From: Nichael Lynn Cramer (nichael@sover.net)
Date: Thu Dec 07 1995 - 11:47:18 EST
[Needless to say, this is incredibly off-topic, but there's been so much
discussion on this topic that I thought some folks might be interested.
In any case, below is a message sent out to another list to which I belong
which contains a lot of information about the source and nature of the
"Magazine Spam". --N]
>Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 02:44:49 -0500
>From: Alan Bawden <Cube-Lovers-Request@ai.mit.edu>
>Sender: Cube-Lovers-Request@ai.mit.edu
>Subject: Magazine Spam
>To: Cube-Lovers@ai.mit.edu
>Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Dec 95 2:54:24 EST
>Resent-From: ncramer@BBN.COM
>Resent-To: nichael@sover.net
>Status:
>
>So I thought it was time to send you all an update on unwanted magazine
>advertisements that have been broadcast over Cube-Lovers about once a week
>for the last few months. Here's the final story.
>
>First off, there is absolutely -nothing- that I can do IN THE SHORT TERM to
>stop these advertisements. Internet electronic mail was not designed to
>prevent unwanted advertising. As things are set up now, Cube-Lovers is a
>simple mailing list, so anybody, anywhere, can send mail to Cube-Lovers and
>you all get it.
>
>It turns out that the source of the advertising we've been getting is a
>fellow named Kevin Jay Lipsitz <krazykev@kjl.com>. I've written directly
>to Mr. Lipsitz politely asking him to remove Cube-Lovers from his list of
>advertising targets (it was hard to be polite, but I was) -- but Mr.
>Lipsitz apparently doesn't answer his electronic mail. Actually, I doubt
>he even -reads- his electronic mail, because he is a well-known Spammer,
>and probably gets hundreds of complaints a day delivered to his address.
>(For those of you new to the Internet, "Spamming" is the technical term for
>the kind of advertising Mr. Lipsitz engages in.)
>
>I really doubt that Mr. Lipsitz's technique has sold any magazines to any
>of -you-, but I suppose he gets enough suckers to make it pay, and he's got
>no motivation to bother removing Cube-Lovers, since MIT is paying for the
>resources that he's using to reach you all. So we're stuck with him. At
>least we're stuck with him until I can get the filtering technology in
>place to cut him off. Which I wanted to avoid, because I have better
>things to do with my time, but now I have no choice. So relief from Mr.
>Lipsitz's magazines is on its way eventually, but probably not until
>you've seen several more copies of his advertisement -- sorry.
>
>By the way, here's more information on Mr. Lipsitz. You'll notice that he
>has his own domain name: KJL.COM. They don't give you a domain name unless
>you provide a mailing address and a phone number, so the following
>information is publicly available from the NIC:
>
> Kevin Jay Lipsitz (KJL-DOM)
> PO Box 120990
> Staten Island NY 10312-0990
>
> Domain Name: KJL.COM
>
> Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
> Lipsitz, Kevin Jay (KJL2) krazykev@KJL.COM
> 718-967-1234
>
> Record last updated on 25-Aug-95.
> Record created on 20-Apr-95.
>
> Domain servers in listed order:
>
> NS1.ABS.NET 206.42.80.130
> NS2.ABS.NET 206.42.80.131
> NS1.NET99.NET 204.157.3.2
>
>If you want proof that this is the guy, you need only note that the address
>given here is the -same- as the address for ordering magazines given in all
>those advertisements. The phone number is in the same area code and
>exchange as the Fax number he sometimes gives. (Although the fact that the
>phone number ends in "1234" makes me suspect it is bogus -- I don't think
>think the NIC tries to -verify- any of this information.) Notice that
>ABS.NET provides the domain service for KJL.COM. You will find that
>ABS.NET is no more interested in answering your mail than Mr. Lipsitz is.
>
>Finally, I urge you all -not- to respond to this message in public. If you
>have further thoughts on Internet advertising, electronic mailing list
>administration, or clever acts of revenge, you can send them to -me-, but
>don't CC your message to Cube-Lovers as a whole. The whole point here is
>to keep Cube-Lovers relatively free of off-topic mail. As the list
>administrator I get to send out occasional administrivia such as this
>message because I do actual -work- to keep the list running.
>
> - Alan (Cube-Lovers-Request@AI.MIT.EDU)
Nichael "... and they opened their thesaurus
nichael@sover.net and brought forth gold,
http://www.sover.net/~nichael and frankincense and myrrh."
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