Dr. Paul S. Dixon, Pastor
Wilsonville, Oregon
http://users.aol.com/dixonps
http://users.why.net/think/greek
On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 07:26:36 -0800 Paul Zellmer
<zellmer@isabela.faith.edu.ph> writes:
>Paul Dixon wrote:
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>> I believe the archives will bear this out: 1) I was not the one who
>> brought up the issue of contradictions, rather, 2) two other
>list-members
>> brought it up. This is how it happened. One list-member, at least
>> several times, commented that 1 John has contradictions throughout.
>> Another list-member seemed to agree and suggested 1 Jn 2:7-8 as a
>good
>> example. That was when I responded and attempted to show
>> non-contradiction because of the two different ways KAINHN was being
>> used.
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>All right, I confess, I will not deny, but confess that I was the
>offending party that caused the notorious thread to come up again. I
>apologized to Jonathan within a couple days when I noted that it was
>putting him in front of the firing line. It took a couple days
>because
>that is the delay I normally have in receiving and reading the
>digests.
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>I believe that the original thread had been allowed to die down, and
>the statement which kicked it all off again was:
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>> BTW, Jonathan, it appears to me that verses 7 & 8 of chapter 2
>support
>> your notes in the past concerning conflicting statements in the
>book.
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>> We have to continually fight the tendency to soften these statements
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>so
>> that the points that he is making can continue to have their "shock
>> effect." Of course, we note as you have that these statements do
>not
>> make John undecided in the points that he is making.
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>[The "we" was referring to the translation project that I am a part
>of.]
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>But, Paul, I also believe that you and the others that went after
>Jonathan's position were more concerned with semantics than you were
>in
>understanding what other people were actually saying. I used
>"conflicting statements," Jonathan [at least at times] used
>"contradictions," others [of which I think you were one] wanted to use
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>"paradox." But all of us involved in the the discussion agreed with
>the last statement quoted above: that John was not undecided on the
>issues.
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>I note that Carl does not claim that this thread was without merit,
>just that it got out of hand. Perhaps a better way to handle issues
>where we feel the need to "present the other side" is to ask the
>original poster for further insight in his position on that particular
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>area that we are questioning. I realize that sometimes genuine
>differences do occur, but frequently we are all saying the same thing
>using different words.
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>Peace,
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>Paul
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>Paul and Dee Zellmer, Jimmy Guingab, Geoffrey Beltran
>Ibanag Translation Project
>Cabagan, Philippines
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