Re: ALLOS and Jn. 1:1c/Was Anarthrous Subject

Apokrisis1@aol.com
Mon, 8 Sep 1997 19:07:39 -0400 (EDT)

Hello, Cindy:

<<
John quotes Jesus as saying EGW KAI O PATHR hEN ESMEN in Jn. 10:33. At
least
one good option for the meaning of this clause is that Jesus and the Father
form a complex unit of which both are parts or members. I assume that the
use of PROS in 1:1b and 1:2 would not exclude the idea of Jesus as a member
relating to such a complex unit. This would be consistent with two of the
views suggested for Jn. 1:1c. That is, hO LOGOS could be taken as a
"member"
of QEOS (a complex unit) whether the emphasis is on the quality of QEOS, or
QEOS is taken as definite. >>

Can you tell us what "complex unit" you are referring to, specifically? Also,
where in the Bible is such a "complex unit" is discussed? I see no complex
unit in John 10:33, anymore than I do in John 17:22, HINA WSIN HEN KATHWS
HMEIS HEN.

Greg Stafford
University of Wisconsin