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b-greek-digest Friday, 22 December 1995 Volume 01 : Number 054
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Test
Re: squirrels in the attic update
Re: squirrels in the attic update
Re: squirrels in the attic update
greetings
Re: greetings
ANASTAS, EUQUS IN MARK
Re: squirrels in the attic update
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From: JClar100@aol.com
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 03:23:24 -0500
Subject: Test
Test
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From: "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 06:46:21 -0600
Subject: Re: squirrels in the attic update
At 1:15 PM 12/20/95, Jim Beale wrote:
>On Dec 20, 1995 Mark O'Brien wrote:
>
>> Only one question remains... what *is* the Greek word for "squirrel"?
>
>My research has uncovered two words, one of which is quite like the
>english word, the other is more relevant to the current situation.
>
>The more relevant word is PHEROIKOS, which is a white animal
>like a squirrel. There is a little-known passage in Hesiod which
>seems of great relevance to the current discussion. Hesiod informs his
>readers that when the pesky PHEREOIKOS (which is obviously a copyist
>error and should read PHEROIKOS, as the house that they carry is not
>their own but that of Dr. Dixon, they would have to be very large
>squirrels indeed. But this is absurd, hence the necessary conclusion of
>a copyist error:) begins to climb, the great time of harvest has begun:
>
> But when the PHEREOIKOS climbs up the plants from the
> earth to escape the Pleiades, then it is no longer the
> season for digging vineyards, but to whet your sickles
> and rouse up your slaves. Avoid shady seats and sleeping
> until dawn in the harvest season . . .
> (Hesiod, Works and Days, 571)
>
>I doubt if the particular relevance of this quote escapes the great
>scholars on this list. Dr. Dixon, who has just recently made available
>his work on evangelism, has PHEROIKOS in his attic. Since Jesus, in
>the gospel of John, says,
>
> Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh
> harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and
> look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest.
> (John 4:35)
>
>He equates evangelism with the harvest. And as Hesiod has instructed
>us to "avoid shady seats and sleeping until dawn in the harvest season"
>which begins when the PHEROIKOS climbs up the plants (there is a
>practical issue here as well) the time of the harvest has begun. The
>lesson to both Dr. Dixon and all of us should be quite apparent. We
>should take the gospel now to every creature. Awake thou sleepy-head,
>and rise from the dead [as it were], and Christ will give you light.
>
>Oh, BTW, the other word, not particularly relevant, is
>
>SKIOUROS, shadow-tail, i.e. squirrel
I'm not quite sure what the point of this is, unless, of course, it's
tongue in cheek. Hesiod's PHEREOIKOS (the form is right for the dactylic
hexameter to scan correctly). This is not a squirrel but probably a
tortoise, or (less likely, I think) a snail. It's an adjective/epithet used
substantivally for the creature that lives inside of the shell that it
takes with it wherever it goes.
And there's no coincidence in the fact that the "not particularly relevant"
SKIOUROS is close in form to our word, "squirrel."
Are you seriously trying to read apocalyptic implications in the presence
of squirrels in Dr. Dixon's attic? It's not that uncommon a phenomenon. But
I may have misread the tone of your post.
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University
One Brookings Drive, St. Louis, MO, USA 63130
(314) 935-4018
cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu OR cwc@oui.com
WWW: http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~cwconrad/
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From: Jim Beale <jbeale@gdeb.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 95 14:53:24 EST
Subject: Re: squirrels in the attic update
On Thu, 21 Dec 1995 06:46:21 Carl W. Conrad wrote:
> Are you seriously trying to read apocalyptic implications in the presence
> of squirrels in Dr. Dixon's attic? It's not that uncommon a phenomenon. But
> I may have misread the tone of your post.
PAIZW! THN DE GLWSSAN OUDEIS DAMASAI DUNATAI ANQRWPWN,
ONTWS THN GLWSSAN EREIDEI SIAGONA.
ALLA KAQWS GEGRAPTAI,
H POU AN, EFH, EI GE KLAIEIN EPEIRWMEQA SE POIEIN, SFODR'
AN HMIN EMEMFOU, HWSPER ENIOI KAI EN WIDAIS KAI EN LOGOIS
OIKTRA ATTA LOGOPOIOUNTES EIS DAKRUA PEIRWNTAI AGEIN, HOPOTE
GE NUN KAI AUTOS EIDWS HOTI EUFRAINEIN MEN TI SE BOULOMEQA,
BLAPSAI D' OUDEN, HOMWS HOUTWS EN POLLHI ATIMIAI HMAS EXEIS.
(Xenophon, Cyropaedia, 2.2.13)
XARISASQE MOI H GLWSSALGIA
- --
In Christ,
Jim Beale
________________________________________________
Thou awakest us to delight in Thy praise;
for Thou madest us for Thyself, and our
heart is restless, until it repose in Thee.
(Augustine, Confessions, I,1)
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From: "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 15:08:40 -0600
Subject: Re: squirrels in the attic update
At 1:53 PM 12/21/95, Jim Beale wrote:
>On Thu, 21 Dec 1995 06:46:21 Carl W. Conrad wrote:
>
>> Are you seriously trying to read apocalyptic implications in the presence
>> of squirrels in Dr. Dixon's attic? It's not that uncommon a phenomenon. But
>> I may have misread the tone of your post.
>
>PAIZW! THN DE GLWSSAN OUDEIS DAMASAI DUNATAI ANQRWPWN,
>ONTWS THN GLWSSAN EREIDEI SIAGONA.
>
>ALLA KAQWS GEGRAPTAI,
>
>H POU AN, EFH, EI GE KLAIEIN EPEIRWMEQA SE POIEIN, SFODR'
>AN HMIN EMEMFOU, HWSPER ENIOI KAI EN WIDAIS KAI EN LOGOIS
>OIKTRA ATTA LOGOPOIOUNTES EIS DAKRUA PEIRWNTAI AGEIN, HOPOTE
>GE NUN KAI AUTOS EIDWS HOTI EUFRAINEIN MEN TI SE BOULOMEQA,
>BLAPSAI D' OUDEN, HOMWS HOUTWS EN POLLHI ATIMIAI HMAS EXEIS.
>(Xenophon, Cyropaedia, 2.2.13)
>
>XARISASQE MOI H GLWSSALGIA
ALL' hOUTWS ESTIN hWS EMOIGE TO PRWTON EDOXEN; THN GLWTTAN hWS ALHQWS
EREIDEIS KATA THN SIAGONA, KAIPER ANEU SHMEIOU TINOS, hOION TO ;-). KAI DH
KAI TON XENOFWNTA SUSTRATIWTHN PARELABOU, OUDE MONON TON XENOFWNTA ALLA KAI
THN KUROPAIDEIAN, PANTWN TWN TOU XENOFWNTOS BIBLIWN MAKRWi TO MAKROTATON,
hO KAI AUTOS PALAI POTE ANAGNOUS OUK OUPOTE PALIN ANAGNWSOMAI. XAIRE OUN
KAI SU, W ANDREIOTATE, XAIRETW DE KAI hO FEREOIKOS SOU!
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University
One Brookings Drive, St. Louis, MO, USA 63130
(314) 935-4018
cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu OR cwc@oui.com
WWW: http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~cwconrad/
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From: Carlton Winbery <winberyc@popalex1.linknet.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:21:45 +0400
Subject: greetings
KALA XRISTOUGENNA
Calton L. Winbery
Prof. Religion
LA College, Pineville, La
winberyc@popalex1.linknet.net
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From: BibAnsMan@aol.com
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 19:14:10 -0500
Subject: Re: greetings
In a message dated 95-12-21 18:56:40 EST, winberyc@popalex1.linknet.net
(Carlton Winbery) writes:
>KALA XRISTOUGENNA
KALHMERA!
Jim
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From: Mark Penner <mark.penner@jemanet.or.jp>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 02:35:00 GMT
Subject: ANASTAS, EUQUS IN MARK
CC> Doesn't every commentary comment on this? I think it IS important to
CC> Mark--
Doesn't make much sense, does it? There are so many opinions on the
topic that I ask for more? Be that as it may, I've found this
list a great way to at least make sure there's not something more
current out there that I'm ignorant of. And I *really* appreciate the
help.
Mark
_______________________________________________________________________
Mark & Mary Esther Penner CBInternational
Tokyo, Japan
* RM 1.3 02234 * The weather is here. Wish you were beautiful...
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From: Joseph Fremer <jfremer@grfn.org>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 00:46:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: squirrels in the attic update
> >
> >XARISASQE MOI H GLWSSALGIA
>
> ALL' hOUTWS ESTIN hWS EMOIGE TO PRWTON EDOXEN; THN GLWTTAN hWS ALHQWS
Aha! So there IS an Attic ^^^^^^^
in my computer!
I shall have to alert the squirrels.
"Semper ubi sub ubi."
Joe Fremer, Pastor
Good Shepherd Lutheran Church
Lowell, MI
jfremer@grfn.org
+ I stink, therefore I am. +
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