Article 34049 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bees nest photo Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 00:08:50 -0000 Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <1c7cf400.0302251051.64bf9d61@posting.google.com> <3E5BFD8E.94A10E47@hcis.net> <1c7cf400.0302260956.1ee6840f@posting.google.com> <1c7cf400.0302280308.5e8fffa3@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.129.6 X-Trace: newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk 1046477349 5177 217.135.129.6 (1 Mar 2003 00:09:09 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Mar 2003 00:09:09 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!colt.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34049 If it is a wasps' nest then it will be empty. "TC" wrote in message news:1c7cf400.0302280308.5e8fffa3@posting.google.com... > "Peter Edwards" wrote in message news:... > > If it is grey and papery then it will be wasps and empty. If bees then you > > will see them on the combs. > > > > Incidentally, it is a wasps' nest and you can remove it reasonably intact > > (use a knife) then any local primary school will probably appreciate it for > > their 'nature table'. > > Good idea. So I can remove it with no fear that there's anything in > there that will hurt me?! I don't need to use anything to kill > anything that might be alive in there? > > Thanks, > TC Article 34050 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: gfdavis1@msn.com (gdavis) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: when to start feeding Date: 1 Mar 2003 12:43:09 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 8 Message-ID: <2ddfb488.0303011243.62065a5c@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.200.131.54 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1046551389 21763 127.0.0.1 (1 Mar 2003 20:43:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Mar 2003 20:43:09 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34050 I live in southwest, va. I am a little concerned about stores on my bees. I purchesed some bee substitute. Is it to early to start feeding? Also when should I dust w/terramycin. I don't see any movement around 4 or so of my hives. The honey crop last year was only a third of the year before. Idid leave med super on each hive. GD Article 34051 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 15:15:21 -0600 From: doug houseman Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: No valid MI Beekeepers on Pollinators - Need Hive Organization: MCU, Ltd References: <2ddfb488.0303011243.62065a5c@posting.google.com> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:15:20 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.40.48.85 X-Trace: sv3-8lc4WKciNPMrj9BRTCCehXIKKDDA6IPOFLZ+TTUnmMmso1hTvKMOCkHBrq2liT0lL+i6zsPHoumVktT!NuymbqPCPgxML391Fr7yVwNdszg3KQM29OVlBEXyfzLRccWqfsxpv0FBln3ajay7eMdkV9Fzywci!wN4DPsYSk+C6 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!nntp1.phx1.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!newsfeed.news2me.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34051 Gentlepersons - Sorry for the interruption. I was told a year ago to try the Pollinators list for some one with a hive. I tried last spring and this winter to find a person with hives in SE Michigan. I looked at Pollinators again this morning and tried all the Michigan phone numbers. No luck. Does anyone know some one. I have a great place for bees. thank you in advance Doug Houseman 4233 Mario Ct Plymouth MI 48170 doug@msen.com Article 34052 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 4 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lazurus106@aol.com (Lazurus106) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 01 Mar 2003 21:41:05 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: No valid MI Beekeepers on Pollinators - Need Hive Message-ID: <20030301164105.07038.00000088@mb-cl.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!usenet01.sei.cmu.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m2.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34052 HI, Could you put up the pollinators lists addresse? Cheers, Dave in Madison,WI Article 34053 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: No valid MI Beekeepers on Pollinators - Need Hive Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 22:00:16 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 29 Message-ID: <3e612d3e.17973610@news1.radix.net> References: <2ddfb488.0303011243.62065a5c@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip190.sns.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!tdsnet-transit!newspeer.tds.net!newspeer.radix.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34053 On Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:15:20 -0500, doug houseman wrote: >Gentlepersons - > >Sorry for the interruption. > >I was told a year ago to try the Pollinators list for some one with a >hive. I tried last spring and this winter to find a person with hives in >SE Michigan. > >I looked at Pollinators again this morning and tried all the Michigan >phone numbers. No luck. > >Does anyone know some one. I have a great place for bees. > >thank you in advance > >Doug Houseman >4233 Mario Ct >Plymouth MI 48170 > >doug@msen.com Call your state dept of Ag. Ask for the apiary inspection branch. They will know. beekeep Article 34054 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bees nest photo Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:22:38 -0000 Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <1c7cf400.0302251051.64bf9d61@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.179.73 X-Trace: newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk 1046204663 3718 217.135.179.73 (25 Feb 2003 20:24:23 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Feb 2003 20:24:23 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.algonet.se!algonet!nntp.abs.net!news-FFM2.ecrc.net!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!portal.gmu.edu!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.vt.edu!image.surnet.ru!news1.spb.su!newsfeed.stueberl.de!peernews3.colt.net!colt.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34054 Can you describe it? It is probably an old wasps' nest which will be made of a paper - either grey or brownish depending on the species - and it will be deserted . A bees' nest will consist of wax combs, more or less parallel and hanging from a support. It may or may not be occupied. -- Peter Edwards beekeepers@stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk "TC" wrote in message news:1c7cf400.0302251051.64bf9d61@posting.google.com... > Hi, > > I've found a nest in my attic; I think its a bees nest but can't find > a photo to verify. Am I right in thinking that there won't be any > insects in it - I live in the London, England so just come through a > winter. Should I leave it alone or doesn't it matter? The nest is > between joists that I want to board over so I suppose I can leave it > where it is. > > Thanks, > TC Article 34055 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: john.j.moore@att.net (John J. Moore) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bees imbedded in plastic Date: 2 Mar 2003 06:27:57 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 2 Message-ID: <77afb129.0303020627.787e3abb@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.91.32.121 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1046615278 5643 127.0.0.1 (2 Mar 2003 14:27:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Mar 2003 14:27:58 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34055 I'm looking to find out where you can buy bees that are imbedded in plastic Cubes. I would like to pass these around in the class room. Thanks Article 34056 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 10 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: beeman10@aol.com (Beeman10) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 02 Mar 2003 15:04:27 GMT References: <77afb129.0303020627.787e3abb@posting.google.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Bees imbedded in plastic Message-ID: <20030302100427.29847.00000063@mb-ml.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed3.newsreader.com!newsreader.com!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m1.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34056 Two biological supply companies ond one entomology supply company have them. You may need to look in their hard copy catalogs for the item number since the on line catalogs are not alway up to date. Ward's Natural Science http://www.wardsci.com/ Carolina Biological http://www.carolina.com/ Bioquip http://www.bioquip.com/ Article 34057 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 09:47:14 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 10:47:16 -0500 Subject: Patchouli Oil for Mites From: samuel garrett Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Lines: 6 NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.44.12.235 X-Trace: sv3-hSjtnSwC8jL6E5ZoBwUnhSRjSHMe/x5qVIgB78wj4aogrjI72W9zOA1Br7bs1QKK/Ml8x7vHTYQnD6B!pSLdmH5Bk+oDjBW6NIEY9t7axlaFqi8GMRE1ge0nrYUXf5i+s3fN+NXRQAGvaqM= X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!216.166.71.11!nntp2.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34057 Has anyone read about using patchouli oil as a treatment for mites? There is an interesting article on the web, any search engine - essential oils and honey bees - and this article comes up. It seems so effective, easy and safe. I wonder why no one is pursuing research on this? Any feed back would be appreciated. Article 34058 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "zoom" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Devon Bees Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 22:51:48 -0000 Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.161.142 X-Trace: news7.svr.pol.co.uk 1046645185 2887 217.135.161.142 (2 Mar 2003 22:46:25 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Mar 2003 22:46:25 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!peer1.news.newnet.co.uk!shale.ftech.net!news.ftech.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34058 Hey... thats weird, as we are just about to move to East Devon from Hampshire. Any club activity? Chris "john.ford4" wrote in message news:nlr7a.223$dY2.182@newsfep3-gui.server.ntli.net... > I am about to move to the East Devon area in the UK and would like to get in > contact with a local BKA. > > I would also appreciate any general advice on the area, as I am moving from > Nottingham. > > I have only two colonies, but hope to build up gradually over the coming > years! > > Many thanks in advance, > > John Ford > > Article 34059 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 20:02:04 -0600 From: "me" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Honey Bottles Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 20:01:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Lines: 6 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.198.128.135 X-Trace: sv3-NdFfqQaI7wZU0nNrAL5yQ5WY2hRF+eh0DMzPd1QMTwo9U6bV8vBp5oWqu/zxbB3JMc7T6bPCu5RTrA1!7bXN+tloVR7Ifqhrtc4//YKiGiQPJ9th2XCV5hPsNbdyOBqbfSqAOOujGL85dajH+1FoXSQ= X-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!nntp1.phx1.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!newsfeed.news2me.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.crcom.net!news.crcom.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34059 I'm looking for plastic bottles I can use for honey. Does anyone know of a good supplier? Thanks West Texas Mark Article 34060 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 20:03:40 -0600 From: "me" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Label Printing Companies Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 20:03:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Lines: 6 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.198.128.135 X-Trace: sv3-VuI7u22V7CXINKjGQWmjEE9cd39QWf1z1GmWBfF+Fb9iBrKufE36oSTansXKFKZktTofbLI+iUlMVkf!MgKYmpDCw5UH84wEgcuS7zf3jik2nMyOoGMUxjak0fe8Op28HH/jTDV1bh1bLXD+y+MUVy4= X-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.news2me.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.crcom.net!news.crcom.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34060 I'm looking for a company to print my honey labels at a reasonable price. Any suggestions? Thanks West Texas Mark Article 34061 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 20:22:03 -0600 Message-ID: <3E62D79F.6107614F@hcis.net> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 20:18:39 -0800 From: AL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey Bottles References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.240.93.50 X-Trace: sv3-GHiIiRcQqIjGNzpX07h7SwK+aW4FvJRmro9hrNk57DRBq2uivrk/LpAUE0l0T1B9RykdEmK/LIlmfZ3!rjR7TstS85HMeQs5BZOqfKzzGNU7AfKgUEfhVMI2TRKLS1/PoPnnvtrB8rSR9F4qUePjJw== X-Complaints-To: abuse@shawneelink.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@shawneelink.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.news2me.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.shawneelink.net!news.shawneelink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34061 me wrote: > > I'm looking for plastic bottles I can use for honey. Does anyone know of a > good supplier? > > Thanks > West Texas Mark I've found good prices and service from Brushy Mountain http://www.beeequipment.com/ AL Article 34062 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jim Pickett" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Varroa threshold Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 21:27:37 -0600 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 8 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34062 I would like to know how many mites found after 24 hours of sticky board application would indicate a need for treatment with an acaricide? No acaracide has been applied in doing this count. -- Jim Pickett Article 34063 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Steve Huston" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: Varroa threshold Lines: 15 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.62.89.183 X-Complaints-To: abuse@attbi.com X-Trace: sccrnsc04 1046707885 24.62.89.183 (Mon, 03 Mar 2003 16:11:25 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 16:11:25 GMT Organization: AT&T Broadband Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 16:11:25 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!sccrnsc04.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34063 "Jim Pickett" wrote in message news:v65ita5rdo0h80@corp.supernews.com... > I would like to know how many mites found after 24 hours of sticky board > application would indicate a need for treatment with an acaricide? No > acaracide has been applied in doing this count. Per an answer I received to this same question a couple years ago, 117. You didn't say where you are, but if you're up near 100 coming out of winter, I'd say treatment is necessary now. -Steve Massachusetts, US Article 34064 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping From: Billy Subject: Re: Varroa threshold X-Nntp-Posting-Host: rs498032.ks.boeing.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3E638E2B.E31AA164@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (Boeing NNTP News Access) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Dew of the Plains Apiaries X-Accept-Language: en References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 17:17:31 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; AIX 4.3) Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.tufts.edu!uunet!dca.uu.net!ash.uu.net!xyzzy!nntp Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34064 For a strong colony in two deeps - 50 mites over 24 hours. Billy Smart Rock, KS Jim Pickett wrote: > > I would like to know how many mites found after 24 hours of sticky board > application would indicate a need for treatment with an acaricide? No > acaracide has been applied in doing this count. > > -- > Jim Pickett Article 34065 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Mike Griggs Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Help digitize Rare Beekeeping books for on-line veiwing Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:23:42 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Lines: 89 Sender: mhg3@cornell.invalid (on www.ppru.cornell.edu) Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: www.ppru.cornell.edu X-Trace: news01.cit.cornell.edu 1046715826 14624 128.253.66.86 (3 Mar 2003 18:23:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news01.cit.cornell.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Mar 2003 18:23:46 GMT User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.3b1 (PPC Mac OS X) Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!lnsnews.lns.cornell.edu!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!mhg3 Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34065 Since the EAS 2002 conference that was held here at Cornell I have been working with the library to raise money to digitize rare books in the EF Phillips beekeeping library so they could be mounted on the WWW for beekeepers everywhere to read. If you are interested in this project please read the following & pass the word on to you state, local, o povincial assaociations. Once on-line they will be veiwable by all. If you have any questions or would like a printable version of the Flier send me e-mail off list. Mike 2002 President EAS President Finger Lakes Beekeepers Association -------------------------------------------------------------------- DIGITIZATION OF THE PHILLIPS BEEKEEPING COLLECTION Albert R. Mann Library, Cornell University An exciting opportunity exists for American beekeepers to help make spectacular volumes from the E. F. Phillips Beekeeping Collection at Cornell Universityıs Albert R. Mann Library available to the public via the World Wide Web. The Phillips Collection, inspired by Cornell professor E. Franklin Phillips, is a major repository of information on bees and beekeeping. It is one of the three major apiculture library collections in the United States and includes several thousand volumes, many published before 1900. The Phillips Collection features many volumes from the personal library of L.L. Langstroth, who popularized the moveable frame hive. Among these are Munnıs ³Description of the bar-and-frame hive² (1844), Millsı ³Essay on the management of bees² (1766), Gelieuıs ³Bee preserver² (1829) and Townleyıs ³Practical treatise on humanity to honey bees² (1848.) Although the collection was initiated by Phillips, funds for the libraryıs growth were supplied by beekeepers themselves with proceeds of designated hives going into the library endowment. These donations established an endowment that today continues to support new acquisitions of modern apicultural materials for the collection. In return, Phillips intended the library to be a storehouse of knowledge for the beekeeping community. Now, Mann Library hopes to harness the power of 21st century digital technology to make the Phillips collection more widely accessible to the general beekeeping and scholarly communities. The library hopes to scan some of the most important works from the Phillips collection over the next few years and make these volumes freely accessible over the Internet. Digitizing beekeeping books will cost approximately $200 per volume. Mann is accepting donations to cover these costs and help realize Phillipsı vision of providing beekeepers with a useful collection of historical information on the science and art of apiculture. The Eastern Apicultural Society (EAS) has offered to donate the first $200 for digitizing Langstrothıs ³The Hive and Honey Bee² and will further match 1:1 up to $1000 within 2 years. Mann has a proven record of success in digitizing historical materials, as evidenced by the Core Historical Literature of Agriculture (CHLA) at http://chla.library.cornell.edu This collection currently includes almost 850 volumes that can be browsed or searched by any person who has access to an internet-connected computer. The field of apiculture is not yet well represented in the CHLA collection, but as funding becomes available, Mann will be able to mount an initial selection of works and continue to add more books as funding allows. The project would include works in the English language, published prior to 1925, so that they would be in the public domain. As has been done in previous projects, Mann staff will work with leading scholars to identify the most significant books for inclusion. To make a donation to Mannıs Beekeeping Literature Online initiative, please fill out the form below and send it along with your gift to the address given. You will receive written acknowledgement of your contribution, and the support of the EAS will be recognized on Mannıs CHLA website. If you have any questions or for more information on the digitization of the Phillips Beekeeping Collection, please contact Janet McCue, Director of Mann Library, at (607) 255-2285 or jam7@cornell.edu. I wish to make a gift of $________________ to Mann Libraryıs Beekeeping Literature Online initiative. Name________________________________________________ Address____________________________________ City_______________________State & Zip___________ Please makes checks payable to Cornell University. Please return check and form to the Albert R. Mann Library, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853-4301. Thank you very much for your support! Article 34066 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: albert.cannon@lineone.net (albert cannon) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Devon Bees Date: 3 Mar 2003 12:38:08 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 27 Message-ID: <4169b71c.0303031238.76c0bd78@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.225.108.238 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1046723888 21642 127.0.0.1 (3 Mar 2003 20:38:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Mar 2003 20:38:08 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34066 "zoom" wrote in message news:... > Hey... thats weird, as we are just about to move to East Devon from > Hampshire. > > Any club activity? > > Chris > > "> > I would also appreciate any general advice on the area, as I am moving > from > > Nottingham. > > > > I have only two colonies, but hope to build up gradually over the coming > > years! > > > > Many thanks in advance, > > > > John Ford > > > > try contacting any of these people. Gen Sec. DBKA Glyn Berrington, 17 chapel street, Bere Alston, Yelverton, tavistock. PL20 7DE. bee.glyn@virgin.net. tel.01822 840418. East Devon Branch. Sec. Chris Charlton,Corydon,Luppitt,Honiton,EX14 4RT. Article 34067 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: nucskep@yahoo.com (Nuc Skep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Patchouli Oil for Mites Date: 3 Mar 2003 13:36:52 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 18 Message-ID: <9936fa52.0303031336.57300e02@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.127.103.174 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1046727412 26516 127.0.0.1 (3 Mar 2003 21:36:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Mar 2003 21:36:52 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34067 samuel garrett wrote in message news:... > Has anyone read about using patchouli oil as a treatment for mites? > There is an interesting article on the web, any search engine - essential > oils and honey bees - and this article comes up. It seems so effective, easy > and safe. I wonder why no one is pursuing research on this? Any feed back > would be appreciated. Don't forget the lava lamp and sitar music. (Sorry, I couldn't help it.) I know there have been past discussions here about essential oils. Searching the archives will fill you in. From what I recall, results were mixed at best. Not enough positive results to get me to buy in. Nuc. Article 34068 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:14:24 -0600 From: "csoderquist" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: Honey Bottles Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:14:26 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Lines: 11 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.233.218.25 X-Trace: sv3-c9Vhzo7MjvJMz7qkoI74tuirJRH0YtCtmqqs5RTQoyT2U/aoKnHEfsEnHozIx8pMTHhgimuCHj5ejmD!Kwt4kN6c33qd4EnAEcHwKCs+FaU8woRBirrlW2bCKhUyNsqEbktJ8TcUnJP8DDe0eTo4NX0Mpqzc!4zmVZQ4/1qBipUvWdzcXsxOkdycc0Aw81dp5 X-Complaints-To: abuse@wideopenwest.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@wideopenwest.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.wideopenwest.com!news.wideopenwest.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34068 Try http://www.sailorplastics.com/ "me" wrote in message news:vSydnetRyfUBKv-jXTWcpg@crcom.net... > I'm looking for plastic bottles I can use for honey. Does anyone know of a > good supplier? > > Thanks > West Texas Mark > Article 34069 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Angela and Keith Copi" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey Bottles Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:15:41 -0500 Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaeb8ulA00JSlaRTW/YX7JYecdHNtoWR7kFjnnLaSmkxQqNreaGyOu/ X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Mar 2003 00:15:37 GMT X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Priority: 3 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34069 "me" wrote in message news:vSydnetRyfUBKv-jXTWcpg@crcom.net... > I'm looking for plastic bottles I can use for honey. Does anyone know of a > good supplier? > > Thanks > West Texas Mark Personallly I like Betterbee (www.betterbee.com) for both plastic bottles and labels, which they can custom print for you. Keith > Article 34070 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 20:34:24 -0600 From: "Dan & Sharon Keller" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: Patchouli Oil for Mites Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:34:43 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.241.142.153 X-Trace: sv3-fp2YDTvHLn5dCdWkFsArFSShqaMaS1rZvDv5WAbF4cmCmVDAr44XLGIXSV7Iq9Fiwr5QSGublKegEYk!Api9GJa7zdyyJbqOmu3pIJjmn+w3prSSMrmp+C8uPs2sXrmIKoQDe/iknvEqo4YQtiQByJbtapm1!6u2U X-Complaints-To: abuse@kconline.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@kconline.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!news-out.spamkiller.net!propagator2-maxim!news-in.spamkiller.net!newsfeed.sjc.globix.net!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!151.164.30.35!cyclone.swbell.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.kconline.com!news.kconline.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34070 Since we raise peppermint I have used peppermint and mineral oil 1 part pepprmint oil to 9 parts mineral oil. When I open the hive I spritz the bees, they do not seem to like it very much. I have not lost a hive in serveral years Is it any more effective than other treatments? I don't know. dan "samuel garrett" wrote in message news:BA8791B4.69D8%sgarret131@comcast.net... > Has anyone read about using patchouli oil as a treatment for mites? > There is an interesting article on the web, any search engine - essential > oils and honey bees - and this article comes up. It seems so effective, easy > and safe. I wonder why no one is pursuing research on this? Any feed back > would be appreciated. > Article 34071 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: mudshark@hotmail.com (TC) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bees nest photo Date: 25 Feb 2003 10:52:00 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 11 Message-ID: <1c7cf400.0302251051.64bf9d61@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.80.112.170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1046199120 6108 127.0.0.1 (25 Feb 2003 18:52:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Feb 2003 18:52:00 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!news.umass.edu!news.ucr.edu!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!earthquake.efnet.com!efnet.com!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34071 Hi, I've found a nest in my attic; I think its a bees nest but can't find a photo to verify. Am I right in thinking that there won't be any insects in it - I live in the London, England so just come through a winter. Should I leave it alone or doesn't it matter? The nest is between joists that I want to board over so I suppose I can leave it where it is. Thanks, TC Article 34072 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: John Caldeira Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: How much honey can I expect? Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 17 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:32:04 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.62.104.125 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1046205124 4.62.104.125 (Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:32:04 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:32:04 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!news.umass.edu!news.ucr.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34072 "James Avila" wrote: >Can someone tell me how many pounds of honey I will extract from a fully >capped, medium super(6 5/8") that contains nine frames? A medium (6 5/8”) depth super will typically yield between 35 and 40 pounds, or 3 to 4 gallons. Actual yields vary due to how tight they are filled out by the bees, how well they are extracted, age of comb, as well has number of frames. Tips on harvesting honey: http://www.outdoorplace.org/beekeeping/extracting.htm John John Caldeira Dallas, Texas, USA http://www.outdoorplace.org/beekeeping Article 34073 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 17:37:36 -0600 Message-ID: <3E5BFD8E.94A10E47@hcis.net> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 17:34:38 -0600 From: AL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bees nest photo References: <1c7cf400.0302251051.64bf9d61@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.240.93.149 X-Trace: sv3-zkQNCTCKtWGTX1Fcv87MKqHaOGZWq5Uf2Ed5ANWK2xVx+VaSgYcBE9x8bsVQesDLqKZkDTt5SPh568W!+lc0v/jfsF0NJ7TxVcgh1158bLHXEA/+OptGn5mQtAGS+GdVLHAnEyB+GrS8FLhPjw0XavE= X-Complaints-To: abuse@shawneelink.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@shawneelink.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!news.umass.edu!news.ucr.edu!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.shawneelink.net!news.shawneelink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34073 Peter Edwards wrote: > "TC" wrote in message > > Hi, > > > > I've found a nest in my attic; I think its a bees nest but can't find > > a photo to verify. Am I right in thinking that there won't be any > > insects in it - I live in the London, England so just come through a > > winter. Should I leave it alone or doesn't it matter? The nest is > > between joists that I want to board over so I suppose I can leave it > > where it is. > > > > Thanks, > > TC > Can you describe it? > > It is probably an old wasps' nest which will be made of a paper - either > grey or brownish depending on the species - and it will be deserted . > > A bees' nest will consist of wax combs, more or less parallel and hanging > from a support. It may or may not be occupied. > -- > Peter Edwards > beekeepers@stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk Regardless of the bug that put it there, it should be removed before you board it up. AL Article 34074 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Marc Mendez" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Transform saccharose to glucose Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:55:26 +0100 Organization: Guest of France Telecom Oleane's newsreading service Lines: 12 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.167.236.180 X-Trace: s1.read.news.oleane.net 1046796644 14486 217.167.236.180 (4 Mar 2003 16:50:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@oleane.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 16:50:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!oleane.net!oleane!nnrp.oleane.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34074 Hi, My girlfiend's uncle can get saccharose at low price. He wonders how he could transform it to glucose to feed bees during Winter. Normally, it can be done using an enzym called "Invertase", but unfortunately, no accurate infos about the process ! Any info ? Thanks ! Article 34075 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Ricia and Michael Banther" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <9936fa52.0303031336.57300e02@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Patchouli Oil for Mites Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:03:51 -0000 Lines: 32 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.78.81.48 Message-ID: <3e65139e@212.67.96.135> X-Trace: 4 Mar 2003 20:59:10 GMT, 213.78.81.48 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!nntp1.phx1.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!212.67.96.135!213.78.81.48 Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34075 "Nuc Skep" wrote in message news:9936fa52.0303031336.57300e02@posting.google.com... > samuel garrett wrote in message news:... > > Has anyone read about using patchouli oil as a treatment for mites? > > There is an interesting article on the web, any search engine - essential > > oils and honey bees - and this article comes up. It seems so effective, easy > > and safe. I wonder why no one is pursuing research on this? Any feed back > > would be appreciated. > > Don't forget the lava lamp and sitar music. > > (Sorry, I couldn't help it.) > > > > I know there have been past discussions here about essential oils. > Searching the archives will fill you in. From what I recall, results > were mixed at best. Not enough positive results to get me to buy in. > > Nuc. Interesting idea though. My wife has long used patchouli to protect fabric in storage from the moths that will eat through it. Michael Banther Article 34076 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Steve Hagerty" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Permacomb foundation???? Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:32:29 -0600 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 14 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-442.newsdawg.com X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews2 Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34076 Has anyone ever tried to use the permacomb foundation? It's a one piece fully drawn out plastic comb.... Do the bees like this? What about warpage? I took on a loss this year on my bees over the winter.... but we had a warm spell, and I'm feeding away. I hope everyone else is doing better.... Can't wait for spring!!!!! Steve --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/03 Article 34077 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Steve Hagerty" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Requirements for honey processing anyone? Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:33:04 -0600 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 19 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-483.newsdawg.com X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews2 Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34077 Hello all! I'm planning on building a honey house this spring to house my exctractor and so forth. Does anyone know what the FDA or Dept. of Agriculture requires you to have in it? Someone told me three sinks and must be clean... food grade grease... but is there a guideline? I tried searching FDA but didn't have any luck. I figure if I'm building it, would like to accomidate them as well as me in the process... Hope everyone's bees are doing great. Steve --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/03 Article 34078 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.65.177.105 From: bjms Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Requirements for honey processing anyone? Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 28 Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 05:32:29 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.64.223.206 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news1.calgary.shaw.ca 1046842349 24.64.223.206 (Tue, 04 Mar 2003 22:32:29 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 22:32:29 MST Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news1.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34078 If you are Canadian, you might try this site EH. http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-0.4/C.R.C.-c.287/index.html Brian On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:33:04 -0600, "Steve Hagerty" wrote: >Hello all! >I'm planning on building a honey house this spring to house my exctractor >and so forth. Does anyone know what the FDA or Dept. of Agriculture >requires you to have in it? Someone told me three sinks and must be >clean... food grade grease... but is there a guideline? I tried searching >FDA but didn't have any luck. I figure if I'm building it, would like to >accomidate them as well as me in the process... Hope everyone's bees are >doing great. >Steve > > > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/03 > Article 34079 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "David Eyre" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re. Apitherapy. Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 15:55:43 -0500 Organization: The Bee Works Message-ID: Reply-To: "David Eyre" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 18 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-04!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34079 I have need of information, please. Anyone with practical experience using apitherapy for the treatment of fibramyalga, please contact me. Off line, please. Without being rude, I do not need loads of URL's and other information. I have done all the research, all I now need is practical information for this specific case. Regards Dave....-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David Eyre The Bee Works, 5 Edith Drive, RR#2, Orillia. ON. L3V 6H2 705-326-7171 www.beeworks.com admin@beeworks.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Article 34080 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Winnie" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Help - hundreds of bees round house Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:44:23 +1300 Organization: Ihug Limited Lines: 18 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 203-173-200-226.nzwide.ihug.co.nz X-Trace: lust.ihug.co.nz 1046925865 31522 203.173.200.226 (6 Mar 2003 04:44:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ihug.co.nz NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 04:44:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!aanews.merit.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!xmission!news-out.spamkiller.net!propagator2-maxim!news-in.spamkiller.net!propagator3-maxim!news-in.superfeed.net!newsfeed01.tsnz.net!newsfeeds.ihug.co.nz!lust.ihug.co.nz!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34080 Hi. We live a few hundred metres from an apiary and on some days we get thousands of bees zooming very quickly around our house, with no apparent purpose. They don't seem to be getting inside but of course we have to keep doors and windows tight shut; no fun as it's late summer here. I've been religiously avoiding anything that makes a sweet smell, but still they bombard us. What's up with the flaming things, and what's in it for them? They seem quite aggressive in that if you make a noise or go to the window they come clustering around you, and I daren't go outside as they just bombard your face. Obviously we're going to move but in the meantime is there anything that acts as a bee repellent? I don't want to have to start killing next door's stock, especially as he's our landlord.... TIA for any suggestions. Help??? Winnie PS The dog got stung so now I'm really p*ssed off. Article 34081 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Help - hundreds of bees round house Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 07:41:20 -0000 Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.139.131 X-Trace: newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk 1046936491 5532 217.135.139.131 (6 Mar 2003 07:41:31 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Mar 2003 07:41:31 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!colt.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34081 Have you talked to the owner? Could be bees preparing to swarm and sending out scouts to look for a new home, but they are not usually aggressive. Another possibility is that if the weather is very hot and dry they may be looking for water; if so, the beekeeper could provide this to solve the problem. Are they really aggressive or are there just a large number? How many times have you been stung (I would not count the dog - not being unkind, but dogs often snap at bees and then get stung). I would not keep the doors and windows shut as bees do not usually come indoors - and if they do then open windows will allow them to get back out. -- Peter Edwards beekeepers@stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk "Winnie" wrote in message news:b46jn8$up2$1@lust.ihug.co.nz... > Hi. We live a few hundred metres from an apiary and on some days we get > thousands of bees zooming very quickly around our house, with no apparent > purpose. They don't seem to be getting inside but of course we have to keep > doors and windows tight shut; no fun as it's late summer here. I've been > religiously avoiding anything that makes a sweet smell, but still they > bombard us. What's up with the flaming things, and what's in it for them? > They seem quite aggressive in that if you make a noise or go to the window > they come clustering around you, and I daren't go outside as they just > bombard your face. Obviously we're going to move but in the meantime is > there anything that acts as a bee repellent? I don't want to have to start > killing next door's stock, especially as he's our landlord.... > > TIA for any suggestions. Help??? > Winnie > > PS The dog got stung so now I'm really p*ssed off. > > Article 34082 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Winnie" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Help - hundreds of bees round house Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 21:26:35 +1300 Organization: Ihug Limited Lines: 45 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 203-173-201-56.nzwide.ihug.co.nz X-Trace: lust.ihug.co.nz 1046939197 16793 203.173.201.56 (6 Mar 2003 08:26:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ihug.co.nz NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 08:26:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!nntp-relay.ihug.net!newsfeeds.ihug.co.nz!lust.ihug.co.nz!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34082 "Peter Edwards" wrote in message news:b46u3b$5cs$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk... > Have you talked to the owner? Yep, he just says that they won't sting me, and so far he's right but then I haven't given them much of a chance. They *act* in what seems to me an aggressive manner, zooming very fast directly at my head and face, but for all I know they're trying to say Hi. I just know I do not like it one bit :o| > > Could be bees preparing to swarm and sending out scouts to look for a new > home, but they are not usually aggressive. Another possibility is that if > the weather is very hot and dry they may be looking for water; if so, the > beekeeper could provide this to solve the problem. Aha, thanks, I wonder if the stream has dried up? Although it poured it down yesterday so I wouldn't have thought so. Is it at all possible they're looking for food? Sweet smells such as baking definitely attract them, so I've had to stop that. > > Are they really aggressive or are there just a large number? How many times > have you been stung (I would not count the dog - not being unkind, but dogs > often snap at bees and then get stung). Large number, literally hundreds, and they *seem* aggressive but only the dog has been stung - I think they must have been buzzing all over his bed and he lay on them. > > I would not keep the doors and windows shut as bees do not usually come > indoors - and if they do then open windows will allow them to get back out. Oh, they come indoors all right! The first time this happened the kitchen was full of them and the beekeeper had to shoo them all out for me. I do big scary animals, heights, speed, you name it but I don't do bees! Winnie Article 34083 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 07:28:01 -0600 From: "me" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: Help - hundreds of bees round house Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 07:27:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: <786cnWkjwrF_0fqjXTWcoQ@crcom.net> Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.198.128.13 X-Trace: sv3-FUCTpWjsrXWINNMTsspRpebYlePG9jZeWJX85UgB2hhkpQovIMb7Xu8r0gVFMaLUf2hTZ27frgSyhsa!TZCMgAai6atxbeNioJl4JWAFzi/Ok/3QmEbfg+Ei/lnb7/QClmINv4tkahk/l9XDxCGnvA== X-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!199.45.49.37!cyclone1.gnilink.net!central.cox.net!cox.net!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.crcom.net!news.crcom.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34083 Hi Winnie, I think your problem is that some bees have taken up residence near or within the structure of your house - not inside. The numbers you describe are too many, even if the apiary is next door - unless the hives next door are something like 20 feet away. The other tip off is that they are going after your face, and I'm not just talking about buzzing around your head. Bees don't do that unless they are giving you a warning that you're too close to their hive. One other tip off is "head butting". Often, bees will come at you at high speed and actually run into you by "head butting", but won't sting. This behavior is the very first sign you're too close to their hive. If you don't leave the area, this will progress to stinging. Okay, now lets say that the bees ARE from the apiary next door. You might just be in their flight path. This is easy to fix. If there is a solid, high fence that the bees must go over to go in your direction, then the bees will go over the fence and stay at that height for some distance before coming down to a lower level. In other words, they will fly well above your head and leave you alone. Of course, if they are hungry or thirsty and you have what they need, that's a different story. Your neighbor is correct. If the bees are just there because you have something for them to eat or drink, or just in their flight path, they won't sting. But the business about going after your face tells me that you are too close to a hive. Look around and see if you can see bees going in and out under the eves of the house or possible under it. Also look around for some other place that they may have made a home - a shed, large pipe, pile of wood, hollow tree, attic vent, etc... Your best bet on solving the problem is to do some observation. You might borrow a bee veil to put over your head just to make you more comfortable while observing - no need to zip it around the bottom. As you have already noticed, the bees go after the face and hair. You shouldn't have any worries about stings on the rest of your body unless you actually disturb the hive, and then it's not likely. Who knows, after you learn some more about bee behavior, you might take up beekeeping. It really is a good hobby. Hope this helps. West Texas Mark Article 34085 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Winnie" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Help - hundreds of bees round house Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 05:38:21 +1300 Organization: Ihug Limited Lines: 84 Message-ID: References: <786cnWkjwrF_0fqjXTWcoQ@crcom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203-173-202-81.nzwide.ihug.co.nz X-Trace: lust.ihug.co.nz 1046968702 10626 203.173.202.81 (6 Mar 2003 16:38:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ihug.co.nz NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 16:38:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!aanews.merit.edu!gumby.it.wmich.edu!out.nntp.be!propagator2-SanJose!in.nntp.be!newsfeed01.tsnz.net!news!newsfeeds.ihug.co.nz!lust.ihug.co.nz!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34085 "me" wrote in message news:786cnWkjwrF_0fqjXTWcoQ@crcom.net... > Hi Winnie, > > I think your problem is that some bees have taken up residence near or > within the structure of your house - not inside. The numbers you describe > are too many, even if the apiary is next door - unless the hives next door > are something like 20 feet away. The other tip off is that they are going > after your face, and I'm not just talking about buzzing around your head. > Bees don't do that unless they are giving you a warning that you're too > close to their hive. One other tip off is "head butting". Often, bees will > come at you at high speed and actually run into you by "head butting", but > won't sting. This behavior is the very first sign you're too close to their > hive. If you don't leave the area, this will progress to stinging. Thanks Mark! They do indeed "head butt"; I was assuming this was accidental as they are flying so fast. Fascinating. I've tried to see if they're entering the house but can't see it, but then I haven't been brave enough to stand outside and observe on a really busy day and see where they're going. I suppose they could be in the roof or floor cavity but wouldn't we hear them buzzing? It's very quiet here. The hives are a good few hundred metres away. Unless of course some have been put nearer and I haven't noticed; we're surrounded by pasture so that's a possibility. I'll have a look later. > > Okay, now lets say that the bees ARE from the apiary next door. You might > just be in their flight path. This is easy to fix. If there is a solid, > high fence that the bees must go over to go in your direction, then the bees > will go over the fence and stay at that height for some distance before > coming down to a lower level. In other words, they will fly well above your > head and leave you alone. Of course, if they are hungry or thirsty and you > have what they need, that's a different story. No fences as such, just a few trees. The bees don't seem to be going anywhere, they just congregate and then seem to buzz around randomly. > > Your neighbor is correct. If the bees are just there because you have > something for them to eat or drink, or just in their flight path, they won't > sting. But the business about going after your face tells me that you are > too close to a hive. Look around and see if you can see bees going in and > out under the eves of the house or possible under it. Also look around for > some other place that they may have made a home - a shed, large pipe, pile > of wood, hollow tree, attic vent, etc... Your best bet on solving the > problem is to do some observation. You might borrow a bee veil to put over > your head just to make you more comfortable while observing - no need to zip > it around the bottom. As you have already noticed, the bees go after the > face and hair. I'll do that, or at least try! Thanks for the suggestions about where they might be living. At times like this a remote control webcam would be useful :o) > You shouldn't have any worries about stings on the rest of > your body unless you actually disturb the hive, and then it's not likely. > Who knows, after you learn some more about bee behavior, you might take up > beekeeping. It really is a good hobby. Might need a few stiff drinks first! It's not so much being stung that scares me, it's the noise when they buzz around your face which makes me cringe, silly I know. > > Hope this helps. > West Texas Mark > It helps heaps, thanks Mark. Cheers Winnie Article 34086 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: paul_bilodeau1@excite.com (Paul Bilodeau) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Requirements for honey processing anyone? Date: 6 Mar 2003 09:23:25 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.186.164.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1046971405 25504 127.0.0.1 (6 Mar 2003 17:23:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Mar 2003 17:23:25 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34086 Hi Steve, I thought that I might add my 2 cents worth... I have checked into this topic and have found that there a a few places where you can get the info. that you are looking for. First, check with your State Bee Inspector, they are a great source of all kinds of knowledge - particularly regarding your state and specific location. Second, check with your local Cooperative Extension, they usually have a few publications that may cover your local home food production laws. Third, run an internet search for "Home Food Production Laws", this will probably turn up many responses. Fourth, ask another beekeeper in your area what they had to do. Fifth, contact anyone that runs a home based catering service, they will have had to have met the same criteria for their license. Typically here in Maine, I have been told that the inspector will be looking for a stainless steel sink (1 not 3), water quality, hot water temperature, and types of materials used in construction such as: 1. non-porous floor surface, easily cleaned without bacteria build-up (sheet vinyl instead of bare concrete), 2. non-porous counter surfaces, (formica instead of bare wood), 3. you may also have to agree to a certain cleaning schedule and agree to use a bleach/water solution to insure sanitary conditions. Here in Maine, the inspection is done once (unless there are reported problems), and then you have to pay a yearly fee to stay current. You also need a sellers license. Hope this helps, Article 34087 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 10 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lazurus106@aol.com (Lazurus106) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 06 Mar 2003 20:00:24 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Help - hundreds of bees round house Message-ID: <20030306150024.27402.00000006@mb-fd.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!aanews.merit.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!lnsnews.lns.cornell.edu!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m2.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34087 Hi All, You have told the landlord /beekeeper yes?He's your best resouce if its any of the above. He will be interested and want to take a look, Also it might be a way to get a chance to learn a bit of beekeeping yourself. Don't worry about the dog they usually have a pretty quick learning curve. I have a pair one a black shaggy beast (read bear like) that the bee's really dislike and a golden retriver they ignore as long as he isn't bumping up against the hives. Cheers, Dave in Madison,WI USA Article 34088 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Help - hundreds of bees round house Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:32:40 -0000 Lines: 67 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.222.248 X-Trace: newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk 1046982778 6829 217.135.222.248 (6 Mar 2003 20:32:58 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Mar 2003 20:32:58 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!colt.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34088 Difficult to advise further without actually seeing what is going on. Might be an idea to get a second opinion from another beekeeper - if you can find one who is not a friend of your landlord! Seems unlikely that you will be stung - unless you happen to trap or squash a bee accidentally. Hope that helps! -- Peter Edwards beekeepers@stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk "Winnie" wrote in message news:b470ns$gcp$1@lust.ihug.co.nz... > > "Peter Edwards" wrote in > message news:b46u3b$5cs$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk... > > Have you talked to the owner? > > Yep, he just says that they won't sting me, and so far he's right but then I > haven't given them much of a chance. They *act* in what seems to me an > aggressive manner, zooming very fast directly at my head and face, but for > all I know they're trying to say Hi. I just know I do not like it one bit > :o| > > > > > Could be bees preparing to swarm and sending out scouts to look for a new > > home, but they are not usually aggressive. Another possibility is that if > > the weather is very hot and dry they may be looking for water; if so, the > > beekeeper could provide this to solve the problem. > > Aha, thanks, I wonder if the stream has dried up? Although it poured it down > yesterday so I wouldn't have thought so. Is it at all possible they're > looking for food? Sweet smells such as baking definitely attract them, so > I've had to stop that. > > > > > Are they really aggressive or are there just a large number? How many > times > > have you been stung (I would not count the dog - not being unkind, but > dogs > > often snap at bees and then get stung). > > Large number, literally hundreds, and they *seem* aggressive but only the > dog has been stung - I think they must have been buzzing all over his bed > and he lay on them. > > > > > I would not keep the doors and windows shut as bees do not usually come > > indoors - and if they do then open windows will allow them to get back > out. > > Oh, they come indoors all right! The first time this happened the kitchen > was full of them and the beekeeper had to shoo them all out for me. I do big > scary animals, heights, speed, you name it but I don't do bees! > > Winnie > > Article 34089 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Winnie" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Help - hundreds of bees round house Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 09:55:33 +1300 Organization: Ihug Limited Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <20030306150024.27402.00000006@mb-fd.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203-173-203-7.nzwide.ihug.co.nz X-Trace: lust.ihug.co.nz 1046984134 6318 203.173.203.7 (6 Mar 2003 20:55:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ihug.co.nz NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:55:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!news.xtra.co.nz!newsfeeds.ihug.co.nz!lust.ihug.co.nz!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34089 "Lazurus106" wrote in message news:20030306150024.27402.00000006@mb-fd.aol.com... > Hi All, > You have told the landlord /beekeeper yes?He's your best resouce if its any of > the above. He will be interested and want to take a look, He seems pretty unconcerned; I told him the first time it happened and he said they were probably just hungry. > Also it might be a > way to get a chance to learn a bit of beekeeping yourself. Not my forte I'm afraid, I'm sticking with two and four legged stock. > Don't worry about the dog they usually have a pretty quick learning curve. I > have a pair one a black shaggy beast (read bear like) that the bee's really > dislike and a golden retriver they ignore as long as he isn't bumping up > against the hives. > Cheers, > Dave in Madison,WI USA Cool. It's just given ours one more thing to be paranoid about..... Thanks! Winnie Article 34090 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Rodney Isom" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: How to tell when nectar flow is on? Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 19:24:54 -0600 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 17 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!freenix!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-04!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34090 Hi, Here's a question from a relatively new beekeeper: How can I tell when a nectar flow has started & stopped? I'm not very savvy about the local nectar-producing vegetation, although I'm trying to learn, but is there some way to tell from observing the hive what the current nectar supply is like? Thanks, Rodney ****************** Rodney Isom North Alabama rodneyi@xyz.hiwaay.net (remove 'xyz' to reply) Article 34091 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Just for fun! Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:27:42 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 36 Message-ID: <3e68903d$0$42657$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.215.97.74 X-Trace: 1047040061 dread11.news.tele.dk 42657 195.215.97.74 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34091 I have put up a palm demo with my latest palm software installed. http://apimo.dk/programs/palmdemo.zip The real software is now fixed concerning the barcode support. I had to get hand of a STP1550 palm Os based scanner to fix this. Sorry. If you have a Palm OS powered barcode scanner then the Bidata and the included palm software will work together. You will have to do the following: erase the palm bidata from handheld/scanner install the handheld software from within Bidata filter or search the data/hives you will transfer to the Palm. Check the prepare for palm checkbox. print out the barcodes. It will also generate the barcode text needed for the scanner.make a hotsync with bidata running. The data selected by filtring or searching is now transfered to the palm/scanner. If you use the Palm then let the stylus remain at home instead of use a used up roller pen. Place your palm on a wooden plate with bur tape. You can also place a note block on the plate in same way. You can extra stapple on a plastic sheet to fold over when not in use. -- Best regards Jorn Johanesson visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software and other beekeeping stuff. Article 34092 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 06:58:07 -0600 From: "me" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: How to tell when nectar flow is on? Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 06:57:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Lines: 36 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.198.128.111 X-Trace: sv3-YUC6SzEhusKsy9XMqRyOUj4/xJOO8AXIBtLHZxXwe4fUVJbUFe/jrhWQCu8TPdXscloIhc0pCxUM9QM!eWb2qWjEURPkuvVuUMrGXw1GNm57rjvNALgiPfYxogfCUOUxea5EicQgxBhSKf6GYEpIv/I= X-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!news.umass.edu!micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.newsfeed.com!news-in.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!nntp2.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.crcom.net!news.crcom.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34092 Here are a couple of ways to tell if a nectar flow is on. First look at the entrance of the hives. If the bees are coming in and out "with a purpose" and some are carrying pollen on there legs, then a nectar flow is likely. If the bees come up to the entrance and hesitate or hover a while before landing and entering, then the hive is likely being robbed. A second sign is to put some honey, not a lot, out in the bee yard. If they virtually ignore it, then that means they are finding their preferred food, nectar somewhere near by. You can also put some sugar water out. They will go after the sugar water more readily, but if there's a GOOD nectar flow on, they will ignore the sugar water too. There are other clues, but there are easy. West Texas Mark "Rodney Isom" wrote in message news:v6ft6qc68jgjb4@corp.supernews.com... Hi, Here's a question from a relatively new beekeeper: How can I tell when a nectar flow has started & stopped? I'm not very savvy about the local nectar-producing vegetation, although I'm trying to learn, but is there some way to tell from observing the hive what the current nectar supply is like? Thanks, Rodney ****************** Rodney Isom North Alabama rodneyi@xyz.hiwaay.net (remove 'xyz' to reply) Article 34093 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: How to tell when nectar flow is on? Date: 7 Mar 2003 07:29:35 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 18 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0303070729.25217102@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.15.89 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047050976 11141 127.0.0.1 (7 Mar 2003 15:29:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Mar 2003 15:29:36 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!128.230.129.106!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-xit-09!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34093 "Rodney Isom" wrote in message news:... > Hi, > > Here's a question from a relatively new beekeeper: How can I tell when a > nectar flow has started & stopped? I'm not very savvy about the local > nectar-producing vegetation, although I'm trying to learn, but is there some > way to tell from observing the hive what the current nectar supply is like? > > Lots of hive activity Bees are relatively gentle New white wax is formed on inner cover Lots of uncapped nectar/honey YOU can SMELL the nectar being ripened New white wax on the inner cover means you missed a part of the flow and should have supered sooner. Article 34094 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "huestis'" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <3e56a33d@212.67.96.135> Subject: Re: Rendering wax Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:27:40 -0800 Lines: 19 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.23.5.17 Message-ID: <3e68d7db_4@corp.newsgroups.com> X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1047058395 209.23.5.17 (7 Mar 2003 11:33:15 -0600) X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. X-Comments3: IMPORTANT: Under NO circumstances will postings containing illegal or copyrighted material through this service be tolerated!! X-Report: Please report illegal or inappropriate use to X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, INCLUDING the body (DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 100,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!news-out.newsfeeds.com!l2!corp.newsgroups.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34094 Hi, . I've never > tried it and I'd like to know how you get the dirty crap to separate from > the wax. Does it rise to the top as dross? Also, how do you deal with the > grunge left in the melting pot? reply: I use a 15 gallon drum w/ immersion heater. Toss 5 to seven frames in at around 190 F flip in two minutes and the wax melts right out. The slum and wax is scooped out and run through double cones that I have rigged up to strain. Clay -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Article 34095 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 7 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: ooffy@aol.com (Ooffy) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 08 Mar 2003 23:45:07 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Requirements for honey processing anyone? Message-ID: <20030308184507.18868.00000048@mb-ci.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!usenet01.sei.cmu.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m2.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34095 The Federal Government has no regualtions on honey processing, this is handled by either your State agency incharge of Food and Safety (here in Oregon, it is part of the Dept. of Agriculture), or your county if the state has no regulations. Ron Bennett Luckiamute Bee Article 34096 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey Bottles Date: 9 Mar 2003 11:48:16 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 10 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0303090826.3803b034@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.31.150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047239298 32473 127.0.0.1 (9 Mar 2003 19:48:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Mar 2003 19:48:18 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34096 "me" wrote in message news:... > I'm looking for plastic bottles I can use for honey. Does anyone know of a > good supplier? > > Thanks > West Texas Mark Betterbee has econmy bottles with either flip top or spout type closures. The hold a pint or about 1.5lbs of honey. Roughly 15 cents each. Article 34097 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "allen" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: EU OTC Residue Comments Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:31:38 -0700 Organization: honeybeeworld point com Lines: 35 Message-ID: Reply-To: "allen" NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin-184-53.calgary.primus.ca (209.90.184.53) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1047324701 66773710 209.90.184.53 (16 [58605]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!dialin-184-53.calgary.primus.CA!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34097 Peter Dillon in France sent me a letter indicating that -- in light of the new ultra-sensitive tests available -- a packer in the EU has been examining honey for OTC residues and concluded that spring treatments can cause unacceptable levels in honey. Beekeepers are proposing an MRL of 15ppb (Yup, that's *B*illion -- an US billion, I trust). A few years ago we were thinking in terms of parts per *M*illion, but now we are looking 1000X more closely. The letter and more info are in my diary at http://www.honeybeeworld.com/diary/ . If you are looking for it, go back one page and look at the bottom. For anyone interested, diary topics since March 1 include the following: * Patty feeding * AFB detection by honey sampling * OTC residue concerns in the EU * Canada bee importations * Tracheal detection * The positive side of the bio-terrorism scare * Honeybeeworld forum * Selling bees and hives * A great free online virus scan * Apache2 and Perl After 8 years or so on the web, I've recently moved my site from internode.net to honeybeeworld.com, so for any who have bookmarked my sites, please update your links. Thanks. allen http://www.honeybeeworld.com Article 34098 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: d9smith@mail.localnet.com (David Smith) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: WHAT IS RACISM? Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:52:31 -0000 Organization: Information Unlimited Message-ID: References: <25ca63b6.0211172319.2c6c9d3d@posting.google.com> <2BgC9.831102$v53.31088279@news3.calgary.shaw.ca> <3ByQdsAnas29Ew78@denrosa.demon.co.uk> <993fd181.0211200842.3f216771@posting.google.com> X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 7 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!ppp619.tc-1.syr-ch.ny.localnet.com!user Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34098 In article <993fd181.0211200842.3f216771@posting.google.com>, loggermike@shasta.com (Mike) wrote: He may have some valid points, but . . . it should not have been on beekeeping. David Smith Article 34099 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: d9smith@mail.localnet.com (David Smith) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey recipies! Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:00:46 -0000 Organization: Information Unlimited Message-ID: References: X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 7 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news-feed.riddles.org.uk!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!ppp619.tc-1.syr-ch.ny.localnet.com!user Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34099 In article , "Wuffman" wrote: Peel cloves of garlic, cover with honey. This slow because honey moves slowy. Wait until garlic softens up. Seperate the cloves and garlic. A teaspoon can be a home made antisore throat treatment, or the begining of a great glaze. Article 34100 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 62 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: bobpursley@aol.com (Bob Pursley) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 11 Mar 2003 00:29:19 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Virus warning in email on beekeeping group Message-ID: <20030310192919.17823.00000152@mb-fe.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!64.12.151.226!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m1.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34100 In the last two days, I have received email ( A very new website) that contained virus in the attachements. One mail was purported to be from adam finkelstein, the other from Barry. Here are the mail tracings on each: Return-Path: Received: from rly-za01.mx.aol.com (rly-za01.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.97]) by air-za03.mail.aol.com (v92.17) with ESMTP id MAILINZA32-22753e6d126a3a4; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:32:11 -0500 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.22]) by rly-za01.mx.aol.com (v92.16) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINZA12-2dc3e6d125318b; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:31:47 -0500 Received: from asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.145]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.05 (built Nov 6 2002)) with ESMTP id <0HBK00FHJ16V2I@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for bobpursley@aol.com; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:30:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h2AMU1ct003354 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:30:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from [67.80.125.130] by asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (bmifilter); Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:25:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:30:23 -0500 (EST) From: adamf Subject: A very new website To: bobpursley@aol.com Message-id: <200303102230.h2AMU1ct003354@asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_QE1SsfuPQ/Cf4TTheAfd/Q)" X-BLTSYMAVREINSERT: 0P8cETJt5j4fGYJN+snWS0hqeowA and the other Return-Path: Received: from rly-za01.mx.aol.com (rly-za01.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.97]) by air-za03.mail.aol.com (v92.17) with ESMTP id MAILINZA32-22753e6d126a3a4; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:32:11 -0500 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.22]) by rly-za01.mx.aol.com (v92.16) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINZA12-2dc3e6d125318b; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:31:47 -0500 Received: from asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.145]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.05 (built Nov 6 2002)) with ESMTP id <0HBK00FHJ16V2I@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for bobpursley@aol.com; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:30:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h2AMU1ct003354 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:30:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from [67.80.125.130] by asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (bmifilter); Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:25:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:30:23 -0500 (EST) From: adamf Subject: A very new website To: bobpursley@aol.com Message-id: <200303102230.h2AMU1ct003354@asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_QE1SsfuPQ/Cf4TTheAfd/Q)" X-BLTSYMAVREINSERT: 0P8cETJt5j4fGYJN+snWS0hqeowA Be forewarned, and thank goodness for virus screeners. Bob Pursley Article 34101 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Barry Birkey Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Virus warning in email on beekeeping group Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:41:48 -0600 Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <20030310192919.17823.00000152@mb-fe.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZUojWa5oEqAjdAoBUZl7QjZfW/ihNq2aQnGVM5BjlzMlfqSteNtZId X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 Mar 2003 02:41:25 GMT User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34101 > From: bobpursley@aol.com (Bob Pursley) > Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com > Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping > Date: 11 Mar 2003 00:29:19 GMT > Subject: Virus warning in email on beekeeping group > > In the last two days, I have received email ( A very new website) that > contained virus in the attachements. One mail was purported to be from adam > finkelstein, the other from Barry. Here are the mail tracings on each: > Be forewarned, and thank goodness for virus screeners. > Bob Pursley Virus warnings lack significance in my opinion. If you're going to be active on the internet, you're going to be dealing with viruses, hoaxes, worms and a lot of opinions. I receive viruses all the time from others. I'd be posting a warning everyday if I did the same. Just because you got something from Adam and myself doesn't mean we were the originators of such mail. Anyway, screen away! Regards, Barry Article 34102 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Alias error Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:52:54 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 13 Message-ID: <3e6db1df$0$42665$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.249.242.52 X-Trace: 1047376352 dread11.news.tele.dk 42665 195.249.242.52 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34102 If you get an alias error in my software then install the Palm support. Sorry I was unaware of this error because I of course have this installed. Then the software will run without getting to this error. -- Best regards Jorn Johanesson visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software and other beekeeping stuff. Article 34103 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <3e6db1df$0$42665$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk> Subject: Re: Alias error Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:36:58 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 21 Message-ID: <3e6dbc5a$0$31977$edfadb0f@dread12.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.215.97.103 X-Trace: 1047379034 dread12.news.tele.dk 31977 195.215.97.103 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.vmunix.org!newsfeed.hanau.net!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34103 Please fellows, I can't fix errors I am not aware of so please reort the erros you find. "Jorn Johanesson" skrev i en meddelelse news:3e6db1df$0$42665$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk... > If you get an alias error in my software then install the Palm support. > Sorry I was unaware of this error because I of course have this installed. > Then the software will run without getting to this error. > > -- > Best regards > > Jorn Johanesson > > visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software > and other beekeeping stuff. > > Article 34104 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Update istallation password Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:33:04 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 26 Message-ID: <3e6dc983$0$156$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.249.242.78 X-Trace: 1047382404 dread11.news.tele.dk 156 195.249.242.78 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34104 Dear fellows! Because of this Alias error I will give the password for the update free. It is Melifica! the update http://apimo.dk/programs/bidataupdate.exe 6.5MB will fix this error. the full archive need to be installed and if you have thrown it out beeing pissed of then please : http://apimo.dk/programs/beekeping_hivenote.exe I am very sorry for this created error, the software should of course also run if no palm handheld avilable. -- Best regards Jorn Johanesson visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software and other beekeeping stuff. Article 34105 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "vinel10" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <20030310192919.17823.00000152@mb-fe.aol.com> Subject: Re: Virus warning in email on beekeeping group Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:20:17 -0500 Lines: 32 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.90.92.100 Message-ID: <3e6e2982_3@corp.newsgroups.com> X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1047406978 63.90.92.100 (11 Mar 2003 12:22:58 -0600) X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. X-Comments3: IMPORTANT: Under NO circumstances will postings containing illegal or copyrighted material through this service be tolerated!! X-Report: Please report illegal or inappropriate use to X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, INCLUDING the body (DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 100,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!xmission!local-out2.newsfeeds.com!corp.newsgroups.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34105 best way to keep from getting a virus do not open any forwards "Barry Birkey" wrote in message news:BA92A90C.11FFA%barry@birkey.com... > > From: bobpursley@aol.com (Bob Pursley) > > Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com > > Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping > > Date: 11 Mar 2003 00:29:19 GMT > > Subject: Virus warning in email on beekeeping group > > > > In the last two days, I have received email ( A very new website) that > > contained virus in the attachements. One mail was purported to be from adam > > finkelstein, the other from Barry. Here are the mail tracings on each: > > > Be forewarned, and thank goodness for virus screeners. > > Bob Pursley > > Virus warnings lack significance in my opinion. If you're going to be active > on the internet, you're going to be dealing with viruses, hoaxes, worms and > a lot of opinions. I receive viruses all the time from others. I'd be > posting a warning everyday if I did the same. Just because you got something > from Adam and myself doesn't mean we were the originators of such mail. > Anyway, screen away! > > Regards, > Barry > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Article 34106 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: albert.cannon@lineone.net (albert cannon) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Virus warning in email on beekeeping group Date: 11 Mar 2003 16:30:05 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 9 Message-ID: <4169b71c.0303111630.7572ae35@posting.google.com> References: <20030310192919.17823.00000152@mb-fe.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.225.118.9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047429006 26280 127.0.0.1 (12 Mar 2003 00:30:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Mar 2003 00:30:06 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34106 bobpursley@aol.com (Bob Pursley) wrote in message news:<20030310192919.17823.00000152@mb-fe.aol.com>... > In the last two days, I have received email ( A very new website) that > contained virus in the attachements. One mail was purported to be from adam > finkelstein, the other from Barry. Here are the mail tracings on each: > > get yourself some form of virus detector to start with. Then dont open any attattachments unless you are sure who they are from, and even then be careful. I only read/open emails from people who i know. if one gets by then my virus detecter kicks in. albert cannon Article 34107 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: JAF Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: See my EBay Ad. Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:55:51 +0000 Organization: Or Chaos? You Choose! Lines: 3 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: pc3-scun2-4-cust12.nott.cable.ntl.com (81.108.83.12) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1047462951 67041205 81.108.83.12 (16 [154186]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 X-No-Archive: yes Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!pc3-scun2-4-cust12.nott.cable.ntl.COM!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34107 Please take a look at - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=519&item=2312137836&rd=1 Article 34108 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: drezac@greenapple.com (Duane Rezac) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Lost 3 Hives - Advice on starting over needed. Date: 12 Mar 2003 08:46:22 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 28 Message-ID: <7ec141c5.0303120846.4efe81bd@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.26.122.12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047487583 10586 127.0.0.1 (12 Mar 2003 16:46:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Mar 2003 16:46:23 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34108 I'm in South Central Ohio, and lost all 3 of my hives this winter during the last month. Any suggestions on what I should do to the hives to get them ready to start over other than to shop-vac out all the dead bees? It looks like it was weather related, I did not see any sign of other problems in the frames I have inspected. 2 of the hives still have quite a bit of honey remaining. 1 has very little left (but it was a new hive this year, we had a bad summer for honey,and I was not sure it would make it through a rough winter). I was feeding all 3 candy, and on a warm day just before our last cold spell added candy to all 3 hives - all 3 appeared very strong (at first I thought I would just lift the covers and place the candy on the frames above the cluster, but there was so much activity I had to go back and completly suit up). All 3 hives were treated with Apistan this fall for mites. Our local inspector is planning to come over this weekend to take a look to make sure there was not a disease problem, I'll wait until then to clean everything out. Thanks. Duane Rezac Clover Fields Farm Article 34109 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: aud@yahoo.com (audrey) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: saw my first swarm! Date: 12 Mar 2003 13:30:14 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 29 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.121.169.207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047504614 13480 127.0.0.1 (12 Mar 2003 21:30:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Mar 2003 21:30:14 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34109 it's been a very warm and relatively dry winter here (in the San Francisco Bay Area) and the bees are active. I haven't done my inspection yet (procrastination) or put supers on my backyard hive, yet. I saw what must have been a swarm go over my suburban house today! I've only heard of swarms as those already at rest in a tree (i.e.) and as a "ball" of bees. I had just returned from a trip to Costco and had let the dog in the house when I heard a really loud buzzing sound from the backyard. I ventured out and tried to determine where the buzzing was from - it was all above me - 20-30 feet up. There were enough bees to see dancing shadows on the ground, but not to visually create a dense bunch. I ran back thru the house back out front (I had left the doors to the minivan open, while I unloaded my costco goodies) and I saw/heard the swarm continue across the street and over the neighbors house and they were gone. The swarm moved quickly, I thought! The swarm wasn't from my hive, unless they got the idea to swarm just today and left - no evidence of increasing numbers. And the hive was strong last year (at least, it produced very well, which I assume means a strong queen). Just coincidence the swarm went up/over my hive? audrey ishizaki, who is thinking that the supers better go on soon! Article 34110 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: saw my first swarm! Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:16:06 -0000 Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.190.148 X-Trace: newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk 1047510979 10929 217.135.190.148 (12 Mar 2003 23:16:19 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Mar 2003 23:16:19 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34110 "audrey" wrote in message news:d1573943.0303121330.accce5a@posting.google.com... > The swarm wasn't from my hive, That what they all say! Have you checked? Are there sealed queen cells? -- Peter Edwards beekeepers@stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk Article 34111 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Lost 3 Hives - Advice on starting over needed. Date: 12 Mar 2003 23:35:44 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 4 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0303122335.48e32450@posting.google.com> References: <7ec141c5.0303120846.4efe81bd@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.69.71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047540944 19382 127.0.0.1 (13 Mar 2003 07:35:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Mar 2003 07:35:44 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34111 > > All 3 hives were treated with Apistan this fall for mites. > If you waited until fall you treated far to late. Article 34112 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Winter Losses Date: 12 Mar 2003 23:36:37 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 1 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.69.71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047540998 19516 127.0.0.1 (13 Mar 2003 07:36:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Mar 2003 07:36:38 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34112 Reports in and around Southeast CT and RI indicate hard winter losses. Article 34113 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "mark mski" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Winter Losses Lines: 15 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.252.99.222 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr10.news.prodigy.com 1047552231 ST000 64.252.99.222 (Thu, 13 Mar 2003 05:43:51 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 05:43:51 EST Organization: Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com X-UserInfo1: TSU[@I_AOHUOVPLXKROP^T\APRY@A@LLBIPZ_GYOJZ]BGIELNVUEAE[YETZPIWWI[FCIZA^NBFXZ_D[BFNTCNVPDTNTKHWXKB@X^B_OCJLPZ@ET_O[G\XSG@E\G[ZKVLBL^CJINM@I_KVIOR\T_M_AW_M[_BWU_HFA_]@A_A^SGFAUDE_DFTMQPFWVW[QPJN Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:43:51 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!xmission!news-out.triton.net!triton.net!newsfeeder.triton.net!prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr10.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34113 "Beecrofter" wrote in message news:23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com... > Reports in and around Southeast CT and RI indicate hard winter losses. I live in west central Connecticut and I was fortunate. I'm only a hobbyist with three hives, but two of them were attacked by a bear in November. The hive bodies and frames littered across my yard. I was able to check them out this weekend and was pleasantly surprised that they made it so far. The winter has been long and the bees are a little anxious to get going. mark Article 34114 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Winter Losses Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:13:11 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3e7083a5.259366406@news1.radix.net> References: <23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip183.sns.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.radix.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34114 On 12 Mar 2003 23:36:37 -0800, bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) wrote: >Reports in and around Southeast CT and RI indicate hard winter losses. They are bad here in Maryland as well. I think the drout keep them from building up for the winter. beekeep Article 34115 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:16:05 -0600 From: "me" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <7ec141c5.0303120846.4efe81bd@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Lost 3 Hives - Advice on starting over needed. Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:15:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Lines: 38 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.198.128.33 X-Trace: sv3-roVunRGCMobT1GQ1ANpp0ewAn22cBb57LXdnvU2JE3Mb23+0T0koFOBLBVUA9heRIQYc+fXOwJBLTlD!JN2A6j2g3hcqvWyEXLxUyuP3LDgpm5Eop7qXcDPrIa7qfQiYypkR5wyAuWJzNyjgw3bl1Q== X-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.vmunix.org!newsfeed.stueberl.de!cox.net!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.crcom.net!news.crcom.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34115 You may have experienced Tracheal Mite losses. Winter is when this happens. There aren't very many new bees and the older bees become weak and succumb to the mite. Your mite strips won't kill T Mites. If you belong to Norland Beekeepers, ask Joe Waggle about his losses. West Texas Mark -Original Message- I'm in South Central Ohio, and lost all 3 of my hives this winter during the last month. Any suggestions on what I should do to the hives to get them ready to start over other than to shop-vac out all the dead bees? It looks like it was weather related, I did not see any sign of other problems in the frames I have inspected. 2 of the hives still have quite a bit of honey remaining. 1 has very little left (but it was a new hive this year, we had a bad summer for honey,and I was not sure it would make it through a rough winter). I was feeding all 3 candy, and on a warm day just before our last cold spell added candy to all 3 hives - all 3 appeared very strong (at first I thought I would just lift the covers and place the candy on the frames above the cluster, but there was so much activity I had to go back and completly suit up). All 3 hives were treated with Apistan this fall for mites. Our local inspector is planning to come over this weekend to take a look to make sure there was not a disease problem, I'll wait until then to clean everything out. Thanks. Duane Rezac Clover Fields Farm Article 34116 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "huestis'" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: new small cell study Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:19:06 -0800 Lines: 22 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.23.5.65 Message-ID: <3e7094b6_3@corp.newsgroups.com> X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1047565494 209.23.5.65 (13 Mar 2003 08:24:54 -0600) X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. X-Comments3: IMPORTANT: Under NO circumstances will postings containing illegal or copyrighted material through this service be tolerated!! X-Report: Please report illegal or inappropriate use to X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, INCLUDING the body (DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 100,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!xmission!news-out.newsfeeds.com!l2!corp.newsgroups.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34116 For those who care: > Hello Everyone, > > Barry Birkey sent me this URL. Check it out: > > http://www.funpecrp.com.br/gmr/year2003/vol1-2/gmr0057_full_text.htm > > It confirms some of the stuff those of us on small cell are seeing. The > results would have been even more dramatic had the colony been fully > regressed on small cell. > > Thank's Barry. > > Hey you guys on Norlanders and Organics pass the URL on if it's meaningful to you. > > Best Wishes > Dennis -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Article 34117 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Steve Huston" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Winter Losses Lines: 20 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <5k1ca.76283$6b3.265207@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.62.89.183 X-Complaints-To: abuse@attbi.com X-Trace: rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net 1047568769 24.62.89.183 (Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:19:29 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:19:29 GMT Organization: AT&T Broadband Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:19:29 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34117 "Beecrofter" wrote in message news:23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com... > Reports in and around Southeast CT and RI indicate hard winter losses. I'm in southeastern Massachusetts (near RI) - 2 of my 4 have died. The other two are still kickin'. They had high varroa counts last summer. I pulled the honey early and put in Apistan to no avail. Still high counts after Apistan. Used a different treatment after that, but it may have been too late. All four of the colonies got new queens last year (they all swarmed) and I let the queens mate naturally around here. Not an approach I'm likely to try again soon. Varroa skyrocketed and the bees have eaten more stores than in the past. I'm going with NWC queens this year, as I've had very good results with them in the past. Steve Huston Article 34118 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: drezac@greenapple.com (Duane Rezac) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Lost 3 Hives - Advice on starting over needed. Date: 13 Mar 2003 09:26:53 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 16 Message-ID: <7ec141c5.0303130926.66bcfe89@posting.google.com> References: <7ec141c5.0303120846.4efe81bd@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.26.122.13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047576413 24445 127.0.0.1 (13 Mar 2003 17:26:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Mar 2003 17:26:53 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34118 "me" wrote in message news:... > You may have experienced Tracheal Mite losses. Winter is when this happens. > There aren't very many new bees and the older bees become weak and succumb > to the mite. Your mite strips won't kill T Mites. If you belong to Norland > Beekeepers, ask Joe Waggle about his losses. > > West Texas Mark > Our inspector suggested the same thing. While the tests done earlier this year did not show a problem with T Mites, He told me he suggests treating for both anyway, as they are harder to detect earlier in the year when the hive inspections and test are done. I just treated for V-mites, so that may have been my problem. Duane Rezac Article 34119 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <3E70F069.D87BE107@hcis.net> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:56:09 -0800 From: AL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Winter Losses References: <23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.20.226.8 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1047582134 66.20.226.8 (13 Mar 2003 13:02:14 -0600) Lines: 17 X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. X-Comments3: IMPORTANT: Under NO circumstances will postings containing illegal or copyrighted material through this service be tolerated!! X-Report: Please report illegal or inappropriate use to X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, INCLUDING the body (DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 100,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!news-out.spamkiller.net!propagator2-maxim!propagator3-maxim!news-in.superfeed.net!corp.newsgroups.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34119 Beecrofter wrote: > > Reports in and around Southeast CT and RI indicate hard winter losses. Southern IL - lost 1 of 4, but that's ok. Over the past 3 years they had become mean, very mean. I looked down into the empty box a few weeks ago and thought "serves you little buggers right"... We had a good stand of goldenrod last fall that I'm sure contributed to the survival of the other three. AL -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Article 34120 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Winter Losses Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 19:51:49 -0000 Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com> <3E70F069.D87BE107@hcis.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.147.47 X-Trace: newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk 1047585111 14773 217.135.147.47 (13 Mar 2003 19:51:51 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Mar 2003 19:51:51 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34120 "AL" wrote in message news:3E70F069.D87BE107@hcis.net... > Beecrofter wrote: > > > > Reports in and around Southeast CT and RI indicate hard winter losses. > > Southern IL - lost 1 of 4, but that's ok. Over the past 3 years they had > become mean, very mean. I looked down into the empty box a few weeks ago > and thought "serves you little buggers right"... But you will not get much honey from them now! -- Peter Edwards beekeepers@stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk Article 34121 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <3E7126E3.1123F83E@hcis.net> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:48:35 -0800 From: AL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Winter Losses References: <23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com> <3E70F069.D87BE107@hcis.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.20.228.209 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1047596080 66.20.228.209 (13 Mar 2003 16:54:40 -0600) Lines: 24 X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. X-Comments3: IMPORTANT: Under NO circumstances will postings containing illegal or copyrighted material through this service be tolerated!! X-Report: Please report illegal or inappropriate use to X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, INCLUDING the body (DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 100,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!news-out.newsfeeds.com!l2!corp.newsgroups.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34121 Peter Edwards wrote: > > "AL" wrote in message news:3E70F069.D87BE107@hcis.net... > > Beecrofter wrote: > > > > > > Reports in and around Southeast CT and RI indicate hard winter losses. > > > > Southern IL - lost 1 of 4, but that's ok. Over the past 3 years they had > > become mean, very mean. I looked down into the empty box a few weeks ago > > and thought "serves you little buggers right"... > > But you will not get much honey from them now! Didn't say I got much from them in the first place. AL -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Article 34122 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Host: user-10003987.zetnet.co.uk Message-ID: <2003031400153975982@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 00:15:39 GMT Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping From: Phil Gurr X-Mailer: ZIMACS Version 2.16 10003987 Subject: Re: Winter Losses References: <23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com> <3E70F069.D87BE107@hcis.net> <3E7126E3.1123F83E@hcis.net> Lines: 14 X-Trace: 1047600782 master.news.zetnet.net 773 194.247.47.30 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!mephistopheles.news.clara.net!news.clara.net!peer.news.zetnet.net!master.news.zetnet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34122 The message <3E7126E3.1123F83E@hcis.net> from AL contains these words: > > "AL" wrote in message news:3E70F069.D87BE107@hcis.net... > > > Beecrofter wrote: > > > > > > > > Reports in and around Southeast CT and RI indicate hard winter losses. > > > > > > Southern IL - lost 1 of 4, but that's ok. No losses reported from SD or RE despite a colder winter than recent years Phil. Article 34123 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "BeeFarmer" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Winter Losses Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:57:33 -0500 Organization: Kids getting involved with Beekeeping Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com> <3e7083a5.259366406@news1.radix.net> Reply-To: "BeeFarmer" NNTP-Posting-Host: rrcs-central-24-123-61-178.biz.rr.com (24.123.61.178) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1047657455 70513056 24.123.61.178 (16 [66812]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stueberl.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!rrcs-central-24-123-61-178.biz.rr.COM!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34123 There have been lots of bees lost here in Ohio this year. The local bee inspector lost 12 out of 14 hives. He had plenty of stores left, however the bees didn't appear to move up to them. I have been lucky so far and have lost only 4 of 30. When I clean out a dead hive I normally scrape off any extra burr comb, clean the bottom board, inner cover, and knock out some of the dead bees in the comb. Most of the work will be taken care of by the new bees. NOTE... this is if I don't find any issue that may make the hive unlivable.. AFB, POISON... and so on.. I also rid the hive of excess drone cells and honey\pollen filled frames I note so I can use to feed my other hives for feeding if needed. If I don't use them for feeding I move them about for use in the new hive. -- OhioBeeFarmer Getting kids involved in Beekeeping http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/BeesRUs.html http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html - "beekeep" wrote in message news:3e7083a5.259366406@news1.radix.net... > On 12 Mar 2003 23:36:37 -0800, bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) wrote: > > >Reports in and around Southeast CT and RI indicate hard winter losses. > > They are bad here in Maryland as well. I think the drout keep them > from building up for the winter. > > beekeep > > Article 34124 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: New language added Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:15:54 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 11 Message-ID: <3e732785$0$244$edfadb0f@dread15.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.215.97.72 X-Trace: 1047734150 dread15.news.tele.dk 244 195.215.97.72 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34124 If you are interested in French and dutch language to Bidata then http://apimo.dk/programs/Languagepack.zip 600KB -- Best regards Jorn Johanesson visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software and other beekeeping stuff. Article 34125 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: adamf@nullcity.net (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Maple pollen available 03/15/03 USA/Mid-Atlantic Date: 15 Mar 2003 10:45:46 -0500 Organization: Self-Organized. Dig that. Lines: 8 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com X-Trace: reader2.panix.com 1047743146 21139 166.84.1.3 (15 Mar 2003 15:45:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!panix!panix3.panix.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34125 Sighted open Silver Maple today. Frederick County, MD USA (30 miles North of Wash D.C.) Adam -- Adam Finkelstein adamf panix com To reply to this post, use the address components in the signature. Article 34126 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 19:00:32 -0600 From: "Pavel314" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com> <3e7083a5.259366406@news1.radix.net> Subject: Re: Winter Losses Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 20:08:02 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.33.153.15 X-Trace: sv3-pryZxIUbCBFvG0UH6Lfs8BnN7E+DHzVF/7dgr5fprOt6ETQjoYi7+aEBsCqWtgdxhm7ElEiXV5iI12K!4l8kkMeQL9qhNbNU9vMQl+QHSo6oN9vE+Qe0ZwEFSPo/HHNJiG9YvsVqzZty X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!cyclone.swbell.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34126 beekeep wrote in message news:3e7083a5.259366406@news1.radix.net... > They are bad here in Maryland as well. I think the drout keep them > from building up for the winter. We're in Harford County, Maryland, about 20 miles up I-95 from Baltimore. We bought our first two hives last Spring, so this was our first Winter with bees. We have a large horse pond on our property so our bees had water all through the drought last year. My wife kept them fed and I shoveled the snow away through the recent storms. This morning, March 15, the first crocuses popped up; we were glad to see honey bees on the blooms. Both hives have bees going in and out, although both hives have piles of dead bees in front of them. Paul Article 34127 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Harmony Seldon" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: I need some information on wild Bee's Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:04:49 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 32 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34127 I live out here in the desert of West Texas where the only trees are the ones we plant in our yards. There is an abundance of scrubs and cacti which produce Blossoms that attract wild Bee's into this area. About three acres are heavily covered by cacti. Every year I see more and more wild Bee's in this area. Yesterday there were about three dozen drinking from the pond. Those Bee's seemed more aggressive that in past years. My Questions are: 1. How far will bee's travel from their hive to sources of food & water? 2. Where are Bee's likely to live? They are not in my trees or my neighbors trees and all the old abandoned houses were burned down several years ago when my neighbor set the pasture on fire while doing some welding. 3. Is there a difference in size of regular bee's and Africanized Bee's? The Bee's here seem small. 4. Will Africanized Bee's be aggressive away from their hive or only when someone or something comes near their hive? That's all the questions I can think of for now. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank You Article 34128 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.70.220.142 From: "Beeguy" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Winter Losses Lines: 8 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 04:16:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.64.223.206 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news1.calgary.shaw.ca 1047788168 24.64.223.206 (Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:16:08 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:16:08 MST Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!worldnet.att.net!207.115.63.142!prodigy.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news1.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34128 I have 19 hives and lost not even one, they all in best condition. How did I make it? Go to the following website and forget about Apistan, the Varroa is resistant. http://www.mellifera.de/engl2.htm http://www.members.shaw.ca/orioleln Article 34129 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: I need some information on wild Bee's Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:54:30 -0000 Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.183.171 X-Trace: newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk 1047804984 24601 217.135.183.171 (16 Mar 2003 08:56:24 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Mar 2003 08:56:24 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34129 Are they honeybees,or solitary bees, or do you not know? You say that they seem aggressive - have you been stung? -- Peter Edwards beekeepers@stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk "Harmony Seldon" wrote in message news:v77u537063t98a@corp.supernews.com... > I live out here in the desert of West Texas where the only > trees are the ones we plant in our yards. > > There is an abundance of scrubs and cacti which produce > Blossoms that attract wild Bee's into this area. About three > acres are heavily covered by cacti. > > Every year I see more and more wild Bee's in this area. > Yesterday there were about three dozen drinking from the > pond. Those Bee's seemed more aggressive that in past years. > > My Questions are: > 1. How far will bee's travel from their hive to sources of > food & water? > > 2. Where are Bee's likely to live? They are not in my trees or my > neighbors trees and all the old abandoned houses were burned > down several years ago when my neighbor set the pasture on > fire while doing some welding. > > 3. Is there a difference in size of regular bee's and Africanized > Bee's? The Bee's here seem small. > > 4. Will Africanized Bee's be aggressive away from their hive or > only when someone or something comes near their hive? > > That's all the questions I can think of for now. Any help will > be greatly appreciated. > > Thank You > > Article 34130 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Winter Losses Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:55:54 -0000 Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com> <3e7083a5.259366406@news1.radix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.183.171 X-Trace: newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk 1047804985 24601 217.135.183.171 (16 Mar 2003 08:56:25 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Mar 2003 08:56:25 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!colt.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34130 Dead bees outside are usually a good sign - shows that there are live ones inside with enough energy to clean out the hive. -- Peter Edwards beekeepers@stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk "Pavel314" wrote in message news:umSdndK9uNYtUe6jXTWcqg@comcast.com... > beekeep wrote in message > news:3e7083a5.259366406@news1.radix.net... > > They are bad here in Maryland as well. I think the drout keep them > > from building up for the winter. > > We're in Harford County, Maryland, about 20 miles up I-95 from Baltimore. We > bought our first two hives last Spring, so this was our first Winter with > bees. We have a large horse pond on our property so our bees had water all > through the drought last year. My wife kept them fed and I shoveled the snow > away through the recent storms. > > This morning, March 15, the first crocuses popped up; we were glad to see > honey bees on the blooms. Both hives have bees going in and out, although > both hives have piles of dead bees in front of them. > > Paul > > Article 34132 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Winter Losses Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:11:12 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 21 Message-ID: <3e74772c.178901977@news1.radix.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ip152.sns.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.radix.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34132 On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 04:16:08 GMT, "Beeguy" wrote: >I have 19 hives and lost not even one, they all in best condition. How did I >make it? Go to the following website and forget about Apistan, the Varroa is >resistant. > >http://www.mellifera.de/engl2.htm http://www.members.shaw.ca/orioleln > > > I treated my home apiary of 30 hives with only oxalix acid vaporized in the hive. I have two left alive. I have lots of heavy hives full of honey with no bees. My outyards were treated with checkmite and they faired much better. Losses there were from starvation not varroa. beekeep Article 34133 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: adamf@nullcity.net (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Virus warning in email on beekeeping group Date: 16 Mar 2003 08:58:52 -0500 Organization: Self-Organized. Dig that. Lines: 52 Message-ID: References: <20030310192919.17823.00000152@mb-fe.aol.com> <4169b71c.0303111630.7572ae35@posting.google.com> Reply-To: nobody@nullcity.net NNTP-Posting-Host: panix1.panix.com X-Trace: reader2.panix.com 1047823132 12308 166.84.1.1 (16 Mar 2003 13:58:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:58:52 +0000 (UTC) Summary: Think before you post, dude! Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!panix!panix1.panix.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34133 In article <4169b71c.0303111630.7572ae35@posting.google.com>, albert cannon wrote: >bobpursley@aol.com (Bob Pursley) wrote in message news:<20030310192919.17823.00000152@mb-fe.aol.com>... >> In the last two days, I have received email ( A very new website) that >> contained virus in the attachments. One mail was purported to be from adam >> finkelstein, the other from Barry. Here are the mail tracings on each: >> >> get yourself some form of virus detector to start with. Then dont open any attachments unless you are sure who they are from, and even then be careful. >I only read/open emails from people who i know. if one gets by then my >virus detecter kicks in. >albert cannon A little knowledge about viruses. Most viruses one sees on the internet via email are propagated by either a Microsoft application related macro (Word or Excel) or by a Microsoft related hack using VB (Microsoft's programming language.) I haven't sent anyone any email using a Microsoft operating system for over ten years. I also do not use the "radix.net" account. Therefore, one must assume that there is an email type virus that grabs headers from email and forwards it on. I have received emails from bee-l "list members" that were suspect, but since I use an open system to receive and process my mail (*NIX) I deleted these emails. (visual basic doesn't really run on open systems ;) ). I have also received email from legitimate sources that asked why I sent them email with "crap" in it. The email was from "adamf@radix.net" again, an account I don't use to send email. Remember the ancient Usenet adage: think before you post! Do some reading and use search engines out there. Certainly stating you received email from me with a virus attached is silly. I don't send email using a Visual Basic system, and as of today, there is no mention on any of the huge resources for viruses/exploits/crack/black-hat sites that warns against a text based virus. Do you understand? Viruses need to be programs and need to execute, to spread. I'd be very curious to know if the list owners of bee-l are aware of any problems with email in the last year or so. Rest assured too, if there's a virus out there that can be propagated by email, I'll know about before you will and will have taken the necessary measure to asure saftey to others on the net. That comes with being intimately involved with a large corporate data center and carrying a pager. Ahh isn't life grand? Adam -- Adam Finkelstein adamf panix com To reply to this post, use the address components in the signature. Article 34134 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:05:09 -0600 From: "me" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: I need some information on wild Bee's Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:04:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Lines: 63 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.198.128.138 X-Trace: sv3-wXVgihYFoLQxeiZzMT/16NCwoH/K3dW0J8VK33pSYezS96+f8apkEC03u3vH2xsZvL4qxBGlJ3BH0nX!+2jw56Eg3A+7HU5/frVG5fY3tUbuiF2/3gX6v0y9bZmN8TEqX+56UZ+6wqK0nCT5zBjNpJI= X-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.easynews.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.crcom.net!news.crcom.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34134 Hello Harmony. What part of West Texas do you live in. I'm in the Big Spring area. You shouldn't have any trouble with the bees away from their hive while drinking water or collecting water, even Africanized Honey Bees. Africanized Honey Bees are virtually identical to normal honey bees. They just have an overly protective nature when it comes to protecting their hive. They also protect at a much greater distance than regular bees, 20 or 30 yards. Once alerted to protect their home, they just don't know when to quit and will follow you and try to sting for a quarter mile or so. Really narrow minded once they get into that protective mode of thinking. But other than that odd behavior, they're pretty much just like any other honey bee. AHBs do tend to build their hives in odd places. Inside pipes, old 5 gl. buckets, inside an old air conditioner, etc.. They also tend to choose smaller places than regular bees. But, don't get overly concerned about the bees being Africanized. They are probably just normal honey bees. To find out where they live, you will have to do some observation. Bees don't do a lot of flying around. They tend to go straight to the water source and straight back. Same way with nectar sources. So, just see which direction they come and go from and head in that direction. It can be a mile or two away though. Good luck and have fun with your new friends. Oh, one word of caution. If you do find their hive, stay WELL back from it. Call a beekeeper. If the bees do come after you, run and get inside the car. Those that get into the car with you probably won't sting. They will be worried about getting out. West Texas Mark "Harmony Seldon" wrote in message news:v77u537063t98a@corp.supernews.com... I live out here in the desert of West Texas where the only trees are the ones we plant in our yards. There is an abundance of scrubs and cacti which produce Blossoms that attract wild Bee's into this area. About three acres are heavily covered by cacti. Every year I see more and more wild Bee's in this area. Yesterday there were about three dozen drinking from the pond. Those Bee's seemed more aggressive that in past years. My Questions are: 1. How far will bee's travel from their hive to sources of food & water? 2. Where are Bee's likely to live? They are not in my trees or my neighbors trees and all the old abandoned houses were burned down several years ago when my neighbor set the pasture on fire while doing some welding. 3. Is there a difference in size of regular bee's and Africanized Bee's? The Bee's here seem small. 4. Will Africanized Bee's be aggressive away from their hive or only when someone or something comes near their hive? That's all the questions I can think of for now. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank You Article 34135 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: adamf@nullcity.net (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Virus warning in email on beekeeping group Date: 16 Mar 2003 09:53:52 -0500 Organization: Self-Organized. Dig that. Lines: 84 Message-ID: References: <20030310192919.17823.00000152@mb-fe.aol.com> Reply-To: nobody@nullcity.net NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com X-Trace: reader2.panix.com 1047826432 13163 166.84.1.3 (16 Mar 2003 14:53:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Summary: More on the virus Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!panix!panix3.panix.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34135 In article <20030310192919.17823.00000152@mb-fe.aol.com>, Bob Pursley wrote: >In the last two days, I have received email ( A very new website) that >contained virus in the attachements. One mail was purported to be from adam >finkelstein, the other from Barry. Here are the mail tracings on each: Mail headers. Here's where one can look at what's going on a little: Check out all those header lines. Looks like something is forging them. Maybe do a host or nslookup on 172.31.36.97 and 167.206.5.22 to see who those machine belong to. There's more to look at, but my point is: do you see any reference to email originating from the domain "radix.net"? No. Adam headers below --------------------------------------------- > >Return-Path: >Received: from rly-za01.mx.aol.com (rly-za01.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.97]) by >air-za03.mail.aol.com (v92.17) with ESMTP id MAILINZA32-22753e6d126a3a4; Mon, >10 Mar 2003 17:32:11 -0500 >Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.22]) >by rly-za01.mx.aol.com (v92.16) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINZA12-2dc3e6d125318b; >Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:31:47 -0500 >Received: from asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net > (asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.145]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net > (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.05 (built Nov 6 2002)) > with ESMTP id <0HBK00FHJ16V2I@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for bobpursley@aol.com; > Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:30:31 -0500 (EST) >Received: from asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h2AMU1ct003354 >for > ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:30:23 -0500 (EST) >Received: from [67.80.125.130] by asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (bmifilter); Mon, > 10 Mar 2003 17:25:29 -0500 (EST) >Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:30:23 -0500 (EST) >From: adamf >Subject: A very new website >To: bobpursley@aol.com >Message-id: <200303102230.h2AMU1ct003354@asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> >MIME-version: 1.0 >Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_QE1SsfuPQ/Cf4TTheAfd/Q)" >X-BLTSYMAVREINSERT: 0P8cETJt5j4fGYJN+snWS0hqeowA > >and the other >Return-Path: >Received: from rly-za01.mx.aol.com (rly-za01.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.97]) by >air-za03.mail.aol.com (v92.17) with ESMTP id MAILINZA32-22753e6d126a3a4; Mon, >10 Mar 2003 17:32:11 -0500 >Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.22]) >by rly-za01.mx.aol.com (v92.16) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINZA12-2dc3e6d125318b; >Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:31:47 -0500 >Received: from asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net > (asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.145]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net > (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.05 (built Nov 6 2002)) > with ESMTP id <0HBK00FHJ16V2I@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for bobpursley@aol.com; > Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:30:31 -0500 (EST) >Received: from asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h2AMU1ct003354 >for > ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:30:23 -0500 (EST) >Received: from [67.80.125.130] by asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (bmifilter); Mon, > 10 Mar 2003 17:25:29 -0500 (EST) >Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:30:23 -0500 (EST) >From: adamf >Subject: A very new website >To: bobpursley@aol.com >Message-id: <200303102230.h2AMU1ct003354@asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> >MIME-version: 1.0 >Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_QE1SsfuPQ/Cf4TTheAfd/Q)" >X-BLTSYMAVREINSERT: 0P8cETJt5j4fGYJN+snWS0hqeowA -- Adam Finkelstein adamf panix com To reply to this post, use the address components in the signature. Article 34136 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <20030310192919.17823.00000152@mb-fe.aol.com> <4169b71c.0303111630.7572ae35@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Virus warning in email on beekeeping group Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:09:18 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 18 Message-ID: <3e749395$0$52143$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.249.242.22 X-Trace: 1047827350 dread16.news.tele.dk 52143 195.249.242.22 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34136 I have newer seen a Virus from this newsgroup! And I have been signed up for a lot of years! Also the Bee-L mailing list is safe. I have newer seen a Virus originating from Bee-l By the way I have a firewall and norton antivirus set up. -- Best regards Jorn Johanesson visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software and other beekeeping stuff. Article 34137 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "allen" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Virus warning in email on beekeeping group Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:50:32 -0700 Organization: honeybeeworld point com Lines: 58 Message-ID: References: <20030310192919.17823.00000152@mb-fe.aol.com> <4169b71c.0303111630.7572ae35@posting.google.com> Reply-To: "allen" NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin-184-29.calgary.primus.ca (209.90.184.29) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1047833437 71928587 209.90.184.29 (16 [58605]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!dialin-184-29.calgary.primus.CA!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34137 > Therefore, one must assume that there is an email type virus that > grabs headers from email and forwards it on. I have received emails > from bee-l "list members" that were suspect, ... > I'd be very curious to know if the list owners of bee-l are aware > of any problems with email in the last year or so. You are right about some of these worms forging headers, particularly 'from' and 'to' addresses. I've even gotten some of these emails -- with a payload -- that says it is from me. I know for sure that it is not. I am not the owner of BEE-L, and retired from being a BEE-L moderator, but I doubt Aaron reads here, so I'll respond: Some time back -- at the height of email worm and SPAM activity -- we suspected that robots might mine the BEE-L member list for names to use for SPAMming and closed public access to that list of subscribers, The list of subscribers had previously been open to anyone who cared to look, in the original spirit of the Internet. BEE-L has always been pretty well virus proof, due to the filters on the UA machine and the personal screening of every message by a human moderator, but the readers of BEE-L are not secure. Some are (were) totally naive, and totallly unprotected, and from time to time, one gets a worm from somewhere on the 'net. When *anyone* gets one of these worms, viruses, trojans, etc., it may go through his or her computer and collect all the email addresses there in storage anywhere, even from cached web pages. The collected addresses are then used select victims, and to forge 'from' headers when the worm (or whatever) sends itself out as email. Thus, if your email address appears anywhere, anyhow on an infected computer, you may receive infected email, and/or appear on the from or 'reply to' line of such infected mail sent from that computer. As for the immunity of *nix, as *nixes grow in popularity, worms, viruses, etc. have been developed that target such systems. Linux, according to Fred Langa, is turning out to be no more secure than Windows. *nix's relative immunity has been largely due to hackers directing them selves towards the most popular O/S for naive users: Windows. This same factor has protected Apple systems to some extent as well, but no one should rely on that for security. Any system is vulnerable. There are pointers to some free security software and other ideas at http://www.honeybeeworld.com/misc/security.htm , but no one can guarantee absolute safety. Some people work full time at computer security and still get hit. For most of us, though, simply screening our email carefully and running up-to-date virus checkers and spyware detectors will reduce risk of problems reaching us from the 'net to to the point where our biggest security risk becomes the fear that someone will break into our premises and physically carry off our machine. allen --- This return address is a black hole. Visit http://www.honeybeeworld.com/contactme/ for a valid email Article 34138 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "allen" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Winter Losses Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:11:29 -0700 Organization: honeybeeworld point com Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <3e74772c.178901977@news1.radix.net> Reply-To: "allen" NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin-184-29.calgary.primus.ca (209.90.184.29) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1047834704 72512792 209.90.184.29 (16 [58605]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!dialin-184-29.calgary.primus.CA!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34138 > I treated my home apiary of 30 hives with only oxalix acid vaporized > in the hive. I have two left alive. I have lots of heavy hives full > of honey with no bees. Any details of how you did this? I'm quite interested. I've never seem it used, but am very interested in the deatils. I posted some info about one man's attempts at http://www.honeybeeworld.com/diary/2002/diary111002.htm I have no idea how it worked out for him. P-O has a nice presentation at http://www.algonet.se/~beeman/research/oxalic/oxalic-1-nf.htm allen --- This return address is a black hole. Visit http://www.honeybeeworld.com/contactme/ for a valid email Article 34139 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Harmony Seldon" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: I need some information on wild Bee's Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:59:40 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 44 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-04!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34139 They look like the Honey Bee's that I've seen on the Discovery Channel. They don't seem like solitary Bee's. I have not been stung, But yesterday I was beginning to get worried. Peter Edwards wrote: > Are they honeybees,or solitary bees, or do you not know? > > You say that they seem aggressive - have you been stung? > > "Harmony Seldon" wrote in message > news:v77u537063t98a@corp.supernews.com... >> I live out here in the desert of West Texas where the only >> trees are the ones we plant in our yards. >> >> There is an abundance of scrubs and cacti which produce >> Blossoms that attract wild Bee's into this area. About three >> acres are heavily covered by cacti. >> >> Every year I see more and more wild Bee's in this area. >> Yesterday there were about three dozen drinking from the >> pond. Those Bee's seemed more aggressive that in past years. >> >> My Questions are: >> 1. How far will bee's travel from their hive to sources of >> food & water? >> >> 2. Where are Bee's likely to live? They are not in my trees or my >> neighbors trees and all the old abandoned houses were burned >> down several years ago when my neighbor set the pasture on >> fire while doing some welding. >> >> 3. Is there a difference in size of regular bee's and Africanized >> Bee's? The Bee's here seem small. >> >> 4. Will Africanized Bee's be aggressive away from their hive or >> only when someone or something comes near their hive? >> >> That's all the questions I can think of for now. Any help will >> be greatly appreciated. >> >> Thank You Article 34140 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Harmony Seldon" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: I need some information on wild Bee's Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:15:07 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 16 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!news.umass.edu!micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!out.nntp.be!propagator-sanjose!feed.uncensored-news.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34140 me wrote: > Hello Harmony. What part of West Texas do you live in. I'm in the > Big Spring area. > Hello Mark. Thank you for your reply. I live North West of Big Spring about 110 miles. >AHBs do tend to build their hives in odd places. Inside pipes, old 5 gl. > buckets, inside an old air conditioner, etc.. I've got some old irrigation pipe that I need to check. I'll try to be careful. I just hope they don't attack my cats. Thank you again for your help. I'll post again and let you know how it's going. Article 34141 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "vinel10" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: sent message's Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:38:16 -0500 Lines: 4 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.90.92.88 Message-ID: <3e74e15e$1_5@corp.newsgroups.com> X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1047847262 63.90.92.88 (16 Mar 2003 14:41:02 -0600) X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. X-Comments3: IMPORTANT: Under NO circumstances will postings containing illegal or copyrighted material through this service be tolerated!! 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Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.utk.edu!news-out.newsfeeds.com!l2!corp.newsgroups.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34141 I have sent messages to this site before but for some reason they are not displayed does any one know why -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Article 34142 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:30:24 -0600 From: "me" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <3e74e15e$1_5@corp.newsgroups.com> Subject: Re: sent message's Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:29:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.198.128.116 X-Trace: sv3-Ujb86OxRR/4Fltv3F2qRybqqRt96Qxp+x6hKmgja4NFKf3+ZodP/r+Ifhn+7+lZHeJpiZEK9Prm2ZzV!52g5DvA6wfg7kt2/r103+9yNt+DG/kzaoWyI7tJUUfbBTuyxSqQQHcFk60J36JGoAXuNPPw= X-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.crcom.net!news.crcom.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34142 I have happen to me. Usually, it's my fault. I "reply" to a message in stead of choosing "reply to group". Just hitting the reply button sends the reply to the sender. West Texas Mark "vinel10" wrote in message news:3e74e15e$1_5@corp.newsgroups.com... I have sent messages to this site before but for some reason they are not displayed does any one know why -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Article 34143 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <3E751637.4905F49D@sympatico.ca> From: Mike Romain X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: sent message's References: <3e74e15e$1_5@corp.newsgroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 15 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:26:31 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.95.86.121 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1047860759 65.95.86.121 (Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:25:59 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:25:59 EST Organization: Bell Sympatico Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!torn!webster!nf1.bellglobal.com!nf2.bellglobal.com!news20.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34143 I see 3 from you including this one. How many have you sent? Mike vinel10 wrote: > > I have sent messages to this site before but for some reason they are not > displayed does any one know why > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Article 34144 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "vinel10" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: sorry but I'm new to this cyber thing Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:31:48 -0500 Lines: 22 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.90.92.91 Message-ID: <3e75262b$1_1@corp.newsgroups.com> X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1047864875 63.90.92.91 (16 Mar 2003 19:34:35 -0600) X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. 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Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!xmission!local-out2.newsfeeds.com!corp.newsgroups.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34144 sorry to be a bother I'm new to the computer I just wanted to tell how I followed wild bee's from the watering hole to their tree since I wear glass'es I cant see very well so I could not see in what direction the bees were going I got some powered sugar and dusted the bees as they were watering bingo it turned them white within ten minutes I had found the tree odd thing is they were going in at the base of the tree From: "vinel10" Subject: sent message's Date: Sunday, March 16, 2003 3:38 PM I have sent messages to this site before but for some reason they are not displayed does any one know why -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Article 34145 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.70.220.142 From: "Beeguy" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <3e74772c.178901977@news1.radix.net> Subject: Re: Winter Losses Lines: 28 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 06:11:45 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.64.223.206 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news2.calgary.shaw.ca 1047881505 24.64.223.206 (Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:11:45 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:11:45 MST Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!tethys.csu.net!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!cyclone.bc.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news2.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34145 "beekeep" wrote in message news:3e74772c.178901977@news1.radix.net... > On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 04:16:08 GMT, "Beeguy" > wrote: > > >I have 19 hives and lost not even one, they all in best condition. How did I > >make it? Go to the following website and forget about Apistan, the Varroa is > >resistant. > > > >http://www.mellifera.de/engl2.htm http://www.members.shaw.ca/orioleln > > > > > > > I treated my home apiary of 30 hives with only oxalix acid vaporized > in the hive. I have two left alive. I have lots of heavy hives full > of honey with no bees. > > My outyards were treated with checkmite and they faired much better. > Losses there were from starvation not varroa. > > beekeep > > Article 34146 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.70.220.142 From: "Beeguy" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <3e74772c.178901977@news1.radix.net> Subject: Re: Winter Losses Lines: 48 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 06:13:40 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.64.223.206 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news1.calgary.shaw.ca 1047881620 24.64.223.206 (Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:13:40 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:13:40 MST Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!lax2-feed1.news.algx.net!allegiance!news-out.spamkiller.net!propagator2-maxim!propagator3-maxim!news-in.superfeed.net!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news1.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34146 "beekeep" wrote in message news:3e74772c.178901977@news1.radix.net... > On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 04:16:08 GMT, "Beeguy" > wrote: > > >I have 19 hives and lost not even one, they all in best condition. How did I > >make it? Go to the following website and forget about Apistan, the Varroa is > >resistant. > > > >http://www.mellifera.de/engl2.htm http://www.members.shaw.ca/orioleln > > > > > > > I treated my home apiary of 30 hives with only oxalix acid vaporized > in the hive. I have two left alive. I have lots of heavy hives full > of honey with no bees. > > My outyards were treated with checkmite and they faired much better. > Losses there were from starvation not varroa. > > beekeep > > I inspected the sticky paper after 4 days and counted the mites. I began treating my hives with oxalic acid vapour early last Fall (end of Sept) as I was worried about the high infection rate. The treatments were given 7 days apart over a 6 week period and I was encouraged when fewer and fewer mites appeared on the paper. It's not possible to reach the mites in closed cells during the breeding season , that's why I vaporised so often .Otherwise I'm sure I would have lost them all. It's extremely important to monitor the sticky paper and do your best to control the mites during the year. During the brood-free time I believe 2 treatments should be enough to get them under control. Success of course, depends on knowing when this will be. In some areas , the bees breed throughout the year and you have to treat for at least one or better, 2 brood cycles. Oxalic acid treatment does not hard the bees or queen, therefore you can treat as often as necessary. beekeeper Article 34147 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: cas@Eng.Sun.COM (Cathy Sminkey) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: bees on compost pile Date: 17 Mar 2003 13:20:41 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. Lines: 11 Distribution: world Message-ID: Reply-To: cas@Eng.Sun.COM NNTP-Posting-Host: glacier.east.sun.com Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.litech.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed.news.qwest.net!namche.sun.com!news1brm.central.sun.com!new-usenet.uk.sun.com!eastnews1.East.Sun.COM!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34147 How common is it for bees to show interest in a compost pile? Yesterday was in the 50s in eastern Massachusetts and I found about 4-5 dozen bees all over the compost pile. Said pile has leaves, aged chicken manure, trimmings from fruit and vegetables. The bees spent at least three hours there. I don't have a hive yet, just bought the parts this weekend and ordered my package bees. Article 34148 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: tarheit@wcoil.com (Tim Arheit) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: bees on compost pile Date: 17 Mar 2003 14:57:41 GMT Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.17.151.98 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.alt.net!wcoil.com!usenet Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34148 On 17 Mar 2003 13:20:41 GMT, cas@Eng.Sun.COM (Cathy Sminkey) wrote: >How common is it for bees to show interest in a compost pile? > >Yesterday was in the 50s in eastern Massachusetts and I found >about 4-5 dozen bees all over the compost pile. Said pile has >leaves, aged chicken manure, trimmings from fruit and vegetables. >The bees spent at least three hours there. > >I don't have a hive yet, just bought the parts this weekend >and ordered my package bees. Very common. If given a choice between a clean (tapwater) water source and compost runoff they will most likely pick the compost. Some speculate it's the trace minerals they are after as well as the water. -Tim Article 34149 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Timothy Eisele Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: bees on compost pile Date: 17 Mar 2003 10:23:48 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3e75e884@mtunews.mtu.edu> References: Distribution: world X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX IT-DCS binary version 970321; sun4u SunOS 5.8] X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.219.26.236 X-Original-Trace: 17 Mar 2003 10:23:48 -0500, 141.219.26.236 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 17 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.netins.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!mtunews.mtu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34149 Cathy Sminkey wrote: > How common is it for bees to show interest in a compost pile? > Yesterday was in the 50s in eastern Massachusetts and I found > about 4-5 dozen bees all over the compost pile. Said pile has > leaves, aged chicken manure, trimmings from fruit and vegetables. > The bees spent at least three hours there. > I don't have a hive yet, just bought the parts this weekend > and ordered my package bees. Well, my bees were fascinated by my compost pile last year, so I'd say it's probably pretty common. -- Tim Eisele tceisele@mtu.edu Article 34150 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: arfagiuse@libero.it (giuseppino) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: dewaxing propolis. Date: 17 Mar 2003 07:43:39 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 5 Message-ID: <402eccb5.0303170743.1d8d83e5@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.94.77.161 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047915819 21279 127.0.0.1 (17 Mar 2003 15:43:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Mar 2003 15:43:39 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34150 I'd like to know what is the procedure to dewax propolis. A dewaxed propolis allows to prepare a propolis solution in aethilic alcool that can be mixed in water without producing wax deposits in the container. Many thanks. Article 34151 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: cas@Eng.Sun.COM (Cathy Sminkey -Volume Systems Products) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: bees on compost pile Date: 17 Mar 2003 17:32:21 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <3e75e884@mtunews.mtu.edu> Reply-To: cas@Eng.Sun.COM NNTP-Posting-Host: glacier.east.sun.com Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed.news.qwest.net!namche.sun.com!news1nwk.sfbay.sun.com!new-usenet.uk.sun.com!eastnews1.East.Sun.COM!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34151 Thanks for the replies - I found it quite a coincidence that I had put the new hive parts in the basement and the very next day there they were. I don't know where the nearest hive is, perhaps closer than I think. -Cathy (new beekeeper-to-be) In article 3e75e884@mtunews.mtu.edu, Timothy Eisele writes: >Cathy Sminkey wrote: >> How common is it for bees to show interest in a compost pile? > >> Yesterday was in the 50s in eastern Massachusetts and I found >> about 4-5 dozen bees all over the compost pile. Said pile has >> leaves, aged chicken manure, trimmings from fruit and vegetables. >> The bees spent at least three hours there. > >> I don't have a hive yet, just bought the parts this weekend >> and ordered my package bees. > >Well, my bees were fascinated by my compost pile last year, so >I'd say it's probably pretty common. > >-- >Tim Eisele >tceisele@mtu.edu Article 34152 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "The Cloete Family" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: HONEY WANTED Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:17:57 +0200 Organization: The South African Internet Exchange Lines: 9 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ctb54-01-p78.wc.saix.net X-Trace: ctb-nnrp2.saix.net 1048015096 7555 155.239.146.78 (18 Mar 2003 19:18:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@saix.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Mar 2003 19:18:16 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!kibo.news.demon.net!demon!btnet-peer0!btnet!ctb-nntp1.saix.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34152 Hi all. I am looking for honey suppliers in Europe, South America, Africa and Asia who can sell me some honey in bulk. Please mail me at kluta@telkomsa.net Brendon Cloete. Cape Town, South Africa. Article 34153 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Manual to software Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 00:18:47 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 19 Message-ID: <3e77a943$0$42566$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.249.242.37 X-Trace: 1048029507 dread11.news.tele.dk 42566 195.249.242.37 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34153 New english manual with up to date screen shots! Http://apimo.dk/programs/engmanus.zip 800kb programsfixes with new frensh and dutch languages http://apimo.dk/test/18_03_2003.zip 2.2 mb unzip this to your bidata home directory! -- Best regards Jorn Johanesson visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software and other beekeeping stuff. Article 34154 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Keith B. Forsyth" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: ONTARIO BEEKEEPERS' ASSOCIATION SPRING COMMERCIAL MEETING APRIL 3, 2003 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:49:12 -0500 Organization: Keith B. Forsyth Lines: 83 Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.212.94.208 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1123 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!torn!newserver!news.hwcn.org!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34154 ONTARIO BEEKEEPERS' ASSOCIATION SPRING COMMERCIAL MEETING THURSDAY, APRIL 3, 2003 SEELEY'S BAY/KINGSTON REGISTRATION FEE: $30.00 + GST ($32.10) AGENDA Davies Apiaries, Seeley's Bay 8:30 am Tour Day's Inn, Kingston - Salon A Program Chair: Paul Kelly 10:00 am Registration and Coffee 10:30 am Welcome and OBA Update, Bill Minnick, President 10:45 am Canadian Honey Council Activities, Heather Clay, National Coordinator 11:15 am The Australian 'BQual' Program, Trevor Weatherhead, President, Australian Queen Bee Breeder's Association 12:00 pm Lunch - on your own in the Denny's Restaurant on site or local restaurants 1:15 pm Canadian on Farm Food Safety, Wink Howland, President, Canadian Honey Council 1:45 pm Provincial Apiarist's Report, Doug McRory, Ontario Ministry of Agriculture & Food 2:00 pm Formic for the Future, David VanderDussen, NOD Apiary Products Ltd. 3:00 pm Coffee Break 3:30 pm Expect the Unexpected - The 2002 Tech Transfer Season, Alison Skinner, Project Leader, Tech Transfer Program ~~~~~ 6:30 pm Canadian Honey Council's Interactive Web Site for Risk Assessment - demonstration and discussion Rudy Gelderblom EVERYONE WELCOME Note: It would be helpful if you could register in advance. Cheque would have to be received by April 1 or phone or fax the OBA office with your Mastercard or Visa credit card number, expiry and cardholder name. Nametag and receipt will be ready for you at the registration desk. Pat Westlake, Business Administrator Ontario Beekeepers' Association Bayfield, ON N0M 1G0 519-565-2622 phone 519-565-5452 fax -- Comede, fili mi, mel, quia bonum est, et favum dulcissimum qutturi tuo Solomon in Prov. 24.13 "My son, eat thou honey, because it is good; and the honeycomb, which is sweet to thy taste." Article 34155 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Keith B. Forsyth" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: ANNUAL ONTARIO BEE BREEDERS' MEETING APRIL 4, 2003 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:51:57 -0500 Organization: Keith B. Forsyth Lines: 75 Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.212.94.208 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1123 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!torn!newserver!news.hwcn.org!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34155 ANNUAL ONTARIO BEE BREEDERS' MEETING FRIDAY, APRIL 4, 2003 - DAY'S INN, KINGSTON Sponsored by: Ontario Beekeepers' Association - Ontario Bee Breeders' Association REGISTRATION FEE: $40.00 + GST ($42.80) AGENDA Tercentenary Room Program Chair: Francois Petit 8:30 am Registration 9:00 am Australian Queen Production Business Trevor Weatherhead, President, Australian Queen Bee Breeder 's Association 9:45 am Russian Bee Project Update Francois Petit, Russian Queen Breeder 10:15 am Coffee Break 11:00 am Update on the Tech Transfer Program - data from 2002, plans for 2003 Alison Skinner, Janet Tam, Shannon Melin 12:00 pm Luncheon Nuc Production and Overwintering Wink Howland, Canadian Honey Council President, Saskatchewan Queen Producer 1:30 pm Bee Breeding: Getting the Most from Genetics Geoff Wilson, University of Guelph 2:00 pm Buckfast Bees in Ontario Barry Davies, Paul Montoux, Geoff Wilson 2:30 pm Special Projects in Australia - Queen Importation Station, Closed Population Breeding, Small Hive Beetle, Trevor Weatherhead 3:15 pm Coffee Break 3:30 pm Business Session ¨ nuc quality standards ¨ pricing - nucs, queens ¨ Summer Meeting Queen Auction ¨ EAS participation EVERYONE WELCOME Note: There will be a group luncheon (not included - individual bills) in Denny's side room (right of Denny's Restaurant's main entrance). Wink Howland will give a presentation following the luncheon. Pat Westlake, Business Administrator info@ontariobee.com Ontario Beekeepers' Association Bayfield, ON N0M 1G0 519-565-2622 phone 519-565-5452 fax -- Comede, fili mi, mel, quia bonum est, et favum dulcissimum qutturi tuo Solomon in Prov. 24.13 "My son, eat thou honey, because it is good; and the honeycomb, which is sweet to thy taste." Article 34156 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: miketechie2000@yahoo.com (mike) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bio-ITWorld Conference and Expo Date: 19 Mar 2003 10:15:18 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 13 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.200.152.228 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1048097718 16609 127.0.0.1 (19 Mar 2003 18:15:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Mar 2003 18:15:18 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34156 Bio-ITWorld Conference and Expo March 25, 2003 - March 27, 2003 Boston, MA Bio-ITWorld Conference and Expo is the premiere event for life science professionals to evaluate and understand advanced IT solutions and bioinformatics. 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Experts moderating round the clock @ www.techieindex.com Article 34157 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Steve Newport Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Worthing Beekeepers Website - UK Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 22:58:56 +0000 Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.52.79 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk 1048113760 12173 217.135.52.79 (19 Mar 2003 22:42:40 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Mar 2003 22:42:40 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34157 I have just published a website for the Worthing Beekeepers Association in West Sussex UK. www.worthingbeekeepers.fsnet.co.uk Please take a look and let me have some feedback. Thanks Steve Newport Article 34158 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Freddie Cooke" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <20030306150024.27402.00000006@mb-fd.aol.com> Subject: Re: Help - hundreds of bees round house Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 00:02:33 -0000 Lines: 49 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.7.61.133 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.7.61.133 Message-ID: <3e793aaa$1@news.greennet.net> X-Trace: 19 Mar 2003 19:51:06 -0800, 81.7.61.133 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.mv.net!mozart.jlc.net!news.greennet.net!81.7.61.133 Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34158 Hi Winnie, If you live in an urban or suburban area I think you have every justification in seeking to reduce the nuisance caused to you by the beekeeper. It wouldn't hurt to seek advice from the appropriate local government department. In the UK beekeepers are advised to move hives out of heavily populated areas into more isolated apiary sites. I don't see why you should be so inconvenienced by your neighbours beekeeping activities and in your position I certainly would want him to do something about it. Best wishes, Freddie Cooke. Winnie wrote in message news:b48ck5$65e$1@lust.ihug.co.nz... > > "Lazurus106" wrote in message > news:20030306150024.27402.00000006@mb-fd.aol.com... > > Hi All, > > You have told the landlord /beekeeper yes?He's your best resouce if its > any of > > the above. He will be interested and want to take a look, > > He seems pretty unconcerned; I told him the first time it happened and he > said they were probably just hungry. > > > Also it might be a > > way to get a chance to learn a bit of beekeeping yourself. > > Not my forte I'm afraid, I'm sticking with two and four legged > stock. > > > Don't worry about the dog they usually have a pretty quick learning > curve. I > > have a pair one a black shaggy beast (read bear like) that the bee's > really > > dislike and a golden retriver they ignore as long as he isn't bumping up > > against the hives. > > Cheers, > > Dave in Madison,WI USA > > Cool. It's just given ours one more thing to be paranoid about..... > > Thanks! > Winnie > > Article 34159 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: ellis@no.spam () Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: sent message's Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 06:49:24 -0000 Organization: S.P.C.A.A. Message-ID: <1048142964.664772@spinics.net> References: <3e74e15e$1_5@corp.newsgroups.com> X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: ellis@no.spam () Cache-Post-Path: spinics.net!unknown@localhost.localdomain X-Cache: nntpcache 3.0.1 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 9 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news-feed.riddles.org.uk!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!news.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34159 In article <3e74e15e$1_5@corp.newsgroups.com>, vinel10 wrote: >I have sent messages to this site This isn't a site. -- http://www.spinics.net/beereading.html Article 34160 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "vinel10" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <3e74e15e$1_5@corp.newsgroups.com> <1048142964.664772@spinics.net> Subject: Re: sent message's Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:40:41 -0500 Lines: 15 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.90.92.77 Message-ID: <3e79e1a5_1@corp.newsgroups.com> X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1048175013 63.90.92.77 (20 Mar 2003 09:43:33 -0600) X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. 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Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.infoave.net!news-out.newsfeeds.com!l2!corp.newsgroups.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34160 I 'm sorry for upsetting some people I will not post any more I just thought I would like to learn more about the honey bees but now I dont know if I do or not I will read but no more posting wrote in message news:1048142964.664772@spinics.net... > In article <3e74e15e$1_5@corp.newsgroups.com>, > vinel10 wrote: > > >I have sent messages to this site > > This isn't a site. > > -- > http://www.spinics.net/beereading.html -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Article 34161 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Reply-To: "Tim Whittingham" From: "Tim Whittingham" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Apiguard for varroa? Lines: 6 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 16:08:49 -0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.255.4.28 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net 1048176290 62.255.4.28 (Thu, 20 Mar 2003 16:04:50 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 16:04:50 GMT Organization: ntlworld News Service Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.vmunix.org!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34161 Can I rely on annual/biannual applications of Apiguard (Thymol gel) as a prophylactic varroa treatment in the uk? Tim W Article 34162 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Ajo Wissink Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: sent message's Message-ID: References: <3e74e15e$1_5@corp.newsgroups.com> <1048142964.664772@spinics.net> <3e79e1a5_1@corp.newsgroups.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 29 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 17:20:14 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 142.166.245.228 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aliant.net X-Trace: ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca 1048180814 142.166.245.228 (Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:20:14 AST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:20:14 AST Organization: Aliant Internet Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!torn!ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34162 On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:40:41 -0500, "vinel10" wrote: >I 'm sorry for upsetting some people I will not post any more >I just thought I would like to learn more about the honey bees but now I >dont know if I do or not I will read but no more posting > wrote in message news:1048142964.664772@spinics.net... >> In article <3e74e15e$1_5@corp.newsgroups.com>, >> vinel10 wrote: >> >I have sent messages to this site >> This isn't a site. Don't worry. Your message arrived here so you must have been doing it right. About that "site": This is a newsgroup; the messages or posts are not on one particular server, as would be the case with a website, but they are on all the thousands of newsservers all over the world that have opted to carry this group. 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I put it in on old super with a lid March 15th noticed bees bringing in more pollen than where visiting pollen feeder. A short ride around the "neighborhood" and lo and behold about an acre and a half of pussy willows all bloomed out. On another note, I have lost a number of hives with lots of stores and the bees clustered and dead. Three hives where alive just last weekend and looked fine. Weather here in South Jersey has been becoming milder. I just don't understand this. I have been keeping bees for 6 years and have yet to experience this. I have between 50 and 75 colonies. Any suggestions? Article 34164 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Swarmcatcher Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Beekeeping in the News on Hivetool.com Message-ID: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 9 X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenetserver.com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:24:22 EST Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 19:32:14 -0600 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!c03.atl99!news.webusenet.com!pc01.webusenet.com!fe05.atl2.webusenet.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34164 All, We're trying out a "Beekeeping in the News" section on Hivetool.com with recent articles from online news sources. Suggestions always welcome. http://www.hivetool.com Thanks. Article 34165 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: sitemanager@agrisupportonline.com (Shlomit) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Agri-talk e-group! Date: 20 Mar 2003 19:55:42 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 10 Message-ID: <6da0b6fe.0303201955.3c0eb490@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.235.56.126 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1048218942 19753 127.0.0.1 (21 Mar 2003 03:55:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Mar 2003 03:55:42 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34165 Welcome to Agri-talk e-group! This e-group is for ALL people with an interest in Agriculture. 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Join Now - http://agrisupportonline.com/mailman/listinfo/agri-talk_agrisupportonline.com Article 34166 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: steppler@cici.mb.ca (Ian) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Willow Pollen & Losses Date: 22 Mar 2003 15:48:14 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.56.136.16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1048376894 19168 127.0.0.1 (22 Mar 2003 23:48:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Mar 2003 23:48:14 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34166 > On another note, I have lost a number of hives with lots of stores and > the bees clustered and dead. Three hives where alive just last weekend and > looked fine. Weather here in South Jersey has been becoming milder. I just > don't understand this. I have been keeping bees for 6 years and have yet to > experience this. I have between 50 and 75 colonies. Any suggestions? Maybe a queen failure in the fall? Maybe heavey v and/or t mite loads? Have you had a cold winter this year? Perhaps the cold held them in a tight cluster, to which they could not bread to get to more food. If your dead clusters are surrounded by empty comb, which is surrounded by honey stores, then the cold killed them by not allowing them to move throughout the hive. Article 34167 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "sldrane@attbi.com" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Global Statistics Lines: 16 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Message-ID: <1wsfa.218776$sf5.129756@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.229.243.190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@attbi.com X-Trace: rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net 1048466557 12.229.243.190 (Mon, 24 Mar 2003 00:42:37 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 00:42:37 GMT Organization: AT&T Broadband Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 00:42:37 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!aanews.merit.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.uchicago.edu!newsfeed.cs.wisc.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34167 Hi Does anyone know of a good site that references the total numbers of beekeeping data, like - total colonies, honey production, practicing commercial and hobbyist beekeepers... in the world? Basically all the data on a global scale for beekeeping and honey production. Thanks Scott Article 34168 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "James Avila" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Global Statistics Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 20:01:10 -0800 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <1wsfa.218776$sf5.129756@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 9 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-04!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34168 Scott, Oops! Forgot to put in the link!!! Here you go! http://www.ams.usda.gov/fv/mncs/fvmonthly.htm James Article 34169 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "James Avila" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Global Statistics Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 20:00:12 -0800 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <1wsfa.218776$sf5.129756@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 7 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!freenix!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34169 Scott, Here is a link for the National Honey Report. It is updated monthly. I believe that it will have most of the info that you are looking for. James Article 34170 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: jim Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Ricin in my Terramycin? Date: 24 Mar 2003 00:29:54 -0800 Organization: Newsguy News Service [http://newsguy.com] Lines: 122 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-083.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: Direct Read News 4.20 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!drn Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34170 With abject and humble apologies to Gil Scott-Heron, but his prediction was wrong - The Revolution WILL Be Televised! ============================================== You may as well just stay home, brother. You plugged in, turned on, and copped out long ago. You will be able to lose yourself in broadcast, and broadband, Skip out for beer during commercials, Because the revolution WILL be televised. EVERY revolution will be televised. All the wars, each border skirmish, every terrorist attack. The revolution will be brought to you by Exxon-Mobil, Gulf, and Amoco, In 24/7 continuous coverage with only brief commercial interruptions. The revolution will show you live pictures and audio from "embedded journalists" bouncing along in Hum-Vees, filming the charge of the light mechanized infantry brigade, punctuated by periodic mind-numbing waits for the helicopter refueling trucks. The revolution is BEING televised. The revolution will not be brought to you by the revolutionaries. It will be brought to you by CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, Fox, ITV, The New York Times, Sky TV, Salon Online Magazine, and Al Jazera. The revolution will make your mouth dry. The revolution will give you goosebumps. The revolution will make you look five pounds thinner. Some pictures will make you lose your appetite. There will be pictures of random civilians pushing shopping carts down the block on the dead run, or trying to slide a color television into a stolen ambulance. NBC will be able predict the winner at 8:32pm, but will change their predictions at 11:45pm, 2:11am, 4:17am, 8:00am, and 11:35am on a precision-guided missile by missile basis. They will report from 29 districts, and use high-resolution declassified spy satellite images as viewers make side bets on which air vent will be the target of the cruise missiles. The revolution IS BEING televised. There will be pictures of 18-year old soldiers shooting down other 18-year old soldiers in slow-motion instant replay. There will be pictures of A-10 "Warthogs" shooting down on tanks in the instant replay. There will be pictures of Saddam Hussein being run out of Baghdad on a rail with a brand new process. There will be a slow motion or still life of someone who looks like Roy Rogers strolling through Umm Qasr in desert camouflage that he had been saving For just the proper occasion. Green Acres, The Beverly Hillbillies, and Hooterville Junction were NEVER relevant, but led us to this. Our Search For Tomorrow has brings us to the helmet cameras of our shock troops as they bring a brighter day to opprossed peoples with AH-64 Apache helicopters, unmanned RQ-1 Predator drones, Hellfire missiles, and 50-caliber machine guns. All revolutions will be televised. There will highlights on the eleven o'clock news and pictures of hairy armed women liberationists and Jackie Onassis blowing her last shred of credibility by offering her opinion on how to run the world. The theme song will not be written by Jim Webb, it will be written by nameless, faceless composers who work for media conglomerates. The commercials will still feature music written by Englebert Humperdink, Rare Earth, and even Pink Floyd. The revolution is that ALL revolutions will be televised. The revolution will be right back after a message about a White Tornado, White Shoulders, or drugs for white people. You will not have to worry about a dove in your bedroom, a tiger in your tank, or the giant in your toilet bowl. You will worry about a bomb in your subway, anthrax in your Borax, ricin in your terramycin, dirty bombs from men with dirty fingernails. The revolution will go better with Coke, at for the soldiers. The revolution will not fight the germs that may cause bad breath, but it will be fought by a coalition including Germans with bad breath. The revolution will NOT put you in the driver's seat. It will keep the gang in possession in control. The revolution WILL be televised, WILL be televised, WILL be televised, IS BEING televised. The revolution will be no re-run brothers; The revolution will be live, via satellite, cellphone, internet, wireless PDA, and video phone. Everything is live. The television is a weapon of mass distraction. copyleft by james h. fischer 2003-03-24 at 3:02am (redistribute at will with attribution) Article 34171 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Keith B. Forsyth" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Global Statistics Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 06:20:37 -0500 Organization: Keith B. 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MM0'6)H#YP4B:@UF64S5^=3)VH!JW938A`#H,8'_K$ /Y)S&U MU!*",3*<,('O\T !J(!#Y#CB9'>'QP(U"HRHS9%3V9BR(@'W_TUN]-2I^)6AM>$9_E =_- QG@ S^X%)P2#ELN%>"Z*5#:J]X>$&"T#@&K]5HB*N(B,V(B.B%81```[ ` end Article 34172 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Paul Bowden" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: BEES AND PUPPY ETC Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Lines: 19 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: host213-122-63-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: sparta.btinternet.com 1048527399 25868 213.122.63.86 (24 Mar 2003 17:36:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:36:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.vmunix.org!newsfeed.stueberl.de!newsr1.ipcore.viaginterkom.de!btnet-peer1!btnet-peer0!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34172 I have recently moved to a new - much, much smaller - garden, where I think I can accommodate just one hive (I shall have to look for an obliging farmer, for the others.) I am also about to acquire a Cairn Terrier puppy, which will be about 8 weeks old, when it arrives in two weeks. What I would like to do is put a screen of fine mesh around the hive - up to a metre or so high - just to get the bees off and up, out of the garden, at a reasonable height, at the very least until the puppy is old enough to be trained and learn from his first bee sting. Has anyone any suggestions of the kind of mesh I might use? I remember seeing a demonstration hive, probably run by the Leicester/Rutland Association, in Leicester market, a couple of years ago: that was, effectively, a tent which enabled members of the public to look in, but no bees to escape. Any comments or advice - applicable to the UK - would be really welcome. Paul Bowden Bottesford (Lincs/Leicester/Notts borders) Article 34173 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: DeLux! Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Re: Honey recipies! Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 42 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:57:40 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.86.200.238 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: tornadotest1.news.pas.earthlink.net 1048550260 209.86.200.238 (Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:57:40 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:57:40 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!HSNX.atgi.net!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!151.164.30.35!cyclone.swbell.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!tornadotest1.news.pas.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34173 On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:00:46 -0000, d9smith@mail.localnet.com (David Smith) shared: >In article , "Wuffman" > wrote: > >Peel cloves of garlic, cover with honey. This slow because honey moves >slowy. Wait until garlic softens up. Seperate the cloves and garlic. A >teaspoon can be a home made antisore throat treatment, or the begining of >a great glaze. If you don't feel well, try "My Nana's Hot Toddy" Take the peels of one or two grapefruits, wash, just cover them with water and boil till soft. Take out peels and save liquid. To this add 1 or 2 tablespoons honey and dissolve. Then add lemon juice and more hot water to make a lemon aide consistency. Then for each 12 oz. glass, add one shot Southern Comfort. This little medicinal will cure you of whatever ails you. Especially good for colds and flu. I'll go back to lurking, now... Doris For -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "My Mother used to tell me, 'In this world, Elwood, you must be oh so smart, or oh, so pleasant.' I recommend pleasant. You can quote me on that." Elwood P. Dowd -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= alt.binaries.pictures.poultry & sci.agriculture.poultry Remove "shoes" to reply Article 34174 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Gadget Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: BEES AND PUPPY ETC Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:31:56 +0000 Organization: Gadgeland Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.134.101.113 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed X-Trace: newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk 1048582720 13207 217.134.101.113 (25 Mar 2003 08:58:40 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Mar 2003 08:58:40 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-U () Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!bluewatch.fsnet.co.uk!gadget Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34174 Paul Bowden, On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, you wrote: >What I would like to do is put a screen of fine mesh around the hive - >up to a metre or so high - just to get the bees off and up, out of the >garden, at a reasonable height, at the very least until the puppy is >old enough to be trained and learn from his first bee sting. Has >anyone any suggestions of the kind of mesh I might use? Wind netting [from agricultural merchants/garden centres] usually on 1m wide rolls, fixed to stakes at 2m intervals [closer if you are using wimpy little stakes]. -- Gadget [W Devon, UK to email me direct use; gadget((at))bluewatch((dot))fsnet((dot))co((dot))uk sorry about all the spamblockage! Article 34175 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Reply-To: "Bonnie" From: "Bonnie" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Where to place Hive? Lines: 6 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:55:02 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.186.166.243 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ptd.net X-Trace: nnrp1.ptd.net 1048607702 204.186.166.243 (Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:55:02 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:55:02 EST Organization: PenTeleData http://www.ptd.net Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!news-out.spamkiller.net!propagator2-maxim!news-in.spamkiller.net!propagator3-maxim!propagator-maxim!feed.newsfeeds.com!ptdnetT!newsgateT.ptd.net!ptdnetS!newsgate.ptd.net!nnrp1.ptd.net.POSTED!3831230c!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34175 I'm just starting out with beekeeping and am wondering if there is a certain place the hive should be placed? Dennis Article 34176 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 14 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: bobpursley@aol.com (Bob Pursley) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 25 Mar 2003 18:38:02 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: Session Scheduler (Queue Name: gng-ft) Subject: Re: Where to place Hive? Message-ID: <20030325133802.10819.00000075@mb-ft.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!usenet01.sei.cmu.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m1.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34176 In article , "Bonnie" writes: > >I'm just starting out with beekeeping and am wondering if there is a certain >place the hive should be placed? > out of the wind, facing away from people walkpaths, in light shade if available, on level ground, secure from vandals and children, where the lawnmower will not come near, and others will comment on this also. I urge you to start with two hives, not one, it opens many possibilities and helps you greatly. Bob Pursley Article 34177 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: albert.cannon@lineone.net (albert cannon) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Worthing Beekeepers Website - UK Date: 25 Mar 2003 11:48:08 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 14 Message-ID: <4169b71c.0303251148.3fbc4a97@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.225.108.113 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1048621688 25323 127.0.0.1 (25 Mar 2003 19:48:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Mar 2003 19:48:08 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34177 Steve Newport wrote in message news:... > I have just published a website for the Worthing Beekeepers > Association in West Sussex UK. > > www.worthingbeekeepers.fsnet.co.uk > > Please take a look and let me have some feedback. > > Thanks > Steve Newport Having to read things against the busy cell background is a bit disconcerting. it strains the eyes too much albert cannon Article 34178 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Steve Newport Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Worthing Beekeepers Website - UK Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 00:48:39 +0000 Lines: 11 Message-ID: <44u18vg9det5oee2jjh4dfmmsts0omfj8n@4ax.com> References: <4169b71c.0303251148.3fbc4a97@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.25.212.200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news8.svr.pol.co.uk 1048638733 14120 62.25.212.200 (26 Mar 2003 00:32:13 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Mar 2003 00:32:13 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34178 Yes. Have already had that comment. Will have to look at that. Whilst writing on the subject I was trying to track down more info on 'Honey for Sub Mariners' during WWI. Somebody mentioned it but gave not details. Anybody know anything? (UK based) On 25 Mar 2003 11:48:08 -0800, albert.cannon@lineone.net (albert >Having to read things against the busy cell background is a bit >disconcerting. it strains the eyes too much >albert cannon Article 34179 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Judy and Dave G" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: Where to place Hive? Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:05:38 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 81 Message-ID: <3e810b76$0$89194$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net> Organization: FUSE Internet Access NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.68.43.37 X-Trace: 1048644472 nnrp1.fuse.net 89194 216.68.43.37 X-Complaints-To: abuse@fuse.net Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!worldnet.att.net!208.49.253.98!newsfeed.news2me.com!newshosting.com!news-xfer1.atl.newshosting.com!nntp1.fuse.net!nnrp.fuse.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34179 "Bonnie" wrote in message news:qZ_fa.16$TW2.25469@nnrp1.ptd.net... > I'm just starting out with beekeeping and am wondering if there is a certain > place the hive should be placed? > > Dennis > Dennis: Here are a few hints. Place your hive with the front (opening) facing east, or southeast. There are a number of explanations for this. You want the bees to wake up and get moving with the sun rising. Around here the wind almost always comes from the west, so your hive would be protected from these winds. Try to place the hive with some form of wind protection. It could just be on the downhill side of a hill, or even next to or behind a large bin, building, or wall. When the bees are keeping those babies warm, any help you can give them is good. Especially in early spring when the weather and temps change by the day. Bees will fill the cracks with propolis to seal them against wind. However, us beekeepers insist on picking up their roofs and looking into their home and breaking those seals. You want to avoid any location that sits low: the bottom of a hill, next to a creek or river, even a dip in the yard area. In spring the weather tends to be more moist than in the summer. And that moisture usually sits in the low spots. These conditions can contribute to the development of nosema in bees. A little afternoon shade will be appreciated on those hot, summer days. Help the bees keep their hive cool. A water source should be nearby. (Hopefully not a neighbors pool or bird bath.) You can provide shrubs/fences to control the bees flyways. If the hive is placed facing a fence, the bees will adjust their flight to immediately rise to pass the fence. Normally, they will stay close to that level till they get close to their destination. They won't waste energy going up and down, they will go up or down when necessary to shorten the flight. Out of sight will assist in avoiding vandalism. Some vandals will attack no matter what, but the harder you make it for them to find your hives, the better off your bees will be. When preparing the site for the hive: Hives should be set up off the ground. (use cement blocks, ironwork, etc.) This height can be used to avoid ant and other crawling bug problems. It helps just a bit to make a skunk get up on its back legs to get the bees. It exposes his little thinly furred belly and gives the bees a chance to fight back. If you choose to use open mesh bottom boards later on, you won't have to redesign your hive stand. Hives should tilt slightly forward. This allows drainage of any moisture or rain water out the front of the hive. A clear area in front of the hives will help you to observe your bees better. Sometimes what is crawling in front of the hive is all you have to go on when trying to solve a problem. If the weeds are high, you can't see the crawlers. We do have a beekeeper who plants peppermint directly in front of her hives, very thick. The peppermint grows higher than the entrance to the hive. The bees have to pass or fly through the mint. She thinks the mint helps in varroa control. For your consideration. Some of our beekeepers have used roof shingles right in front of the hives. Makes it easier to mow without having to get right next to the hive. Install your bees in late afternoon or evening to minimize the chance of absconding. HTH Judy in Kentucky, USA Article 34180 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "David Eyre" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Willow Pollen & Losses Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:16:05 -0500 Organization: The Bee Works Message-ID: Reply-To: "David Eyre" References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 15 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34180 > Maybe a queen failure in the fall? Maybe heavey v and/or t mite > loads? Have you had a cold winter this year? Perhaps the cold held > them in a tight cluster, to which they could not bread to get to more > food. If your dead clusters are surrounded by empty comb, which is > surrounded by honey stores, then the cold killed them by not allowing > them to move throughout the hive. Wrapping with black tar paper is a good cure of super chill. I haven't lost a winter hive for 12 years. I know the cry goes up "We don't have to wrap where we live"! If you lost hives to super chill, then you need to wrap. Saves a lot of money! Regards Dave.... Article 34181 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Reply-To: "Bonnie" From: "Bonnie" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <3e810b76$0$89194$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net> Subject: Re: Where to place Hive? Lines: 6 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 03:51:57 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.186.190.6 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ptd.net X-Trace: nnrp1.ptd.net 1048650717 204.186.190.6 (Tue, 25 Mar 2003 22:51:57 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 22:51:57 EST Organization: PenTeleData http://www.ptd.net Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.frii.net!newsfeed.frii.net!204.186.200.232.MISMATCH!ptdnetT!newsgateT.ptd.net!ptdnetS!newsgate.ptd.net!nnrp1.ptd.net.POSTED!3831230c!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34181 Thank you for all your info! Much appreciated. I'm sure I'll be back with more questions in time!! Dennis Article 34182 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Reply-To: "Jim Sharp" From: "Jim Sharp" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Adding Supers? Lines: 16 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <4Bhga.102938$iq1.46118@nwrddc02.gnilink.net> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:06:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.47.219.113 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrddc02.gnilink.net 1048683968 4.47.219.113 (Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:06:08 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:06:08 EST Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!out.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!news-in.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller.gnilink.net!nwrddc02.gnilink.net.POSTED!1b6a651e!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34182 I have empty supers with drawn comb from last year and I'm adding some new boxes with just foundation. What's the conventional wisdom for adding mixing them? Mix drawn comb frames with foundation frames in a super or keep the frames with foundation and drawn comb separate? Thanks Jim -- SHARP CURBING Concrete Landscape Borders http://sharpcurbing.com Article 34183 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: The Bidata beekeeping software Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 15:19:27 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 26 Message-ID: <3e81b6d8$0$52200$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.249.242.89 X-Trace: 1048688344 dread16.news.tele.dk 52200 195.249.242.89 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34183 Dear fellow beekeepers! After the last fixes the Bidata beekeeping software is again on trail! You will not longer see a Microsoft error popping up, and you will also no longer see an error if database is empty! I promised a software to make it possible to have a full run for a new 30 days trial : http://apimo.dk/programs/bidata_clean.zip 216 KB unzip and run the included software. This software will only be of onetime use. http://apimo.dk/programs/23_03_2003.zip 2,17 MB for an update. You must have the full package installed. Unzip to typical : [ProgramFilesFolder]\Apimo Biavl\Bidata Win95-98\ directoy If you in anger have thrown the big achieve out then please download again. Http://apimo.dk/programs/beekeping_hivenote.exe 15,8 MB -- Best regards Jorn Johanesson visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software and other beekeeping stuff. Article 34184 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: steppler@cici.mb.ca (Ian) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Adding Supers? Date: 26 Mar 2003 09:56:25 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <4Bhga.102938$iq1.46118@nwrddc02.gnilink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.56.136.17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1048701385 28131 127.0.0.1 (26 Mar 2003 17:56:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Mar 2003 17:56:25 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34184 "Jim Sharp" wrote in message news:<4Bhga.102938$iq1.46118@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>... > I have empty supers with drawn comb from last year > and I'm adding some new boxes with just foundation. > What's the conventional wisdom for adding mixing them? > > Mix drawn comb frames with foundation frames in a super > or keep the frames with foundation and drawn comb separate? > > Thanks > Jim Well the best thing you can do is intermix them. But I never like to draw anymore than one frame/super. It takes about seven to eight pounds of honey to draw foundation, and alot of honey bee work. Sometimes when drawing out too much at a time, you will get miss shappened burr combed frames. The best time to draw out foundation is during a heavey honey flow or in the early spring with heavey sugar surip feeding. I run nine drawn frames per honey super, and I just add the foundation into the middle of the super. This somewhat ensures proper bee space and straight drawn comb Ian Article 34185 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:29:49 -0600 From: "me" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <4Bhga.102938$iq1.46118@nwrddc02.gnilink.net> Subject: Re: Adding Supers? 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Or, if you want to get it drawn quickly, put the super with the foundation on without the others. Either way, drawing comb requires a nectar flow or continuous feeding with 1:1 syrup. West Texas Mark "Jim Sharp" wrote in message news:4Bhga.102938$iq1.46118@nwrddc02.gnilink.net... I have empty supers with drawn comb from last year and I'm adding some new boxes with just foundation. What's the conventional wisdom for adding mixing them? Mix drawn comb frames with foundation frames in a super or keep the frames with foundation and drawn comb separate? Thanks Jim -- SHARP CURBING Concrete Landscape Borders http://sharpcurbing.com Article 34186 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: steppler@cici.mb.ca (Ian) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Adding Supers? Date: 26 Mar 2003 16:37:45 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <4Bhga.102938$iq1.46118@nwrddc02.gnilink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.56.136.23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1048725465 17820 127.0.0.1 (27 Mar 2003 00:37:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Mar 2003 00:37:45 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34186 " > Just put the super with foundation over the queen excluder and stack the > supers with drawn comb on top. Or, if you want to get it drawn quickly, put > the super with the foundation on without the others. Either way, drawing > comb requires a nectar flow or continuous feeding with 1:1 syrup. I would not recomend placing a full super of foundation over the queen excluder. You run the risk of creating a barrier, keeping the bees down longer and forcing some of your honeycrop into the brood chambers, Article 34187 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:54:16 -0600 From: "me" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <4Bhga.102938$iq1.46118@nwrddc02.gnilink.net> Subject: Re: Adding Supers? Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:53:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.198.129.148 X-Trace: sv3-Jf4fzUmJT/gYG2o7D7VunQnSL7SDj+GklME7vrpTndidRVYk1+ob7U4YP9a8DBHziK3FaMUBQ2/3MwL!kDhf/r6RskDpqrLtyKvjJtU1qDzV0UzlvYGjuBK6U6/INcoA+O6Ksc9x5d8rFzPbK5r4Oyo= X-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.crcom.net!news.crcom.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34187 Good point! You can check on their progress in a few days - four is a good number. If it looks like they're not working on it, remove the excluder until they get a good start, then put it back. The queen won't cross the foundation to go up into the other supers when you do this. If there's drawn comb above the foundation, they tend to draw it out quicker than if you just put the foundation on top of the other supers. Spraying some sugar water on the foundation seems to get them going too. West Texas Mark "Ian" wrote in message news:cdaa9ae0.0303261637.65639bc1@posting.google.com... " > Just put the super with foundation over the queen excluder and stack the > supers with drawn comb on top. Or, if you want to get it drawn quickly, put > the super with the foundation on without the others. Either way, drawing > comb requires a nectar flow or continuous feeding with 1:1 syrup. I would not recomend placing a full super of foundation over the queen excluder. You run the risk of creating a barrier, keeping the bees down longer and forcing some of your honeycrop into the brood chambers, Article 34188 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Bruce Yates Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: why are bees so mad? Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:14:59 -0600 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 15 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stueberl.de!teaser.fr!freenix!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34188 I went to turn my compost pile yesterday, which is next to my hive. Done this several times since I got the hive with no problem. Yesterday they decided they did not like that at all. Warm day in the 70s. Same temps two days before when I mowed and used my weed eater right up next to the hive with no problem. Told a neighbor who also has a new hive and he said his got after him when he was tilling his garden, about 100 feet away, the very same afternoon. It had rained the day before and kept the bees in the hive most of the day. Just wondering if it had something to do with the weather, if they are aggressive bees, or if this is just what I should expect from time to time. Thanks, Bruce Article 34189 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "James Avila" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: why are bees so mad? Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 19:58:21 -0800 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 8 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.news2me.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34189 Bruce Check out the messages on the newsgroup dated the 17th of March. There are several messages regarding the same issue. Seems they may be getting the water that lands on the compost pile - they seem to like stinky water!! James Article 34190 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "mark mski" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: What to do about bears? Lines: 21 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <6HVga.8840$497.2025418920@newssvr10.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.252.100.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr10.news.prodigy.com 1048848194 ST000 64.252.100.18 (Fri, 28 Mar 2003 05:43:14 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 05:43:14 EST Organization: Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com X-UserInfo1: [[PGWX_LXJTYB_@ZKRIN_]XB^B^FBLPLGPQZKB]MPXHBTWICYFWUQBKZQLYJX\_ITFD_KFVLUN[DOM_A_NSYNWPFWNS[XV\I]PZ@BQ[@CDQDPCL^FKCBIPC@KLGEZEFNMDYMKHRL_YYYGDSSODXYN@[\BK[LVTWI@AXGQCOA_SAH@TPD^\AL\RLGRFWEARBM Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:43:14 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr10.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34190 I live in what is almost a suburban area in west central Connecticut. So even though I heard reports of bears around my area, I scoffed at them being a threat to me. But all that changed when late October, 2 of my three hives were tossed around the yard. Claw marks were found in the comb and a couple of frames were missing. At that time, I was relieved to see that both queens survived. Forward to this week. I thought the bear attack was a one time deal, for much time have elapsed. But twice this week, my weakest of hives have been turned over and ransacked. I'm curious of what my options are to prevent such activity. BTW, moving my hives is not an option. thanks, mark Article 34191 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: why are bees so mad? Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:14:50 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 16 Message-ID: <3e843c94.564344891@news1.radix.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ip174.sns.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.radix.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34191 On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 19:58:21 -0800, "James Avila" wrote: >Bruce > Check out the messages on the newsgroup dated the 17th of March. There >are several messages regarding the same issue. Seems they may be getting the >water that lands on the compost pile - they seem to like stinky water!! > >James > > Or they are just females and you can't out guess them. beekeep Article 34192 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Timothy Eisele Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: What to do about bears? Date: 28 Mar 2003 08:28:58 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3e844e1a$1@mtunews.mtu.edu> References: <6HVga.8840$497.2025418920@newssvr10.news.prodigy.com> X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX IT-DCS binary version 970321; sun4u SunOS 5.8] X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.219.24.210 X-Original-Trace: 28 Mar 2003 08:28:58 -0500, 141.219.24.210 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 43 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!208.49.253.98!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.easynews.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-04!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!mtunews.mtu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34192 mark mski wrote: > I live in what is almost a suburban area in west central Connecticut. So > even though I heard reports of bears around my area, I scoffed at them being > a threat to me. > But all that changed when late October, 2 of my three hives were tossed > around the yard. Claw marks were found in the comb and a couple of frames > were missing. At that time, I was relieved to see that both queens > survived. > Forward to this week. I thought the bear attack was a one time deal, for > much time have elapsed. But twice this week, my weakest of hives have been > turned over and ransacked. > I'm curious of what my options are to prevent such activity. BTW, moving my > hives is not an option. From my experience, there are two things you should do right away: 1. Put up a *good* electric fence. Get the highest-power fence energizer you can, build a multi-strand fence at least 4 feet high with the wires spaced no more than 6 inches apart, make sure that the bear will be well grounded when he touches the fence (if the ground isn't moist enough to make a good ground path, you can put down some chicken-wire that the bear will be standing on when he touches the fence). Then, either drape strips of raw bacon over the wires, or punch some holes in some cans of tuna fish and hang them from the wires. This way, the first jolt the bear gets will be inside the mouth. This is very discouraging for most bears. 2. Your bear already has a taste for honey, and the fence *might* not be able to stop him anymore, so call your state Department of Natural Resources (or your state's equivalent) and report a nuisance bear. They are likely to come out and relocate it, or give you some "flash-bang" shells for a shotgun that you can use to chase the bear off. This is what I did. I didn't have to follow up with the state, because the fence turned out to be enough, but they are there to call for the stubborn cases. -- Tim Eisele tceisele@mtu.edu Article 34193 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Ricin in my Terramycin? Date: 28 Mar 2003 06:31:38 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 2 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0303280631.5accaa2f@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.29.99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1048861898 2859 127.0.0.1 (28 Mar 2003 14:31:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Mar 2003 14:31:38 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34193 There is no revolution. Insurrection is not revolution. Article 34194 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: beehunter50@yahoo.com (Ray Morgan) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: What to do about bears? Date: 28 Mar 2003 06:40:56 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 26 Message-ID: <504d7af0.0303280640.25818864@posting.google.com> References: <6HVga.8840$497.2025418920@newssvr10.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.35.181.91 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1048862457 3357 127.0.0.1 (28 Mar 2003 14:40:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Mar 2003 14:40:57 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34194 Kill em!!! If thats not an option then you can build over screens out of heavy rock screen. Rock crushers have used around. The bear will not leave. Ray "mark mski" wrote in message news:<6HVga.8840$497.2025418920@newssvr10.news.prodigy.com>... > I live in what is almost a suburban area in west central Connecticut. So > even though I heard reports of bears around my area, I scoffed at them being > a threat to me. > > But all that changed when late October, 2 of my three hives were tossed > around the yard. Claw marks were found in the comb and a couple of frames > were missing. At that time, I was relieved to see that both queens > survived. > > Forward to this week. I thought the bear attack was a one time deal, for > much time have elapsed. But twice this week, my weakest of hives have been > turned over and ransacked. > > I'm curious of what my options are to prevent such activity. BTW, moving my > hives is not an option. > > thanks, > > mark Article 34195 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Bruce Yates Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: why are bees so mad? Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:37:33 -0600 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 15 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34195 They are not actually on the compost pile. They are coming from the hive. On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 19:58:21 -0800, "James Avila" wrote: >Bruce > Check out the messages on the newsgroup dated the 17th of March. There >are several messages regarding the same issue. Seems they may be getting the >water that lands on the compost pile - they seem to like stinky water!! > >James > Article 34196 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: paul_bilodeau1@excite.com (Paul Bilodeau) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: What to do about bears? Date: 28 Mar 2003 07:56:45 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <6HVga.8840$497.2025418920@newssvr10.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.186.164.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1048867005 7688 127.0.0.1 (28 Mar 2003 15:56:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Mar 2003 15:56:45 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34196 Mark, I'm kind of in the same predicament... I have recently moved to an area that supposedly has some bears roaming around. I haven't yet set-up my bees but have had some good advice. Here is what I was told, if a bear has already attacked your hives and knows where they are, and how good the honey is, there isn't a fence made out there that will stop them. Even an electric fence won't stop them. The trick is to install the electric fence BEFORE setting up the hives, that way, when the bears come around, they will feel the zap of the electricity and stay away. If they have already gotten into your hives, they will simply mow over the fence. If you try to put up a chainlink fence, they'll push and lean against it until they break it down. Here's another thought, there are 2 ways to look at the problem. The first is to build a fence to keep the bears out. Work on the SYMPTOM. The second is to remove the bear. Work on the SOURCE. Since you have already lost the chance to use the fence idea, you may want to call your local animal control officer or biologist to see if the bear can be trapped and removed. Sorry that it is not an easy fix, Hope this helps, Paul Article 34197 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: What to do about bears? Date: 28 Mar 2003 10:09:40 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 8 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0303281009.159c2af9@posting.google.com> References: <6HVga.8840$497.2025418920@newssvr10.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.31.154 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1048874981 14893 127.0.0.1 (28 Mar 2003 18:09:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Mar 2003 18:09:41 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34197 > mark Mark the bears have only a few months to pack enough weight on their bodies to overwinter and the protien in bee brood suits them fine. You are going to have to learn how to electric fence the apiary and perhaps contact the game wardens if that idiot Roland hasn't laid them all off. Suburban and bears probably means relocation or worse. Article 34198 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "btinternet.com" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: why are bees so mad? Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 19:31:37 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 24 Message-ID: <3e84a2a6$0$59854$65c69314@mercury.nildram.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.6.253.18 X-Trace: 1048879782 mercury.nildram.net 59854 81.6.253.18 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!nntp.theplanet.net!inewsm1.nntp.theplanet.net!zen.net.uk!lon1-news.nildram.net!195.149.20.147.MISMATCH!mercury.nildram.co.uk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34198 probably you are sweating to much "Bruce Yates" wrote in message news:t0r88vchvcu92luha02opk6943r12nj6rq@4ax.com... > They are not actually on the compost pile. They are coming from the > hive. > > > On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 19:58:21 -0800, "James Avila" > wrote: > > >Bruce > > Check out the messages on the newsgroup dated the 17th of March. There > >are several messages regarding the same issue. Seems they may be getting the > >water that lands on the compost pile - they seem to like stinky water!! > > > >James > > > Article 34199 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Fall strategy/winter losses Date: 28 Mar 2003 14:48:02 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 9 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0303281448.137d5020@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.15.247 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1048891683 29963 127.0.0.1 (28 Mar 2003 22:48:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Mar 2003 22:48:03 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34199 Last fall I left extra honey on the hives to overwinter on. I think in retrospect I should have taken the honey and fed a bit of 1:1 syrup. Notice I said 1:1. We had drought in late summer and fall and I think colony sizes were small going into winter. A little stimulative feeding just might have helped. Mites here are definately shrugging off apistan too. Heavy losses exceeding 50% Southeast CT USA Article 34200 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: steppler@cici.mb.ca (Ian) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Fall strategy/winter losses Date: 29 Mar 2003 13:41:15 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <23e8adb1.0303281448.137d5020@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.56.136.42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1048974076 28747 127.0.0.1 (29 Mar 2003 21:41:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Mar 2003 21:41:16 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34200 > Last fall I left extra honey on the hives to overwinter on. > I think in retrospect I should have taken the honey and fed a bit of > 1:1 syrup. > Notice I said 1:1. We had drought in late summer and fall and I think > colony sizes were small going into winter. A little stimulative > feeding just might have helped. That would of been the worst thing you could of done. Fall feeding is done to boost up wintering stores, and done with a thick surip to reduce the amount of moisture to be removed. A 1:1 surip would of created a stressful enviroment for the bees, taking the moisture out of the surip. Stimulated brood situation bees going into winter would result in placing even more stress on the bees, having to care for the young through cold temps. Small populations going into winter is never a good thing, but you would of done them more harm trying to rear more brood. Ian Article 34201 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jose Matas \(Mallorca - Spain\)" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Need Greek Queens Inmediatly. Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 13:22:09 +0200 Lines: 45 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2F6BF.5DDD0EF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.73.49.186 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.73.49.186 Message-ID: <3e86d366@news.airtel.net> X-Trace: news.airtel.net 1049023334 212.73.49.186 (30 Mar 2003 13:22:14 +0100) Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!pullfeed!news.airtel.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34201 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2F6BF.5DDD0EF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would appreciate the addres, preferably e-mail for Greek queens = exporters, I am mean Greek since they are exporting rigth now. 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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2F6BF.5DDD0EF0-- Article 34202 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Fall strategy/winter losses Date: 30 Mar 2003 07:30:08 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 23 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0303300730.2813309e@posting.google.com> References: <23e8adb1.0303281448.137d5020@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.29.94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1049038208 28012 127.0.0.1 (30 Mar 2003 15:30:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Mar 2003 15:30:08 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34202 steppler@cici.mb.ca (Ian) wrote in message news:... > > Last fall I left extra honey on the hives to overwinter on. > > I think in retrospect I should have taken the honey and fed a bit of > > 1:1 syrup. > > Notice I said 1:1. We had drought in late summer and fall and I think > > colony sizes were small going into winter. A little stimulative > > feeding just might have helped. > > > That would of been the worst thing you could of done. Fall feeding is > done to boost up wintering stores, and done with a thick surip to > reduce the amount of moisture to be removed. A 1:1 surip would of > created a stressful enviroment for the bees, taking the moisture out > of the surip. Stimulated brood situation bees going into winter would > result in placing even more stress on the bees, having to care for the > young through cold temps. > Small populations going into winter is never a good thing, but you > would of done them more harm trying to rear more brood. > > Ian The hives in question are dead, would they be more dead had they gone into winter with enough bees to thermorugulate? Article 34203 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: steppler@cici.mb.ca (Ian) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: why are bees so mad? Date: 30 Mar 2003 09:11:24 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.56.136.26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1049044284 31049 127.0.0.1 (30 Mar 2003 17:11:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Mar 2003 17:11:24 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34203 It had rained > the day before and kept the bees in the hive most of the day. > > Just wondering if it had something to do with the weather, if they are > aggressive bees, or if this is just what I should expect from time to Bees seem to get cranky during humid weather. I would not worry about aggressive bees, if there not aggressive anyother time Ian Article 34204 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: steppler@cici.mb.ca (Ian) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: What to do about bears? Date: 30 Mar 2003 09:17:37 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <6HVga.8840$497.2025418920@newssvr10.news.prodigy.com> <23e8adb1.0303281009.159c2af9@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.56.136.26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1049044657 31230 127.0.0.1 (30 Mar 2003 17:17:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Mar 2003 17:17:37 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34204 >>Even an electric fence won't stop them. As soon as they get a taste of your honey, they will be back regardless of an electric fence. Put one up before they find your honey. You will notice the beeyard attacks are more severe during time of minimal availiability of food. If the bear is full, the bear will walk right through your yard... Ian Article 34205 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: steppler@cici.mb.ca (Ian) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Fall strategy/winter losses Date: 30 Mar 2003 12:45:12 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <23e8adb1.0303281448.137d5020@posting.google.com> <23e8adb1.0303300730.2813309e@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.56.136.38 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1049057113 5343 127.0.0.1 (30 Mar 2003 20:45:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Mar 2003 20:45:13 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34205 > The hives in question are dead, would they be more dead had they gone > into winter with enough bees to thermorugulate? You suggested losses of 50%. By stimulating late fall brood rearing, you may have been encountering losses of 75% - or more. It is why stimulating prolonged brood rearing is not a commonly accepted practice... Ian Article 34206 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "BiG Orange" <@> Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Worthing Beekeepers Website - UK Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 20:35:18 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 16 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34206 A definite nominee for Worst of the Web. "Steve Newport" wrote in message news:mgth7vcq08a7gfmqqn5832qnc147b87ohh@4ax.com... > I have just published a website for the Worthing Beekeepers > Association in West Sussex UK. > > www.worthingbeekeepers.fsnet.co.uk > > Please take a look and let me have some feedback. > > Thanks > Steve Newport > Article 34207 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: kadney@turbotek.net (Ken) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: why are bees so mad? Date: 31 Mar 2003 17:37:31 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 3 Message-ID: <7fe11997.0303311737.4af3f8eb@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.3.22.241 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1049161051 29481 127.0.0.1 (1 Apr 2003 01:37:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Apr 2003 01:37:31 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34207 My experience is that they also react to the hum of machinery. Mine don't seem to mind the lawnmower but the weedwacker really gets 'em up & about. Article 34208 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <3E88F50E.50003@pitt.edu> From: Tony Capon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: What to do about bears? References: <6HVga.8840$497.2025418920@newssvr10.news.prodigy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 33 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 02:10:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.151.238.111 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrdny03.gnilink.net 1049163021 141.151.238.111 (Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:10:21 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:10:21 EST Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!199.45.49.37!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!nwrdny03.gnilink.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34208 Try putting a radio set to one of those annoying talk stations in the bee yard. Human voices may keep the bear away long enough to get a bee fence set up. And with the sound of voices the bear will probably be cautious approaching the fence; it probably won't charge right through it, giving it a chance to get a shock. If that doesn't work, the fish and wildlife commission will probably have to trap it. mark mski wrote: >I live in what is almost a suburban area in west central Connecticut. So >even though I heard reports of bears around my area, I scoffed at them being >a threat to me. > >But all that changed when late October, 2 of my three hives were tossed >around the yard. Claw marks were found in the comb and a couple of frames >were missing. At that time, I was relieved to see that both queens >survived. > >Forward to this week. I thought the bear attack was a one time deal, for >much time have elapsed. But twice this week, my weakest of hives have been >turned over and ransacked. > >I'm curious of what my options are to prevent such activity. BTW, moving my >hives is not an option. > >thanks, > >mark > > > > Article 34209 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "TRIKER" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <6HVga.8840$497.2025418920@newssvr10.news.prodigy.com> <3E88F50E.50003@pitt.edu> Subject: Re: What to do about bears? Lines: 52 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:44:29 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.238.131.18 X-Trace: eagle.america.net 1049168487 64.238.131.18 (Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:41:27 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:41:27 EST Organization: 24hoursupport.com Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!out.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!news-in.nuthinbutnews.com!falcon.america.net!eagle.america.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34209 This is an EXPLOSIVE method and will make a LOT of noise as well as possible sending shards of sharp metal flying so don't try this in an urban backyard. Get some starting fluid from the auto parts store, wrap a strip of fresh bacon around can with a rubber band and place on top of hive. THIS WILL ATTRACT BEARS they love bacon. But one bite into the can of started fluid (ether) will set them running for new areas and they will stay away. This is an EXPLOSIVE method and will make a LOT of noise as well as possible sending shards of sharp metal flying so don't try this in an urban backyard. "Tony Capon" wrote in message news:3E88F50E.50003@pitt.edu... Try putting a radio set to one of those annoying talk stations in the bee yard. Human voices may keep the bear away long enough to get a bee fence set up. And with the sound of voices the bear will probably be cautious approaching the fence; it probably won't charge right through it, giving it a chance to get a shock. If that doesn't work, the fish and wildlife commission will probably have to trap it. mark mski wrote: >I live in what is almost a suburban area in west central Connecticut. So >even though I heard reports of bears around my area, I scoffed at them being >a threat to me. > >But all that changed when late October, 2 of my three hives were tossed >around the yard. Claw marks were found in the comb and a couple of frames >were missing. At that time, I was relieved to see that both queens >survived. > >Forward to this week. I thought the bear attack was a one time deal, for >much time have elapsed. But twice this week, my weakest of hives have been >turned over and ransacked. > >I'm curious of what my options are to prevent such activity. BTW, moving my >hives is not an option. > >thanks, > >mark > > > >