Re: prepositions with kai

Braulio A. Barillas S. (parakal@quetzal.net)
Thu, 10 Oct 1996 21:39:15 -0600

At 12:41 PM 10/8/96 -0500, you wrote:
>At 2:49 PM -0500 10/8/96, T & J Peterson wrote:
>>I'm working on a study of John 3:5 and pursuing an investigation of the
>>grammatical structure in "ex hudotos kai pneumatos." I've read the
>>suggestion that the preposition followed by two anarthrous nouns, joined
>>with a kai, indicates a particular relationship (albeit without the
>>strength of the GS rule). I cannot, however, find anything substantially
>>defending that this construction does in fact show a grammatical tie
>>between the two nouns, and I don't have access to the software to search
>>for other examples. Any ideas?
>
>Purely off the top of my head (protected only by enough hair--grey--to
>cover the emptiness within), I think any talk of such a notion as the
>
>>suggestion that the preposition followed by two anarthrous nouns, joined
>>with a kai, indicates a particular relationship (albeit without the
>>strength of the GS rule).
>
>is unmitigated nonsense. Were it EK TE HUDATOS KAI PNEUMATOS, or EK TOU TE
>HUDATOS KAI TOU PNEUMATOS, or the like, I could see a tight linkage (as
>could anybody at all), but to attribute this sort of weight to a simple
>KAI? I can't believe it. If there IS any evidence for it, I would certainly
>like to see it.
>
>
>Carl W. Conrad
>Department of Classics, Washington University
>One Brookings Drive, St. Louis, MO, USA 63130
>(314) 935-4018
>cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu OR cwc@oui.com
>WWW: http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~cwconrad/
>
>
>
>

The baptism is a sacrament bicondocional with the nouns water,
spirit are united through the conjunction "and" (KAI).
The baptism is a formula that indicates the death in water; the sinner
(Christ's death) and (KAI) without through resurrection for Holy Spirit's guide.

I hope that what I have wrote would help you in your work.

Braulio
parakal@quetzal.net