From Sandpeep@aol.comWed Mar 15 22:59:31 1995 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 20:49:50 -0500 From: Sandpeep@aol.com Reply to: homestead@world.std.com To: homestead@world.std.com Subject: Re: food shortages & Trees Read with interest discussion on food distribution vs. actual food shortage - for an excellent, in depth book, STRONGLY suggest "FOOD FIRST, Beyond the Myth of Scarcity" By Frances Moore Lappe and Joseph Collins - although the info is a little old by now, it'll make you so made you'll want to track down Earl Butz (Nixon's Sec of Ag) and hang him - if he's dead, you'll want to dig him up and hang him to make sure. I'm no conspiracy nut, but the way various administration in this country have used food as a carrot/stick against our friends and enemies at the expense of our farmers, consumers and taxpayers is just incredible. It also explains how the world bank was (is?) used as a tool of foreign aid allowing the executive branch or our government to do what it damn well pleased w/o checking with congress. Both authors also wrote "(9?) or (15?) myths about world hunger" (can't remember the number), which was much shorter, but had more up to date info. Based on their two books, there's a "Food First Institute" in Oakland CA which keeps track of big brother in this area - if you TRUELY want to eliminate world hunger - support these people. Even when our government is trying to do the right thing for the right reason, its still amazing how bad we "blow it", and only make the problem worse. (Good example - earthquake in Central American country - we send in food aid, which ends up fueling a black market undermining the government we're trying to help, while at the same time, driving farmers from that same country (in a part of the country not affected by the quake) out of business, as it's very hard to compete with free govt. give aways & make a profit. Other (better know example) during famine in Ethiopia, while we were exporting basic foods thethem, the country was exporting green beans to England in order to service the interest on their World Bank loans. Read the books & get angry!! As for the idea of planting trees for retirement - not bad, but....remember dutch elm disease? or what happened to the American Chesnut tree? How about gypsy moths? Sounds like a good idea, but only planting one or two different species would seem to bring with it all the problems of running a mono-culture farm - maybe no problems, but you pray you can get the crop in before Mother Nature sends that particular pest, weather, fungus, whatever that can wipe out a whole crop - but with trees, you don't worry about a year's crop at a time, would think "condition sweat" would be the norm for the whole 30 yrs. (and what about payback - although delayed & large if successful, what's paying the taxes on the land in the meantime? Isn't there a permaculture idea of interplanting different species of trees, harvesting the fast growing ones just as the more valuable, longer growing trees need the extra room? What about growing poplar (or some other fast growing "cheap" hardwood - better yet Neem trees if warm enough) and harvesting when they are mature, but before the walnut/cherry/big ticket crop gets crowded? Believe it's called "stacking" multiple use of the same land at the same time. There's also smaller payouts prior to the "big payday" and diversification helps if the "podunk basswood beetle" or some other nonindigenous critter shows up (w/no nature predators in your area), and starts chowing down. Sandpeep