uacsc2.albany.edu!SYSAM From: SYSAM@uacsc2.albany.edu (Aaron Morris) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Master Beekeeper Date: Tue, 22 Jul 97 14:39:01 EDT Organization: University at Albany, Albany NY 12222 Lines: 68 Message-ID: <17BB3CE0AS86.SYSAM@uacsc2.albany.edu> References: <01bc9522$2b7beda0$62a392cf@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: uacsc2.albany.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9059 In article <01bc9522$2b7beda0$62a392cf@default> writes: > >Can anyone answer a few questions regard(ing the Master Beekeeper) >designation?.... > >Steve Davison Eastern Apiculture Society has a Master Beekeeper Program. To earn the designation one must pass written, field and lab tests. Attached is the EAS announcement that was included in the Southern Adirondack Beekeepers Association newsletter: >--- EAS Summer Meeting ---< The summer meeting of the Eastern Apiculture Society will be held from August 13-15 at the University of Delaware, John M. Clayton Conference Center located in Newark, Delaware. As far as EAS meetings are concerned, Newark is practically in our back yard! Admittedly it's more than a stone throw (approximately 300 miles) but it's readily accessible (train to Wilmington or plane to Philadelphia or just drive) and the EAS conference won't held closer to this neck of the woods again this century! The theme of EAS '97 is "Communication" - the way bees com- municate with each other, what bees tell us and finally how beekeepers communicate with each other. Scheduled speakers include a veritable "Who's Who" of beekeepers: Marion Ellis, Clarence Collison, W.P. Sheppard, Cynthia Scott- Dupree, Richard Jones, Scott Camazine, Jeff Pettis, Tony Jadczak, Diana Sammataro, Anita Collins, Roger Morse, Bob Mitchell, Tom McCormack, Paul Jackson, Warren Seaver, Oliver Collins, Richard Bonney, Maryann Frazier, Larry Connor, Elizabeth Capaldi, George Kelly and more! Topics to be discussed are just as rich: mites, essential oils, drone bees, subspecies diversity in the honey bee, Apimondia '99, IBRA, queen supersedure, African bees, swarms, beeswax, moving bees, removing bees (and wasps), soap, honey wine (mead), producing comb honey, integrated pest management, educating the public about bees, bee dis- eases and much, much more! Also offered at EAS '97 are three tracks of short courses to help all levels of beekeepers: beginning, intermediate and advanced. The short courses are offered prior to the con- ference on August 11-13. Additionally, EAS '97 offers their Master Beekeeping program and again this year the American Apitherapy Society (AAS) will be present for a part of the conference on Wednesday, August 13 from 8:30 AM to 12:30 PM. If speakers and topics aren't enough to entice attendance, EAS '97 also offers the opportunity to go sight seeing! Two tours are being offered: a day visit to historic New Castle (a colonial community on Delaware Bay) and a visit to Wintertur Museum and Garden (the former country estate of Henry Francis duPont). It's apparent that a plethora of activities are available at EAS '97. The deadline for advance registration is July 15, after which there will be a $20 late registration fee. Con- ference fees are $60 for individuals, $90 per family/couple. For further information contact John Tulloch, EAS '97 Registrar at PO Box 473, Odessa, DE 19730 or phone (302) 378-1917 (evenings only please). Article 9060 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.bu.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!not-for-mail From: bill greenrose Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Anyone Recomend a Good Beekeeping Book? Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 00:07:02 -0400 Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Lines: 52 Message-ID: <33D58366.F11A8421@valley.net> References: <33D4CADD.72CC@Eng.Sun.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: v2-p-102.valley.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9060 Brian M. Boerner wrote: > I have been interested in Beekeeping for sometime now, and have > recently > aquired some used equipment. I have read some of the FAQs, though > they > seem a bit out of date. If anyone could provide me with some general > pointers to some WWW sites, that would be fine. Also, any > recomendations as to where to start would be excellent as well. If > anyone knows of a great "handbook" for beginers, it would be great to > have: > Title: > Author: > ISBN #: > > Looking forward to hearing from you all. > > Brian > > p.s. Email header is modified, you may have to change the Eng to East. > > Brian > > -- > ************************************************* > * Brian M. Boerner * > * Sun Microsystems, Inc. * > * brian.boerner@East.Sun.COM * > ************************************************* > Sun Microsystems, Inc. is NOT Responsible for the > Opinions Expressed by myself, Brian M. Boerner. greetings, i found 'Beekeeping - A Practical Guide' by Richard E. Bonney, Garden Way Publishing, 1994, ISBN 0-88266-861-7 (pb) to be a very useful beginner's book. and at $16.95 it's a bargain. you can always go with one of the more advanced books, after you're through your first year. hope this helps, bill -- ######################################## don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player greenros@medicalmedia.com [work] bill.greenrose@valley.net [home] http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 Article 9061 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!News1.Toronto.iSTAR.net!News4.Ottawa.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!news1.istar.ca!not-for-mail From: billfern@istar.ca (bill fernihough) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Yellow Jacket Problem Date: 23 Jul 1997 05:08:01 GMT Organization: Your Organization Lines: 3 Message-ID: <5r43jh$eis$1@news.istar.ca> References: <01bc9566$f2922c80$aa0deecd@bern> <33D27634.3FDD@Birkey.Com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts9-12.vcr.istar.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (x86 32bit) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9061 Since its in the ground, pour about ounce of gasoline into the area. The fumes will congeal their blood. Absolutely don't do this anywhere else. Article 9062 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!158.152.1.94!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!emphasys.demon.co.uk!alyn From: "Alyn W. Ashworth" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Anyone Recomend a Good Beekeeping Book? Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 08:22:10 +0100 Organization: Emphasys Computer Consultants Ltd. Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <33D4CADD.72CC@Eng.Sun.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: emphasys.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: emphasys.demon.co.uk [158.152.242.226] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 3.03a Lines: 13 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9062 In article <33D4CADD.72CC@Eng.Sun.COM>, "Brian M. Boerner" writes >I have been interested in Beekeeping for sometime now, and have recently >aquired some used equipment. If >anyone knows of a great "handbook" for beginers, it would be great to >have: Ted Hooper's "Guide to Bees and Honey" is an excellent introduction and has been mentioned before, if I'm not mistaken. -- Alyn W. Ashworth Lancashire & North-West Bee-Keepers' Association. UK. (but I don't speak on their bee-half) http://www.demon.co.uk/emphasys Article 9063 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.enteract.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!news.inetnebr.com!netserv.unmc.edu!news.mid.net!news From: hamilton@soapnotes.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Master Beekeeper Date: 23 Jul 1997 13:54:08 GMT Organization: Global Internet, Peace of Mind is finally Online! Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5r52e0$7ud@shocker.gi.net> References: <01bc9522$2b7beda0$62a392cf@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: soapnotes.gi.net X-Newsreader: News for Windows NT X1.0-62 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9063 In Nebraska we have a 3 day class followed by a requirement for 6 hours of volunteer teaching... the workshop is at the end of this month. See http://ianrwww.unl.edu/ianr/entomol/beekpg/beekpg.htm Dave Article 9064 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: kenm@wn.com.au (Ken Morris) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Anyone Recomend a Good Beekeeping Book? Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 14:17:34 GMT Organization: Hillgrove Farm Honey Reply-To: kenm@wn.com.au Message-ID: <33d611bb.808496@news.wn.com.au> References: <33D4CADD.72CC@Eng.Sun.COM> <33D58366.F11A8421@valley.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp12.wn.com.au Lines: 19 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nac!news.kcdata.com!dhcp12.wn.com.au Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9064 On Wed, 23 Jul 1997 00:07:02 -0400, bill greenrose wrote: >Brian M. Boerner wrote: > >> If anyone could provide me with some general >> pointers to some WWW sites, that would be fine. Also, any >> recomendations as to where to start would be excellent as well. Hello Brian, My website (URL below) has links to a lot of beekeepers, who have links to a lot............ have a look and see what you think. Regards, Ken Morris Hillgrove Farm Honey, Batavia Coast, Western Australia http://www.wn.com.au/gol/members/kenm/index.htm Australia/New Zealand Distributor of BiData Beekeeping Software Article 9065 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!demos!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!atl-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.planetc.com!news From: Gary Cluesman Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Help on Bee Keeping... Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 18:06:41 -0700 Organization: Planet Systems Inc. Lines: 8 Message-ID: <33D6AAA1.22AC@planetc.com> Reply-To: cluesman@planetc.com NNTP-Posting-Host: newport-dialup-67.planetc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) CC: cluesman@planetc.com Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9065 Please email me at cluesman@planetc.com if you know answers. A friend of mine is starting bee keeping and he is wanting to know what to get to control the lice and other dangerous insects that can kill off the bees. Please help. Thanks, Gary Cluesman Article 9066 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!gatech!purdue!news.bu.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!not-for-mail From: bill greenrose Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: advice for newbies [like me] Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 22:26:00 -0400 Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Lines: 34 Message-ID: <33D6BD37.62A6983@valley.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: kip-2-143.valley.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9066 greetings, this past weekend i attended my first beekeeping workshop, sponsored by the New Hampshire Beekeepers Association. what a great event, with lots of friendly, helpful people [just like this newsgroup, only live and in person] and lots of useful ideas and hands on experience. i am now a proud member of the association and look forward to future meetings. i'm posting this just to reiterate what has been said by many of the seasoned beekeepers in this group: if you're a newbie, like me, you can read all you want, both on paper and on the net, but there's nothing like working bees with the pros. you will gain more useful, practical knowledge in a couple of hours, than you can in a year's worth of reading. and, you'll probably save yourself some grief to boot. beekeeping organizations are all over the place, and they exist to help beekeepers of all sizes and levels of experience. if you can't find one easily, contact your local government agricultural agency. i live somewhat off the beaten path in northern new england, and i was amazed at the number of beekeepers in the area. now, i have some great local contacts to turn to for advice. believe me, if you join a local group [or even if you just attend a few meetings] you won't be disappointed. hope this helps, bill ######################################## don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player greenros@medicalmedia.com [work] bill.greenrose@valley.net [home] http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 Article 9067 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.enteract.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!feed1.news.erols.com!wdcpop.dra.net!news.dra.com!hunter.premier.net!tnt.premier.net!news-out.communique.net!communique!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: ahlmon1961@aol.com (Ahlmon1961) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Swarm returned (clipped queen) Date: 24 Jul 1997 02:17:12 GMT Lines: 12 Message-ID: <19970724021701.WAA08277@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9067 Hi: Just wanted to share a thing that happened the other day. One of my nuc hives swarmed and then they came back. I reached down into the grass to find the clipped and marked queen surrouned by workers. So I sknew which hive the swarm had issued from and i gently placed her on hive entrance. She walks right in and within 30-40 mins the swarm repopulates the hive. Went into hive and found swarm cells removed them and made a smAll nuc to alleviate crowding. Added an All American queen to that (clipped) nuc. I was lucky to find the queen in grass and lucky to get the better half of my bees back. Article 9068 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!demos!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!news.ais.net!not-for-mail From: Marty Kenny Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: African Bee Repeat Request Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 20:43:39 -0500 Organization: Chicago Cybernetics, Inc Lines: 42 Message-ID: <33D6B349.48E7@ais.net> Reply-To: ccimart.drop@ais.net NNTP-Posting-Host: dyn-tc01-244.chi.ais.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9068 This is the second postin of this request for help. Thanks to those of you who sent some information previously. You can answer to me or to the address below. Joe is on a short phone budget so I am trying to help with his search. A thousand thanks in advance. Marty (Joe's brother) Subject: Date: 11 Jul 1997 11:04:30 +0100 From: ibpriory@infoweb.abs.net To: ccimart@ais.net CCIMART@AIS.NET 10 July 1997 Dear Marty, Dorothy & all, I got your email of 8 July, and the first thing that comes to mind are the "furnaces in heaven". I think heaven will be like Nigeria, where you do not need furnaces to keep warm. . . . On another note, would you please go wandering in your Internet for me and look for bees. Under that look for TOM INDUSTRIES, El Cajon CA, who advertize "foundation rollers" for tropical African "apis mellifera"; dimensions of cells must be 3mm on the side and 5mm across, exactly; see their specs and prices. Also look for ETS THOMAS FILS SA, 65 rue Abbi Georges Thomas, Fay-aux-Loges, France, for "extractor for combs from top- bar hives", which are not on full frame; again get specs and price. Best wishes and prayers, Joseph OP Article 9069 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!arachnid.Gsu.EDU!panther.Gsu.EDU!biojdsx From: James D Satterfield Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Queen Rearing in TBH's Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 21:41:24 -0400 Organization: Georgia State University Lines: 14 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.96.1.18 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: biojdsx Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9069 I have made up a web page on queen rearing in tbh's. The page has 9 photos and a link to a larger, annotated photo. A link to the new page is in the "What's New" link for ease of access. If you are interested in top bar hive beekeeping or in raising queens, check out this url: http://www.gsu.edu/~biojdsx/main.htm I hope that you find the information helpful. Jim Article 9070 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hnnutt@aol.com (HNNutt) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Cheap Extractor Date: 24 Jul 1997 03:16:32 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: <19970724031601.XAA12705@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9070 Texas just keeps getting hotter!! This is a great news group. I appreciate all the information everyone contributes so freely. I've spent a lot of money this year as a beginner with 4 hives. So much infact, that as soon as the weather cools down a little bit I have to build my wife a carport.... ..."TO GET EVEN" as she puts it. I've had a really good honey production year. Can anyone recommend a cheap extractor that a beginner could make do with for a couple of years? I have about 100 frames to extract, but I have plenty of time so a small extractor would do. If anyone knows of one, I need to know how much it costs.....where to get it. Thanks again HNNUTT@AOL.COM Article 9071 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!infeed2.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sendit.nodak.edu!news.nodak.edu!plains.NoDak.edu!altenbur From: altenbur@plains.NoDak.edu (Karl Altenburg) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Yellow Jacket Problem Date: 24 Jul 1997 03:12:02 GMT Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5r6h62$f20$1@daily-planet.nodak.edu> References: <01bc9566$f2922c80$aa0deecd@bern> <33D27634.3FDD@Birkey.Com> <5r43jh$eis$1@news.istar.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: plains.nodak.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9071 bill fernihough (billfern@istar.ca) wrote: : Since its in the ground, pour about ounce of gasoline into the area. The fumes : will congeal their blood. Absolutely don't do this anywhere else. Possibly more environmentally friendly would be to cover the hole with a clear plastic or glass bowl or insert some steel wool into the entrance hole. If enough light enters through to entrance hole they will more than likely not dig a new hole and the colony will starve. Remember to conduct any extermination of this type at night. Be careful when using a flash light since if they are aroused they will fly to the light source (its the only thing they can see at night). -- Karl R Altenburg altenbur@plains.NoDak.edu North Dakota State University Fargo, ND 58105 http://www.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu/~altenbur All things are artificial, for nature is the art of God. SIR THOMAS BROWNE Article 9072 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.74.141.7!zinger.callamer.com!not-for-mail From: "OLd Drone" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: bad honey (repost by request) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 01:29:01 -0700 Organization: Call America Internet Services +1 (800) 563-3271 Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5r73qc$irf$1@zinger.callamer.com> References: <19970616034001.XAA01174@ladder02.news.aol.com> <9706110716301953@beenet.com> <9707191804182247@beenet.com> <33D3F448.7BC2@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: n2-102-109.thegrid.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-MimeOle: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9072 Pete Wolcott wrote in article <33D3F448.7BC2@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>... >Andy Nachbaur wrote: >> >> "MAD" HONEY DISEASE >There is a large Rhody right in front of my hives and about twenty > I have never seen a honey bee on them. Bumble Hi Pete, My only expierence is with what we call "westen azalua", not much of a shrub that has beautiful wild flowers, it is seldom seen but can be found as far south as the coast ranges in Monterey county, Calif. In very wet years it can produce enough honey that some will be stored. It also is very toxic to the bees so they become so weak little surplus is made. They bee hives do grow out of it and replace the lost bees. The effects can be confused with a mistimed farm chemical application causing moderate loss of field bees. Loss to bees is reported once or twice in 25 years in this local, so it is not a big problem. Public risk is very low to nothing as if this honey was extracted it would come off with the Sage crop and be blended by the bees and in the extracting process. ttul, the OLd Drone Article 9073 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: vandy@avana.net (Vandy Terre) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Yellow Jacket Problem Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 19:20:39 GMT Organization: Tanglewood Farm Reply-To: vandy@avana.net Message-ID: <33e1a1b7.21330618@news.avana.net> References: <01bc9566$f2922c80$aa0deecd@bern> <33D27634.3FDD@Birkey.Com> <5r43jh$eis$1@news.istar.ca> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.01/16.397 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.42.61.159 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.42.61.159 Lines: 18 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-dc-10.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news.avana.net!207.42.61.159 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9073 On 23 Jul 1997 05:08:01 GMT, billfern@istar.ca (bill fernihough) wrote: >Since its in the ground, pour about ounce of gasoline into the area. The fumes >will congeal their blood. Absolutely don't do this anywhere else. > Rubbing alcohol will do the same thing with far less danger. Just make sure that no animal or child tries to drink the stuff. Yellow jacket nests in areas not used by humans should be left alone. Those yellow jackets are part of the natural garbage disposal system. They eat spoiling meat from dead animals and flys. Vandy Terre vandy@avana.net Georgia, USA Article 9074 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!gatech!newsfeed.pitt.edu!dsinc!nntp.upenn.edu!dolphin.upenn.edu!djt From: djt@dolphin.upenn.edu (David J Trickett) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queen excluders, can they be too small? Date: 24 Jul 1997 20:53:16 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5r8fbs$op0$1@netnews.upenn.edu> References: <33BBAE0C.41C6@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu> <33CE20B8.41C6@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: dolphin.upenn.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2-upenn1.3] Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9074 Randy Nessler (rnessler@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu) wrote: : Alyn W. Ashworth wrote: : > : > In article <33BBAE0C.41C6@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu>, Randy Nessler : > writes : > >I installed supers on three hives on June 12, with a queen excluder : > >between the super and the brood chamber. Last night I opened the hives : > >for a look, and there was no activity in the supers (no comb being : > >drawn, and very few bees present in the super). These are first year : > >hives, so I guess they might not be ready, though one hive has both deep : > >brood chambers in production. The bees are three banded Italians, and : > >I've never seen different sized openings offered for the queen excluder, : > >so I guess I just need to be patient? : > : > I've come to this thread a bit late in the day, but can I ask what type : > of excluders you are using? I agree that the problem was the use of undrawn frames above the excleuder, but tow other comments for reference: 1) yes, there has been at least one instance of the excluder actually being too small (it was poosted in this group a couple of years ago... ) 2) Often, once you have a super full of capped honey it is unnecessary to use an excluder. The capped honey super serves as enough of a deterrent to the queen, who will turn a round and go back down to lay eggs. - Dave T. Article 9075 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!gatech!purdue!news.bu.edu!ppp-77-3.bu.edu!user From: iraseski@xensei.com (Ira Seskin) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: advice pleaseee! Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 19:46:32 -0500 Organization: ira_seskin@bmugbos.org Lines: 61 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-77-3.bu.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9075 I have been noticing less and less bee activity in my "origianl" hive since the last swarm. Folks at Weaver ( I have Buckfast Bees) suggested I check it out since it has bees over 2 weeks. What I found: Lover hive body- on all frames, little pollen, no brood or larve or eggs in the middle.Dead Q in front of hive, obviously removed by remaining bees. Three hatched Q cells on the botton of the frames. No new Q cell activity. Upper hive body - all 10 frames are just about solid honey. Supers above excluder- ( I dont need the excluder , since there 'aint no Q to exclude) all had comb building, and honey cells. Sounds like a not so viable hive, unless I requeewn right away .. so I looked in the new hive which started with the captured swarm: Lover hive body... chock full of bees, pollen, brood, larve, eggs and more bees.... lots and lots of bees. Ok. Obviously I need to combine the two hives, ( newspaper method?) and the new hive is very strong all things considered.. or Do I take some brood from the good hive, place in original, and add a Queen. I just want a strong happy colony going into fall/winter. Advice please...... Im going on vacation for a few weeks and want to do whatever to the hives before I leave. Thanks. -I- -- /| __ / | ,-~ / Y :| // / | jj /( .^ >-"~"-v" /^ ^ Y /o o | ( ~T~ j >._-' _./ I'm / "~" | Having A Bad Y _, | HARE /| ;-"~ _ l Day / l/ ,-"~ \ \//\/ .- \ Y / Y > ) l I ! > ]\ _\ /"\ (" ~----( ~ Y. ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ->Bugs the Wonder Bunny<- ira_seskin@bmugbos.org (e- mail only... no attachments) iraseski@xensei.com (e-mail when sending attachements) http://www.xensei.com/users/iraseski "Live Free or Die" Article 9076 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!nntp-hub.idt.net!nntp.farm.idt.net!news From: trg63@mail.idt.net (Browser) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bee Keepers in North Jersey Area Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 01:51:59 GMT Organization: IDT Lines: 4 Message-ID: <5r917d$po2@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> Reply-To: trg63@mail.idt.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-49.ts-10.hck.idt.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9076 I am looking for any bee keepers in the North Jersey Area which sell the local honey. There used to be one in North Haledon; however, he doesn't seem to be there anymore. Any help would be appreciated. Article 9077 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!demos!www1.relcom.ru!EU.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!news.rain.net!news.teleport.com!not-for-mail From: Paul Cauthorn Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: fs: Pollen Traps Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 01:57:51 -0700 Organization: Cascadia Hop Company Lines: 10 Message-ID: <33D86A8F.4FBF@teleport.com> Reply-To: pbc@teleport.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-eug1-16.teleport.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9077 For sale: 5 - Pollen traps These are bottom traps that take the place of the bottom board. $15/each Paul Eugene, OR Article 9078 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.enteract.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!feed1.news.erols.com!infeed2.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!209.48.224.41!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail From: honeybs@radix.net (Ferris) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Master Beekeeper Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 05:49:50 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 18 Message-ID: <33d83d98.6948287@news1.radix.net> References: <01bc9522$2b7beda0$62a392cf@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: port2.annex1.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9078 On 20 Jul 1997 15:35:56 GMT, wrote: >I have seen this term used in the group and in various bee magazines. Can >anyone answer a few questions regard that designation? How does one become >a Master Beekeeper? Is it a state by state accreditation?(ie. are the >requirements the same in NC as in IL or WA?) Is it earned OJT or in the >classroom? These are just a few of my questions. Perhaps someone can point >me to a reference on the subject. Thanks! > >Steve Davison Master Beekeepers are those that pass a beekeeping exam given by EAS. However most of them would starve to death if they had to make a living by beekeeping. Strive to be a Commercial Beekeeper and being a Master Beekeeper will become trivial. Greg Ferris Article 9079 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news.tamu.edu!news.utdallas.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh8ac.bnr.ca!bcarh8ab.bnr.ca!bcrkh13.bnr.ca!news From: Adrian Kyte Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Yellow Jacket Problem Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 08:58:39 +0100 Organization: Bell Northern Research Lines: 20 Message-ID: <33D85CAF.62E9@nt.com> References: <01bc9566$f2922c80$aa0deecd@bern> <33D27634.3FDD@Birkey.Com> <5r43jh$eis$1@news.istar.ca> <5r6h62$f20$1@daily-planet.nodak.edu> Reply-To: adrian.kyte.delete_this@nt.com NNTP-Posting-Host: dpaii11.bnr.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9079 > Possibly more environmentally friendly would be to cover the hole with a > clear plastic or glass bowl or insert some steel wool into the entrance > hole. If enough light enters through to entrance hole they will more than > likely not dig a new hole and the colony will starve. > > Remember to conduct any extermination of this type at night. Be careful > when using a flash light since if they are aroused they will fly to the > light source (its the only thing they can see at night). > > -- Please excuse my ignorance but what are "yelow jackets"? Is this a local or nick name for wasps? -- Regards Adrian :-{)} Any statements made or opinions expressed are my own and not my employers. Adrian.Kyte.delete_this.3310836@bnf.ca [work] beeman.delete_this@enterprise.net [home] Article 9093 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: berrya41@aol.com (BerryA41) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bumble Bees Date: 26 Jul 1997 01:04:19 GMT Lines: 2 Message-ID: <19970726010400.VAA01753@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9093 Can anyone give me any information on keeping, and working with, bumble bees. Article 9094 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!198.207.169.10!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wildbee!andy.nachbaur From: andy.nachbaur@beenet.com (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: FAQ...? Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 21:57:00 GMT Message-ID: <9707252050102285@beenet.com> Organization: WILD BEE'S BBS (209) 826-8107 LOS BANOS, CA Distribution: world References: <01bc9442$80bf3be0$52a44382@8613gvd30934> Lines: 91 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9094 >Is there a FAQ for this NG? I just got here. 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Article 9095 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!198.207.169.10!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wildbee!andy.nachbaur From: andy.nachbaur@beenet.com (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: BEEKEEPING in the NEWS Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:39:00 GMT Message-ID: <9707252050102286@beenet.com> Organization: WILD BEE'S BBS (209) 826-8107 LOS BANOS, CA Distribution: world Lines: 50 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9095 Public Opinion about Beekeepers, Bee's, and Beekeeping We all have knowledge and some say they have more then others but in todays political world what counts is not what you know or think you do but what others think about you. The public perception of beekeeping is based more on what they read in today's newspaper then ever before and not in my memory has more been written about what we do as beekeepers. Press releases from under funded tax supported beekeeping regulatory and research institutions looking for public support are soon turned into the Gospel by reporters looking for a story with a hundred different slants. The problem is not the lack of information but separating the opinion from the fact. In order to do that one must have a diverse supply of facts and opinion. There has always been depository of what is written in the press, the problem has been that they were costly, and more historical in nature. Things are changing....Try this address and mark it as I guarantee that you will be going back: http://www.newsworks.com/ This is more then maybe one of the best NEWS pages on the net its the SEARCH engine dummy that you just won't believe until you try it. You will get hundreds of hits on beekeeping topics from killer bees to the benefits of bee stings, including first person information on even becoming immune to bee stings. The local stories from 100 on-line US newspapers about local beekeepers many times would never make it to your own news stand. AND its not the same old stuff you keep hitting on with the normal search engine such as Yahoo, its fresh, even today's news. Even a simple search using "beekeepers" returned 292 newspaper articles with the top 100 sorted by relevance on pages of 10. Information on many of the questions asked in the beekeeping news group and the BEE-List can be found or expanded on using this NEWSWORKS search engine. ttul, the OLd Drone (c) Permission is granted to freely copy this document in any form, or to print for any use. (w)Opinions are not necessarily facts. Use at own risk. --- þ QMPro 1.53 þ http://194.112.46.22/public/default.htm (Amigabee BBS) Article 9096 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!gatech!purdue!news.bu.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!not-for-mail From: bill greenrose Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Canola oil and mites Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 00:26:29 -0400 Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Lines: 72 Message-ID: <33D97C75.AA91B265@valley.net> References: <33CD4B62.6979@starpoint.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: v2-p-137.valley.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) To: Elroy Rogers X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9096 Elroy Rogers wrote: > My neighbor has two hives and is being plagued with mites all spring, > he > put in up to 4 apistan strips in each hive. This has helped with > strengthening the hives, but the bees were still showing all signs of > mites. One of his relatives from Indiana was visiting him who showed > him > how they treat for mites. They use a spray bottle with canola oil in > it > and spray the front entrance of the hive about three pumps, early in > the > morning before the bees are out. They treat once a week. > > My neighbor tried it on monday, and today he has dead mites all over > the > entrance of the hive. I have found this very interesting and thought > I'd pass it on. Is any one else using canola oil with success or > failure? > > Elroy greetings, i'm not using canola oil, but i am using food grade [laxative] mineral oil for mite control. following dr. rodriguez' program, i apply it to the tops of every frame in the hive. i'm using a shampoo bottle with a small lift up tip, so i can easily control the application. just a small dribble along the full length of each frame every 7 or 8 days. so far, it's working well, and is not unduly disruptive to the bees. however, last weekend i attended my first new hampshire beekeepers' association workshop, and they demonstrated an alternative method. they soaked paper napkins in vegetable oil, and laid 2 napkins on top of the frames on the top brood box. the bees chew up the napkins to remove them from the hive and spread the oil on themselves in the process. they've been using this technique since last year, supplemented with apistan strips in the fall [not in the spring], and reported excellent results. we examined about 200 drone larvae and only found 2 varroa mites. then, they used a hand vac with a hose and bottle rig to suck up about 200 workers. a solution of laundry detergent and water was added to the bees, mixed well, and then they were strained through a colander with honey mesh underneath and rinsed well. we didn't find any mites at all on the mesh that way. they apply the napkins about every 21 days, after they work the hives. your bees have to have good housecleaning tendencies, or else they won't remove the napkins and they won't spread the oil. plus, the oil can turn rancid, if it sits too long. [one of the demonstration hives had recently swarmed, and the napkins from the previous application were still intact.] i prefer my method because i know i'm getting complete coverage, i can minimize the 'wet bee' look, and i don't have to worry about the napkins not being removed or the oil turning rancid. it's more labor intensive and mineral oil is more expensive than vegetable oil, but i only have one hive, so it's not a big deal for me. one alternative would be to combine the two methods and use napkins soaked in mineral oil. that would be fast and easy, and there'd be no danger of the oil going bad. hope this helps, bill ######################################## don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player greenros@medicalmedia.com [work] bill.greenrose@valley.net [home] http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 Article 9097 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: kenm@wn.com.au (Ken Morris) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Granulated honey Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 01:50:07 GMT Organization: Hillgrove Farm Honey Reply-To: kenm@wn.com.au Message-ID: <33d9575a.1604194@news.wn.com.au> References: <01bc9347$8cbba4c0$LocalHost@dtorvtwg> <33D90D8F.3AFD@concentric.net> <33d9552e.1047804@news.wn.com.au> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp30.wn.com.au Lines: 25 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.IAEhv.nl!news.oru.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nac!news.kcdata.com!dhcp30.wn.com.au Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9097 On Sat, 26 Jul 1997 01:42:56 GMT, kenm@wn.com.au (Ken Morris) wrote: > I agree with Chris, but would add that I got a tip from an old >beekeeper friend who has kept bees for 50+ years; try dipping the >granulated honey supers in water. Hold them the right way up and redip >them every day or so, depending on temperature. The water stays in the >clls and speeds up the bees' reprocessing of the honey by a factor of >3-4 times. Hope this helps! >Regards, >Ken Morris >Hillgrove Farm Honey, Batavia Coast, Western Australia >http://www.wn.com.au/gol/members/kenm/index.htm >Australia/New Zealand Distributor of BiData Beekeeping Software > Sorry about that folks, I should have said "dipping the granulated honey FRAMES in water" Regards, Ken Morris Hillgrove Farm Honey, Batavia Coast, Western Australia http://www.wn.com.au/gol/members/kenm/index.htm Australia/New Zealand Distributor of BiData Beekeeping Software Article 9098 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: kenm@wn.com.au (Ken Morris) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Granulated honey Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 01:42:56 GMT Organization: Hillgrove Farm Honey Reply-To: kenm@wn.com.au Message-ID: <33d9552e.1047804@news.wn.com.au> References: <01bc9347$8cbba4c0$LocalHost@dtorvtwg> <33D90D8F.3AFD@concentric.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp30.wn.com.au Lines: 51 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nac!news.kcdata.com!dhcp30.wn.com.au Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9098 On Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:33:19 -0400, Chris Kueny wrote: >Paul Bowden wrote: >> >> I am a newish beekeeper (and even newer Internet user!), keeping 5 colonies >> in British National hives in my garden in a village in the East Midlands. >> The principal local early honey source is oilseed rape. Because of foul >> weather (nearly four weeks of steady rain and low temperatures) just after >> the bees had worked this, I was unable to take this honey off and it has >> now granulated - I have 2-3 supers of granulated honey in each hive. >> I would like to know what to do with this: if it is left, can the bees >> make any use of it or should it be removed and....? >> Any advice very welcome. >> >> Thank you >> Paul Bowden > >I assume this is Canola (Canada oil low acid) which is the same rapeseed >we are just starting to cultivate here in South Carolina. We plant in >the fall and have flowers in early spring. We put several hundred hives >in canola and reaped the earliest honey crop in SC history, I think, but >fought all the way with granulation. Some granulated in the comb before >even being capped. We did find, however, that supers stacked crosswise, >in hot sun, would be cleaned out by our bees. What wouldn't extract >(over 50% by weight) was cleaned out by honey bees and bumble bees in >time for us to use the same supers for our July honey flow. I believe >that you would have to take the supers off the bees in order for them to >get cleaned out. Do not attempt to use these supers for winter food. >It won't work. Stacking crosswise allows a little rain to get in the >comb, helping the bees, we think. (We also found that granulated Canola >honey in jars could be re-liquified in full exposure to hot sun and >would be much less prone to re-granulate.) Hope this helps. >Chris Kueny >congaree@concentric.net Hello Paul, I agree with Chris, but would add that I got a tip from an old beekeeper friend who has kept bees for 50+ years; try dipping the granulated honey supers in water. Hold them the right way up and redip them every day or so, depending on temperature. The water stays in the clls and speeds up the bees' reprocessing of the honey by a factor of 3-4 times. Hope this helps! Regards, Ken Morris Hillgrove Farm Honey, Batavia Coast, Western Australia http://www.wn.com.au/gol/members/kenm/index.htm Australia/New Zealand Distributor of BiData Beekeeping Software Article 9099 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: beecrofter@aol.com (BeeCrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queen excluders, can they be too small? Follow-up Date: 26 Jul 1997 14:45:18 GMT Lines: 11 Message-ID: <19970726144501.KAA20837@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <33D91D95.41C6@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9099 I am just a hobbiest but the only time I use an excluder is when there is brood already in the honey supers and I would like them to hatch out and be replaced with honey. Just make sure the queen is below the excluder when you install it. Might have to use them for comb honey production and some folks think snow white comb that never had brood is pretty immune to wax moths. I just sort my comb for storage and put all the dark ones together and check them twice as often in the off season as the snow white ones. 24 hives in CT rain may bring some flow back as the drought here sure slowed things down. Tom Article 9100 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: amazonut@ix.netcom.com(Arnold Galina) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Beeswax sources-New England area??? Date: 26 Jul 1997 12:18:37 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5rcput$1jr@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> References: <19970726010400.VAA01753@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bos-ma7-09.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Jul 26 7:18:37 AM CDT 1997 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9100 Not quite sure this is the correct place for this posting. I am looking for a wholesale source of beeswax in the New England area, or even possibly New York area. Thanks a bunch. Arnie Galina CANDLECHEM COMPANY Article 9101 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!gatech!purdue!news.bu.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!not-for-mail From: bill greenrose Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Fraudulent E-mail Info Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 12:30:08 -0400 Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Lines: 60 Message-ID: <33DA2610.AD3A804A@valley.net> References: <33CC46AB.74209A65@valley.net> <33D4C71B.520D@East.Sun.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: v2-p-103.valley.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9101 Brian M. Boerner wrote: > > > > today i called the number collect. to make a long story short[er], > it > > turned out that the company at that number had no idea what i was > > talking about, they did not do electronic transactions [adult or > > otherwise], and they had no idea why people kept calling the number > to > > ask about similar e-mails. my guess is that someone was very p*ssed > at > > 'bruce' or someone else at that company, and decided to take revenge > by > > sending many such bogus e-mails, triggering a flood of collect calls > to > > the company. actually, a pretty slick, if somewhat perverse, kind > of > > revenge. > > > > It sounds to me like the mailing address has been spoofed. If you > view > the full headers on the email address, it may give you some clue as to > > where it is coming from. If you have access to a UNIX box, you can > nslookup the host and at least find out some basic information > regarding > the message. Perhaps a reply to postmaster of the ISP of the person > sending these types of mailings would help. I deliberatly change my > email address that I post to newsgroups from to avoid this. If you > wanna send the email to me (must have full headers) I wouldnt mind > doing > a little leg work for you. > > Brian > > -- > ************************************************* > * Brian M. Boerner * > * Sun Microsystems, Inc. * > * brian.boerner@East.Sun.COM * > ************************************************* > Sun Microsystems, Inc. is NOT Responsible for the > Opinions Expressed by myself, Brian M. Boerner. hi brian, tried to email a reply directly to you but it was returned as undeliverable. is your email address 'spamproofed'? bill ######################################## don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player greenros@medicalmedia.com [work] bill.greenrose@valley.net [home] http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 Article 9102 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!gatech!purdue!news.bu.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!not-for-mail From: bill greenrose Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Anyone Recomend a Good Beekeeping Book? Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 12:32:16 -0400 Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Lines: 173 Message-ID: <33DA2690.CFB3488A@valley.net> References: <33D4CADD.72CC@Eng.Sun.COM> <33D9013B.19AD@ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: v2-p-103.valley.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------20BC4BF1DAAE0808875239A3" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9102 --------------20BC4BF1DAAE0808875239A3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Al Welk wrote: > Brian, I like "BeeKeeping - A complete Owner's Manual" by Werner > Melzer. Published by Barron's ISBN 0-8120-4089-9. Also "Hive > Management - A seasonal Guide for Beekeepers" by Richard E. Bonney, > published by Garden Way Publishing, ISBN0-88266-637-1. There are two > other books that are standards in the industry, " The Hive and the > Honey > Bee" and "The A,B,C's and X something like that. Those books are a bit more $40-$50ish and can be > > very technical. Here are my links for Bee and Honey WWW pages: > http://www.suebee.com/ > http://www.birkey.com/BLB/Beekeeping/index.html > http://www.nhb.org/honey/ > http://pw2.netcom.com/~griffes/beelink1.html > http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html > http://quotes.galt.com/cgi-bin/port > http://www.ifas.ufl.edu/~mts/apishtm/apis.htm > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Beekeeping/ > > These are not hot links, (I don't know how to bring them all over as > hot > except as one at a time. > The best sourse of information is a local beekeepings club and find a > beekeeper and watch him/her closely. > Best of luck Al Welk > Brian M. Boerner wrote: > > > > I have been interested in Beekeeping for sometime now, and have > recently > > aquired some used equipment. I have read some of the FAQs, though > they > > seem a bit out of date. If anyone could provide me with some > general > > pointers to some WWW sites, that would be fine. Also, any > > recomendations as to where to start would be excellent as well. If > > anyone knows of a great "handbook" for beginers, it would be great > to > > have: > > Title: > > Author: > > ISBN #: > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you all. > > > > Brian > > > > p.s. Email header is modified, you may have to change the Eng to > East. > > > > Brian > > > > -- > > ************************************************* > > * Brian M. Boerner * > > * Sun Microsystems, Inc. * > > * brian.boerner@East.Sun.COM * > > ************************************************* > > Sun Microsystems, Inc. is NOT Responsible for the > > Opinions Expressed by myself, Brian M. Boerner. hi, al. fyi, all your links were hot with ms outlook. bill ######################################## don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player greenros@medicalmedia.com [work] bill.greenrose@valley.net [home] http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 --------------20BC4BF1DAAE0808875239A3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Al Welk wrote:

Brian, I like "BeeKeeping - A complete Owner's Manual" by Werner
Melzer.  Published by Barron's ISBN 0-8120-4089-9.  Also "Hive
Management - A seasonal Guide for Beekeepers" by Richard E. Bonney,
published by Garden Way Publishing, ISBN0-88266-637-1.  There are two
other books that are standards in the industry, " The Hive and the Honey
Bee" and "The A,B,C's and X<Y,Z's of ...Beekeepering of Honeybees"
something like that.  Those books are a bit more $40-$50ish and can be
very technical.  Here are my links for Bee and Honey WWW pages:
http://www.suebee.com/
http://www.birkey.com/BLB/Beekeeping/index.html
http://www.nhb.org/honey/
http://pw2.netcom.com/~griffes/beelink1.html
http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html
http://quotes.galt.com/cgi-bin/port
http://www.ifas.ufl.edu/~mts/apishtm/apis.htm
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Beekeeping/

These are not hot links, (I don't know how to bring them all over as hot
except as one at a time.
The best sourse of information is a local beekeepings club and find a
beekeeper and watch him/her closely.
Best of luck  Al Welk
Brian M. Boerner wrote:
>
> I have been interested in Beekeeping for sometime now, and have recently
> aquired some used equipment.  I have read some of the FAQs, though they
> seem a bit out of date.  If anyone could provide me with some general
> pointers to some WWW sites, that would be fine.  Also, any
> recomendations as to where to start would be excellent as well.  If
> anyone knows of a great "handbook" for beginers, it would be great to
> have:
> Title:
> Author:
> ISBN #:
>
> Looking forward to hearing from you all.
>
> Brian
>
> p.s. Email header is modified, you may have to change the Eng to East.
>
> Brian
>
> --
>         *************************************************
>         *               Brian M. Boerner                *
>         *               Sun Microsystems, Inc.          *
>         *               brian.boerner@East.Sun.COM      *
>         *************************************************
>         Sun Microsystems, Inc. is NOT Responsible for the
>         Opinions Expressed by myself, Brian M. Boerner.

 hi, al.

fyi, all your links were hot with ms outlook.

bill

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http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 --------------20BC4BF1DAAE0808875239A3-- Article 9103 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!gatech!purdue!news.bu.edu!ppp-82-18.bu.edu!user From: iraseski@xensei.com (Ira Seskin) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Beeswax sources-New England area??? Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 13:33:19 -0500 Organization: ira_seskin@bmugbos.org Lines: 57 Message-ID: References: <19970726010400.VAA01753@ladder01.news.aol.com> <5rcput$1jr@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-82-18.bu.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9103 In article <5rcput$1jr@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>, amazonut@ix.netcom.com(Arnold Galina) wrote: > Not quite sure this is the correct place for this posting. I am > looking for a wholesale source of beeswax in the New England area, or > even possibly New York area. Thanks a bunch. There is a large wax company in South Boston, where I have bought bees wax to coat unwaxed plastic frames earlier this spring. The name is: Polygon Corp. 200 W Second Ave South Boston Phone: 617-268-4455 or 1-800-287-4455 Hope this helps. -I- -- _ /_/_ .'''. =O(_)))) ...' `. \_\ `. .'''B'zzzzzzzzzzz `..' /| __ / | ,-~ / Y :| // / | jj /( .^ >-"~"-v" / Y jo o | ( ~T~ j >._-' _./ / "~" | I AM HAVING A Y _, | BAD /| ;-"~ _ l HARE DAY / l/ ,-"~ \ \//\/ .- \ Y / Y* l I ! ]\ _\ /"\ (" ~----( ~ Y. ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ->Bugs the Wonder Bunny<- Ira_seskin@bmugbos.org for e-mail, but NO attachments iraseski@xensei.com for e-mail WITH attachments "Live Free or Die" Article 9104 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!gatech!purdue!news.bu.edu!ppp-82-18.bu.edu!user From: iraseski@xensei.com (Ira Seskin) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: advice pleaseee! Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 13:25:57 -0500 Organization: ira_seskin@bmugbos.org Lines: 86 Message-ID: References: <19970725194601.PAA11791@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-82-18.bu.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9104 In article <19970725194601.PAA11791@ladder01.news.aol.com>, nilamda@aol.com (NILAMDA) wrote: > Hi Ira > > If you remember I predicted this would happen. You called it!!! You wrote the script! > BTW why two brood chambers if there's no brood? Before the original swarm, I had one chamber full of honey, and one chamber full of brood/pollen/eggs etc. Around here, one needs a full " food chamber" by fall, which was just about full when they swarmed. I had already started supering above the two hive bodies when all this happened. > > AND yet again BTW How long do you think a colony keeps a Buckfast Q. Do > your virgins get mated with Buckfast drones ???????????? Really?? My bee teacher swears by them , not at them. He has 14 hives of them. I have no experience with other breeds, but was told Buckfasts are gentle and the Q's are good egg layers. Before the swarming, I could easily testify to both these qualities. I never asked about how prone to swarming they are :-( Why dont you ppl in the UK like them? As for as $ goes, they are the most expensive I have seen in the catalogs. What seems to be the problem with a Buckfast Q and Drone mate.. or is there a tendancy for these bees to swarm? I'm a nawbie at all this so I have none to compare to. Please share with me what you know about Buckfasts, and don't like about them. The final page of all this bee postings is just about over. This morning, after talking to the Bee Inspector, I joined the hives ( newspaper method). We are havng a few coo days, followed by a big warm up. So this was the time. All went well, and there are only a few bees "lost" and hanging out where the old hive once stood. On the bottom board.. tucked in a corner.. guess what I found??? Another Q Cell. Not hatched. I left that board there so the bees won't be lonely. I suppose that she will hatch soon, and take them to a new, better home. Anyone in the BOston area who wants this Buckfast Q, can e-mail me and they can have it! > I suppose you know Br Adam died last year. He was an Expert Beekeeper and > a very good salesman. You should see the stuff they sell at Buckfast > Abbey. Some day I will... wife wants to go back the UK where she went to college. Me... I just want to ride through the chunnel, but not set foot on French soil. That's off topic .. and for another time :-) -- _ /_/_ .'''. =O(_)))) ...' `. \_\ `. .'''B'zzzzzzzzzzz `..' /| __ / | ,-~ / Y :| // / | jj /( .^ >-"~"-v" / Y jo o | ( ~T~ j >._-' _./ / "~" | I AM HAVING A Y _, | BAD /| ;-"~ _ l HARE DAY / l/ ,-"~ \ \//\/ .- \ Y / Y* l I ! ]\ _\ /"\ (" ~----( ~ Y. ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ->Bugs the Wonder Bunny<- Ira_seskin@bmugbos.org for e-mail, but NO attachments iraseski@xensei.com for e-mail WITH attachments "Live Free or Die" Article 9105 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Sharon Ross" Subject: Need info on bee-related crop yield gains Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Message-ID: <022cb76d$93dedfa0$6dfc2581@default> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.37.252.109 Date: 26 Jul 97 18:54:25 GMT Lines: 10 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsm.ibm.net!ibm.net!news2.ibm.net!129.37.252.109 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9105 II'm a magazine writer putting together an article on bees for a publication that goes to soybean and cotton farmers. Can anyone point me to academic studies that show what kinds of yield gains might be possible with bee hives around fields? My e-mail address is: Lksouth@ibm.net. Thanks, Owen Taylor Mississippi Article 9106 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!169.207.30.81!newsfeeds.sol.net!mr.net!news.netins.net!not-for-mail From: drox Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Protecting honey Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 19:38:07 -0500 Organization: Malfunction Junction Lines: 24 Message-ID: <33DA986E.42546F54@hotmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: desm-28-01.dialup.netins.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9106 I recently took some frames of honey from my bees' hive (the lower portion, where they nest) and replaced them with frames of foundation. My intention is to combine these frames in a deep super with other full frames of honey (which I was given because they've been treated and are not fit for human use) and give them to my bees this winter as extra food. I didn't have a full ten frames, hence the stealing now. What I'm wondering (besides wondering whether this is a good idea at all) is what I must now do to protect these frames from wax moths. Freezing them would be problematic, due to limited space in the freezer. Moth-proofing pesticides are worrisome because I fear harming the bees (unfounded?). Just leaving the honey on the hive is bothersome due to the fact that it's already hard enough getting supers down without adding that much extra height (if the height were due to that many more supers I wouldn't be complaining!) Anyway, what do y'all suggest I do to keep this honey safe from moths? BTW don't believe anyone who tells you that a queen won't walk across honey. I went to show one of these frames (before removing bees) to a curious friend who had come out to the yard to see what I did there, and there she was, calmly walking along on a frame of nothing but honey. -Drox Article 9107 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!news.cc.utah.edu!not-for-mail From: Lin Richardson Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Yellow Jacket Problem Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 08:53:25 -0600 Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Lines: 24 Message-ID: <33D8BDE5.6B20620B@m.cc.utah.edu> References: <01bc9566$f2922c80$aa0deecd@bern> <33D27634.3FDD@Birkey.Com> <5r43jh$eis$1@news.istar.ca> <33e1a1b7.21330618@news.avana.net> Reply-To: lin.richardson@m.cc.utah.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: ctsasync33.cc.utah.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; U) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9107 Vandy Terre wrote: > On 23 Jul 1997 05:08:01 GMT, billfern@istar.ca (bill fernihough) > wrote: > > >Since its in the ground, pour about ounce of gasoline into the area. > The fumes > >will congeal their blood. Absolutely don't do this anywhere else. > > > > Rubbing alcohol will do the same thing with far less danger. Just > make sure that no animal or child tries to drink the stuff. > > Yellow jacket nests in areas not used by humans should be left alone. > Those yellow jackets are part of the natural garbage disposal system. > They eat spoiling meat from dead animals and flys. > > Vandy Terre > vandy@avana.net > Georgia, USA Yeah! And ease up on those pesky roaches while you're at it! Hate to see wrongful extinction just waiting to happen... Article 9108 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ix.netcom.com!news From: "Jack Griffes" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Protecting honey Date: 27 Jul 1997 02:13:25 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 76 Message-ID: <01bc9a35$abf90860$578cb8cd@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> References: <33DA986E.42546F54@hotmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tol-oh2-23.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Jul 26 7:13:25 PM PDT 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9108 drox wrote in article <33DA986E.42546F54@hotmail.com>... > I recently took some frames of honey from my bees' hive (the lower > portion, where they nest) and replaced them with frames of foundation. > My intention is to combine these frames in a deep super with other full > frames of honey (which I was given because they've been treated and are > not fit for human use) and give them to my bees this winter as extra > food. I didn't have a full ten frames, hence the stealing now. > > What I'm wondering (besides wondering whether this is a good idea at > all) is what I must now do to protect these frames from wax moths. > Freezing them would be problematic, due to limited space in the > freezer. >Moth-proofing pesticides are worrisome because I fear harming > the bees (unfounded?). Consider your worry about moth-proofing insecticides founded. >Just leaving the honey on the hive is bothersome > due to the fact that it's already hard enough getting supers down > without adding that much extra height (if the height were due to that > many more supers I wouldn't be complaining!) Anyway, what do y'all > suggest I do to keep this honey safe from moths? It may be a bother but letting the bees protect it is what appears to be your best option. Additionally getting it set right into the position you wish it to occupy for the winter would be wise. > BTW don't believe anyone who tells you that a queen won't walk across > honey. Correct. Good queens will go wherever they need to to find opens cells to lay in and they will skeedaddle over lots of honey if there is open drone cells upstairs somewhere and it is approaching swarm season or in the midst of it. >I went to show one of these frames (before removing bees) to a > curious friend who had come out to the yard to see what I did there, and > there she was, calmly walking along on a frame of nothing but honey. Seen the same thing quite a few times myself. -- Jack Griffes Honeybee Improvement Program Ottawa Lake, MI USA e-mail: Griffes at ix.netcom.com Web site: http://pw2.netcom.com/~griffes/ "Always be nice to other people, they outnumber you 5.5 billion to 1..." - Steve White! " Article 9109 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ix.netcom.com!news From: "Jack Griffes" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Br. Adam/Buckfast/bee breeding (was:advice pleaseee!) Date: 27 Jul 1997 02:28:13 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 50 Message-ID: <01bc9a37$bddeb820$578cb8cd@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> References: <19970725194601.PAA11791@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tol-oh2-23.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Jul 26 7:28:13 PM PDT 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9109 Tom Speight wrote in article ... > In article <19970725194601.PAA11791@ladder01.news.aol.com>, NILAMDA > writes > >Do > >your virgins get mated with Buckfast drones ???????????? > No. And the crosses can be vicious, depending on the drone. Mating control is critical - a point Brother Adam consistently hammered on. Lacking mating control then ya need to find something that crosses well on the drones flying in your area if you use virgins or cells to requeen with. Certain racial crosses or even strain crosses within a race can be vicious. It has zippo nothing to do with them being Buckfast or not. We have used and tested Buckfast stock here and I assure you it is one of the VERY few bee stocks I recomend to Northern folks if we are not able to provide them with our own HIP bee stock. > >I suppose you know Br Adam died last year. He was an Expert Beekeeper Indeed he was and an expert bee breeder as well. Once you try your hand at doing something similar to what he did you gain an extra measure of respect for the man - more fully realizing just how far he got when you actually have a decent idea of the problems the project of combination breeding is fraught with. He never claimed to reach his goal of breeding "the perfect bee" (for his area) but he sure did breed a dandy one with a lot of expressed potential and still enough buried potential to improve it further. My hat is off to him. -- Jack Griffes Honeybee Improvement Program Ottawa Lake, MI USA e-mail: Griffes at ix.netcom.com Web site: http://pw2.netcom.com/~griffes/ "Always be nice to other people, they outnumber you 5.5 billion to 1..." - Steve White! " Article 9110 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: nilamda@aol.com (NILAMDA) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: advice pleaseee! Date: 27 Jul 1997 10:32:13 GMT Lines: 5 Message-ID: <19970727103201.GAA09127@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: Organization: AOL, http://www.aol.co.uk X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9110 SO YOU MERGED THEM. NOW WE'LL NEVER KNOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tony Malin RUGBY UK Article 9111 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!infeed2.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!203.108.7.42!uunet1.feed.news.ozemail.net!OzEmail-In!news From: NICHOLAS GODDARD Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Finding a Queen Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:15:04 +1100 Organization: Pre-installed Company Lines: 12 Message-ID: <33DB2DB8.1957@ozemail.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.108.19.198 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9111 I am soon to re-queen three very angry hives (thus the need tp re-queen). I have cut the hives down to 2 supers, with a queen excluder in between, so I can at least isolate her to one of the two boxes on each hive. Any suggesttions on ways to easily (and quickly) find the queen in amongst some very angry bees, once I have located the appropriate super ??? Nick- NSW, Australia. Article 9112 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: beecrofter@aol.com (BeeCrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Finding a Queen Date: 27 Jul 1997 16:12:21 GMT Lines: 23 Message-ID: <19970727161201.MAA20985@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <33DB2DB8.1957@ozemail.com.au> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9112 In article <33DB2DB8.1957@ozemail.com.au>, NICHOLAS GODDARD writes: >Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:15:04 +1100 > >I am soon to re-queen three very angry hives (thus the need tp >re-queen). > >I have cut the hives down to 2 supers, with a queen excluder in between, >so I can at least isolate her to one of the two boxes on each hive. > >Any suggesttions on ways to easily (and quickly) find the queen in >amongst some very angry bees, once I have located the appropriate super >??? > >Nick- NSW, Australia. > > > Move the hive you are inspecting away by about 30 feet or more a lot of the bees will mill about where it usta was. Leaving less to sting you . Article 9113 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!infeed2.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!newstf02.news.aol.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hdsearcher@aol.com (HDsearcher) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Yellow Jacket Problem Date: 27 Jul 1997 16:29:03 GMT Lines: 9 Message-ID: <19970727162901.MAA05769@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <33D8BDE5.6B20620B@m.cc.utah.edu> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9113 The extinction of roaches? I hardly think this is possible! A man searching for knowledge is always looking for something! (except directions) Article 9114 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!not-for-mail From: moser@ils.unc.edu (Robin M. Shapiro) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Master Beekeeper Date: 27 Jul 1997 18:02:41 GMT Organization: Information & Library Science, UNC-CH Lines: 46 Message-ID: <5rg2g1$959$2@fddinewz.oit.unc.edu> References: <01bc9522$2b7beda0$62a392cf@default> <33d83d98.6948287@news1.radix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ruby.ils.unc.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9114 : > How does one become : >a Master Beekeeper? Is it a state by state accreditation?(ie. are the : >requirements the same in NC as in IL or WA?) Is it earned OJT or in the : >classroom? These are just a few of my questions. Perhaps someone can point : >me to a reference on the subject. Thanks! : > : >Steve Davison Steve -- This does vary state-by-state. Here in North Carolina, there's a four-step program. First, there's a Certified Beekeeper level -- three evenings of classes (9 hours total) then a written exam and a very simple practical (identifying parts of the hive, workers, drones, queens, different types of brood, using a smoker, etc.) Next, after two years' experience and 5 units of volunteer service, you can take the Journeyman Beekeeper exams -- on the practical you would "demonstrate competence in selected beekeeping specialities." Master Beekeepers have a minimum of 3 years' experience, 10 units of public service, a written exam and a practical in which they "demonstrate excellence in selected beekeeping specialities." Master Craftsman Beekeepers -- I don't think there are more than 6 in the state, as this level was added just a year or two ago -- have 2 years' experience as a Master Beekeeper, present a program at a state bee meeting, take an oral exam comparable to the oral for an MS at the state university, participate in a research project sponsored by NC State Univ., take a practical exam demonstrating excellence in at least 7 specialty beekeeping areas, and earn 15 units of public service. This is a 5-year title, and can be renewed if an individual requalifies. If you're interested in the North Carolina program, any NC Extension Agent should be able to get you a copy of Insect Notes #17, which is the complete description. As of last year, over 2000 people were involved at some level -- my husband and I took the Certified Beekeeper exams this summer, and hope to have a couple of colonies next year. Hope this was what you wanted to know! Robin M. Shapiro | "Our memories are card-indexes consulted, | and then put back in disorder by moser@ils.unc.edu | authorities whom we do not control." | -- Cyril Connolly -- Article 9115 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!infeed2.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!204.71.16.13!newsfeed.sover.net!not-for-mail From: "Samuel E. Allen" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: queen activity Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 14:11:24 -0400 Organization: SoVerNet, Inc. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <33DB8F4B.C28C7542@sover.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm0a20.mid.sover.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9115 Have any studies been done showing how hive temperature affects queen activity, brood-laying, etc. thanks, -Sam Allen -- ******************************* Samuel E. Allen Associates www.beecool.com ******************************* Article 9116 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!newstf02.news.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: mlmcbs@aol.com (MLMCBS) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: new bee keepers in Iowa Date: 27 Jul 1997 21:13:18 GMT Lines: 3 Message-ID: <19970727211300.RAA23551@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9116 i would like to hear from new bee keepers as well as old drones about starting a new colony here in northeast iowa. Let's get buzzing. Article 9117 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!infeed2.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!newstf02.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pstrec@aol.com (PStrec) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Anyone Recomend a Good Beekeeping Book? Date: 27 Jul 1997 22:38:28 GMT Lines: 3 Message-ID: <19970727223800.SAA15272@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <33D4CADD.72CC@Eng.Sun.COM> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9117 The best book for beginners is Richard Taylor's HOW TO DO IT. It is published by A.I.Root Company, Medina, Ohio 44256 Article 9118 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!infeed2.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.pe.net!ns From: amschelp@pe.net (Peter Amschel) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: bees forage on ripe grapes Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 23:03:48 GMT Organization: PE.net - Internet access from the Press-Enterprise Company Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5rgjua$e16$1@nntp.pe.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lasierra.pe.net NNTP-Posting-User: amschelp X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9118 We have used all we want of the seedless grapes on this one grape vine at my house. We started a batch of wine with some of these grapes and we ate our fill of them off the vine. The grape vine is one of the vines which grows on our trellis on the patio. After our harvest, there began to be many bee-sized wasps that began foraging on the many warm, juicy, overripe grapes that remain on the vine, but now I have noticed that numbers of bees from my heavily populated top bar hive are starting to forage on these overripe, warm and juicy seedless grapes as these grapes are bursting open in the heat of the day, as they become overripe. I can easily identify these as my young bees, of course, from their especially pretty, golden and dark color patterns that they have. Do you think I should terminate this activity? It would seem to me, and please correct me if this not so, that for them to forage for this grape juice is below standard, (although these grapes are very fine and sweet), in comparison with their usual work of foraging for nectar. 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Follow-up Date: 28 Jul 1997 00:35:39 GMT Organization: Your Organization Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5rgpgr$h9s$1@news.istar.ca> References: <33BBAE0C.41C6@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu> <33CE20B8.41C6@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu> <5r8fbs$op0$1@netnews.upenn.edu> <33D91D95.41C6@emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts7-10.vcr.istar.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (x86 32bit) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9120 Sounds like you are doing pretty good for a beginner. If the bees have filled the bottom two supers with honey or at least the non brood bearing frames, you will probably find enough there to get you through the winter. Harvest the rest. Article 9121 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: "Jack Griffes" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Finding a Queen Date: 27 Jul 1997 23:13:40 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 61 Message-ID: <01bc9ae5$b0c94520$2b8cb8cd@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> References: <33DB2DB8.1957@ozemail.com.au> <19970727161201.MAA20985@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tol-oh1-11.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Jul 27 6:13:40 PM CDT 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9121 BeeCrofter wrote in article <19970727161201.MAA20985@ladder01.news.aol.com>... > In article <33DB2DB8.1957@ozemail.com.au>, NICHOLAS GODDARD > writes: > > >Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:15:04 +1100 > > > >I am soon to re-queen three very angry hives (thus the need tp > >re-queen). > > > >I have cut the hives down to 2 supers, with a queen excluder in between, > >so I can at least isolate her to one of the two boxes on each hive. > > > >Any suggesttions on ways to easily (and quickly) find the queen in > >amongst some very angry bees, once I have located the appropriate super > >??? > > > >Nick- NSW, Australia. > > > > > > > > Move the hive you are inspecting away by about 30 feet or more > a lot of the bees will mill about where it usta was. > Leaving less to sting you . Make sure ya leave 'em a box setting there so they don't go looking for their actual hive which you have moved off a ways. Then also bring along another empty box and as you make the first pass through the box with eggs (one where queen is) take and set all the frames in pairs (two frames snugged up tight - then open space for light to get in - then two frames snugged up tight - you get the idea) - if ya miss her on the first pass you thus make the second pass easier - when ya pull out one of a pair ya look at what had been the dark (in middle of pair) side of the frame you are leaving in the box FIRST - then if'n she ain't there ya look quickly on what had been the inside (dark side) of the frame in your hands. Continue until ya find her. Best wishes, -- Jack Griffes Ottawa Lake, MI USA e-mail: Griffes at ix.netcom.com Web site: http://pw2.netcom.com/~griffes/ "Always be nice to other people, they outnumber you 5.5 billion to 1..." - Steve White! " Article 9122 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!bcarh189.bnr.ca!bmerhc5e.bnr.ca!bcrkh13.bnr.ca!news From: Adrian Kyte Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Anyone Recomend a Good Beekeeping Book? Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 08:55:03 +0100 Organization: Bell Northern Research Lines: 31 Message-ID: <33DC5057.49FD@nt.com> References: <33D4CADD.72CC@Eng.Sun.COM> <33D9013B.19AD@ibm.net> <33DA2690.CFB3488A@valley.net> Reply-To: adrian.kyte.delete_this@nt.com NNTP-Posting-Host: dpaii11.bnr.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9122 bill greenrose wrote: > > Here are my links for Bee and Honey WWW > pages: > http://www.suebee.com/ > http://www.birkey.com/BLB/Beekeeping/index.html > http://www.nhb.org/honey/ > http://pw2.netcom.com/~griffes/beelink1.html > http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html > http://quotes.galt.com/cgi-bin/port > http://www.ifas.ufl.edu/~mts/apishtm/apis.htm > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Beekeeping/ > > These are not hot links, (I don't know how to bring them all > over as hot > except as one at a time. > > hi, al. > > fyi, all your links were hot with ms outlook. > > bill > all hot on Netscape 3.0 -- Regards Adrian :-{)} Any statements made or opinions expressed are my own and not my employers. Adrian.Kyte.delete_this.3310836@nortel.com [work] beeman.delete_this@enterprise.net [home] Article 9123 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!bcarh189.bnr.ca!bmerhc5e.bnr.ca!bcrkh13.bnr.ca!news From: Adrian Kyte Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Finding a Queen Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:46:45 +0100 Organization: Bell Northern Research Lines: 55 Message-ID: <33DC5C75.28D2@nt.com> References: <33DB2DB8.1957@ozemail.com.au> Reply-To: adrian.kyte.delete_this@nt.com NNTP-Posting-Host: dpaii11.bnr.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9123 NICHOLAS GODDARD wrote: > > I am soon to re-queen three very angry hives (thus the need tp > re-queen). > > I have cut the hives down to 2 supers, with a queen excluder in between, > so I can at least isolate her to one of the two boxes on each hive. > > Any suggesttions on ways to easily (and quickly) find the queen in > amongst some very angry bees, once I have located the appropriate super > ??? > > Nick- NSW, Australia. As a last resort you could 'seive' the bees through a Queen excluder (QE), her's what you do (and yes I have done it!): 1. at mid day on a warm sunny day move your hive about 1 meter (3 feet) to one side 2. set up an empty super or brood box on a floor on the original site with a QE between the floor and the box 3. rig up a sloping board, covered with a (preferably) white cloth from the ground to the new hive entrance (just like you do when hiving a swarm) 4. take the frames from the original hive, one at a time, and shake the ALL the bees onto the sloping board, the cloth makes the board a bit softer so they don't get headaches, and place the frame into the box. as you emtpy boxes from the original hive brush the bees in them onto the board and reuse them on the new hive. YOU MUST MAKE SURE THAT NO BEES STAY ON THE FRAMEs OR HIVE PARTS OR THE ONE BEE YOU MISS WILL BE THE QUEEN! 5. after all that labour take a break for half to one hour or at least 15 minutes longer than it takes for the bees to go into the hive. I have left it as much as half a day. 6. lift off the boxes being VERY CAREFUL not to disturb the QE and place them on a floor 7. you can move the floor and QE to a convenient location or examine them in situ. remove the QE and the Queen should be running about on the floor amonst many drones and a few workers. In my experience it's still not that easy to see the Queen but there are a lot less bees to contend with. Let us know how you get on. -- Regards Adrian :-{)} Any statements made or opinions expressed are my own and not my employers. Adrian.Kyte.delete_this.3310836@nortel.com [work] beeman.delete_this@enterprise.net [home] Article 9124 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.bu.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!kac.dartmouth.edu!kac From: kac@bunter.dartmouth.edu (Keith Cutting) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Beeswax sources-New England area??? Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 13:41:00 GMT Organization: Dartmouth College Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <19970726010400.VAA01753@ladder01.news.aol.com> <5rcput$1jr@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kac.dartmouth.edu X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9124 In article <5rcput$1jr@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> amazonut@ix.netcom.com(Arnold Galina) writes: >From: amazonut@ix.netcom.com(Arnold Galina) >Subject: Beeswax sources-New England area??? >Date: 26 Jul 1997 12:18:37 GMT >Not quite sure this is the correct place for this posting. I am >looking for a wholesale source of beeswax in the New England area, or >even possibly New York area. Thanks a bunch. > Arnie Galina > CANDLECHEM COMPANY Try Tom Wiegalmann Bradford NH bsoft@juno.com ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The Cutting Farm Warlock West Springfield, NH Wolf #3 Lurking in the shadows <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Article 9125 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!baron.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!knife.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!not-for-mail From: Morley Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: anti-Varroa strips Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 15:39:15 -0851 Organization: None. (via NETCOM Internet Ltd. USENET service). Lines: 11 Message-ID: <32DD76C3.37CD@itl.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ap215-12.itl.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9125 An experiment was conducted recently in Jersey CI whereby several hundred varroa were flown to Luddington and subjected to Bavarol treatment. 100% of them died, thus allaying fears that immunity was developing to this treatment. Jersey was chosen for this experiment as it's the only part of the British Isles where treatment of each hive with Bavarol has been mandatory for four years. It is also the only part without very significant colony losses. On another matter, experiments are being conducted this year on a few hives using thymol only, three weeks before putting in the Apistan strips. Does anyone have experience of this and its efficacy? Thanks. Morley. Article 9126 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: nilamda@aol.com (NILAMDA) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: queen activity Date: 28 Jul 1997 17:49:26 GMT Lines: 32 Message-ID: <19970728174901.NAA24229@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <33DB8F4B.C28C7542@sover.net> Organization: AOL, http://www.aol.co.uk X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9126 In article <33DB8F4B.C28C7542@sover.net>, "Samuel E. Allen" writes: >Subject: queen activity >From: "Samuel E. Allen" >Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 14:11:24 -0400 > >Have any studies been done showing how hive temperature affects queen >activity, brood-laying, etc. >thanks, -Sam Allen > I suggest you look up Chapter 3 The Bee Community (especially page 62) of Ted Hooper's book Guide to Bees and Honey. Also see Hive Temperature in Section One pages 9/10 in E B Wedmore's book A Manual of Beekeeping. Clearly he wasn't too sure if bees work in C or F and gives both. E B Wedmore C.B.E., M.I.E.E., F. Inst P., would have been well known in local beekeeping circles as he was an Electrical Engineer and Physicist and worked for a time for The British Thomson Houston Co here in Rugby, where I worked for nearly 50 years. He was President of the British Bee-keepers' Association and several other illustrious bodies. His book was first published in 1932 and extensively revised in 1945. I have a 1975 reprint. When I first started bee-keeping I relied heavily on it. In some respects his book may seem dated, for example he does not refer to multiple matings, but nevertheless one can learn a lot from it. Tony Malin ( M.I.E.E.) RUGBY UK Article 9127 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: nilamda@aol.com (NILAMDA) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Finding a Queen Date: 28 Jul 1997 17:49:24 GMT Lines: 71 Message-ID: <19970728174901.NAA10577@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <19970727161201.MAA20985@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL, http://www.aol.co.uk X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9127 Hallo Nick Stinging (bad tempered) bees don't necessarily take kindly to a new queen. Whereas the text books say "Requeen" it is not so easy. As you have realised it won't be easy to find the Q. I think that what you do will depend on how vicious they are. Do they stream out at you as you remove the roof?? If they are not too bad, do as BeeCrofter says and move them well away to reduce the number, and proceed from there. (NB He did not tell you what to put on the original stand to catch the flying bees) See pages 153 -155 of Guide to Bees & Honey by Ted Hooper headed Finding the Queen. (He says put the supers on the old stand but leaves you to deduce you will have to bring the brood box back again a little later.) One assumes you are approaching spring out there, and hives should have plenty of young reasonably docile bees. So the sooner you do something the better. The safest way to requeen is to "introduce" in a nuc. See pages 157 - 163 of the above book, where he recommends this for mid-season introduction to normally docile bees. But the same applies to bad tempered bees even more so. I suggest that first of all you make up a nuc from your good tempered bees with the new Queen, remove it from the apiary and once it is established, move the snotty hive about a foot** to one side and put the nuc onto the old stand. After a few days move the snotty one to the same distance on the othe side. You will then have picked up a lot of bees into the nuc. (Obviously the nuc needs to have been transferred to a full size brood chamber.) I think it best to do this early or late in the day. Certainly don't do it when they are flying strongly, or too many will hit the nuc at once and may kill the Queen. ** If you move it too far ALL the flying bees will go to the nuc. Whereas if you only move it a short distance a lot will go back to the parent hive. A lot depends on how and when you handle the bees, and may determine what you do next. Try to handle with minimum smoke, but if they are impossible smoke hard and shut them down. If they are OK and you find the Q you could then try introducing a new Queen. (Are you likely to have one? What do you do if you don't find the Q ??) If you still can't find her do as the man said and move them well away to lose some more flying bees. There are of course a few ways to vary this procedure, depending on circumstances. One that comes to mind is instead of putting the main colony to one side of the nuc, you could put it on top over a Snelgrove Board. But I would reduce the entrance to allow the guard bees in the nuc a reasonable chance to meet up with the incoming bees. The odd snotty hives of mine got left severely alone. Supered quickly in spring, and cleared with plenty of smoke. The yield was always good, and low and behold they returned to normal in due course. You might do well to seek help from an experienced beekeeper. A similar situation to this arises with bees that have been queenless for some time. They too are not keen to be requeened. A friend had this problem, and we put the nuc on the stand in the middle of the day and large numbers of flying bees came in pretty quickly. This was clearly a mistake. I can't remember the outcome. Sorry if you find this a bit disjointed, but it is not esy to cover every eventuality and you did not give much in the way of the history of these colonies. Best of luck. (You'll need it) Tony Malin RUGBY UK Article 9128 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!eastnews1.East.Sun.COM!walters.East.Sun.COM!usenet From: "Brian M. Boerner" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Anyone Recomend a Good Beekeeping Book? Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 15:12:53 -0400 Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 43 Message-ID: <33DCEF35.590@nospam.East.Sun.COM> References: <33D4CADD.72CC@Eng.Sun.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: fundeduty.east.sun.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4m) To: "Alyn W. Ashworth" Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9128 Would have known that had I ever been here before. Brian :) Alyn W. Ashworth wrote: > > In article <33D4CADD.72CC@Eng.Sun.COM>, "Brian M. Boerner" > writes > >I have been interested in Beekeeping for sometime now, and have recently > >aquired some used equipment. If > >anyone knows of a great "handbook" for beginers, it would be great to > >have: > Ted Hooper's "Guide to Bees and Honey" is an excellent introduction and > has been mentioned before, if I'm not mistaken. > -- > Alyn W. Ashworth > Lancashire & North-West Bee-Keepers' Association. UK. > (but I don't speak on their bee-half) > http://www.demon.co.uk/emphasys -- ********************************************************* * Brian M. Boerner * * Sun Microsystems, Inc. * * brian.boerner@nospam.East.Sun.COM * ********************************************************* Sun Microsystems, Inc. is NOT Responsible for the Opinions Expressed by myself, Brian M. Boerner. Remove the '_nospam_' from my address above to reply to me via email Now, for all you harvestbots out there, my growing wall of shame: mailto:abuse@cyberpromo.com mailto:postmaster@savetrees.com mailto:imsco@cyberpromo.com mailto:sue@quicklink.com mailto:root@usa.net mailto:info@ingress.net mailto:root@smartec.com mailto:info@c-me-live.com mailto:jann@intercall.net mailto:iii@usa.net mailto:webmaster@sexy-girls.com mailto:postmaster@precipice.com mailto:webmaster@nasty-schoolgirls.com Article 9129 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!dciteleport.com!news-out.internetmci.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pollinator@aol.com (Pollinator) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: bees forage on ripe grapes Date: 28 Jul 1997 20:01:07 GMT Lines: 48 Message-ID: <19970728200101.QAA18472@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <5rgjua$e16$1@nntp.pe.net> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9129 In article <5rgjua$e16$1@nntp.pe.net>, amschelp@pe.net (Peter Amschel) writes: >After our harvest, there began to be many >bee-sized wasps that began foraging on the many warm, juicy, overripe grapes >that remain on the vine, but now I have noticed that numbers of bees from my >heavily populated top bar hive are starting to forage on these overripe, warm > >and juicy seedless grapes as these grapes are bursting open in the heat of >the >day, as they become overripe. I can easily identify these as my young bees, >of >course, from their especially pretty, golden and dark color patterns that >they >have. > >Do you think I should terminate this activity? It would seem to me, and >please >correct me if this not so, that for them to forage for this grape juice is >below standard, (although these grapes are very fine and sweet), in >comparison with their usual work of foraging for nectar. Apparently your nectar sources are kind of lean right now, as the bees much prefer nectar. I don't think it hurts the bees; in fact it probably helps keep the hives from dwindling, to keep them busy. And do try the "honey" they make from this concentrated grape juice. I think you'll find it delicious. But don't try to winter the bees on this syrup, as it will have a lot of indigestible solids. Better to take it for yourself, or for spring feed, even if you have to winter them on sugar or corn syrup. In the Carolinas during hot, dry summers when nectar is scarce, bees will sometimese get into huckleberries, elderberries, wild grapes, or other fruit, and make the famed "blue honey" or "purple honey." Not common, but very fine. Pollinator@oal.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA Practical Pollination Page http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html Article 9130 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!209.69.36.106!oxy.rust.net!usenet From: "Dan and Brenda Athey" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Wanted: Used S.S. extractor Date: 29 Jul 1997 00:04:00 GMT Organization: Rust Net - High Speed Internet in Detroit 810-642-2276 Lines: 7 Message-ID: <01bc9bb2$45e5bfe0$447845d1@dathey.sirus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hport19.sirus.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9130 Any one have a used Stainless steel extratcor for sale? Please email me at dathey@sirus.com Thanks Dan Article 9131 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.eu.concert.net!news-peer!btnet!btnet-feed1!BTInternet!usenet From: "Peter Mutton" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Round Comb Plastic Sections Date: 30 Jul 1997 21:10:24 GMT Organization: BT Internet Lines: 6 Message-ID: <01bc9d2c$bde5b100$d73d63c3@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: host5-99-61-215.btinternet.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1157 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9131 I'd be interested to hear from any beekeeper from the UK or from continental Europe who has considered using round plastic section equipment for the production of comb honey but has been put off by the cost. A single section refill costs less than 50p in the USA; in the UK it is more than £1. Would a refill price of less than 70p make it attractive enough to use? Article 9132 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Pete Wolcott Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Moving a hive Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 16:43:40 -0700 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 60 Message-ID: <33DFD1AC.3D13@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> References: <33BE5A61.5B62@sprintmail.com> <33DE6677.25BF@concentric.net> <33DE9B9A.3701@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> <33DEC16B.FFA@concentric.net> Reply-To: PBJJJ@postoffice.worldnet.att.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.132.201 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-WorldNet (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9132 Chris Kueny wrote: > > Pete Wolcott wrote: > > > > Chris Kueny wrote: > > > > > > Howard Bowles wrote: > > > > > > > > I have recently been able to hive a swarm...I estimate about 5lbs of > > > > bees. The swarm has built up one and is currently finishing the 7th > > > > frame in a second deep super. They appear to be very productive but at > > > > the same time they are considerably more agressive than my other hives > > > > at this site. Because of their industrious nature I do not want to > > > > re-queen yet am concerned about their penchant to chase anyone who comes > > > > close to the hive. I live in a residential area where beekeeping is > > > > permitted but do not wish to push my luck. > > > > I live in the Tacoma, WA area and the weather this year has been at > > > > best, unpredictable and I am not sure when and how would be the best to > > > > move them. I have identified a location for them and the owner is > > > > anxious to have a hive on her property. I estimate about 1 hour to > > > > secure the hive, load it, then move it to its new location. > > > > Does anyone have suggestions on how to move this cantankerous hive? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > HBowles > > > > > > I would dress down real good, and move it as quickly as possible. If it > > > is too heavy to move, just break it down and reassemble it back on the > > > truck. All they can do is sting you, after all, and only once each at > > > that. > > > Chris Kueny > > Chris, > > A friend and I moved two hives from Duvall to Cle Elum. After dark we > > put > > a double screen on top under the top cover and stuffed screen into the > > entrance of each hive. We then tied each hive together with two lines > > and lifted them onto my truck. We then tied them to the end of the > > truck. > > Even with this care a few bees got out. After arriving in Cle Elum we > > set > > the bee hives off on some blocks. My friend then removed the screens, > > the > > bees boiled out. I think we should have waited longer to take the > > screens > > off. I don't think the bees liked the bumpy ride. We were glad we had > > our bee suits on. Next day the bees were busy. > > Good Luck, > > Pete > > Seattle > Pete, > We don't cover the entrances. At driving speeds, the bees stay with the > hive. They might be covering the front when we unload them, but they > are calm (unless it is raining). A little smoke before loading and > unloading goes a long way to keep the bees under control. This gives me more ideas for next time. Think I'll make a screen cover for the entrance to give them more air maybe a clamped-on porch. And I never thought about smoke as we did't open the hive. Thanks, Pete Article 9133 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!tomsp8.demon.co.uk!tom From: Tom Speight Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Law re Beekeeping in UK Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:14:33 +0100 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2sKZCIAZr83zEwom@tomsp8.demon.co.uk> References: <33de42c0.15857396@news> NNTP-Posting-Host: tomsp8.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: tomsp8.demon.co.uk [194.222.124.95] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a Lines: 27 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9133 In article <33de42c0.15857396@news>, walter Holmes writes Snip..... >I have >killed the bees in that hive, now one of the neighbours is threatening >me with legal action if I don't kill the rest, the bees in the other >two hives are quite gentle, but this neighbour is threatening to kill >the lot if I don't get rid of them. I have been keeping bees for 10 >years, long before these neighbours came to live here. HELP >Walter >Lancashire In 1990, a beekeeper in Nottinghamshire was ordered to remove his hives because they were 'spotting' a neighbours washing. Even though there were other bees in the area. From memory, I think his bees had been there even before the neighbours. In the article in the BBKA News for November 1990, refence is made to the 'Municiple Engineer Magazine' case of the 1970's, and that these two seem to have set precedents for future cases. As a branch member of BBKA, I would be tempted to do nothing. If he takes legal action, I would get the BBKA to fight the case. If he destroyed the bees, sue the b. Best of luck -- Tom Speight Article 9134 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!infeed2.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.bu.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!not-for-mail From: bill greenrose Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: MORE ON BOOKS Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:44:13 -0400 Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Lines: 101 Message-ID: <33DFDFDC.C6383782@valley.net> References: <19970729230601.TAA19121@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kip-2-138.valley.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9134 NILAMDA wrote: > My most treasured beekeeping book (and probably most valuable as an > antique) is The Practical Bee Guide -- A Manual of Modern > Beekeeping by > The Rev.J.G.Digges, M.A. (Expert, and Member of the Examining Board, > > Irish Beekeepers Association; Editor , "Irish Bee Journal".) > My copy is endorsed SECOND EDITION - NINTH THOUSAND . > > Published in 1910 it is a masterpiece of English Literature. It opens > with > the > following quotation from Shakespeare:- > > "Therefore doth heaven divide > The state of man in divers functions, > Setting endeavour to continual motion; > To which is fixed, as an aim or butt, > Obedience; for so work the honey-bees; > Creatures that by rule in nature, teach > The act of order to a peopled kingdom. > > Of the Queen he wrote:- > > The Queen is not the sovereign ruler of the bee kingdom, as her name > might > imply. > She is neither daughter, wife nor widow of a king. She is obedient > rather > than > commanding; and yet a queen in her own right; born to the purple: > pre-eminent > and distinguished above all others. ------------- Hers is the longest > > life, extending > to several years. Her very movements are queenly, the stately pace > among > her > children marking her out to the observant as distinct from the other > occupants of > the hive. ---------- Her mission is to propagate: and for that most > holy > office > nature endows her richly. --------- and this prodigious labour will > cease > only with > exhaustion of fecundity or approach of death. > > Of the Drone:- > > These are the oft maligned noisy buzzing bees - "The lazy yawning > drone" > of > Shakespeare, and the harmless butts for the gibes of modern critics. > ----------- > Theirs, also, is the sacrifice of life to duty; and such of them as > survive to the close > of autumn are driven out of the hive to end, in cold and hunger, a > life > which, if > seemingly idle or useless, was, at least, inoffensive, and full of > possibilities whose > vastness fills with awe and amazement every thinking mind. > > And of the Worker:- > > It is an utter fallacy which suggests one of the main objects of a > bee's > life, and her > greatest happiness, is to drive her sting into human flesh. ----- It > is > the exception, > and not the rule, for the sting to be used in a manner unprovoked. > Instinct teaches > the bee to employ her weapon sparingly, because the fastening of the > barbs > in the > object stung often obliges the bee to retire mutilated from the > encounter. > > There follows a glorious passage called "Fearless defence of the > Home" > and another called "A Master of Bees" which I'll save for another day > if > anyone is interested. > > Tony Malin RUGBY UK > read on, mcmalin. bill ######################################## don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player greenros@medicalmedia.com [work] bill.greenrose@valley.net [home] http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 Article 9135 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.bu.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!not-for-mail From: bill greenrose Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: brood on the outer frames Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:08:42 -0400 Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Lines: 49 Message-ID: <33DFE59A.16F0500E@valley.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: kip-2-138.valley.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9135 greetings all, unexpectedly, i have found that my queen has laid brood all the way to the last frame in my bottom deep. i have 4 full and capped frames of honey on one side [the front], and then a few frames of brood, some more honey, and the last couple of frames [10 and 11] have mostly eggs and larvae. question: should i rotate those frames to the center of the box now, or should i wait and see if the bees naturally make the adjustment? i'm inclined to think that in an active hive [and this one is very active], that brood cells will remain brood cells. but, i don't know if, as fall approaches, the slightly cooler temperature at the outer edge of the box will induce the queen to move her egg laying deeper into the box. i figure i can move 2 of the capped honey frames from one side of the box to the other and shift the frames with brood to the middle. i don't want to disturb the colony unnecessarily, but i don't want to wait too long either. i'm the guy who started with a 5 frame nuc and transferred to a D.E. hive earlier this year. initial configuration was a deep and a super, and i added the second deep a couple of weeks ago, as soon as i got it in and assembled it. i swapped 2 frames of brood from the first deep with 2 undrawn frames from the second one, when i added it, and the queen moved up into the second deep on her own. at this point i've got a packed 1st deep, the queen is actively laying both in the first deep and in the second deep [on the middle frames], which is filling rapidly with brood and honey, and i have a full super on top, which is almost capped. i've been feeding the colony heavily since the early flow ended [super is all 'natural'] to make sure they packed away enough stores, and my guess is that there was so much competition for open cells [started with foundation] that the queen had to lay eggs where she found the opportunity. in the second deep, where she has more room, she's laying a beautiful pattern. any and all advice will be greatly appreciated. thanks, bill ######################################## don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player greenros@medicalmedia.com [work] bill.greenrose@valley.net [home] http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 Article 9136 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:37:15 -0600 From: cmartel@videotron.ca Subject: Bee's nest Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Message-ID: <870323007.21989@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Jul 31 04:23:27 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 207.253.114.129 (ppp129.114.mmtl.videotron.net) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01Gold (Win95; I) X-Authenticated-Sender: cmartel@videotron.ca Lines: 12 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9136 I have a non-stopping growing nest of bees just in front of my door. Any suggestion to what to do with it, apart from killing the bees? Although winter is far, what happen with it (the nest) and with them (the bees)? Thanks Christian -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet Article 9137 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!emphasys.demon.co.uk!alyn From: "Alyn W. Ashworth" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Need help with home made extractor Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:47:43 +0100 Organization: Emphasys Computer Consultants Ltd. Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <870293893.25922@dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: emphasys.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: emphasys.demon.co.uk [158.152.242.226] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 3.03a Lines: 33 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9137 In article <870293893.25922@dejanews.com>, k-jones@ee.utah.edu writes >Hi, > >I'm interested in building a small tangential extractor. I'm pretty >good at designing things, and I think I have a handle on how I'll do >it, but I do have one question: > >Is it necessary to support the comb itself while it is being spun? When I first started, someone lent me a small three-frame tangential extractor. This had no support for the comb, and worked well, but it was very laborious. I had to load the comb one way round, then carefully extract about half the honey on the outside side, Then I had to turn all the combs through 180 degrees, carfully extract the other side, then finally turn them round again to extract the balance of the original side. As I only had a couple of supers that first year, I managed - but you wouldn't want to do ten supers that way. >Most extractors I've seen have some sort of mesh (like expanded metal) >which the comb can rest against during spinning. If I were to build >an extractor in which the wooden frame was held and supported, but >with no support for the actual comb, would this work, or would the >comb be likely to break? How much support is actually needed? From the experience mentioned above, I would expect some of the frames to collapse as the full side pressed up against the (inevitably damaged during uncapping) empty side. The best bet would be to see how the professionals do it. Best of luck! -- Alyn W. Ashworth Lancashire & North-West Bee-Keepers' Association. UK. (but I don't speak on their bee-half) http://www.demon.co.uk/emphasys Article 9138 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!nntp.upenn.edu!msunews!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!199.60.229.3!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!206.63.63.70!nwnews.wa.com!nwfocus.wa.com!nntp.alaska.net!news.matnet.com!dialup-55.matnet.com From: Shadow Newsgroups: alt.animals.foxes,alt.fan.furry,alt.pets.hamsters,rec.equestrian,alt.animals.lampreys,alt.lemmings,alt.fan.lemurs,alt.animals.felines.lions,alt.mythology.mythic-animals,alt.pets.parrots.amazons,rec.pets,talk.politics.animals,alt.pets.rabbits,alt.animals.raccoons,rec.pets.herp,sci.aquaria,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,sci.bio.ethology,sci.bio.herp,sci.bio.entomology.lepidoptera Subject: Re: $$$FAST$$$EASY$$$!!!CASH!!!$$$WORKS$$$LEGAL$$$ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:26:25 -0800 Organization: Internet Alaska Inc. 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The few dollars you may get will probably not be as much as you spend making and mailing copies of the chain letter. Chain letters don't work because the promise that all participants in a chain letter will be winners is mathematically impossible. Also, many people participate, but do not send money to the person at the top of the list. Some others create a chain letter that lists their name numerous times--in various forms with different addressee. So, in reality, all the money in a chain is going to one person. Do not be fooled if the chain letter is used to sell inexpensive reports on credit, mail order sales, mailing lists, or other topics. The primary purpose is to take your money, not to sell information. "Selling" a product does not ensure legality. Be doubly suspicious if there's a claim that the U.S. Postal Service or U.S. Postal Inspection Service has declared the letter legal. This is said only to mislead you. Neither the Postal Service nor Postal Inspectors give prior approval to any chain letter. Participating in a chain letter is a losing proposition. Turn over any chain letter you receive that asks for money or other items of value to your local postmaster or nearest Postal Inspector. Write on the mailing envelope of the letter or in a separate transmittal letter, "I received this in the mail and believe it may be illegal." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/usc18/mailfr.htm [Inspection Service Seal] United States Postal Inspection Service Mail Fraud and Misrepresentation --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Title 18, United States Code Section 1341. Frauds and swindles Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, or to sell, dispose of, loan, exchange, alter, give away, distribute, supply, or furnish or procure for unlawful use any counterfeit or spurious coin, obligation, security, or other article, or anything represented to be or intimated or held out to be such counterfeit or spurious article, for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice or attempting so to do, places in any post office or authorized depository for mail matter, any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by the Postal Service, or deposits or causes to be deposited any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by any private or commercial interstate carrier, or takes or receives therefrom, any such matter or thing, or knowingly causes to be delivered by mail or such carrier according to the direction thereon, or at the place at which it is directed to be delivered by the person to whom it is addressed, any such matter or thing, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. If the violation affects a financial institution, such person shall be fined not more than $ 1,000,000 or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both. Section 1342. Fictitious name or address Whoever, for the purpose of conducting, promoting, or carrying on by means of the Postal Service, any scheme or device mentioned in section 1341 of this title or any other unlawful business, uses or assumes, or requests to be addressed by, any fictitious, false, or assumed title, name, or address or name other than his own proper name, or takes or receives from any post office or authorized depository of mail matter, any letter, postal card, package, or other mail matter addressed to any such fictitious, false, or assumed title, name, or address, or name other than his own proper name, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. Section 1345. Injunctions against fraud (a) (1) If a person is - (A) violating or about to violate this chapter or section 287, 371 (insofar as such violation involves a conspiracy to defraud the United States or any agency thereof), or 1001 of this title; or (B) committing or about to commit a banking law violation (defined in section 3322(d) of this title), the Attorney General may commence a civil action in any Federal court to enjoin such violation. (2) If a person is alienating or disposing of property, or intends to alienate or dispose of property, obtained as a result of a banking law violation (as defined in section 3322(d) of this title) or property which is traceable to such violation, the Attorney General may commence a civil action in any Federal court - (A) to enjoin such alienation or disposition of property; or (B) for a restraining order to - (i) prohibit any person from withdrawing, transferring, removing, dissipating, or disposing of any such property or property of equivalent value; and (ii) appoint a temporary receiver to administer such restraining order. (3) A permanent or temporary injunction or restraining order shall be granted without bond. (b) The court shall proceed as soon as practicable to the hearing and determination of such an action, and may, at any time before final determination, enter such a restraining order or prohibition, or take such other action, as is warranted to prevent a continuing and substantial injury to the United States or to any person or class of persons for whose protection the action is brought. A proceeding under this section is governed by the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, except that, if an indictment has been returned against the respondent, discovery is governed by the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- P.S. The I.R.S. is also intrested in the claims made in these letters of making $50,000.00 in a couple of months (they Will want to collect TAXES) THE LETTER BELOW IS AN ILLEGAL CHAIN LETTER I LEFT IT HERE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT ONE LOOKS LIKE DO NOT RESPOND TO IT. Frank Reeno wrote: > > $$$FAST$$$EASY$$$!!!CASH!!!$$$WORKS$$$LEGAL$$$ > MORE MONEY > So you need (or want) a little (or in this case, a lot) more money. What > I'm about to tell you is an easy way to make thousands of dollars in as > little as one month. This is not a joke and is a perfectly legitimate > and > legal way to warn more money than you know what to do with. This is NOT > a > chain letter and you only need a few things. The benefits are > unbelievable, and the possibility of thousands of dollars FAR outweighs > the > risk of $5. > > WHY IT'S LEGAL > This way of obtaining money is legal because it is NOT an illegal > chain-letter pyramid scheme. It is people performing a service for other > people. Because it involves a motive and purpose for sending the money, > and is not just sending money through the mail, it is as legal as paying > anyone to be put on their mailing list. If you think for one minute that > this service is not legal, then don't risk it. Nobody is forcing you, > but > you CAN make easy money this way and it IS perfectly legal. > > WHAT IT'S GONNA COST YOU > You're gonna need 5 one-dollar bills, 5 envelopes, and 5 stamps. That's > it! So what if it doesen't work? You're out 5 dollars and 5 stamps. But > you're reading this, aren't you? And you're considering the > possibilities. > So is everyone else! At least some of the people that are reading will > participate, and the same goes for the people that receive your posting. > > WHAT'S IN IT FOR YOU > Lots of money is in it for you. Large sums of money. Tens of thousands > of > dollars. Enough to pay off all of your bills. Enough to keep you and > your > family financially safe for a while. And enough left over to put you in > the driver's seat of a new BMW in just a couple of months. AND IT REALLY > WORKS! I have several letters in front of me right now, one of which > tells > of a person who received over $42,000 in just four weeks!! > > DO THE MATH > Let's say you posted this letter, with your name at the bottom, to 200 > newsgroups, just like you're supposed to. Let's say that out of these > 200 > postings, 5 people respond (which is a low response). That's $5. Now, > those 5 people post the letter again to 200 newsgroups each. That's 1000 > MORE postings and $50. Now those new people make their contribution and > you receive $500. Then the process repeats itself again and you get > $5,000. Finally, with your name at #1, you receive $50,000. WOW! That's > $55, 000!!! > > WHAT TO DO > So you decided to risk $5 for $50,000. Good choice. Here's what to do. > > 1. Get five pieces of paper and write the words, "Add me to your mailing > list" on each. Next, wrap a $1 bill in each piece of paper (so it's not > visible when the envelope is sealed) and seal up the envelope. Address > one > envelope to each of the five people on the list, and mail them their > money. > So you just sent 5 envelopes to 5 different people with a slip of paper > saying "Add me to your mailing list" and one dollar in each envelope. > > 2. You now make a revised copy of this list, taking the name and address > beside #1 off the list, moving the name and address beside #2 to be > beside #1, moving the name and address beside #3 to be beside #2, moving > the name and address beside #4 to be beside #3, and placing your name > (or > an alias) and your address (or PO box) beside #5. So you just altered > THIS > document by moving each name up one number and adding yours at number 5. > > 3. Now post this message to 200 newsgroups. This isn't hard, since there > are 27,000. Remember, the more newsgroups you post to, the more money > you're gonna receive. You make more money for every newsgroup you post > to. > If you're not sure how to do this, just ask somebody and they'll be > happy > to help. > > WHAT NOW? > Sit back and wait on your money. It should arrive within one to two > months, gradually at first, then by the thousands within a month or so. > This is all you have to do. Thank you for your cooperation and have fun > spending your money. > > DON'T FORGET > For this to be legal, you MUST write the words "PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR > MAILING LIST." On a slip of paper inside each envelope. > > DISCLAIMER > I do not guarantee any money. I do not guarantee any replies. This > letter > is not associated with any corporation or business, just people like you > and me who could use some money. > > THE LIST > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ___________ > > #1 Bill Johnson > 31 N. Prince Street > Millersville, PA 17551 > > #2 Olaph Swensen > PO Box 1332 > Cave Junction, OR 97523 > > #3 Brad Weiner > 11445 East Cimmarron Drive > Englewood, CO 80111 > > #4 Tyrone White > 4201 S. 52nd St. > Milwaukee, WI 53220 > > #5 Frank Reeno > 4913 N. Shoreland Ave. > Milwaukee, WI 53217 Article 9139 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!news-stkh.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!gsl-penn-ns.gsl.net!news-stock.gsl.net!news-dc.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.NetVision.net.il!not-for-mail From: "Zvika peer" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Vaora Date: 31 Jul 1997 08:00:52 GMT Organization: Art Lines: 6 Message-ID: <01bc9d87$eefc7700$76fe5ac2@zvika.artcomp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.90.254.118 X-Trace: news.NetVision.net.il 870336052 13832 (None) 194.90.254.118 X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.NetVision.net.il X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9139 Question : What can I do regarding the Varoa problem ? Where can I buy Mavrik ? Thanks zvika zvika@artcomp.com Article 9140 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!128.158.254.10!news.msfc.nasa.gov!bcm.tmc.edu!news.tamu.edu!news.utdallas.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh8ac.bnr.ca!bcarh8ab.bnr.ca!bcrkh13.bnr.ca!news From: Adrian Kyte Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Anyone Recomend a Good Beekeeping Book? Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 13:46:27 +0100 Organization: Bell Northern Research Lines: 24 Message-ID: <33E08923.7935@nt.com> References: <33D4CADD.72CC@Eng.Sun.COM> <33DCEF35.590@nospam.East.Sun.COM> <33de92b5.186325709@nntp.a001.sprintmail.com> Reply-To: adrian.kyte.delete_this@nt.com NNTP-Posting-Host: dpaii11.bnr.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9140 Howard Bowles wrote: > > What is a wally? > > Howard > snip > >which leads me to wonder what it is about the net that makes people so > >prickly. What I meant when I said that the book had been mentioned > >before, of course, was that the book in question was one that beekeepers > >other than myself had found useful - I was not trying to infer that > >Brian was a wally who should wake up and take proper notice of the > >world. > > snip Wally is a UK mild form of abuse that could translate to one or more of nerd, dork or dweeb -- Regards Adrian :-{)} South Devon, England Any statements made or opinions expressed are my own and not my employers. Adrian.Kyte.delete_this.3310836@bnr.ca [work] beeman.delete_this@enterprise.net [home] Article 9141 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!winter.news.erols.com!news From: Dave Fessler Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: First AFB Experience Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:03:30 -0400 Organization: Erol's Internet Services Lines: 12 Message-ID: <33DFE463.991@erols.com> Reply-To: fessler@erols.com NNTP-Posting-Host: aln-as1s09.erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Received-On: 31 Jul 1997 01:03:01 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9141 This past Saturday, I had the unpleasant and somewaht sad experience of having to destroy my strongest hive because they had contracted AFB. In almost 20 years of beekeeping on a very small scale (usually 2-4 hives) I never had any problem. Now along with Apistan and menthol, Terramycin has become a part of my regimen. For me anyway, the constant medication and record keeping has taken alot of the fun and spontaneity out of beekeeping. Maybe I'm just kidding myself and I should have been using Terramycin all along. Oh well. Maybe next year we'll get some surplus honey. I just burnt up two supers worth along with the rest of the hive ewquipment. Mourning in PA, Dave Article 9142 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!news.eng.convex.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!bullseye.news.demon.net!demon!newsgate.unisource.nl!xs4all!basement.replay.com!mail2news-gw From: Malcolm Roe Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: bees forage on ripe grapes Date: 31 Jul 1997 20:30:24 +0200 Organization: mail2news@replay.com Message-ID: <33E0D971.E61@envirolink.org> References: <5rgjua$e16$1@nntp.pe.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: basement.replay.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-XS4ALL-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:30:26 CEST X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) X-To: mail2news@replay.com X-Cc: mroe@envirolink.org X-Mail2News-Info-Url: http://www.replay.com/mail2news/ X-Mail2News-Errors-To: postmaster@replay.com Lines: 37 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9142 Peter Amschel wrote: > > I have noticed that numbers of bees from my > heavily populated top bar hive are starting to forage on these overripe, warm > and juicy seedless grapes as these grapes are bursting open in the heat of the > day, as they become overripe. > > Do you think I should terminate this activity? I suspect that, unless you remove all the ripe grapes, you will have great difficulty in "terminating this activity". Some of your bees have decided that this is the best source of sugar available in the area. You don't say where you live (which is a good idea with this sort of question) but for many areas in the northern hemisphere there is little forage available at this time of year. However, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Unless there are hundreds of bees on your grapes they are unlikely to be bringing a great deal of juice back to the hive, so it won't affect the honey noticably. I have seen this in the UK at this time of year with rotten apples lying on the ground under the trees: wasps and bees feeding on the fruit. Often the apples are fermenting with a distinct alcholic smell but it doesn't seem to put them off. Sometimes they even seem to be drunk, finding difficulty in taking off or flying in a straight line! Malcolm. Article 9143 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: nilamda@aol.com (NILAMDA) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: MORE FROM THE REV. DIGGES BOOK Date: 31 Jul 1997 14:52:30 GMT Lines: 55 Message-ID: <19970731145201.KAA03443@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL, http://www.aol.co.uk X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9143 I'm going to repeat the paragraph about the worker to put the rest in context:-- It is an utter fallacy which suggests one of the main objects of a bee's life, and her greatest happiness, is to drive her sting into human flesh. The sting is her natural protection -- a weapon not properly of offence, but of defence. It is the exception, and not the rule, for the sting to be used in a manner unprovoked. Instinct teaches the bee to employ her weapon sparingly, because the fastening of the barbs in the object stung often obliges the bee to retire mutilated from the encounter. Fearless Defence of the Home. -------------------------------------------- But bees, it must be admitted, sometimes conceive extravagant notions of danger, and, without any cause apparent to us, will attack with fury any other living thing in their neighbourhood. In such circumstances discretion will often prove " the better part of valour." Force is no remedy. Attack them with your umbrella; a hay fork; a locomotive; a pom pom; they will beat you. Bring up the British Army, horse, foot, and dragoons; the bees will win the day. For behind their assault are their Queen; their brood; their home; and in defence of these they are utterly oblivious of danger and indifferent to death. ------------- You cannot oppose your courage to theirs, for they are not amenable to the laws of civilised warfare, and they will fight with irresistible bravery, and will die a thousand deaths, if need be, in defence of their homes. What Constitutes "a Master of Bees" ------------------------------------------------------ Therefore it is necessary, in order to manage bees, whether on the old principles or the new, that one should know how to stay "the beginning of strife," to subdue them to his will, and to bring them completely under control. Firmness without aggression; gentleness without fear; and a knowledge of their habits, tastes and fancies, are all that are required to constitute a master of bees. With such qualifications one can do with them as one pleases; can revolutionise their kingdom; depose their queen; regulate their enterprise; intercept their swarms; order the manner of their industry; deprive them of their stores; and, without provoking their anger, turn them again to peaceful labour. It is not a charm that may be worked by the priviledged few. It is the application of a knowledge to which all may readily attain. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- I hope no one will assume that this book is just descriptive and not practical as these extracts may imply. Whereas it was first published in 1904, it is very comprehensive, and much is as true today as it was then. 100 years is nothing in the history of bees. Try this one:- "The title "Modern Beekeeping" stands for such skilful management of bees, based upon an intelligent appreciation of their habits, as may secure the maximum results of their labour, and the fullest development of their best characteristics." True in 1904 - 2004 - 3004 etcetera etcetera. An eternal truth. Tony Malin RUGBY UK Article 9144 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!infeed2.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 19:11:40 -0600 From: k-jones@ee.utah.edu Subject: Re: Need help with home made extractor Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Message-ID: <870394234.19969@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Posting Service To: alyn@emphasys.demon.co.uk References: <870293893.25922@dejanews.com> X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Aug 01 00:10:35 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 134.134.248.19 (atropos2.jf.intel.com) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.0 (X11; I; AIX 1) X-Authenticated-Sender: k-jones@ee.utah.edu Lines: 25 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9144 In article , "Alyn W. Ashworth" wrote: > >Is it necessary to support the comb itself while it is being spun? > When I first started, someone lent me a small three-frame tangential > extractor. This had no support for the comb, and worked well, but it was > very laborious. I had to load the comb one way round, then carefully > extract about half the honey on the outside side, Then I had to turn all > the combs through 180 degrees, carfully extract the other side, then > finally turn them round again to extract the balance of the original > side. Thanks! This is useful information. But, my understanding was, that regardless of the type of tangential extractor used, you should ALWAYS use this "spin half, reverse frames, spin other side, reverse" method. Are you saying that with the combs supported, it's OK to spin out one side of a frame completely, then the other? Thanks, Kelly Hillsboro, OR -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet Article 9145 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: marnu@aol.com (Marnu) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Need help with home made extractor Date: 1 Aug 1997 00:17:54 GMT Lines: 42 Message-ID: <19970801001701.UAA03884@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <870293893.25922@dejanews.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9145 >I'm interested in building a small tangential extractor. I'm pretty >good at designing things, and I think I have a handle on how I'll do >it, but I do have one question: > >Is it necessary to support the comb itself while it is being spun? >Most extractors I've seen have some sort of mesh (like expanded metal) >which the comb can rest against during spinning. If I were to build >an extractor in which the wooden frame was held and supported, but >with no support for the actual comb, would this work, or would the >comb be likely to break? How much support is actually needed? > >(I use medium size frames, with prewired foundation, if that matters.) > >Also, I am thinking that rather than put a crank on the axle, I will >just >chuck the axle into an electric hand drill, and use this to spin the >frames. Is there some reason why this wouldn't work well? > >Thanks for any advice, > >Kelly > > You're on the right track, but let me add my own $.02 Unsupported honey-filled comb would have to be spun VERY slowly and reversed by hand VERY often to keep it from flying out of the frame. A very time consuming process. Even with an expanded metal basket the comb sometimes comes out looking pretty beat up. I recommend some type of support as you said you've seen. OR -- if you're intent on only supporting the frames -- design and make a radial extractor. As for the hand drill power source, forget it. Even only three frames would be a lot of inertia for a drill to overcome. It would more likely violently twist the drill out of your hand as starts. You'd have better control of the speed with just a hand crank at the end of the axle. I'd also recommend some type of brake mechanism so that when you get ready to reverse the frames (something that should be done more tham once) you don't have to wait for the basket to slow down on its own. When I used a 4 frame hand crank extractor most of my time was spent waiting for the baskets to slow down so I could reverse the frames. This was probably the single biggest time drain in the whole process. Article 9146 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!prodigy.com!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: Daniel Golden Newsgroups: sci.agriculture,sci.environment.waste,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,sci.agriculture.fruit,sci.agriculture.poultry,sci.agriculture.ratites,sci.edu,sci.environment,rec.gardens,rec.gardens.edible,rec.gardens.orchids,rec.gardens.roses,sci.econ,alt.earth,alt.earth.snow Subject: Grow More Food - 50% Less Water Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:58:11 -0700 Organization: The Terawet Corporation Lines: 9 Message-ID: <33E1429E.AF19B4AA@terawet.com> Reply-To: dgolden@terawet.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 1cust80.max2.san-diego.ca.ms.uu.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture:20878 sci.environment.waste:89 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9146 sci.agriculture.fruit:991 sci.agriculture.poultry:3128 sci.agriculture.ratites:906 sci.edu:17370 sci.environment:137950 rec.gardens:212739 rec.gardens.edible:969 rec.gardens.orchids:15293 rec.gardens.roses:45901 sci.econ:73615 alt.earth:145 alt.earth.snow:58 A breakthrough "State of the Art" co-polymer has been developed by The Terawet Corporation as a soil amendment for agricultural and horticultural applications. 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Detailed information may be viewed at http://www.terawet.com Article 9147 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news-master!news From: Chris Kueny Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Finding a Queen Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 23:49:51 -0400 Organization: Congaree Wildflower Honey Lines: 36 Message-ID: <33E15CDF.621C@concentric.net> References: <33DB2DB8.1957@ozemail.com.au> Reply-To: congaree@concentric.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ts001d23.col-sc.concentric.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9147 NICHOLAS GODDARD wrote: > > I am soon to re-queen three very angry hives (thus the need tp > re-queen). > > I have cut the hives down to 2 supers, with a queen excluder in between, > so I can at least isolate her to one of the two boxes on each hive. > > Any suggesttions on ways to easily (and quickly) find the queen in > amongst some very angry bees, once I have located the appropriate super > ??? > > Nick- NSW, Australia. Nick, The way we find queens when shaking packages is to use very little smoke and work very quickly: 1. Pull out the frame closest to you, working from one side. 2. Quickly look at the frame *inside* the hive, if no queen, look both sides of the frame in your hand. 3. Lean the frame against the (long) side of the hive. 4. Pull each remaining frame, looking inside the hive first at the exposed frame, then at the frame in your hand. Make sure you align each frame as you lean them against the other frames outside the hive so as to not crush bees. 5. If you have all frames outside the hive, and still haven't found her, look carefully in the box. If she isn't there, do the 1-2-3. 6. The 1-2-3: Place a light (mostly empty) super on an upside down top, put a queen excluder on it, and shake each frame onto it, then look it, and put it back in the hive. Take care to keep brood frames together. 7. Watch the edges of the queen excluder to make sure she doesn't run down the side. When you see her do your duty. I would bet it is possible the bees have no queen now, hence their disposition. Chris Kueny congaree@concentric.net Article 9148 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!news-out.communique.net!communique!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!205.252.116.205!howland.erols.net!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news2.mnsinc.com!news1.mnsinc.com!usenet From: "Thomas W. Christ" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Yellow Jacket Problem Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:01:43 -0700 Organization: HDS, Inc. Lines: 39 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <33E0FD37.1D8F@hdscorp.com> References: <01bc9566$f2922c80$aa0deecd@bern> <33D27634.3FDD@Birkey.Com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.239.57.23 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9148 I have used gasoline in the pastBarry Birkey wrote: > > Bern wrote: > > > > We have discovered a new yellow jacket nest in our yard deep in the ground. > > Yes one of us has been stung :-( we need to get rid of these intruders. > > Is there an effective solution anyone can suggest that is quick? > > > > Thank You! > > -- > > Email to Fax Service > > http://www.aracnet.com/~bern > > bern@aracnet.com > > Looks like this address needs to start being posted on a weekly basis now that we are > getting into the yellowjacket season. > > http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/academic/agriculture/entomology/beekeeping/general/ > > -- > Barry Birkey > West Chicago, Illinois USA > barry@birkey.com > http://www.birkey.com I have used gasoline in the past (pouring several ounces of it into the hole used by the yellowjackets). I had a problem with a yellowjacket nest three days ago; it was underneath the kennel in which I keep my brid dogs. I didn't want to use gasoline both because of the dogs and because I just don't want to dump gasoline into the ground any more. Following the advice of our Ag Extension office (who also suggested gasoline as an alternative approach!) I used liquid Sevin. I mixed 6 oz into a gallon of water (this is the recommended ratio on the Sevin container for fire ants; there was no suggestion relative to yellowjackets), waited until dark, poured it down the hole, and covered the hole with a stone. The next morning one yellowjacket apeared, and he has since succumbed. The Sevin didn't have the instantaneous effect of gasoline, but it ultimately did the job. The crucial part of this approach to the problem is to attack at night! Otherwise, you will be terribly stung. Tom. Article 9149 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: kenm@wn.com.au (Ken Morris) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Vote on Best Beekeeping Book (was Re: Anyone Recomend a Good Beekeeping Book?) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 16:22:11 GMT Organization: Hillgrove Farm Honey Reply-To: kenm@wn.com.au Message-ID: <33e0b7f4.2899765@news.wn.com.au> References: <33D4CADD.72CC@Eng.Sun.COM> <33DCEF35.590@nospam.East.Sun.COM> <5rn65g$mn0$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <33df7cd2.246268224@nntp.a001.sprintmail.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp14.wn.com.au Lines: 29 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!agate!newsfeed.kornet.nm.kr!nntp.kreonet.re.kr!newsfeed.dacom.co.kr!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!infeed2.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.wli.net!nac!news.kcdata.com!dhcp14.wn.com.au Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9149 Follow-up with your vote. I'll tabulate all the votes in the next 30 days or so >>and then summarize the results. Once done, I'll archive the faq at Sunsite (a >>beekeeping archive is located there if you didn't know) >>http://sunsite.unc.edu/bees >> >>and then everyone can point others to the file: "Best Beekeeping Book" Hello Adam, Great idea! If you are running regional sections, I would like to nominate an Australian book, named imaginitively, "Beekeeping". It was first published in Victoria, Australia, as "Beekeeping in Victoria" circa 1925. It has had a host of revisions since and has been expanded and revised. It is produced by the Agriculture Department. Its material is very relevant to Australian beekeepers, more so than most non-Australian beekeeping books, but, conversely, of limited applicability elsewhere. I hope you get enough nominations for your sample to be representative; good luck with a great project! Regards, Ken Morris Hillgrove Farm Honey, Batavia Coast, Western Australia http://www.wn.com.au/gol/members/kenm/index.htm Australia/New Zealand Distributor of BiData Beekeeping Software