Re: telelestai

John M. Moe (John.M.Moe-1@tc.umn.edu)
Tue, 19 May 1998 16:49:55 -0600

Carl W. Conrad wrote:

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But one might question whether John's soteriology is fully in
harmony with a notion
of paying off a debt as a ransom; the image of Jesus as a Passover
lamb
belongs to John's gospel, and to be sure, the death of Jesus on the
cross
is salvific, but the question whether JOHN's gospel conceives of that
death
as paying a ransom is hard to find evidence WITHIN JOHN'S GOSPEL to
support, in my opinion. We've got to be careful in responding to this
one,
as it will be difficult to stay away from hermeneutic assumptions
when what
we're really after is the precise sense and intent of TETELESTAI in
John
19.30.

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Dr. Conrad,

Perhaps I should ask this off list because I think this probably goes
beyond the parameters of B-Greek, but I was just wondering; In the
light of what you say above, how do you take hUPER in the ironic
"prophecy" of the high priest at John 11:50-51?

Thanks,

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Rev. John M. Moe St. John's Lutheran Church, Rich Valley http://www.state.net/sjrv/