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b-greek-digest             Sunday, 7 January 1996       Volume 01 : Number 069

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        Re:Translating 
        note to hollie 
        Re:Translating
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From: Will Wagers <wagers@computek.net>
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 12:32:24 -0600
Subject: Re:Translating 

Cal Redmond  writes:

>     By my reasoning, then, Greek is not far removed - if removed at all-
>from the historical Jeus.

Jesus, a Hellenized Jew!

Hellenization incarnate? Sort of a personification of a historical process?
A node in the rebounding culture shock wave of Alexander? Many Greek
myths serve similar purposes. A "historical" Jesus, indeed!

What *are* they teaching in seminaries these days?

Will



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From: "Dr. Kenneth Johnson" <kjohnson@tfs.net>
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 14:32:18 -0600
Subject: note to hollie 

this is a test.  if you don't recieve this let me know.  If you are reading
this now then you have recieved it.

if this works i'll send you another letter with a picture attached.
check out my web page.
http://www.tfs.net/personal/kjohnson
you can always use it to send me e-mail.
well, I'll go now

PS Nappy hew Year!!?!


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From: Calr <credmond@usa.pipeline.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 17:30:02 -0500
Subject: Re:Translating

On Jan 06, 1996 12:32:24, 'Will Wagers <wagers@computek.net>' wrote: 
 
 
>Cal Redmond  writes: 
> 
>>     By my reasoning, then, Greek is not far removed - if removed at all-

>>from the historical Jeus. 
> 
>Jesus, a Hellenized Jew! 
> 
>Hellenization incarnate? Sort of a personification of a historical
process? 
>A node in the rebounding culture shock wave of Alexander? Many Greek 
>myths serve similar purposes. A "historical" Jesus, indeed! 
> 
>What *are* they teaching in seminaries these days? 
> 
>Will 
> 
> 
- -- 
The point here is that many of us are asking whether there was such a thing
as a non-hellenized Jew except in George Foot Moore's imagination.  While
the degrees of hellenization may (and almost certainly did) vary, the
dichotomy between Hellenistic and Palestinian Judaism is increasingly
rejected by scholars.  If speaking Greek makes Jesus a "hellenized Jew"
(Will's phrase, not mine"), then so be it, but what I am saying is
different, I think, than what Will means by "a hellinzed Jew."   
 
What "they are teaching in seminaries these days" is the need to try to
examine the available evidence without prejudice to try to let the evidence
lead us to conclusions rather than let our conclusions reinterpret the
evidence.   
 
Did Jesus speak Greek? An unanswerable question, of course, but it is
certainly within the realm of possibility.  What I didn't see in Will's
response was a challenge to the findings I presented.     
 
 
Cal Redmond 
The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary 
credmond@usa.pipeline.com

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Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 19:13:36 -0500
Subject: unsubscribe 

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